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El Cañon - Why not?

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The Facts –

1993 - Impressive in his 91 PA debut with 4 homeruns, and a deep bomb in everybody’s favorite 1993 game on October 3.

1994 – Ran away with unanimous ROY honors while batting .304 with 16 homeruns. (123 OPS+)  Raul was on pace for 22 homeruns in that strike shortened season.  Klesko and the great John Hudek had no chance in that vote.  With 16 putouts in only 112 games, he was opening eyes around the league with his defense. 

1995 – NL All-Star and Gold Glove.  Another great season batting .285/.328/.496.  We will not discuss his Homerun Derby appearance. 

1996 – Near duplicate season from 1995.  Third year in a row with OPS+ of 123. Smashed 24 homeruns and 40 doubles.  .297/.334/.495

1997 – What a breakout season.  Another Gold Glove.  Batted .310/.360/.541 with 42 doubles, 30 homeruns and 32 stolen bases.  140 OPS+, and became the first and only Dodger to join the 30-30 club. 

1998 – Overall production was slightly down but his power was the only constant during this forgettable season.  30 home runs and another 90 RBI’s.   

1999 – More power, more steals, but even less overall production?  Another 30-30 season.  33 home runs, 99 RBI’s and 36 steals.  He finally learned to take a walk with 71 total.  OBP of .332 made up for his falling average. 

6+ Seasons – Very solid numbers and a very solid player.  Career dodger totals of .288/.334/.504 with 163 Homeruns, 140 SB and an OPS+ of 122.  He brought home hardware, and played an exciting brand of baseball. 

El Cañon was by far the most exciting player I ever saw in a Dodger uniform.  Time does fly, and it is hard to imagine that he was here for over 6 seasons.  Or is it only 6 seasons? I just wish we had the chance to see more of Raul playing at his best in a Dodger uniform.  Mondesi was hailed by Lasorda as the ultimate 5 tool player.  Speed, Power, Hit for average, plus arm and great fielding skills.  He was Matt Kemp before there was Matt Kemp. 

Mondesi became my favorite player on April 23, 1994.  The Dodgers had a struggling 2B named Delino.  He was only batting .210 and was just terrible.  Raul saved the day for all Dodger fans by knocking Delino unconscious with his rock solid chest during a collision of which Mondesi caught the ball.  Mondesi’s heroics propelled the Dodgers to a three game winning streak where Jeff Treadway and Cory Snyder played a great 2B in Delino’s absence.

Opening Day 1999 was the huge matchup between free agent pitchers Kevin Brown and Randy Johnson at Dodger Stadium.  The pitching matchup did not live up to expectations as the game became the Raul Mondesi Show.  Trailing 6-3 in the 9th, Mondesi crushed a 3 run homer into left to tie the game and followed in the 11th with a dramatic walk off 2 run bomb to win it.  He finished 4 for 5 with 6 RBI on the day.

Unfortunately, that was not a sign of things to come.  The Dodgers stunk in 1999 and finished 23 games behind Arizona.  That seemed to be the story of the 90’s for this franchise.  Some great players, and great performances but it never came together.  I personally blame Karros or whoever decided he was good enough to ever play on this team, but we can leave that for another discussion.

I think that with more victories and any post season success, we would see Mondesi’s Dodger career in a different light.  Bhsportsguy makes a case for Guerrero with a lot of flashy numbers that is compelling, but Mondesi is right there with him.  If you compare Pete’s best 6 years 82-87 with Raul’s 6 years one could argue Mondesi was better.  Pete could take a walk, and had a better average, but Mondesi had him beat across the board elsewhere.  More homeruns, doubles, triples, SB, RBI and runs. We don’t even have to bring up the glove.  Mondesi was also a much more durable player when comparing games played.

The shame is that Raul flamed out at such a reasonably early age.  He had many documented personal struggles throughout his career that obviously affected his playing shape and led to his diminishing skills.  The Dodgers traded him at the right time for the right player after the 1999 season.

I will always remember spending my teenage years at Dodger Stadium screaming Raaauuuuul every time he made another great play.  He is not the automatic Lords of the Ravine pick like Koufax or Piazza, but the discussion is yours.

ED - Image from the excellent baseball card blog "Garvey Cey Russell Lopes"

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I don't think you can compare Mondesi to Guerrero

Raul Mondesi was one of the first Dodgers that I can recall following when he was in the minors, he was the 5 tool player that this Dodger fan would hopefully become the first home-grown outfielder to lead the Dodgers to another title.

And he was exciting, especially in his early years his speed and defensive ability

But he does not compare to Guerrero, who not only considered at his time one of the more valuable players in the National League but his OPS+ (in a slightly more difficult era) was much better than Mondesi’s OPS+.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 29, 2010 1:52 AM PST reply actions  

How do you figure that Guerrero played in a slightly more difficult era? I would think with more power hitters in the 90’s that the OPS+ bar would be higher. Let me know.

by delias man on Jan 29, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Should take a look at EQA

but the difference between Mondesi’s defense and Pedro’s is substantial. I’d like to see Jay Jaffe’s take on the two of them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Derrick Turnbow

The Dodgers, one of the “finalists” for him as of yesterday, did not sign him. Per Jerry Crasnick:

Derrick Turnbow agrees to minor league deal w/ Marlins, w/a major league invite. They have a history of bullpen turnaround stories.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 29, 2010 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

He turned down an offer from the Rockies as well, per the Denver Post

by Eric Stephen on Jan 29, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Turnbow will get $600k if he makes the team, plus an additional $50k potentially in incentives, per Joe Frisaro of MLB.com

by Eric Stephen on Jan 29, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Marlins “turned around” Kiko Calero last year. His full name is Enrique Nomar Calero. Has Ned written all over him, except he’s probably out of Ned’s price range.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 29, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved to watch Raul play

He was awesome, but 6 years on the 90’s team is just not enough for the O’Malley Suite.

by MammothDodger on Jan 29, 2010 9:21 AM PST reply actions  

Nice Writeup

Unfortunately, my lingering memory of Mondesi is when I saw—on the internet—a story stating that Mondesi was seeking a large contract (something like 5y/$60mil). Strangely, he was given such a contract shortly afterwards. He never lived up to his promise, but he was very exciting and somehow part of the Shawn Green trade. How that one came together I still can’t figure out.

by kinbote on Jan 29, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Given that the other players swapped were Pedro Borbon (of “Airplane”, not Reds, fame), a 31-year old LOOGY, for Jorge Núñez (a prospect, later paired with Matt Herges in the deal that brought Guillermo Mota to the Dodgers), the trade was pretty close to Mondesi/Green straight up. The Jays may have thought they were selling high on Green, who knows. I guess Kevin Malone was capable of a good move too.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 29, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice article. I’m probably not convinced that he’s Walter O’Malley suite-worthy, but maybe in a later, lower floor.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 29, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Raaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuul

what a talent, what a jerk for wasting that talent after he left us. Loved watching him throw, best arm since Reggie Smith in RF. Few teams do challenge trades like the one we did with Green/Mondesi but it sure worked out for the Dodgers. Two totally different type of players in all aspects. Good article for the future.

Time for Mike to chime in on Shawn Green don’t you think?

by meercatjohn on Jan 29, 2010 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

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