Torre On The Verge Of Entering Select Company
The Dodgers went through loads of extra security upon arrival into Pittsburgh yesterday, with the G-20 Summit in town the same time as the Dodgers. Perhaps their offense didn't make it past the Secret Service in time for the game. No matter, because the scales are still heavily tipped in favor of the Dodgers in terms of making the playoffs and winning the division.
The Dodgers will make the playoff with one more win, or one more loss by the Braves. That could come as soon as this morning, as the Braves are set to play the Nationals at 10am.
Once the Dodgers clinch a playoff berth, it will be Joe Torre's 14th consecutive playoff appearance, tying the record set by Bobby Cox four seasons ago. Here is a look at the two playoff runs of these two legendary managers:
| Joe Torre | Manager | Bobby Cox |
| 1996-2009 | Years | 1991-2005* |
| 14 | Playoff Appearances | 14 |
| 12 | Division Titles | 14 |
| 2 | Wild Card Berths | 0 |
| .598 | Winning % | .606 |
| 6 | Pennants | 5 |
| 4 | World Titles | 1 |
| 2 (1996 & 1999) | Head-to-Head Wins | 0 |
| *The 1994 strike season is counted in Cox's win% | ||
Randy Wolf has made 11 starts against the Pirates in his career, and his teams have won 10 of those games. Wolf himself is 7-1 with a 3.44 ERA and an estimated 2.95 FIP in his career against the Pirates.
Rafael Furcal got a single last night in the eighth inning to extend his hitting streak to nine games. He has reached base in 18 consecutive games, and is hitting .368/.442/.592 over that time.
Paul Maholm is 2-2 in his last six starts with a 2.72 ERA, and has pitched at least six innings in nine of his last 10 starts. Why, that's almost as good a run as Wolf, who has pitched six innings for 16 straight starts.
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| Team | W-L | GB |
| Dodgers | 92-62 | --- |
| Rockies | 87-67 | 5 |
| Braves | 83-70 | 8½ |
Today's scoreboard watching
10:05 am
Braves (Tommy Hanson: 10-4, 3.66 FIP) at Nationals (Garrett Mock: 3-9, 4.17 FIP)
Gameday
The Dodgers can clinch a playoff spot today with a win OR a loss by Atlanta
5:10 pm
Cardinals (Adam Wainwright: 18-8, 3.23 FIP) at Rockies (Ubaldo Jimenez: 14-11, 3.35 FIP)
Now that is a pitching matchup! The Dodgers' magic number to clinch the NL West is three.
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Game Time: 4:05pm
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BTW, those winning percentages equate to averaging 98 wins (Cox) and 97 wins (Torre) per 162 games. That’s just ridiculous over that long of a time period.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed that Scott Elbert, who got one out with his one pitch last night, hadn’t pitched since September 13. Nothing like 11 days of rest in between outings!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s been in the bullpen warming up often in the bullpen though
by shoothoop on Sep 26, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
L.A. Times has it 4.
You know why its 3, I know why it’s 3, but they’re not celebrating until they’re sure they have a better record over the Rockies, and not before.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It becomes three as soon as the Braves can’t pass them. I don’t know how I can make that any more clear.
The team knows it, the players know it. And they WILL celebrate if it comes down to that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way the division magic number is NOT 3 is if all 3 come via Rockies’ losses, and the Braves don’t lose.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve already told my story of the 1995 division race, when they celebrated winning the division once they clinched a tie with the Rockies with one game left, because they were assured of making the playoffs (over Houston) and owned the tiebreaker with the Rockies.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA league rankings
I think we are going to DOMINATE the Midwest League rankings (BA releases them on 10/1).
Dee Gordon has a chance to be #1. Martin and Eovaldi will place highly. Then we’ve got Aaron Miller and even Kyle Russell with a top 20 shots. NICE.
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Miller
… was not in the league long enough to qualify for a BA league top 20 list. I am not sure Eovaldi will make the list, and if he does he won’t place very high. Underwhelming K rate. No high-round draft pedigree.
by CanuckDodger on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Evoladi.
Somebody in the Dodgers organization is going to mention why Eovaldi and Martin was tag teaming for so long.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't understand this post
What are you saying exactly?
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t it just to limit their innings?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That the Dodgers wanted to limit both Evoladi and Martin innings show how highly they think of both of them.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eovaldis coming of TJ sugery
but yeah…. eovaldi might be in the top 20… i dont know how good the prospects in the league are tho
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s generally a pitchers’ league, because of ballparks, I believe.
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i read somewhere the #1 guy
was between some vitters dude and jaff decker of the padres
by hirambocachica on Sep 26, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Keith Law
I wrote in chat the other day that Chad Billingsley was “awful,” but should clarify that what was awful was his command and approach, not the quality of his stuff. He worked primarily with four pitches, a 90-94 mph fastball, his usual 77-79 mph curveball (sharp all night except for the disgusting hanger he threw to Ryan Zimmerman, who flew out of his shoes when he saw it coming), and an 88-89 mph cutter I hadn’t seen from him before that could be almost as good a weapon for him as the curveball. He started out just missing the edges of the zone with his fastball, but as the game went on he was missing his spots by wider margins, and eventually lobbed the garbage curveball that cost the Dodgers the game. Washington’s lineup isn’t as strong as those of the three teams currently occupying NL playoff spots, so Billingsley’s outing can’t have given the Dodgers much confidence in how he might perform against the Phillies or Cardinals in the NLDS.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would consider Keith Law a relatively unbiased observer
so I find that comment a bit disconcerting.
Tripon – that is at least fanshot worth, I would think. How are the Dodger Blue doughnuts coming?
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get why people want 18 hour donuts.
It’ll be 5-6PM by when we meet. It’ll be sitting in my car for at least a couple of hours in a soggy donut box.
And I’m not going to ask my dad to bake a new batch for free.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playoff fever!
You should sell Dodger doughnuts in the shop! Cake doughnuts with Dodger blue icing and white sprinkles!
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that's why Billingsley walked Mike Morse :)
Morse hit a 3-run jack, cutting the Braves lead to 6-4…bottom 6th
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
braves winning
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Braves winning means more pressure on the Rockies.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit
and the brraves play nationals 5 more times… out of 8
it might be dodgers vs atlanta…
vasquez lowe hanson jurrgens… we can beat them especially with their anemic offense
i think we would do good against their pitchers… vasquez is tough but has never been a true ace guy, lowe is lowe, hanson is young and i think we got a chance against him and jurrgens we roughed up a little twice this year…
i defintly like our chances against the braves more then the phils or crdinals
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards scare me the most in a 1st rd match-up
I think we can beat the Phillies.
Braves would be interesting. Kershaw and Wolf should definitely start Games 1-2 against them.
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bad thing about the phillies is
hamels OWNS us
and lee won the cy young last year and blanton can limit the damage while their offense beats up on the game 3 opposiing pitcher…
but their bulpen is bad…
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably atlantas our best matchup
id rather play them or the phillies
at the same theyve been keeping us from clinching
oh well…it will happen anyway
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ichiro ejected for the first time today in his ML career
LOL!!!!!!!!! for arguing balls strkes
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
injuryexpertSam Bradford’s in Birmingham visiting Dr. Andrews.14 minutes ago from Tweetie
Bradford must be kicking himself in the ass right now. He could have went in the NFL draft last year and making gobs of money instead of screwing up his draft stock being injured at OU.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least he took out an insurance policy
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The expierence thing was overblown for players like Bradford, or Sanchez.
All teams draft now are on potential, so you might as well go when your value is at the highest.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RT @RobBiertempfel: #Dodgers @ #Pirates 9/26: Furcal 6, Pierre 8, Ramirez 7, Kemp 9, Blake 5, Belliard 4, Loretta 3, Martin 2, Wolf (11-6, 3.24) lhp
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Loretta’s 2nd start since Aug 29 (house money 5 regulars sit game vs Pit was the other)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 1:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
lol Loretta.
I think if we just activated Donnie Baseball for the rest of the year, he’d be more productive.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we don't see the eight regulars start together again this season.
I will take it as a good sign that The Beard is ready to start again.
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next time will be wednesday oct 7
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 2:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
RT @RobBiertempfel: #Pirates v. #Dodgers 9/26: McCutchen 8, LaRoche 5, Jones 9, Doumit 2, Milledge 7, Pearce 3, Young 4, Cruz 6, Maholm (8-9, 4.46) lhp
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
So it appears they are playing today?
by delias man on Sep 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
D-Backs will shop Stephen Drew
According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today. They need pitching help.
Tony Abreu is the obvious SS replacement for them.
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
is this a serious comment
or are you joking?
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was touted as good as Tulo and nowhere it.
.270 /.327/.446 for his career, and a career -23.0 UZR.
He’s not really a SS.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
you really want a shortstop to be as good as tuulo..
he is a top 2 shortstop in the mlb
drew hit 20 homers 40 doubles and 10 triples last year.. and playing a solid shortstop..
this year he was injured and the team sucked
this guy is a top 3 or 4 nl shortstop …
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew isn't as good as Reyes, Tulo, Escobar, Hanley Rameriez,
J.J. Hardy plays way better defense, Everth Cabera has some upside that I would rather risk with than Drew.
He’s a middle of the road SS that is going to get expensive because his counting numbers are out of whack of his actual production.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol at jj hardy and cabrera
escobar and drew are similar and reyes is INJured!
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to keep it to just this year.
Drew: .259/.323/.430
Yunel: .298/.376/.438
Yeah, the only difference between Yunel and drew is about 50 points of OBP
J.J. Hardy?: .228/.300 /.356 Okay, that’s worse, but he’s is a better defender.
Everth Cabera: .257/.342 /.362, He has over .20 worth of OBP over Drew.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
drew is having a down year
and is doing almost as well as yunel in yunels breakout season…
the comment you made of drew sucking was wrong… and you are proving it by all these comments you are making… thanks for helping out my point
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Yunel’s OPS+ for his career, year by year, are 119, 103, 116. for an average of 111.
Drew’s OPS+ for his career, year by year, are 117, 72, 110, 91 for an average of 95.
Drew’s a horrible inconsistent offensive player.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't played long enough to be called inconsisten
unless you also think Tulo is inconsistent considering what he did last year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By not playing long enough
I’m talking about full time starter at bats
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew's in his 4th season as a MLB starter.
Its getting to the point where he is what he is. A guy who doesn’t walk, lives by his BA, strikes out 18.3% of the time, and needs a high BABIP to lift his offense up, but won’t be able to do it since he’s not a gifted enough hitter, or fast enough to sustain a high BABIP.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly, Stephen Drew has 305 more PAs than James Loney. Loney only Ks 11.8% of the time, but the rest of your description of Drew is not far off from Loney. If Loney is scuffling along next season with a one-oh-something OPS+ at the halfway point, would you be in favor of using him to obtain what the Dodgers would need in July?
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it means a clear upgrade.
Which means Fielder, Votto, A-Gon, and not lol Garko.
by Tripon on Sep 26, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew is 6th in WAR among NL SS this year. He was 9th last year. A full win behind Escobar, for instance, both years.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
war doesnt mean anything to me personally
because i dont trust uzr and uzr adds so much points for war for each player…
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
niceness
for once fox lightens up and shows sox vs yankees in cali rather than cubs vs giants….
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 26, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Martin / Eovaldi Question
This is just a teaser of information I got the other day from Hugh who covers the Loons for the Saginaw News in Michigan.
Ethan Martin / Nathan Eovaldi – they performed as a tag team most of the 2nd half and the Dodgers never took the gloves off of them. Did you ever hear the plan on why they were limited so much? Who was more impressive? Best pitch? What do they need to work on?
They were on strict pitch limits, which taxed the Great Lakes bullpen every time they started. And when they started back-to-back, the bullpen was a disaster. Once they became a tag team and went 4 or 5 innings each, they were able to prepare as if they were starting, get their innings in and even save the bullpen. Both are very young and have had injuries, so the Dodgers were very careful. Both throw extremely hard, so their challenge is to develop their off-speed pitches and control. They also have to improve their consistency. Both had some absolutely dominating outings, then would follow with a blowout. It was maddening, but not necessarily surprising for young pitchers. Eovaldi, who had Tommy John surgery, was the more impressive of the two, but they are very similar pitchers. Martin struck out more, but also walked more. Because they are so young, they may start at Great Lakes again with a ticket ready to move up if they show anything. They have the arms to be successful, but they’re also so young it’s hard to project. Both need to work on their control.
The rest of the interview will be incorporated into my Loon Review.
For the record I expect to see Gordan number two , with Russell, Martin, Eovaldi all with an outside chance of making the list but I’m not holding my breath.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Because they are so young, they may start at Great Lakes again with a ticket ready to move up if they show anything.
The more I think about it, the more I think he’s likely right about this.
by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked a Pirates beat guy what the chances they would get the game in
@RobBiertempfel: @truebluela Pretty good, if front coming from south moves out quickly. Otherwise, it will be day-night DH tomorrow.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 3:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This pic is from 6:09 PM, from The Weather Channel
weather.com
Looks ok once the front passes.

by David Young on Sep 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Andy Masur of the Padres broadcast team
Cesar Ramos will make his first ML start Tuesday against the Dodgers
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2009 3:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Somebody sent me this list:
http://thedugoutdoctors.com/2009/09/current-mlb-players-to-build-a-team-around/
What does TBLA think?
Outside of the obligatory “Where are Kemp and Kershaw?” who else do you feel the list is missing.
I honestly think Mauer over Yadier is one of my biggest gripes, outside of the above two. As well, his pitching selection is terrible. No way I’d go with Halladay and CC above some of the guys he listed below, let alone younger guys that are pitching as well (if not better) such as Kershaw, Jurjjens and Jon Lester.
by Talka1ot on Sep 26, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And by it being one of my biggest gripes, I mean that
I am annoyed Mauer was not placed above Molina.
by Talka1ot on Sep 26, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JACOBY ELLsBURY? as centerfieldeR?!
i can think of 15 better center fielders to start a team with then jacoby ellsbury what a freaking joke
and your building you team… dont you want a closer who is 25 and strikes out 14 batters per 9 innings then jonathon papelbon?! jonathon broxton doesnt even get an honarable mention??
and joe mauer…
those are the only bad ones.
by matthewmafa on Sep 26, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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