Dodgers Lose To "The Best, Around"
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
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On a day the Dodgers looked to clinch the National League West, Andy LaRoche had the greatest game of his career, with two home runs, two doubles, a single, four runs, and six RBI. Delwyn Young added a double and a walk, but alas both men play for the Pirates now, leading to a 11-1 drubbing by Pittsburgh, delaying the division celebration by another day.
A Chin-Lung Hu sacrifice fly following an Orlando Hudson triple in the ninth inning prevented a shutout, so at least we have that going for us.
LaRoche was a triple shy of the cycle when he laced a double to center in the sixth inning. He made a wide turn at second, but thought better of it, even though it was 8-0 at the time. Still, 13 total bases is nothing to sneeze at. The last player to amass 13 total bases against the Dodgers was Todd Helton at Coors Field on May 29, 2003.
Hiroki Kuroda took the loss, giving up seven runs, but five four of those were unearned, all in the second inning. The last Dodger to give up five unearned runs was Derek Lowe on June 16, 2005. Apparently, one of the runs in that second inning has become earned.
After the Dodger bench was emptied, Juan Castro finished up the game in left field, just the second time in his career he has played the position. He played one inning against the Astros on June 23, 1996, back in his first stint with the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are still going to win the division, some time this week, I'm almost sure of it! They also still have a good lead in the race for best record in the National League. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least slightly worried.
It will be a long and unhappy plane trip to San Diego for the Dodgers. But there is still plenty of baseball to be played, both this week and beyond.
Chad Billingsley starts division clinching attempt number three tomorrow night at Petco Park, against Cesar Ramos, making his first major league start.
WP - Zach Duke (11-15): 8.2 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 6 strikeouts
LP - Hiroki Kuroda (8-7): 4 IP, 8 hits, 7 runs (3 earned), 2 walks, 3 strikeouts
In case you were wondering about the title, Andy LaRoche used to come to bat at Dodger Stadium with this song as his AB music:
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I still want Andy to do well
Or else I can’t trust minor league performance.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 28, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
nice to see him with such a great game, to bad it came against us.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be suprised if it only happens against us.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safe to say
he will never have a game like that again. No knock against him but that was a game for the ages.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds on Blake DeWitt jumping Mark Loretta for a post season spot?
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
zero or Joe would be playing DeWitt right now
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torre and the staff can't think Loretta is the answer for a back up 3rd baseman though.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was all year before Belliard
showed up, what would have changed in his mind?
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has better options now though.
Torre doesn’t have to care about getting DeWitt development time in the minors.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, again, to Phil’s point, if DeWitt has leapfrogged Loretta, he would have started today.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily against a lefty; Joe is pretty big on the L/R matchups.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has
Minky and Thome to come off the bench against RHP. If he carries DeWitt instead of Loretta that would leave only Belliard, Ausmus, and Castro as your RH bench players. Do you really think he’s going to play that card?
I mean I agree with you, I’d have carried a strong hitting RH hitting outfielder rather then Loretta but I don’t see Joe doing it.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chances of the NL West still being at stake next weekend vs. Colorado?
by silverwidow on Sep 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No?
Why not….They have the pitching matchup edge in all three games, and it’s at Coors. Other than the Padres (and everyone is losing to them), Colorado has been nails at home this month
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They won't win all three
guaranteed.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 28, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, well - here's a question
is the equipment manager responsible for packing up the champaign and getting it to San Diego now?
or do they just throw it out?
by shooterm1 on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zero
but I think the Wild Card could very well be in play
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we go extreme and say the Rockies have an 80% chance to win each game vs. Milwaukee, and say the Dodgers only have a 20% chance to win each game in San Diego, the chances of the NL West still not being decided by Friday are about 2%.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Math fail
If that were the case, the chances are 33%.
But if we go more reasonable and say the Rox have a 60% chance to win each game plus the Dodgers a 40% chance of winning each game, the odds of it not being clinched by Friday are about 8%
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers will be playing extremely tight in SD, I guarantee. They know they can’t rely on Colorado to lose.
by silverwidow on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tighter then the Rockies?
who are really in a must win situation.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is all bets are off if we get to Friday without an answer. At that point Colorado will have ALL of the momentum.
by silverwidow on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies have never been able to win a series against the Dodgers.
This year.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't possibly be even the slightest bit worried about the Division
You are just making stuff up to make it more interesting. No team in history has ever lost six games in a row and had the team chasing it win six games in a row when three of those games are on the road against the team they are chasing.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
no way the dodgers will loose this division…
none at all… not even .00000000000000000000000001
our magic number is 1.. you really think we wont win 1 game or the rockies wont loose 1… if that even happens were we loose out and colorado wins out, we do9nt even deserve to be in the playoffs…
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers just need to lose two against a hot Padre team
while the Rockies win three game they are favored in. Then it’s all up to that series. Unlikely, yeah. But possible.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep the faith
but I’d more worried about even making the playoffs then hoping you win the Division. We are in no matter what happens.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree
See below…I’m mostly being playful with the division talk since the fact it isn’t over even now mildly amuses me. I’m terrified of the choke being on us, but confident it won’t be
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad Pennington out for the season with an injured shoulder.
The Jets come out ahead again!
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Again?
The last time they came out a head was 1969.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They took a lot of flak for cutting Pennington.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Pennington was an oft injured QB with a weak arm, and low ability to scramble.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And proceeded to lead the Dolphins to the playoffs
whilst Brett Farve did his thing for the Jets and they missed the playoffs.
The fact that the Jets got lucky and were able to draft Sanchez has little to do with their decision to cut Pennington, that decision was made the prior year.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then the Dolphins fell in love, and signed Pennington to a 2 year extension.
It’d be like the Dodgers signing Belliard to a 3 year/15 million deal just because he played well for us for a month.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They took the flak for cutting Pennington…LAST year.
Again, that has nothing to do with this year.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennington getting hurt in 2009 does nothing to change the fact that he played in the playoffs as the Jets watched, in 2008.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was the reason they were in the playoffs
the difference between Favre and Pennington or the quality of the 39 other players?
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it was the schedule :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying the Jets wouldn't still make the playoffs with Pennington?
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They might have. But the point is a 2009 injury has nothing to do with 2008
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus Favre sucked after he got hurt.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think there is any way farve will
make it through a 16 game season this year plus the playoffs..
his arm will be dead by then
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beats me, football is too much of a team sport to really isolate individual contributions. Farve was a trainwreck in NY and Chad was a nice surprise in Miami. With the margin for error so small in the NFL (it couldn’t have been more than a game separating those 2 teams) you could probably make compelling arguments either way.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To was a Bleak Day for Dodger Baseball
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
laroche...
this was defintly his best game ever…
i really doubt that he ever even had a game this good in the minor leagues…
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The BA chat
one question is being answered every five minutes.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
any questions on dodger prospects..?
i always ask questions on them, but they never get answered…
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked about six questions
the first one they answered was from me. They actually took a Blake Smith question but it was not from me and it was not encouraging.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
do you know if songco was considered for the top 20 like smith waS?
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked but it has to be answered.
I asked about Cavazos-Galvez, Sands, and Songco. Plus Gould and Webster. He answered my question about Erickson.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There isn’t much worse than an early game loss, followed by 30 hours of off time until the next game.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the video showing up above for anyone?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember the DT guy
who lost to Ralphie for the right to play the Karate Kid?
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suffering Bruin! I miss that guy.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the bright side is that Vin Scully gets to call the division clinching game now.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you can lose three games in Pittsburgh
hopefully you can lose two games against San Diego, who has managed a .500 or better week for five consecutive weeks and has a winning home record. Then maybe this weekend would mean something, even if it’s just for one game
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Brewers are just as likely to sweep the Rockies.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an absolutely ridiculous notion.
Colorado will be favored in all three games
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, it only takes one to break up a sweep
but it takes three to complete a sweep. I’m not saying Colorado will sweep, but it’s utterly ridiculous to ascertain that the Brewers overcoming the underdog role in all three games would be just as likely to sweep Colorado on the road as the Rockies are to sweep a series at home they desperately need.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was saying that LAD being swept in SD was as likely as Colorado being swept at home. Sure Colorado is good at home and all that, but Milwuakee > San Diego and frankly the Dodgers > Colorado.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that makes more sense
But I still disagree greatly. San Diego is a much better team in the last five weeks (just about keeping pace with COL and LAD), and they only need to win two home games to get a sweep. That’s a lot easier than three road games, almost regardless of the teams. Don’t underestimate a “bad” team with a decent home record. Look at Pittsburgh.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but coming to San Diego
is like coming home for us. You may be favored in all three Brewer games but the odds are still high that they can win one game.
Besides I’d rather we win the Division on Friday anyway, but beating the team chasing us. Plus it may be the only time in my lifetime I’ll be in a clubhouse after they have clinched something.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooooh
Now you’re rubbing his nose in the “Dodger bloggers treated as press” card! (Mixed metaphor.)
JK, Poseidon’s Fist – you’re ok in my book.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get sucked in with his friendly demeanor
he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to us for some ulterior motive that only people who live in the mountains can fathom.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I got that reference
I almost got warned at MCC for suggesting TBLA posters are far more welcoming and fair
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair no
Friendlier, Smarter, and Better Looking Yes.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 28, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when people give me far more credit than I deserve
It must be what it feels like to play for a big-market team :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you make the trip to Sunday’s game at Dodger Stadium, its fan appreciation day, and everyone in attendance gets a free yacht.
Well, another yacht. But still, a yacht.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do I have to stay past the sixth inning?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should read:
CAN I stay past the sixth inning?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no.
I am as tired of that schtick as you are bagging on Coors being a total home run launching pad.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you are
Honestly, I’ve never been to Dodger Stadium. I can’t attest to anything personally. I just hear it all the time when Dodger fans are mentioned nationally. I had to try it on.
I feel….dirty.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I see people leave early at just about every game I see on TV, no matter what ballpark it is. I thnk there is more truth to the “Dodger fans arrive late” stereotype. The traffic nightmare really plays into that.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I arrived to Friday's game at Coors in the 5th inning
Due to traffic. That and not realizing there were fireworks=early start time. It happens sometimes.
To be honest, in all irony, Dodger fans have been the most agreeable and friendly I’ve met of any team, right up there with the Cardinals. At games, Spring Training, here.
It has really cramped my Dodger hating style
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you compare us to Cardinals fans???? Banned!!!
:)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just my experience
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying nice things about Dodgers fan?!
I’m starting an internet petition to get you banned from the PurpleRow!
;-)
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Sep 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't help it
I can’t lie. My experience may not be indicative of the whole, but it is what it is. A met a nice young couple at a game on Kershaw’s 21st birthday in March. They invited me out with them for the night in Scottsdale. Okay, so that sounds creepy, but they were nice.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should do a SBNation get together in spring training 2010
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not mind this
However, I graduated this May, so the built-in Spring Break time frame no longer suffices. I just started a new job and may accrue vacation time by then, but I won’t know for a few months.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
which would consist of more than just me randomly running into Jim McLennan of AZSnakePit at a Dodger game.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… and taking “squinting in the sunshine” photos, IIRC.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't go, eh?
You never know how that might have turned out.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… as you are hearing folk like me bagging …
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a witch!
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Sep 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not float
and I am made of flesh I assure you
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love a press pass
Unfortunately, we’re only just starting to portray the legitimacy of Purple Row to the front office. We only recently scored our first exclusive interview with a FO type. I’m very jealous of this aspect
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think TBLA has had an exclusive interview yet.
The Dodger FO and publicity arm does deserve a lot of credit for thinking pretty progressively about bloggers and arranging a way for them to have press pass privilege.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric did meet with Ned this Spring Training
but he can’t talke about it:)
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t underestimate a "bad" team with a decent home record.
Don’t worry, Fisty. It’s really not necessary for you to come in here in post 30 comments after today’s game to remind us not to underestimate the Rockies. That is the bad team you are referring to, right?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Sep 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
I’m not sure any of my comments reflect not to underestimate the Rockies. I gave up on the division over a week ago.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does being favored have anything to do with it?
What happens in Coors and San Diego is moot, you won’t be sweeping the Dodgers at home in games that mean something. You aren’t that good.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that last statement completely.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if we were finishing up in Coors, I'd be very nervous.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m mildly disgruntled that Hurdle used up 6 of our head-to-head home games
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO you're realling giving
Tracy that much credit? Or I guess Hurdle that much blame?
by LA Taco on Sep 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Hurdle that much blame
The team obviously had so much more talent than when they were 18-28. Jim Tracy most has just managed to stay out of their way and let them compete.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it helps to have Carlos Gonzalez playing
and I don’t think he’d have been very helpful earlier in the year.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true
but Hurdle also got two months of All-Star Brad Hawpe, who looks like he should be on the bench behind Smith, Dex and CarGo.
also, Gonzalez was looking absolutely terrible for the first 6 weeks he was with the club
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luckily we have an easy schedule to end it after San Diego :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There has to be some regression to the mean
The Dodger/Rockie games have predominantly been close and hard fought since Hurdle was fired.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thougth you guys were regressing to the mean
now that you know Jim Tracy is not a magician.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm probably not the one to talk to about that
because I never thought Tracy was a magician or that the entire run was completely sustainable. So yes, there is some regression. But frankly, not much.
With a winning week, Colorado will have a 20-win month. They only won 20 once before, in June, part of that ridiculous streak. So if that’s regression to the mean, I like the mean. :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Rockies will rue the day
that Jim Tracy made this run and they gave him an extended contract. Then again with talent like Gonzalez/Fowler/Tulo you might be able to overcome Jim Tracy as your manager.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will it be like the Dodgers extending Colletti because of his 3 playoffs in 4 years run? :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't made any really stupid moves
until the last week or so. But you have to remember perspective. Rockies fans had something to complain about daily with Clint Hurdle. If Jim Tracy managed at his worst every day, we might “rue the day,” but otherwise, the “could-be worse/Hurdle” angle could keep him in favor for a good long while.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. But all if all we need is one win, I feel totally confident that we will get it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree
If by some crazy chance Friday’s game means something for the division, I’d be elated by that in itself. That was pretty much my only hope from all those fearless/silly predictions that the division was over 3 months ago. :) Just make that last weekend count. I have zero faith that Colorado can sweep at Dodgertown
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with Phil on this one. I’m suprised your even hoping/dreaming of winning the divison when all of a sudden your iron clad wild card lead is in jeopardy.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be clear, I understand the division is a total pipe dream
I just find it mildly amusing that it’s still in the discussion in the last six days of the season.
If I were at the Talking Chop, I’d be discussing the Wild Card more, but since TBLA doesn’t pertain to the Wild Card, that’s not the subject I am discussing. But for the record, we have several Row members ready to jump out windows, and I am indeed a bit nervous going forth.
But basically, if we go 3-3, Atlanta must go 6-1. I’m pretty sure Atlanta will lose at least one to the Marlins or Nats and that we can win the series against Milwaukee, meaning Colorado would need just one in LA at most
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey fist a question for you
is jimenez the guy you are sending for game 1?
by hirambocachica on Sep 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For which game?
Tomorrow? Friday? NLDS? Potential play-in game?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one can answer that
depends on who they need to use this weekend to even get into the playoffs.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not like they have a playoff spot
sewn up and can just set up the rotation for the playoffs like some teams in Blue do.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can't pitch him twice this weekend
He’s already pitching on Friday. There’s nothing more they can finagle with him.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monday Playoff Game with the Braves:)
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's absolutely possible
but he would be going on three days rest. I’m not sure they would want to do that. Hammel and Cook would be the next two starters slots up. Not very exciting, but they are better than Josh Fogg, who pitched in the play-in game in 07
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am reminded of ...
the 1980 play-in game where the Dodgers started Dave Goltz. Yuck.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Provided there is no play-in game
Definitely Jimenez. He would be going on 5 days rest after pitching Friday and is by far and away the strongest/most consistent starter.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To add
Some have advocated that Jason Hammel slot for Game 2, as he has been a far better away pitcher than home pitcher. I might be comfortable with that if they win game 1, but I’m not sure otherwise. He’s quite underrated this season.
Some wonder if Jorge de la Rosa should be in the rotation, but that’s bunk. The guy should be the #2 starter. Jason Marquis has struggled greatly and has two starts to audition for the playoff rotation. Cook was terrible, then hurt, but has a chance to join the rotation with another splendid start and more Marquis chokejobs
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and ignore everything i said which i'm sure you already did.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 90% sure Ubaldo wouldn't pitch the play-in game if there was one
so that means 98% sure he’ll pitch NLDS Game 1 if the Rox get in
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a nice post prepared for yesterday, too, with the “It’s Over” theme. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's gonna mean a lot anyway!
we need home field advantage, remember? (except for Loney, of course)
by sarcastro9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever happens from this point forward
this series with the Pirates will be referenced for years and years to come. Every time a Dodger fan gets cocky about anything, someone will inevitably say something like, "Well, remember how back in ’09 when we “knew” the division was ours because we had 4 games against the awful Pirates…"
Just think- if Andy made that catch in game 2 in foul territory, they probably would have swepted!
Hope those guys find something to get themselves right it in the next 36 hours. For their sakes, I’m glad neither Pinella nor Ozzie are managing this team.
by sarcastro9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that
unless the Dodgers do the unthinkable and lose every game while the Rockies win every game. As long as the Dodgers win the division, this will be quickly forgotten.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing we will remember about this series
is that Andy LaRoche had a game for the ages.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
I think we’ll remember 9th inning of game 3 for a while
by sarcastro9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The clubhouse manager will forever at least
Poor guy
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened in the 9th inning?
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday's game he means
the blown save
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitch Poole and his crew had to remove Vizqueen from the locker room in about 35 seconds
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vizqueen, for some reason, sounds like a website that would be blocked by work’s firewall.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely, we will four years from now look back and say “remember how bad the Dodgers played during the final two weeks, yet went on to win the World Series” when we try to use yet another example to refute desecrator09’s momentun theory :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
well, one way or another, we’ll remember it for SOMETHING. Hopefully, as an afterthought, or a very unexpected bump in the road. :)
Still, you have to admit- it was quite a shocker.
by sarcastro9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like very much for Billingsley and his “awful” command to win the division clinching game tomorrow night.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or with six scoreless innings
followed by Kuo/Belisario/Broxton – I was not happy with Kuo’s last appearance.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Kuo got a hold that game!
JK, of course, Kuo was a bit wild Saturday.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll go all July 3rd on the Padres again
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean July 5, with a better ending :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something or did our 37 year old left fielder
miss the last three games of the series?
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He played Saturday? I must have missed it
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got on base all 5 times! In fact, with his IBB Sunday he has a 6-PA streak of reaching base heading into SD
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He deserved two games off then
In fact I’d rest him all week so he’s fresh for Friday
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only game I saw this weekend
was the 9th inning of the Sunday game.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was so comical
I brushed it off like water from a dead Ducks back after being run over by the hype machine.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was on phone only (no audio/video) so I was staring at my phone for a while much like Clark Griswold when he opened his bonus check only to find a subscription to the jelly of the month club.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We saw Sat's game in a cantina, sipping margaritas, so that was good.
I saw the first and last two innings on Sunday, running some errands in between. My wife and I were flabbergasted at the ending.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny PHed yesterday and walked
I was surprised he was left in to run though. Hu or Repko could have run for him; not like he was staying in.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JB's road/day splits have become surreal
5.81 road era, 4.50 day era
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6370
must be the worst current closer in mlb in terms of the those stats and possibly the best night/home closer at the same time.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I assume that by "current closer" you are excluding Brad Lidge?
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes you can
I think Charlie is done with him
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are giving small sample sizes a whole lot of credit.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
31/74 IP are on the road
31 IP isn’t microscopic for a closer
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should write a "Broxton is not our guy" post
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we've already had that post
but “possibly not our guy on the road, especially in the day” just doesn’t have a catchy ring to it
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it’s silly. That reminds me on the scene in Mr. Baseball where the main character boasts that he has the highest batting average of players in the month of August during day games.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is about 40% of his output this year
more remarkable is the fact that he has give up only 3 runs (2 earned) in the other 60%
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For one thing, you have to research if this really is out of line.
Why Broxton is giving up runs on the road(road BABIP is .347), explain why errors made on the field were recorded as hits, and his various injuries he has.
Broxton has a career .238/.320’/.384 in 596 PAs,
like I said, 31 innings is freaking small sample size.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, though it constitutes more appearances
than a healthy starter gets in a typical season
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
6.0IP>>>>>1.0IP
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless you're bills
in which case is 4.2 or the such
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not if you've seen him pitch
He is either on it (most of the time) or seems to struggle with control (a minority of the time) and then he has given up a few walks, unlucky hits, and a few hits. Joe has had tremendous patience with him allowing him to really hang himself when he’s been off.
The fact that those few bad outings have skewed his numbers altogether will only be compounded when you look at whatever unfortunate time of day/place it occurred. The fact that his numbers are generally awesome indicate how few and far between those bad outings have been.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i made the same point earlier about good JB vs bad JB
but willl joe think twice about him closing on the road vs phil or slc (or nyy/bos), especially in a day game?
will he pull him if he looks to be blowing a significant lead in such a context?
this is where the rubber hits the road.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there would be an irony
if the dodgers blew it against the cards because they were too wedded to a concept formalized by Tony L
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen Broxton's against the Cards?
2009: .176/.286/.176
career: .188/.276/.188
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, not very often
but JB only seems to show up when we have the lead in the final inning or two. funny how that works.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't the closer until late last season.
So the bulk of his career work was made as a set up man.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and people give ME grief for a small sample size
but you have a good point – we should remember his blown save in late July, speaking of his habit of losing on the road.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was my reaction
when he blew that 1-0 game at busch… and got his first loss of the season here against the cards a month later… what were you saying about JB vs the cards again?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That the Cards don't hit Broxton hard?
Or at all? Never in his career as a player in MLB? Have you seen the numbers that Albert Pujols put up against JB? Or any of the rest of the Cards?
Sure, flukes happens, but to think that Broxton can’t pitch against the Cards is just odd.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him get a walk and lazily saunter to third from first
and win the game because JB couldn’t be bothered to check a runner.
the record shows that JB blew a save that would have given us a very rare win at Busch in June, and that he blew the rubber game here. of course pujols is a monster – but the whole reason the average TBLA worships JB is because he is the embodiment of the Bill James “relief ace”.
anyways that wasn’t my point – I was just noting that it would be ironic if our attachment to a dogma which was created by Tony L only twenty years ago kept JB on the mound despite signs of a struggle and helped give Tony yet another pennant.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lazily saunter to 3rd?
The reason he got to 3rd because Martin threw a ball in a dirt that bounced into the outfield, and Hudson couldn’t block it.
Come on man, at least remember the game correctly.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you remember him checking AP once?
it was a 3-0 pitch, I remember it well.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, you explain to me how a baseball player can 'lazily suanter to 3rd from first base.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
easily
when the pitcher can’t be bothered with his presence, and this oblivious approach encourages bad defense. kind of like yesterday.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not describing the situation.
Pujols doesn’t make it 3rd if Martin doesn’t make the throw. If Hudson makes the catch. If Ethier or Kemp was backing the play up.
Next are you going to complain why Broxton doesn’t do Wii fit like Heath Bell does?
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
i think that was his only unearned run at home all year actually. is there a pickoff sim for the wii? that might help.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa. Yesterday?
The runners were never going yesterday.
Are you somehow going to blame Broxton for Furcal kicking and throwing balls all over the place. That is patently absurd. Maybe you should give up the drinking.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he at least check
the army he put on base once or twice?
i confess, i did miss the game, though it sounded iike something i saw many times during the ‘toe month’.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say since it only takes a glance that is hard to see on TV
Didn’t throw over, but he didn’t have to, because he got ahead to every batter while there were open bases, taking the Pirates out of running counts. The botched DP was first pitch, not hit-and-run. Only the last batter aaw a 1-0 count.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaRoche’s weak grounder that Furcal threw away was on 0-2 pitch.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
0.00
If Broxton only pitched at Dolphin Stadium, Great American, Minute Maid Park, Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, U.S. Cellular Field, and Wrigley Field his ERA would be 0.00.
Should we only pitch him there?
Should we never let him pitch at PNC Park because he has a 20.25 ERA there?
Big Jon is the closer, period.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that all stats can be cherrypicked
but the road/home split is one of the first that comes up in any split chart for a reason.
should we totally disregard righty/lefty splits, too?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
L/R splits are useful because they hold true over time for the vast, vast majority of players. The number of players that are consistently “backward” is very small.
Road/home splits are all over the place.
Lots of stats come up in most splits charts. The reason: they are easily figured, not necessarily because they are meaningful.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see pitching splits vs.:
Veteran at bats
Hitters that don’t suck
Guys whose career is over
guys who last name ends in “cia” or “as”
guys under 150 lbs
guys over 250 lbs
Just to make it interesting
by Dodger Dude on Sep 28, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about
vs guys under 5’10", older than 38 and over 200 lbs in the postseason?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DuranLA#USC RB Stafon Johnson rushed to hospital after dropping a weight on his throat. ESPN @shelleysmith reporting. Listen to @710ESPN12 minutes ago from twidroid
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The RB position just became less cluttered!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad news
but more number 4 joe mcknight which is a big time plus!
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whodathunk
UCLA may actually win the PAC-10
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't they still have to play somebody in the Pac 10?
I think Stanford, Cal, USC, and Oregon will all have something to say.
by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would have that the idea was ridiculous too
unti cal totally imploded. the two top opening seeds now look like total dogpoo.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone plz tell me wtf happened today???
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
losing 3 of 4 to the pirates=WOAT
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 28, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First ever Anthony LaPaglia reference on True Blue LA!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
All I noticed were the slinky ladies in their cocktail dresses. But to each their own.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roselyn Sanchez is the one on the left, correct?
There was a series of stills from some movie called “Boat Trip”, but they are perhaps NSFW, although non-nude. You can click here if you want to see it.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha no....WOAT means worst of all time....
just a joke
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True Blue LA
A place to discuss Andy Laroche and the Dodgers.
by StolenMonkey86 on Sep 28, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that and the hidden magnetic powers under chavez ravine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line
…and their intersection with the astrological charts of loney and broxton
by stillnotah8er on Sep 28, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From rotoworld.com
Hiroki Kuroda-S- Dodgers Sep. 28 – 3:36 pm et
Hiroki Kuroda was tagged for seven runs — three earned — in four innings by the Pirates on Monday.
Kuroda had been 5-1 with a 2.73 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP in 10 starts since the break. The Dodgers better hope he’s not wearing down again so close to playoff time. It’d be no fault of there’s if he did, though: he’s been babied throughout and his high pitch count game for the year is 103.
Apparently somebody at Rotoworld doesn’t believe that a CONCUSSION AND AN OBLIQUE STRAIN WOULD CAUSE A TEAM TO BE CAUTIOUS.
by Tripon on Sep 28, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Kuroda has thrown 1001 less pitches than last season, thanks to 11 less appearances. He also made two quite good starts in the playoffs last year. Last Sept. he had a 2.96 ERA, although that was 3 nice starts with 2 runs total, 1 start of 5+IP, 10H, 4R, and 1 starts of 4IP, 8H, 3R. I’m not really worried about Kuroda.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
The journalism world really baffles me. I mean, it’s getting to the point where these “journalists” say shit they never research to back up their claims.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 28, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also from rotoworld.com
[Andy] LaRoche went 10-for-18 with three homers and four doubles in the series to raise his OPS from 696 to 736.
Gee, thanks Andy.
by David Young on Sep 28, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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