Albuquerque Isotopes 2010 Season in Review
Here is the last part of my 2010 minor league seasons in review. To read the other parts of this series, click on the links below:
Chattanooga Lookouts, Inland Empire 66ers, Great Lakes Loons, Ogden Raptors, Arizona Dodgers, Dominican Dodgers
Out of all the Dodgers minor league affiliates, I’d have to say that the Albuquerque Isotopes are my least favorite. Nothing against the franchise itself, but it’s just that the team is usually full of non prospects that are 30+ years old. In addition, the PCL, and especially the Isotopes home field, is so hitter friendly that it is difficult to analyze the player’s stats. That being said, the Isotopes were a fun team to follow this year because they had such a potent offense. 9 players with at least 200 at bats hit over .300, and 9 players had double digit home run totals. The pitching, however, was awful. As always, remember that these reports are very extensive, so just because I’m writing about a player doesn’t mean that he is a big time prospect. While I’ll usually mention if a guy is worth keeping an eye on, you’ll have to wait for my upcoming prospect ranking to fully understand who I consider prospects and who are simply organizational players. Also, how the poll question plays out will help when me when I run our overall TBLA top prospect poll later this week.
Record: 72 - 71
Season Result: Finished in 2nd place in the PCL American South division, one game back of Oklahoma City, and missed the playoffs. Their .503 winning percentage ranked 10th out of the 16 teams in the PCL.
Season Recap: The Pacific Coast League does not have "halves" like most minor league seasons, but instead is like the MLB in that the full season record of each club is what counts. After fighting to stay around the .500 mark all season, the Isotopes unfortunately missed the playoffs by one game. In terms of team stats, the Isotopes took advantage of their hitter friendly ballpark and lead the PCL with a .302 team average. The team also ranked 2nd in the League with an OPS of .836, and their 163 HR’s ranked 3rd. Their pitching was another story, however, as the team’s 5.78 ERA and 1.60 WHIP ranked 2nd to last in the entire league. The discrepancy between the batting and pitching demonstrates that Albuquerque’s stadium is extremely hitter friendly.
League Leaders:
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Category |
Player |
Rank |
Amount |
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At Bats |
1st |
545 |
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|
At Bats |
2nd |
533 |
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Runs |
2nd |
97 |
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|
Runs |
6th |
91 |
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Hits |
1st |
169 |
|
|
Hits |
4th |
159 |
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Hits |
5th |
158 |
|
|
Doubles |
1st |
42 |
|
|
Doubles |
2nd |
41 |
|
|
Doubles |
4th |
38 |
|
|
Doubles |
6th |
36 |
|
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RBI's |
3rd |
97 |
|
|
RBI's |
6th |
87 |
|
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TB’s |
3rd |
270 |
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TB’s |
4th |
268 |
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|
SB’s |
6th |
27 |
|
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OBP |
6th |
0.400 |
|
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SLG |
1st |
0.657 |
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Average |
1st |
0.353 |
|
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Average |
6th |
0.320 |
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OPS |
2nd |
1.057 |
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Saves |
6th |
16 |
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Holds |
4th |
12 |
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GF’s |
4th |
32 |
Offensive MVP: The offensive MVP of the Isotopes has to be John Lindsey. He led the entire minor leagues with his .353 average, and he also finished first among all players with his .657 slugging percentage. He also led the Isotopes in almost every offensive category, and as you can see from the offensive leaders above, he also ranked among the PCL leaders in many other offensive categories. When you look back at his season, Lindsey was hitting over .400 all the way until the All Star break, and hit both lefties and righties very well, In addition, Lindsey hit over .400 at home, but actually hit 14 of his 25 homers on the road. As we all know, Lindsey got called up to the big leagues in September to fulfill his lifelong dream, although his year ended prematurely due to a broken bone in his hand. It remains to be determined if Lindsey will be part of the Dodgers plans in 2011.
Best Offensive Prospect: Due to the lack of hitting prospects on this team, I’m giving this award to Ivan De Jesus Jr. In all honestly, there wasn’t anyone else to give this award to since De Jesus was the only player on this team who has the chance to be more than a utility player at the big league level. I’m not saying De Jesus will ever be a starter in the MLB, but at just 23 years old he is way ahead of guys like Russ Mitchell and Trent Oeltjen in terms of prospect status because they are much older and have much lower ceilings. Also, Xavier Paul is no longer considered a prospect since he has accumulated more than 130 at bats with the Dodgers, so he is out of the running. Getting back to De Jesus, he actually had a pretty good season at the plate for a middle infielder as he hit .296 with 7 homers. I’m sure the hitter friendly PCL helped his stats a bit, but this was more than I expected out of him this year. Even with solid season, however, I really don’t expect De Jesus to ever be a good major league hitter, and I think he’ll max out with 5 homers and a .280 average in the big leagues. In addition, he is strictly a 2nd baseman at this point, which lowers his value.
Pitching MVP: Similar to the Chattanooga, the Isotopes have very poor starting pitching, and thus I was again forced to give this award to a reliever. However most of the relievers were bad as well, as only 3 players with at least 20 innings pitched had an ERA under 4.00 for the season. Of that group of 3 (Justin Miller, Juan Perez, and Jon Link), I’m going to select Jon Link as the pitching MVP due to the fact that he was a workhorse and also served as the part time closer of the team. Link threw 60.2 innings, which led all relief pitchers by a large margin, and recorded a 3.71 ERA. His FIP for the year was 3.55 and he picked up 4 saves and 3 wins. Again, it’s not that he had a great season; it’s just that nobody else stood out for Albuquerque on the mound.
Best Pitching Prospect: This award basically came down to Scott Elbert vs. Josh Lindblom. Both had terrible seasons for the Isotopes, although each of them struggled in different aspects of their game. At the end of the day, I’m going with my gut and giving this award to Scott Elbert. I know he missed a good portion of the season due to "personal reasons" and didn’t seem to have his head in the game, but he is back now and saying that the time off was the best thing that could have happened to him. In addition, he is now going to work strictly out of the bullpen, so maybe that will help him focus and concentrate on a single role instead of going back and forth between starting and reliever. According to those who saw him pitch in 2010, his stuff is still there including a mid-90’s tailing fastball and a solid slider. He obviously struggles with control, but that is hopefully something that can eventually be fixed. If he has a strong showing in the AFL and in spring training, he might win the 2nd lefty job in the Dodgers bullpen in 2011.
1st Base: John Lindsey got the lion’s share of starts at 1st base for the Isotopes, and I talked about his season above. JD Closser appeared in 31 games at 1st, but he was more of a catcher and will be discussed later. Jay Gibbons played 28 games at 1st, but he will also be discussed later in the outfield section.
2nd Base: Ivan De Jesus Jr. was the team’s main 2nd baseman, and I already wrote about his season in the section above. However, I do want to mention that his fielding percentage at 2nd base this year was .974, which wasn’t terrible but wasn’t great either. I guess I just expected more out of a former shortstop, although it’s possible that his leg hindered him some in the field.
3rd Base: I knew Russell Mitchell could play 3rd base, but I didn’t think he’d be able to handle the hot corner for an entire season. Well Mitchell proved me wrong in 2010 as he played 103 games at 3rd base and held his own with a respectable .958 fielding percentage. I’m not saying that he’d be able to handle 3rd on a regular basis at the big league level, but he has proven that he can at least be adequate in an occasional start or in a utility role. In terms of his offense, Mitchell had an outstanding season at the plate with 23 homers, 87 RBI’s, and a .315 average. While he did perform much better at home in the friendly confines of "The Lab", he still held his own on the road with a .272 average. Since Mitchell can also play 1st base, the outfield, and even a little 2nd base, it will be interesting to see where he ends up in 2011.
Shortstop: Justin Sellers’ excellent performance at the plate was probably the biggest surprise of the Isotopes’ season. The 5’10" shortstop, who hit .280 with 2 homers in AA in 2009 and started off 2010 by struggling in the California League, managed to slug 14 homers and post a .867 OPS for the Isotopes. In addition, he hit .285 and walked nearly as much as he struck out. By the end of the year, it was even rumored that the Dodgers would add Sellers to their 40 man roster and give him a September call up, although that report never materialized. Like many other Isotope players, Sellers was aided by the hitter friendly home ballpark, but even still I can’t believe the season he had. Finally, it should be noted that Sellers is also a strong defensive player, so he still might get a chance to one day play with the Dodgers. In fact, he may even get added to the 40 man roster this November.
Chin-lung Hu played 45 games at shortstop during his injury riddled season, and had pretty decent stats in his limited playing time. However he continues to move in the wrong direction as the once solid prospect is now more of an afterthought in the Dodgers system. The 26 year old now only profiles as a big league utility back up at best, and the fact that he is out of options heading into the 2011 season complications his future with the Dodgers. Getting back to his 2010 season, Hu hit .317, although he did most of his damage at home and against left handed pitchers. One interesting stat for Hu’s 2010 season is that he only struck out in 7.2% of his plate appearances, and only walked in 3.6% of his plate appearances.
Catcher: Lucas May was Albuquerque’s main catcher for the majority of the year, and was having a fine season at plate before he was shipped to Kansas City in the Scott Podsednik trade. During his 351 at bats with the team, May mashed 16 homers, hit .291, and had an OPS of .856. After the trade, he continued to do well in AAA and was brought up to the Royals in September where he hit .189 in 37 at bats.
JD Closser caught 46 games for the Isotopes in 2010, and had a pretty poor season at the plate when compared to his teammates. The 30 year old hit just .268 with a .671 OPS, and managed just 3 homers. 2010 was Closser’s 2nd season in the Dodgers organization, and I’m also guessing that it will also be his last.
AJ Ellis was the only other noteworthy Albuquerque catcher in 2010, although he was limited to just 18 games behind the plate since he spent most of the season with the Dodgers.
Outfield: 13 different guys played in the Albuquerque outfield in 2010, but only a few are worth mentioning in this report. Jamie Hoffmann anchored the outfield as he played 124 games in center, which contributed to his team high 139 games played. Always known as a strong defensive outfielder, Hoffmann maintained his reputation by making only 1 error and posting a .996 fielding percentage for the season. He also led the team with 5 outfield assists. At the plate, Jamie was no slouch either as he hit .310 with 8 homers and recorded an .800 OPS. Even though he is longer on the 40 man roster, Hoffmann will continue to provide solid outfield depth for the Dodgers unless he gets selected again in the Rule 5 draft.
Xavier Paul spent an even amount of time in all 3 outfield positions, and when he was not injured or with the Dodgers he continued to dominate the Pacific Coast League. In 228 AAA at bats, Paul hit .325, slugged 12 homers, and had a .579 slugging percentage. He is another player who is out of options heading into 2011, so hopefully he’ll find a spot on the Dodgers 25 man roster next year.
Trent Oeltjen started the 2010 season in the Brewers organization, but then exercised an out clause in his contract in July. The Dodgers quickly signed him to a minor league contract and he provided solid dividends, hitting .347 with the Isotopes and recording an OPS of .979. The 27 year old Aussie then earned a September call up, although that probably wouldn’t have been the case if Xavier Paul had been healthy. When you combined Oeltjen’s AAA stats for the entire season, you’ll notice that he lead the PCL in doubles with 42, and ranked 6th with 27 SB’s. I believe Oeltjen still has options, so it will be interesting to see what Trent’s role is with the Dodgers in 2011.
Jay Gibbons was one of the feel good stories for the Dodgers in 2010, but if it wasn’t for his outstanding performance in AAA, he never would have been added to the Dodgers 40 man roster. While in Albuquerque, Gibbons hit .347, crushed 19 homers, and recorded an OPS of .969, while striking out in only 8% of his plate appearances. He also played pretty solid defense, although his adventures in the outfield at Dodger stadium suggest he isn’t the best defensive player. While he’s a free agent, Gibbons has made it clear that he wants to return to the Dodgers in 2011.
The 6’6", 240 pound Michael Restovich spent the majority of his defensive starts in left field, although he also played the role of DH for a good portion of the season. Like many of his teammates, Restovich had a very good year at the plate as he hit .305 with 12 homers. However his season was pretty much overshadowed by everyone else, and he was even released for a day in the middle of the season due to overcrowding on the AAA roster before an injury hit and he was re-signed. In addition, the fact that he is not a strong defender in the field gave him basically zero chance of ever making it up to the Dodgers.
Prentice Redman is the last Albuquerque player who made at least 50 appearances in the outfield, and he was actually tearing the cover off the ball early in the season before he was suspended for steroids. He is 31 years old so he was pretty much a pointless player anyways.
Starting Pitchers: Every single pitcher on the Isotopes pitching staff who made at least 5 starts had an ERA over 5 except for James McDonald, who is now a Pirate, and Scott Elbert, who’s ERA was 4.98. So obviously this was not a good year to be a starting pitcher in Albuquerque. 32 year old Tim Corcoran was the workhorse of the staff as he led the team with 107 innings. While his ERA was 6.31, his FIP was much better at 3.96 and he had a pretty good walk rate. He also led the Isotopes with 9 wins.
Seth Etherton was another seasoned veteran in the Isotopes rotation who played the entire season as a 33 year old. He was actually one of the more impressive pitchers on the team as his ERA was "only" 5.33 and his WHIP was a respectable 1.39. He also struck out 8.3 batters per 9 innings, although he only won 5 of his 17 starts.
We all know how John Ely did during his time with the Dodgers, but what about his performance in AAA? Well his ERA was extremely ugly at 6.22, although his FIP was a little better at 4.88. You can’t really blame his stats on the Isotopes home ballpark either because he had a 5.40 ERA on the road. He also allowed 10 homers in just 68 innings, and struck out just 7.4 batters per 9 frames. Obviously his performance with the Dodgers is more meaningful than his time in Albuquerque, so that is good news for him since his MLB ERA was slightly better at 5.49. His role on the team will depend more on what the Dodgers do this offseason.
Alberto Bastardo, who played most of his season in AA, made 12 starts with the Isotopes during his 2 month stint with the team. The results were ugly as he recorded an ERA of 6.99 through 56.2 innings, and his WHIP in AAA was 1.76. The small lefty is already 26 years old, and it remains to be seen if he’ll be with the Dodgers organization in 2011.
Charlie Haeger jumped around quite a bit in 2010, and his time in AAA was mediocre at best. He had a 5.70 ERA in his 10 starts and one relief appearance with the Isotopes, but what’s worse is that he walked more batters than he struck out. Now off the 40 man roster and 27 years old, Haeger’s best days are most likely behind him.
Scott Elbert made 9 starts in Albuquerque and recorded a 4.98 ERA in 43.1 innings. While his ERA was relatively low compared to other starters, his WHIP was extremely high at 1.85 due to his elevated walk rate. His strikeout rate was still very good, however, as he stuck out more than a batter per inning. His strong K rate shows that he still has good stuff, which is why I named his as the team’s top pitching prospect above.
The aforementioned James McDonald was very solid during his time in Albuquerque, recording a 4.41 ERA and a FIP of 3.60 while striking out 8.1 batters per 9 innings. Too bad he is no longer in the organization.
Finally, Josh Lindblom had a terrible season, and hopefully it was due to the fact that he was moved from reliever to starter to reliever during the season. His overall ERA of 6.54 was horrible, especially when you consider the fact that he threw 95 innings, and his 1.84 WHIP was ugly as well. The only slightly positive note is that his FIP was a more respectable 4.31. Going forward, Lindblom will remain in the bullpen, and hopefully that will help his stamina and mental state in the future. Also, he is still just 23 year old, which made him by far the youngest player on the team (not counting a cameo appearance by Eric Thompson). The best thing that Lindblom could do for himself would be to learn from his mistakes and focus on the future because he still has a long baseball career ahead of him.
Relief Pitchers: Besides Jon Link, who was team’s pitching MVP and was discussed above, the Isotopes had several other significant relievers on their team. 33 year old Justin Miller, who is not to be confused with the younger 23 year old prospect with the same name, had a very solid season for the Isotopes. In fact, he did so well that he was promoted to the Dodgers in May and ended up throwing 24.1 innings in the big leagues before getting designated for assignment on July 23rd. He cleared waivers and accepted the assignment back to AAA, and for the season he recorded a 1.95 ERA while in Albuquerque. He also had a 1.22 WHIP and struck out exactly a batter per inning. Overall, while he only threw 37 innings for the Isotopes, he was a valuable member of their bullpen.
Juan Perez is another veteran who had a solid season in the Albuquerque bullpen, as the 32 year old lefty posted an ERA of 2.96 in 45.2 innings. He also struck out an impressive 10.5 batters per 9 innings. I’m sure he was hoping to get called up to the Dodgers at some point in 2010, but as it turned out the Dodgers simply didn’t have room for another lefty in their bullpen.
Scott Dohmann, who is yet another 32 year old reliever, was the Isotopes closer for most of the season and accumulated 16 saves. However his ERA for the season was 5.82, and his WHIP was 1.65. To be honest I’m not sure why he was the closer of this team as it seemed that there were better options on the roster.
Travis Schlichting had a unique season because he performed better in the big leagues than he did in the minors. In 47.1 AAA innings, Schlichting had a 4.75 ERA and a .294 batting average against, but in his 22.2 innings with the Dodgers he had a 3.57 ERA and a .233 batting average against. I guess some of the discrepancy can be linked to the PCL being such a hitter friendly league, but even still it is a pretty rare occurrence to do better in the majors than in the minors (although John Ely experienced the same results). While Schlichting has never had a high strikeout rate, his composure in the Dodgers bullpen over the past two seasons demonstrates to me that he can be a valuable option out of the Dodgers bullpen for years to come.
Finally, we’ll end with Cory Wade. Remember when he posted a 2.27 ERA in 71.1 innings out of the Dodgers bullpen in 2008? Well those days are long gone as injuries and struggles led to Wade recording a 4.91 AAA ERA in just 29.1 innings of work. The good news is that he showed great control by walking just 3, but he strikeout rate was disappointing at 6.1 K’s per 9 innings. I haven’t really heard any recent scouting reports on Wade, so besides his slew of injuries, I’m not sure why he hasn’t regained his form. While Wade is not currently on the 40 man roster, there is a chance he could be added back to the roster in November in order to protect him from the Rule 5 draft. And in all honestly, it might be worth adding him back to the 40 man if there is room because it is likely that he’d be taken by another team, and because if Wade could ever get fully healthy, he might just revert back to that strong relief pitcher that he once was.
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Voted for Ivan
for basically the reasons that Brandon says. He’s the only guy I can really see making a meaningful contribution to the big club.
Me four.
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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 9:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Voted Elbert
Only guy who has ever warranted a callup in meaningful games.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
LOL @ Lindblom’s votes.
Don’t mean to sound like a dick, but this guy was beyond terrible last year.
Says more about the other options than it does Lindblom.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Terrible season aside, if he puts together a good couple of months at the beginning of 2011, he could find himself in the middle of the bullpen pretty quickly.
Unrelated
but Sickels’ top 20 lists are out for the Royals, Braves and Twins. It is ridiculous how stacked the Braves and Royals farm systems are. I think the Braves are poised for a dominant run of the NL East for a while if they can just sign or trade for an impact bat.
Royals with three straight A prospects is astounding. That could be 3/5 of the minors’ best hitters.
It’s a shame that they’ll be horribly broken by the time they hit the bigs because they are Royals.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Not that I have any reason to disagree with you, but Keith, why are you so convinced that the Royals will trade these guys? I don’t really know anything, but the story of the Royals seems to be that guys like Gordon and Ka’aihue mash in the minors then get buried there after brief (and/or not-so-brief; you be the judge) trials in the majors. But — and I have to stress this — for all our talk about trading for Royals players, those players are still, as we speak, in the Royals’ system. They have NOT traded them away. Yet. We’ll see what this winter has in store.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s the baseball version of “it’s the Clippers”
I’m not really buying it either.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I only ever use that reasoning for the Marlins. But now that they’re getting crap for making more money than they led taxpayers to believe, they’ve started giving guys like Josh Johnson extensions.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I’m not necessarily concerned with them trading him. I think he bounces the first chance he gets. Moustakas is a minor leaguer right now, so it’s not even a big deal.
They have traded a few decent players over the past 10 years before they got expensive. Carlos Beltran and Johnny Damon come to mind immediately.
I watched them play once in LR against the Angels farm team.
Moustakas is better than me at baseball
Don’t sell yourself short. You’re a tremendous slouch.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
i wonder if they might
sell low on Gordon or Ka’aihue. Probably not, but with a loaded system like they got…who knows?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 25, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Braves are poised for a dominant run of the NL East for a while if they can just sign or trade for an impact bat.
Their timing could not be more perfect. If you think the Phillies must eventually collapse under the weight of their contracts — and I gotta believe that day is gonna come soon — then the Braves will be ready to step in.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Ely have a future as the next Ted Lilly?
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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 9:58 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Ely’s right handed, so he can’t be considered “crafty”.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Basically lefties are the white guy of handedness.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This nearly had me dying in class. Thanks. :)
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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 10:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Anything I can do to disrupt the educational process is okay by me.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
So i’m already getting shit from all my friends for growing up in the Bay Area, and deflecting to the Dodgers. haha.
went on a 2nd date with a giants fan, and the issue of baseball came up. he gave me shit too. I told him: “Once you go Blue, you don’t go back. and to blame it on Steve Finley, who clinched it for me.”
No 3rd date, right?
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
“This girl called me one day and told me she was a Giants fan. I told her, “Listen, this ain’t gon work”.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Did you know he was a Giants fan?
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Shoot first, ask questions later.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Southwest is cheap. And there will be fast trains one day. Just start a long distance relationship with a Dodger fan in LA.
No one living in SF
Would ever be a fan of anything in Oakland.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No Warrior fans in SF?
Besides, don’t people commute from the east bay to SF where she could have met this clown?
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I never associated the Warriors with Oakland, even though they play in the same parking lot as the A’s and Raiders. Since there isn’t a SF team, they kind of get absorbed by everyone. I can’t believe they are so consistently bad with such a big territory all to themselves. Only Sacramento is close.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Yeah. The Warriors unite the Bay Area. Them and the Sharks.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Forgot about the Sharks. Along those lines, screw the Sharks.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
“ice babies” sounds hot.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
But not
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yo VIP
let’s kick it.
God I loved that album.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
if you got a problem, yo I’ll solve it
check out the hook as my dj revolves it
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So much goodness
Not to mention with the (at first uncredited and uncompensated) “sample” from Under Pressure.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
He used to get
so angry when people called him out on it. So sad.
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they're not as bad as the Sabres
they’re really bad. <3
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But in the Bay Area
you can still watch every Sac Kings game, so you’ve got options. I think with the Warriors they associate themselves with their The City heritage more than anything else which doesn’t make me think Oaktown
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
The Warriors started out in SF
Many people stayed Rams fans when they moved from LA to Anaheim. They don’t exactly belong to Oakland.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember when first reading about Wilt Chamberlain’s career being confused by all the Philly/SF movement and confusion about the Warriors/76ers
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Wilt as a San Francisco Warrior

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Do A's fans
hate the Giants as much as the Giants fans hate the Dodgers?
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I doubt it.
That would be like the Dodger fans hating the Angels more than the Giants.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants fans are just bitter
all around
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I don't know
I think it must get really annoying to always be second fiddle to the Giants.
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In the last 10 years, the A’s have had more playoff appearances than the Giants, so I don’t think they consider themselves second fiddle at all. In fact, i would think the success of the A’s in the early 2000’s is contributing to this SF Giants middle child thing.
Granted, the Giants have made two World Series to the A’s zero, but I think not winning is not winning.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Its not about being better or worse as a team
but who gets all the attention, fans, etc. Giants can blow money on Zito, A’s have to scrape money together to sign anyone. Little to no love on the thread here for the Gnats.
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/10/23/1770386/torture-giants-world-series-bound-to-face-texas
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I hope the Rangers sweep
got 28 recs on Athletics Nation. So, yeah there is that.
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Keep in mind the Rangers play in the A's division
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Seems crazy to me
Since there was no doubt in my mind who I was rooting for back in 2002.
And why would Oakland have an inferiority complex? They’ve been the better franchise.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Because their team can't draw fans even though they have been better
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I'd choose being better at baseball
over nice stadium.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
No one said they would
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Not sure what we’re talkign about anymore, but if somebody said to me that even though your team is better we have the better stadium, it would cause me no feelings of being inferior.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
We where talking about how A's fans feel about the Gnats
Due to the Giants getting all the attention and spotlight, even though the A’s have been the better team. Which is to say they really don’t like them.
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Would you care if your team got less attention? I wouldn’t. This is a “grass is always greener” thing because we bitch when Plasche writes his bogus articles about the Dodgers and we bitch when he ignores them altogether.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know when this became
a debate over whether they should feel that way. They do, which was my original question. I can see a lot of people eventually having similar feelings towards the Angels if this Angels love fest goes on for another couple of decades. I don’t, and won’t really care, unless at some point it affects the Dodgers ability to compete due to lower revenue, which IS what has happened to the A’s.
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The A's situation
is completely different than Dodger’s-Angels Cubs-White Sox and Yankees-Mets because the A’s and Giants don’t share the Bay Area territory. The A’s can’t advertise outside of Contra Costa and Alameda counties. So of course the A’s feel like the little man because they are! Anytime they cross a bridge they’re crossing into Giants territory and leaving their own.
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The A’s can’t advertise outside of Contra Costa and Alameda counties
Why not? The Angels routinely advertise in the SFV now which has always been Dodger territory. Life lessons from Mad Men, change the narrative by changing the name.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Because the Dodgers and Angels
share the territory. It’s the same reason the A’s can’t build a stadium in San Jose under current baseball rules, that’s Giants territory
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Woah, are you saying they are contractually prohibited from moving into those other counties?
I had no idea. That’s sort of bullshit if you ask me.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Charlie Finley
must have taken a shitty deal to move from Kansas City to Oakland.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
So by that count that gives the Giants seven counties (4.5 million population), while the A’s have two (2.5 million population). The most widely circulated explanation for this is the Giants, when they pursued a stadium in Santa Clara or San Jose in the late 80’s/early 90’s, had no outright claim to Santa Clara County, which was effectively up for grabs. Then owner Bob Lurie asked A’s owner Wally Haas for the rights to Santa Clara County. The change was granted by Haas, the commish, and the other owners. Subsequently, both stadium initiatives in the South Bay failed. Lurie held onto Santa Clara County’s territorial rights even as he moved his attention to St. Petersburg
.
http://newballpark.blogspot.com/2008/05/territorial-rights-primer.html
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
They started out as the Los Angeles Angels
and never gave up the territory, I presume.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
When the AL was granted a Los Angeles franchise
that included LA and Orange counties, which is why they were free to move without any hubbub
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
That's why I conceded below
Saying it sucks to be them.
I don’t know A’s fans, so I could only answer the question through the lens of how I would feel. Now that you are bringing up evidence that they don’t whine about not being loved, then that’s the answer I guess.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the answer is two-fold.
1) The media suffers from recency error. They have to focus on the ‘what-have-you-done-for-me-lately’ attitude to sell papers. The A’s haven’t been to the playoffs since 2006(?) so they get ignored.
2) Repping Oakland is harder than repping San Francisco. San Francisco is known for the Arts, history and being a very picturesque city. Oakland is known by those outside of Oakland for crime and not much else.
I guess what I’m getting to is, it’s easier to be a Giants fan than to be an A’s fan, regardless of the actual baseball being played.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
It may be easier
to get better at baseball than to get a new stadium though. If you already have the nice stadium, you can just focus on getting better at baseball.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Are A’s fans insecure, as the fans across the bay so readily accuse us of? Yeah, probably. And with good reason. Sure it’s been way too long since our last Series trip, but it wasn’t too long ago that we had a very good team, and we still have had much more success than theirs, but you wouldn’t know it if you weren’t from here. And for that I blame a little on the A’s marketing, but mostly on the media, and Giants fans themselves, who do more to flaunt their city and stadium in our faces than their actual team, but get all ass-hurt when we get offended.
Another well rec’d comment exerpt on that thread
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An SF dwelling as an A's fan
would be like someone living in San Pedro liking Wilmington.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
They exist?
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not to be too crude
but that might spice things up, WS angst…
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I should try and find a Giants fan around here
except I’m afraid I’d kick them in the balls first, thus negating any chance at hate sex
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he’d hate you more, though. So he may be better.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
how many hours later though?
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
immediately
to heighten the hate
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I mean as long as you don't kick him too hard
that may work.
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No league leaders in home runs???
Also – John Lindsey with an E played first base for the Isotopes. John Lindsay with an A was the mayor of New York City.
I always have trouble with the A and E in his name
and Lindsey came closest in the HR leaders, as his 25 placed 9th
by Brandon Lennox on Oct 25, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
It was spelled both ways in different places in the article
but it is corrected now.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, don’t talk trash about the list!
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I considered voting "other"
to represent the field, but when you take a look at who played for Albuquerque, yeech. Leach started out the year there, Adkins was there briefly (the question is only limited to someone who played for the Isotopes, without indicating how long), but there doesn’t seem to be anyone of real strong interest who had a cup of coffee up there.
I voted DeJesus Elbert is trying only relieving now, and Ivan has a better chance of sticking as a utility middle IF than Mitchell does as a utility corner guy.
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That doesn't sound like Amaro expecting Jayson back.
“Jayson had a good year,” he said. “It wasn’t an extraordinary year. He had a tough time with men on in scoring position. It wasn’t as productive a year as he’s had in the past. But I think if he’s not with us, there are players we can either acquire or are in our own organization that can help us.”
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This is the same man that threw money at Ibanez and Howard. No way does he think he can get Werth on any sort of discount.
cant afford him
Gotta pay Howard all that cash for his decline years..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 25, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
He easily had the best offensive year on the team. To claim otherwise is either disingenuous, or just plain incompetency.
Ruiz fourth? Just one point of wOBA behind Howard?
Fuck you, Ruiz. Fuck you in the smash-line-drive-into-a-double-play heart.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That’ll happen when you have an OBP of .400 (wow that’s pretty incredible really)
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Carlos Ruiz
Making Russ Martin look like a bitch since 2008.
Can I ask a dumb question? It’s been a common theme — I’ve said it myself — that “When Russell Martin went down, we saw what a bad catcher looks like.” And while nobody wants to pay Martin what he’s likely to get in arbitration, the idea that “a 350 OBP doesn’t grow on trees” has made people more sanguine about keeping Martin (at the right price).
Now the dumb question. If Carlos Fucking Ruiz can OBP .400, is that really true? How common is Martin’s production?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
not common
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Its so uncommon that we are literally going to give Rod Barajas millions of dollars to play catcher for us.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Barajas only made like 500k last year. If he makes more than a full million dollars this year, someone needs to get fired.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I am letting my blind hatred for Ruiz obscure my reason.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him sign for somewhere near $1 million, possibly especially if he will play more than a normal backup.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
as long as it isn’t plural million(s) or year(s), it’d be fine. If he gets some stupid 6 mil/2 year deal, it’ll be less money than overpaying for a pitcher or other position player as the loss would be between 4-5mil over 2 years, but it’d still be a lot relative to his value.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I don’t see any way that Barajas gets a plural (millions or years) deal, but I suppose I could be wrong.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
6 mil for 2 would be stupid
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Barajas doesn't have nearly the track record
of those two though. Kendall has proven that he can be consistently medicore year after year!
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
He figured it all out when he came to the Dodgers.
Millions might be overstating it, but something in the 1-2 range wouldn’t shock me at all.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Really doesn’t matter since “starting catcher Rod Barajas” should be a firing offense to begin with.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
If you look at OBP only
which I think would overestimate Martin’s worth, his OBP of .347 ranked 13th in MLB for catchers with at least 200 plate appearances.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see him get about $2-$2.5mm guaranteed
with incentives. This would be comparable to Olivo, Torrealba, etc.
“incentives” — you mean plate appearances? I dunno. There are concerns about his health with the injury… but the whole thing about Martin is that maybe he plays too much, right? I wouldn’t want to tie Martin’s paycheck to his playing time.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It will really depend on his willingness to stay in LA
If the Dodgers tender him a contract, they are on the hook for at least $4.04 million, because the max cut he can take is 20%. If they come to an agreement on an incentive-laden deal before the tender deadline, which is entirely possible, Martin may very well have to get the deal approved by the MLBPA.
If the Dodgers non-tender him, they could try to re-sign Martin for less, but there will also be other teams in play. My guess is he signs for somewhere near the $4m.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers can cut him in spring training if he’s ineffective, right? Or will that get them in hot water with the union?
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
There would be a grievance, which is always tough for the team to win.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I would be OK with this
I don’t expect much from martin, but I still have a wee bit of hope for him.
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If we tender or sign him for somewhere near $4mm
That would mean either we are very satisfied with his physical condition or we are complete idiots.
Or lack viable
alternatives.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
But by OPS
He is 26th out of those same 44 catchers.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
There were 29 catchers in MLB that got 300 PA in 2010, and Martin ranked 19th in wOBA at .306.
I don’t know what the breaking point is, but the argument is that if you use too small a number of PA you get too many part-timers that are less likely to keep up their rate production playing full time. In other words, if they played more, they would be much worse.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't 200 PA considered the cutoff
for significant sample size?
Not sure if there is any reason for that, it’s just the number I look to…
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That's what Larry Bowa said
about Andruw Jones, sort of.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like it should be more
if the argument is “Catcher X could replace our full-timer.”
Even though if possible of course a L/R platoon would be the way to combat that bias.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Are there any righty-mashing catchers that are available though? That was the hardest position for me to fill. I though Chris Ianetta was a righty-masher, but I was wrong.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Yeah but would he really sign up to be a platoon partner? He might be the best or second best free agent option this year with plenty of teams looking for catchers.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
He turns 40 in April, and is coming off a 117-PA season.
Brewers have an option on him anyway, so it may be a moot point.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
200 PA is when there’s any significant correlation between your current numbers and end of year numbers. It’s still something like only a 10% correlation though.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing in this mini-thread is making me feel any good about having Martin back.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
But that's only sort of true.
Yes, you’re right, we get Barajas instead of Martin. But Martin will probably cost about $3 million more than Barajas. Assuming there’s a hard budget number, if that $3 million gets pumped back into the team somewhere else, then maybe the team is better with Barajas + player X than with Martin?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t see 3 million + Barajas equaling Martin.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
For that $3 million to matter, you have to assume that they will use the $3 million to sign an impact player like Lee, Werth, or Crawford.
Or another player on the 2nd/3rd tier list, such as De La Rosa, or Rafael Soriano, or Orlando Hudson.
Don’t see that happening.
So instead of re-signing Padilla they spend the Martin savings and Padilla savings on De La Rosa.
Yes, that works for me.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, of course
I’m sure no one’s forgotten that Martin or Barajas, I think it matters not — the Dodgers will suck either way. If the team is really operating on the margins of whether Martin is greater or less than Barajas + 3 million, we are screwed.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Take this with a grain of salt, but using Fangraphs WAR, Barajas’ best season was 2.4 WAR in 2005. He has never had over 1.4 in seasons of 300-400 PA.
Martin’s last two seasons were 2.2 and 2.1.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there a $ to WAR conversion?
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Fangraphs uses a formula that’s basically WAR * 4. It’s not great since salaries increase exponentially and it includes terrible contracts in the calculation.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I also hear it doesn’t include players making the minimum either.
You also get columnists who take the dollar conversion at face value and say things like, “SEE. J.D. DREW IS WORTH $14 MILLION PER YEAR. FANGRAPHS SAY SO.”
It shouldn’t because there’s no way you could sign anyone that isn’t Nick Green for the league minimum.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but its disregarding a team developing or trading for a young player that has a good season like Jason Heyward.
The current system assumes that the only way to get him is through FA.
The entire point of that system is to figure out how much it would cost for such a player on the FA market.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
But it doesn’t change from year to year. A contract signed on 2007 would be overvalued in 2008 or 2009.
I agree that their values are skewed, but the methodology behind it is perfectly sound.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
on a related note
I can’t wait to take sociology through baseball
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Based on that
Martin is an 8 million dollar player?
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No, no. You've got it all wrong
Martin’s hip is an 8 million dollar player.
Yes. It’s why just multiplying WAR by a number doesn’t work.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised there isn't a formula using exponents and such
Where the higher your war gets the value of each war becomes more valuable. Pujols has what a 7 war? and is arguably worth that 28 million.
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Fangraphs must have rated his defense pretty high, I suppose.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
It only pays attention to arm strength, which I’m perfectly okay with because I don’t think catcher defense matters all that much.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
That was healthy Martin. We would be getting the Martin coming off of an unprecedented injury for catchers.
maybe
he’ll be better…faster…stronger…
SHUN NUH NUH NUHHHH!
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Russell Martin as the Million Dollar Man?
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Just Steve Austin. Plus the explanation will be great.
“Yeah, I’m Steve Austin. No, the less awesome one”
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
You could be a hybrid
of both. Just tape a DVD of Stone Cold to your shirt.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m looking into orange jumpsuits as we speak.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s perfectly OK to consider a cheaper alternative to Martin at C, but if we think Barajas/Ellis are that alternative we will be sorely disappointed.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Recently, Mattingly said there was a little discussion, probably nothing serious about moving Martin to another position. Does anyone think he could cut it at 2B? Would we want him there?
No and no.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Trying him out
at second base might be fun from a hilarious standpiont.
People here crushed DeWitt for what I thought was somewhat decent work at second. DeWitt was an elite thirdbaseman moving to second. I think Martin would be laughed out of town.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Jayson, that was a bus you just got thrown under.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
With a hairy mug.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Josie wants to give him a hug? I have nothing.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
josie wants to give him a tug?
Line
-———————————
Me
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Ooo, I know this one
Me under the line. No, wait. The line over me. No, don’t tell me….
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish I could remember what those puzzles were called, I want to do like a million of them now
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Wacky Wordies
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
They had a name?
I never knew that.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
More gin please – glug!
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Worrying about Martin is all and fine, but he's hitting roughly what a catcher is expected to hit.
James Loney has been an utter disappointment ’s 3 years straight.
Preaching to the choir. Most of the commenters ready to run Martin out of town are ready to do the same with Loney (IMO)
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I have always been against an Adam Dunn signing but I am starting to think that it would make sense for this team.
Against signing Adam Dunn?
It’s like I don’t even know you
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m willing to buy into the idea that a full year of not moving around the diamond led to his defensive improvement last year. He’s still bad, but nowhere near bad enough to offset the offensive gain IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, Tripon, Mondays are Rip Russell Martin days. Please pay attention to the schedule:
Monday: Russell Martin
Tuesday: Frank and Jamie McCourt
Wednesday: The Blake/Santana Trade
Thursday: James Loney
Friday: Rip the Dodgers We Like, and then Rip the Commenters Who Rip the Dodgers We Like
Sat/Sun: Ned Colletti
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
That is Friday. We like Kemp.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It runs opposite Perspectives, at 3:30am on Sunday morning.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he is hitting roughly what a catcher who plays good defense
is allowed to hit. War for a catcher is overrated. Loney before this year has been a model of consistency the only he hasnt shown was power other that that i dont see how you can consider him a disappointment especially since he has been a great defensive player and high obp guy. Ill give up a dissapointment for a half but then again so was most all dodger players this year
Consistently below average is not a good thing
high obp guy
No, he’s not.
2008: .338 OBP (19th among MLB 1B with 100 games at 1B)
2009: .357 OBP (15th among MLB 1B with 100 games at 1B)
2010: .329 OBP (19th among MLB 1B with 100 games at 1B)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
James Loney "model of consistency" and "high OBP guy"?
2007 – .381
2008 – .338
2009 – .357
2010 – .329
career – .348
That is neither consistent, nor high.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
you guys and your facts
always getting in the way of a nonsensical argument…
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Because we were getting squeezed up there
*The Dodgers’ and Angels’ territory includes Orange, Ventura and Los Angeles Counties
*The Yankees’ and Mets’ territory includes New York City, plus Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester and Rockland Counties in New York; Fairfield County south of I-84 and west of SR 58 in Connecticut; and Bergen, Hudson, Essex and Union Counties in New Jersey
*The Athletics’ territory includes Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
*The Phillies’ territory includes Gloucester, Camden and Burlington Counties in New Jersey
*The Giants’ territory includes San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Monterey and Marin Counties, plus Santa Clara County with respect to another major league team
So no one gets Santa Barbara County? Rough.
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That’s where I’m getting confused, because the Dodgers do air there games in Santa Barbara and points north. I believe they also broadcast as far east as Las Vegas.
So, what does a territory mean?
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
This sounds familiar
(I’ve been watching Boardwalk Empire)
So, bringing it back to the post above, is there something that would limit the A’s ability to advertise in Santa Clara county?
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
As quoted above
the Giants have claim to that county.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Mike was asking, does that mean the A’s can’t advertise there, or just can’t move there?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing really. The Giants could send a complaint to MLB, I suppose but MLB could and would do nothing about it.
It’d be like complaining that the Cardinals operate near Kansas City or the Cubs operate near Milwakuee. Well duh,
Sometimes the Cubs just use Milwaukee’s stadium instead of wherever they are supposed to play, essentially calling Bud Selig a skirt.
When asked for a quote, Jim Hendry said, “Whateva, whateva. I do what I want!”
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by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
obviously TV and newspaper advertising is Bay Area wide, so when we say advertising we’re just talking about billboards and other physical advertising. In my experience, the A’s don’t have any physical advertisements outside of CC and Alameda.
As I understand it, those territories are what you can consider your home territory which includes playing and promoting.
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
A’s fans need to pass a proposition that re-zones the counties in California to reflect new population trends. In a bold move, Dodgers claim New Fresno County,w ith the A’s getting what used to be Santa Clara and Freemont in what has been renamed Oaklandia.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
as far as I can tell
Santa Clara county was unclaimed until the Giants wanted to build a stadium there (which failed). Then the tech boom happened. It’s a classic case of giving up something that is worth nothing only to have it be worth so much. The Giants are pretty dependent on San Jose dollars to meet their budget
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
As long as the Dodgers keep New Vegas
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We here in San Bernardino County cry in our meth labs.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Riverside County too.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been to Alaska but not in time to see the Northern Lights :(
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Isn't the time to go to Alaska in the summer?
In December can’t the winter weather be wicked? Plus the extremely short – or non-existent if you are above the Arctic Circle – daylight hours?
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
According to my friends in Alaska, winters are the reason for the baby boom that happens every September.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
by MartinGreen on Oct 25, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
My wife wants to see glaciers at some point in her life
so thats a potential vacation spot for me.
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Assuming there are glaciers in Alaska.
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You can see glaciers
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
hm I meant the kind that bob around in water
although she is an enviro science major so maybe thats not what she herself meant.
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those would be
icebergs. Didn’t you see Titanic?

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
THIS IS HOW I TALK
HAVEN’T YOU SEEN MY MOVIES?!
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
ok
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No,
but I’ve been to Norway/Sweden to see the midnight sun.
And nolander, while I was there, I hiked on a glacier. It was fun.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
My daughter wants to see the midnight sun
in Norway too. Can Northern Lights be observed up there also? I think so.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I assume so, but… not in the summer, when the sun is up all the time, right?
Your daughter should go to the Lofoten Islands. They’re gorgeous. Catch the ferry from Narvik.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Every week
I pimp this guys story on SB Nation. For me, as a guy who spends a lot of time on a blog and as a guy who acts as a moderator, it is a good reminder that their are far crazier commenters out there.
On that note, I implore you to read a comment written on a Notre Dame blog after their loss last week. It is EPIC.
Awesome
The rant was worth it for just part about the names alone.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
The other girl was extremely pretty. This one just looks annoying.
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
the blonde?
she was as anne as the nose on plain’s face
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I thought she was gorgeous, especially the eyes.
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn’t pick her out of a lineup of one
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
You're a terrible lesbian
That Texas chick was so hot.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Texas girl
had better makeup.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
oh we're comparing her
to Texas girl? I thought you meant the other Iowa girls
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m just gonna make a video of me looking horrified and screaming “NOOOOO” at something off screen and post it so you guys can have a new GIF with which to torment everyone.
Bonus: I can tell you right now that Texas girl is better looking than I am
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That was me on Saturday, reacting to Ryan Howard’s game-ending strikeout.
Except I’m not a cute Texas co-ed.
But I did the palm-temple thing. Over and over again.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
fanerman not being a cute texas co-ed
you should have told me this BEFORE i added you on facebook :\
knowing me
It’ll start out that way but then launch into me punching the nearest Giants fan in the face, starting a huge brawl
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haha, maybe I'll get a guy friend to stand in for the Gnats fan
but it’ll have to be one that doesn’t know I did kickboxing. “Cmon, I can’t punch hard, I’m a girl!”
Like Dave Chapelle saying he’s got to get his show back, arms to the heavens, and then BOOM!
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help me out — can’t read her lips.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 25, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Texas girl was hot
But this one looks like she is about to cry.
It’s a tossup.
by Michael White on Oct 25, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I could read Texas girl's lips
But not Iowa girl’s.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
If I was a college undergrad again
I would date either one without a moments hesitation.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
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I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat, and a ’64 Impala.
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know who Cee-lo is.
This outside world scares me. I’m going back under my rock now.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Cee-lo sang Fuck You
which is my hands down favorite song of the last ten years. Next to Boom Boom Pow and Pledge Allegiance to the Swag
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Pledge Allegiance to the Swag?
OH MAN I need to hear that song
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Oh, I've see that video
that’s a great summer song. Heard the PG version of it in a movie trailer this weekend – “Forget You”.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Forget You destroys that song. It’s hilarious for its vulgarity and ability to take a Motown/Doo Wop style song and put him hop lyrics to it instead of simply taking a recycled oldies tune and having it serve as your backup singers. I’m looking at you, Paul Wall, Biggie and Akon.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I don't know
who either one is. But my excuse is that I am nearly twice your age.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I listened to “hip” music when I was a kid, so I know who Cee-lo is.
Now I listen to Sufjan Stevens. WHOO SUFJAN FUCKING STEVENS CONCERT TONIGHT WHOO.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
look at this fucking hipster
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Vocals are so last year
its all about the Pelicans and Explosions in the Skys of the world
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I could name some other bands you might like, but, you know, you probably haven’t heard of them, they’re pretty obscure.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m happy to get recommendations.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
my "havent been updated for a while"
mix cd website. most (or all?) of the links arent working but if there are any you want me to reupload, i would be happy.
Also, I don’t like things that are too loud or too fast.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
It’s okay. That doesn’t mean you can’t run to the safehouse and abandon me in L4D while I cry for a medkit one of these days.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
I don’t think there’s a quicker way to get Maddz to hate you.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
But I’d actually be doing that on purpose to get revenge for Maddz calling me a hipster.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
to be fair
your boy Sufjan isn’t really known by people OUTSIDE the hipster circle.
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Actually calling Sufjan “my boy” is totally accurate.
But you’ve obviously heard of him…
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
I was just trying to inform, not call you gay.
There’s a first time for everything.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
because some kids played the song for a juggling performance in a variety show I ran. I like unironic use of french horn in pop music.
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The predatory wasp is one of my favorite songs of ever
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck wasps
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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
um
nah I’lll just listen to Bach in my head
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
being suddenly single
has made me turn into a 13 year old boy. my mind is in the gutter.
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I'm pretty sure he is playing the ol
bait and switch
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BTW, there is a “Madz Pizza” here in the high desert, but I haven’t gone because they are missing one D.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm down to only one D
it’s annoying
…
that’s a lie, I’ve lost too much weight, I’m now at like a B. :(
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but there’s not a B in your name….OHHHHH!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I’ve always heard the first thing to go are your boobs
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty true. Now I’m just going to be jacked so I can be the gritty outfielder of the Divinity School
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oh my
the ball landed ten feet away, but just look at that swan dive on replay
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
for anyone who cares
you can kind of see this in a picture that was just posted to my facebook wall. lolol.
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Boob talk. Hot.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Goes good with the xkcd kitty one I posted over the weekend
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heh, Scary Go Round
one of the many comics I used to read, but lost track of.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 25, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
there was that webcomic boom, but now it’s sorta fizzling when everyone realized there really wasn’t any money in it
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I just read this and giggled
She’s also a covers the Los Angeles Galaxy soccer club and is a pop culture fiend. When she’s not watching a movie, soccer, or doing assigned reading, she’s probably asleep
That doesn't seem to leave room for
drinking. Or sex.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
great muppety Odin
it’s been a while since sex. Drinking is implied in the commas
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That is what happens
when life gets filled with obligations. But you are a grad student on a college campus; wouldn’t it be easy to mini-cougar it with an undergrad?
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Offer to "tutor"?
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Yeah, cos 20 year olds are sooooooooo much fun in bed.
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also this. I don’t wanna spend half an hour using my hands
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
22 year olds need loving too?
and help with school?
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22 year olds
usually aren’t undergrads. :P
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what
you are not an undergrad, nor are you 20
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Nothing wrong with that
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i discredit that remark, but only because I was all bohemian or whatever
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Like half of them are
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I was 22
the last half of my last year as an undergrad, but I used the five-year plan when UCs were cheap to attend.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm sorry
if I’ve offended people. I still wouldn’t sleep with a 22 year old right now.
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he asks this
while holding an ipod over his head outside your window
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s gotta be a touch right, with a speaker attachment
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
an iHome
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yeah but
there’s no joke there, cause you’ve got to make two connections instead of one.
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I had the Nomad Zen
imho it was 10 times better then any ipod, even when the ipod added video. Then they started dumbing down their products to compete with the iPod. /sigh
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UGH. There are no > 100 GB mp3 players these days besides the iPod.
Everything is flash-based.
(I recently bought a 160 GB iPod due to lack of choice).
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
I think Sony MP3 is a much better value than a similar model iPod.
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If I hadn't gotten my droid
I would have been all over the Zen HD, but its only 32 gigs.
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Why would he be holding an ipod over his head?
I’ll never understand kids.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
let’s add hasn’t seen Say Anything to the list of things Mr. F needs to catch up on
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The consequences of a posterless childhood.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m so out of touch.
I have no chance of getting anywhere in life.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
yeah
that Berkeley education sure isn’t a door opener
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't blame you
I was a pretty immature 22 year old!
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I live with my parents
I need someone who can take me back to their place, and not having that be a dorm
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
But then how else will you see their sick setup of XBox and a poster of Jim Belushi in Animal House
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
now now
it might be “The Kiss” poster and a PS3, but those are all beta males
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need to step my 360 game up
so I can beat some poor kid at Madden and then make them feel better or something
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Wouldn't it work better
if you let him beat you, and let him make you feel better? Men can be so goddamn touchy about losing.
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My original question was so inappropriate I’m just going to censor myself.
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How bout them Rangers
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PS3 is making a comeback
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Its 300 now
same is a 360 with hard drive. All of em will probably drop by 50 bucks sometime in 2011 though.
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yeah buh
a casual gamer like me is looking at Wii and 360 arcade and going PSWhat?
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on what you want to do
If you ever want to use it for hulu plus or netflix you’ll pay that 50 bucks back in subscription fees. The arcade is a good pay by ms though.
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I was torn on my choice of cliche college posters. The kiss was a very close second.
by regfairfield on Oct 25, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Love me some
Van Gogh
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He was quite attractive
on Doctor Who last season
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Need to get my wife to start watching again
she gave up on it when they switched from Rose
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I'd say
that Amy (new companion) is the best one they’ve had since Rose, and I even like her better
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
She is a fetching lass
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wonderful painting
almost worth the trip to NYC to see it at the MOMA.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea what this “The Kiss” poster is. I’ve never had a poster in my room ever… even as a kid.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.

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I guess it’s just Kiss. Scott Pilgrim has it on his wall.
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Your fault not mine
nener neener neener
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worst day ever
was when my awesome roommate sublet her room and the dude moving in put up that poster. and then had a party and took the door off the bathroom to play beer pong.
Harvard has extension classes? For realsies? Do they advertise in the pennysaver?
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think most colleges have some sort
of extensions
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well screw everything, I’m moving to Cambridge and enrolling in Harvard (extension) and that’s exactly how it’ll go on my resume
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s a pretty clear sign of douchebagery ahead
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Carl Paladino
says that’s hot!
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Erroneous!
There is some money in it, but really for only the top top ones.
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you're still
relatively anonymous. The webcomic section at Cons is always so sad
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Good ol' dumbrella
I can’t believe I didn’t even realize that was Scary Go Round. Been a looooong time since I read that. I used to read Diesel Sweeties and some others. The only webcomic I still read is American Elf
It took me a second to get that. Maybe my IQ needed the second recover from the initial reaction to the boob talk.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
the second TO recover
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Overcompensating for the typo that we would have read right through (at least I did) only calls more attention to the typo!! ;-)
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He just means a sock, with chloroform.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
whats her name grosses me out
and i am tired of the phony niceness when they meet people with too much shit.
what? she’s awesome! but yeah, they meet some crazy fuckers
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t let tatoos bother me. I just like Mike.
Not a big fan of his fat buddy either.
I enjoy what they get from people.
they’re such small deals makers, I can’t understand how they put gas in their van
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was a half hour of pitching mechanics with Rick Peterson.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
That show is definitely part of our upcoming Dodger channel!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Any Dodger channel of ours
has to hire Ron Stilanovich.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A sedative?
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Adam Wainwright's deal
2011: 6.5M
2012: 9M Club Option (guaranteed w/Top 5 finish in 2010 Cy vote)
2013: 12M Club Option (guaranteed w/Top 5 finish in 2011 Cy vote)
This is such a superb deal. I can’t even wrap my head around it.
Signed after the 2007 season
2012 would have been his first FA year.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
This hurts.
2. The T in Justin T is for Texas Posted: October 24, 2010 at 07:49 AM (#3674575)
Also an interesting/refreshing acknowledgment that he has signed the crappy FAs for flipping purposes and not because he thought they would contribute to the Royals winning games.
On one hand you can come back with the notion that one should not expect to be able to get something of value for a crappy FA, but in a world where Ned Coletti has a job and hands out real prospects every year for a couple months of Podsednik or Octavio Dotel, that really isn’t true.
On a story about the Royals ‘building plans.’
You have to have a long-term perspective. I’ve heard people say that they’re tired of us ‘rebuilding’ every year. Well, we’re not ‘rebuilding.’ We’re building. We have nothing to rebuild from.
Our GM is a moron
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I'd love to add an adjective and do the whole "FTFY"
but that statement is great in simplicity and truth.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me just say
the Donovan to Beckham play last night was one of the coolest things I have seen in a while. Almost made the other 89 minutes and 55 seconds worth it.
:)
woohoo!
it really was. From Donovan getting pissed and shoving the guy, finding Beckham perfectly and watching him kick a perfect ball. The crowd’s reaction was just, I’m sure that’s the loudest I’ve ever heard HDC.
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I can haz clip?
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replay
http://latv.neulion.com/mlsvp/console.jsp?catid=1877&id=9968 go to 3m
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heh doesn't have the shove
thx tho
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it does
just wait for it on the replay
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
that goal is dime a dozen
why was he out of his usual position of standing on the right wing waiting for someone to dribble the ball to him so he can send in a cross?
first, funny!
but Beckham was all over the pitch last night, it was like he wanted to win or something
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
or maybe
he was still working his way back across the pitch from a corner he sent in on the left side 10 minutes earlier?
I didn't know shoving like that was legal
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as Bruce Arena said
it was last night. Donovan had just been shoved off the ball like 3 mins earlier while on a run at goal
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
what
The San Francisco Giants came to town six games ago and everybody knew about their great pitching staff. But let’s be real. There isn’t a single player in their starting eight that could start for the defending National League champions. Pat Burrell vs. Raul? Andres Torres vs. Shane? Cody Ross vs. Jayson?
Same deal right around the infield. OK, Buster Posey is the National League catcher-of-the-future. But Chooch is the catcher-of-the-now.
…The dreaded "C" word – complacency – reared its ugly head more than once, with Shane Victorino the clubhouse spokesman for the "Light Switch Theory." Guess what, Shane. The switch worked, but the bulb had burned out.
This is why
I wasn’t overly bothered by the Giants winning, I knew these Philly stories would dominate the headlines.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone see this story?
Dave Eiland was fired by the Yankees.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 25, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
He and Tim Raines need to be on a staff together
They can do a duet: “I am a Rock; I am an Eiland.”
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If they dumped him in the river, the alternate headline could be “Eiland’s In The Stream”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Saw that
he could be headed to the Diamondbacks along with Don Baylor (pitching and hitting coaches, respectively)
by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Don Baylor to my knowledge never hit a broken-bat HR, like his predecessor did!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Don Baylor
knows how to get hit by a pitch, instead of trying to fake his way on. I finally figured out why I hated Jeter’s move (and Renteria’s attempt in the NLCS) of faking the HBP. It’s because it reminded me of soccer players writhing on the ground in fake pain in an attempt to draw a foul call. Puh-lease, if you had time to think about faking an HBP, you had time to lean into it like a man and make it a no-doubter. Don Baylor (and Ron Hunt) scoff at Jeter and Renteria.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the interesting part
Cashman said the decision was his alone and he informed manager Joe Girardi of the move.
The manager had no say in the matter?
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He's not a player, so those rules don't apply
You may be / are probably right, but we don’t know the terms of his contract.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of shit TV
How about an Undercover Boss where the executive doesn’t happen to work with someone with a sick kid?
unscripted TV should really be renamed onescripted tv, like newspapers
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He weighs 400 lbs. Be hard for him to go undetected.
In Arkansas?
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Overcompensating for the reply fail only calls more attention to the reply fail!!
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Only until you refresh, or try to reply to the reply fail!
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I probably have the worst TV guilty pleasure in this community
Desperate Housewives. Of course the leading ladies are close to my age…. Mindless entertainment that is perfect for 9 P.M. on Sunday when I am numb from the w/e.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call it horrible
anymoreso then I would call any procedural cop drama horrible. So far end of season five beginning season 6 has been the best of what I’ve watched.
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There are a lot of times where I just have to suspend desbelief
like when a lawer interjects every time their client starts to speak, until randomly they just shut their mouths and let their clients confess to the entire crime.
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There’s some real stinkers among SVU. Like the ep where a MMO helps a serial rapist escape murder. Another one where a pedophile uses the New York version of the Amber Alert to pin his crimes on other pedophiles, and Prison Rape the musical.
Oh yes
there are some really shitty ones, but like I said, is that any different then CSI or any other procedural crime dramas? Sometimes they try so hard to be hip and edgy it hurts.
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Eric is less Undercover Boss
and more Undercover Brother
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
it provided a vehicle for the triumphant return of Neil Patrick Harris, and Eddie Griffin was just hilarious.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
My Godzilla slippers have arrive
though for some reason my dogs didn’t enjoy me stomping around after them
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My first desktop
was a IBM 486 with a 33 Hz processor and 4 GB of RAM.
by silverwidow on Oct 25, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
My first desktop (really my dad's)
Apple II+ with 48K of RAM. K !
Dad, a CPA, ran VisiCalc on it – and wrote it (or at least a fraction of it) off.
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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s similar to my first desktop. It had a turbo button.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Made it a blazing fast 133 mhz!
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egads
what a looser
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she was referring to my spelling
although maybe thats the standard spelling in your part of the world.
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I'm
trained to use that spelling by another blag I frequent. I way of playfully calling someone a loser.
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just like "i way"
is a playful way of saying “my way”?
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
It actually started as a way to poke fun
at a frequent Titans fan who was trying to troll the board, horrible spelling and all.
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More like reverse holocaust
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I couldn't play that game long enough to get good at it
The first-person perspective gave me headaches.
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what the heck does the Turbo button do, and why doesn’t the computer just do that all the time? Was their nitrus in your tower?
by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Its like overclocking
it can be harmful to the computer to run at those speeds for an extended period of time. Or it was just louder.
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Why do they do this - I mean its's not like Minnesota now gets to add 4 points to its final score
RT @JuddZulgad: Childress told by NFL today that Shiancoe TD should have stood and not been overturned.
No real reason to watch
DR league this winter. Not many Dodger kids and no Lima. What happened to the good old days when Loney and Kemp would bat a combined .225 for Licey?
Keith
Do you think Malcolm Sheppard could be a pro level lineman and got screwed in the draft by his injury?
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Are you talking about the actual topic of this thread?
It is generally accepted that the PCL is a hitter’s league and especially in ballparks at high altitude (5300 feet for the Isotopes).
Manny had hernia surgery
http://twitter.com/Enrique_Rojas1/status/28721749081
Will our LF be ready for next year? ;)
is he ours
because we’re still paying him?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 25, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
COLLUSION!1111111
says Barry Bonds
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Why did I just agree to interview in Colton tomorrow?
The traffic alone getting up there is going to kill me.
You're desperate
and you want to get together with Eric later. It’s not THAT much further.
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make money money
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NALAOT
New and lightweight article on top.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/10/25/1773786/coaching-connections-alcs-teams-and-the-dodgers
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but now keith will never see my question
woe is me
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