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Dodger Coaching Staff Taking Shape With Wallach, Honeycutt On Board

The 2011 Dodgers coaching staff is beginning to take shape, as two spots appeared to be filled today with the return of Rick Honeycutt and Tim Wallach out of the running for the managerial job in Milwaukee. ESPN LA's Tony Jackson reported on Wallach:

Wallach confirmed via text message Monday that he is out of the running for the Brewers job. Brewers general manager Doug Melvin has narrowed his search to four finalists -- with former Seattle Mariners and Arizona Diamondbacks manager Bob Melvin and Chicago White Sox bench coach Joey Cora widely reported to be two of them -- and Wallach isn't among them.

Wallach will likely be the third base coach under Don Mattingly in his first season as manager, and will be joined by pitching coach Rick Honeycutt, per Ken Davidoff of Newsday:

Rick Honeycutt has agreed to return to the #Dodgers as their pitching coach.

Honeycutt is the longest tenured Dodger coach in uniform, and 2011 will be his sixth season as pitching coach of the Dodgers. He has been with the team since 2001, and was a pitcher with the Dodgers from 1983 to 1987.

Jackson also reported that former Royals manager Trey Hillman is the leading candidate to be Mattingly's bench coach, something that has also been reported by Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. Last week, Gurnick outlined the rest of the staff, speculating Jeff Pentland, Chili Davis, and Manny Mota as hitting coaches/instructors, and Ken Howell returning as bullpen coach. Gurnick also noted:

It's unclear who the Dodgers are considering as first-base coach, but it figures to be someone well-regarded in base running. Mariano Duncan, who has had the role since 2006, was told he could seek a Major League job elsewhere and, if he didn't find one, would have a role in the organization, but not likely on the Major League staff.

The Dodgers haven't yet made an announcement on any of the coaching staff, but will likely do so once all positions are set.

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Tony Jackson also reported in that article that Lorenzo Bundy could be Albuquerque bound
Meanwhile, Wallach’s replacement as manager at Albuquerque has been tentatively set. Lorenzo Bundy, who preceded Wallach in that job, also will succeed him, according to multiple sources. But one of those sources said that will change if Bundy lands a major league coaching position.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Per the Dodger media guide and Baseball-Reference.com

Here’s Bundy’s coaching history:

1990-94: manager in Expos’ minor league system
1995-96: coach in Marlins’ system
1997: manager of A+ temam in Marlins’ system
1998: Marlins’ OF and baserunning coach
1999: Rockies’ bullpen coach
2000-02: coach in Rockies’ system
2002: coach in Red Sox system
2007-2008: manager of Triple A Las Vegas
2009: D-Backs 1B coach
2010: manager of Arizona League Dodgers

He has also managed in the Mexican Winter League (I’m guessing 2003-2006), twice winning manager of the year

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

thebaseballcube.com lists the following for Bundy
1990	Gulf Coast Expos	   GCL	Rk	mtl	Manager	 
1991	Sumter	            SAL	A	mtl	Manager
1992	Albany	            SAL	A	mtl	Manager
1993	Burlington	        Midw	A	mtl	Manager
1994	Burlington	        Midw	A	mtl	Manager
1995	Brevard County	        FSL	A+	fla	Hitting Coach
1996	Brevard County	        FSL	A+	fla	Hitting Coach
1997	Brevard County	        FSL	A+	fla	Manager
1998	Florida Marlins	        NL	MLB	fla	Minor league outfield and baserunning coach
1999	Colorado Rockies	NL	MLB	col	Bullpen Coach
2000	Colorado Rockies	NL	MLB	col	Minor league outfield and baserunning coach
2001	Colorado Rockies	NL	MLB	col	Minor league outfield and baserunning coach
2002	Pawtucket	        IL	AAA	bos	Hitting Coach
2003	El Paso	            Tex	AA	ari	Hitting Coach
2004	Arizona Diamondbacks	NL	MLB	ari	Bench Coach
2004	Tucson	            PCL	AAA	ari	Hitting Coach
2005	Tucson	            PCL	AAA	ari	Hitting Coach
2006	Tucson	            PCL	AAA	ari	Hitting Coach
2007	Las Vegas	        PCL	AAA	lad	Manager
2008	Las Vegas	        PCL	AAA	lad	Manager
2009	Arizona Diamondbacks	NL	MLB	ari	First Base Coach	
2010	Arizona Dodgers	    Ariz	Rk	lad	Manager

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooh that's cool

I didn’t know they went that deep on the coaching tree. Outstanding. Thanks.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

thebaseballcube

keeps trying harder. The baseball jobs section is nice.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

1B coach
first-base coach … someone well-regarded in base running

Former Mattingly teammate Roberto Kelly? He’d have to be hired away from the Giants though.
I guess Davey Lopes has no interest in leaving Philly to come to LA.
Brett Butler? He managed AAA for Arizona last year (in Reno) and was the DBacks 1B coach in ’05.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Your theory takes bringing in better baserunners?

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lopes would come to LA with Werth?

Seems unlikely.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Romo

has a broken left clavicle.

Fuckin sweet.

ugh

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Trade for Leinart = Super Bowl.

Slightly kidding.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’m not pleased right now.

Jon Kitna isn’t a stud.

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will take Jay Ratcliffe plz

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

or any CB on your roster as I'm sure they are all better then ours.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch the second half and see if you still want Orlando Scandrick or Alan Ball.

Jenkins and Newman are hurt, or are playing very little because of injury.

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think you understand how bad

the texans secondary is right now. We have one CB who could start on any another teams roster, a rookie who might be good next year starting alongside him, a 2nd year 5th round pick as the nickle, and a 5th round pick rookie as the dime. Yeah, I’ll take them for leinart, if Schuab goes down we are fucked anyways.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

woops 6th round pick sophomore as nickel

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ours is as bad as the Texans.

Easily.

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question for you

and I don’t mean to antagonize you with the Cowboys struggling, especially since this also applies to the Chargers…

Was everyone just wrong about Dallas and/or San Diego in their preseason predictions? I mean, I get that they could definitely be overrated, but they aren’t this bad, right?

Is it just time to blow out the coach and/or some assistants and try to salvage this season, if not try to build for next year?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wade Phillips.
Norv Turner.
QED.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The defense has had injuries. The offensive line has been poor. The play calling is atrocious.

They are the most penalized team in football.

I am all for blowing up the coaching staff, but Jerry isn’t gonna do that because that is what everyone wants and he does what HE wants.

Wade Phillips is horrible. Jason Garrett is not much better. Hope we finish 1-15 and get a good draft pick and a new staff in the offseason.

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a city thing

They were wrong about the Rangers and Padres too

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chargers haven't been able to put points on the board

losing Vince Jackson has hurt

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

lots of fumbles and penalties

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

a lot of it is that holes were plugged with inexperienced people

by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

20 year olds

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and don't tell me that wasn't planned

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

not mint specifically

That comment was like low hanging fruit

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

talking about Sean Avery’s ex-girlfriend’s and unplanned occurances again?

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

FYI

Tim Wallach wore #25 with the Dodgers in 2004, and #29 in 2005.

Since Lilly is back for 2011, I would guess Wallach would wear #25 in 2011. Then again, I can’t remember what number Wallach was wearing when he was on the coaching staff at the end of the year. Maybe 26?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Technically Wallach wasn’t in uniform at the end of the year, because the team can only have 6 uniformed coaches during the game, so I guess that part is moot.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly wore #30 with the Cubs though

(XPaul’s number this past year) and #31 with Toronto and Oakland (Jay Gibbons), so who know what he’ll want for 2011.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wallach wore #25 in '93, #29 in '94-'96

and #29 with the Expos. 29 has gotta be his preference.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

3B coach or $33 million? Hmmm… :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am so sad I missed most of last thread

I was giggling and started to comment…and then I realized no one would see it. Dang.

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Life as a mod

I read all the late comments in the old threads. Lately, a lot of them are by IVironAndSteel.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool Dudes is another notorious late machine gun poster.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might be like 3 dudes sharing a login and only one realizes that no one goes back there!

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shoot first and repeatedly and let God sort it out.

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid job :(

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 25, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of a iviron moment

i had a brief conversation with THE EX (not recent, just the white whale ex who got away etc etc) and IT WAS AN AMAZINGLY CATHARTIC EXPERIENCE! WOOHOOO! I feel great. Jackass is done!

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean his life is shitty

and your glad you bailed when you did?

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

I mean he won’t be able to mess mine up anymore, I got closure :)

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

closure

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not Ivdown-ish, I haven’t talked to my ex since the middle of the summer :P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

listened to me!!! yes!

by delias man on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still go back and check the old threads

they don’t have to die immediately, people are just trained to let it happen that way. I’ve gotten used to monitoring multiple threads at once on other blogs.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So....

Anybody know anything about Pentland if he becomes hitting coach? He’s got a lot of work to do around here.

by Mike Dennis on Oct 25, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

He was the hitting coach for the Mariners but got fired in mid 2008. And then he was the temporary Dodgers hitting coach for a short while alongside Mattingly came back in 2008. Then he was the roving Instructor in the minors for the Dodgers for the next two years.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pentland was on the major-league

coaching staff this season. He is a pretty old dude, having been a college teammate of Reggie Jackson’s at ASU. He was also the hitting coach at ASU from 1985 – 1993.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

If PEDs are reason #1 for Sammy Sosa’s rise in 1998, Pentland was reason #2.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beisbol was very very good to him.

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

bery bery

Oh wait, you hate berys.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think strawberries are really a berry

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just assume these days anything with berry in the name isn't a berry

I’m right more often then not.,

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

an eggplant is a berry

BOOM, YOUR MIND IS BLOWN

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even know

what to believe anymore

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The botanical definition of a berry is a fleshy fruit produced from a single ovary

Bonds today?

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has been on the Dodgers’ coaching staff since July 1, 2008.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

right after being fired as the Mariners hitting instructor.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eli Manning

sucks.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Dallas D has to be getting worn out

21 minutes on the field to 12 for their offense

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL @ Gruden calling Snead an OG

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Offensive Guard

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why I laughed. nolander is just a buzzkill

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heading to the liquor store.

Dallas makes me drink.

Be back drinking in an hour or so.

/sobs

by keithc13 on Oct 25, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

That's almost a haiku

Dallas makes me drink
Heading to the liquor store
Back in an hour

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

31 consecutive points scored by the NY Giants, eh?

I hope the Giants / Dallas matchup in the WS goes better for the Texas side.

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by David Young on Oct 25, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I just saw on the screen

Total yards:

NYG: 407
Dallas: 78

Wow.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's

incredible

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

his clavicle is beta

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wade Phillips is ome-goner

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 25, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach’s job to make sure the backup is ready, GM’s job to make sure said backup is not Jon Kitna. Who gets more blame?

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't follow football

but I seem to remember the Cowboys having QB related problems a few years back and people were calling for Romo…kind of, I guess the opinions were ambivalent.

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by Maddz on Oct 25, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

C'mon now

Jerry Jones will never point the finger at himself… Not saying it’s Phillips fault, but he’ll take the fall for it…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 25, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Kitna is probably one of the better backup QBs in the game

lets be realistic, there are probably half a dozen to a dozen teams in the NFL that aren’t happy with their STARTING QB position, let alone their backups.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see why the Cowboys don’t just sign Matt Barkley, that guy seems pretty good

by Josie Becker on Oct 25, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s already on USC’s payroll

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

I"m pretty sure based on the commentators I listened to last year, Barkley is already in the HoF.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants are just like Sean Avery's ex-girlfriends...

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 25, 2010 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

sloppy seconds?

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

just the sloppy part… not the seconds

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 25, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

Does Rod Barajas get an arbitration offer? If so, does he accept? If so, how much can he expect to make? He is a Type-B, for what it’s worth.

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by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:04 PM PDT reply actions  

He should, unless management really does buy into Ellis' improvement...

And yes, he accepts… Not sure how much he’ll make…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Oct 25, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no reason to offer arbitration. He’s not a type a or be FA

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

but as a Type-B we’d get a Supplemental round pick if he signed elsewhere

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and yes.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see them work out a deal beforehand. Probably anywhere in the $1-2m range.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect this as well. For all of his gushing over being a Dodger, we’d have to seriously try to take advantage of him for him to not re-sign.

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Along these lines

I hope Raffy gets 599 amazing ABs next year so his option doesn’t vest, but that he stays a Type-A and we can offer him arbitration. If things stay the way they are, there’s not a chance in hell we get anything from him but a pat on the back and a ‘Thanks for the 60mil’

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by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell even Casey Blake is a Type-A right now.

I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.

by G.Scott on Oct 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could always accept, you know.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which would probably be pricey

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Braves would just sign him.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't get what happened there

where the braves stupid, or did some shady stuff actually happen?

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

misunderstood voice mail message

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats it?

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Essentially, IIRC, Furcal’s agent left a message for Frank Wren, saying something like, “looks good, I’ll talk to Rafael and get back to you tomorrow,” and Wren heard “looks good” and nothing else, forgetting that signed contracts are needed in MLB apparently. :)

That is a loose interpretation, admittedly.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Braves were able to sign Furcal, they would have been able to trade Yunel Escobar for something better than Alex Gonzales.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the Chattanoogan:

At Kinzer’s request, Wren faxed a signed term sheet that outlined the offer. This was the action that gave the Braves every reason to believe a verbal agreement was, indeed, in place.

A Major League general manager who wasn’t involved in these negotiations confirmed on Tuesday that term sheets aren’t sent to the agent until a verbal agreement has been made.

From the ATL Journal-Constitution:

The Braves believed they had reached an agreement with Furcal on a three-year, $30 million contract with a fourth year vesting option. At Kinzer’s request, they faxed the agent a term sheet Tuesday morning for Furcal’s signature. A term sheet is considered the final step of negotiations. But Kinzer took the offer back to Los Angeles and used it as leverage.

Schuerholz said he phoned Tellem on Wednesday night.

"I expressed my great disappointment to him," he said. "I watched as Frank shared with me the circumstances of his negotiations with Furcal — negotiations to the point where we increased our offer, and he [Kinzer] then asked for a signed term sheet to be sent over. We never got that signed term sheet faxed back to us, and we later found out why — because they took that offer and shopped it."

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinzer's story

from AOL Fanhouse:

“They (Braves) know we didn’t have a signed contract, that we didn’t have even a verbal agreement,” said Kinzer, hours before Wren gave a very different account. “We had, ‘Things look very good and Raffy’s going to sleep on it.’”

“It’s not done until we sign off and there’s a physical exam,” he told ESPN.com Tuesday, “and we haven’t gotten that far. Until a letter of agreement is signed, we don’t even start the process to get him to Atlanta for a physical.”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

so a little iffy, but the braves may have overreacted.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frank Wren turned to the J.D. Drew chapter in Ned Colletti’s Big Book of GM Overreacting

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think JD Drews was worse, I mean if he told them to their faces he was coming back, thats pretty lame.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That seems so long ago

golly

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a big difference in saying “my wife and I like it here” and telling Ned to his face he was coming back.

Drew opting out was plain to see coming from miles away. To everyone except Ned, apparently.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Drew said during the season he had no plans to exercise the opt out, it’s not hard to realize that things in season are different than the offseason.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 25, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I remember

was he said to neds face after the season that he wouldn’t opt out, not that he liked it there and wasn’t leaving, but perhaps I’m wrong.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm

can’t find any mention of it, guess I was wrong. in other news, I love me some onion http://www.theonion.com/articles/brawl-clears-benches-of-everyone-but-jd-drew,6674/

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Law and Order SVU - Game(gta themed episode)

One of the worst hours of television all time? I contend yes. Bad acting, bad script, bad music, bad directing, bad cinemetography, bad editing, and a nonsensical depiction of technology? Yep, its all there.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

How was it GTA themed

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Oct 25, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The game that the kids played

and then emulated was a stupid GTA clone, where the point of the part of the game they where playing was specifically to run over and stomp on the hookers. Then they of course made the developers into the game into callous assholes.

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO did this get posted? Brian Wilson punking fox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrkSElfm7Lk&feature=player_embedded#t=0m35s

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

chris rose that is

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by nolander on Oct 25, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

when Rose was screaming "Did you see that??!!!"

I thought he meant his putrid shirt.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Oct 25, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aubrey Huff came over.

Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 25, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't surprise me if this is the last year of compensation picks

It doesn’t benefit the Player’s union and teams would probably like to get rid of it too.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

If you just add two comp picks at the end of the round instead when you sign a player, you can still have the benefit of comp picks and none of the hassles.

Although I find it amusing that its a problem now when compensation is finally becoming the deterrent that it was created to be after years of teams not valuing first round picks.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is a system

where any half decent reliever is worth the same as Cliff Lee.

Also, it would create more honesty when it comes to teams offering arbitration.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you get rid of compensation, I think you also have to let teams trade picks.

Frankly, you should let the Yankees trade their first rounder each year for players that they want and see how far that gets them.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not against that

but I don’t see how they are tied together.

They could tie in slotting and do that.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the compensation is usually a first rounder, you can’t just trade that away.

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes,but that’s not easy when I’m used to go to sleep at 2AM

by Tripon on Oct 25, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger prospects in the AFL yesterday

Ivan De jesus – 0-fer, BB, 2 K’s
Trayvon Robinson – 2-4, HR
Jerry Sands – 2-3, 2B, BB

by Julio Nievas on Oct 26, 2010 12:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Trayvon is leading the league in walks with 9, but also tenth in strikeouts with 9 as well. Sands has walked 6 times and has struck out 3 times in 20 AB’s

by Julio Nievas on Oct 26, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

What position did Sands play yesterday?

by OB12 on Oct 26, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Driving to work listening to police scanner

and could not believe call to gate 75b to check out car blocking United flight from departing. wouldn’t authorized cars know not to park behind a plane? crazy.

by delias man on Oct 26, 2010 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I would never park behind a plane

by keithc13 on Oct 26, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems like you want to get fired.

by robotmadeofnails on Oct 26, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

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