Dodgers Hope For Success The Fourth Time Around
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
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It was then that I got up to leave
But she said, "Don't forget,
Everybody must give something back
For something they get."-Bob Dylan, 4th Time Around
After giving something back for three days, the Dodgers look to get something tonight. The Dodgers entered play Sunday with a magic number of one to clinch the National League West. Three days later, the magic number is still one. The Dodgers champagne and Visqueen party is tentatively scheduled again for tonight, as the Dodgers close out their road schedule with a final game in San Diego.
Jon Garland takes the hill tonight, making his sixth start as a Dodger. He has pitched well so far, with a 1.91 ERA, although his peripherals show a 3.55 FIP and 3.93 x-FIP since joining Los Angeles -- good, but not 1.91 ERA good. Part of the reason Garland has been so effective recently -- he has pitched six innings in 21 of 22 starts since the start of June -- is an increase in his strikeout rate. Before the All-Star break, Garland struck out a paltry 3.62 batters per nine innings, but since the midsummer classic he has upped that to 6.01 punchouts per nine. That is quite an increase for someone who hasn't struck out higher than 4.8 batters per nine innings since 2003.
Clayton Richard, a man who seems like he was named backwards, pitches for the Padres tonight. Richard, acquired from the White Sox in the Jake Peavy trade, is 4-2 with a 4.58 ERA, 4.77 FIP, and 4.60 x-FIP since joining the Padres. However, he has really taken a liking to his new home park. In five starts at Petco Park, Richard has a 2.48 ERA, and the Padres have won all five games.
With the left-handed Richard throwing tonight, it might not be a bad idea to sit Andre Ethier, who is in the midst of a one-for-28 slump. Ethier still has the weird split this season in that he has just seven singles in 81 at-bats against southpaws on the road, hitting .086/.196/.086 against them. Part of that is bad luck -- he has a ridiculously low .121 batting average on balls in play -- but a day off might serve him well.
Speaking a time off helping a player: Since rejoining the lineup on September 25, Orlando Hudson has played five complete games and is hitting .333/.556/.750 with six walks and two triples. Maybe that rest did him some good. He has triples in consecutive games for the second time this season. Since moving to Los Angeles, only Pedro Guerrero had a longer streak, with three straight in July 1983.
The Padres are 12 games over .500 since July 27, and their 35-23 record over that time is tied with the Rockies for tops in the division. Of course, they have also only outscored their opponents by 15 runs in that span, compared to the +63 run differential for the 31-28 Dodgers.
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Other games of Dodger interest:
The Phillies host the Astros, with a magic number of one to clinch the NL East over the Braves. Pedro Martinez opposes Brian Moehler in that game. The Dodgers hold a 1½-game lead over the Phillies in the race for home field advantage in the playoffs. The Dodgers magic number in this regard is three over the Phillies.
4:05pm - Astros at Phillies Gameday
The NL Central champion Cardinals are in Cincinnati to face the Reds, with John Smoltz facing the high straight leg kick of Bronson Arroyo. The Dodgers hold a 2½-game lead over the Cards in the race for home field advantage in the playoffs. The Dodgers magic number in this regard is also three over the Cardinals.
4:10pm - Cardinals at Reds Gameday
The Rockies host the Brewers at 5:40pm, a game that starts roughly 85 minutes before the Dodger game. Jason Hammel will face Milwaukee's Jeff Suppan. One Rockies loss or one Dodger win means a division crown for Los Angeles.
5:40pm - Brewers at Rockies Gameday
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Be sure to check out Xeifrank's simulation of tonight's game here.
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Game Time: 7:05pm
TV: Prime Ticket
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I will be attendance and cannot wait to get to the San Diego Litter Box tonight! Hopefully it will be a great time for all True Blue Dodger fans in attendance!!!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Sep 30, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nice link
pennebaker is still the king of music video
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The champagne is now flat
Hope the Dodgers realized they “blue” it by waiting so long. Maybe this last week in futility is a good excercise in understanding how to get a deal done, you don’t let something slip through your fingers at the last second. When you have a chance to go for the kill, you take it!
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they still haven't blown it at all
until they blow the HFA, which is all that’s on the table
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was joking about the champagne
They blew their fresh load of bubbly.
As for the HFA, it would be mighty sad to lose it now, in the last week.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really find the whole champagne ritual
to be more about repressed homoeroticism than anything else. real champs only drink the bubbly after the ring. it doesn’t mean much when you win a crappy division like the nl west or nl central in most of the past decade. if you have someone like a-rod on your team, going to the playoffs means less than nothing.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet...
MLB teams now celebrate making the playoffs, winning the division, winning the 1st round, winning pennant, and then finally the series, with each win increasing in celabratory fervor.
I will say though, winning the pennant is pretty special, that is part of baseball tradition and lore. It goes back more than a century. The NBA Western Conference Champions is nothing compared to the NL Pennant.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that's a longer story
the entire playoff structure there is a total joke which renders the regular season an extended preseason. also part of the joke is the fact that a 33-game winner can go in the east while a 40-game winner can stay home in the west. so, given the year, winning the west can be almost an automatic ring. but with LOTS of tv commercial $$$ between here and there….
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every geographic division in every sport
has the same problems, it is not just the NBA. If the Blue Jays didn’t play in the East do you think they would never have finished above 3rd every single year when you take into account the games they would be playing against lesser foes then the Yankee’s and Red Sox?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that mlb could be rebalanced
i think having 6 in the nlc (most of which are stuck in a deep funk) and 4 in the alw is stupid. but the nba is just bad, and the nhl’s ten-month (?!?) season is way beyond the pale. the hawks were one game away from knocking off the celtics last year. maybe fun to watch, but it makes everything before march a complete joke.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money Money Money
That could be “fixed” with some sort of salary cap. The reason the Jays, Rays, and Orioles can’t keep up with Boston and New York is purely money.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet
NBA has a salary cap and there is nearly no parity amongst champions.
MLB has no salary cap and there has been extraordinary parity the past 10 years.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof positive
You can’t compare sports. You can’t use the cap in the NFL to justify one in MLB and you can’t use the cap in the NBA to justify not having one in the MLB. Different regions show their fandom in different ways.
Though it may be blasphemy on this blog, I would consider LA to be an NBA town, one of the few around. Phoenix may be the only other. Boston is an MLB town, Pittsburgh and Dallas an NFL town, etc.
Question with that, which comes first, the hardcore fans or the championships. If the above mentioned teams don’t win games, do they lose luster to the other sport in town, or are they champions in their sport because they have a great fan base that supports them?
Obvious exceptions exist, you could consider Chi town a baseball city, and they have sucked forever.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure I’m catching your point. Would you agree Detroit is a hockey town? Despite that, their payroll is amongst the highest in MLB. .
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit is an anomoly
Their owner wants to win a ring, BAD. Did you read that SI article? He owns Little Ceasars, has a ton of dough, and wants to win, so he’ll flush it into his team.
Hell, he paid for advertising FOR the big auto makers, after they couldn’t pay him for the fountain spot.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I guess I’m not seeing why identifying cities as certain “sports towns” is an argument for imposing a salary cap in baseball.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically speaking
you’re right, LA and Phoenix are the only two cities in America where polls reveal that the NBA team has more people saying it’s their “favorite team”.
However LA is a massive market that consistently draws top crowds in every sport from Baseball to Soccer.
LA cannot accurately be labeled an NBA town, because it’s not a town. It’s a megalopolis. That loves the Lakers.
by LA Taco on Sep 30, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apples to Oranges
Both of us, I guess. Adding a salary cap takes a way a big, legitimate excuse. If the Jays are spending as much as the Yankees and still not winning their division once every few years, its probably their fault. If they are losing their superstar pitchers to the Yankees and free agency, then you can partly blame spending money.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and I remember the Yankees saying that once the details for the luxury tax were worked out. I remember Cashman’s quip of saying that, “well the excuses are over now. People will receive this money every year. They can either invest it in their team or pocket it, but whatever they do it’s not the Yankee’s fault.” Or something along those lines.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or they can torch it in failed real estate development
personally, i think sticking 20s in an empty pool and adding gas and a match sounds like more fun
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comments are getting more odder and odder
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you don't see the connection between RE
and sports ownership, then, sure that would seem odd
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Difference Between a Salary Cap and a Luxury Tax
is that exactly what it sounds like. The Luxury Tax is a way to get people to shut up.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a way to ensure that
clubs like oakland which would barely exist without the occasional nyy or bos series don’t just curl up and die
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’d like to lay out your “pro-salary cap” argument go ahead. Because I don’t get the distinction you just made.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Isn't the Right Place
and I don’t have the time or energy to get into a deep discussion. But here is where I see the problem with not having a salary cap….eventually teams just get priced out completely.
If Texiera makes $20 mil a year, then any guy at 1B with similar or better numbers has that to use in his negotiations whenever they may come up. So guys like Fielder, Howard, Gonzalez, Pujols etc. can say “He makes this much at those numbers, well look at my numbers and I want to make that much.”
That eliminates Fielder from the Brewers or Gonzalez from the Padres. If the Phils want to bring back Ryan Howard, then they have to think twice about who else they sign.
With the Yankees, because there is no salary cap, they can keep throwing out these insane contracts.
If that doesn’t make sense I apologize and maybe I can explain better some otehr time.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Said
I think this is the argument, plain and simple.
Way up somewhere there, the point was made that there is a salary cap in the NBA and yet still there wasn’t parity. My point was that you can’t compare sports, thats all.
Your point about Texiera is exactly right. I would be in favor of a salary cap for the players, the managers, the GMs, and how much a team can own. Then only the fans win, mwuhahahahah.
Okay that last part was a fantasy I often have, it will never happen, but one can dream.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don' Care How Much a Player Makes
If the Yankees want to pay A-Rod $95 million a year and the rest of the team $5 million a year, that’s fine. But if they are limited, they won’t be throwing out those crazy contracts.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's something I can get behind
let’s limit ownership to individuals with a net worth under 100 mil!
the cap is just an excuse to screw labor, always was, always is.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw labor
If by screw you mean multi-million dollar contracts per year, then yes, I suppose that screws labor.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can tell you're smart by the above posts
so you know that the average jock’s experience is FAR different.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/1/index.htm
and, yes, I’d rather see them make tens of millions than the owners. the fans pay to see them, not the owners, and a few million bucks over a whole lifetime isn’t as much as you might think.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Texiera makes $20 mil a year, then any guy at 1B with similar or better numbers has that to use in his negotiations whenever they may come up. So guys like Fielder, Howard, Gonzalez, Pujols etc. can say "He makes this much at those numbers, well look at my numbers and I want to make that much."
I don’t agree. Fielder, Howard, Gonzales and Pujols all have to get paid somewhere, and the Yankees already have Tex so it won’t be there. They can want to be paid as much as Tex; but as my boss used to say, it’s nice to want things.
Anyway, if you want to write up a fanpost (probably an offseason topic) when you have time, we can debate the merits then…
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it Won't be the Yanks
But it will be the Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, Angels, Tigers, or even the Dodgers. And those teams will overpay and sacrifice something else.
by bearface on Sep 30, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
As we learned recently, even HFA doesn’t guarantee much, we just want it as fans cause it means more potential games in our backyard.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want it
because i can’t go to a weekend game and have game 1 tix! but aside from that, no big whoop. the phils were actually better on the road for almost all of the season.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think they didn't try to go for the kill?
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do or do not, there is no try!!!
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They celebrate
because most of them know they won’t get to celebrate again. Last years celebration over the Cubs was kind of special but a week later it meant nothing.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
play for the angels
and you can celebrate it almost every year. and go home a week later almost every year as well.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange comment for a team who has actually won a World Championship in this decade.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, people on this blog seem to give luck a lot of weight
and what can be luckier than drawing the all-time anti-champ in the opposing LF?
but seriously – the key guys that won that ring are all long from the team, except Mike S himself. ancient history. the current lineup is good enough to make tens of millions playing ball, but total choketober material.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What can be luckier than being in a division with FOUR teams
and two of them the As and Seattle.
I like those odds.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 30, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what can be luckier
is facing a yankee team built around giambi and fonzi and then facing the twinkies in the alcs
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a time the Mariners won 113 games
You guys seem to be using the same argument against the Angels success that the media who you complain about use against Dodgers. You can’t make fun of the Angels playing in the AL West while defending the Dodgers playing in the NL West. Sure the West improved this year but for a while now the NL West has been the least impressive division in the NL.
Well you can, but it doesn’t seem very consistent.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not making fun of that quite so much
as making fun of the fact that their current lineup doesn’t have a prayer of getting past the alds despite whatever record they pull up with. obviously, the 2001 m’s had similar issues (as did the cubs last year).
anyhow, getting past the giants’ pitching this year is a nice victory. funny how we own lincecum and cain yet have streaks where we’re silenced by the kind of pitching we’ve seen in the past week.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't agree with that
I like the team.
Morales, Kendrick/Izzy, Aybar, Figgins, Abreu, Hunter, Rivera, with Vlady at DH. They will score some runs and since Jepsen stepped up the back of the bullpen is okay.
Lacky, Weaver, Santana, Kazmir
Not sure why you dissing them. They have a shot.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
kazmir was an inspired add
but i’m dissing them for the obvious reason that they demonstrably blow chunks in the postseason for quite a few years now.
VG = 1 RBI in an 80-AB streak. Is he trying to make A-rod look good?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guerrvl01.shtml?redir
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe swinging at bat pitches doesn't work well in the playoffs
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, to VG's credit
he was on-base a ton in that last series – the fact that 11 appearances on base led to 2 runs illustrates that his choketober mentoring in the previous years had really paid off
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOUR TEAMS!
And if one of them happens to be good you still get a shot at the wild card.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 30, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does having 4 teams in your division have to do with the Wild Card? In that case, you could say that it is easier to win the Wild Card in the AL since there are 2 fewer teams.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would guess that the average payroll you play against in the AL
is significantly higher, however
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your'e Right, They are even luckier!
They compete against 3 teams for the division and 9 for the wildcard vs. the Cubs who compete against 5 teams for the division and 11 for the wildcard.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 30, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton Richard, a man who seems like he was named backwards, pitches for the Padres tonight
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I have to take exception to this comment!
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was your brother thinking of you when he made that comment:)
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a man with 3 first names, I don’t take the subject lightly :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmation name?
John Philip Luke (after Cool Hand Luke) though my parents thought it was after some apostle.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Luke an apostle?
I thought he was just a Jesus blogger.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Rawhide from my Whine column. He makes a good point and something I need to remember when I get bumbed by the negativity. Making fun of your ugly sister is nothing like someone else making fun of her.
It seems healthy to get our frustrations out in this manner. I love it. I’ve no doubt that those who congregate here are devoted fans of this game and our beloved Dodgers. In the confines of True Blue LA the whine is appropriate. Of course, we have to keep that faith out on the streets or around the water cooler where we show our blue blood.
"About the only problem with success is that it does not teach you how to deal with failure." Source: The Artful Dodger (Tommy Lasorda) Tommy knew that a team must go "through" these times of failure to build up to success. In delving into all the possible reasons of "fail" and "let downs" of this team it strengthens and makes the next success so much better. So, here we go, buckle your seatbelts, keep your hands and feet inside the car and put your rally hat on. It’s going to be a wild ride! Go Dodgers!
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Proof that Scouts are Morons
The rotation is underwhelming enough that Vicente Padilla (who was released by Texas) “may be their best starter,” one scout said
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/09/30
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what a crock
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Sep 30, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or you can look at it as
we are so loaded with starting pitching that one of the best pitchers Padilla won’t even make the rotation.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 30, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the more they dis LA
the sweeter it will be when we win it all…
by LA Taco on Sep 30, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodger lineup - slumping Ethier dropped down but not out
Furcal SS
Hudson 2B
Ramirez LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Loretta 3B
Ethier RF
Martin C
Garland P
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not just sit Ethier and let him PH later
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the 8 hole is second cleanup, than this is second 3rd.. only instead of manny behind you it’s russ martin
by LA Taco on Sep 30, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great
loretta prepping for his scintillating post-season journey to glory
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is Joe Torre's love affair with Loreta...
all about? I don’t get it, what has this guy done?
Does Joe get guidance from his Bigelow green tea leaves?
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veteran Leadership and Moxie:)
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a major 3B issue
If Blake is hurt sometime during his long term deal, will Joe continue to play PVL retreads over a young player like DeWitt? I’m talking in 2010 and beyond.
by silverwidow on Sep 30, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think DeWitt is still valued, mostly by Torre. I’m not too worried about 2010; I think he will be on the team.
For 2009, I just don’t think he will be on the postseason roster, and Joe is getting ABs for guys that will be on the roster. Not that I agree with it, of course.
Earlier in the year, if Blake would have missed significant time, I think DeWitt would have been recalled and played a large portion of the time.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Realizes Loretta will be on the playoff roster) and starts yelling at screen)
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of names
I have an Aunt named Loretta, hence, Mark does play like my Aunt….
by RawhideBlue on Sep 30, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this would have been Belliard
And I still think if it comes down to Thome vs. Loretta, it will be Thome.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it comes down to that, I agree with you. And I would be happy and surprised. I just don’t think it will come down to that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the choice
thome is strictly verboten from a defensive role, isn’t he?
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There needs to come a time when Casey is phased out
Either by trade or a transition to Utility INF
by silverwidow on Sep 30, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if his health becomes a chronic issue, sure
bummer he was something of a late bloomer, he’s a joy to watch
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padres who get to watch the Dodgers clinch
starting variety…
Gwynn CF
Eckstein 2B
A.Gonzalez 1B
Headley LF
Venable RF
Kouzmanoff 3B
Hundley C
Cabrera SS
Richard P
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2 not 3
but speaking of gonzo, wonder if we’ll psuedo-IBB him again repeatedly
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still in shock
that tg jr hit one out of petco
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
It worked last night, sort of. His walks weren’t scoring much, while Bills was on.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a lot of stools in the Dodger lineup last night
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kemp Komp?
Per Beto Duran, a picture of The Bison shaking hands with Dave Winfield today:
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Winfield
Had some HRs taken away by the old Jack Murphy Stadium
by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he’s on the Tony Gwynn (Sr) diet.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he looks that bad
he looks big to be sure, but he still looks pretty strong and powerful. Not Tony Gwynn fat.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re prob right. Either way, TG was always one of my favorite players and Winfield wasn’t far behind.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was great and his much touted charity work actually is something to really admire.
My first ever glove was a Winfield outfielder’s mitt.
by LA Taco on Sep 30, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not pleased that Colletti might get a long term extension
I want a new vision.
by silverwidow on Sep 30, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Be careful what you wish for. Remember the good old days of Kevin Malone, Fred Claire, and Paul DePodesta.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't figure you would be pleased about this
I figure that means White and/or Ng is gone. So I expect you won’t be pleased if that happens either.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would assume Ng leaves
Logan probably enjoys scouting too much to quit.
by silverwidow on Sep 30, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is she going to go?
She is not going to break the glass ceiling? Do you mean you think she will leave baseball?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it ain't broke don't fix it
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Status quo is not an option
his staff will leave for oppurtunities for their own GM positions once they realize that won’t happen in LA.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Change for the sake of change is unwise
Staff eventually leaves every front office and every front office has to find replacements
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't that easy
not like they haven’t been involved in every GM opening already. Can they find a better gig then then one they currently have that is less then a GM title? I doubt it.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if those opportunities exist. Someone has to offer them a GM job, or an assistant GM job where they perceive the GM opening might come soon and be theirs. Do we know that such opportunities exist at the moment?
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I don't understand
is why everyone who wants Ned gone assumes Kim Ng or Logan White would be better at the job. Kim Ng seemed very intelligent but other then the fact she knows the rules of baseball inside and out I fail to see what attribute she brings that makes many think she’d be any better at the job then Ned. We have no idea what deals she has been in favor of and which ones she has not.
Logan White has proven to be an excellent scout but the skills of a scout and the skills of a GM are not the same cloth. It would be great if we had voting record to look at but we don’t. The only one we can be sure of is Ned because he has the final say on all deals and I doubt he’d do any deal he didn’t agree with by the time all the arguments had been heard.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Ng's value
I think what Ng does well is assign valuations to players. Essentially she is an appraiser of talent. I can’t think of anything more fundamental to the job description of a GM than that. Winning arbitration rulings isn’t just about knowing the rules, its using the data to identify (and argue) a player’s worth. When it comes to signing the appropriate FA’s, someone who is able to properly assign value to a player whilst being able to spot the overvalued and undervalued commodities in the marketplace would be a desirable candidate.
That’s my beat on Ng, but I could be wrong. As you say, its not like the Dodgers F.O is all that transparent.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what makes you think
she’s good at assigning valuations to players? Your just hoping because we have nothing to base that faith on.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was under the impression that she was the one who conducted the arbitration hearings and negotiations.
I may well be wrong. If I’m mistaken, then you’re right, I’ve got nothing.
I’m not hoping that is the case. Frankly, considering it looks like we’re getting Ned for another few years, I hope I’m wrong on this point.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you are right about the arbitration hearings
that is how she made her name but I don’t understand the correlation between actual evaluation and winning arbitration.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Arbitration hearings are about convincing the arbiter that you have made the more correct comparison to players with similar experience. That’s kind of apples-to-apples, while having to evaluate trade offs between cheap, young, but prehaps unpredictable young players and more expensive, older, but perhaps more like to provide a known level of performance veterans is kind of apples-to-oranges.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t want to dodge this question, because I would like to dive into it. But I’m heading out of the office. I’ll try to answer it tonight or tomorrow if you’re still interested in furthering this conversation….
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think she is in charge of arbitration hearings but aren’t all front offices trying to lower the players demands
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
by Sordid on Sep 30, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comment...
“Essentially she is an appraiser of talent. I can’t think of anything more fundamental to the job description of a GM than that”
Really? What about the ability to negotiate trades, sign deals, command respect among other GMs and agents.
Knowing the talent value is key, but if you can’t get your point across, it won’t matter.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning arbitration hearings indicates that she gets her point across just fine
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I don’t know much about her, is she well connected within MLB?
Maybe that doesn’t matter.
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 30, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before Ned, she worked for Brian Cashman in NY.
I imagine she’s got a pretty good network going on.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always held that against her
since a consider him a crappy GM.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a more fitting name for a GM in baseball, than Cashman with his particular team?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To an arbiter
Not sure that carries over to trying to close a deal with Theo Epstein or Mark Shapiro.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rate appraising talent higher than valuation for the role of GM, plus looking at the entire picture. We don’t know if she can do that at all. She’s interviewed for other GM positions, including this one, and didn’t get it. She obviously has some holes somewhere.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will leave that last sentence alone. Too easy.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Bill Singer would say that is a no-no :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Extra-nice
B-R actually lists “no-no” as a Bill Singer nickname!
He threw one for the Dodgers in 1970, IIRC.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw it in the Left Field Pavillion
Don Money should have had a hit but they ruled it an error.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
I’ve never seen a no-hitter.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't have final say
McParking does.
Ned seems to work well with him and actually convinces him to spend money sometimes. To me this has been Ned’s best attribute.
by Dodger Dude on Sep 30, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offense a no show?
It seems that the Dodgers, beginning with second half of the season, go through these stretches of games where there is no run production. Billingsley pitched a decent game although he walked too many, but the Dodgers should at least provide enough runs to make it a closer game than it was…
And is Bell really that good…
"Say 'Dodgers' and people know you're talking about baseball. Say 'Braves' and they ask, 'What reservation?' Say 'Reds' and they think of communism. Say 'Padres' and they look around for a priest."
-Tommy L.
by Pablojr818 on Sep 30, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right now
the way the Dodgers are swinging, or lack of, the bats a two-run lead seems like a 10 run lead.
"Say 'Dodgers' and people know you're talking about baseball. Say 'Braves' and they ask, 'What reservation?' Say 'Reds' and they think of communism. Say 'Padres' and they look around for a priest."
-Tommy L.
by Pablojr818 on Sep 30, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Before the All-Star break, Garland struck out a paltry 3.62 batters per nine innings, but since the midsummer classic he has upped that to 6.01 punchouts per nine.
That is more than usual, but it seems Garlands K/9 goes up in the second half every year from 2004 on:
Year, First half, Second half
2000, 6.8, 5.3
2001, 5.2, 4.4
2002, 4.4, 6.2
2003, 5.3, 4.8
2004, 4.4, 5.0
2005, 4.2, 5.3
2006, 4.5, 5.0
2007, 3.9, 4.6
2008, 3.8, 4.6
2009, 3.6, 6.0
Career, 4.3, 5.1
Stats from baseball-reference.com
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice research. Thanks for pulling that data.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA top midwest league prospects come out tomorrow
i cant wait to see where they slot ethan martin and if eovaldi or aaron miller make it..
by matthewmafa on Sep 30, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I expect Gordon to be number two
Miller and Martin to make it with Miller a head of Martin. Don’t expect to see Eovaldi on the list, BA will go with the Pedigree. Will the Co-MVP make the list? Will Delmonico?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing that makes me optimistic about Eovaldi
The mere fact that the Dodgers are handling him just like their #1 pick, Ethan Martin, tells me something about how the Dodgers view Eovaldi as a prospect. I know they probably still hold concerns about the TJ surgery that he had as a high-schooler, but I see this as the organization saying, “we know you have the stuff, you don’t have to prove that part to us”.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proving
Good point. I know Torre doesn’t have much to do with the lower minor league players at all, but one of the things that struck me about him is that he likes to use the concept of “proving” something…he has used that term repeatedly when discussing…
Broxton: never had to prove anything after the Cubs series
Bills: proved something with his NLDS start at Wrigley
Troncoso: never has to prove anything to me again, after the 4-inning save in Colorado
I’m sure there are more, but it seems like I have heard Torre use that “prove” concept quite a bit.
Incidentally, occasionally I like playing HORSE where you have to “prove” the shot that gets someone their final letter. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm as high as SilverWidow
but I don’t think he’ll get much traction from BA because of where he was drafted and the fact his stats just don’t impress yet. However he was one of the youngest pitcher in the league who had success so you never know.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
My optimism excludes the BA rankings.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will be interesting to find out
if the Scouts give him high marks.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure would like to hear DeJon Watson talk about him. :)
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eovaldi was solid
There are 14 teams in the midwest league, each having their own high pitching prospects. We weren’t the best pitching staff in the league and I feel like the ones above us (5 other teams) are going to get more publicity. I also think they’ll put at most the best two pitching prospects each team will have, ours being Miller and Martin.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 30, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like a said
i read somewhere that some guy name vitters was the # 1 and jaff decker of the padres # 2
dee gordon will be number 4 or 5
by hirambocachica on Sep 30, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I can see Decker being two. He had a heck of a year.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lookin' good
let’s go, jimmie kimmel lookalike!
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_09_30_slnmlb_cinmlb_1
i officially forgive your crushing of charlie for a hit here
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
especially nice to see smoltz
revert to dog poo
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston seems to be taking the Dodgers path to the playoffs
I wonder if the Beanfolk are as worried as Dodger fans?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of all the teams going to the playoffs
only the Yankee’s seem to be playing well.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw a few mintues of their game vs KC last night
They looked giddy with every play and seemed to laugh out loud with each play as they knew they would come through in the bottom of the ninth for another W.
My dislike of NYY continues and grows stronger each day.
by RawhideBlue on Sep 30, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually like swisher
he’s entertaining. but it is best just to think of it as one big setup for a-rod’s quest for the GIDP postseason crown.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Torre on the pregame
Blake and Belliard should both be ready by Friday (at least in theory). Both were able to take part in batting practice and team workouts today.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s been awhile since I’ve wrote “BEARD” in a game thread… Can’t say I don’t miss Casey’s D.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 30, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard not to think that the past week
has been a harsh lesson in ‘replacement value’
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming everyone is healthy then
what do you see Belliard’s role as in the playoffs?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Sep 30, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahead of Loretta on the RH PH list
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so barring injury, you don't forsee him making any starts
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Sep 30, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Belliard getting a start or two every four-five games or so.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think with Belli hitting so well though
that Blake or Hudson are on a shorter leash going in though?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Sep 30, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. Although I think Blake is more “Torre’s guy” now.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All-time postseason GIDP leaders
Bernie Williams 17
Manny Ramirez 16
Jorge Posada 13
Paul O’Neill 12
Former NY Giant George Kelly holds the all-time World Series GIDP record with nine. O’Neill is 2nd with seven.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is George “King Kong” Kelly, isn’t it?
Bernie Williams, obviously a gagger.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz trashed
3 IP, 6 ER, 5 BB. 6-1 Reds, bottom of the 4th. Pujols singled in a run for the Cards in the top.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
unphortunately, the phils are winning
i have a feeling we’re going to be hosting the cards next week
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
Although Pedro has yielded a run in three of the four innings he’s pitched tonight.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
kendrick is in now
and moehler is no cy young
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the Phillies pen
there is always hope for the opposition.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vin Scully was on the Padres pregame show tonight. Here is the link:
http://bit.ly/10IL0z (mp3 file)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a tremendous and lengthy interview.
Scully has a problem with Tim McClellan and umpires who don’t articulate their calls to the fans.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vin said he likes Jon Miller’s impression of him, especially when done in a Japanese or Mexican accent (just for something different).
When asked who did the best Scully impression, Vin deadpanned “I do a pretty good impression.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ricky Nolasco has 9 straight Ks tonight. And counting.
MLB record is 10 (Tom Seaver).
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nolasco??
Did the Braves just give up after last night?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad for a guy who was
sent to the minor earlier this year. Maybe he will pull a Halliday, he has the talent. Anyone remember that was Molly’s pick for sleeper of the year.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange year for Nolasco. He does have the stuff. 5+ ERA but WHIP < 1.3. Since his ERA was 9 after his horrible start in the first nine games, 5+ is a marked improvement!
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He crushed the spirit of many a roto player this year
those who paid him big bucks only to see him fail at a magnitude they couldn’t imagine, dropped him when the was sent to AAA and then crushed again when he came back and was pretty damn good for the rest of the year.
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got pasted in only three starts after that, in 22 starts, including tonight.
From June to his last start his ERA is 4, with opponents hitting .233 / .274 / .383 / .657
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same.
Once included in a trade from the Cubs for a certain $44 million outfielder.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of player valuation issues.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marlins are so smart
to bad they have zero money. Did they get the park approved and is the public paying for it?
by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam LaRoche is set to lead off the 6th.
Nolasco is sitting on 12 K and just 72 pitches through 5
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boooo. LaRoche gets on base. Streak over at 9
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Daaaaaaamn
Boston getting blow out of the water at Fenway. Why am I talking about this? Halladay has a no hitter going after 5.
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 30, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
holy
just 6 more K’s for 20, and he’s got (technically) 9 outs left. What’s his pitch count?
by PHAT JULIO on Sep 30, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
44 hr
damn now that was a very good draft pick
by hirambocachica on Sep 30, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as the crystal ball unfogs...
Carpenter vs Kershaw – wed 5 pst
Wainwright vs Wolf – thur 5 pst
here in LA, of course.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
have to admit…
starting to get excited. I feel like this team can beat anyone, any given night.
by LA Taco on Sep 30, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm happy about seeing that first game
it should more or less take us to the WS or mean the playoffs are basically one-and-done
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking more like dodgers vs cards...
lets hope its like the 2009 finals
where the lakers lost both regular season games against the magic
but in the playoffs they dominated…beating em in 5
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh dammit astros
a 3-1 lead turns into an 8-3 deficit…wowowow
were going to have to clinch the west and HFA on our own anyway i guess … :/
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cards losin big to the reds…
i hate those people that say dodgers dont deserve to win the NL west
cause technically everyone loses to crap teams
hell even a month ago, yanks lost 2 of 3 to the orioles AT HOME…
so i guess no one deserves to make the playoffs?
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the only way they will not deserve it
is if they do not actually seal the deal. Here’s to hoping that they will TONIGHT.
by sarcastro9 on Sep 30, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
brewers aint going to help us at all anyway
cmon dodgers!!! win this shit!
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers will get swept. Dodgers just need to win tonight.
by KSeal on Sep 30, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes they will
its isnt a matter of if but when
theres no way dodgers will lose the rest of their games while the rockies win all of them…
but i really want HFA…
it helps alot when ur going against the cards and phillies
"That is not how you play the game!!!" -Jack in the Box
by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you guys underestimate the brew crew
they’re a perfect spoiler team. remember prince’s tantrum? and kendall still hustles his ass off for an old guy.
by stillnotah8er on Sep 30, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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