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2010 Ogden Raptors Season in Review

Next up in my minor league season in review series is the Ogden Raptors.  This powerful team played in a very hitter friendly park and made it all the way to the league championship.  I always enjoyed following the Raptors box scores because you never knew what would happen in any given game.  There were constantly big comebacks, and it was actually unusual if there weren’t at least a couple homers hit in a game.  As always, remember that these reports are very extensive, so just because I’m writing about a player doesn’t mean that he is a big time prospect.  While I’ll usually mention if a guy is worth keeping an eye on, you’ll have to wait for my upcoming prospect ranking to fully understand who I consider prospects and who are simply organizational players.

Record:  44 - 31

Season Result:  Finished in first place in both the 1st and 2nd half.  Beat the Orem Owls in playoff semi-finals, but lost in the finals to the Helena Brewers.

Season Recap:  The Raptors had a very strong season, winning their division in both halves of the season and finishing with the 2nd best record in the league.  Even though they got swept in the finals, Ogden can still feel confident in the fact that they lead the league in almost every offensive category.  I know that the Raptors play in very hitter friendly park, but even still hitting .298 as a team with a .832 OPS is very impressive.  The team’s pitching wasn’t quite as good as they finish 6th (out of 8 teams) with a 4.67 ERA, but the Raptors still managed to rack up the 2nd most strikeouts in the Pioneer League.

League Leaders: 

Category

Player

Rank

Amount

Runs

Jake Lemmerman

1st

69

Hits

Jake Lemmerman

4th

94

2B

Jake Lemmerman

1st

24

2B

Leon Landry

3rd

20

HR

Nick Akins

1st

15

RBI's

Robert Coyle

4th

52

TB

Jake Lemmerman

2nd

158

SB

Casio Grider

3rd

22

OBP

Jake Lemmerman

3rd

0.434

OBP

Chris Henderson

4th

0.429

SLG

Nick Akins

1st

0.650

SLG

Jake Lemmerman

3rd

0.610

Ave.

Jake Lemmerman

2nd

0.363

Ave.

Leon Landry

5th

0.349

OPS

Nick Akins

2nd

1.060

OPS

Jake Lemmerman

4th

1.044

Wins

Red Patterson

4th

6

ERA

Red Patterson

2nd

3.33

Games

Shawn Tolleson

1st

26

Saves

Shawn Tolleson

1st

17

Holds

Andrew Pevsner

3rd

5

Holds

Jake McCarter

4th

4

GF

Shawn Tolleson

1st

25

 

Offensive MVP:  I contemplated giving this award to Nick Akins, but since Jake Lemmerman was named the MVP for the entire league, I’m pretty much obligated to give this award to him.  And Lemmerman definitely deserves it with the offensive stats he put up as a shortstop.  The dude his .363 over 259 at bats and finished the season with 12 homers.  He also ranked 1st in the league in runs (69), 1st in doubles (24), 7th in RBI’s (47), 2nd in total bases (158), 3rd in OBP (.434), 3rd in SLG (.610), and 4th in OPS (1.044).  His season reminds me a lot of what Brian Cavazos-Galvez did in the Pioneer League in 2009, but I’m much more impressed with Lemmerman because he is a full year younger than BCG was at this stage, and also because he plays the premium position of shortstop.  Baseball America ended up ranking "Late Night" as the 6th best prospect in the league, and drew comparisons to Mark Grudzielanek and Mark Loretta.

Best Offensive Prospect:  Even though he didn’t have the best stats on the team, Jonathan Garcia was the Raptors best prospect in my opinion.  The 18 year old has a ton of potential, and it’s no secret that he is one of my favorite players in the Dodgers system.  Garcia hit .305 over 239 at bats, smacked 10 homers, and finished with a very strong .892 OPS.  While some might compare his stats as an 18 year old to other players at the same stage in their career in the Pioneer League, or point to his home vs road splits, the fact is that Garcia did exactly what he had to do to prove that he is a legitimate prospect.  I mean can you honestly expect any more out of an 18 year old?  The only thing I wish is that he was a little taller, but if he can continue to perform then I won’t complain.

Pitching MVP:  There were a couple of players I considered for this award, but at the end of the day I had to give it to Shawn Tolleson.  The 2010 30th round pick had absolutely ridiculous stats, as he had a 0.63 ERA and a 0.77 WHIP in 28.2 innings.  Tolleson also struck out 12.24 batters per 9 innings, recorded a FIP of 1.46, had a .175 batting average against, and only walked 5 batters all season.  Finally, his 17 saves lead the league by a significant margin and were a big reason why the Raptors finished as a first place team.

Star-divide

Best Pitching Prospect:  Despite a pretty mediocre season, Garrett Gould was still the best Dodger pitching prospect on this team.  His 4.06 ERA wasn’t overly impressive, but he did post a 3.39 FIP to go along with 8.1 strikeouts per 9 innings.  He doesn’t have an overpowering fastball as he generally sits in the low 90’s, but his value is in his youth (he turned 19 this past July), his size (he’s 6’4") and his very strong curveball.  He has also made good progress in the development of his changeup since getting drafted, and it could turn into another plus secondary pitch.  Baseball America ranked him as the 13th best prospect in the Pioneer League, and said that "Even at reduced velocity, his fastball worked well because he commands it to both sides of the plate and it features plus sink and armside life."  He should be ready for full season ball in 2011, and I see him as a #2 or #3 starter in the future.

 

1st Base:  Blake Dean was the regular 1st baseman for the Raptors, and he put together a pretty good season at the plate by most standards.  However, as a 22 year old at a power position in the hitter friendly Pioneer League, U would actually argue that he under-performed.  He had a .302 average with a .819 OPS, but his 5 homers were Loney-esque.  The only area that he really excelled was his walk to strikeout ratio, as Dean walked almost twice as much as he struck out.  In fact, his 1.87 BB/K ratio is one of the highest I’ve seen.  Overall, despite a fine season, Dean doesn’t seem like much of a prospect to me.

 

2nd Base:  Casio Grider got the majority of starts and 2nd base for Ogden, and held his own in the powerful Raptor lineup.  While his name was rarely mentioned in the 2010 minor league reports, Grider hit a respectable .281 and managed to slug 4 homers.  He also led the team with 22 stolen bases.  Not everything was positive for Grider in 2010, however, as he committed a team high 23 errors, and had a terrible walk to strikeout ratio.

Pedro Guerrero was the other 2nd baseman for the Raptors, although he also spent time in LoA and even AAA in 2010.  Even though Guerrero had an overall terrible season at the plate, he remains on the Dodgers’ radar as he was invited to participate in the instructional league. 

 

3rd Base:  Jessie Bosnik, who primarily played shortstop in college, was the main 3rd baseman for the Raptors.  In looking at his stats, he still needs some work at his new position as he posted a .887 fielding percentage.  He also needs some work at the plate as the 2010 13th round pick hit just .253 for the season.  If he’s going to continue playing 3rd base, he’s going to have to hit a little bit more in the future. 

Chris Henderson was the other guy who spent some time at 3rd base, although he also frequented 1st base and started some games at DH.  The former catcher from George Mason didn’t show much power in 2010, but he posted a remarkable OBP of .429 for the season.  He also hit .341 and walked almost as much as he struck out. 

 

Shortstop:  Jake Lemmerman started almost every game at shortstop, and as I discussed above he had a great season.  Nobody else really spent a significant amount of time at this position.

 

Catcher:  Michael Pericht started off the season on fire and he hit all 9 of his homers before the end of July.  He came back down to earth as the season progressed, however, and ended the year with a .278 average.  Despite his 2nd half struggles, the 6’5" Pericht was able to establish himself as a power hitting catcher who has at least some potential.  It will be interesting to see what the 22 year old does in a full season in 2011.

Steve Domecus also played quite a bit of catcher, but he was just OK as a hitter.  The 2010 9th round pick is already 23 years old, and hit just .252 in 131 at bats.  With the prospect depth at the catcher position being pretty weak, however, Domecus is still a relatively important player in the Dodgers system.   

Joseph Lincoln and Pedro Tavarez also spent a few games behind the plate, but neither guy did anything of significance.

 

Outfield:  The Raptors outfield was probably one of the best in short-season baseball in terms of offensive performance.  2010 3rd round pick Leon Landry was the sparkplug in centerfield, as he also served as the team’s leadoff hitter.  Landry posted strong stats in almost every offensive category, hitting .349 with a .909 OPS, while stealing 13 bases and hitting 4 homers.  During the season, he was compared to Andres Torres by the Raptors Radio broadcaster, and after the year he was ranked as the 4th best prospect in the league by Baseball America.

Jonathan Garcia was the team’s right fielder, and as mentioned above he had a strong season while doubling as the team’s best offensive prospect. 

Left fiend was manned by Nick Akins, who put up outstanding offensive numbers.  Akins led the league with 15 homers in just 177 at bats, and ranked 2nd with his 1.060 OPS.  His Isolated Power (ISOP) of .334 was also extremely impressive.  The 22 year old, who has been compared to Manny Ramirez in terms of defense and attitude, won’t be able to play anywhere but left field because he doesn’t have the arm or speed to play any other outfield position.  It will be interesting to see what he does in a full season league in 2011.

Southern California native Robert Coyle played all three outfield positions, and ended up leading the team with 52 RBI’s.  The 21 year old lefty, who was drafted in the 10 round of the 2010 draft, also finished the season with .316 average in 237 at bats.  He is a wild card for next year as he can burst on to the prospect radar with another strong season.

 

Starting Pitchers:  The 2010 Raptors rotation was pretty strong.  Red Patterson was the one pitcher who was in the rotation from start to finish, making a team high 14 starts and accumulating a 3.33 ERA in 67.2 innings.  The 23 year old Patterson struck out almost a batter per inning, and recorded a 3.42 FIP.  Unfortunately he might be a little bit too old to ever make an impact with the Dodgers.

Garrett Gould made the 2nd most starts on the team, and I talked about him above.

Greg Wilborn was a mainstay in the Raptors rotation until his promotion to Lo-A.  Wilborn posted a 2.06 ERA during his time with Ogden, and stuck out over 12 batters per inning.  He also was undefeated in 4 decisions, and had a phenomenal FIP of 1.81.  The lefty features a slider, curveball, and changeup, and can get his fastball up to 94 mph.

Carlos Frias and Antonio Castillo both started the season in the Raptors rotation, but both struggled and were moved to the bullpen before the year was up.  Arismendy Ozoria took over for one of these spots in the rotation late in the season, but he struggled in 31.2 innings after dominating the Arizona League.

 

Relief Pitchers:  The closer for the Raptors, Shawn Tolleson, was discussed above.  Besides Tolleson, there were several other players who made significant contributions to the Raptors bullpen.  Andrew Pevsner and Logan Bawcom, who were born less than a month apart, were drafted in back to back rounds in 2010, and threw almost the same number of innings in 2010, both had pretty good seasons.  Both players also struck out more than a batter per inning, and even though Pevsner had a much better ERA than Bawcom (1.91 vs 4.28), Pevsner’s FIP was actually 4.27 compared to Bawcom’s FIP of 3.86. 

Jake McCarter was another guy who had a solid season for the Raptors out of the pen, as he posted a 3.38 ERA and stuck out more than 11 batters per inning.  The big negative for McCarter, however, is that he is already 26 years old. 

Pete Budkevics, who was signed as a non-drafted free agent this past June, surprised a lot of people by recording strong stats in 40 innings.  The soon to be 23 year old had a 3.38 ERA and was yet another guy who struck out more than a batter per inning.  He also proved to be very versatile as he made 5 starts during the season. 

J.J. Whetsel and Ricardo Rivas were also non-drafted player in the Raptors bullpen, but neither were able to find the same success that Budkevics did.  Whetsel had a 7.75 ERA in 33.2 innings, while Rivas’ ERA was even worst at 10.29.  Both also had a WHIP of around 2.

Bret Montgomery is a local boy who was the Dodgers 46th round pick in 2010.  He’s a big guy at 6’6" and 250 lbs, but he is already 25 years old.  He was both a starter and reliever for the Raptors, and there was quite a difference between his ERA (4.99) and FIP (2.51) for the season.

Raul Burgos, who was another member of the Raptors bullpen, was acquired by the Dodgers in the minor league version of the 2009 Rule 5 draft.  While his ERA was 4.74, his FIP was 2.91 and he only allowed 1 homer all season. 

I had pretty high hopes for Luis Ferreras heading into the season since he posted a 2.50 ERA in the Pioneer League in 2009.  Ferreras saw his ERA more than double in 2010, however, and only struck out 6.7 batters per 9 innings.  He also is now listed at just 5’9", which is significantly different from the 6’0" he boasted last season.

Nick Gaudi posted pretty good stats in 18 innings out of the Raptors bullpen.  His ERA was 3.00, his FIP was 2.87, and he struck out 11.5 batters per 9 innings.  Gaudi also spent some time in the Midwest League, but the real question is why the 24 year old was playing in a rookie league?

Finally, Ji-Mo Lee only threw 13.1 innings for the Raptors, but he is worth mentioning because his ERA was 1.35 and his WHIP was 0.90.  The bad news for Lee is that he had an extremely low strikeout rate, and that in he missed a lot of the season due to injury.

Poll
Who was the best prospect to play for the Raptors in 2010?
Jake Lemmerman
49 votes
Jonathan Garcia
32 votes
Nick Akins
6 votes
Leon Landry
15 votes
Garrett Gould
12 votes
Greg Wilborn
3 votes
Shawn Tolleson
55 votes
Other
2 votes

174 votes | Poll has closed

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Casio Grider

has stolen 44 bases while being caught only 8 times in his two professional seasons. Both seasons he stole exactly 22 bases in short season ball.

Last year the Arizona team had a ridiculously high stolen base rate, was that the case this year as well, and how did those who stole bases in Arizona last year do when they got promoted in 2010? (like Grider).

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah last year the Arizona SB rate was really high

the 2009 team went 79 for 93. This year, it was much different as only James Baldwin had a great SB (17 for 20) as the team as a whole went 65 for 92.

The other main SB guys from the 2009 Arizona team were Stetson Banks and Ramon Jean, neither of whom had good SB rates at all in 2010

by Brandon Lennox on Oct 12, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some really intriguing prospects here

Lemmerman, Landry, Garcia, Tolleson, Wilborn, and Gould still intrigues even if disappointing… A lot of promise here.

Question: How much is pitching in that league, or at least in Ogden affected by the location? Being at a higher elevation and dryer climate, that is. Just curious.

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

This is definitly a hitter's league...

with Ogden being one of the most friendly hitter’s parks in the league. that’s what makes a few of the pitcher’s performances even more impressive (Tolleson), and what kind of discounts some of the offensive numbers on this team

by Brandon Lennox on Oct 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool thx, about what I assumed, just wondering.

We really need to see these guys at the next level (the next two levels really) to get a better sense of what we have…

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pioneer over achievers

tend to disappoint, ala Ruggiano. I wouldn’t put much stock into what any of these guys did in the Pioneer league as far as the numbers go. When it comes to this league I’m more interested in the scouting reports then the stats.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ogden Home/Away Splits

Name: Home OPS / Away OPS (min: 150 AB)

Akins: 1.175 / .950
Lemmerman: 1.161 / .937
Garcia: 1.038 / .704
Henderson: 1.032 / .717
Dean: .915 / .722
Coyle: .900 / .689
Grider: .864 / .584

Exceptions:

Landry: .878 / .945
Pericht: .823 / .837
Bosnik: .768 / .702

by Sean P. on Oct 12, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

This is why I’m spending 5.99 next season to watch the Loons:

Lee
Gould
Late night
Akins

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to put Lemmerman and Akins on the list of guys with huge splits. Even though their OPS varies by the same amount as some of the others, it was still over .900(0).

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't think it was intended as a "huge split" list

Isn’t the entire list essentially the main batters mentioned in the article? Then the split is just home>away and away>home.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pedro Guerrero has to make the Dodgers eventually, right?

It’s destiny.

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

He's going to get traded to Cleveland

for Bruce Ellingsen.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The comments by the scouts on Garcia

has to level some of the enthusiasm for him. If Lemmerman can actually play SS, he’s my choice for the best prospect on the team. Given the doubts about Garcia, he’s going to have to prove he can hit advanced pitching before I give him that respect.

Gould sounds like Ely.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I was wondering that about Late Night

How does his glove look Brandon?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

yuk yuk yuk

now tell us why the state of Ohio is different.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard different reports on his defense

In BA’s top 20, they said “Lemmerman has soft, sure hands to go with average arm strength that seems to make him better suited for second base in the long run. An average runner, he makes the routine play and turns the double play well.”

However, when he was drafted I read many places that he was an above average defender who would have no problem as SS in the big leagues

by Brandon Lennox on Oct 12, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I voted for Lemmerman on the basis he plays SS. If he plays SS throughout, he is a nice prospect. Those offensive numbers do seem a little inflated though.

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Brandon Webb only throw like 90-91? I think he could pump it up once in awhile, but I think the difference between Gould and Ely is that Ely is almost a Trevor Hoffman in that he throws his changeup and fastball straight on the same plane and relies on speed variation for the deception. Whereas this says Gould has good location and movement to go with potentially two pitches. Ely’s curveball is essentially a gravity ball.

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gould sounds like Ely.

I hope he grows into a little more velocity. Ely sits more like 87 rather than 90-91, though, doesn’t he?

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, i forget

is Gould a lefty?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately not

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, i see

I guess if he was, the fretting over his low velo would be less.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Video clip from nearly a year before he was drafted. There is something Ely-like in that delivery, as well as the socks.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lemmerman was drafted in the 5th round out of college in 2010

Should I temper my excitement? Leon Landry was drafted in the 3rd round of that draft. Given that the Pioneer is more-or-less small sample size by definition, I’m guessing the Dodger brass still ranks Landry above Late Night Lemmerman in their collective minds.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Though frankly not as brilliant as FJM of course...

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great site. Been around for a few years. The Peter King breakdowns is great. The weekly mailbag is insane (in a funny way.)

Very outrageous humor. Very NSFW website.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed: "OT: New - to me - site is the..."

Cool and yeah very very NSFW text…

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

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theres no boobies, just cursing

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy from Quintzee kills me.

The old Pacman Jones stuff was funny too.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was a fan of the Leinert stuff

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Lemmerman

will develop into one of those pain in the ass players that will piss off the rest of the division for years to come.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Gould

His 4.06 ERA wasn’t overly impressive, but he did post a 3.39 FIP to go along with 8.1 strikeouts per 9 innings.

First Inning has his FIP at 4.45.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Less impressive

is his reported velocity. We will probably be calling him Fools Gould before to long.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check Fangraphs

They have the same FIP that I do, and I calculate my own FIP using the real fomula with a 3.2 park factor.

And that report yesterday about his continued lower velocity is dissapointing, however we still have to realize how young he is. In looking at his facebook pictures (yes I am his friend on facebook), he is just your average teenager who is still growing and maturing. He’s a goofy kid who has plenty of time to grow up and increase velocity. He’s barely 19, and would only be a sophomore in college this year, so I’m def willining to give him some time.

by Brandon Lennox on Oct 12, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Intersting. I wonder what First Inning is doing differently, but I’ll start looking at fangraphs going forward.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I reported that several days ago

not sure what it means, since he did say he’s collecting data. Maybe he’s simply going on hiatus and doing something with his life but plans to come back since he’s still collecting data.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

there was a fanpost on Sickels site

and the consensious was something with MLB agreements

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Oct 13, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil, You Read The BA Pioneer Top 20 Report on Gould

90-91 MPH, at times slipping to 88-89. That is significantly better than Ely, and since Gould is only 18, there is projectability remaining. I think you are over-reacting to the Keith Law stuff. Who cares what Gould is doing now that the season is over? There is no point going all-out NOW. Same story with Elbert’s velocity. We know what Elbert’s velocity is in games that actually count, and that is not his problem. Throwing strikes is his problem, and until that changes his velocity is irrelevant.

by CanuckDodger on Oct 12, 2010 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Elbert never threw as hard in the major leagues as I was led to believe

He has averaged 92.5 every time he’s sniffed the majors and that has been strictly as a relief pitcher.

Ely hit between 86- 89 and touched 90 once in a while this year. Average speed of 87.4. Right handed pitchers who can’t hit 90 consistently at age 19 don’t do much for me until they can prove something above rookie ball. You can rank him where you want but he won’t be in my top ten. This isn’t just Law, his velocity has been reported to be down all summer. Given how Logan’s pitching prospects have stalled these days, these guys have to prove to me they are going places before I just hand over the keys.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gould laid low during part of the season with arm stiffness and again with a pulled back muscle. It’s not surprising to see a midwestern h.s. pitcher who isn’t used to year-round baseball feel a few growing pains and velocity issues getting used to the daily grind of pro ball. His curve continues to be a plus pitch for him and he is making progress with his change. Even through all this, he was still consistent with a 90-91 fb – hitting 92 or 93 on occasion and I think he’s on track, as long as he can continue to work through and overcome the small ailments.

by dodgerm on Oct 13, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

not sure if I had heard about the pulled back muscle before.

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by David Young on Oct 13, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

he had good innings and bad innings where his stuff seemed very hittable. Braves had some good knocks on him at times but are also pretty offensively incompetent and rarely took advantage. He handled himself pretty well out there for a rook pitching under pressure, but his stuff wasn’t super impressive to me… just mho.

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then again

with Heyward fighting whiplash, Chipper out, Prado out, Lee and Glaus old and creaky, McCann might have been the only real hitter on the team.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol
Rawitch also said season-ticket holders paying more in 2011 will be offered gifts such as tickets in lower levels and passes to the stadium club that are worth nearly as much as the difference in cost. .

Here, have some free tickets in Loge 168 where you need binoculars to see anything. Here, take this stadium club pass, this will allow you to go and spend even more money in our overpriced restaurant that only has 2 waiters.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the gem that will be sure to piss off season ticket holders

who have been hanging onto that first row forever.

The Dodgers also will charge a premium for the first row of every section. (A front-row seat in the field box section will cost $50 per game for a season-ticket holder, up from $40 this year.) In the left-field pavilion, the first four rows will be categorized as premium seats.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta love this logic
Rawitch said the Dodgers believe that the no-show rate in the top deck was double what it was in the rest of the park because the low prices of season tickets made them attractive to buyers who had no intention of attending most games. The team hopes the change in price will result in a larger walk-up crowd.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

and when the dodgers are out of it in august again, the top deck will not only be empty, it will also be unpaid for!

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped buying my tickets in the Top Deck because the price went from $48 for 12 tickets to $120 for 15 tickets. It was simple math for me, and I didn’t feel like helping the McCourts out this year.

by robotmadeofnails on Oct 12, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but the front row has the most uncomfortable seats. still sucks for those who like it.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

i would never in a million years want to sit front row top deck. or reserve.

who ever came up with this definitely has never sat up there

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sat in the second row for 4 years, and the fat guys in front of me struggled terribly

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love front row

and don’t know what you mean by uncomfortable. Unless you are talking the field boxes where I have never sat in the front row.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Top deck front row has half the legroom. I try to avoid it.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

I haven’t been in top deck for about 35 years. I love the Loge Front Row, especially the ones with the padded seats.

Course the front row of the Press Box is kind of nice:)

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me go on the record

I do not care who Brett sends pictures of his junk to.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

No shit

how is this even a bloody story, other then between his wife, and the girl he sent them to.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tiger Woods called and told me to rec this.

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any other profession would just shitcan the guy immediately, so instead we get long stupid press conferences.

Really after years of Brett Favre fellatio, I’m down for a few days of Favre bad man.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

wait

were you GIVING or RECEIVING?

re: Favre fellatio

(i guess it doesn’t even matter, either way: ew)

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean demonization ad infinitum. The woman probably asked him to do it or the 50 or so athletes who had done it previously told how much she likes it.

by Salty on Oct 13, 2010 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

So your immediate reaction is to question the integrity of the alleged victim?

You wouldn’t happen to be a sleazy criminal defense lawyer would you?

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by David Young on Oct 13, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was supposed to be

“alleged victims” (plural). There were three. And yes, harassment is something one is a victim of.

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by David Young on Oct 13, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Harassment is defined. Its unknown whether the definition is met. I guess you’d call him a victim if he received a twat shot even if it was solicitied. PC BS.

by Salty on Oct 15, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sure wouldn’t make a bunch of assumptions that you do. And WTF are you talking about a victim for?

by Salty on Oct 15, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It should be an internal matter

but if she was an employee of the team/nfl, that could be sexual harrasment and he should probably be punished for that, but I haven’t been following the story closely enough to know whats going on.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since Favre, Sterger and the two massage therapists were all Jets employees, and since he apparently was using other Jets employees as go-betweens, the team certainly is involved, and that in turn brings in the league.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its a story because Favre is trying to stonewall on this.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a story for the reason reg says. There are plenty of people who would love to take down Farve after years of the media blowing him.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has already taken himself down with his actions the last 4 years.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be a story

with any star sports player.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or any marginally good one

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also because sending unsolicited pictures of your wiener to coworkers is bad.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Psh

women.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry

cock shots don’t really do it for me

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not even favres?!

But he is the most amazingly ruggedly awesomest dude! The wrangler commercials and ESPN told me so it must be true!

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is the allegation from the three women

Do you have a link to something that says otherwise?

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by David Young on Oct 13, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except its the same company doing the ‘taking down’ that does the hand jobs. It wasn’t a big story until ESPN set its sights on it.

If Farve really wanted to end this, he’d a ESPN 1 hour special at a Boys and Girls club in New Jersey to announce he’s taking his talent to South Beach.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good writeup

I really hope Lemmerman sticks at short. Furcal leaves, we suffer through two years of Orlando Cabrera (since, of course, Dee Gordon ain’t gonna make it), and then Late Night takes over for half a decade.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Dee Gordon still has a better shot of being a major league SS then Late Night

one guy can actually hit in AA, the only thing we know about Late Night is that he kicked the Pioneer League ass, just as Pedroza did in 2007 as a SS at a younger age.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon still has a better shot of being a major league SS then Late Night

In reality, yes. But not in my heart!

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kim Ng

Why is every team bypassing her for an interview? It wasn’t that long ago that she was a top GM prospect. What gives, besides the usual minority/gender stuff?

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

They found better black candidiates

to meet the minority requirements and now don’t have to give her an interview?

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

FYI

The Pheonix Desert Dogs (Team where Dodgers prospects are in) will play at 12:35 today.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

This might be too much to ask, but is the game broadcast on radio, and is that broadcast available via web?

I have low expectations, but thought I’d ask.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering

that only about 100 people will be at the game and 50 of them will be scouts I doubt very much it is on the radio.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

White's interview with the Mets: not for the GM job

Daily News reports that they want him as their scouting director under (probably) Alderson:
http://bit.ly/9R0bqd

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

And the other shoe drops.

DAMN!!!

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would not be that surprising if he (or anyone) left, the McCourt drama is not good for any employees, too much uncertainty.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good thing Ned made sure to sign a 4 year contract. No matter what, he’s set for retirement.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even better. If and When the ownership change comes. (Can Frank McCourt really run the team without outside sources of money that will demand some ownership control?) Ned is probably out.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If there’s any other team that spends less on the draft, its probably the Mets.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does White have a family? If so, are they here in LA?

Picking up and moving across the country in a lateral career move is a tough thing to do.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not if they pay you more.

Also, to answer your question.

White, his wife Deena and son, Logan, Jr., reside in Phoenix, AZ.

http://mlb.mlb.com/la/community/executives/white.html

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

even if they pay you more, it’s tough on kids. Just sayin.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right. More pay can make a lot of tough choices less tough.

Also, if they’re located in Phoenix… I mean, LA is closer to Phoenix than NY is, but from my point of view, when Bride is out of town, she could be in San Diego or Ulan Bator and it wouldn’t matter. Out of town is out of town.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

but he probably spends

a lot of time in Az with the training site…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Oct 13, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So this puts a different spin on things doesn't it?

One thing to let your employee’s interview for a job like GM, but it is quite another to let them interview for a lateral move unless you simply hope they leave.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

What was the line Duncan was told? Something like “we might find something for you here, but hey, if you find a better gig elsewhere by all means, go for it.”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Jackson said White’s contract runs out 10/31. So he’ll just leave if need be.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure its one of those ‘running’ contracts that renews on a given date.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logan White has agreed to new deal with #Dodgers; will return as assistant GM if he doesn’t get #Mets GM job: http://tinyurl.com/2dbc27q

According to Dylan Hernadez on twitter

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s with all the hedging bets deals!

First with Wallach, and now with White. :)

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good news.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The same three

White, Ng, and DeJon Watson.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily they have a slew

of assistants to the assistant GM’s to help them.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

There are currently nine special assistants:

Special Assistant to the GM
    Mark Weidemaier
Special Assistant to the GM
    Toney Howell
Special Assistant to the GM
    Lee Elia
Special Assistant to the GM
    Rick Ragazzo
Special Assistant to the GM
    Ken Bracey
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Bill Mueller
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Jose Vizcaino
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Mark Sweeney
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Aaron Sele
Plus a Special Advisor (higher title)
Director of Pro Scouting, Special Advisor to the GM
    Vance Lovelace

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Bill Mueller
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Jose Vizcaino
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Mark Sweeney
Special Assistant, Baseball Operations and Player Development
    Aaron Sele

You gotta be kidding me. I don’t know which of these is the worst.

Wait, that’s a lie. Yes, I do. Sweeney! Special Assistant, Forgetting the Number of Outs in a Ballgame!

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we sure that Sweeney is still on the Dodger payroll?

Wikipedia has this:

For the 2010 season, Sweeney works as a baseball correspondent for the Fox News outlet in San Diego.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Took that list right off the Dodger website

Maybe he does both. “baseball correspondent for the Fox News outlet in San Diego” sounds doesn’t sound like a time-consuming endeavor.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Sweeney several times throughout the season at Dodger Stadium

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what the fallout was. Guys like Elbert and Withrow not performing? Ned Colletti not able to make big trades with the players White drafted? The Jacksonville 5 not producing?

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too many chefs in the kitchen?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do we know for certain that there was a fallout? If it is in fact the GM position, as Eric indicates the NY Post claims, well, he’s gotta go for it.

If it’s scouting director, though, that is a very, very bad sign, I agree.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Based on what Dylan just tweeted

it looks like there was no fallout and Jon Weisman was right after all.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was the rumors a few weeks back. But with White resigning, I guess no fallout.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should be put hyphen between “re” and “signing.”

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe TJax was right, and the “sources” got their LA teams confused. Good news at any rate.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t buy that for a second. If anything, that kind of mix-up makes me never want to believe anything those sources ever have to say. Which, in the end, might be the best policy anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m swearing off the NY Daily News for awhile ;-)

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Mets job just would seem to be more of a

Sandy Alderson clean up the org kind of job, especially when you also have to hire a manager.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sandy is a old man. He’d only be there for a couple of years.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Today's news puts the kibosh on what I'm about to say

but that could have been an interesting way of looking at it… White might have left to become the Mets’ scouting director with a clause in his contract that he becomes GM by 201X….

Obviously that’s not happening, but I suppose it could have.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now that would have made sense

learning under Sandy for a years would be good for anyone.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quit my job yesterday

Got a new gig at Kaiser Permanente

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

for real?

grats!

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was a long slog

KP moves pretty slow, but I’m really excited. It’s an IT manager over their CA warehouse and pharma applications

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you need an entry level Help Desk support specialist? :)

by robotmadeofnails on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope it wasn’t my comment on newspapers’ future ;-)

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Naw

been working on this for awhile

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

where are you working out of?

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Downey

But I’ll be going up to No Cal a couple times a month. They have two warehouse up there in Livermore and Pleasenton. Where ever those are

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

inland East bay

SoCal equivalent of Canyon Country? or inland empire?

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have many pleasant

memories of a holiday inn express there.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

get your mind out of the gutter

it is where we used to stay in the glory days of the raiders in the rich gannon era when we would go up for games.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Livermore is by SF and has a giant lazer. Second to the one in Rochester, NY. :D

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pleasanton is nice. Congrats on the job.

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pleasanton is nicepleasant.

FTFY

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not that pleasant, so I didn’t take the easy route. It’s no Pleasantville.

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Eric

and Thanks everyone for their nice wishes

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

and fuck Ruiz

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I said last night on Facebook

I’ll be rooting for the Phillies, but not Ruiz. I hate that guy.

Beat the Giants, yes, but fuck you, Ruiz.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

i like this plan

i will combine it with my “ya fuckers” plan.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to respond

to that post with “Fuck you, Ruiz” but it didn’t seem appropriate. :(

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too many parents and co-workers on Facebook.

I appreciate the discretion. However, feel free in the future to subsitute a milder epithet: Screw You, Ruiz would have been fine.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured as much

My dad’s on my facebook, I try to keep it limited to stuff that I wouldn’t mind him knowing. Of course, I’m very open with him — and he’s very open in general, I think some of you have seen that — but yeah. I totally understand. :)

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It took me three days to accept my parents request, only because I wasn’t sure I wanted to let them into that kind of world of humor with me…and I was afraid there annoying friends would try to add me as friends. I know, I am a jerk

by robotmadeofnails on Oct 12, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have an agreement with my Dad that we’ll never become Facebook friends. I don’t think either of us want to know what the other is really up to.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

my mom ASKED me (in person) if she could friend me, said it didn't matter either way

but she said my sister wouldnt friend her so I said “no problem!” just to spite my sister and be the better child. then my sister added her too haha.

my updates arent too crazy or anything

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mom thinks people her age should stay away from facebook

I find her view refreshing, especially since I would never friend her.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

i avoid this problem

by avoiding facebook

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

you and me brother

just email me if you want to see pictures of the tree stump in my backyard – or want to know what I ordered off of the menu at Taco Bell last Saturday.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

meercatjohn however, is a class act.

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

should keep you in fine tequila for some time to come!

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

you happy with the location too?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it will be too bad. It’s 8 miles longer than my current commute. It seems to be against traffic too.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats

Big Health should have a better future than newspapers.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool.

My sister works for them in Portland.

by Joey Joe on Oct 12, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth on landry/lemmerman

Yesterday’s ASK BA at BaseballAmerica.com has a question comparing Reds prospect, .Yorman Rodriguez to Bryce Harper. Jim Callis, the answer-man, swats that down a bit, but he does offer strong love for Rodriguez:
“Rodriguez is a talented and precocious prospect. We ranked him as the fifth-best prospect on our Pioneer League Top 20, noting his five-tool potential. He has a quick bat and plus raw power, speed and arm strength.”
I bring it up only because BA rated Landry at no. 4 and Lemmerman at no. 6….
Not saying that means much, but thought it was worth mentioning…. A Bic Flick of optimism in an otherwise midnight black closet of Dodger gloom…

by immouch on Oct 12, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

everytime I hear "Landry"

I think FNL.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always think of

<img src=“http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00hK5wp88h1NI/610×.jpg”/=200>

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

crap

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00hK5wp88h1NI/610×.jpg

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

but then I think of

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean much when Yorman was born in 1992, while Late Night and Landry are both 3 years older.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really doubt he needs money. I think he’s trying to capitalize on the fact the Zoolander didn’t do much in theaters, but was huge on DVD and carved out a place in popular culture.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's inevitable

Just like Little Fockers was.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Meet the Fockers was terrible.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's funny

because it sounds like “fucker.” ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't like it

more because of Deniro’s character. They just took it too far.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

All playing the same role.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You never go full retard!

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Little subtle nuances of difference

but he knows where his bread is buttered. He doesn’t need to paint with his left foot.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

ReallY?

Every single one? Including Dodge Ball?

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or uh

zoolander?

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay. Fine. 3 roles. Every villain he plays is the same guy. Every normal person role is the same guy.

I admit, Zoolander is a different character. But it would almost have to be. I guess I should applaud Stiller for recognizing that.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

So he is like most other comedic actors. Seth Rogan, Adam Sandler, Steve Carrel.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

The difference between Stiller's characters in Zoolander and Tropic Thunder

is like the difference between Blue Steel and Ferrari.

Blue Steel


Ferrari

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If someone else wants to write a post about this, I am going into a meeting

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least it ends the “White about to be fired, etc.” trope. He’s back unless the Mets hire him, and I still bet they take Alderson. Wilpon needs a ‘star’ Mets fans have heard of.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll sum up some thoughts here

1. All kidding aside, the ramifications of a sexual harassment issue are quite serious not only for the parties involved but for the organization, as there are financial penalties and also opening up to more and more litigation, I hope the attitudes expressed here are more tongue in cheek than in reality unless you would feel comfortable if someone sent unwanted texts and pictures to someone you cared about.

2. Ticket prices going up is never a good idea in a down period but I will note that as someone who paid attention to the secondary market, even up to the end September, the tickets that sold the best in my section of Infield Reserve was the front row, often at a price where the person selling them was making a profit. And I am guessing that amount of season ticket/mini plan holders that will drop the top deck will be mitigated by walk up sales of people who will actually go to games.

3.Congrats Marty, I know you have been working at this for a while, all the best.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Reposting something just for the discussion and it might fit

since we are talking about Logan White, while I am not sure how much impact he would have on scouting and development as a GM (opposed to someone who runs that part of the program), his record is does speak for itself, with its highs and lows being accounted for.

BA tidbit

While as kinbote said on the previous thread that the Dodgers do not have very many (or any) top ranked players in BA’s 2010 Top 20 League lists, they do have a deep pool of players.

Dodgers tied for 3rd for most players on BA Top 20 League Prospects list
Rangers 18
Rays 15
Dodgers 14
Mariners 14
Red Sox 14
Rockies 14
Yankees 14
Blue Jays 13
Royals 12
Angels 11
Braves 11
Diamondbacks 11
Giants 11
Padres 11
Phillies 10
Pirates 10
Reds 10
Astros 9
Twins 8
White Sox 8
Mets 7
Brewers 6
Cubs 6
Indians 6
Marlins 6
Tigers 6
Cardinals 5
Nationals 5
Athletics 4
Orioles 4

It’s not a perfect way to evaluate a farm system, but there’s a correlation between the number of Top 20 Prospects and the strength of an organization. Most of the leaders on that list are going to rank near the top of our offseason farm system ratings.

Dodger prospects breakdown by Draft Class

2010 – 4 (Cash, Landry, Baldwin, Lemmerman)
2009 – 2 (Miller, Gould)
2008 – 5 (Martin, Russell, Gordon, Webster, Sands)
2007 – 1 (Withrow)
2005 – 1 (Robinson)
Dominican Signee – 2007 (De la Rosa)

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Good info, thanks for posting this.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not a perfect way to evaluate a farm system, but there’s a correlation between the number of Top 20 Prospects and the strength of an organization.

You all know way more about prospects than I do, but is this true? Is it better to have a plethora of second-tier prospects but none that are a cut above, or very-few-but-truly-great prospects followed by roster filler? Which would you rather have?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its probably better to have the first than the second. MLB is extremely tough to break into, so the more talent you have the better.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially when you have a GM like Ned

Who would likely just trade the few blue chips you do have.

by BFDC on Oct 12, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

There some correlation, but in the Dodgers case, it means that our #14 prospect could kick the ass of someone elses #14 prospect.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is like saying Jamey Carroll is the best reserve infielder in baseball.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

So would it be accurate to say that the Dodgers’ deep system has several guys who could help the next great Dodger team in supporting roles, but not the kind of guys who can lead that team? Or would you not put it that way?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s about right. Years of hearing hype about Xavier Paul and Delwyn Young means I’m kinda numb to C+ prospects. Sure they won’t hurt you, but when you can just spend an extra 400K and replace them with Reed Johnson, it’s not something that will lead to winning.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forget which review I saw yesterday

but one outfield prospect (not a Dodger) was called a “Reed Johnson” type.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dates girls like

Lexi Belle?

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's dating

a softcore porn star

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he's at A-ball or above

otherwise, just a stripper.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a lot of hype about XPaul and D Young?

I don’t remember hype. I remember a lot of people at least here thinking, I like those guys, I bet they’ll be good 4th OFers/backups/pinch hitters.

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

Though I ’m not sure why Xavier Paul has become such a hole around here based on that SSS.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still in his corner!

but it seems a small corner these days…

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re fine as 4th/5th outfielders or whatever, but does it really matter?

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s like saying you’re the smartest kid with Down Syndrome

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s from Waiting. Ryan Reynolds/Justin Long flick

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by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

What strange system is this for a “Top 20”? If you add up all those numbers from each team, it surely comes to a “Top 200” or so. It looks like more than 100, anyway. Is there a Top 20 for each position, or what? (And what do they do for pitchers? How many = 20 there?)

by berkowit28 on Oct 12, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a top 20 per league in the minors.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT: travel ideas?

I’m thinking of taking December off for some traveling before I start my new job. It’ll primarily be a solo trip as nobody can take that much time off. In need of ideas for places to go. I’ve already been to Europe, unless Ireland or Scotland. Where I can easily travel alone, or suggestions on a good travel/tour company?

ideas?

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Taiwan will touch your heart

Mexico will kidnap it and hold it for ransom

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah - good joke.

I’ve spent many a December in Taiwan. Cold and damp in the capitol. A little nicer in the south. Philippines will have your nicest weather in the area.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jamaica was fun

when went there for my brother’s wedding

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

South America has a lot of options. Rio is incredible, Buenos Aires is fantastic, and there are a million placed inbetween.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Until you get caught with drugs and spend the rest of your life in a prison camp. Yeah, I saw that movie.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I had a month

I’d consider Australia. It’s summer then too

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

i thought about australia. I have family there. Parents there now for family reunion. but it’s so expensive to travel in between.

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Paris very cold in December?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

also pretty cold in December :)

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paris

In the last few years, Paris was colder than before with sevreral snow…
And they schedule the same thing this year…

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by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jojo are you in Paris?

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm living not too far from Paris like 10 miles...

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by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Paris in 2007

and it snowed. We didn’t pack for that occurrence, at all.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Paris cold is a totally different cold i’ve ever felt.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

:p

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by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too! I was recently in Paris & Rome last year, and Costa Rica/Panama.

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you like with French??

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like that it rained in Paris when I was there.

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

It has rained all the time… :S

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by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice is always warmer than Paris every time...

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by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lebron James joke

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Winter league baseball

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Snoop lives in Claremont…. but a trip to the LBC is still a great idea.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ireland and Scotland are both great.

I lived in Dublin for 6 months and getting around Ireland wasn’t too expensive, either.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

the guinness stew is amazing, obviously. I tried to avoid stereotypical Irish fare and cooked myself lots of pasta because I was poor.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Guinness Stew is so amazing that you can just throw all the ingredients in a pressure cooker, press “stew” and it comes out okay.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

I’m doing that this Friday

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as you’re actually prepping stuff

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I believe things will be chopped

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re already ahead of the game. Get some browning in their and brother, you’ve got a stew going.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, the meat will be browned, my friend. it shall be done. It’s for Will, too. I’m going to hold on to the 2nd best status, dangit!

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

But first best at making Guinness stew.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a friendly suggestion re browning the meat

Make sure the meat is at room temperature and as patted dry as can be. Also, brown in batches so you don’t overcrowd the pan (which also cools off the cooking surface).

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ireland’s at the top of our list. But in December won’t it get dark at about 3 PM. I still remember my cabbie in Edinburgh talking about how he wanted to slit his throat every winter.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's probably true

and that’s if you can see the sun, as it is mostly overcast and/or raining anyway. :)

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Korea is supposed to be really cheap.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially North Korea.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll like it so much, you’ll never leave.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

until a former US President comes and gets you.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehe – I think Carter just rescued some dude. I say we leave em there. If you hike into N.Korea or Iran then tough poopies.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’ll be too cold in December, but next time you travel in the summer, have you been to Norway and Sweden? Some of my favorite parts of the trip Bride and I took. Especially the Lofoten Islands, up above the arctic circle in Norway.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d go back to Denmark in a heartbeat.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

everyone that I’ve talked to that has been there has ABSOLUTELY loved it.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do be mindful

about the culture and how it might be for a woman traveling on her own there.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um, I am?

and several of my friends who have been there are women and traveled on their own. I assume that if a woman is asking about the Middle East, she’s at aware that there might be a slightly more conservative way to comport herself then say, Miami.

Egypt is much more liberal than say…Saudi Arabia, anyway.

DodgerSF — I’ve also heard amazing things about Turkey.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

More liberal then Saudi Arabia. You can only say that of about 180 countries or so.

Turkey is the destination I NEED to go to. I plan on going in May.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know a guy in mississippi

that designs bullets. we went there for 4 months to teach this company how to make them. He loved it there. “the girls are all so skinny, cause they got no money to eat.” (imagine that with keith’s voice)

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if you are referring to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey, but I picture all the native Saudi’s being very rich, certainly enough money for food. Egypt may well be poor and Istanbul is probably just like any other European city (wealthier than other cities in the Balkans but not as wealthy as Western Europe.)

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of saudi isn't rich

all the wealth is being horded by the royal family.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was definitely thinking some combination of: Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Tunisia, Greece

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I could afford it. I would love to sail the Mediterannean hitting places like Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Israel and Egypt.

I’ve got a Byzantine/Ottoman fascination.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

me too!

are there cruises like that?

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Tons of cruises that will hit those spots.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

i went on a cruise of greek islands and stopped in turkey

it was pretty cool if not a bit crazy (people running out of shops grabbing you and pulling you inside to try to sell you a rug).

the cruise i went on visited Mykonos, Santorini, Rhodes, Crete, and Turkey (forgot where exactly). Maybe another place too. It was a good time. I was also 18 thou.

My big fear of cruises these days is i’m such a food snob and would rather sample local places than eating on the boat all the time.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with cruises is that they go when they go. For somebody just looking for a spot to hit in December, it would be very difficult to find a cruise that fits with your schedule in such short notice. Also, if you have work conflicts that will occasionally spring up, a cruise vacation is rigid.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the food is gross everyone tells me.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't go to Greece

then men are TERRIBLE there. Like, rude terrible.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

like

“Creepy won’t stop checking you out” rude?

or

“Get out of my country you dumb American” rude?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

In France

Me and a few buddies got into a fight with these three guys because they harassed our friend and then called her a stupid American.

Not proud of it, but I don’t like being pushed around

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

As compared to Italy

same, worst. I hear though that in Spain, the exact opposite.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

with 2 other girls

but they are all latinas who could pass for egyptians so they claim.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until they don’t speak Arabic

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wasnt there...

too busy watching Phillips play first and New Orleans go under during her vacation.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can anyone give me a clear definition of what it means to “pitch to contact”?

I’m serious. It can’t be what the obvious is, right?

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s a good question, I know I’ve always taken it to mean that instead of blowing by someone, you’re just trying to get them to hit the ball at your infielders or pop it up, etc etc etc.

(I’m usually wrong, though)

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Instead of trying to throw the ball passed the hitter you should try to have the ball strike the hitters bat.

Bad sports writers think this is a good thing.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine it's not so terrible

when the infield defense isn’t terrible.

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by Maddz on Oct 12, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

it helps to be an extreme ground ball pitcher

if you are going to do this. Or be lucky enough to play in PetCo.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

i love watching footage

of him in his prime. Guys just looked at him like “That’s just not fair”

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

that look was more like

“How the fuck is this shrimp nerd getting me out so easy?”

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

that too.

One of my favorite Maddux quotes though, was after being told Randy Johnson and Pedro were making more money than him,

“Oh poor me, what’ll I do now, I guess I’ll have to get a second job.”

I just think that’s so cool.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah

how refreshing

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then why do organizations ask their pitchers to do that?

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do organizations hire Ed Wade?

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Dave Duncan a big proponent of pitching to contact?

by OB12 on Oct 12, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is one of those things where he’s the exception. You can tell your pitchers to pitch to contact if you’re Dave Duncan. Everybody else, how about some strikeouts.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most famous of these rules

is for movie directors. If you can’t tell your story in an hour and fifty minutes, you’d better be David Lean. Everybody else, cut, cut, cut.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is the Twins model

which is to cut down walks but not necessarily miss a lot of bats.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Twins good pitchers strike people out. Their bad pitchers don’t.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pavano had a decent year

with a measly 4.7 K/9, but the GB/FB of 1.66 helped out – along with a reasonable walk rate. He gave up HRs on just over 10% of his FBs, so not lucky there.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah – it is something you’d rather mold an old aging pitcher into.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can be a successful non strikeout pitcher by walking people and inducing groundballs. There are very few people that can actually do this consistently, so it’s kinda like telling all you’re batters to hit like Ichiro.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a bad way of saying throw more strikes, don’t be afraid to attack the strike zone and if they happen to hit it, you deal with the consequences, but trust your stuff that they won’t hit it too hard.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might be an issue of small sample size

But pitchers who don’t post high strikeout rates in other parks look like they have a remarkable spike in K/9 rates when they pitch for the Dodgers. Fluke, organizational philosophy, or just something that Dodger Stadium does?

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Hmm

How do visiting pitchers, as a group, perform in DS? Any individual you can chalk up to extremely small sample sizes, but if overall pitchers with poor K/9s pitch better in DS, maybe there’s something about the stadium?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

Visiting pitchers get to face the Dodgers. So there would have to be some way to correct for that… :-(

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woah

6 UCLA football players suspended for Saturday’s game against Oregon.

Link

I wonder why

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Somebody parked in the wrong handicapped spot again.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were caught taking tests for USC football players.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

They play Thursday, October 21

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Julio could be implying the story told by

Petros (I didn’t hear it) where he said several players were out or at least up past midnight in San Francisco the night before the Cal game.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

(I didn’t hear it)

You don’t need a radio to hear Petros!

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a Bruin board

Everyone hoped Prince was one of the suspended players, ha!

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

another board overwhelming picked him as their preferred quarterback last week, fickle fans.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking about Oregon

Too bad for James Rodgers to end his season by a cheap shot. Man does that piss me off.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is considered CFB’s top defense and can they stop Oregon?

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

are they

on each others schedule this year?

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They will be

When they face off in the BCS national championship game, you know, you’re favorite event…

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

2983

permutations needed for that to occur. :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ivan Dejesus and Trayvon Robinson are leading off for the Desert Dogs, Sands not starting

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s been a good run

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

PS

Desert Dogs? Really? Just name them Coyotes already…

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why Mattingly is treating Sands this way! :)

Seriously though, is this the first game?

by OB12 on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is Designated Hitter Ivan De Jesus, leading off.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little diva does not have to even go out in the field?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kind of an interesting situation for the Dogs

I mean, how many guys in the AFL actually get to play for the Manager of the big club? I’m sure the ones that impress will be in Donnie’s mind for the future.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill
Anderson
Gio Gonzalez

Best under-25 trio in any rotation?

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Ely Kershaw Monk!

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

close

but carlos will be 25 on opening day

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not many

This is David Price’s age-24 season, for example, so you can’t do the Rays, for example.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was assuming the orginal question meant for the upcoming 2011 season

Otherwise, Price, Davis and Hellickson?

Although I see that Gio Gonzalez is age-24 season this year, so I must have assumed wrong. Still how many rotations have three starters age-24 and under this season?

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andrew Lambo is in left field for the Desert Dogs’ opponents, the Mesa Solar Sox.

by JonWeisman on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

This made me chuckle.

by OB12 on Oct 12, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I snickered myself, though subsequent readings may have begat a few chortles

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you remember

Wonderama, it was on at the same time as that show.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

No...

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kids

are people too! Wackadoo, wackadoo, wackadoo.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link allows a single to Brandon Wood, but otherwise no damage. One K, one hit, no walks, no runs, no errors. Scoreless after one-half, Desert Dogs coming up.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Wood!

Guess he needs the work.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wood is 3-for-3 with an RBI. May indicate the level of competition?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Brandon Wood is like the 15 year kid who shaves and is in your kids 2nd grade class?

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

They finally get him, on a comebacker.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny huh

he’s revisiting the league he destroyed in 2005 with Kemp/Andre/Loney/Laroche in that league.
Prospect Ratings by Baseball America:
Pre-2005: Rated #83 Prospect
Pre-2006: Rated #3 Prospect
Pre-2007: Rated #8 Prospect
Pre-2008: Rated #16 Prospect

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The catchers on our AFL team suck. Romine is hyped by the Yankees but Matt Wallach had a better year.

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Austin Romaine is 3 years younger than Matt Wallach.

Come on. You can’t be serious.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know if it's been posted

but MSTI has posted part 2 of his offseason plan, this is the Pitching.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I like the plan for pitching better than the plan for offense. I especially like trying to pick up Kawakami and Ducsherer.

What I didn’t like about the offense was that we would be filling the lineup with a bunch of high strikeout guys who are also pretty bad on defense. At this point I am warming up to Dunn or Betemit but I can’t see both manning the corners.

by OB12 on Oct 12, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the vinegar and water treatment he’s received.

by kinbote on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

Didn’t we all learn our lesson from the last offseason? Chien-Ming Wang, Erik Bedard, etc., etc., etc.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

well unlike those two

Duscherer actually pitched a ML game last season

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

shoulders seem worse

but thank God we didn’t give 10 mil to Ben Sheets

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

which is why I’m now staying away from injured pitchers. I asked last year if you could build a great rotation by taking chances on :
Harden
Sheets
Bedard
Webb
Wang

turns out the answer was a resounding no.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you could pick one of them and only had to pay them $1M would you do it?

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s gotta be a yes. Even if he never suits up, you’re only out $1M.

On the other hand, it’s possible that the Dodgers don’t even have $1M to spare.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

and $1M

is what MSTI proposed to pay Duchscherer. Sure but would you rather have a Wang in your Sheets? I know I wouldn’t. :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My most retweeted tweet

is still a Wang joke.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as he only costs $1M and all you are hoping to get from him is 10 or so spot starts and long relief out of the pen, i don’t see the problem. If he breaks you just move Ely or Monk up to the 6th spot in the rotation or some other NRI that didn’t break during spring training not name Ortiz.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure $1Million, no problem

I’d make Harden a setup man for the right price

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers Lineup

Andrus SS
Young 3B
Hamilton CF
Guerrero DH
Cruz LF
Kinsler 2B
Francoeur RF
Molina C
Moreland 1B

Lee P

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Rays Lineup

Bartlett SS
Zobrist RF
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Pena 1B
Upton CF
Johnson DH
Shoppach C
Rodriguez 2B

Price P

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

PAC 12 Compromise close

NW with BAY LA with AZ and new guys.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

UO, OSU, WAS, WAZZOU, CAL, STAN = USC, UCLA, ARI, ARIST, UTAH, COL

Pretty equal.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. USC is easily in the easier division. Their best competition may be Utah.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flash in the pans. The Arizona schools are good for one year, and then bad for 2 or 3 years.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

The past 15 years show the power schools to be USC and in the Northwest (with USC being on a completely different playing field better for much of that time.)

Washignton State has gone to the Rose Bowl twice since the last time an Arizona school went. Oregon has gone to 2 BCS games in that time, Washington twice and Oregon State once.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think MW

must’ve stayed at that same Holiday Inn Express you did. :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

do callbacks count from the same post?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would definitely be Utah.

Other than USC, the most recent teams to win the Pac 10 (defined as going to the Rose Bowl) are Oregon, Washington State, Washington and Stanford going back to 2000. There were some ties in there where Oregon State and Arizona State technically finished tied for 1st but the tiebreaker went to USC or Washington.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does the two division thing work?

I don’t follow the SEC or some of the other conferences scheduling too closely. Do you play all five teams in your division, then a couple (which ones) from the other? Do they all count as league games?

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you have it completely right. 2 divisions, play everyone in your division and half in the other. Winner from each division plays in a championship game.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the SEC, you play all 5 teams in your division. You have 1 “rival” out of the other division you play every year. And you rotate home and homes with 2 other teams per year.

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's actually closer than I thought

In the BCS era:

BCS Games
North
Oregon (2)
Oregon State (1)
Washington (1)
WSU (1)
Cal (0)

South
USC (7)
UCLA (1)
Colorado (1)
Utah (2)
Arizona (0)
Arizona State (0)

So I’d say it’s pretty close, but USC has obviously been the most dominant during the BCS era.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will guess Stanford is a (0)?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed Stanford

They’ve been to 1 BCS game as well.

So the schools not having gone to a BCS game are Cal, ASU and Arizona. Cal got completely screwed one year so knowing that, you could say that the Arizona schools are the worst in the Pac 10 over the past 10+ years.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

Larry Scott says he wants 9 conference games. NINE!

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

A judge has issued a nationwide halt on the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

How to pronounce Kuo’s name. :)

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't ask about UCLA going the USC route

with sports agents in the 90’s:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/magazine/10/12/agent/index.html

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read that

Wow, so many UCLA players accepted cash in the 90s

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know basically nothing about our legal system, but a district judge can do that?

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the federal level, yes. But you can have contradicting rulings by different judges on the same level. Which would then bump it up through the appeals process until somebody on the chain rules to not look at the case which would in this case make Don’t ask, Don’t tell pretty much illegal, or all the way to the SC.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. How this different than if congress voted to repeal it.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anything, it counts more since a judge ruling makes it unconstitutional to discriminate in this fashion.

A change by the legislative would technically open up the door again for a similar policy such as Don’t ask, Don’t Tell.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

but it will be appealed and won’t go into effect right away.

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by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t ask about Favre and his cock?

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fleeting thought

Will John Mayberry end up with a better career than John Mabry?

Maybe.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Signs point to Mabry

/I actually don’t have any idea

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will Mayberry, Jr. outdo pops?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can write

Sitcom scripts with that kind of stuff.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’d start with sitcoms. But if I’m really, really good, maybe I can aspire to greater heights, like Jersey Shore.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is no script. sorry.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know...

the one thing I don’t do is talk shit about all the garbage shows you guys watch….

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only response i can think of is “what garbage shows?” hahah

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's why i keep my shit talking

to a minimum.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That may be because you watch something that is worse than anything that we watch.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Futurama is awesome, so there is no way to shit talk it :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

how’s that AFL game going?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

3-0 Solar Sox and not looking good

Link pitched OK — 1 run on four hits, 2K, no BB — but Justin Miller in now and not pitching well.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Four straight singles off Miller, and a Wild Pitch mixed in for good measure.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Five straight singles now for Miller.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Valdespin finally grounds out.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Vlade and ESPN

“Once Brothers,” the 30 for 30 about Vlade Divac and Drazen Petrovic, is on tonight.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

One time I happy I have to work.

:)

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just fell backwards onto the floor upon hearing this news.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I figured you did. And you weren’t touched. That is the bitch of it!

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think his biggest issue is his ability to get guys out.

/Joe Morgan

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another hit

His line so far: 2/3 of an inning, six hits, five runs (all earned), no walks, one K.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and wild pitch.

And just now,a passed ball.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I was on to something eh?

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

add a walk

and Mattingly comes to get him.

0.2 6 5 5 1 1 0, with one wild pitch, and responsible for the two runners still on base.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a good ru…….It was a run

by keithc13 on Oct 12, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounded more like a stumble

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mattingly is gonna put him on the first choo-choo back to Chattanooga.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Track 29

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

George Kontos comes in, walks the next batter to load the bases, but then gets the next guy (swinging) to end the nightmare inning.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was only a nightmare for Miller

on the plus side he may never have a professional inning as bad as that ever again.

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's meercat for you

The eternal optimist.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trayvon is 0-1 with a walk

Dejesus is 1-2 i think.

Jon Link and Justin Miller got in and now we’re losing 4-0

by Julio Nievas on Oct 12, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

May I assume that the Justin Miller that has replaced Link is this guy?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

from a town named for G.Scott

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always get that with Gary, Indiana. I stopped responding to the Gary, IN jokes once I actually went there and realized it was a shithole. Gary, IN is like Compton East.

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Home of

The Jackson 5ive.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

5,000 seats normally unavailable are being sold for tonight’s Game 5.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=5676791

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

You people travel to much

Why on earth does anyone need to leave the greatest country in the world?

stay home
sit on the couch
drink beer
Watch baseball/Football/Basketball while ignoring the most popular game in the world

Anyone going to the Stewart Rally to stop the Insanity?
http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

I’d like to go but Phil wants to go to the Keep Fear Alive Rally
http://www.keepfearalive.com/

It is tearing us apart

by meercatjohn on Oct 12, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

because meercat

it helps us appreciate that there truly is, no place like home.

joking aside, I hardly leave the state, much less the country

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't leave my house

and I do all my drinking at home, alone.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

stay home
sit on the couch
drink beer Jamba Juice
Watch baseball/Football/Basketball while ignoring the most popular game in the world

This is the story of my life.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

switch out beer/jamba juice with water and you got me.
well, and its only baseball and NFL. and lots of Turner Classic Movies and HBO.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

TCM's top 10 baseball films

link—>

http://www.tcm.com/movienews/index/?cid=353613

just got the TCM phone app too, I couldn’t resist not knowing the schedule 2 months in advance…

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Oct 12, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i saw that!

i need a phone that will let me use a phone app

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The list

in chronological order (TCM didn’t rank them, nor did they simply have the list)

Speedy (1928)
The Pride of the Yankees (1943)
The Stratton Story (1949)
Take Me Out to the Ballgame (1949)
The Jackie Robinson Story (1950)
Damn Yankees (1958)
The Bad News Bears (1976)
Bull Durham (1988)
Eight Men Out (1988)
Field of Dreams (1989)
1. Eric will be angry. Very angry.
2. Let the swooning for Teresa Wright begin.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

2. Let the swooning for Teresa Wright begin.

Yes, but that movie has not aged well, Ms. Wright notwithstanding.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teresa Wright helps quite a bit (as you know)

I haven’t tried to watch “Pride…” in quite some time, but I imagine you’re right.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

yowza

I never saw her look like that! She always seems so wholesome…wasn’t she in Shadow of a Doubt?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Oct 12, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently from the same photo shoot

She is some dame.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprised these shots exist

since she famously refused the starlet treatment and was shunned by some studios for that.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we sure about the authenticity of these

Her head has that photoshopped look in both pics.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who knows? It's the internet.

But they don’t seem to violate her famous contract clause:

The aforementioned Teresa Wright shall not be required to pose for photographs in a bathing suit unless she is in the water. Neither may she be photographed running on the beach with her hair flying in the wind. Nor may she pose in any of the following situations: In shorts, playing with a cocker spaniel; digging in a garden; whipping up a meal; attired in firecrackers and holding skyrockets for the Fourth of July; looking insinuatingly at a turkey for Thanksgiving; wearing a bunny cap with long ears for Easter; twinkling on prop snow in a skiing outfit while a fan blows her scarf; assuming an athletic stance while pretending to hit something with a bow and arrow.
I just want to know what an insinuating look at Thanksgiving turkey looks like.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure she was referred to as

Miss Wright is those days. I can remember watching The Big Valley reruns and seeing the opening credits end with “And Miss Barbara Stanwyck as Victoria Barkley”.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

People who like that movie are counterbalanced

by people who really don’t like that movie, I think.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still love Randy Newman's score, tho

Ba daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ba dadada!
Ba daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Badada!
Ba daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ba dadadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teresa Wright fan

here.

Pride of the Yankees was one of those movies I remember being on 5 times a week when KTLA would show the same movie every night back in the 70s. The cool thing about it was seeing Babe Ruth (in pretty good shape) and a spunky but lovely Teresa Wright.

I have seen parts of the Jackie Robinson movie and unfortunately Jackie is a better ballplayer than actor. I have never seen Bull Durham.

I would put Major League on this list ahead of Take Me Out To The Ballgame. I might be convinced to put Little Big League on this list ahead of the Stratton Story.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have guessed

Bang the Drum Slowly (which I have never seen) would be on such a list.

Maybe this list is limited to movies TCM has the rights to broadcast!

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to see

Bull Durham and I need to see Major League. These are our off-season assignments.

Major League was, of course, what the Eric reference was about. And you were one of the people I was thinking of regarding Miss Wright.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ft_enkr9c

Tell me that doesn’t work as a film score.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This list gets a thumbs up from me

just for leaving The Natural off of it. I’d fit Bang the Drum Slowly in there somehow. Damn Yankees is the one I watched seven straight nights on tv when I was a kid.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s “Speedy”

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMDB is your friend

“Speedy” loses his job as a soda-jerk, then spends the day with his girl at Coney Island. He then becomes a cab driver and delivers Babe Ruth to Yankee Stadium, where he stays to see the game. When the railroad tries to run the last horse-drawn trolley (operated by his girl’s grandfather) out of business, “Speedy” organizes the neighborhood oldtimers to thwart their scheme.

Doesn’t sound like it’s entirely about baseball.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

A silent picture

Baseball connection, Babe Ruth has a cameo in this Harold Lloyd comedy

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also Lloyd's last silent

before talkies took over.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is The Sandlot?

Maybe it’s just because I’m still so young and grew up watching that movie so many times, but even watching it today it’s just a classic.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

and holy crap, how did I miss this

No Major League? WRONG!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Far more topless beaches on the Mediterranean?
Pot is totally legal in the Netherlands?

(Disclaimer: I’ve never been to any of these places.)

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Farve’s personally did a pick six on his wife as well.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reply FAIL, yes?

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

That’s great. Personally I’m a Colbert guy (though Stewart is awesome), so I’m for keaping the fear alive :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does one pronounce

Nieuwenhuis?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Just like it’s spelled

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 12, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

De Jesus out, Grant Green in.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Hold on. Let me get my scorecard.

by kinbote on Oct 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad but true

Last week, 4.8m people watched WWE Monday Night Raw, and 4.2m watched Giants-Braves game 3.

Meanwhile, 14m watched Pats-Dolphins in ESPN.

Why is baseball not more popular? I don’t get it.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

More people gamble on football.

by Tripon on Oct 12, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is not surprising. WWE has been the most popular weekly cable program for over a decade.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

i was watching both the baseball and football game. I haven’t watched Raw in a very long time.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was literally my favorite show from age 12-21.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

i used to love WWE as well

I went to Wrestlemania 21 at Staples, so much fun. But they started pushing too many people that just plain sucked in the ring, and I just found myself having less and less fun.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 12, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, I went to one show in 1996 at the Arrowhead Pond. This was during Shawn Michaels’ peak, which is why that gif always cracks me up.

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to a few WCW shows at the Forum around that time, maybe a few years earlier. I was really into it growing up.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

1996-2000, you would be hard pressed to not find somebody who watched it during that time. There were times when over 15 million people watched one of those two shows on Monday nights. That doesn’t even count who actually went to the shows.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s amazing. I literally cannot think of a single person I know who’s ever watched it. I realize it’s very popular entertainment but I still would think a baseball playoff game would be more popular (and some were, Yankees for example)

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i, too, never watched wrestling

and only knew a few people who were into it (or at least admitted to it publicly)

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

(or at least admitted to it publicly)

This is very true. Especially now. UFC and mixed martial arts are very popular these days.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

UFC, sunglasses, heavy drinking, and strippers

i have no interest in these things, nor do i understand them and thus i am less of a man because of it.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to do them all at the same time.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

you have no interest in strippers?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wear regular glasses

can’t afford rx sunglasses and unless you are driving straight into the sun or sitting 1B side at Dodger Stadium at sunset….

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

one word

plastics lasix.

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by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehhhhhhh

i wanna shoot lasers OUT of my eyes not put lasers INTO my eyes

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several words about LASIK

Bride, as you know, is an astronomer. During grad school, she specialized in adaptive optics. Basically, the atmosphere is really bad for stargazing. Two ways to fix it: either put the telescope in space, like Hubble, or try to use some software with the telescope here on Earth to “correct” for the atmosphere. That “correcting” is called adaptive optics. It was invented for the military.

That “correcting” is basically how they control the laser for LASIK surgery, too.

So she would go to all of these AO conferences, with the guys who invented the technology that eventually became the technology that became LASIK. And all those dudes who invented that wear glasses.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

some dudes

are really into that…

also, i am including “strippers, girls who dress like”.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

im not saying im super into that

but I am surprised. I will look at you different.

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm sure they had a heart of gold

i have nothing against stripper as people. i just do not have the strip club locator iphone app.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be okay with strip clubs if they weren’t half filled by the shadiest dudes in the world.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

NFL Players?

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Stephen Jackson of course.

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

touche

The Rio on Figueroa is nice.

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the iPhone of strip clubs

4 full bars but terrible service

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

see, i'm not a bar guy either

bars frighten me. im not a drinker so what am i supposed to do in them? other than karaoke of course.

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't

Bare Elegance be a lot more convenient?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jersey Shore rejects?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to a wedding once

where one of the bridesmaids was a stripper. The chick that accompanied her was outrageous: form-fitting, awfully sheer dress with a lowish scooped neckline to better show the enhancements. Memorable.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last wedding I went to had someone completely fall out of their dress.

At 2 in the afternoon.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

"their dress"

If it wasn’t “her dress”, it’s an even better story! (Is video up on youtube yet?)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly the least interesting replies to both.

It’s like watching a snowball in a desert, you know it’s gonna melt, so why bother taping it.

by regfairfield on Oct 12, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

never watched it, wear cheapies, occasionally, curious how they end up there.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

you would be hard pressed to not find somebody who watched it during that time.

within certain age demographics perhaps. I’ve never seen a second of WWE, WWF, WCW or whatever, but I am 49.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should have qualified the ages. I originally did and deleted it.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I probably have seen

a million times more boxing than anyone here 25 or under has though. Shit, I am from a different era!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched it back in the 80s

when Ricky Steamboat Dragon and Randy Macho Man Savage was around.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved one of the Flair/Steamboat matches from 1989.

It’s hilarious talking about this here. :)

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the only wrestlers I could identify on sight

are Jesse Ventura (he became a governor!) and Hulk Hogan (hard to avoid).

Freddie Blassie – dead or alive?

Something I didn’t know about Blassie’s work, the part in bold that is:

In 1975, Blassie recorded voiceovers for the songs “Blassie, King of Men” and “Pencil Neck Geek”, which were performed by Johnny Legend, featuring Billy Zoom on guitar.
I heard Pencil Neck Geek a ton on Dr. Demento’s KMET Sunday night show.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Jericho is pretty mainstream (talking head on VH1 sometimes and even hosted a game show on ABC this summer).

by silverwidow on Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want an example of mainstream, the Rock is the way to go.

by Michael White on Oct 12, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot

that he is/was a wrestler. Yeah, him too.

I have no idea who Chris Jericho is.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved it when I was 10-13

I still love playing the video games though.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 12, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

supply

There are at most 16 games in a week in the NFL. There are sometimes 15 games per day in baseball.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

But… it’s the playoffs!

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

To stay with this and update it

Brett Favre did 17,313,000 viewers last night.

Braves/Giants had 4,667,000 people.

WWE had 4,285,000.

People like to watch Brett Favre.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Favre did 17,313,000 viewers last night.

He got that much play from his photo? Damn.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Pats-Dolphins did 14m in a blowout, so only some of that can be chalked up to the Favre-Dong.

by LA Taco on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss?

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/

by nolander on Oct 12, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who was the guest host?

by delias man on Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tray with the two-out RBI single. 6-3 Solar Sox.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Showin' off for Donnie Baseball

Good for him.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: The Ginsberg movie "Howl" is quite good

Some great moments, especially by James Franco, who really has turned out to be quite an actor…boy I would’ve loved to be in that room with Kerouac and the “angel-headed hipsters”

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Cool, looking forward to that one

made by two well known doc filmmakers

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vintage Elbert...

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Oct 12, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gives up a hit and sac fly

still pitching, 2 out, runner on first.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sums up AFL baseball

Elbert now pitching to Brandon Wood, who had to get a special waiver to play.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wood flies out

1 IP, 1 run, 1 hit, 1 walk, 0 K. for Elbert

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well with the mandatory mid-week

start time for the World Series, there isn’t much flexibility in the schedule, that said, lame.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wish they'd get rid

of this mandatory crap. Would love for them to schedule these things more on the fly. Bills to pay, I guess.

by Xeifrank on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

People need their fix of Hell’s Kitchen.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox pays a lot of money

so they get to call some of the shots here.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

“My name is Cleveland…” duh duh duh…

Gah, someone force a long term moratorium on Seth McFarlane from making any more shows.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

{hums}

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lame

This will kill the momentum from the massive ratings baseball drew on TBS.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marty McFly

is trending on Yahoo, whatever that means.

by DodgerSF on Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

really?

link?

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’ll be on the new BTTF Blu-Ray’s. Comes out in two weeks.

by Alex41592 on Oct 12, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has to go 88 MPH in the De Lorean

Neck and neck with his fastball.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I knew there was a joke there about that, but damn, I could not find it. Kudos.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 12, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

which reminds me

when are we gonna start up a TBLA script writing group

by mintxcore on Oct 12, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

First we have to start a TBLA group forming group.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 12, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still honing my baseball script!

You can be first reader. Or 2nd writer after I give up.

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by underdog on Oct 12, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aww I'm late

to the “Eric Stults never made anything go that fast” party

Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!

by G.Scott on Oct 12, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another quiz

Talking about owners, where does Jerry Buss rank in terms of net worth against his fellow owners.

1. Top 10
2. Middle 10
3. Bottom 10

And yes there is larger disparity from the top to middle than from the middle to the bottom.

Click here for the answers per HoopsHype

by bhsportsguy on Oct 12, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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