Dodgers Add Jim Thome & Jon Garland
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:00 AM PDT
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Just when it looked Ronnie Belliard would be the biggest acquisition by the Dodgers at the waiver deadline, the Dodgers stunningly traded for both veteran slugger Jim Thome, from the White Sox, and veteran starting pitcher Jon Garland, from the Diamondbacks, who just happen to be in town for a four-game series.
To acquire Thome, the Dodgers sent Justin Fuller, a 26-year old middle infielder who was with Class A Inland Empire, per Mark Gonzales of The Chicago Tribune. Gonzales also reports the White Sox are sending cash in the deal, although the amount is unkown. Thome has a $13 million salary, and is due $2,415,301 the remainder of the season.
As Ned Colletti mentioned on "Dodgers Live" on Prime Ticket, Thome will be a pinch-hitter, as he really can’t play first base anymore. Thome last played in the field in 2007, and has played a total of four games at first base in the past four years.
Thome, with his 564 career home runs, gives the Dodgers a power threat on the bench that they really haven’t had since Olmedo Saenz. Thome is hitting .249/.372/.493 this season, with 23 home runs, 74 RBI, and a .375 wOBA. Against righthanded pitching, Thome is hitting .261/.387/.510 this season with 18 of his 23 home runs in 315 plate appearances.
Manny Ramirez was a teammate of Thome in Cleveland from 1993-2002, and called his new teammate "awesome" and "unbelievable."
To acquire Jon Garland, the Dodgers will send Arizona a player to be named later. Steve Gilbert of MLB.com reported that the player could be Tony Abreu:
Word among some Dodgers players is that the PTBNL in Garland trade is INF Tony Abreu. He would have to clear waivers to be dealt.
Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic lets us know the Diamondbacks are picking up all of Garland’s salary ($1,161,202 the rest of the season), plus the buyout – either $1 million or $2.5 million, depending on whom declines -- of Garland’s mutual $10 million option in 2010.
ESPN reported that if Garland’s option is declined, the Dodgers cannot offer him salary arbitration if he is a Type A free agent this offseason. However, it doesn't look like Garland will even be a Type B free agent, so that point might be moot.
Garland is 8-11 this season with a 4.29 ERA and a 4.61 FIP, and has not struck out more than 4.8 batters per nine innings since 2003. Insert cookie cutter Ned Colletti quote here:
Jon has been a consistent winner in the big leagues for eight consecutive seasons and we’re excited about how this deepens our starting rotation. He also demonstrated a few years ago that he knows how to pitch when the stakes are high.
I look at Garland as insurance. He’s another starter to use, in case the club needs to rest Chad Billingsley and his legs for a start or two, or Clayton Kershaw and his arm for a start or two. Also, if Hiroki Kuroda is unable to return this Sunday, Garland is another arm that can fill in as needed. There’s no way in hell I would give up Tony Abreu for Garland, but I’ll reserve that outrage until the other shoe drops.
All the guesses to the playoff roster and potential September callups just got thrown out the window. It will be interesting to see just what 40-man roster moves are made to accommodate these moves, but we will find out soon enough. Rosters expand starting Tuesday.
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there was no need for jon Garland
but ned had to trade for him and give up Tony Abrue… i would have rather given up dee gordon then abreu
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Gordon is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger trade chip than Abreu is.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but i dont want hudson back next year
we are going to pay him 3/30 for him to have average offense and declining defense… with a wrist made of Glass…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading Gordon would really be Carlos Santana II.
Abreu is more like trading Watt for a faded Maddux.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu is much better than Watt. Abreu already played in the major leagues, and played reasonably well. Losing him hurts.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but trading Gordon would be the ultimate desperation move.
At least the Dodgers have other infield prospects that can do what Abreu does.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ned would never trade Gordon
Like I said before, that’s his dream player.
by silverwidow on Sep 1, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
way better than Juan Pierre two.
Can play SS, for one. And has power.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gordon has power???
wow i never ever knew gordon had power…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has 3 homers this year
he has no power
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
16 doubles, and 12 triples beg to differ.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow 16 doubles and 12 triples
In 500 PA….
thats actually Pretty low number… i would have thought he would have at least 40 Extra base hits in 500 at bats but he only has 30…
he has even less power then i expected him to have..
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, young players have a propensity to improve. Gordon started playing baseball his senior year in high school. He has a shitload of raw talent. Long term, he has the higher upside between he and Abreu. And I like Abreu.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes i understnad
but trading abreu for garland was flat out dumb
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree with that. But you are too dismissive of Gordon.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope i love his speed
i just dont think he has POWER like tripon was saying
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gap power, look at his double and triples.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its A ball
he turns singles into doubles and doubles into triples cause the defense sucks so badly
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close to Pierre 2
Try Reyes.
by silverwidow on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reyes was in the majors at 21
but who cares about gordon right now… we traded away abreu who was the best option for us in 2010 for second base..
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Reyes, the Mets sound like they're trying to sell low on Reyes.
That’s who the Dodgers should target in the off season
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and do what with furcal?
and the 2 years and 20 mill left?
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
now your being dumb...
nobody would take him…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a soul
Maybe Dayton Moore.. Maybe
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torn Hamstring tendon
I wouldn’t go for it… How low can they go?
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
which other 2nd base prospects do the dodgers have
that can do what abreu has done this year in AAA???
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dewitt....????
he doesnt even have a .250 average in alberqure… abreu had a 350 average there with more power..
and dejesus has no power and was injured this whole year…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus has the best defense of any of the options, by far, and gets on base better than just about anyone in the system.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what hurts more is who he got traded for...
Jon Garland?/? ned come on… SERIOUSLYYY??
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
My thoughts plus the drafts pick that are coming from his signing.
Dewitt can handle it.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think dewitt can handle it
he would be another black hole in the offense like furcal loney and martin are right now..
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you know
why the Dbacks did not want to extend him. he played well every season but always got hurt before the playoff stretch. Too injury prone.
Badgers! Badgers! We don't need no stinkin badgers!
by haas on Sep 1, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was Abreu's future with the Dodgers?
Was he a future replacement for Blake, Furcal or Hudson?
by RandallP on Sep 1, 2009 12:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will play devils advocate and say
our prospects suck ass. So forgete Tony Abreu.
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Ken Levine trick of not believing Abreu existed was the preferred method of pre-coping. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true that
give him the old Karl Dorrell
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really never believed the dream of an infield filled with
home-grown Dodgers was going to happen. In some ways Tony Abreu lost his shot last year when he was hurt and couldn’t fill in at 3B or at 2B when Kent got hurt at the end of the year. At some point Casey Blake may fill a bench player role (maybe in his 3rd year) but right now he will play 3B in 2010.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
who is going to take his spot at 3rd base?
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright if you want to put a team out there who scores
3.2 runs a game…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since one player makes an offense right?
by Brendan Scolari on Sep 1, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no but putting
furcal, dewitt, loney martin dejesus … no power at all.. depending on mattkemp and ethier to score all the runs
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
and you can see how much our offense has struggled….
we are bottom 5 in offense the last month in the nl
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What year are we talking about?
I don’t really see all those guys being starters together, at least not for more than a year.
by Brendan Scolari on Sep 1, 2009 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA candidates
Haeger
Stults
Repko
These guys are gone tomorrow in my opinion.
by silverwidow on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Haeger?
That would a little premature. IMO
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Haeger is quite likely to be DFA’d. He was never thought of as more than a novelty, not someone who could be counted on
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus one more…we need 4 spots for Thome, Garland, Eye Chart, and Ohman
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 4th one is hard to guess
Lorretta SHOULD be the answer.
by silverwidow on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
With that 100% percent. Loretta has been given way too many ABs for Torre to just let him go.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only other name I can think of is Leach
He will be of no use to us with Sherrill, Kuo, and possibly Elbert around next year.
But it’s sad to give up a decent pitcher to keep Sweeney II around.
by silverwidow on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have a PTBNL to send to the Nats.
Odds on it all working itself out without DFA anymore people
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why bring Mientkiewicz back, when he just got Thome?
Isn’t Mientkiewicz only going to be used for pinch-hitting?
by fritts on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and he will also be on the postseason roster. Book it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so 3 LH pinch hitters?
in pierre thome and doug? plus loretta and castro and bellliard?
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be interesting…don’t forget Ausmus.
That makes 7 bench guys, not 6. Someone is getting squeezed out in October. I guess that’s what the next 5 weeks will determine.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe you.
You’re more “in the know,” than me. I just don’t see the point.
by fritts on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unlike Thome, Minky
can actually play 1st base and play it well, so he really could backup Loney and prevent us having Loretta out there very often. Even better would be if we could take Thome and Minky to the lab and create a new hybrid player who combined one’s offense with the other’s defense. ;-)
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
except Mientkiewicz can’t play the field due to his shoulder injury
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh still?
Well then what’s the point of even calling him back up then? If he’s not healthy, even if he can hit okay, I then think Thome officially makes him redundant.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Sep 1, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was only going to be LH PH only anyway, and you’re right, with Thome he is redundant.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think its a big loss (Abreu)
But then again, I don’t think Ohman is coming up either.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We shall bet. I say Ohman gets activated sometime by September 7, most likely tomorrow
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the usual
large souvenir cup diet coke
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reposted comment from DT because I am too lazy to rephrase it
I have always had one word in mind when it comes to describing Ned Colletti’s philosophy about his roster. And its actually two words, back up. He does not want to be caught in a situation without having adequate replacements if something were to happen.
When he constructed the 2009 Dodgers, he knew there were 2 possible injury risks in Hudson and Furcal and this year, instead of having a rookie like Hu be the primary back up, he got both Loretta and Castro, both long time major leaguers who would know their roles before the season started.
He got Brad Ausmus, as a second catcher, he already had Pierre for the outfield.
And what happened, well, only’s Manny 50 game suspension has thus far (knock on wood) made a significant impact of to the playing time of the 8 regular players.
However, his pitching staff has really been a patchwork job all year. Billingsley has missed a few starts due to hamstring problems but he’s basically been there when his turn comes, Kershaw hasn’t missed a start but he is still under a pitch count, and Wolf has pitched better than a lot thought he could.
When it comes to the 4th and 5th spots, that has been a revolving door, 7 other pitchers have made at least one start, Kuroda was out for about two months after his opening day start and when it appeared he was starting to find some consistency, he got hit by the line drive and it will probably end up costing him 3 weeks or more. Weaver has made some spot starts and everyone knows the rest from Stults to Haegar, many of these guys spent time both in Albq. and LA.
The one thing that struck me about this period, is that the Dodgers did not go out and find another mid-level guy to fill in that spot. They really just used the options they had in-house. And when you add the wins and losses from those guys, the Dodgers had a really good record.
So the deal for Garland isn’t a surprise, the surprise is that it didn’t happen in May.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt, BH, we should not be surprised
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming up to SF for the Giant series
Underdog trying to arrange a game, maybe we can also get together and watch UCLA v. Tenn that Saturday.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure let me know
If I do not have work, I would definitely love to hang with you guys.
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think our system sucks donkey balls
so we should not be surprised we had to give up an established guy.
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have faith
E. Martin, Lindblom, and Gordon will propel the system this offseason
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention numero uno, Chris Withrow.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My boy right there
I got a great job.. I love watching kids play in the Minors, no BS and lots of time to evaluate
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your job is way better than my
ball wrenching torture chest
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rather have my balls tortured sometimes.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lost in all this Abreu and "player to be named later" talk is...
Let’s take a moment to reflect the fact that we got JIM FREAKING THOME! Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know- no DH in the National League. But consider these facts-
1) The Phillies got Matt Stairs last year under similar circumstances, and sadly, we all know how that worked out- and Thome is WAY better than Stairs.
2) It is ASTONISHING how little the Dodgers had to give up for Thome, an unquestionable future Hall of Famer who has still, for the most part, “got it”. I remember as a kid in New York the reaction when the Yankees gave up Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps- who was ok, but was certainly no Jim Thome. The only lasting thing that the Yankees got out of that deal was the funniest Seinfeld joke ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
3) Manny Ramirez really likes him, and say what you want about clubhouse chemistry, but it is VERY important to keep Manny happy.
4) Many people around these parts and others have been complaining that we need a power hitting lefty off the bench, with JASON GIAMBI as a best case scenario. Seriously- how much better is this?!
5) Last but definitely not least…There may be no DH in the National League, but there sure as heck is one in 4 games of the World Series!
by sarcastro9 on Sep 1, 2009 12:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see Thome
play third during a blowout just one play. How did Kruk say that?
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kruk said Loney has Gold Glove stuff
Wow. Some comments
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, so now we know what it takes for the Dodgers to get compliments on ESPN
…if it makes other good things they do look irrelevant (“Well, why WOULD they get Thome? They already have Loney, so this move seems relatively pointless.”)
What would really be interesting is finding a clip of what Kruk said about the Phillies getting Matt Stairs, when they already had Ryan Howard. Maybe he said something similar, but I doubt it…
by sarcastro9 on Sep 1, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too many posts off to the side
for me to read
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. I still have a damn month in review to write!!! Stupid unexpected trades :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I am so above reading others’ comments!
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry, did you say something?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Sep 1, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way.
Blake DeWitt, Ivan DeJesus Jr. and Tony Abreu were all going to play the same spot in the majors for the Dodgers, and that’s on 2nd base. I don’t like the Garland trade at all, but it allows the Dodgers to lift the log jam a bit.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
then trade the worst out of the 3
not the best one
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is in my opnion
you have yours and i have mine and i would like a switch hitting second basemen with good power and very good defense
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes and dejesus is verrryyy healthy isnt he??
and dewitt is doing great over there in hitter freindly alberqurque isnt he????
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus got injured in a freak accident.
Aberu’s injuries seem to be more common place.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 abs, 6 k's
Got his 2 hits, I hope he bounces up nicely soon.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's already playing SS in the field
Which tells me its more rust than still being injured.
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How severe was that broken left leg?
I know it cost him the whole year practically, but how terrible was the fracture?
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering on why you don't like DeJesus?
by Tripon on Sep 1, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dejesus could be our shortstop of the future
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rate of Raffys shitty play is helping.
Guy refuses to take strikes and hes leadoff.
Martin is the best option there, I like it.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But since it now seems that we’re going to sign Hudson, we’re probably going to offer him a lot of bills. Abreu was going to be our next 2nd basemen (more likely than Dewitt) next year if we didn’t sign Hudson, which would be cool. Oh and we get draft picks cuz Hudson raised his stock this year.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think this trade means Hudson will necessarily be re-signed. And their other free-agent 2B, so this doesn’t mean a long term deal either. I would at least give DeWitt a shot in spring training to win the job.
by fritts on Sep 1, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCourt
does suck and the whole Prospects for average players concept is tragic
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about Andy LaRoche for Manny Ramirez?
by sarcastro9 on Sep 1, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
boston wanted to dump him
and he fell into neds lap…. same with thome…
but when ned wants to go out and make a deal… he tells other teams to pay all the salalry and he gives up a good to great prospect for average veterans..
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picks and in house
options are the exact reason to let Hudson go.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ned and frank dont care about picks
they dont want to have to pay more money to first roudners… they are cheapp.. if it wasnt for logan white we would have no farm systema and ned would have already traded away every single prospect for veterans who suck
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comment is misguided at best and wrong at worst.
For one, wouldn’t re-signing Hudson (to more money than the bonuses of many draft picks combined) be a counter to the cheap claim?
It might not be the best strategy, but it’s not necessarily cheap.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 1:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
im syaing
ned doesnt care one bit about prospects…
by matthewmafa on Sep 1, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its
McCourt mostly.. No way Logan White sits there and watches Ned do that.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn’t need to be done though, IMO
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Thome can teach Loney anything at all about hitting with power then this trade was more than worth it.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
by Jesse Sparks on Sep 1, 2009 12:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe
Most likely not though. It would be sweet though
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 1, 2009 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good discussion, people.
But my eyes are starting to glaze over. Must sleep.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I finally got a day off
I hope to ruin all your credibility by the end of the night,
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
School tomorrow at 9
Journalism
Journalism
and more Journalism…
and Bio
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor L.A.
Living here is kinda depressing, those forest fires are bitches.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 1, 2009 1:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
See
This is why I didn’t include Tony Abreu in the post about the Dodgers future at second base. It’s my gift, and my curse. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on Sep 1, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You are a regular, Robert Pattison
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm missing the connection.
Please explain.
by Brendan Scolari on Sep 1, 2009 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a thick-eyed dreamy vampire?
Killed by Voldemort. Or a prostitute with AIDS.? ; p
by trainwreck84 on Sep 1, 2009 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't look now, but...
South Side Sox are pretty depressed. What’s funny is that someone made the comment that it’s gonna be funny that Manny & Thome are gonna be on the same team, since they’re such opposites. Um, yeah, except that they’re both close friends who started their career together, and were talking about ending their career together earlier this season. Looks like they may get their wish. Who know it’d be in LA?!
by sarcastro9 on Sep 1, 2009 1:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Manny was the one doing all that talking, and you may recall that specifically, he was talking about both of them returning to Cleveland. I believe the entire 1995 Indians roster could be available in free agency this offseason.
Manny and Jim’s teammate years ended in 2000, not 2002. Manny may say Thome is awesome now, but Thome was just another teammate to walk away from at the end of 2000, when he signed with the Red Sox. Thome went on to have arguably his best two seasons as soon as Manny left.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still see tonight's loss, and any losses from here on out
as more significant than any of these trades. Not be a debby downer, but the best player out of the three is going to bat once or twice every couple of games…I don’t see any of these trades affecting the season’s outcome, and I think the Matt Stairs/Thome comparison is just too unlikely considering that was such a random and unlikely occurrence.
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Sep 1, 2009 1:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The most important thing to me is that I don’t have to read DFA Loretta anymore since he won’t be asked to do something he wasn’t supposed to be doing in the first place. His job was to hit LHP not RHP, and other then Pierre we have had no one on the bench all year who can do that.
by meercatjohn on Sep 1, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I always look for the good in things
but I’m not sure I see the wisdom in the Garland trade, unless there are questions about Hiroki coming back strong. I really thought Abreu could be a league average 2B, but in any case I am excited to have a stronger bench and more innings out of the SP.
by LA Taco on Sep 1, 2009 7:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Cowley, the Sox beat writer for the Chicago Sun-Times, was just n the Dan Patrick radio show, and described Garland as someone who really “digs himself,” and walks off the mound real slow to make sure the cameras see him. I thought that was odd.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 8:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Granada Hills High School
is the only real explanation:)
by meercatjohn on Sep 1, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy High School
Other baseball players from that school, Garrett Anderson, Jack Cassel, and Termel Sledge.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Focus
With all of these rants, it seems people are missing sight of the goal. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Here is the goal for everyone:
TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You think
Garland is going to pitch in the post season and when he does will help us win a game? If Jon Garland is pitching in the postseason then something went horribly wrong in Sept with Kershaw, Chad, Kuroda, or Wolf.
by meercatjohn on Sep 1, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. In a perfect world Garland doesn’t exist in October.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garland is there to give Kershaw’s arm a rest, to give Kuroda more time to recover, and to make sure the 5th starter by committee situation is over, meaning less innings for the bullpen.
He’s there to let other shine in October, not himself.
by LA Taco on Sep 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
colletti
Good Job Ned , We need more pitching Great call , now lets win tonight ,
by SARA S on Sep 1, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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