So that is how a World Series team is built - Part Two
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2010 1:50 PM PDT
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PrintWith the position players done, we move onto the rotation.
Rangers - Cliff Lee was the ace everyone coveted for the stretch run and if the rumors are true the Yankee's were their biggest competition for him. The scuttlebutt is that the Yankee's offered up Montero but we will never know for sure. What we do know is that the Rangers offered up their top prospect as bait and the Mariners swallowed it whole. Has anyone had a larger impact as a rental player then Cliff Lee in the postseason? Not sure but you can bet when someone says those mid - season trades never pan out, his name will be sure to pop up first in rebuttal.
Giants - Tim Lincecum was the freak of the 2006 draft class. Seemed like no one knew what to make of him, but the Giants shrugged off the concerns of the teams who drafted Hochevar, Reynolds, Lincoln, Morrow, Miller, Stubbs, and Rowell before him and plucked him with 10th pick.
Rangers - CJ Wilson started six games in 2005, since that year he appeared in 234 games as a relief pitcher, doing well enough he was the part time closer from 2007-2009. He lost the closer job in 2009 to Mr. Feliz, and the setup job to Frank Francisco so he said WTF, give me a chance to start. So they did. Viola, the Rangers found their best starter from their own team, in the bullpen (until they traded for Cliff Lee). This just does not happen enough. The 29 year old threw 205 innings in the regular season after having thrown 234 the previous four seasons combined. I figured at best, Wilson would fill out the back end of the rotation. Little did I think he'd be the guy following Cliff Lee in the post season rotation.
Giants - Jonathan Sanchez lost his rotation spot in on June 22nd, 2009 with a 5.54 ERA with most of the damage coming via 44 walks in just 66 innings. Then someone got hurt and Sanchez was thrust back into the rotation on July 10th against the Padres for his date with history. He gave up zero hits, more importantly he walked no one, while striking out 11. From that day on Jonathan Sanchez became an integral part of the formidable Giant rotation. He never walked more then four players in a game the rest of the year while striking out 109 in just 93 innings. It took a while for Sanchez to get to this point, but it also took fellow wild left hander Randy Johnson a while to arrive. Luckily for the Giants they were patient and didn't trade him for a relief pitcher or right handed 1st baseman like Jorge Cantu.
Rangers - Colby Lewis was originally a hot shot prospect for the Rangers, drafted in the 1st round (38th pick) of the 1999 draft. Lewis shot through the minor league system and was in the rotation by 2003, but the ballyhooed prospect was awful. Not just kind of awful, all sorts of awful, giving up 163 hits in only 127 innings, along with 70 walks. He was even worse in 2004 when he walked more then struck out so they finally checked him out and found a torn rotator cuff. He was done for 2005 and the Rangers put him on waivers in 2006 and eventually ended up in Japan. That was where he started his comeback, and two years later was a free agent that anyone could sign. The Rangers came calling and gave him a simple two year five million dollar deal and what they got in return was the prospect they thought they had back in 2003. 201 innings, almost 200 strikeouts (196), a walk rate below three, a K rate above 8.0, a whip of 1.18 in Arlington? What a trip it has been for Colby Lewis, what a steal he was for the Rangers.
Giants - Matt Cain was drafted in the 1st round of the 2002 draft with the 22nd pick. By the age of 20 he was pitching for the Giants. By the age of 21 he was a permanent fixture in their rotation. From the age of 21 - 25 he has never pitched less then 190 innings, he has a career ERA+ of 128, he is a model consistency when you look at his seasons and ignore the ups and downs of the regular season. He is a horse. He is exactly what you'd hope to get with a first round pick.
Rangers - Tommy Hunter was the 1st round pick in 2007 for the Rangers (54th pick). This was not supposed to be his gig, this was supposed to be Rich Hardens. Rich Harden however seemed to have lost the ability to pitch even when he's not on the DL so Tommy Hunter inherited this gig. Or it was supposed to be Scott Feldman. Anyone remember him. In 2009 he was the Rangers best pitcher. Now he's an afterthought. Or it could have been Derek Holland who I think is better then Hunter but they are in the World Series so whatever I think should just be discounted. Hunter also moved fast. All these number one picks moved fast, and just two years after being drafted was in the Ranger rotation. He doesn't strike out anyone though you wouldn't know it by the way he k'd the Rays before they knocked him out. I'm not a big fan, this is a weak link, but they do have Holland the direct opposite of Hunter. Holland was not drafted until the 25th round of 2006. Holland strikes out hitters at almost twice the rate of Hunter. Holland will clean up whatever mess Hunter creates. 25th round draft pick!
Giants - Madison Bumgarner Jiminy Crickets another number one draft pick. Another 10th pick. I don't remember the Giants being so bad they could draft Posey, Lincecum, and Bumgarner. Man, I hope we don't have a run as bad as that. Unless of course it means we end up in a World Series. Bumgarner was considered a Kershaw like talent when he was drafted and was on the fast track until something happened to his velocity in 2009. Whatever it was corrected itself and he pitched himself in to the rotation by June 26th. He had some ups and downs but when Sept rolled around he rolled over the competition. In 32 innings, 31 K's, only 4 walks, 1.13 ERA, an more telling an .590 OPS against. The kid had arrived just in time.
We are only going to see four starters from each team. The Giants have the most expensive bench players in baseball watching these games in Barry Zito. They built their rotation with number one picks. The Rangers built theirs with astute trading Cliff Lee, astute foresight to move CJ Wilson to the rotation, astute free agency signing of Colby Lewis, and a number one pick in Tommy Hunter.
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Lineups
Winners
Andrus SS
Young 3B
Hamilton CF
Guerrero RF
Cruz LF
Kinsler 2B
Molina C
Moreland 1B
Lee P
Losers
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Ross RF
Huff 1B
Uribe 3B
Renteria SS
Lincecum P
5 players from their Opening Day lineup (with Vlad now in the field)
Julio Borbon CF
Mike Young 3B
Josh Hamilton LF
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Nelson Cruz RF
Chris Davis 1B
Jarrod Saltalamacchia C
Andres Blanco 2B
Elvis Andrus SS
Scott Feldman P
Blanco does not count
because Kinsler was hurt, but yup that was the 2010 lineup they expected to the regular deal.
But then you have Sandoval so
among those 4, 3 of them (Sanchez, Uribe, Renteria, and Sandoval) will probably start this series unless Bochy goes back to Fontenot.
I thought
in the original trade that Saltalamacchia alone was going to be worth the Teixeira trade. I always laugh that a year later then then traded Teixeira for Kotchman by himself. Pretty much a big fail all around for Braves.
Surprised Xeifrank is not running a World Series Simulation Contest
Rangers 3 – Giants 1 Complete game for Lee
David Murphy with a two run pinch hit home run ini the 7th inning.
Rangers 2 – Giants 1 as Brian Wilson blows it in the ninth. Strangely, the camera finds Casey Blake, of all people, in the stands…
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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You’re one of those “period header” people?!?!?
They got to you, too…..
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
you can’t leave phrases open ended like that. “period header”
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn your logic
Hmm, Vlady hurt himself playing LF when he stumbled over the pitching mound in the foul area?
8 playoff starts for Lee
All 7 innings or more
5 of last 6 starts with 10+ K
5 starts with 0 walks
1 more start with 1 walk
24 IP, 2 runs, 1 BB, 34 K this postseason
Giants offense was 13th in the NL in walks, but 12th in strikeouts. Expect some balls in play.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean the devil is coming to town
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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Michael Young came up in 2000
so he’s been in a MLB game as a Ranger for 11 straight seasons.
Today’s lineup for the Giants has played a total of 13 part or full years as a Giant, none prior to 2009 season.
However, going into this year, their first 5 man rotation has 119 or so games started as a Ranger prior to 2009. The Giants playoff rotation had over 300 games started as Giants.
Who scores more on the Staples Center floor tonight?
Rasual Butler or Mike?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to be making it rain out there. They can’t stop me.
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would easily bet my house on Mike
since he is going to be playing multiple games, however shooting % might be another story. He looks like a big and slow white guy so we shall see if he can get his shot off.
I'm lost
I’m trying to figure out how many games Guerrero has started at RF in AT&T park, but this Batting Game finder on b-r doesn’t seem to be a thing that work
you've fed me
but haven’t taught me to fish
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
play index
enter Vlad’s name
click batting game finder
uncheck all positions, then check RF
select AT&T Park
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
here’s where I went wrong apparently : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll still make my argument though that their are a bunch of adjustments that can only be made in game at AT&T park with that damn wall, so Vlad’s experience should come in handy, even if he looks like he’s patrolling the outfield with a segway
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm more hoping that he crushes a home run to make up for
an inevitable miscue in the field.
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Werth
what kind of contract does he get this offseason? Would you give him 3/45 if you were the Dodgers? Would he want at least a four-year deal? He does solve 2 big issues — OF defense and power. His injury history and age work against him, so it’s another Ned signing that would make me shudder.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
So they are still giving out 5 year deals
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we need not only to replace 2008-09 Manny’s bat but improve on Andre’s defense or this team will be worse next year than it was this year. I’m not in favor of this
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Werth doesn't do that?
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If he plays in right
then eithier defense will be better, and he is as good an option as any to replace Manny.
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Werth does that, which is why I’m wondering while Azure would pass
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah so you are not in favor of passing.
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I’m not in favor of 2011 being worse than 2010, and I tried to explain why I feel passing on Werth would cause such a thing to happen
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
seems like the Yanks and Tigers are going to be fighting over him, which makes me think Werth is the better first option, before the Yanks throw money at him
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes I just misinterpreted what you where passing on.
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I’m not so much in favor of 2011 being worse than 2010 so much as I’m wondering if it’s possible to start planning now so that 2013 or 2014 isn’t worse than 2010. Maybe it isn’t possible to make such a plan. But I don’t know…
Is now the right time to get a franchise player? Is Werth or Crawford good enough, and likely to remain good enough, to be that player that the Dodgers can build around? I dunno.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
all I’m saying is that Manny is the last person we tried that with, and I’d like the organization to consider going after someone with 4 years in them as opposed to 1.25, and hopefully we’ll continue to grow from there
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You sound gunshy of free agency in general
We need a bat, badly. I don’t think there is anyone that much better thats going to hit free agency that won’t cost a ton more then these two, so yeah I’m totally fine with signing them.
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My biggest fear with Werth is that he won’t put up the types of numbers he did in Philly if he is with the Dodgers. The Dodgers lineup isn’t as good and the stadium is harder to hit in. I still want him, I just fear that fans, media, and reactionary management would sour on him fairly quickly.
haven’t we already done his road splits. Philly hasn’t boosted his numbers. It’s not like the Dodgers would be getting their own Aaron Rowand.
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree, and I also admit nolander’s and josie’s points. I AM gunshy about free agency — right now. I think this is the wrong time to be hitching our wagon to any player. I think too much has to shake out with this team. I think one or two years down the road things will be a lot clearer.
That said, yes, that pretty much means I’m waving the white flag on 2011, which no one else wants to do. I admit that I might be wrong to be doing that.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
we just don’t know how much of this unit will be around past 2012. That seems to be the year to blow up the ship
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
In my mind:
The ship has sailed and found an iceberg. At this point we should be looking at what the Dodgers can salvage for “the core 2.0.”
if I’m reading your metaphor correctly, we greatly misjudged our young talent, and should start all over with a new batch?
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically, yes. There are some pieces that look promising going forward that are under control for a few years, and that should be the focus of building the next good Dodger team.
I expect 2011-12 to be strange in that the team isn’t as good as we thought and the next generation isn’t ready yet. I think the best plan would be to figure out which guys can bridge the gap and be part of the next good team.
Problem is this wave of prospects aren’t as good as the last wave (at least, comparing their prospect status then to this new wave now), so aiming to build around a bunch of mediocre to good prospects instead of a group of good to great prospects is a longshot bet, even as betting on prospects go.
I’m as excited as anyone for Trayvon, Sands, Gordon, etc, but Sands is really the only one with any chance of being a real offensive anchor, and his chances of being that are extremely slim. More likely his ceiling is something like Pat Burrell.
I'm in support of the white flag in 2011
I just don’t see how this team can get to be a WS contender next year. I was one of the few “blow it up” advocates on your fanpost.
So what you are worried about
is signing a guy, then finding out say sands or whoever is the real deal, but now has nowhere to play?
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There’s that. There’s also the idea of committing precious (I assume) salary space to a guy whose best years will come while the rest of the team is just not good enough. Better to save that money, invest it elsewhere, and spend it when the team is ready for the pennant push.
Of course, this assumes that the Dodgers have a hard salary limit and that the team is near that limit. If neither is true, I suppose they can sign whomever they like.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I just feel
that a bat like Werth or Crawford actually makes us contenders next year, but I’m optimistic. Either way with one of those two I think we could compete in 2012 if 2011 doesn’t shake out.
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You are more optimistic about a bounce-back from the core than I am.
I think we can count on an 850 OPS from Ethier.
I think Furcal will be good when he plays, which won’t be enough.
I think we can count on Martin and Loney being lousy again. Blake will be lousy. Theriot will be lousy.
I have no idea what to expect from Kemp. None whatsoever.
Into that we either plug somebody cheap and lousy, like Podsednik, or somebody expensive and good, like Crawford or Werth. I have no desire to watch Podsednik play every day, but I just don’t know if the team would compete either way. And if they won’t — and if we can count on management to be honest partners that would invest the savings in the future of the team — then I say punt and look to the future.
Of course, management has given us little reason to believe that they are honest partners where team finances are concerned. If the choice is Werth-and-no-championship or Podsednik-and-no-championship-and-another-McCourt-mansion, well…..
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think that this is well thought out.
In the end we will end up with a middling choice in left.
I liked the way you described your position in this post, Humma.
[clink]
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as I'm allowed to swim between 02:00 - 04:00
at the new mansion I have no problem with Podboy and another McCourt mansion:)
I'm worried about committing big money
To a guy who probably won’t get us over the hump in his first two years of the deal, and then will get to be 34/35 years toward the end of the deal while collecting even bigger money since the contract would likely be front-loaded.
I’m also worried about the guy coming back to a pitcher’s park since his OPS and slugging was over 100 points higher at home in Philly.
I'm not pimping Werth specifically
but I’m simply not in the camp that this team can’t compete in 2011 or 2012.
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I'm in the camp
that simply adding Werth to this current team automatically makes us competitive in 2011 and 2012.
I'm just not that impressed with the rest of our division
and our pitching will probably be pretty good.
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exactly my reasoning
why can’t the 2011 Dodgers be the 2010 Giants, except for the fact that the Giants are assholes? I wanna see a WS dammit. Plus Werth is pretty much a 5-tooler in his prime.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
You may very well be right and I am just too pessimistic. If they were good enough with Manny-plus-core, why wouldn’t they be good enough with Werth-plus-core? I don’t have a good answer to that question.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the answer
is that the core sucked in 2010, but a re-energized core is what we have to hang our hat on, otherwise it will be long winter.
Agreed
If the Giants lineup can have an up year like this, than I think some of our guys can bounce back too.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
his power is legit
if anything his average will dip in the NL West and his speed with age, of course. If he’s healthy you pencil him in even if there’s a big shakeup in 2012 cos he’s better all-around than either Kemp or Ethier.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I would go for Werth
but a fifth year would be a bridge too far with all the holes they have to fill, unless they see increased revenue by then or some in-house options pan out like Gordon and Sands.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
A 4 year deal would be possible
But I don’t see any reason why Werth would sign for less than the $65m that Jason Bay got, if that was indeed the length.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I really love his arm. When he threw out the runner at third the other night, I just whimpered at how Andre would not come close.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
On whether the Dodgers should sign Werth (or Crawford)
I made this contention the other day, and I’ll make it again:
If you are prepared for the Dodgers’ best player over the next half-decade to be Werth (or Crawford), then by all means, sign Werth (or Crawford). But the Dodgers will not have the payroll flexibility to sign anyone better than that player.
Thoughts?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So what?
How many better then those players do you think we would go out and sign regardless?
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I like this new theory of tying our payroll up with someone at their peak, can you tell Ned about it?
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume you mean position player
Unless you are suggesting that a werth deal means they won’t be able to re-sign Kershaw.
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I do mean position player.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
and there is no guarantee of this at all but it used to be pretty standard that most people thought a player’s best years were at ages 27-29.
So if you think that Andre and Kemp will improve, do wait and see about those two and extend or do you sign players who ultimately will cost you more and be not worth it at the end of their deals.
Forbes Magazine is speculating that he’ll earn $200M over the next 6 years — but that includes endorsement deals.
I hate those numbers, cause then people start the rumors flying that he’s getting a $200 mill contract from someone
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
is that like the “David Beckham signs for $250million over 5 years” talk?
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
exactly. I still can’t believe they paid Haynesworth the $21mil. Imagine if baseball had contracts like the NFL.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Then Lee would be getting 60 million in guaranteed money
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Backloading bonuses
so that the deal never actually goes the full length. Yep.
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Not that I think he’s worth that, but if the Yankees get in on him why would that be out of the question? Granted, it would have to be structured like Sabathia’s with some option years.
He is four years older than CC was when he got 7/$161m.
No chance.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Somewhere in the 5-year range at $20-22 per year.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
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Well
at least thats what I think a sane contract would be. Yanks might just throw on the 6th year to get him to sign.
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Santana was what, 29 when he signed?
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Yep, 3 years younger than Lee.
Johan got 6/$137.5m. I would say the absolute max for Lee is 6/$150, and only from the Yankees, but 8/$200 is lunacy.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t see any team giving him a deal that is paying him $23-36M per year when he is 38-40.
He may get 6 years, but if he gets more than that in years…..I’d be shocked.
The money is more of a non-factor to me. I don’t think anyone would dispute that he should be paid as an elite pitcher. I think he’ll get between $20-26M per year.
No way Lee goes for that
His stock will never be higher than back-to-back WS with two different teams with his playoff record. The time to strike (on a long-term deal) is now.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
2 for 10000
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Right
that makes sense for a guy in his mid 20’s but for Lee this is his last contract. Most money will be the Yankee’s but I’m going to hope he does not take the best money offer like CC did.
I understand its hard when its like a 20 million dollar gap
but really what the hell is the difference between 150 million and 170. Would you REALLY notice the difference?
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20 million
hahahahaha so funny.
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This is why you can’t have nice things, SW :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
They were last week too but still didn’t sell out game 3! I assume the next two games are sold out :)
I bet the scalpers from Bayside are already drawing up plans for the kitchen remodel
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I once again have a soccer game up the street from where the Giants are playing
At least the game is at 7 and the WS game at 5, so getting there will be quiet but getting home might suck. Hoping for a long game!
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funny thing is
the town, Bart stations, etc is decorated in Orange and Black. Not sure if it’s decorated with the Giants or Halloween in mind.
yeah someone tweeted to MUNI diaries today that
they were pleased to see city honor the Giants with an orange colored fast pass. Not realizing that was decided ages ago and was in honor of Halloween. But hey, it’s all about the team.
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Yankees just declined options on Nick Johnson, Kerry Wood, and Lance Berkman.
I knew they wouldn’t pick up Berkman’s ($15M) and I was sure they wouldn’t Johnson bc of injuries.
Kerry Wood’s was $11M. That is big.
Boy he was dominant at the end of the year for the Yanks.
I bet he will cost between $5-7M per year.
That is crazy money for a non closer.
Going from Werth talk
to having Podboy being your left fielder is going to suck for a lot of you. I’m going to go with the lowest of expectations this winter and hopefully work my way up. Signing Lilly for that contract was already a huge shock to me. We have no idea what Mattingley thinks of Loney, if we don’t trade or non – tender him, then we know that Don thinks he is going to get better. I really can’t imagine Ned doing something with Loney without total input from Mattingley on him.
I wish we could platoon Blake with Loney
but then who would play 3rd on those days?
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It’s not their choice, as Beltre has a player option.
I don’t expect the Dodgers to sign Beltre anyway, I was just messing around.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
There really isn’t anyone out there who wouldn’t be a big risk, in a dollars sense and a them sucking sense.
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Would you all be happy with Dunn at 1b?
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I think I would actually prefer him to Werth or Crawford, because he would be cheaper and require fewer years.
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Which I think makes this scenario more realistic.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I still think we have to move Loney to someone in the offseason. I just don’t know who would want him. I would move him to Chicago with a SP prospect for Gorzelanny.
I doubt Chicago would do it, but I’d ask.
A lot of people will want loney
its just an issue of what we can get back
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I think with Loney and some prospects we should be able to get a 5th starter.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney + Sands
should get us some veteran moxy
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I think he could have a 30 hr season
and hit for a high percentage in a nice hitters park
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Ohil would have laughed at my joke.
Meercat? He’s the Tripon of that schizophrenia episode.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Why is it only 3:30
make this day eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeend
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by nolander on Oct 27, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I thought you loved your job
do you just hate your boss and love your job or hate your job and your boss?
You won't be smart about
you need to take the emotion out of the crime
so that you don’t do any time
actually, disavow all talk of this now
and wait until you become full of emotion. being smart gets you time; being crazed with heat of the moment, reduces it a bit.
The system comes down heavily
on subordinates killing their bosses, they don’t want it to happen to them. This is not a love/hate crime where everyone understands why they killed their spouse.
Its times like these meercat
where its better to ask for his forgiveness later then it is to ask for his permission now.
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Right
then you find out his boss was his dad, that Keith is shizo, and you killed the guy who had the day shift not the night shift.
We need Underdog to tighten up the script, and Humma to clean up the edges, and we can sell the shit out of this movie.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on it!
But to pitch to SyFy channel Keith’s boss needs to be disemboweled by a mutated sea creature.
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Then you sell the movie rights
and become rich
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Can’t sell your life rights to make money off of a crime you committed. Not since Son of Sam.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay this was my
real life fantasy that I wanted to sell.
You know how they have the ranches in Texas that big game hunters can go on and kill the big game. My real life fantasy is to take these hunters to my own private ranch, set em down, take away their guns and clothes, leave them alone on my ranch, put on live video feed, and see how they handle the wild against real wild animals. I’d put a grizzly, some wolves, coyotes, mountain lions, real lion, real tiger, buzzards, and of course meercats. They would have ten days to survive with only one water hole that they would all have to share.
Gentry can go first
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That would all be Maddz fault anyways
so I think we would be fine
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Do interracial love stories sell? Oh wait…
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure your plot outline
can only be done as a black comedy.
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I work till 6 :(
5:30 is in fact even worse
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All I can say about today
is fuck inclusion and exclusion polygons in the heart
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All I can say about today
is fuck celebrity publicity biographies in the heart.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Just boring as hell.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well UCLA lost some guys to pot smoking
and now one of Arkansas players got arrested, sounds like he is in more trouble.
Roger That
DD Jones is a starter at DT for us.
Got pulled over because he had one of the liscense plate bulbs go out.
Free agents
I just don’t like the idea of giving guys on the wrong side of 30 9 figures a year for 4+ years. Crawford to me is one of those players that’s awesome when you are paying him below market rates with no commitment than when you gotta give the guy 9 figures for 5+ years.
While it would make it a lot easier for us to luck our way into the WS with Crawford or Werth in left over Pod boy or whatever, I think all of their contracts are going to look pretty ugly after about 3 years.
Champions say
“Whateva, whateva, I do what I want!’
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Yes
thanks to Shannon Brown for clearing that up. Too bad Derek Fisher isn’t of latino decent in the slightest. Maybe it’s an LA reference?
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I think I remember Kobe saying once that they all call him that in the locker room
maybe on Kimmel or something like that
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Kobe compared Fisher’s locker room speeches to Obama at some point. Why they call him “El Presidente” and not “The President”…. iono.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
used to love the lineup
introductions back when the only time you saw those players was in an all-star game or the world series. Now I don’t care, get the game on.
so the Giants fans have Orange pom poms?
Sweet. It’s gonna be like watching an Auburn football game.
I like Auburns unis
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I love red more then the next guy
but these unis are sweet
Although I am a fan of hhow arkansas uses the white trim to complement the awesomeness of the color red
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Auburn’s uni’s are pretty awesome. One of the best home jerseys.
by Julio Nievas on Oct 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
its probabaly the only good jersey Under Armor does
I cant stand the street camo that they give South Carolina, and I just think Tech’s jerseys look cheap…I cant wait for SMU to get the new ADIDAS tech fit next year, the same ones UCLA and a few other schools are wearing this year
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Nation Disappointed By Great World Series Matchup
“I’d rather watch the Cubs play the White Sox,” Aaron Morrison, 32, said. “Because I need a stupid thing like both teams being from Chicago to get me interested. At least that World Series matchup would have a really good gimmick, and not have to rely on anything as lame as respectable athletes playing really great baseball.”
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by nolander on Oct 27, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
also
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by nolander on Oct 27, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Juan Uribe needs to keep his mouth shut about his hitting abilities because nobody wants to know the best hitter on the team is Juan Uribe.”
spit sammich on my newly clean keyboard after reading that, thanks a ton.
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I really enjoy
that most of this is just making fun of the giants
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This is true - ask underdog - though my Verizon phone worked sometimes
AmyKNelson
Trying to upload cool pics from my vantage point from my iPhone 4, but no cell service in AT&T park … #worldseries #irony
They can't float a cell tower out there?
#pathetic
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MLBTR profiles the top 5 draft bonuses the Dodgers have given out
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1. Zach Lee, $5.25MM (2010)
2. Clayton Kershaw, $2.3MM (2006)
3. Joel Guzman, $2.255MM (2001)
4. Ben Diggins, $2.2MM (2000)
5. Ethan Martin, $1.7325MM (2008)
I wonder how many teams have three busts in the top 5?
Probably most of them.
by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it too early to call Ben Diggins a bust?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
you need to set your sarcasm dial to “dripping”
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Lets go Rangers!!!!!!!!
Fuckin PUHHHHHHLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE win.
by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Elvis is the man
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Didn’t they lose the lawsuit that let them pretend Vitamin Water was good for you?
by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone got an idea when first pitch is tonight? like 600?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
wasnt paying attention
also convinced there was going to be a bunch of bullshit going on before because its fox
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely overblown prediction:
If Lincecum gets out of this (first-and-second, nobody out) with no runs scoring, the Giants will win the series.
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and
he doesn’t get out of it.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Vlad Guerrero playing right: most overblown story of the series, or most overblown story of the season?
Ken Griffey Jr. falling asleep in the clubhouse.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent
I was trying to come up with a Manny one, and forgot about that. Well played.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Thanks timmy
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By the way he is pitching, he is clearly infested with evil spirits.
I call for a trepanning!
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
LMFAO
LOLincecum
epic fail
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Um is Timmy high?
Wow, I almost feel bad for him there. That was almost a Dodgers in the playoffs style brain fart. ;-)
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For instance
Bob Schaefer would be really mad at this more. Wait, bad example…
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not actually sure what’s going on.
Did he throw to the wrong base or something?
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked the runner back to 3rd and never tried to throw to 1st
My guess is he thought bases were loaded for a second.
I guess it wasn’t the bases that were loaded?
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by underdog on Oct 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Grounder up the 3B line. He fielded it, and Michael Young was dead in between 3B and home. He began the rundown back to 3B, but then simply didn’t throw the ball, nor even try to throw it, and a befuddled Young got back to 3B safely.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He caught Young on a run down, well, not even caught actually. He let him back to base with out a throw
by Julio Nievas on Oct 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks everyone.
I almost enjoyed it more from everybody’s funny acounts then you people did watching it live.
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Even weirder, I have the game on mute and watched the play with even more of a WTF thought.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He scooped up the ball, looked at it, licked it and exclaimed “THE SNOZZBERRIES TASTE LIKE SNOZZBERRIES!”
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
by K3vo on Oct 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And yet they only get 1 run out of that
Hope that’s not like that Phillies 1st inning the other day.
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The Rangers are on pace for 9 runs tonight!
It’s math
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
If they only score 1 tonight after that I’m gonna hurt someone.
How many pitches for Bongcecum that inning?
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Stop jinxing it!
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The ump has a weird zone so far
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Nothing weird on that one tho
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Siddown
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Kliff
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Kliff beats Spliff!
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That strike 2 that Lincecum got in top of 1st against someone
that was way inside and low was pretty baffling
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Vlad in RF could be a problem
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LOL GIANTS
baserunning is hard
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Freddy Sanchez is also tripping balls.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Giants got lucky enough that inning
I was afraid that was gonna drop
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Bengie Molina bitches
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Eddie Cicotte on the mound for the Giants tonight
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Everyone else has been laying off that pitch
GET WITH THE GODDAMN PROGRAM MORELAND
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Makes the ladies in Cleveland puke.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
by K3vo on Oct 27, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
anyone but Molina score
bleh
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
well NOW lookie who wants to give him 8/200.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
1.6 billion for Lee?
A bargain at any price.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
But then
how the hell would he pay off Jamie?
She’ll need the cold, hard cash when she runs for president.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Bengie is too fat and too slow...
Lee is a great hitter (joke)
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WTF...
Kung Fu Panda can stole a base??
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Hey who win the 60 yards race: Bengie or Sandoval or Broxton??
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hahahahahah
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I have a five-pound package of flour that moves faster than Bengie.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is this guy??
Bonjourmadame.fr
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Ignorance is bliss, JoJo, in this case. Trust me.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Massive defensive tackle
who played for the ravens
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Sorry Eric i'm not a hardcore football fan...
EDIT: Tony is very fat… :O
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Too busy looking up pictures of french chicks?
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Michael
What do you mean by “French Chicks”??
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He means chicks what are French.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I fix my question for Michael
“French Chicks” = French Woman??
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Thanks
Not to busy looool…
Like I said in my signature, I log on to my favorite website each day at 10 AM…
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it’s fan to put those in the microwave.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I like candy!!!!
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and french chicks?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If you mean French Woman, I say YES...
But if you mean the chicken, I say NO
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That's true, I've had french chicken
it was bloody and smelly.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
So it tasted good...
I prefer a good beef…
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You prefer a good cheesecake.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I like cheesecake and cupcake...
I eat a lot of both at Starbucks in France
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I had steak in a Paris restaurant
on Thanksgiving in 2003. Fantastic.
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Hey French Cuisine is know for a good food...
I ate some steaks in America and it was no really good…
The only time when I liked it, it was in Vegas, an big steak, great taste…
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I love Beef Bourguignon...
So tasty…
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That's ok...
A good steak makes me happy :p
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Of Course
No, my mother’s family lives in LA and it will be my 1st trip overthere…
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I hope...
It’s my dream to see a Dodger game at Dodger Stadium…
But it’s very expensive now, I blame MC Court for increasing the ticket prices…
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Oh you definitely should!
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Yep...
I don’t want to spend 100$ for a game… Maybe 50$ is ok…
Soccer ticket matches is expensive as in baseball, especially in EPL…
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It’s only $100 if you want really really good seats. You can find a nice spot for $50. And I’m sure there are plenty here that would like to come along!
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
I saw on the Dodger website and there are a good spots for 50$
Now I’m just thinking which game I will choose…
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Is probably more agile then any of them
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2-0 Texas
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Jesus H. Christ
Benji,
It’s okay to carry that piano on your back, just don’t stop to play it.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
by G.Scott on Oct 27, 2010 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
oh man, that is funny.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
MOAR RUNS PLZ
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
If Lincecum pigtched for the dodgers
Colletti would trade him because he looks too mopey
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wasn’t he night putting with the Dean’s daughter? Oh wait, that was Mitch Cumstein.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Split the difference
Yes on dynamite, yes on Monte.
It has been too long since I have watched that film.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh fuck me you’re right. I should pay more attention to what I post.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I had to look it up to be sure
Double fail.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on board with this 1 run per inning thing.
/subscribe to newsletter
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Obligatory
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I don't know whether to hate or love this Dodge commercial
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I love me some Bengie Molina
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We wish Russell Martin was as good as Bengie Molina.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Russel Martin
is better, but doesn’t have the intangibles
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We wish russell martin was as good as david ross
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
KKliff
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
KKliff Lee
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
What a horrible suit by Rosenthal!!!!!!!
Bonjourmadame.fr
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Cody Ross remains Dodger loyal
Throwing bats at Giants fans
Sadly, no Giants fan was killed.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Wow
vlady really can’t move well can he
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Very ugly...
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Would it really be that difficult
for him to just play left?
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Vlad’s knees couldn’t handle catcher, tho.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still only on gameday
have these doubles been ripped, or a result of vlad being kinda slow
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Uh I think the last one was maybe a single
if he got there quicker
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KKKlif
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
So put the same contract as for CC Sabathia...
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As long as its not for Dee Gordon
scouts love him
by Michael White on Oct 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They can have three — Ben Diggins, Joel Guzman, and Ethan Martin.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
On second thought, no way — we spent $6 million on those guys. We need to get a $6 million player for them!
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 27, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Elementary school friend sends me facebook notice
“Leaked Lindsey Lohan threesome sex tape.”
Facebook is a weird thing.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Cliff Lee is NOT an ace!!!
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
I don't think so
Now we know that
I'm the best TBLA avatar By Phil Gurnee, thank you !!!!!!
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cmon Texas fielding
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Doesn't matter who pitches
all Giants games will be a one-run game in the 7th inning anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
His name is Buster
and his last name isn’t Keaton.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yankees and rays cant get more than 1 run off lee
but the giants can
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
KKKKliff
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I still have more faith
in the Rangers lineup against a San Fran bullpen than I do the SF lineup against a Rangers Bullpen knocks on wood
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
All I can report from Dallas is
that I’m in a horrifically boring night class, but I’ll be at the bar soon with my buddies, in my kershaw jersey, cheering with the Ranger fans
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I just had a friend text me “Go Giants” and “I’m sitting next to a Giants fan at the bar.”
My responses were “Fuck You” and “I hope he chokes on a chip and you have to give him mouth to mouth.”
This is why you are the official Arkansas correspondent for True Blue LA.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
tell him
to tell his friend at the bar to go home and get his shinebox
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
That kind of inning
makes me wonder if this is just the Giants’ year. Hopefully their year comes in 2120 as planned.
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Talk about a turnaround
Moreland looked horrible in that AB until the hit.
Alec Baldwin would approve
bobtimmermann
@jadande So the best teams get to drink coffee?
less than 20 seconds ago via Seesmic for BlackBerry in reply to jadande
jadande
Vinny Del Negro sums up the NBA in 5 words: “The best teams have closers.”
KKKKKKliff Lee
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Fewest number of strikeouts by Lincecum in a game in his career
is 2 (he’s done that a few times, the most IP with only 2 K is 7)
He has 1 through 5.
why baseball why
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
maybe the 8 day layoff got him out of rhythm…or maybe Satan is just a Giants fan
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the year that the NL finally wins the ASG
helps the Giants. Thanx Broxton
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
I'm an Angels fan
and I just wanted to say, Fuck the Giants.
by notaznguy on Oct 27, 2010 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
of course the giants give Lee his first rough outing this postseason
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
by shaqfor3 on Oct 27, 2010 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well, the Rangers lost the ALCS Game 1 in a shocker
and handled the Yanks. My only solace…I’m turning to the Kings-Blackhawks game
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Thanks for the reminder. Of the Kings game that is.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
in other news
celtics lose
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
That maybe the ticket. Stop focusing on it and it will get better.
I’m eating catfish.
baked potato and fried okra.
Hushpuppies are divine.
In other, other news
Cliff Lee suddenly sucks.
Cliff Lee has no heart
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Cliff Lee's teams were 8-0 in his 8 post-season starts
and had given up 9 earned runs (5 in one game) in 64.1 innings.
Tonight he gave up 6 earned, 7 altogether in 4.2
That just makes me want to say
Fuck the Giants all the more.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Heyman
comparisons to 1988 dodgers not fair to #SFGiants. this team has some talent. #wheresmickeyhatcher?
Haha
OT
Durant just took a hard fall… If there was ever a hypothetical disastrous injury, that would be it…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
That is great news.
Hopefully America will be attacked tomorrow. That is some more great news.
ugh
sad Thunder fan……
And oh
The Cavs have a better record than the Heat… LOL Big 3…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
I just enjoy saying it… CeLOLtics…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Durant's back in the game
You can breathe now…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
On the bright side
that attack on the US tomorrow will suspend the World Series and NFL season indefinitely (I remember you’re a Cowboy fan)
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
the fact that they touched up Cheech
makes it worse that Cliff Lee sucked. Damn, 4 runs to go.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
He’ll eat the Giants?
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
un Fucking believable
I hate this game sometimes
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Hi my name is Maddz
And if any Giants fan steps to me right now, God help them.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
by Maddz on Oct 27, 2010 7:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
FUCK THE GIANTS
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
This
And I no longer have a guy to fight. Now I have some guy who is being overly familiar. Fml
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by Maddz on Oct 27, 2010 7:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Woudl san fran stop being lame?
thanks
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If they hadn't won a championship, sure...
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That was so long ago
Even I was in HS.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Well
They’re not cursed…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cubs are considered cursed
but they won a championship too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Cubs fans consider themselves cursed
The rest of the world just consider them a team that sucks
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
So I was busy doing stuff at work and thought
gee, it will be a fun little exercise to catch up on the comments without peeking any where to see what the score of the game is. So here I am about 75 minutes later, where the “Lee is sucking” comments are like body blows and the line
But now the Giants are up 8-2.is the knockout punch.
Fuck the Giants.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
9-4, bottom of 8th
and yes, the world has not exploded yet
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
And more.
Let’s hope the Giants offense has punched itself out.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Exactly what I was thinking
Giants inventing the term “Seeing-Eye Double”
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
Is there a basketball player that Hubie Brown DOESN'T like?
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He and John Hart need
to form a club.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
To weigh in on the most important side discussion in the last several thread
I always spell the shortened form of the Oakland baseball team’s name as “A’s” because I consider it to be a contraction of Athletics. If the apostrophe in “we’ve” takes the place of two letters, I don’t see why the apostrophe in “A’s” can take the place the “thletic”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I like that point of view
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@SI_JonHeyman 5 favorite ballparks: 1. AT&T Park. 2. Dodger Stadium. 3. Safeco. 4. PNC Park. 5. Citi Field. Least favorite: The Trop.
PNC park is sweet
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So, this Blake Griffin dude is good at basketball, eh?
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
This might be a stretch
but the Rangers touched up Lincecum and now Wilson, that last inning might hopefully carry over into Game 2. (He keeps telling himself as he rocks back and forth)
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I'm not worried
The rangers have shown they can hit anyone, one bad start by Lee doesn’t have me too worried.
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There have 9 previous World Series
where the winning team scored 10 or more runs. That team has only won 5 out of those 9 World Series.
Coincidentally, the Dodgers have been on both sides of that equation, losing in 1978 and won in 1959.
Thats why vegans exist
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It's not an animal as eggs are not fertilized, usually.
You’re not eating an animal, just an animal product. Just like cow’s milk.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Eff You Cliff Lee, Eff you Very Much in the Heart
Finally craps the bed in the playoffs and it’s tonight.
Btw, I was very polite to Giants fans as I rode the tram home with some of them tonight (well before the game was OVER I should add, heading back from the ballpark) as they asked me things like “Do you think we can win in a sweep” or “who’s pitching tomorrow” or Go Giants or whatever. I guess they assume everyone’s a fan.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Picture proof of Giants fans leaving early
pic from the tram station 8 blocks up the road from the game, fans coming back from ballpark getting off to transfer to BART, in the 8th inning of a game (just before they tacked on more runs and before the Rangers gave them a scare in the 9th).
But Dodger fans are only ones who leave early.
Not the greatest pic but there were about 100 who got off or continued on the tram.
And I don’t really care, I’m sure they had reasons, it’s just that ol double standard that irks.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Take a deep breath
That anger will pass
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Oct 27, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really not that angry
Will be pissy if they win the WS but can survive. But next year may have to deal with more Giants fans being stuck-up pricks to Dodger fans than usual (of course they’re like that even when they suck).
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Sometimes I think we are just as whiney as we claim the Giants fans to be. This is not directed specifically at you…as a whole.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensive in my case more than whiny :-)
just a lifetime of hearing smack about Dodger fans leaving early (which made Jon do that post about Yankee fans the other day) has made it my life goal to provide evidence that everyone does it. It keeps me out of trouble.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Including tonight
There have been 29 Game Ones of the World Series where a team has given up 7 or more runs. Only twice has that team won the game.
I laughed so hard at softball tonight
someone called this the “Steers and Queers” World Series.
I don't always walk, but when I do, it's into Mordor.
I laughed at softball tonight, but it was because we only scored 2 runs and we were mercy’d by the 4th
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 27, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Other pitching notes
Tim Lincecum’s Game Score of 38 is the second lowest to ever win a World Series Game 1, only Bob Walk (1980 Philadelphia Phillies) and Ray Sadecki (1964 St. Louis Cardinals) had a lower Game Score which was 37. Both of those teams did go on to win the World Series.
Cliff Lee became the 13th World Series Game 1 starter to give up 6 or more earned runs in a start and the 13th to lose that game. As for any future predictions, the losing team in those other 12 Game 1 starts were 4-8 in terms of winning the series (1931 St. Louis Cardinals, 1945 Detroit Tigers and 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers in 7 games and 1996 Yankees in 6 games)
Teams that have won the first game of the Divisional Series, LCS and World Series
Are 8-1 in winning the whole thing. The only team not to win the World Series was the 2009 Phillies.
The combined game scores of Lincecum and Lee
of 66 (38 for Lincecum and 28 for Lee) is the fourth lowest for a World Series Game 1.
Only 2004 (43), 1980 (64) and 1997 (65) are lower.
The last team to win a World Series down 2-0
was the 1996 Yankees, who lost both games at home before winning 4 in a row. The last road team to go down 2-0 and win the World Series was the 1981 Dodgers. Road teams down 0-2 are 0-12 since that series.
1) get some sleep
2) you have a WS Game 1 facts FanPost here, only spread out in comments.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sandy Alderson
is bringing in DePo and JP Ricciardi to be his top lieutenants according to the NY Post.
Wow.
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