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Ted Lilly Contract Details Emerge; Hallgren Leaves Dodgers

Ted Lilly's contract with the Dodgers is even more back-loaded than I thought, with the following payout scheduled per Beth Harris of the Associated Press:

  • 2011: $7.5 million ($7 million salary, plus $500,000 signing bonus)
  • 2012: $12 million ($10.5 million salary, plus $1.5 million signing bonus)
  • 2013: $13.5 million ($12 million salary, plus $1.5 million signing bonus)

The $3.5 million signing bonus is spread over the life of the contract, paid installments every April 1. I have updated the payroll worksheet, as well as the sidebar on the right side of the site.

In other news, Tim Hallgren is leaving the Dodgers, per Keith Law of ESPN:

Scouting director Tim Hallgren is leaving the Dodgers to join the Tigers in pro scouting. Logan White will take over Tim's duties.

Hallgren had been with the Dodgers for eight seasons, the last four as the Director of Amateur Scouting. He has worked under White for each draft beginning in 2003. Prior to joining the Dodgers, Hallgren was with the Texas Rangers in various roles in their scouting department for 17 seasons.

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H3O now has to each win a game.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 20, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do realize it’s H2O, right?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was wondering...........

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

H3O is called hydronium

it is a fairly strong acid. It sure is burning the Phillies, not the Giants, so far.

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by David Young on Oct 20, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

for awesome chemistry knowledge

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is the internet that is awesome

I had an inkling of a distant memory, but I had to look it up.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 20, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

well rec'd

for the memory then, because I didn’t know that at all.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, this will only make the Giants heartbreak the greatest when the Phillies rally from a 3-1 deficit.

Thats the only thing I can cling to.

Barf.

by Joey Joe on Oct 20, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Suck it Phillies

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 20, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I can hear some Philly fans right now

going, F-ing has beens beating H3O, damm it, I knew we should have kept Cliff Lee.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 20, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

F you Posey for sounding like you’re 35.

by Joey Joe on Oct 20, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

You can take Halladay, Oswalt, and Hamels

and go home without the best right fielder in baseball.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Heard in Ohio in 2007
You can take Beckett, Shilling, and Dice-K
and go home without the best DH in baseball.

:)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the Giants follow the same path

crater, trade Lincecum

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 20, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

LIncecum, Cain, Sanchez is rather close to those 3 though.

by Joey Joe on Oct 20, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yes BH the Giants have beaten Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt.

by Alex41592 on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

thank everything

i have one more tallcan to drink

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Phillies, go fuck yourselves

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Oct 20, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If it gets to Game 7, I assume Oswalt will still be good to go even though he pitched tonight?

by Joey Joe on Oct 20, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Oswalt would pitch Game 6. Hamels Game 7.

by Alex41592 on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is scheduled to pitch Saturday, in Game 6

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

in another installment of "Tommy Blackjack's awesome Dad."

I go downstairs after the game, and proceed to rant about both teams and now pissed I am, and my Dad just looks at me and smiles with all 64 of his years of life like, “Kid, you haven’t begun to be a baseball fan.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha!

Your Dad has the grit that Ned Coletti would love to employ.

by keithc13 on Oct 20, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he then down a Dr. Pepper and crush the can on his head?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he did, that is Dad of the Year type shit.

by keithc13 on Oct 20, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

he told me he doesn’t like Dr. Pepper either.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m calling child protective services.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

to give him an award for Best Dad Ever?

he has 26 of those, one for every year I’ve been alive!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

though he'd gladly

take the first few drinks of my beer.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

“Don’t tell me my business, boy!”

by keithc13 on Oct 20, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other news...

Bryce Harper sucking tonight in the AFL: 0-3 so far.

by EMDarrow on Oct 20, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

This is no shock. He will get dominated in that league.

by silverwidow on Oct 20, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

My buddy works in the AFL (he runs the day to day operations of one of the teams). He drove down to see Bryce so i got a little scouting report. He’s seen him twice in BP and says his power is just ridiculous (duh). He also said that in tonight’s 0-3 he hit 2 balls about as hard as you can, but just right at people. 0-3, but about as good of an 0-3 as you can have.

by UCLADodger32 on Oct 20, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Harper doubled with the bases loaded in his final AB, too.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the report.

Only reason I’m skeptical and have low expectations is because the AFL is roughly equivalent to Double-A level. Unless he’s A-Rod at 18, it’s hard to expect much success. I have no doubt he’ll rake next spring in A ball, but this just seems ambitious.

by silverwidow on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other, other news

Nick Swardson’s Pretend Time is pretty damned funny.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

i'm watching that movie Hidalgo right now

love that movie.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When the boss takes over the job of the underling
Logan White will take over Tim’s duties.

is it a cost-cutting move?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 20, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

More likely Tim got a pay raise to join the Tigers. Also, those were White’s duties before he got promoted to some sort of vice-president.

by Tripon on Oct 20, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe in net

Although maybe the now-in-demand White got a raise, too.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 20, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I can say

I wanted what is going to happen in AT&T tomorrow so much in 2008 and 2009. Just the opportunity to be there and see what happens.

I envy those who get to root for their team win a game that they probably would not believe they would have had a chance to see maybe a month ago.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 20, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

jimrome
  
Giants win. Buster Posey is the baddest 12 year old in the history of the world. He’s riding his bike to the arcade as we speak.

Is this shit supposed to be funny? I’ve never seen anyone try harder to sound “cool.”

by silverwidow on Oct 20, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly

I would be surprised if he even writes his own tweets

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/

by nolander on Oct 20, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other news

Will Roy Oswalt get to live with Juan Uribe getting a SF off him in video clips for the next two years.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 20, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally

I am assuming that Jon Miller will not come home to do the game since the only game he did this series, the Giants lost. But he could easily be back in SF tonight/tomorrow morning and fly to Dallas on Friday AM, so….

by bhsportsguy on Oct 20, 2010 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be awfully tough. Flying from New York to San Francisco tonight.

5 p.m game. Then a flight to Dallas overnight. But, it is radio so he just needs his voice. Could be another Tommy Bahama night.

I think he’ll do it.

by Alex41592 on Oct 20, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just had the feared tortured experience

of riding a tram home from a poorly timed soccer game, in time to ride it with a bunch of drunken, cocky Giants fans. It wasn’t too bad really, if I tuned them out (and since I wasn’t wearing Dodger blue or anything), just had to deal with people yelling Go Giants at the top of their lungs as they left. And conversations about how neither AL team scares them at all, etc.

Blargh.

And all I could think was Phuck you Phillies. You couldn’t roll over like this one of our two series?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 20, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

Add another low-light to our season/post-season… Our arch rivals did something we couldn’t do for the past two years..

by Julio Nievas on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Law believes Lee should start at Great Lakes next season and he believes he has the command for a promotion. Just one guy’s opinion, but an opinion I like.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 20, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Keith Law is really high on Zach Lee. He already called him a true number one.

by Tripon on Oct 20, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

he thinks he could be in AA by the end of the season?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 20, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the non-Giants lose

Excuse while smack the hell out of a Giants fan…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 20, 2010 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

*Excuse me

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 20, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

#Leemania continues

Ray (burlington, nj): Where would you rank Zach Lee amongst the pitchers drafted in the 2010 draft?

Jim Callis: Jameson Taillon (Pirates) is the clear No. 1 pitcher. After that, I think the order is debatable. I’d take Chris Sale and Drew Pomeranz after Taillon, and then Lee is in the discussion to be No. 4. His stuff, command and athleticism make for an impressive package.

by Julio Nievas on Oct 21, 2010 2:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Getting Lee has done wonders for my Dodger cynicism of late. Never thought it would happen, and I have to hand it to the FO.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 21, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The popular thing to do is to be negative about the current state of the Dodgers, yet they signed a talented young pitcher who many thought we wouldn’t and a veteran pitcher who we needed. Not doing so bad.

by OB12 on Oct 21, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Popular?

1. Dodger Divorce makes the team a laughing stock nationally as everyone gets to see how petty the owners are. Everyone’s may be petty, but ours get the headlines because they are spending more on the divorce then Rhode Island’s GNP
2. We came in fourth in the five team division, 12 games behind our rivals
3. We had two pitchers under contract headed into the offseason
4. We have a 1st baseman ranked last in just about every important offensive category
5. Not one player other then the Right Fielder could be called better then average
6. Our CF ended up being known more for being someone’s boyfriend then for his baseball skills
7. Even with the money spent on Lee (spread out over forever) we still spend less money on signing amateur talent then any organization in baseball.
8. We sing GBA during the break because we continue to try to emulate the East Coast teams.
9. We have a fucking Yankee Lifer as our manager.
10. Our best prospect might a be an infielder I wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole.
11. For good measure we couldn’t beat the Phillies two years in a row but our rivals don’t seem to have any problem getting clutch hits, and keeping the Phillie offense at bay when the relief corps come in.

I don’t know why your comment bugs me but it does. There is a legitimate reason for pessimism.

by meercatjohn on Oct 21, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with OB12 on this.

Be pessimistic if you want, but I don’t see any fun in that. If I wanted to be annoyed and pessimistic about shit I would just focus on my job.

by Michael White on Oct 21, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think his point is more that it's much easier to be pessimistic these days

and it should go without saying as to WHY people are, as you point out above (even if some of your points seem to go out of their way to find things to carp about), so yes it takes some doing to find things to be happy about. But there ARE things, players, prospects, personnel, that can give us some hope.

Some of the things on your list shouldn’t bug me but they do. So we’re even.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 21, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

There must be some things that give you hope for the future or keep you watching

the Dodgers or wouldn’t you just take a break from watching them for a couple of years?

The Padres were supposed to finish last this season and the Giants weren’t supposed to make playoffs or get this far, their fans both were super negative going into this season; I know some Giants fans who wanted Bochy fired two or 3 months into this season, wanted Sabean fired before the season started, and while they legitimately were excited about Posey felt like thing were pretty shitty. Those fans now would pretend they never felt that way.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 21, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

the meercat is a former season ticket holder

who, IIRC, attended exactly zero games at DS this year, outside of TBLA nights. Is this a case of actions speaking loudly?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 21, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Classic line, but it’s all the way out at the 4:20 mark

“What about that guy who was hours away from execution when a DNA test cleared him?”
“Science cleared that guy, a lawyer put his ass in prison.”
Sometimes, in my profession, I’m that jaded veteran guy in the break room, destroying the idealistic outlook of a youngster just starting his/her career. Sad, but I blame the idiot bosses for creating the situation!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 21, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's a great line!

I got asked in an interview for a summer position once, why i went to law school. First response out of my mouth: “For several reasons, but not because I wanted to help people.”

by DodgerSF on Oct 21, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew a guy

that went to law school simply for the new challenge. He already had a successful company that ran itself, after having graduated with the same degree as I did, only he was about six years younger than me, a bona fide boy genius. He graduated first in his class, clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and is now a professor of law at that school, who I sometimes see/hear/read quoted in news items. And he’s a really nice guy too, plus he’s chef-quality in the kitchen too – the dinner party he hosted was amazing. Essentially, he’s better than me at everything. Fucker :-).

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 21, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

whoa, what a resume

seems he might be better than me also.

by DodgerSF on Oct 21, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the news

a big meth bust in the South Bay this morning with LAPD scheduling a press conference this morning at the San Pedro station. I wonder if delias man is down one or more employees or “people he knows”. ;-)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 21, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

that is interesting because my driver that has that area route every day is clearly on meth. but he is the only current meth head i know.

by delias man on Oct 21, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

unless your guy was in the lab at the time

he’s probably still free. The hold press conferences to announce busting a set of meth labs and dealers, not users. Maybe your driver’s connection got busted though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 21, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

From our GPS tracking

I would guess he gets it in Gardena.

by delias man on Oct 21, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

New story up

by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2010 8:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

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