Dodgers Sign Padilla To One-Year Deal
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 11:11 AM PST
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The Dodgers are bringing back starting pitcher Vicente Padilla, who authored one of the best two consecutive game playoff pitching performances in club history, on a one-year deal. Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports the deal is for $5.025 million, including a $1 million signing bonus and a $4.025 million base salary. Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times reports that "Padilla can earn an additional $1 million in incentives based on innings pitched", and that Padilla's signing bonus will be paid in 2011.
Back in December, I warned that signing Padilla might not be the best move, considering how mediocre he was in Texas prior to his resurgence in 11 starts as a Dodger:
Unless the offer is a one-year contract for a few million bucks, perhaps with some incentives built in, the Dodgers should stay away from the Vicente Padilla sweepstakes. Otherwise, he is a bad gamble.
Now, $4 million $5 million seems reasonable, given that it seems to be one of the lowest, if not the lowest, free agent contracts yet signed by a starting pitcher this offseason. “Vicente did a tremendous job for us down the stretch and his continued success in the postseason proved that he can pitch when there’s a lot at stake,” said Dodgers' GM Ned Colletti. Here are his 2010 projections:
| Year | IP | ERA | FIP | BB/9 | K/9 |
| 2009 Bill James | 151 | 4.71 | 4.71 | 3.28 | 6.26 |
| 2009 CHONE | 152 | 4.91 | 4.77 | 3.55 | 6.34 |
| 2009 actual | 147.1 | 4.46 | 4.51 | 3.30 | 5.93 |
| 2010 Bill James | 141 | 4.66 | 4.73 | 3.26 | 6.19 |
| 2010 CHONE | 155 | 4.70 | 4.74 | 3.60 | 6.27 |
For what it's worth, Padilla did win our poll this morning over Jon Garland, so there's that!
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But it won’t matter in the NLCS, as the Phillies will be implementing a two man rotation of (Halladay and Hamels) due to all the off days and rain outs that are likely.
vr, Xei
we can beat hamels..
halladay.. i give us ZERO chance… absoutly zero
This quote will come back to haunt you. Book it.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
No need to beat Halliday
he won’t even be pitching in October
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sure
after all this talk about Doc beings a sure thing for 220 innings, he will get hurt while Cliff Lee will win his 2nd AL Cy Young. Baseball Gods are all over this one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
SF would disagree
and I’d agree with them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 21, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah I'll take our decent 4 starter for 4 mil
over their decent 4 starter for 120 mil.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
If you don’t consider contract then Zito would be better than Padilla. Taking contract into consideration there isn’t a worse pitcher in baseball than Zito.
I can't ignore contract
but yes Zito is better than Padilla. I don’t think he’s all that much better though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
let's take a look
A simple look at 5/4/3 weighted WAR for Zito vs Padilla.
Zito:
2007: 1.7 WAR * 3 = 5.1
2008: 1.4 WAR * 4 = 5.6
2009: 2.2 WAR * 5 = 11.0
Total: 21.7 / 12 = 1.81
Padilla
*2007: 1.5 WAR * 3 = 4.5
*2008: 2.0 WAR * 4 = 8.0
2009: 2.0 WAR * 5 = 10.0
Total: 22.5 / 12 = 1.88
- (0.5 adjustment for having played in the AL… apples vs apples adjustment)
Yeah, it’s pretty even. Padilla is 8 months older, so no huge difference on the age adjustments going forward.
vr, Xei
I have Sanchez as their 4th starter
and I’d take him in a 2nd over Padilla. The Giants are one team we do not match up well with.
Lincecum > Kershaw
Cain > Billingsley
Zito < Kuroda
Sanchez > Padilla
Bumgarner > anyone from our group
by meercatjohn on Jan 21, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
It's basically the same story
as last year. They have a better starting pitching staff, the Dodgers have a better lineup and bullpen.
As the Iron Chef host says, Who will reign supreme!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Watching that show right now
secret ingredient: elk
by Julio Nievas on Jan 21, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
Whoa. I may skip that one.
But, hey… carrion.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
I have here with me, an elk.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jan 21, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Cain = Lucky
well, he’s good too… but very very lucky til the last month of the season last year.
Him and J.A. Happ.
vr, Xei
Okay, I'll weigh in
Even with the strong year Cain had last year, and the perceived horrible collapse Billingsley experienced, x-FIP favors Billingsley.
2009
Billingsley x-FIP: 4.04
Cain x-FIP: 4.22
Considering that I believe Billingsley was dealing with lingering issues (possibly fatigue) from the broken leg, and Cain has his best year as a pro, I would firmly say Billingsley > Cain.
In fact, Billingsley x-FIP for the past three years has been better than Cain’s best x-FIP.
2009: 4.04
2008: 3.62
2007: 4.14
Cain’s best was 2009 at 4.22.
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I know Cain had a lucky year relative to ERA
but he has good stuff and could easily just keep getting better. Same for Chad, they will always be matched together as they shot up the minor leagues at the same time and have been pitching against each other now for several years.
by meercatjohn on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting that you say that
given how well we pounded the Giants last year.
by Capt Obvious on Jan 22, 2010 3:53 AM PST up reply actions
Seems ok
Padilla plus possibly Wang a bit later = pretty decent #4 starter. Hopefully Kuroda returns to health and consistency.
If the Mariners sign Sheets I may have to have a new 2nd favorite team, and favorite GM.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Mariner fans have all the confidence in the world in their GM, so they expect anything :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Just a possibility
and they have a news conference scheduled for this afternoon. Which could be about something else.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Gagne pitched for the Dodgers
Either that or will be. I say we sign him like we did Weaver last year.
Russel Martin
Is his best friend and I wonder if there might be a plus side to that. We will see after he works out for the Dodgers after the Phills and the Rockies.
This played out as expected
my only surprise to the 2010 roster as it currently stands is that Carroll was signed instead of Belliard. Questions left for spring training to provide:
1. Who gets the 5th spot between Elbert, Stults, McDonald, and Haeger?
2. If Stults or Haeger do not win a rotation spot will we lose them like Ross and Young since they are out of options?
3. Who wins the backup outfield role between Repko, Paul, and Barton?
4. Will we carry two backup outfielders?
5. Who wins the backup utility role between Hu, Berroa, Green
6. Backup Catcher
Not a lot of intrigue left.
This offseason
was not nearly as interesting as last year’s.
I gotta do some research, but there is a chance Haeger still has an option left. Not totally sure, but he did not use an option in 2009 because he was never on the 40-man and not on the 25-man.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
My guesses
1. Elbert, Stults probably second
2. I raise the same question
3. Paul
4. Manny’s getting old, so I say yes
5. Berroa
6. Ausmus
by Julio Nievas on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
My takes
1, Stults wins it , roster consideration plays a role, Haegar is more likely to clear waivers and get a minor league deal with the Dodgers.
2. See above,
3, If healthy I would say Repko only because the Dodgers wourld prefer to have Paul get regular playing time in AAA.
4. Not at the start of the season.
5. Green
6. I think there is still a good shot the Dodgers add a veteran b/u for 1-1.5 M.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
1. I see Stults taking the 5th spot, since he is out of options and adds another lefty to the rotation.
2. See above, Heager makes it through waivers and back to AAA.
3. Right now, I would say Repko, but that can and probably will change.
4. I think we sign an OF/1B type like Gomes or Thames.
5. Green
6. Ellis
I think it's going to be Ellis, too.
Or Ausmus. Don’t see it being anyone else besides those two.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
My take
1. Elbert
2. I think Stults can clear waivers, somebody will take a flyer on Haeger.
3. Your earlier post convinced me, Repko is the 4th outfielder.
4. No
5. Berroa
6. Ausmus at about the same price as last year.
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I think Stults will go to Japan if he doesn’t get a major league job.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
1. A pitcher yet to be determined may emerge from the annual NRI spring training project.
2. if Stults or Haeger can’t win the #5 spot now, they are expendable.
3. Repko – he’s signed.
4. More pitching instead – Paul’s only a phone call away
5. Berroa
6. Ellis – most cost effective for what have been limited innings the past few seasons
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I like the signing.
Decent pitcher who won’t be as bad in LA as he was in Texas due to being in the NL and not pitching half his games in a launching pad. 4 million dollars is a very reasonable price.
I’d much rather have Quesapadilla at that price than Pineiro at what the Angels gave him…
"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana
by Chzburger Jones on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM PST reply actions
That's why you'll never be mistaken for a GM, eh armchair?
Albatross, thy name is GMJ.
by PieceOfAase on Jan 21, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
That seemed kind of uncalled for.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Angel fan
protecting his Angel GM. Kind of like my Clipper defense reflex response.
by meercatjohn on Jan 21, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
nice
I like him. Better than garland in my book
by hirambocachica on Jan 21, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions
Plus incentives
2 WAR = $7M
2.5 WAR = $8.75
when all is said and done, Dodgers will likely be paying for something close to 2 WAR.
vr, Xei
If you poll it, they will come..
For what it’s worth, Padilla did win our poll this morning over Jon Garland, so there’s that!
Maybe this is better than a crystal ball? Maybe we up the ante next time a bit??
The Padilla Flotilla is back!!
The Phillies signed Joe Blanton to a three-year, $24MM extension, according to a team press release. The deal buys out Blanton’s last arbitration year and two free agent seasons.
I still don’t get why the Phillies just didn’t keep Lee and trade Blanton.
Agreed
They wanted to re-stock their system with the return for Lee, but I would have kept him and thrown out a devastating 1-2 punch, with Hamels as the best #3 pitcher in the NL, if not MLB.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Hamels is still good enough to be a great #2 or good #1, I would be scared
to see Halladay, Lee, Hamels. That would just be unfair.
As Tyler Kepner points out, the Phillies have Halladay, Hamels, Blanton, and Happ under team control through 2012. I’m not a Happ fan, but that’s good enough and great stability in the staff.
Oh yeah, and they have the whole lineup signed through 2011 as well, except for Werth, who is a FA after this year.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
When this guy's head is in the game, he's downright nasty.
Great re-signing!
Albatross, thy name is GMJ.
Slightly higher
From Gurnick:
Vicente Padilla’s new Dodgers contract calls for a $4.025 million base salary and a $1 million signing bonus
From mlbtraderumors
Padilla, 32, posted a 5.9 K/9, 3.3 BB/9, and 4.46 ERA in 147.3 innings for the Rangers and Dodgers last year. The Dodgers added him as a free agent in August after the Rangers released him, and he tossed 56.6 solid innings for L.A. between the regular season and playoffs. Padilla’s ’09 injury ledger included forearm tightness, a strained shoulder, a bruised palm, swine flu, and a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
For the velocity difference, Padilla might simply be healthier in L.A. than in Texas. He did take about 3 weeks off after he was released by Texas
If you don’t let him strike you out, better lock your doors. Fear is good in this game when it’s on your side.
by RawhideBlue on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
He had the Swine Flu
He didn’t pitch well after that and with the team chemistry destroyed by his comments he was cut. It did give him time to get his strength back.
He will be fine but I wonder how old he actually is.
Andrew is comparing Padilla to Tomko over at DT. He could well be right, but Tomko didn’t have the upside that Padilla has shown while in Blue. Maybe he inherited the Giovanni ghost which makes him bulletproof at DS.
Love that extra $2.
It gets him a cup of coffee.
…hears crickets…
by silverwidow on Jan 21, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I had to look her up; had no idea who she was/is.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
My 2 cent perspective
that I posted on Dodger Thoughts before I officially stop caring about this. (Which I will in 5…4…)
Honestly though, the Dodgers needed to add more starting pitching depth. Other than Sheets, which as nsx fairly points out may understandably be too risky for the Dodgers given the Schmidt debacle, the options out there are really not that great are they? If they were definitely going to sign another starter, why not the devil you know, a devil with some upside, over the rest of the available lot. Which is full of either the old, the bad or the ugly.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
...and we're back to $94m!
From Dylan Hernandez:
Padilla will receive a base salary of $4.025 million and a $1 million signing bonus that will be paid in 2011
Padilla can earn an additional $1 million in incentives based on innings pitched
That means we can sign Sheets for 6M in 2010, with a 4M signing bonus deferred until 2011!!!
by silverwidow on Jan 21, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Doubt it
From Dylan Hernandez:
Even though the Dodgers signed Padilla at a bargain price, GM Ned Colletti said they probably could not afford another starting pitcher
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
I should have seen that coming. A one-year deal is almost never announced with the signing bonus listed separately.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Lets say we sign a veteran bench player AND Ausmus for a total of $2M - $3M
That leaves the payroll at $96 MM – $97MM.
My hope is that if there is an approx. $100 MM threshold, we can make mid-season moves without selling prospects for once or possibly sign Wang/Bedard.
Here cometh The Nightman!!!!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions
One year for $5 mil?! This is great news...
As far as I’m concerned, Colletti has done more good than bad. The way he’s been signing these veterans for relative discounts the past couple of years, at a time when other GMs are emptying the bank for their question marks, really is something he deserves some credit for.
It's interesting how our opinions changed
While some people surely had the feeling that McCourt was broke from the jump, the view on the blogs during the 2008 season was that Colletti was initially given the ability to sign expensive free agents at his discretion. Once the deals for Pierre and Schmidt didn’t work out, it was McCourt who forced Colletti to start going with shorter deals so that the organization wouldn’t get burned too badly by future Colleti mistakes.
Now, everybody believes that the real story is that McCourt is broke and that Colletti is doing a great job working with the conditions he finds himself in (no money.) Colletti now is viewed much higher than before, and McCourt is pretty much at rock bottom.
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno. I liked the Schmidt deal at the time, before I knew that the Dodgers knew about his arm injury. I liked the Jones deal. I liked the original Furcal deal. I liked the original Nomar deal.
My sense is that the times that Colletti has employed the overpay-for-fewer-years strategy, it’s worked out more often than it hasn’t, but maybe my memory is faulty.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jan 21, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Count me among those
who preferred Garland but thinks Padilla will be fine and that it comes down to whomever is cheaper. I think we got that answer. $5 million ($1 deferred) plus a possible $1 million in incentives? That’s a good deal.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
No power anymore, and he might intimidate Broxton in the clubhouse :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
And plugging NutriSystem puts him at odds with Lasorda and whatever SlimFast ties he still has.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jan 21, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like he picked a good day to quit drinking
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Fun stat of the day
After 1988 World Series, the Dodgers have played 29 playoff games; they’ve had 4 starts w/ 7+ IP & 1 run or less:
Ramon Martinez, Lima Time, and Vicente Padilla (twice)
Heh
Whiteys have started 12 of those 29 games:
Lowe 4 times
Bills thrice
Kershaw, Wolf twice each
Maddux once
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
April 5: Kershaw*
April 6: Off Day
April 7: Billingsley
April 8: Kuroda
April 9: Padilla
*The Game 1 LCS start locks up Opening Day, imo.
Too lazy to look it up
Are the Dodgers at home or on the road on 4/5?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jan 21, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Pittsburgh…last time they visit in 2009 (Sept), first in 2010!
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I am betting On Bills
but Kuroda is a close second. Could easily be reversed. Kershaw I expect will be our #3.
Coming off a season that ended with Torre pulling Billingsley from the rotation and not using him in the playoffs until the manager was desperate, I can’t fathom – at this moment – Torre choosing Billingsley to start opening day.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
+1
cant see bills opening day.. at all..
By that logic ...
Billingsley will be the April 9 starter.
I think they could have Kershaw #2, putting him in line for the home opener.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. The last thing we need are Plaschke Fans irrationally booing Bills on Opening Day at home.
Kuroda (2 years in a row)
Kershaw
Bills
Padilla
I wouldn't mind having Kuroda start the home opening
He’s got the experience for it, if that really means anything.
Not really a factor
There’s nothing fresh in people’s minds to boo Billingsley about though. He didn’t get booed in the 2009 home opener, when fans’ last memories of him were two losses to the Phillies.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
That’s my point. If he pitches well, he’ll get cheered. If he doesn’t, he’ll likely get booed.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
It’s unbelievable how stupid people on MLBtraderumors.com are. Apparently Billingsley’s been a mess the last 2 years and hasn’t shown any signs of being able to eventually be an ace or a #2 pitcher.
Lol, I know he’s probably just a troll or a Giants fan, but I still can’t help arguing when people say such wrong things. Generally I don’t take anyone’s comments on there seriously, besides a few certain people, but certain things will set me off. I know Bills doesn’t have that elite pitcher ceiling like Lincecum and Kershaw do, but Bills can definitely put up great numbers, we all saw that in 08 and half of 09. I can’t wait to see him completely healthy and in shape in 2010.
Dodgers will trade Sherrill
and Stults or Haeger for one more decent #4 or #5 and still keep payroll under $100M. They get rid of $4.5 from Sherrill but add 6-9M for the new guy. This also gives them insurance for Kuroda/Padilla injuries.
They aren’t going to get anything for Stults or Haeger. I’m pretty sure the roster is pretty much set, outside of a few bench spots
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Rough estimates
Future dead money on the payroll (money paid to players no longer on the team):
2011: $15.8m (Manny, Pierre, Andruw, Schmidt, Padilla)
2012: $13.3m (Manny, Pierre, Andruw)
2013: $10.3m (Manny, Andruw)
2014: $3.4m (Andruw)
Yeah, I was posting that without commentary. I’m OK with the premise that deferring Manny, et al, allowed us to get Hudson and Wolf, etc. That system works best when the team is constantly being infused with new (cheap) talent, so we will have to ramp up our efforts in that regard of course.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
on the payroll, I really think you are missing Kurodas signing bonus for 2010. per cots baseball contracts, he has a 7.3 million signing bonus to be paid between march 2008 and march 2010. split between the 3 years, that’s another 2.4 million to the 2010 payroll
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 21, 2010 1:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I haven’t seen the source on that other than Cot’s. Every published report I have seen had it paid in the first year (2008).
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I would be happy to change it, but I’d like a published source for the info.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I guess my source would be tha McCourt is cheap and would want to pay out bonuses as late as possible. but seriously if you saw that it was paid out in 2008 then I believe you…I was just going off of Cots. i’ll have to look more when I get home from work
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 21, 2010 1:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Padilla leaves the heavier hitting DHing AL and hot a nd humid Arlington Tx
for
The NL in the cooler more pitcher friendly Dodger Stadium where he is surrounded by more people on the team who speak his native tongue.
Padilla showed some good stuff while in this environment with the Dodgers at the end of last season.
If he can give 150+ innigs in 2010, then some of the youngsters (Elbert) can make up the remainder of the 50+ innings to get to the necessary 200+ innings needed out of the #4 spot in the rotation.
Cash strapped, this signing makes sense, hope it works out.
Need more than 150 IP
from Padilla. We need around 28 starts from him. Between Kershaw, Billz, KU-Rod and Padilla, I have us short around 49 starts. I think we have some pretty decent depth as you allude to with the likes of Elbert, McDonald and even Stults and Haeger if they don’t get lost to waivers. I think we need to do our best to keep all four in the fold, so we don’t have to give too many starts to the likes of Ortiz and Weaver and their ilk.
vr, Xei
Yeah, but Padilla’s gone 147 innings the past two seasons and his career avg is 178
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
didn’t he have something like three weeks off last year after being released? He had 25 starts last year and would’ve had 3 or 4 more had he been employed the whole time… 29 starts the year before. I think Chone has him at 28 too, if I’m not mistaken. I hope he can hit 28 this year.
vr, Xei
2003 – 208
2004 – 115
2005 – 147
2006 – 200
2007 – 120
2008 – 171
2009 – 147
Yes, let’s hope for a 2003/2006 type performance for 2010.
It is needed as you say.
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Tigers’ Cabrera treated for alcoholism (AP)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-tigers-cabrera&prov=ap&type=lgns
Maybe he’ll lose 31 pounds like Mr. Stairs has.
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
or go the LenDale White weight loss program!
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Better than going to a sexaholic treatment center.
Why on earth would anyone do that?
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Because having sex cost the person millions of dollars in endorsements?
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Technically, getting married is what cost him the millions
Had he been single and doing all this, virtually nobody would have cared.
by EMDarrow on Jan 21, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
May even have enhanced his big driver endorsements?
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I actually didn't even really believe it when I typed it
In any event, the “right” answer seems that sex addiction impacted his public image, which cost him endorsement dollars.
But ya, your point is quite correct.
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Alot of his image was built around him being some sort of squeaky-clean family man. More than a few times even, its been speculated that he got married for no other reason than it would help his image.
Who knows what the truth is, but bottom line is he screwed up, big time.
A few million dollars is a drop in the bucket for him.
He should have gone into therapy to prevent having sex w/skanky-trailer-trash-looking ho’s.
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
That fact may work in his favor now
What better way to prove you’re addicted then to say, “C’mon man, I’m Tiger Woods! Why would I have sex with that unless I was hopelessly addicted?”
Having sex with tens or hundreds of women whenever you feel like it is sooo overrated.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but this one really made me laugh!
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
This could explain why he's been so good for so long
He just filled his free time with slump buster sex and boom, continuous winning!
Sure, I suppose the money isn’t that big of a deal, but it obviously matters to him. I mean, I’d be satisfied with the amount of money Tiger already has, but Tiger didn’t keep doing Buick commercials because he liked them. He obviously wanted to keep earning.
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think he drives Buicks, don’t you? I mean, he was only in the Escalade because Buick doesn’t roll an Escalade, right????
Or maybe the Buick Century was in the shop and this was a loaner?
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
The drone who writes the ESPN Rumor Central baseball stuff should spend more time reading about the teams he writes about.
Los Angeles could still use a second baseman, and if they have little or no money available, Jamey Carroll will be the starter.
They still haven’t heard of Blake DeWitt. This is not the first time. I understand if you don’t think DeWitt should be the starter. That’s fine. But write that. Carroll is not the starter. Virtually every report regarding Carroll has stated he will split time with DeWitt at 2B. A tiny acknowledgment of that would improve ESPN’s dwindling credibility.
It was his bodyguard. As long as he’s away, we’re fine :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to open a “Professional Athlete School of Gun Safety and Handling” with courses taught by Plexico, Gilbert Arenas, and Padilla.
Is the advanced course taught by Dick Cheney?
by EMDarrow on Jan 21, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Masters Degree taught by Jayson Williams
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I would not mess with Vicente Padilla
1. He looks like someone’s GodFather – He could be playing a drug cartel boss and be believable
2. He has a gun and is not shy about using it
3. He has an arm that can throw a fastball 95 MPH and is not afraid to use it
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 21, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Plus, you can’t wear a shirt with at least 3 unbuttoned buttons without having extreme confidence.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
>> 3. He has an arm that can throw a fastball 95 MPH at your head and is not afraid to use it <<
I felt that distinction needed to be made.
He got fired in Texas
The team hated him. He became a huge distraction. I live in Arlington Texas and I heard this stuff every day.
Just how hard can he throw anyway?
He did hit 95+ for the Dodgers. I was at DS for Game 2 of the LCS and I couldn’t believe how hard he threw.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Was it the first two batters he faced and did he get tossed?
by Michael White on Jan 21, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
He hit two people 15 times, and the shortest outing was 3.2 IP.
Interestingly enough, that was the game he gave up 7 runs, nailed Tex twice and pissed off everyone in both clubhouses!
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
oh yeah- I remember thinking, "Jeez! What a thug!"
Little did I know I’d be praising Colletti for the resigning of that thug 7 months later- can’t wait for another reunion between these old pals in June! :)
Padilla never forgives
I see about all of the Rangers home games and he was a thug if you hit him. American League so the retaliation comes to someone else.
Padilla giving Swisher a noogie
Or making him smell his balls as the catcher turns away in disgust, not sure which one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yet another layer to the Padilla vs. current Yankees element. Adds intrigue to interleague :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Could make our Yankee/Dodger series
very interesting.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can we start Padilla in all 3 games?
Game 1: hit first 3 guys and get tossed; Bills already warm in the pen (prepped as a starter) comes in and throws his 8 and goes 7 solid
Game 2: hit first guy and get tossed; Kershaw comes in with his jelly-leg curve and goes 8
Game 3: Padilla CG
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Teixeira first faced Padilla on June 9, 2005, when Padilla was with the Phillies. Teixeira homered in the first and third innings and got hit in the fifth.
“Every time I’ve faced him since,” Teixeira said, “there’s seemed to be balls near my head, near my body. And today I got hit twice.”
The two wound up teammates for 2006 and part of 2007.
“I remember getting hit a lot because he was hitting other players,” Teixeira said. “There’s no reason for it. Tonight, the same kind of thing.”
In fact, Teixeira was hit by a pitch seven times while Padilla was his teammate, but only one of those came in a game in which Padilla pitched.
Teixeira said he got no response when, in their time in Texas, he told Padilla to stop throwing at batters.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I wonder if some of those other 6 HBP came during the same series as a Padilla HBP, sort of a delayed payback.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Rangers-Yankees
Very bad blood. I have all of their games here in Texas and it is always a sellout.
Great Quotes
and actually a very fine article on our new pitcher.
http://js.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/10/padilla_nicaraguas_hope.html
“The way a person treats me is how I understand who a person is,” Dodgers left fielder Manny Ramirez said. “I can’t talk about what happened with Vicente in Texas or anywhere else because I wasn’t there. He’s treated me with respect and he’s treated others here with respect. What else do you want? Who am I to judge another person? Let him be who he is. have no problem with him.”
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It always frightening
when Manny Ramirez is the Voice of Reason.
by prosellis on Jan 21, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Then, when accused of being less than genius, Manny replied:
I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect!
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
just a thought
“Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men….a struggle for supremacy, survival of the fittest.” Ty Cobb
Was he berating a black man, or beating up a crippled man while he said that? :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 21, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Ty Cobb – master berater?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jan 21, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
And that gets a rec.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jan 21, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Test
Everyone just stopped cold, more than two hours ago? Strange. People only come to the site when they’re at work?
Anyway, just testing to make sure comments sent are arriving…
Sorry
It wasn’t much more than one hour or so since the precious comment. Nothing wrong with that. And it’s all working fine.
My wife demands that I occasionally pay attention to her rather than the blog.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
And occasionally, especially in the offseason, a man’s gotta eat dinner every now and again.
by KellyStephen on Jan 21, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
The Front Office Is Genious
They set my expectations so loooow, I’m now glad we got Padilla. Now we will be a top 10 team. If we make any noise, it will be because of the young’on’s.
I wonder if Padilla is looking for a new bodyguard and if Jamie threw that part in for the good of the team to make this deal happen?
the piggy-bank is now empty.
Please go buy some Dodger tickets.
by 68elcamino427 on Jan 21, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know what’s funnier, Royals signing Rick Ankiel for $3 million with a 6 million player option. Or that Freddy Sanchez needs surgery and is going to miss opening day.
MLB Trade Rumors says it’s a mututal option.
Otherwise, that would be high-larious.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jan 21, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
love the signing
for just more than sfg paid molina to be one of the worst offensive players in baseball, a malcontent, out-of-shape diva blocking one of the top prospects in baseball, we get
“no ones gonna warn ya – and no ones gonna yell attack
and you won’t feel the steel til its hangin out your back”
seriously – huff, derosa, shoulder surgery sanchez, now bengie back, is sabean a dodger mole?
by lchristmas on Jan 21, 2010 11:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
LaRoche signs with Arizona for $4.5 million
and a mutual option for 2011 for $7 million and a $ 1.5 million buyout.
That’s after he turns down $ 17 Million over two years with the Giants. Now that’s funny.
Angels are trading Gary Mathews, Jr. to the Mets
MLB.com story here.
per Jerry Crasnick:
Not sure who the Angels are getting back for Matthews, but I was told it’s a "low salaried pitcher’’ off the big league roster
I like this contract.
I think he will perform good enough for a 4th starter. I’m thinking 10-13 wins, 3.80-4.15 ERA and he will get a longer contract from somebody else. At least he should be motivated to get another contract.
He is his own motivation
Posters at Lone Star are thinking he might be an All-Star for the Dodgers. The word is he is a much better pitcher than the last time he pitched in the National League.
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