Dodgers Need To Get Offensive
On July 22, the Manny Bobbleslam win gave the Dodgers their fifth straight win, and provided them with a nine-game cushion in the NL West. Since then, the Dodgers have a 13-18 record, despite outscoring their opponents, 129-119. Even if we remove the 17-4 drubbing of the Brewers (which I don't believe we should), the club, given their run differential, should have split 30 games instead of winning 12.
The pitching has been outstanding, posting a 3.45 ERA over the last 31 games. The Dodgers have given up more than four runs only eight times during that span, and they are 0-8 in those games. Still, pitching hasn't really been the problem over the last month or so.
The Dodgers have been absolutely wasting this good pitching. The offense simply hasn't been pulling its weight. From July 24 to present:
| Player | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Ethier | 122 | 20 | 45 | 14 | 2 | 5 | 25 | 16 | 1/0 | .369/.458/.639 | 1.097 |
| Blake | 107 | 18 | 32 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 13 | 12 | 1/1 | .299/.366/.514 | .880 |
| Kemp | 121 | 18 | 35 | 9 | 0 | 5 | 23 | 5 | 7/2 | .289/.313/.488 | .800 |
| Hudson | 102 | 10 | 30 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 9 | 1/1 | .294/.363/.373 | .735 |
| Manny | 114 | 11 | 29 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 14 | 0/0 | .254/.346/.377 | .723 |
| Martin | 98 | 12 | 24 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 1/0 | .245/.308/.357 | .666 |
| Furcal | 133 | 18 | 34 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 10 | 1/1 | .256/.306/.331 | .636 |
| Loney | 106 | 7 | 26 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 11 | 1/1 | .245/.316/.292 | .609 |
| DeWitt | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .333/.333/.667 | 1.000 |
| Pierre | 38 | 7 | 14 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0/2 | .368/.419/.447 | .866 |
| Abreu | 8 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0/1 | .250/.455/.250 | .705 |
| Ausmus | 20 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .300/.300/.300 | .600 |
| Loretta | 39 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 1/0 | .179/.233/.205 | .438 |
| Castro | 15 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .200/.200/.200 | .400 |
| Pitchers | 64 | 3 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 1/0 | .188/.212/.266 | .478 |
| Totals | 1090 | 129 | 300 | 59 | 8 | 21 | 125 | 93 | 15/9 | .275/.338/.402 | .740 |
Outside of Andre Ethier, Casey Blake, and Matt Kemp, the offense has stunk for the past month or so. The club is averaging 4.16 runs per game during this time, compared to 5.03 in their first 95 games.
James Loney, Rafael Furcal, and Russell Martin are automatic outs right now, and Manny Ramirez isn't far ahead of them in terms of production. We can complain all we want, but our starting eight is pretty much set for the remainder of the season. Its time for them to start producing, because if they don't, the Dodgers' October calendar won't have many dates.
With Josh Fogg, who has pitched in relief all season, slated to start today for the Rockies, the time is now for the Dodger offense to hit or get off the pot.
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During that stretch
They have lost two well pitched Kershaw games (@ St Louis, Atlanta), three games where a defensive lapse hurt the team (@ Atlanta, St. Louis, Colorado), a couple of other blown saves (Atlanta, @Arizona) and finally just some tough games (Haegar against St. Louis, Lincecum @ SF, Chad’s 6th inning adventures; @ St. Louis, Chicago). I can only think of the Florida series, game two of the road series at St. Louis, Milwaukee series, last game of the Atlanta series, and Danny Haren’s start in Arizona as games where the Dodgers were probably going to lose.
How can they turn it around?
I think it starts with Manny (remember the team last year, before he got there?) When he’s mashing, everyone around him is more relaxed and seems to have better and more productive at bats. I don’t know if it’s psychological, or if I’m just imagining it, but when he’s hot, the Dodgers are hard to beat.
Manny is the main hope and best bet to improve. They need him to start producing, because when he’s hot he has a way of making the other struggles irrelevant.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Think Torre
will shake up the lineup at some point? Loretta hasn’t been the answer at 1B, what about Blake there and Abreu at 3rd?
Abreu is not a better hitter than Loney, so I wouldn’t do that.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
The lineup is not getting changed at this point, so the starters simply have to do better.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Tinkering isn’t always the answer. Clint Hurdle changed the Rockies lineup almost every day. Jim Tracy has experimented with a few things and changed it slightly, but he hasn’t overthrown anything. Many people credit that stability and confidence in players coming out of slumps as reasons for offensive resurgence.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and for the most part the Dodgers lineup has been ridiculously stable this season, at least in regards to which 8 players play. There have been some fluctuations in the order at times, but we’ve pretty much had a set 8 all season.
Its a little weird with the Manny 50-game suspension, but if we count all 50 games that Pierre started in LF (he played every inning in LF during the suspension), this season is going to go down as the most stable lineup in Dodger history.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I've definitely noticed that
though to be honest, the lineup is pretty strong 1-8, and there’s no one on the bench that’s much of a threat.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at that OPS! Blake DeWitt should be batting cleanup!
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions
On Baseball-Reference, Manny took over the LF spot on the 2009 Dodgers page.
They determine the listed starters at each position by defensive innings at each position, and Manny passed Pierre last night. LF innings to date:
Manny 577.1
Pierre 570.0
The rest of the offense is ranked by plate appearances, and the pitchers’ batting is listed after that.
It needs to start tonight against Fogg
If anything to delve into their tired bullpen to give us a chance against De La Rosa. Last nights game was very disheartening, but hopefully we can pull through today. I will say, even though Rockies fans outnumbered Dodger fans 8 to 1, there was an equal amount of Dodger gear and memorabilia floating around the ballpark. cough bandwagon fans…but that doesn’t matter and we live to fight another day.
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
People don't like wearing purple
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
True
I suppose the purple mystique associated with the Lakers makes it a little easier to stomach. Plus, purple is literally the Lakers’ primary color. The most purple the Rockies wear these days are the bills of their alt caps.
But yes, there’s bandwagon fans for sure. The only people who called in to talk radio to talk Rockies in Denver for the last 10 years (save four months) were calling to say they were boycotting the games to show the Monforts they hate them and their tight pockets and that Dan O’Clown needs fired. Of course, the stations are equally misinformed. Their initial report on Holliday being traded: “The Rockies are officially dismantling their team. Matt Holliday was traded to Oakland for three players you have never heard of.”
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Talk radio is the same everywhere
is it not. We have an excellent duo who does our Dodger Talk but the general sport hosts are totally ignorant about how to build a baseball team.
Well not exactly
The Broncos get the benefit of the doubt for starting 6 journeyman in their def. front 7, but the Rockies got blasted for being to cheap to pay Holliday and getting a bunch of “no-names”
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 26, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
don't you talk about the Broncos that way boy!
…joking aside. It’s sad that bandwagon fans come out of the woodwork when the a team is putting together a run at the postseason. I mean, heck, it’s good for the team in lots of ways; ticket sales, beer sales, apparel sales…etc.
It’s kinda like when you hear of a really good “underground” band. By the time their 3rd album has come out, and there a getting a little national attention you say to all your friends who suddenly like this band (though they refused to go to their show a year ago)…“I’ve always been a fan”. It’s a little childish to bash on the bandwagon fans, because it just makes you out be an elitist a-hole who has no life. Bring on the bandwagon fan, I don’t care!
/rant
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Why do hard core fans
resent bandwagon fans? Is it because they have a life and only get interested when things are worth paying attention to?
by meercatjohn on Aug 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
you know, that's a good question
I don’t think I would resent any bandwagon fan except those who do so with the Clippers. If the time ever comes then it should be us celebrating who have paid our dues after all the suffering! :)
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by BoulderDodger on Aug 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre simply torches RHP on the road. Andre looks as mismatched as Ryan Howard against LHP and now teams that didn’t use to bring in LHP for him are doing so. On the plus side that means with Manny behind him he will get that LHP unless they bring in a different pitcher which helps eat up a bullpen.
The offense is what it is, the only difference I see going forward is Manny hitting which as we know will make all the difference in the world. I dont’ expect Martin to start hitting with authority in August, I don’t expect Hudson to hit like he did in April. This is what he is. Maybe Rafy can pick it up a little and maybe James can have one hot streak before the season is over but with our luck his hot streak will coincide with Andre or Matt slowing down.
We have to win games when our team scores four runs. We had been bragging all weekend about our relief pitching and then we go out and have three different relief pitchers give up a run. This team can’t do that.
MLB teams when scoring 4+ runs in 2009: 1577-618 (.718)
Dodgers in 2009 when scoring 4+ runs: 59-19 (.756)
Since the Bobbleslam, it has been pretty much the same: 11-4 (.733)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The lineup is not getting changed at this point, so the starters simply have to do better.
Every time someone thinks about asking about someone else playing 1st base or moving Joe blow here and there remember that quote. Nothing is changing this year. You guys are asking about benching a 1st baseman and replacing him with either a middle infielders bat (Abreu) or a Juan Pierre bat and neither are as good as a lousy Loney bat. Pierre has been terrific as a pinch hitter lately but other then his incredible beast Mode May, his starting numbers are the same they have always been as a Dodger and that will not help this offense.
I forgot to use the Norman Dale, “my team’s on the floor” line there :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Loretta (a + middle infield bat for his career, worse than that this season) has replaced Loney against LHP quite a bit; my question was about what people suppose Torre might do if James continues to slump, not what would necessarily be the best option.
Loretta might still get some starts against LHP going forward. He has 11 starts at 1B this season, and 5 in the 18 days (although two of those were when Loney was sick against the Cubs).
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL, when you watch every game, 11 ends up seeming like a lot at this point but I guess in the scheme of things it’s not that many.
The 11 is still a decent amount, because the most starts Loney can have at 1B is now 151. I expect him to get a few more days off over the final month or so, so he will end up just under last year’s start total of 150.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya, Loney is one of the top 8 bats on the team. I could see possibly platooning him if you had a good right handed bat to replace him with, but that doesn’t really appear to be the case. Dodgers should make it a priority next year to look for one. I won’t go as far as saying we need to trade (offseason) Loney and bring someone else in to play fulltime, but it should be on the table.
vr, Xei
Runs,Runs,Runs
It pains me to see the Dodgers have a bunch of hits to turn up 3 runs… It’s a re-occuring stat line every fan fears. Loney last night was terrible, he got luck on his side in his last at-bat. When are you going to turn it on, Loney? You’re Mr. Coors. This is your time to shine. Please get something going for yourself, man. Be the clutch hitter you once were. We’re tired of the soft ground outs to 2nd.
the time is now for the Dodger offense to hit or get off the pot.
Yes! Beacuase as Chicago’s Geovany Soto’s 0.166 decline in OPS this season has shown, it is impossible to simultaneously do both.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 26, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks Eric. That was such a great closing line to your article that I just couldn’t help calling attention to it. After last night’s game, I thought we all needed a little levity around here.
For example, I was so bummed after last night’s 10th inning hit by Tulo, I really needed an uplifting distraction so I could get a good night’s sleep. So I dusted off my DVD copy of “Requiem for a Dream,” watched it start to finish, even the Special Features (which includes the musical scene cut out by Aronofsky where Ellen Barkin and Jared Leto sing “My Little Buttercup”), and now I feel GREAT!
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 26, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned Colletti is totally our guy.
The problem with the Dodger team isn’t the pitching. The team is fine on that front. The offense needs to produce more runs, but as we have seen throughout the season, the offense can produce.
No, the problem is simply that this team is playing without any fire in the belly. There is no fight to this team, no punch. And that is where Ned Colletti is a genius.
Because, you see, instead of trading for a decent starter or a premier bench hitter, Colletti went out and found himself a fighter, a man that will grab this team by the collar, shake ’em about, rough ’em up, and get them ready for the fight. That man?
Vicente Padilla

I like the cut of his jib!
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 26, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh, no...
I don’t know if you know, but the Rangers released him because he wasn’t a clubhouse guy at all. He would be alone or away from his teammates. I mean, the Rangers celebrated when he left, I think Ian Kinsler went as far as saying “Congrats” to the Ranger’s GM for doing it.
I’m fairly certain Dr. Geek’s tongue was firmly planted in his cheek.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Vicente Padilla is not afraid to grab this team by the balls and lead them in this fight.
Or grab a player from an opposing team and lead them toward his balls.
The Giants aren’t even that desperate.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
barry could play first!
he cant be that bad at it can he?
by matthewmafa on Aug 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, he can be that bad. He couldn’t play LF the last few years he was active; I don’t think its necessarily easy to step in and play 1B especially when you’ve never played it. I think to play 1B you need a lot of flexibility, and I think Bonds was lacking this, in 2007.
And he hasn’t played for nearly two years. I’m not even sure if he could hit, or stay healthy enough to hit, let alone field.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 26, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Worse offense than the Giants
Over the last 30 days, our wOBA is .318. The Giants have a .320 wOBA in that span. Our OPS is below such juggernauts as the Mets, Giants, Royals, Mariners, and D-Backs.
This makes me believe that it has to get better. We’re not in the same category as those teams, right? Right??? Hopefully it happens very soon since we’ll need as many runs as we can get with Padilla going tomorrow.
BTW, I hadn’t visited TBLA in a while until a couple weeks ago and you have a nice thing going here.
*sigh
those numbers are awful. I had no idea is was that bad.
and yeah hopefully we can give Padilla Eric Stults treatment. I know in 2 games of recent memory at coors field the Dodgers scored over 30 runs combine for Stultzy
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by BoulderDodger on Aug 26, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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