Dodgers / Nationals Season Finale Game Chat
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:45 PM PDT
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PrintLos Angeles Dodgers at Washington Nationals, Sep 24, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
Here are the numbers of the main members of the Dodger bullpen since the All-Star break:
| Pitcher | IP | ERA | FIP |
| Kuo | 22.1 | 1.21 | 1.90 |
| Broxton | 31.0 | 1.45 | 2.54 |
| McDonald |
30.0 | 3.30 | 2.98 |
| Sherrill | 23.1 | 0.77 | 3.06 |
| Troncoso | 22.0 | 5.32 | 3.20 |
| Belisario | 18.1 | 0.49 | 3.70 |
| Mota | 21.1 | 2.95 | 4.98 |
| Dodger Bullpen |
216.1 | 2.83 | 3.38 |
Here are tonight's lineups:
| Dodgers | Nationals | |||
| SS | Furcal | CF | Harris |
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| RF | Ethier | SS | Desmond | |
| LF | Manny | 1B | Dunn |
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| CF | Kemp | 3B | Zimmerman | |
| 1B | Loney | LF | Willingham |
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| 2B | Belliard |
RF | Dukes | |
| 3B | DeWitt | 2B | Gonzalez | |
| C | Martin |
C | Burke |
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| P | Padilla | P | Martin | |
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I’ve been meaning to write about him more.
I did have a story with him on August 27, but yes, he has been a tad under-represented
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
When discussing Padilla, anyway, we need to use terms like “lineup” rather than “audition” because of his resemblance to the Nightstalker :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, so after Broxton and Kuo
the next best reliever (according to FIP) is….
wait, that can’t be right.
It needed to be pointed out (again) after the disproportionate hatred of McDonald in last night’s game thread.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
just don't bring up the guy with the best whip
now that we have tossed that metric into the dustbin of history
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, sort of, ya...
WHIP is better than ERA, but inferior to FIP (IMO)
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
“Furcal probably should be ready to go tomorrow.”
per Joe Torre in May of 2008….
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
Also, kind of muffled but not heard on microphone was “but I’m still starting Belliard at 2B.” :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
“ready to go” code word for “ready to sit his ass on the bench again and watch someone else get his 4 plate appearances and watch $40K fly out of his hands and back into Frank’s wallet”.
i wonder if Joe’s getting 25% of O-Dog’s unpaid incentive…
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It was either that, or the office would get new chairs or a copier.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
or a season's supply of BIGELOW GREEN TEA
no, wait, that’s free
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's an interesting thought
Start Kuo in the playoffs???
I know he’s not stretched out, but it’s an interesting look from a power stuff standpoint.
I would love to see what the inside of your head looks like :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Look out the window on a clear, cloudless day :)
(SW: just kidding…too easy a softball to pass up)
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Silverwidow is a good dude, so I don’t think he’ll have a NashvilleDodger-type reaction :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
My brother flippantly mentioned Deliverance, and was told to go fuck himself.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he didn't suggest that Withrow start a playoff game
and only suggested a person who has not thrown more then one inning even one time this year.
withrow should start game 1
and kuo game 2
lindblom game 3
padilla game 4
and in a 7 game series
kershaw for game 8 and wolf for 9
I would love to have Kuo transition back into a starter
I think having 4 days of rest every in between games would be better for his arm than what he’s currently doing now (or what he did last year.)
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
He’s all about the stuff. He needs to be able to go all out to be effective, and relieving is the best way to do that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In the past I wanted Kuo to start
but from I can tell they don’t think they trust him throwing breaking balls as a starter. He’s had a hard enough time just throwing the hard stuff for one inning and staying healthy.
There was no bigger proponent of making Guo a starter in his early Dodgers days, but even I cannot fathom making him a starter again due to all his injury track record. Whatever role best suits the health of his arm, is the role I am in favor of.
vr, Xei
And then his arm blows off, and Torre will blame a young buck named Silverwidow for giving him the idea.
But no. If they do that for some reason, then they need to find a 2nd lefty for the pen.
elbert is not ready
he needs more time in the minors…
check out his minor league splits this season..
Lighten up
The whole suggestion was simply to get a rise out of people. Just like that line yesterday or the day before about offering Pujols a billion dollars (that one obviously didn’t work).
I’d much rather have Elbert be the starter
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Elbert will ever be what we want him to be
It is subjective but he’s been very unimpressive to me. Just a wild ass lefty.
It could be a springboard like Bob’s Kuo comment on DT in 2007
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i totally agree with this statement
even tho i hate it, its the truth
Im going to miss you guys today.
House hunting. I hate getting stuck with Charlie. Keep the sarcasm flowing.
Dodgers are 26-9 when he leads off on base (including last night’s loss)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
u know things r good when furcals getting hits
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
u know things r good when the first 3 hitters get hits
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
We were talking about their hitting not their pitching
but whatever.
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i called them horrible
you correctly noted that their pitching was horrible, wheras their hitting was merely bad
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
But this explosion in the first inning
of Dodgers hitters agains Nats pitching has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion in the previous thread.
Yet you used it to further your claim (the one that was being disputed.)
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
i would contend
that the presence of JD on the mound is part of the package
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah. I get excited when reading upthread
and seeing 15 notification boxes pop up. I was not disappointed.
I will now post 100 Bison Bison pictures
in honor of each RBI
a 10 pitch AB
with only one ball is a bit odd
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Belliard is a much better 2B defensively than he is at 3B.
Same for DeWitt in reverse
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tonight is the 9th time the Dodgers have had (at least) their first 3 batters reach base. They are 7-1 in the previous 8.
The times it has been only hits to start (all wins):
May 3 – single, double, double, single
May 31 – 5 singles
July 9 – double, single, single
Aug 16 – double, single, homer
would matt kemps homerun be classified as
Home run to Center Field
or
Home Run to Left Center Field?
Belatedly, that's why they call him The
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→
Congrats to the Bison
on his historical L.A. Dodgers season
dodgers have the highest average attendance for home games in the entire league....
thought it was the yankees first…but ok nice
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
yeah that plays into that number alot
todays newer stadiums are smaller
and charge more for tickets
dodgers have the largest stadium thats not a multipurpose stadium at 56,000
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
if that didnt hit the wall it woulda been a triple
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
I’m pretty sure that would be fatal. But, I’m no doctor.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe this will keep padilla out of the playoff rotation
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Hey we got more from Padilla then even the dreamiest dreamer was dreaming of
so he can get bombed now that we don’t really care. Couldn’t have picked a better game to get rocked.
Notice Eric's chart above
we already have a really really really good bullpen.
Padilla will be left off the postseason roster and we’ll never hear from him again. Oh well.
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
for the first time tonight i can hear the crowd
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
With the Pirates losing today, the Nats really can’t afford to win this game.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Sep 24, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Haeger can go longer
though with the Dodger bullpen, I guess it doesn’t really matter.
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
he's really good everywhere
as long as he doesn’t try his ‘fastball’.
this is why he has the team’s best WHIP.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
same IP as Belilsario
listed in the header
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
and its actually his slider
not his fastball…
haegar?
the guy who befuddled the cardinals and the other team.. i forgot who
haeger over the hwy 5 speed limit
under 75, i believe only pujols tagged him
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell happened?
I leave from my friend’s house and drive 8 minutes to my house and now we’re giving up a 4 run lead?
brad penny last weekend, smoltzy yesterday, padilla today??
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
the Nats and yanks r both chasing number 100
the nats can beat the yanks to 100 with a dodger win tonight
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
anyone else think this is a good reason not to put padilla in the playoff rotation??
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 24, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes
You just dont know if hes gonna have a good day or bad day.
by desecrator09 on Sep 24, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
will weaver make the postseason roster??
or will haegar or padilla make it over him as the long man?
See guys, everybody chill
Padilla got out of it giving up three runs. He can still pitch a good game.
the interesting thing with Padilla to me
is that a few weeks ago in a post, someone put up a listing of his games pitched this season. He either pitched great or pretty bad one it seemed. If I remember right. It made me think, maybe if in the right situation, he might be a pitcher right in between those two drastic sides. Maybe the guy can learn to mix well in a good clubhouse with good coaches and revive his career.
by Ian Capilouto on Sep 24, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
if intentional, kind of strange
JD is on the bubble in terms of not looking like complete garbage for the season… really not in his interest
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Just stopping by to say...
Holy shit, Vicente Padilla is so good. Re-sign him for 3-years to be our ace! Woot!
by Chad Moriyama on Sep 24, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes
He’s clearly doing the job that Billingsley isn’t capable of. Sign Padilla and trade Billingsley for David Eckstein.
you mean world series MVP david eckstein?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
he definitely plays with heart
and his two-team starting lineup championship status reflects that
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
padilla batting...ugh damnmit
dont swing and hope for a walk
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Not a complete fail
They did extend the lead to two. Unfortunate Belliard could hit at least an SF himself.
Collins is cool because he does bring up stat analysis sometimes.
He sounds like a dork on air, but I could grow to like him
As long as he keeps his pants on.
by David Young on Sep 24, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isnt Steve Lyons the guy who said....
The Dodgers are hitting too many Homeruns??
Jon Garland, Randy Wolf, Clayton Kershaw and Hiroki Kuroda will start the Dodgers’ four-game series in Pittsburgh that starts on Friday, in that order.
Kershaw, who was out for more than two weeks with a separated non-throwing shoulder, will be on a pitch count of around 70.
charlie doesn't give out many walks
in that massive sample size
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
After the game....
Imma watch that old Nickelodeon show As Told By Ginger….
of course there is
didn’t you watch the huskies game?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 24, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is some strike zone Jerry Crawford is using
The green are called balls. Check out how many are in the box.
for a sec i thought u meant joe crawford haha
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Well they have replacements comin in this yr
by desecrator09 on Sep 24, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
remember tim duncan getting ejected for smiling
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
shaqfor3....
You read that article I posted yesterday about Artest and Ariza??
no i havent been on silver screen and roll today
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
oh that one i read
all i was saying yesterday was i hate losing a player that had a ton of good years ahead and was quick and athletic
artest is definitely an upgrade but hes doesnt have as many years ahead compared to ariza…thats why i had cold feet about the trade
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
I'm just going to randomly sing, just to take my mind off this
“whoaa, dream weaver…I believe you can get me through the night”
Jerry Crawford sucks at union tactics as well.
Crawford was the president of the Major League Umpires Association in 1999 when the umpires attempted a mass-resignation strategy. The strategy was unsuccessful. While Crawford kept his job, 22 umpires’ resignations were accepted. Some have since regained their major league positions, others have been promised a position as soon as a vacancy occurs, and some were offered settlements that did not include a return to the field.
Kershaw should take “power shagging” lessons from his dad.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry and Joe Crawford = sons of Shag Crawford, longtime MLB umpire
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Good ol' Shag. What a name fora guy.
I always liked saying Chuck Merriweather’s name. sometimes I just say it or think it randomly.
by Ian Capilouto on Sep 24, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember reading that Eric Gregg couldn't get reinstated and to work at a stand in Philadelphia in order to get work.
Not that Gregg was any good at his job.
the dodgers can help the nats clinch 100 tonight with a win
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
This is going to be a nice long winded game
Just what I need while I am diligently doing library school homework
and he walks like hes 7 feet tall and all muscle...guys focus!!
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
was bound to happen
better now than the first day of the playoffs, when people would’ve been deceived into thinking he’s preferable to a semi-slumping O-Dog.
(of course, he’s preferable to an INJURED O-Dog, but hopefully, that’s not the case)
lets hope he gets throught the 5th then we can turn it over to the bullpen
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Just read ESPN the Mag article on Matt Kemp
Thought this was cool. From Eric Neel:
The first time Kemp stole a base as a major leaguer, on May 29, 2006, Braves broadcaster Don Sutton said that he looked like “a big buffalo” because of his size (6’3", 225 pounds) and speed. The comment spawned a nickname, The Bison, which the country boy from Spencer, Okla., likes so much that he puts a picture of the animal on the heels of his game spikes
perfect combo
good enough to win…not good enough into lulling people into falsely believing he’s playoff starter…
Hopefully
not good enough to get a multi-year deal from Ned. Of course, anythings possible…
by Seanny Rotten on Sep 24, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
en fuego!
and apparently Ethier left his razor at home. Christ almighty.
by Seanny Rotten on Sep 24, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Repko’s isn’t going to be on the playoff roster?
by Ian Capilouto on Sep 24, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, that’s true. But I don’t really want Pierre getting AB’s in the playoffs anyway. If the point is to give Ethier a break and not get someone else work, then either one works I suppose.
Just trying to continue getting my Pierre hate on.
by Michael White on Sep 24, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be nice to clinch the division
and then rotate some of the bench guys in the lineup for a nice tuneup
everyone quit on the dodgers and went to join the McCovey Chronicles
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
he is one of the worst ive seen this year
it seems like he doesnt know what movement is…
hes like a left hander getting a pitch at his belt that goes back to the strike zone
he gives up on it…
he really sucks
hes got the same genes as joe crawford
so yeah it runs in the family…
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
is it me or is this game ultra long and boring??
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
Jonathan Broxton, Dodgers
Big Jon is untouchable right now. The 25 year-old closer with NFL lineman size has not allowed a run to score on his watch in over a month (Aug. 19th, to be exact). Over that time frame, Broxton has laid waste to hitters with 26 K’s and three walks in 14.2 IP. Jon has 13.69 K/9 for the year, while inducing weak grounders when hitters actually do manage to make contact (55.2 GB%). Broxton’s +3.60 Win Probability Added is tops in the National League.
he is definitely not our guy
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 24, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this and the last game = ton of errors (mainly nats)
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
where the f was loney going
why didnt he go to first base right away…. did he think that belliard , a better defensive 2nd basemen then o dog wouldnt get that???
I always felt like the Expos played the Dodgers tough.
I feel like this has carried over to the Nats.
?
it wasnt belliards fault in my opoinioon
thats the kind of situation i talk about
if the next batter is a lefty i don’t want to risk sherril or kuo for one out
the dodgers need a lefty loogy
scott elbert gets the call
new thread
http://www.truebluela.com/2009/9/24/1053778/dodgers-nationals-continuation#comments
i dont think anyone posted this
damn it!
judging by the Gameday location, and what people were saying about that last play in the field, this is neither Road Loney nor Home Loney. This is Spaced Out Loney…
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