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An Extra Outfielder Might Not Be A Central Issue

We know, thanks to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com earlier this week, that the Dodgers are looking to add a lefty-hitting fourth outfielder.  That news probably tells you all you need to know about Xavier Paul's chances of making the club, at least out of spring training.  Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness did a good job the other day breaking down the potential candidates to fill that need. 

One would think this fourth outfielder would need to have the ability to play centerfield, given that neither Manny Ramirez nor Andre Ethier seem candidates to fill in for Matt Kemp if needed.  Otherwise, the club would presumably have to carry five outfielders (think Jason Repko) unless Kemp wants to pull a Cal Ripken and not miss an inning in 2010.  

However, the Dodgers don't appear to be necessarily looking for someone who could play centerfield.  First, a commenter on Dodger Thoughts (scroll down to Ryan Francis at 3:32pm) said he, while at the "Select-A-Seat" event for season ticket holders on Thursday, saw Brian Giles running sprints in the outfield At Dodger Stadium.  Joe Bick, the agent for Giles, declined comment, but what is known is that Giles is not a centerfielder (having played eight total innings there in the last four seasons). 

Then on Friday, Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated reported the Dodgers and Angels "could be in play" for Garret Anderson.  The last time Anderson played centerfield was 2004.  This is all speculation of course, but don't be surprised if the Dodgers break camp with five outfielders.  Maybe this will goad Tom Meagher into reviving his "Fifth Outfielder" blog!

At any rate, the number of available southpaw outfielders has decreased by one, as Frank Catalanotto has signed a minor league deal with the Mets.

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Here are some other Dodger-related links to tide you over on a Saturday:

Sparta's Belcher set for tough job with Tribe | marionstar.com | The Marion Star
A look at former Dodger Tim Belcher, set to be the new pitching coach of the Indians, by his hometown newspaper. Belcher's competitive nature was recalled:

"Belcher had a little bit of a temper," Underwood said with a wry grin. "(Hall-of-Famer) Eddie Murray once told me that when they were teammates in L.A. Tim flipped over a couple of tables after a game and the next day Eddie hung a Tazmanian Devil T-shirt in Tim's locker. From then on, Eddie called him 'Taz.' "

Belcher was acquired in 1987 in a trade with the A's for current Dodger pitching coach Rick Honeycutt. Honeycutt set the LA Dodger record for consecutive losses that year, with 11. The 33-year old Honeycutt would go on to pitch well out of the bullpen in Oakland for a few years, but I like the Dodger side of that trade of future pitching coaches.

There have been 63 pitchers, including Belcher, in the 126-year history of the Dodgers to make 100 starts for the franchise.  Belcher's 118 ERA+ ranks 13th, higher than Lords of the Ravine candidates Orel Hershiser, Don Sutton, and Fernando Valenzuela, among others.

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Blake family to donate $1 million to Indianola schools | indianolarecordherald.com | Indianola Record Herald
More hometown news, this time about a current Dodger, Casey Blake, donating money to his old school district:

Indianola native Casey Blake, a third baseman for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and his wife Abbie will donate $1 million to the of Indianola Community School District in a ceremony Monday, Feb. 1. "As graduates and former athletes of Indianola, we believe in the potential of the youth in our community and want to help provide them with facilities to develop their skills," Casey Blake said.

 

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Georgia Historical Society honors baseball great Jackie Robinson | savannahnow.com
Jackie Robinson, who was born in Cairo, Georgia, will be honored next week during the 2010 Georgia Days celebration. NPR host Scott Simon, who wrote "Jackie Robinson and the Integration of Baseball," will lead a lecture on Robinson.

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Blue Heaven: Ultimate Dodgers
Ernest Reyes takes a look at some Dodger autographed baseball cards, but I mostly just enjoy that Kemp signed one of the cards with "Go Dodgers" below his name.

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No Gomes?

Gomes and Reds close to deal (ESPN via www.mlbtraderumors.com)

by kinbote on Jan 30, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

I like him but it appears he’s not on the Dodgers’ radar.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 30, 2010 12:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe the RH bat who can also play 1b is taken already with Belliard.

by kinbote on Jan 30, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It's only a minor league deal again for Gomes

seemed if the Dodgers really wanted him they could beat that…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 30, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand their desire to add more OF depth in general

but really wish they’d give XPaul a better shot to be the 4th OF or lefty off the bench. He’s going to be a good one, and is cheaper than the vets being talked about. Again, I think they could use more OF depth but I’d rather it be younger, cheaper players floating around out there (if possible). And/or reacquire Jamie Hoffmann. ;-)

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by underdog on Jan 30, 2010 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

The thot of the current GA or Brian Giles as our 4th OFer is enough to make a dodger fan cry, at least this one…..And not tears of happiness.

by Bluetrain on Jan 30, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a nice guy and will make a great DH for the Dodgers.

Oh wait…

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by underdog on Jan 30, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Backup CF spot

Repko will never play save for a late inning D replacement in a blowout, so this is kind of a wasted roster spot.

If Kemp needs a day off, we can always try Ethier in CF (he auditioned there in spring 2008) with Casey Blake moving to RF and DeWitt/Belliard/Carroll at 3B.

Thoughts?

by silverwidow on Jan 30, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Can't Paul play CF in a pinch ?

And be better there defensively than Ethier?

I maintain Paul has the most diverse value of any of the backup options. Hope the Dodgers eventually realize that.

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by underdog on Jan 30, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

90% of Pauls playing time in the minors has been CF, both he and Repko are preferable defensive replacements than GA or Giles. Can GA and Giles still get around without a walker?

by Bluetrain on Jan 30, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny came out of a third of his starts (33 of 99) last year for defensive reasons, so whomever has that task will get his fill of playing time. Now, it could be Carroll instead of Repko, but the need still remains for someone who can play CF. It would be interesting if they just have the 4 OF, with Ethier as the de facto backup in CF.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 30, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier at CF?

That could be scary, has he even played CF? I don’t remember him ever playing it in college and Pat Murphy wasn’t exactly known for valuing defense.

by ASUcruz on Jan 31, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

In the low minors for the A’s he played 46 games in CF, according to baseball-reference.com. From 2004 on it doesn’t distinguish the OF positions for him; my memory says no CF in his 25 minor-league games for the Dodgers. Definitely zero CF in the majors.

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by David Young on Jan 31, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice research

I did a quick google seach and he did play a few games there for ASU. Seems like he’s done it but is not at all suited for it!

by ASUcruz on Jan 31, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Paul, but I think after missing so much time last season, he may be better off getting regular ABs in AAA, with the thought being that he could be the replacement for Manny in 2011 with a veteran RH bat as his platoonmate, much the same way I hope we handle DeWitt this season.

Repko is really a perfect fit as reserve OF, he hits lefites well, plays good D at all OF positions, has a great arm and can be used as a pinch runner. I say let him have a bench OF spot. I think Anderson or Giles are basically the 1st option of the bench from the left side, not necessarily 4th OFers. I am in favor of either one as it likely means that Green or Berroa are pushed off the roster.

by OB12 on Jan 30, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the X-Man

But I don’t think the Dodgers will carry him as a bench guy.

by silverwidow on Jan 30, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

Manny

Isn’t getting any younger, I think OF depth is important to this team. No idea how to best get it done.

by LA Taco on Jan 30, 2010 3:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed

The feeling is probably that they need an OF who could step in an play regularly for a stretch if needed, and the club understandably has doubts as to whether Paul or Repko can fill those shoes in 2010.

Whether or not GA can be that guy is certainly up for debate, but it’s easy to see what the club is thinking here.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 30, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If they want a veteran 4th OF, ideally he’d be able to play all 3 spots. Don’t know if anyone still out there qualifies.

by silverwidow on Jan 30, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

ehh, it certainly isnt either Anderson or Giles…..

by Bluetrain on Jan 30, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers need these two guys?

by 68elcamino427 on Jan 30, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems weird that we are scrambling for this 4th OF when we had a decent one in Pierre. I mean I hated Pierre’s contract, but we had him as a backup. Will that trade come back to bite us? Was it worth the savings if we sign some like GA for 3 million?

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 30, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Trading Pierre was worth it if it meant being able to sign a semi-decent veteran pitcher like Padilla. I hate the idea of bringing in Anderson, but I still think trading Juan was a great move.

by prosellis on Jan 30, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

good point. I didn’t think about how that money freed up the signing of Vicente and got us the pitcher in the trade

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 30, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt GA gets $3M – even if he hits all his incentives. :)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 30, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

As a diehard Braves fan

Trust me when I tell you this:

STAY FAR, FAR AWAY FROM GARRETT ANDERSON.

You’ll thank me later. The guy was so bad for us in 09 we called him FUGA (F*ck you Garrett Anderson). He can’t field, hit or run. Oh, and he doesn’t smile either.

Remember folks, I'm almost always wrong.
My sig was too long...

by Scott Coleman on Jan 30, 2010 8:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Sounds kind of like how

Andruw Jones was for us. (And he did smile. BUt that’s about all he did that was positive.)

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by underdog on Jan 30, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Uhhh,,, yeah
like what he did the last two years with the Angels
arthritis in the spine between the shoulders, etc.
Turns good on the change-up though

by 68elcamino427 on Jan 30, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

TBrownYahoo
  
Cabrera agrees to 1-year deal with Reds. 3 mil. Second-year option for another 3 mil.

by silverwidow on Jan 30, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

The value of waiting out the market

In December, we guarantee Jamey Carroll $3.85 million.

In late January, we don’t guarantee Ronnie Belliard $825k.

Now Cabrera signs for about the same guaranteed money as Carroll (I have seen it as a $3m one-year deal plus the option for 2011 has a $1m buyout…not sure if that means he gets $2m in salary in 2010 plus the buyout or that the total guarantee is $4m), to start for the Reds.

I’m not saying we should have signed Cabrera for Carroll’s role, because that’s not realistic, especially given that Cabrera apparently turned down the Rockies because he didn’t want to move of SS. But I just thought it was interesting how the values keep decreasing for free agent middle infielders, and good ones.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 30, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

With almost every item on their offseason to-do list crossed off, the Dodgers appear to have little else on their agenda than finding a fourth outfielder to replace Juan Pierre, whom they traded to the Chicago White Sox last month. That search appears to have been narrowed to four veteran free agents.

Garret Anderson, Brian Giles, Gabe Gross and Reed Johnson are in the mix, according to a source close to the organization.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=4873575

by Tripon on Jan 30, 2010 10:02 PM PST reply actions  

Reed Johnson has CF experience. But his career UZR/150 in CF, in about a season’s worth of work, is -14.8; in LF in about double the amount of play, +23.3. Sounds like a poor man’s Juan Pierre. Ned is a poor man.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 30, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to pick one of the four, Johnson would get my vote. Of course, that doesn’t help the lefty off the bench thing.

by prosellis on Jan 30, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

GA

wow why would the dodgers get GA.? what a freakin joke…

i really rather have xavier paul who is a better defender and can handle all 3 outfield spots…

by matthewmafa on Jan 30, 2010 11:26 PM PST reply actions  

If we consider the 25 year old XPaul our #23 prospect, maybe his upside is 4th OF? I suppose for $800k, why not Reed but still, how much of a prospect can Xavier be?
All average to above metric that I can see

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/P/Xavier-Paul.shtml

and he’s a LH too.

by megaballs on Feb 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

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