Bison Birthday Game Chat
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT
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PrintLos Angeles Dodgers at Washington Nationals, Sep 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
Here are tonight's lineups:
| Dodgers | Nationals | |||
| SS | Furcal | LF | Harris |
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| 3B | Belliard |
SS | Guzman | |
| RF | Ethier | 1B | Dunn |
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| LF | Manny | 3B | Zimmerman | |
| CF | Kemp | RF | Dukes | |
| 1B | Loney | C | Bard | |
| C | Martin | CF | Maxwell |
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| 2B | Hudson |
2B | Gonzalez |
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| P | Billingsley | P | Detwiler | |
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Kemp just needs 3 more RBIs
to reach 100 but he’ll have to keep hitting to maintain that .300+ average.
Should be easier
facing the pitching of the Nationals/Pirates/Rockies. The Rockie rotation appears winded. To bad we can’t play the wild card in the first round, would not be surprised to see them swept.
At the start of today's play, those 97 RBIs have Kemp tied for 10th in the NL, with Ryan Zimmerman
This despite 70 starts batting 7th or lower in the batting order.
I know RBI is an old-fashioned counting stat, but is there any question about the quality of the players in the NL top-10?
1. Pujols (STL) 129
Fielder (MIL) 129
3. Howard (PHI) 126
4. Lee (CHC) 109
5. Dunn (WSN) 103
Braun (MIL) 103
7. Ethier (LAD) 102
Ramirez (FLA) 102
9. Reynolds (ARI) 100
10. Kemp (LAD) 97
Zimmerman (WSN) 97
Kemp also has 94 runs scored, so he has an chance at being a 100-100 man there too.
yes
and he started so many games batting 7th and 8th, imagine the runs batting 2-5 the whole year… WOW
kemp is a stats machine
he is top 5 in fantasy next year
Imagine how valuable he would be if you had to have a "position specific" CF
and you couldn’t just play 3 LF’s on your fantasy team…
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Scoresheet is that way
my current team has Upton(RF) and Kemp(CF).
http://www.scoresheet.com/FOR_WWW/NL_Home_Town.htm
He would be the 10th 100/100 man in LA Dodger history (well, 10th season)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The list of Dodger all-time 100-100 season is 27 different season, and quite impressive:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/VZ3sk
cmon bills...scare the ghost of rolex back into the dark ages!!
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
During tonight’s game on Prime Ticket, there will be live interviews with Kershaw, Loretta, and Lasorda.
During the game? That’s very un-Dodger like. That moved is usually reserved for ESPN’s sunday night baseball and monday night football….
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be Loretta or Thome...
but since Loretta has been with the team all year it will be him.
I expect Wolf to be the pitching coach.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think it will be Loretta or Ausmus.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a Joe Torre tradition
to have his veteran players coach the last game of the year.
Last year it was Sweeney and Sturtze.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ohh
october 4th is the last game of the season…
if the dodgers dont clinch by then, which is almost impossible, would he still do it?
He only does it in meaningless games on the last day
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
At least TJ will get to hear someone else talk
He was not happy about Eric Collins calling the next 6 games.
nats starting pitcher Ross Detwiler is 0-6 with a 5.80 ERA
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
He was also the 6th overall pick in the 2007 draft. Just the sort of guy that can pop up with a nice game at any time.
His last game was nice
and he’s got good stuff but he can’t go more then five innings and ain’t nobody in the bullpen we can’t go Garate on.
He throws just over 17 pitches per inning
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
5 3 4 2 5
in his last five starts. Not quite fair since he has just made two starts since he was recalled.
True, but his FIP is only 3.80 (SSS)
which is lower than Billingsley’s ERA of 4.05 and in line with Billingsley’s FIP of 3.72
vr, Xei
I just stopped by...
…and noticed a helluva lot of you folks must have had a boatload of freetime today. 259 comments in a 3 hour time slot (most in the last 2) before the f’ing game started!!! Don’t you people have jobs?
And what's the record when Raffy scores in the first
Well the Dodgers are something like .700 when they do that.
When we score a run
in the first, on the road, against the Nationals, with a LHP pitching, we are undefeated.
Who's umping behind the dish?
Enrico Pallazzo?
by ishXdavid on Sep 23, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
the TV camera view is offset so its hard to tell. I would trust Gameday for location
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
well this game is in washington
which has a pretty hard left bias these dias
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't really care what Chad does in inning 1 - 3
but he needs to go a strong five today. He’s fooled us before with his early game mastery.
12 starts since. He has pitched six 6 times.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
but its not how he starts
its wat happens the 2nd or 3rd time around the lineup
http://duckdodgersbatscleanup.blogspot.com/
go Duck Dodgers!
but it was like after the 5th inning wasnt it? thats when the curse happens =)
http://duckdodgersbatscleanup.blogspot.com/
go Duck Dodgers!
Of course it doesn't matter how he starts
unless the start is shitty too. Can’t get to the 3rd time through the lineup if you can’t get through it once….
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
at this rate, he should be our Joba, pitch 3-4 innings and sit down
http://duckdodgersbatscleanup.blogspot.com/
go Duck Dodgers!
But we know Chad can go more than 3-4 innings. The Yankees don’t know that with Joba.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think gameday doesn’t really know which pitches are 4-seamers and which are cutters, though it tries to distinguish one from the other.
I agree
I think that’s why Chad’s “average fastball velocity” is a bit lower than it really is per Fangraphs. Cutters are being marked as 4 seamers.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Tickets are being mailed today
for the game. Look for the pretty envelopes in your mail.
We still have eight tickets available if anyone is interested. When you find out Vin Scully is going to be interviewing Eric during the game while sitting with us your going to be sorry you didn’t come for photo opp’s.
im interested btw, sorry i didnt get the details
http://duckdodgersbatscleanup.blogspot.com/
go Duck Dodgers!
Email me your address
my email is at the bottom of the page. You do know I’m only kidding about Vinny?
You’re supposed to tell him after the transaction!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
yea, but i cant turn down tix, also i havent been on here for a long time
http://duckdodgersbatscleanup.blogspot.com/
go Duck Dodgers!
Actually in the first few mentions of October 3, I had a link to a story about “world scheduled to begin” so I think we were first :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric would be the blabbering idiot with the pee stains on his shorts who couldn’t put two words together coherently if Vin ever interviewed him!
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Silly brother. I wouldn’t be wearing shorts!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
“Yo Vin…so WTF is going on with you stealing info from my site and saying it on the air like it’s your own shit? My boys here from the site ain’t real keen on that, if you know what i mean!”
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
one of those 4 strike innings
you always end up hoping for in the strike game when you lowball it
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets hope the chad show continues without a hiatus
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
if u think thats bad then are u guys ready for the brian mcknight show???
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
You have trumped me.
I give you “The Drs.”!!!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
False! I have spoken to him. He doesn’t know who I am, but we have talked.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have tried, “You know….Kelly’s brother???”
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Saying would you like more tea
Does not count. :) Hey you are a lot closer to him than I will ever be.
Sir ChadwicKKK
Innings: 2.
Balls out of infield: 0.
Me like, me like.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
I can't get too excited about Chad yet
last time he pitched an East Coast game, he had retired everyone in like 8 pitches through 2. By the time I got to the car Monday was railing on Chad for refusing to change his jersey during games….
Didn't you just a 2nd ago
tell us he has to get through the first order before we can worry about the 2nd order?
Yes I did.
And you’ve stumped me, I have no answer for my sudden change in opinion.
I just wanted to get in my dig about Monday’s obsession with the number of jersey’s Chad wears in games.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
im waiting till the 6th or 7th to get excited
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
He won't pitch 7
even if he’s pitching a terrific game. I’d be surprise anyway. Unless he’s pitching a you know what. Hopefully our standards of expectation are lower than that for him, anyway. ;-)
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
He has already failed my 27 K perfecto test.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Can’t get excitec…why not? Eric’s already popping wood!
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why he's famous
and your not
"Who would win: Coach Ditka versus a hurricane? The name of the hurricane is Hurricane Ditka"
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry to interrupt but mcgruff the crime dog was the most famous crime stopper of all time!!
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Actually it was David “Fight Back!” Horowitz
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
if only he was in the room with Bernanke and Paulson last year
history could have been so different
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They should play up that angle. “Start preventing forest fires or I will eat you!”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't they sort of do that on Family Guy
with Gary the No Trash Cougar?
"Who would win: Coach Ditka versus a hurricane? The name of the hurricane is Hurricane Ditka"
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Sep 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Whiteside is starting at catcher again tonight for SF
I agree with Xeifrank that it probably doesn’t matter much in terms of wins, but its a dick move to Posey.
The decline of Bills coincides with The Big Grabowski not posting anymore.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. and the Dodgers shall be rewarded for doing so.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He was posting this year a lot, too.
I wish Tango and/or Cash would come around more as well.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Tango would complain
last year he was the only guy in the thread then he discovered that we ruined the game for him because he’s always behind since he watches gameday.
If Chad has a bad 3rd inning, its OK. We can just blame Mark Loretta (the upcoming player interview)
not if they started out at 170 lbs or so
and grew up in the roid era
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saying
i’ve heard of guys hitting 100 MPH before but I’ve never seen a starting pitcher do it in the major leagues. So until he does it, call me skeptical.
Velocity is not the end all for a pitcher
He will have to be able to command it so its likely he will throw it a little slower.
You pitch only once a week in college.
5 man rotation, pitching every 5 days, etc. Pitchers velocities will drop after working more.
And yes
quite a few guys never hit the speeds they were measured at before they become professional. Josh Wall comes to mind.
he'll definitely be starting next spring
if Pell freezes over this Christmas
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
i just turned the game on
and this has to be the most animated ump i’ve ever seen.
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
Yeah but
I’ve never seen him this animated, or noticed anyway. He’s rocking out behind the plate!
He’s like Leslie Nielsen in Naked Gun.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
I would love to see that once, as a joke. It would have to be in spring training, but just have an ump go nuts and call strike 3 before the pitch crosses the plate.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Charlie Steiner
use to be a pitching coach? Or does he just pretend to be one on the radio?
vr, Xei
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"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Rack up another K
"Who would win: Coach Ditka versus a hurricane? The name of the hurricane is Hurricane Ditka"
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Sep 23, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
I think one of the posters at DT has gone…
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hollywood Joe did. I need to corner him to get more stories
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha. That story is funny. I think of it every time I see that commercial….
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Send him these comments and I bet he’ll come.
wish he’d pop over here once in a while.
by meercatjohn on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, he is a very good poster
by mwhite06 on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hollywood Joe did. I need to corner him to get more stories
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to try and convince him to come out to True Blue night
He can tell his Jerry Reuss story
I found it strange
that they were using the Vero Beach facility. I fully expected them to use the Arizona site.
Last year on the lease (for the camp at least)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
oh i thought u meant adult as in adults films hahahahahaha
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Atlanta still plays the Nationals 7 more times
They could make things a little uncomfortable for the Rockies if the Rockies have problems with the Padres and Cardinals.
which partially explains the pecota bias towards them vs the marlins
still hanging around @ 4% postseason odds
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
belliard could be a threat to the odogs spot in october
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
matt kemp 100 RBIS
in the at bat coming up?!?!?
It’s funny that smart fans love to use advanced metrics, but deep down, 100 RBI is still a satisfying achievement even if it may not seem ‘cool’ anymore.
Just like 300 wins still feels good....
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't like the camera angle
in DC. It reminds me of the weird viewing angle they have at Duke’s Cameron Indoor Stadium.
Good call.
Maybe the fans should start jumping around
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going go ahead and say
that Eric Stephen jinxed Matt Kemp today with the birthday thing. Too much pressure :P
I’ll trade today’s Kemp success for Bills :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If Manny's fly had been deep enough to move up Belliard
Kemp might have had an RBI with an SF. Maybe.
Today's game reminds me of 8/15/06
They were threatening to pull Bills from the rotation due to excessive walks. So he goes and has the best performance of his young career.
that's really my only complaint about that outfield
i think with some training i could take andre in a 40 yd dash
that works too
as long as they spot me a smoke break 30 yards in
by stillnotah8er on Sep 23, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
answer to Prime Ticket trivia…
1st player selected in 1st ever amateur draft.
It was 1965. The KC A’s took Monday
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
hey late to the party, but whats up with this weird sky cam angle on hits?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
really, hmm i feel liek i havent noticed that before
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
But that particular camera is always based in the press box
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw Darren Dreifort
badly. The Dodgers had the worst record in baseball but the M’s got the first pick cause it was the AL’s turn. Arod could have started off as a Dodger :(
:(
Not only that, but Arod WANTED to be a Dodger. We could have had the 5 tool Arod without all the steroid and Madonna controversy Arod.
And if we hadn't traded Pedro
It would have been like the 2000 Mariners, with Arod, Griffey, and RJ…but they won 116 games the year after they lost all 3….so idk.
I read about it earlier this season, from some article, not sure who wrote it.
Oh well, we could have only had Mike Piazza, Pedro Martinez, and Alex Rodriguez all together. :/
if they somehow sticked together on the dodgers with 04 adrian beltre!!!
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
I would imagine that they would have been broken up by Free Agency by maybe 2002
But that still means at least 6 years, hopefully in this alternate reality it would have been 10 years at least, to win in the playoffs. What could have been…
Teddy Roosevelt out with a hamstring injury — fastest Washington Nationals Presidents Race loss ever. he could miss 2-4 weeks
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Having one of the top bats in the last couple decades would not have helped the Dodgers? That’s news to me.
That is right
he couldn’t have improved on the likes of these studs
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/SnxDT
they certainly woulda had more playoff appearances
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
If Chad keeps this up, people will be going from leaving Chad out of the playoff rotation to having him start Game #1 again.
vr, Xei
He should be the #4 starter if Joe uses him and if he continues to pitch well.
Wolf, Kuroda and Kershaw should be starters 1-3.
i think hes already gauranteed #4
remember we still havent seen shaw give a full start in weeks
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I really don’t care if they throw left or right at this point, I just want quality pitching.
Wolf had one good start vs the Cards, Kershaw had 8 great innings and one bad start vs the Cards.
I think so too in many cases.
This case I feel is more about our team instead of their team.
I don’t think were going to sweep the Cards and I don’t think they will sweep us, AND I think were going to use 4 starters this playoffs.
and if we matchup with the Cards, we can somewhat keep them off balance with L Wolf, R Kuroda, L Kershaw, R (Bills, Padilla or Garland)
Did Steve Lyons
just say that Furcal has the best hands on the team? I sure hope he doesn’t. I’ve never been impressed with Furcal’s hands.
I don't think giving up a run or two is the issue
Its how he keeps his composure and battle out of the tough innings that will be the test.
He could have just hit them both and saved some pitch count
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, since Bills has allowed two baserunners through 4, let’s get someone up. Good grief…give the guy some leeway here
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He was joking…batters are 1 for 20 against Weaver with bases loaded
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You are associated with me. Can you blame him? :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually…i responded before looking at who wrote it. Cardinal sin on this blog. I do apologize.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
my sincerest apologies…i’m a little sensitive…long day at the office!
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
time to go home and beat the wife and kids
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
least u get the most dangerous hitters outta the way...well sorta
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Bills Splits
None On .220 .299 .364 .663 103 Ks in 409 at bats
Runners On .304 .368 .414 .782 52 Ks in 263 at bats
wow!
you are out of room lol!
in the 4th inning!
damn- you've really latched on to this!
I’m just waiting for him to make a diving play on a bases loaded groundout- hopefully, it won’t come to that tonight!
My thinking on the Lasorda portrait: why did they dude paint an older Lasorda in uniform? Why not a semi-younger one?
I know, I wonder if they made Lasorda dress up in uniform.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s what i hear…kind of like the portrait shot in Airplane.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
blown call?
Something like that happened to the Mets against the Nats, but they (the Mets) screwed up, of course, and one baserunner overran the other, because they were confused about the blown call. It’s on the highlight reel at Dodger Stadium.
Leave it to the Mets to use a blown call in their favor against themselves! :))
what is that, i think i can make out the atlanta logo and an sft?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
i garantee its over this inning cause you said that
last time i said it in the d backs game it ended in the 5th too
He deserved that
shouldnt have been on in the 1st place
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 23, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
Furcal didn’t want to anger the karma gods :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
though, I do recall
he had no problem accepting that “hit” in the 9th against Lincecum last month! :)
strike 3 was on the fringe, but still a defensible strike call. He’s been good.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike & Ikes are better, but Hot Tamales are good.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That would work better against the Astros :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Detwiler doesnt have bad stuff
too bad he plays for the Nats
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 23, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
They got some decent young pitchers
They just signed one, don’t remember his name though. :)
vr, Xei
In a few years they will have a decent rotation
Mock/Detwiller/ZImmerman/and some guy who you might have heard of. I loved Zimmerman before he went down. Great stuff.
Jason Birdman is pitching for the nats in da 6th
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
New thread. Sorry for the jinx
http://www.truebluela.com/2009/9/23/1052421/welcome-back-chad-continuation
It needed to be done. And I did it while the Nats were in the field.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We need a home run
the home run streak is all I care about right now. That and something else I can’t mention at the moment. Because when it is our guy, I’m not going to be the guy to screw it up.
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