Playoff Rotation
by bearface on Sep 14, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
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PrintAssuming the Bums can go wire-to-wire and finish up on top, or at least stay in the race with a WC birth, anybody have any thoughts on what the starting rotation will be? With the way Bills has been recently, and the way he did last year in the post-season, I'm not sure that he makes it over Garland who's got WS experience.
My thoughts:
Randy Wolf (10-6, 3.22 ERA, 1.09 WHIP)
Clayton Kershaw (8-8, 2.89 ERA, 1.25 WHIP)
Hiroki Kuroda (6-6, 4.00 ERA, 1.11 WHIP)
Chad Billingsley (12-10, 3.99 ERA, 1.32 WHIP)
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Jon Garland (9-11, 4.23 ERA, 1.41 WHIP)
Vicente Padilla (11-6, 4.42 ERA, 1.44 WHIP)
Any thoughts?
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Fair enough
Kershaw because I don’t think the idea of Billingsley starting in the postseason is possible any longer.
X-FIP of the Big 3 (Kuroda’s lack of innings is too significant at this point)
Bills 3.99
Kershaw 4.12
Wolf 4.23
I don’t think theres too much time left for Bills to get that game 1 start. I think he’s pitching to too much contact because he’s being told that walking people is the worst thing you can do (of course it is not.) Chad is a strikeout pitcher where his 2 “out” pitches require batters to “chase” (the cutter and the diving curveball.) I don’t think it should be surprising that as his ERA has taken a nose-dive his BB rates have gotten much better.
Kershaw is a strikeout pitcher who’s “out” pitches are the 12/6 curve which many times drop in the zone and the “4 -seamer” which he can blow past batters. As such, his ceiling is remarkably high because he can bring down his BB rates while continue to have phenomenal K rates.
Wolf has pitched into good luck this year but is still a solid #3. Kuroda should be the 4th option if available. Padilla and Garland should be told, “thanks for the help.”
by Michael White on Sep 14, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
In a perfect world (for me)
I would have Kersh and Bills both pitch game 1. Much like a Martin/Eovaldi trade.
I didn’t vote because I don’t know who our opponent in the first round will be, plus if we are playing somewhat meaningful games the last weekend of the season (playing for HFA is meaningful to me), I don’t see how you can jumble the rotation around, especially if your last game was on a sunday and your first playoff game may be on a tuesday/wednesday?
So my answer is, it’s too early to say if at all.
vr, Xei
+1
Way to early, we need to know if Wolf and Kershaw are even going to be able to pitch, has Kuroda put all his physical problems behind him, will the pumpkins burst on Padilla and Garland over the next three weeks? Just to many questions that need to be answered between now and Oct 4th.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agreed about the virtue of patience.
No matter the opponent, the NLDS schedule will be:
Gm 1 – Wed 10/7
Gm 2 – Thu 10/8
Gm 3 – Sat 10/10
Gm 4 – Sun 10/11
Gm 5 – Tue 10/13
by Eric Stephen on Sep 14, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Variables
Obviously there are lots of them. Who we’re playing. Where…but I still don’t think it’ll change all that much.
Joe Torre also preaching patience
per Beto Duran of ESPN 710:
Manager Joe Torre on how he’ll set up playoff rotation “not even looking at it, have to finish this up first”
That's What He's Supposed to Say
12 Years in New York teaches you how to avoid any potential media problems.
Assuming we face the Phillies in the first round, I’d go with the two lefties game 1 and 2 to try and deliver the knockout blow before we even have to go to Philly.
Then after a tough loss in game 3, Bills pitches game 4 with a CG SO to win the series and shut all the idiots coughPlaschkecoughRosenthalcough up
my vision
tells me that bills is just making bad pitches, very bad calling of the game. for example i remember the diamondbacks game in the first inning he got drew on a 0-2 count and I am thinking well here comes the curve
damn J martin calls for the high heat and what do you know the ball got SMOKED for a double i believe. you could tell me that well the curve was not working that night but the catcher imo or torre whoever is calling the game needs to take part of the blame too.
another thing in the giants star it seem like he always was 1-0.
his command is a little off but he will be fine. fine for a playoff star that is .
this topic will be dumb in a couple of weeks. I HOPE
my vote was WOLf
here's my vision
The guy with the best current WHIP on the team gets to start in a 5-man when we go ‘scrub mode’ in a week. He gets two near-perfect starts and knocks out (wait for it) Bills and starts game 5 of the NLCS.
i agree its still too early
we have to wait and see if we get the cards or phills first to design the lineup and rotation. playoff baseball is completely different than regular season ball. i do think that momentum going into the playoffs matter. wolf has been pitching good of late and padilla and garland have been solid since we picked em up. im not saying they start games but it should be considered because when a guys throwing in good, you let him throw good…
This One's Easy
A healthy Kershaw is our #1. He is our best chance in winning a low scoring run game. He has generally been brilliant to so-so. Kershaw’s brilliant will beat anyone else’s #1 in the league. So-so will probably mean the other team’s ace will beat us, but so be it, we don’t face him again for a while. Any reason a young guy can’t pitch on four days rest?
Then we need to get Wolf in there because you would like to see him pitch twice in a series, Mr. Consistency should be the closest thing to a sure thing you are going to get against anyone else’s #2 (Wolf looked great after he hit a rhythm yesterday).
Then today have to go with Kuroda as #3. If Bills comes back to form its his, but he’s got some work to do to get there. Then Bills (or Padilla if that’s not an option) as #4. Garland is Mr. Backup.
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