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When did the Dodgers shift the focus from the Farm System to Free Agency?



This post is more to foster discussion more than anything. For years, the Dodgers relied on its farm system to provide the players and the stars of the team from either calling up young players(Garvey, Sax, Mike Piazza), or shrewd trades such as for Pedro Guerrero.

 

Yet, somewhere along the way the Dodgers stopped focusing on the farm system for a long while, to the point where Joey Thurston was considered a top prospect for the Dodgers farm system.

Even today, after the rapid promotion of the Jacksonville 5, and other elite prospects such as Clayton Kershaw, the expectation is that the Dodgers is only going to get better through free agency, and that it should gut its farm to trade for players like Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, A-Gon, etc.

 

So, when did the focus shifted? When the Dodgers traded Pedro for Delino DeShields? The Gary Sheffield trade? Signing Kevin Brown?

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The focus has been pretty solidly slanted toward building a strong farm system since Logan White was hired.

There’s never going to be a time when a team simply only drafts or only signs free agents. You always need to draft well, or you won’t have any sustainable success.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 13, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm also speaking partially of local columinsts like Bill Plaschke who constantly advocated trading the farm system for veterans.

Or choosing to side with veterans such as Nomar and Luis Gonzales and Jeff Kent over Ethier, Kemp, and Loney.

by Tripon on Sep 13, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s always the case. The Dodgers took a lot of heat back in 1982 when The Infield® was broken up, even though they were aging.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 13, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Plasskey always wants to win this second

and the GM not throwing McCourt’s $$ after Beltre after a freakishly monstrous year is a sin, and one of the reasons he hated DePodesta.

If Ned didn’t wear snakeskin boots, and sign players that Plasskey really likes (Juan Pierre) he’d be getting worse treatment than DePo.

by Seanny Rotten on Sep 13, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the inherent mindset of a big market team in a big market city; while I may not agree with it, big market teams want the big names of now than prepping the stars of tomorrow.

by TheNewbster on Sep 13, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Is another team

that has the equivalents of homegrown kershaw, kemp, bills, broxton, kuo, martin, loney, troncoso contributing so much on the big league club? Boston maybe, who else?

My perception is that the FOX years were hard on the farm system, but it’s come back nicely since then but still has a way to go to get to back where it was.

by LA Taco on Sep 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

with a farm system like the Dodgers have developed

I choose winning now AND winning later any day over quick fixes. With all the new stats that have become available (and were invented) over the past 15 years, I’d like to see just one that rates how much a championship team “bought” one versus developed it. Like Eric says, it’s kind of a gray area, because there’s always a mix.

And the fact that people believe that the Yankees always buy theirs (at least, when they HAD them) is somewhat of a myth. In the 80’s that’s ALL Steinbrenner tried to do, and you see where it got him. It wasn’t until Jeter, Posada, Pettitte and Rivera formed the backbone that things really got going. This year’s type A free agency raid worked out well for them so far- which should never be allowed to happen again, by the way- but let’s see how those multi-multi year contracts look in 2 or 3 years- Burnett, CC and A-Rod come to mind immediately. And you thought the Dodgers overpaid for Pierre!

by sarcastro9 on Sep 13, 2009 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

p.s.

For all those that figure we can’t sign all the kids in a year or two when they’re supposed to make the big bucks, I say shenanigans! Just keep away from that “All we need is a #### and we’ll be perfect- hey, how ’bout him?” off-season itch, and we’ll be fine. At varying points in the next couple of years, Schmidt, Jones, Manny, Kuroda, Furcal, Blake and Pierre will be off the payroll (one way or another), and for several reasons (mostly age) there won’t be much point in asking any of them to return. Take that money, sign the homegrown talent (including Ethier), bring up more young players to fill the voids, and all will be well!

Oh, if only it were that simple…

by sarcastro9 on Sep 13, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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