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Loney Fail, Rockies Prevail

We shall wonder why the Dodgers two best relief pitchers were still in the bullpen when Tulo won the game in the bottom of the 11th. You have to use one or the other before going to the 2nd string.

We shall wonder why Tracy choose to pitch to one of the best hitters in baseball when one of the worse hitters in baseball was on deck with 1st base open.

We shall wonder why Rich Dauer would choose to send one of the slowest runners in baseball home in a key moment in the bottom of the 8th.

We shall wonder why Jim Tracy removed a fresh Morales for a tired Bentancourt.

We shall wonder whatever happened to the promise and hope of James Loney who just two years ago looked for all the world like a future star.

We shall wonder whatever happened to the promise and hope of Russell Martin who just 1 1/2 years ago was the premiere catcher in the NL.

We shall wonder if this is the beginning of a Manny hot streak after taking an 0-2 fastball into right field to tie the game.

We shall wonder how a team can go from 15 1/2 games out on June 3rd to 2  games out on Aug 25th with a team that SB Nation has no clue who is on it.

We shall live to fight another day, we barely lost, we came back, we still have the lead. Get a grip, you whiny fucks.

I shall look forward to the next segment of exciting August baseball.

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Loney did get the double that was scored a 2 base error.

If that drops cleanly, that would have gotten Manny home and the lead.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

That was an easy error call.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either way it was just a pop fly. He’s batting fifth, he has to do more then a big zero with the bat and compound that with a throwing error.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't understand why we'd bat him 5th

in the middle of this prolonged slump. Singles-or-Out Loney needs to move down in the order in favor of someone that can actually drive in runs. Actually, anyone that can pretend like he’s trying to hit the ball out of the infield can bat there… it’s just painful watching him come to the plate with guys on base these days.

by whorge on Aug 26, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Torre was trying to catch lightning in a bottle…road James, Coors James, well-rested James.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

I removed it. I forgot they don’t want us dropping the f bomb on our posts. But I still feel the same way.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The people (SBNATION) who employ us

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

the people who run SBNation.

Although do Eric and Phil even get paid?

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enough to buy copies of Bluetopia (which I still have for you…sorry for not mailing it yet).

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since Eric liked it

I put it back.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. Some of the guys in the thread were starting to sound like Giants fans with all their whining and “this is the end of the season” rants.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Aug 25, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many times to I have to delete this photo before you stop posting it?

Who the hell is this guy, and what the hell does he have to do with anything? Some context would be nice

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As for my context, a few pics now and then is fine, but posting a ton of pics for seemingly no reason, especially large ones, make the pages very cumbersome to load.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still

you have to tell us the back story. Don’t leave us ignorant fools hanging.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i saw it on a google search
it looked like a creepy/demented guy
whose making the dodgers lose…i know lame joke

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark FISHER
Birth: 17 JUL 1922; Sydney, Australia Ref: 3
Death: 22 MAR 2007; Ambler, Pennsylvania Ref: 4

i found it when i was searching for derek fisher

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

*laughed

That is supposed to say laughed, people.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

that photo is to big for this spot.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont know

some random pic
i saw on a google search
but i guess it has nothing to do with this thread
so by all means they should delete it

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you have really disappointed me. I felt there was some interesting back story. Now I have to delete the photo and all references to it. I’m going to feel like Dick Cheney.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re going to waterboard Torre on your next clubhouse visit? Go hunting with Eric and shoot him in the face with your shotgun?

by David Young on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only way you could be more dead to me is if Shaq actually did attempt (and miss) a 3-pointer that happened to cost the Lakers a championship somehow back in the day. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No offense, by the way. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we have our new rallying cry

HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Project Mayhem

in death, you have a name…

by whorge on Aug 26, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers are 9-7 when Blake homers this year.

They were 9-1 last year!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But 0-1 in the playoffs :(

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

its amazing to me that you can pull stats like that from the internet

I wish i was better with baseball reference and the baseball cube

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 26, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers have a great record

when Loney or Martin don’t homer. Do we want to continue that trend?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Anybody Know if Ethier Can Play 1B?

Can we then put Pierre in RF and get Furcal to the bottom of the lineup?

Can we also bring Elbert up and send McDonald down?

by bearface on Aug 25, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, Ethier can play 1B

But there is NO WAY Pierre can play RF.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pierre kinda sucks at CF

Kemp is one of the best in the game.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could do that but you be doing three things.
1. Weakening Center Field because Pierre is a lousy CF
2. Weakening 1st base because Andre is going to be a lousy 1st baseman unless he’s Jim Edmonds who was twice the athlete that Andre is.
3. Gaining what? Pierre’s bat over Loney’s bat? We make fun of Loney’s bat because he’s a 1st baseman but in comparison to Juan Pierre there is no advantage.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just bat Loney lower in the order

despite his gaffe last night, he’s still a solid defensive 1b

by whorge on Aug 26, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't screw up my defense

with Pierre in CF AND an untried Ethier at 1B for the .050 gain in OPS that Pierre currently gives over Loney. And I’m convinced that if JP was playing everyday, his batting would worsen.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its problematic, in that a ton of Kemp’s value is tied to him playing CF. There are a lot of moving parts, but you basically have:

Option 1
Kemp in CF – awesome defensively
Ethier in RF – below average defensively
Loney at 1B – probably around average, maybe slightly below or above (depending on metric)

Option 2
Pierre in CF – great speed, but bad routes to balls, and his arm would be more exposed than ever…below average in CF
Kemp in RF – above average defensively
Ethier at 1B – complete wild card…no idea how it would turn out (personally I think he would be a big drop off from Loney on D)

So you basically are banking on Pierre being a better hitter than Loney, which isn’t a given by any means.

I’d rather stick with the status quo rather than shake things up for something that wouldn’t be more than an incremental upgrade, if an upgrade at all.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i ethier really considered below average in centerfield?

I know we always make UZR jokes, but i thought he was around the league average

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 26, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

No he can't

No we can’t

He’s never ever played 1st base so they are not going to stick him there in August.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. I would hate to see Pierre’s arm in right field.
2. They tried Ethier at 1B briefly in ST. Briefly. I would have no confidence in trying that in the stretch drive.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, why would you want to send down a pitcher with a 2.50 ERA in 36 innings as a reliever (including tonight)?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say we just convert Loney back to pitcher, stick him in the pen, and convert McDonald back to a hitter, and stick him at first.

Viola! problem solved.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We'd

still have a lousy pitcher and a lousy hitting 1st baseman.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

In case it wasn’t obvious (and I think you guys knew this), I wasn’t serious about the switch :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But was it a Frank Viola problem, or a problem with a stringed instrument.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

because

he gave up a bunt single to a man who can’t swing the bat, watched his 1st baseman throw it wide to his 2nd baseman who didn’t make much of an effort to catch the ball putting a guy on 3rd base with no outs. Then he gave up a single to the hottest hitter in baseball to end the game. Forget about sending him to the minor leagues, let’s just DFA his sorry ass.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh?

let me repeat it…

mcdonald is a great reliever…. and a horrible starter…

starter as in going 5 + innings and reliever in which going 1 inning throwing your hardest…

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

Matthewmafa is old enough to have a finely tuned sarcasm detector.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

??

what are you talking about

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil was pretty over the top in his comment, responding to another, and clearly had his tongue firmly planted in cheek.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can Abreu play 3B? Move Blake to 1B?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 25, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again the same argument comes up

Abreu is not a better hitter then Loney.

Loney sucks as a 1st baseman not in comparison to a MI. Okay right now he would suck in comparison to anyone, but for the most part he’s still at least a .750 OPS person.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrible

You can blame this Giveaway on Torre! Mcdonald is just not showing the composure, and O-dog? Will the real Hudson ever show up again??

by dubgz23 on Aug 25, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

mcdonald??

how do you expect him to get out of the jam loney and hudson caused him by putting a runner on 3rd with no outs?

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did McDonald

actually do wrong in the 10th? Serious question, he was given a man on 3rd with no outs because of inept defensive help.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

well he did give up a walk

to start off the inning… something you should never ever do

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only real thing McDonald did that angered me was the walk to Stewart. You basically had Pete Gray in the on deck circle, and the walk allowed him to do the one thing he could do to help the team: bunt.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should have worked him into the game recap. Oh well, live and learn. The life if a rookie blogger!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

but the one thing Ian Stewart can do is hit home runs. I could understand him pitching carefully to him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that point could be overstated, so even if there was a Rule 8, you would be in the clear :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Sherrill is hurting

Hopefully Dylan will enlighten us tomorrow on why the man for the job was not used for the job.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Ken Levine on Dodger Talk (he’s on the trip), there was no bullpen news in the pregame (i.e., pitchers not available, etc).

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid “not the real” Hudson! He’s only hitting .306/.367/.403 over his last 22 games. When will he ever revert back to form! Release him!!!!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Stephen makes a recap thread: 4 posts.

Phil Gurnee makes a recap thread: 75 posts and counting.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Its all about timing. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t happen often, I’ll enjoy the attention.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Senator Ted Kennedy died of Brain cancer.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

big dodgers fan just joined today quick question erick do you think joe torre will ever put andre at firts base kemp in right and have pierre in center

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Phil says not this year, Joe Torre loves Matt Kemp in CF

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a move they would have to experiment with in the offseason and spring training, so no, they wouldn’t do it this season.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and welcome to TBLA! We’re glad to have you.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Make yourself at home. Hit somebody.".

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Aug 25, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I do love that picture.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson threw 70 pitches the last two days.

If he arm isn’t sore in the morning, he’s lying like hell.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

damn he pitched a lot yesterday

over 2 innings.. he deserves a day of rest at least bochy

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like him to rest to be ready for the Rockies this weekend :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Rockies sweep us

we may just be rooting for the Rockies against the Giants this weekend:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

woah woah woah

what is this sweep you are talking of..?

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s true. We need all the cushion we can get at this point. You are right. But I am a vengeful man, cutting off my own nose to spite my face.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Wolf loses to Fogg

the Dodgers deserve to be swept. After two consecutive extra inning games, the Rockies have no business winning a bullpen start with a very hittable starter

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

The biggest thing to be embarrassed about

is that we lost to Matt Herges.

Matt Herges

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

We need to return the favor by getting Mota a win. We all know Wolf is winning tomorrow, so Mota will have to pitch in the Padilla game to earn his victory.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

torres goal in the bottom of the 10th should have been get to the top of the 11th no mmatter what.. even if that meant use sherill or broxton.. cause those 3 were coming up

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Herges is not bad at all

He pitched great for Cleveland, was a key bullpen cog for Colorado in 2007 and had a “bad” 2008. Still that 2008 season had an almost identical FIP as 2007. Really, he hasn’t been bad for four years.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

His expected ERA over the last three years

is over 4.50. In my book, for a relief pitcher that is bad work. His 1.01 WHIP in 2007 is an outlier.

 IP W L S ERA WHIP H% S% CTL DOM CMD XERA BPV
2003 79.0 3 2 3 2.62 1.23 30 79 3.3 7.7 2.3 3.80 85
2004 65.1 4 5 23 5.25 1.71 36 71 2.9 5.4 1.9 4.87 38
2005 29.0 1 1 0 7.14 1.62 28 59 3.7 2.8 0.8 5.84 -23
2006 71.0 2 3 0 4.31 1.72 35 75 3.5 4.6 1.3 4.73 35
2007 48.7 5 1 0 2.96 1.01 22 73 2.8 5.5 2.0 4.43 61
2008 64.3 3 4 0 5.04 1.60 35 68 3.4 6.4 1.9 4.99 43

by meercatjohn on Aug 26, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Rockies wont sweep us Wolf will give us a solid start 7 or 8 innings to help us get the win and Vicente Padilla is going to pitch a lot better than most people think GO BLUE

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it's safe to say

the last few games in general have sucked.

"There once was a rapping tomato/that's right, I said "rapping tomato"
He rapped all day/from April to May, and guess what, it was me."

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Aug 25, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that's true, that is completely ridiculous

Not that it’s related, but you may remember Yorvit as the guy had to fly to Venezuela a couple months ago because his nephew was kidnapped.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

wtf is up w/ the compulsive late innings bunt attempts? I mean COME ON!!

by Seanny Rotten on Aug 26, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

wolf..

last 4 years he has made one start in coors field and it didnt go too well… 4 innings 6 hits 4 walks and 7 ER with 2 hOMERs….

but this is not the same randy wolf!!!

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh oh

Gurnick said there was a 20 minute media lockout while Ned met with Torre after the game.

That MUST have been about Lindblom…

:)

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the clubhouse was closed for Torre addressing the team. Ned was in there, but I doubt his conversation with Torre was much more than who will come off the 25-man for Padilla on Thursday.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly, but it is only for a week or so anyway, so not a big deal.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

abreu is going to be the one who is sent down i think mcdonald will stay

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, but again, it is only for five days total. Whomever is sent down will be back on September 1 anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

3 of the 4 relievers who came in allowed a run

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

buster olney is a fool he is a big dodgers hater just like espn

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t surprise me if for him to start thinking that Torre has switched again to a new closer in James McDonald.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Aug 26, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes the offense cant score for shit

but kuo allowed and run and belissario did too with mcdonald getting the un earned run…

tonight might have been one of the nights where the bullpen fuked up

by matthewmafa on Aug 26, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loretta

Our primary pinch hitter has a .568 OPS. If this is the guy we need to rely on late in games, we’re finished. Fuck loyalty. I thought the goal was to win championships.

/rant

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn't be a better idea if the 8 guys who always play

Make the game out of reach before he’s needed. Also JP is becoming quite the pinch hitter.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 25, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

whos 8 for there last 11

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pierre's pinch-hitting

And he showed why he’s successful in Coors Field, even with Pierre, they cannot play too shallow so he gets those little dunk hits.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 25, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

JP was the first PH.

Loretta was used in a non pressure situation.

AGAINST MATT HERGES.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Torre will always use JP to leadoff an inning if he has the chance.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

hUH ...

seems like ’09’s Loretta is ’08’s Sweeney.

by Seanny Rotten on Aug 26, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow's lineup

Furcal
Pierre
Ethier
Ramirez
Blake
Hudson
Loney
Martin

by bhsportsguy on Aug 25, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

wait

why is there a good chance of Kemp not playing? He is one of the few Dodgers actually able to hit well lately. Why don’t we just sit Ethier while we’re at it, then put Lorretta at 3b. I would say put Castro at SS and Ausmus at catcher, but sadly enough those are upgrades right now.

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is no way kemp doesnt play tomorrow

by Dodgermanramon on Aug 25, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speculation or fact?

Why the hell would Kemp be sitting, didn’t he just sit a few games ago?

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Pierre will probably play

But we don’t know who’s sitting. It could be any of the three starters.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that case

Sit Manny. Kemp has earned his keep, Manny hasn’t earned much since his return from his 50 game vacation.

Either way, I’d start Kemp, Ethier, and Manny in the outfield.

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every one of our outfielders produced today.

The outfield isn’t the problem, its our damn infield except for Casey Blake.

by Tripon on Aug 25, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I realize that

which is why I don’t think Pierre should start, but if any were to sit, I would sit Manny right now.

But like I said, start Manny, Kemp, and Ethier.

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Furcal's hit was great for sure

But had he gotten on once or twice before that in the game we might not have needed the double in the 9th. The first inning, for instance, had Furcal doubled then there would have been at least 2 runs in the first, and Blake could have had a chance to drive in a run rather than getting his hit in the 2nd and nothing coming from it.

I loved the double in the 9th, but had he gotten on base earlier, it just would not have been necessary.

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

a fresh Morales for a tired Bentancourt.

You can question that logic, but not for those reasons.

Betancourt threw just 10 pitches Monday to Morales’ five. Neither threw Sunday. Morales threw 10 on Saturday and Betancourt one.

Betancourt should not have been gassed. Also, Morales has warmed up in 7 of the last 8 games as well, something that can wear down a pitcher without being documented.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 25, 2009 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

No offense? I would assume that's what you're rooting for

I really wonder if they’ll make a roster move before the game. Herges only threw 7 pitches Tuesday and 10 Saturday, so he could be a decent longman. I think the Rockies are hoping for 6 from Fogg and Herges, then the rest of the bullpen can fill out. Doesn’t sound promising to me.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 25, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ivan DeJesus returns

He DHed for the Rookie Arizona League team and went 0-3.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 26, 2009 12:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I must say i get about as hot headed as any during games

but its great to come back here and have a few chuckles after the dust has settled, especially this random ongoing joke of a picture Shaq-4-3 keeps posting that really is way out of left field….that and i just had to go out for a few drinks after a loss like that lol

anyway, first day of class tomorrow at 10 am, i guess its fitting that Dodgers lose on the eve of dreadful schoolwork again, may the baseball gods be with us

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 26, 2009 12:49 AM PDT reply actions  

amen to that one

i had my first day of classes today too…except at 8am eastern time. :(

by bucknellbruin on Aug 26, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Get a grip"...exactly!

I am tired of all the bagging on- through various points of the season and to varying degrees- Martin, Loney, Broxton, Billingsley, and yes, even Ethier (remember May, anyone?). I was at a Mets game yesterday, and as a local commentator observed, Gary Sheffield ran after fly balls like he was playing at a charity softball event. Now THAT is a player who deserves to be bagged on- a former superstar in his 40’s, acting like he doesn’t want to be there.

From what I can tell- and I’ve been to a lot of Dodger games this year- these guys are trying their best, and though they shouldn’t be immune to criticism, it’d be nice to see more of a, “We know he’s done better in the past. What’s going on with him right now?” mentality from fans, instead of a, “They’re terrible- trade them all for Roy Halladay!” attitude that we always see. And speaking of terrible, anyone seen how Mr. Sure-Thing-Win-Now has done lately? Imagine what you’d be saying if that trade HAD been made! (And don’t fool yourselves…that’s the guy everyone wanted. Until it actually came to pass, the thought of obtaining Cliff Lee was merely a consolation prize!)

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