Relief Game Thread
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 9:28 PM PDT
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I actually had to switch to YES and Michael Kay so I could hear a less grating voice.
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
wihth McCann and LaRoche up
Sherrill should pitch
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t think there is any question Sherrill will start the 8th…8 pitches, and 2 LHB to start the inning. Bank on it.
this just in
George Sherrill was just attacked by a seagull in the dugout and has gone to the trainer’s room
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sunday is going to be so awesome
It’s like Kershaw’s debut all over again.
Ok, maybe not quite that cool. But still, fun I’m sure.
I wish the McCourts will stop this crap.
KABC decides that Take Me Out of the Ballgame is worth airing, FSN Prime Ticket should too.
Somebody needs to Nancy Kerrigan her vocal chords.
by Dr. Geek on Aug 7, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Furcal got thrown out stealing on a 3-1 pitch called a strike. Only the ump reversed his call, making it 2 on, 0 out. Blake eventually hit a 3-run jack.
in other news
yankees and win and people in pinstripes pretend to like ARod for a day
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
It depends on how others do I think
it’s a best of the bunch sort of thing.
The longest winning streak now is 24
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim Alderson with 6 no hit innings for Pittsburgh AA
Good work Sabean!
by silverwidow on Aug 7, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
maybe it nicked his glove
and he can get credited w/ an assist for that beaut
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Sherill does not exactly end his delivery in a legitimate fielding position
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
it's so strange to have such a great scout like Logan
combined w/ such a questionable GM
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Cooper giveth
and Eric Cooper taketh away
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions
you're right
normally, he woulda struck johnson out
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
at 1st thought
it looked like Johnson was gonna bloop that
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions
like in St. Louis!
but with a better ending… :)
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This weekend might be the first time ever the Dodgers have started a first-round draft pick in three straight games.
They had four straight games with just a draftee starting earlier in the year (with Stults and J-Mac) but not all were 1st rounders.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed…we all have some burden of blame :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
web gem for kemp
that is if ESPN knows about the other teams in the league besides the yankees and red sox
Do you have to record an out to get a hold?
If you enter a game w/ your team up two, give up a solo shot and then get yanked, do you still get credit for a hold?
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions
Yep…official rule:
If a reliever comes into a game to protect a lead, gets at least one out and leaves without giving up that lead, he gets a hold. But you can’t get a save and a hold at the same time
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
By yep, I meant I was agreeing with the “nope” :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I want him to sign something as Roger ‘the second spitter’ McDowell :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
K rod enters with a 1 run lead and leaves
with the game over 6-2
This will not happen to Brox tonight
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
Wow…Everth Cabrera!!!???
Did K-Rod point to the sky after the GS? :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
you know something is wrong . . .
when your closer has more BB’s than your starter Oliver Perez
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow…that’s like outdrinking Eric O’Flaherty*
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
*disclaimer: I know nothing of Mr. O’Flaherty.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Reds get the leadoff runner on in the top of the 9th…still 5-5
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
i doubt it
cause he’d be doing it for Norton most likely
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was thinking maybe for Prado though…
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
My bad…it shot over my head at first :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Is the gun faster?
these fucking idiots running on the field WHYY
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe like Butt’s Up, where he could stand in front of a wall with his back to Brox
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t want to know how low her boobs would be saggin’ these days
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants update
CIN has the bases loaded 1 out with Phillips at the plate 5-5
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions
The other night there was a dope on the field, and one of our AP pictures we could have used showed him. If there is one tonight of the guy getting tackled or maimed I will definitely use it.
FUCK YOU IDIOT
run on the field after the game stupid fuck when your allowed
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
Who hasn’t been bad at all…I just felt like dumping on him
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton is a horrible defensive pitcher against runners
He may be one of the worst defensive closers in baseball. His pitch selection is often really stupid, as well. But he’s also the most physically talented pitcher in the league.
Someone should adopt Andy LaRoche’s old AB song :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
for one closer
on a .500 team, it isn’t joe nathan or mariano rivera (or even huston street ducks)
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
He has blown 5 leads all year. Other than that he has been amazing.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on how loose the definition of month is…the SD game was July 5
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No worries
Ethier due up 3rd in the bottom of the 9th
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
Fuck, no!!!
I would’ve won the contest!!! I was one ball off and spot on with the balls…
Now I have to hope for a walk off without any balls…
And that's another game that cost Billingsley a win by Broxton.
They need to hash this out Bro to bro style.
What would you have done if you were Torre?
pulled out Broxton and put in McDonald? With two outs in the bottom of the 9th no less
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i wouldn't assume
joe is a great manager. I just personally witnessed that 9th in san diego. I think JB is playing hurt.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the July 5 game, Broxton’s ERA is 3.60, but opposing hitters are batting .222/.326/.222 against him (including tonight).
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The fan didn’t walk McLouth
The fan didn’t not pay attention as McLouth stole second
The fan didn’t give up a single to GA
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
now we have Brox batting 3rd
and manny on bench
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions
Its not like he was going to pitch another inning anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
it won't get that far
after Ethier ends it :)
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
on the bright side
Loretta has been outhitting Manny the last few days
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
S Rolen grounded into fielder’s choice to third, A Gonzalez scored on error by catcher B Molina, J Votto to third, B Phillips to second. 7 5
W Balentien grounded into fielder’s choice to third, J Votto scored on throwing error by third baseman P Sandoval, B Phillips to third, S Rolen to second. 8 5
B Phillips scored, S Rolen to third, W Balentien to second on wild pitch by B Medders. 9 5
You don’t see that every day.
So...
…why did Torre rush Kuo, a guy who is known for having trouble just to stick to his pre-assigned 7-8-9, and why did he make Sherrill go longer than he’s ever gone this season? wtf
Braves are full of Lefty bats which is why Sherrill pitched longer
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I realize that, and
it looks like he was tiring because he HAD to let him face lefties.
omg handedness matchups!
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
take a look at Sherrills splits
and youll see why he pitched to all those lefties
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what they are
i’m saying extending somebody who was a 1 inning closer just because you have more lefties up is dumb as hell
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
So that makes it okay?
If he makes him go 3 innings and doesn’t die, it makes it okay? I don’t only criticize when things don’t work.
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
no that's not what makes it ok
what makes it ok is that he faced all lefties but 1, and only gave up a groundball hit and a bloop double.
i’d put Sherrill through that part of the lineup every time. it’s why we got him
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what i mean though
he just kept extending him and extending him because of handedness matchups
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
but we got him to face lefties
and his stuff was still good. now if guys were mashing him then i’d agree. but giving up baserunners doesn’t make him ineffective. he gave up 2 soft hits; he was still making good pitches
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So since the Phillies have like 8 lefties at times
He should just continue pitching like 2 1/3 innings because of matchups? Seems risky.
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
well obviously at a certain point no
but i just don’t think he reached that point this game
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I will say this was just about the limit I would have thrown Sherrill…he ended up at 31 pitches…he has thrown 25 or more 7 times all year…I didn’t think tonight was that far out of line.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i think he was done if he didn't get Johnson out
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
All i kept thinking was
torre is going to kill him before the playoffs even start
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The weird thing about Kuo is that because of the injury he could have thrown as many warmup pitches as he wanted. I have to assume Kuo said he was fine and ready.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are looking too much into this.
We’re in this position now because, like Eric mentioned above, Broxton walked McClouth, then let him steal 2nd, then gave up a single to GA.
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes
A lesson? Like how to deal with idiots who think giving up a run is the end of the world?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
no, what's odd
Is letting JB pitch at all. He’s hurt, and it is afffecting his location.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
What the fuck are you talking about
the pitch to Anderson was located fine. It was a ground ball that found a hole. Shit happens.
The walk to Mclouth included two balls that were iffy. He wasn’t pulling a Kuo and throwing the ball out of the bullpen.
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Closers are like race cars
they need to be 95%.
JB is not 100% healthy.
he’s mediocre since early last month.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems like your username is now false
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
sitting him down is the nice thing to do
look at his record since july 5. sitting him for 50 games would be smart, he’d be fresh for the playoffs. huge guys like that wear easily.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
?????
who the hell sits their closer for 50 games?!?!
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Or he could lose velocity
and control and everything else due to sitting for 50 games
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep showing you his record since July 5. Learn to read or go away
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
it has exactly one win
where does that rank on non-starter wins on the dodgers in that period?
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Who the fuck judges individual players by wins? or saves?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
wins show character
I understand why someone would prefer opp obp, whip, etc. I prefer wins and consecutive appearances with saves from my closers.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
closers should not be getting many wins....
again…quoting mwhite here…do you even watch baseball?
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, this seems fundamental
but a closer comes into the game when their team already has the lead. Therefore, the only way for a closer to get the win, would be to blow the save and then hope the team comes in after him and wins the game.
Therefore, closers who get a lot of wins, are doing their best job of failing.
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
although the closer could come in
in a tie game in the top of the 9th/10th then win when his team walks off
which is why Brox has 7 wins. but why you would judge a closer on that is beyond me…
by bucknellbruin on Aug 7, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I acknowledge that wins are a strange artifact
And that truly awesome closers can be 1-3, it means next to nothing.
I just have seen 4 JB meltdowns in the past month – including the one in San Diego. I just think people see the speed and get stars in their eyes when it comes to JB.
I would hate to see him be a postseason albatross because he’s hurt.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you’re still not around come playoffs.
We need real fans cheering for the Dodgers.
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes
well, I hope he doesn't blow any in the postseason
especially if it means I’m forced to watch a one-dimensional team like the cards or shane victorino again in the world series
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would you be wanting your closer to get wins?
Do you even watch baseball?
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, it's a fetish
My favorite seasonal sports bet!
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay. That makes no sense.
Now I think you’re trolling.
Again, since July 5:
3.60 ERA, 2.92 FIP, 9.00 K/9
batters .222/.326/.222 against.
Try again.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
how does that era
compare to other closers in that period? how many saves does he have since then?
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The dodgers have been playing like shit though
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they've been playing >500 teams
for the most part. manny had a slump, but they have had some nice offense from kemp, blake, ethier, etc.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 7, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I"m just saying
evaluating how many saves he has when the team isn’t winning seems…dumb
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you a doctor?
where is this evidence that Broxton is no healthy coming from?
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I was wondering the point in the fake out here
it’s not like people are going to be shocked:
“oh my God, that’s Mark Loretta’s music!”
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Six pitch walk.
Gameday tells me not one pitch was anywhere near the strike zone.
great
hopefully thats the end of Gonzalez
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions
loretta is better than gnomar garciaparra
shit, remember how he struck out by swinging three consecutive times against the phillies to end the series?
I know
Furcal= worst OBP of the starters.
Why not keep batting him leadoff.
by Michael White on Aug 7, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If we can get them in the top of the 10th
i think we win it in the bottom. . . theyve got Gonzalez and Boone Logan left
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions
Sorry to come in late, and I love the big guy, but....
…how hard is it to look at a f’ing runner every now and then? McClouth stole, and 85 year old Garrett Anderson had 2nd stolen before the foul out. But again, that would require a pitching coach to actually coach and a catcher who actually paid attention to defense and perhaps reminds the dipshit relievers that THERE IS A F’ING RUNNER on 1st base.
FUCK!
i think you’ll find that there are a lot of closers who stink at holding on runners.
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but in a situation where the runner on 1st represents the tying run?
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes
They can only do so much really
They don’t really have pickoff moves
Broxton’s best pickoff move is stepping off the rubber really fast and holding the ball threateningly
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If he steps toward 3B, the field might actually tilt and the runner could trip :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point.
Time for Bison to do some yardwork.
by KellyStephen on Aug 7, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned Colletti's peak as a GM
I thought he was a really good GM up to that point :o
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i was like
zomg a GM who trades old grumpy useless veterans for top major league ready prospects i love this guy
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Covering all your bases there, huh? :)
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes
strikeout
catcher misses ball, throws it down right field line….diaz trips going after it and loney scores
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
or he could just ground out while i type it all out
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully thats the end of Gonzalez
pitch a scoreless 11th and we get Boone Logan
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 7, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions
good morning, good afternoon
good night
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions
"McDonald brought a dandy to the dance"
- Vin Scully, on JMac’s curveball
did we really just bunt to set up Juan Pierre?
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions
What was it that you wrote earlier, Eric?
3 times this season we’ve followed up a walk-off win with another walk-off win?
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes
Only twice…tonight would (and will) be three
by Eric Stephen on Aug 7, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
he’ll have a good view of the stars while he stands on first
by insomniacslounge on Aug 7, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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