Coaching Shakeup As Mattingly Takes Over
by David Young on Oct 4, 2010 3:35 PM PDT
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PrintAlthough the Dodgers have made no official announcements, and Ned Colletti pointedly said in a quote in Ken Gurnick's mlb.com column yesterday:
"We're not going to do it [announce the coaching staff] piecemeal," said Colletti, who would not comment on individual coaches.
facts and speculation are swirling around Dodger Stadium regarding the composition of the 2011 coaching staff that will work under new manager Don Mattingly. Preliminary indications are the Bob Schaefer, Mariano Duncan and Larry Bowa will not be part of that team, at least on the field.
Both Gurnick and espnlosangeles.com's Tony Jackson reported that Bob Schaefer would not return and the quotes from him left little doubt about that:
"I told Donnie he needs to pick somebody who can be here for three or four years because he needs continuity, and that's not me," said the 66-year-old Schaefer
"I think I'm probably going to investigate some other opportunities," Schaefer said. "I have had three good years here, and these guys need some other coaches."
Mariano Duncan seemed to be told, between the lines, that he might be better off finding a job elsewhere, per this quote, also from Gurnick:
First-base coach Mariano Duncan said he spoke with general manager Ned Colletti Sunday and was told "there might be a job for me if I don't get one somewhere else," Duncan said. "I don't know where that leaves me."
Ken Rosenthal's twitter account is the only source found so far that is reporting that Larry Bowa will not return to the staff, and he also states that Duncan is gone:
Bowa, Duncan won't return as #Dodgers' coaches, but [they were] asked to stay in org. Schaefer has said he won't be back. Honeycutt future unclear.
The facts will rise to the top as the rumor dust settles, but we are going to see some different faces peering out from those under those blue caps along the Dodger dugout rail next season.
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I wonder if they got my resume?
I can definitely sit on the bench with the best of ’em!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
But seriously
I am not sorry to see Schaefer or Bowa leave, not surpriised, and don’t have the hard feelings for ‘em some may have, but I don’t see the point in keeping them around and think a lot of players might secretly be happy.
I’d be fine with Duncan sticking around but yeah not sure where he’d fit in.
I actually really like Willie Randolph, even if he wasn’t necessarily a great manager he’s a good guy, players like him, seems pretty bright…
Wouldn’t mind if Honeycutt stuck around, he’s been a good pitching coach overall but maybe it is time for a change there as well. Greg Maddux would be awesome but probably a pipe dream.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Now that Peavy's out of the league
Who needs him?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I'm advocating
current Yankees 1B Mick Kelleher to replace Mariano. Only because he’s an old family friend and I would get free tickets and whatnot.
Given that cleft in his chin
I’m not surprised he didn’t shave there.
The glasses and black shirt make him look like some sort of Hollywood auteur, or a Steve Jobs protégé. He could use the help in establishing his brainpower.
Witty .sig goes here.
TCY on the market
Padres GM Hoyer said, as expected, the team won’t pick up Chris Young’s $8.5 million option. Would be open to having him return.
WAAAAAYYY
too many SB’s allowed. i think 3 of the 5 baserunners allowed in his last start stole a base.
"Nothing like a nice herpe to ruin the party." - DJ Pauly D
saw also
they’re gonna be meeting with A-gon’s agent. I wonder if they might say, “Look, we don’t know if we’re gonna do what we did last year. His value may not be higher, so we’re gonna trade him this winter.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned still has
the deer in the headlights look I see.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
no
ned is looking at him like ‘you better not fuck this up or I’m going Kimbo Slice on your ass’
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I had it more along the lines of...
“How in the hell do you wear a hat for half your life and get hair like that. I don’t even own a hat and I got this fucked up rug on my grape. Lucky Fuck.”
:)
I dunno, looks like someone just pole-axed him
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Wow, Donnie shaved his weird facial hair. Should I???
by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 4, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You should keep your Civil War era inspired facial
accouterments. Especially your tribute to General Burnside.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Hold on
I need to call my buddy Frankie-O to see if you’re right. he’s a Civil War buff.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
by G.Scott on Oct 4, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ned 1865
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Best Civil War hair: Senator James Lane (KS)
by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 4, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
that is killer, I think mine would look like that
if I let it grow a mind of it’s own.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
had to be Kansas
that dude is dust in the wind.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
There's actually a guy at my work
with that exact hairstyle.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Donny 2011
His current hairstyle evokes a bit of this
Better for Donny not to emulate Civil War General Hooker for the other reason he’s famous.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you’re gonna get a hooker, get a good one. Settling for the General Hooker is a waste of cash.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Hooker's Division
The center of wartime prostitution in Washington, now the site of the US Supreme Court building.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 4, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He looks like a professor in today's photos
Donnie Baseball? More like Donnie Mathematics.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He looks like Donnie Bellspalsy there
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Who the hell is Jim Ross?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Moreso than usual?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Or What Happens When John Cougar Tries to Look Erudite
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The more I think about it, the more I’d love to see Loney traded for Wilson Betemit or Alex Gordon, and Adam Dunn signed to play 1B.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Don't get your hopes up
Adam Dunn is so not a “Ned guy”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’ve heard that everytime I mention Dunn, but I still don’t know what it means. Do you mean the gritastic scrappy guys who don’t strikeout?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
That and
and guys who actually like the game, so the rumor goes.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think we say that because
of the day Ned traded Betemit a man who at that point was one of the leading OPS hitters on the team but had a terrible batting average and struck out alot.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Also, I’m curious what Carlos Beltran’s pricetag would be.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Probably not much
if you take on his $18.5M salary for 2011 and buy out his no-trade clause….
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I know, a ton of posts about the same thing, but things keep popping into my head. Loney for Betemit +1, flip the +1 and another prospect for Mike Cameron to play CF and teach Kemp, sign Dunn. Puts us as Ethier, Cameron, Kemp OF with Cameron hitting 7 behind Blake/Betemit.
Feasible?
i should have thought of this for my post in Humma’s moustache thread.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
That was my theory. At least give him an idea about placement, jumps, w/e.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
While I like the Idea
I don’t think that giving Mike Cameron between $7-8M per year is gonna happen. But I have no ideas so your idea is better than mine.
I was offering BOS 2 prospects with the intention of splitting his salary. I imagine they’ll be looking to move him instead of keeping him as a 4th OF.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
You will get your chance soon
related to a post I’ll be putting up about what you’d do to build your 100,000,000 2011 team. It ain’t easy. I’ve been through a few iterations and none of the teams look any better then the one who ended the season. Going to be very hard to find a rotation with that budget when 17 Million of it is for players no longer on the roster.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
but why would KC want Loney when they already have Butler
and a great prospect in Hosmer? I’ve been thinking about Gordon too though, don’t know his value in their eyes…Rays might need a 1B and I have heard that they might trade Garza, they’ll have a lot of spots being filled from within this winter.
It’d be a buy-low move on their part and would probably require them trying to flip him. It’d only work if they thought they could get more for Loney than they could get for whatever we’re trading them.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
come to think of it
why would anybody want Loney at the 2011 price tag unless they have power in other spots and maybe a shortstop with an erratic arm? I don’t see too many teams that fit that description…(praying for a Pujols trade among other miracles)
Stone
Has anyone been to the Stone Brewery tour? I am dying to go.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 4, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
Don Mattingly was asked Phil's "one thing" question from the last comment thread, sort of
a reporter asked Mattingly what was the one thing he would wish for if he could sprinkle pixie dust on his team.
“If we could be one thing, it would be mentally tough,” Mattingly said. “If I could throw one thing out there, I want this team to have mental toughness.”
And then came the obvious follow-up question: Were this year’s Dodgers, who finished two games south of the .500 mark, lacking in that area?
“It was a lot of areas, really,” Mattingly said. “It takes toughness to play this game. It’s not football toughess, where you’re banging heads, but you have to get ready to play 162 times, and that is a battle. It is a mental battle to try to get yourself ready every day.”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you want to try and read the tea leaves
there is also this from the Tony Jackson article linked in my last comment:
Even before meeting with the media, Colletti and Mattingly could be clearly seen through floor-to-ceiling, frosted windows as they sat in a board room with assistant GM Kim Ng and special assistants Lee Elia, Vance Lovelace and Rick Ragazzo.Any name notable for its absence? In all fairness, evaluating the major league roster doesn’t exactly fall under his title.
…
Mattingly said the group already was going over the roster, player by player, to determine where each guy fits in for next year.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Watson and White
both live in Arizona plus all the guys in the Instructional League are there and the AFL starts next week.
If you didn't catch this
and until TBLA has a podcast, here is one done over the weekend with Tony Jackson, Mark Saxon, Andy Kamenetzky and Jon Weisman.
OT: but I will never read "mechanically separated chicken" from an ingredient
list the same way again. What a photo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/mechanically-separated-meat-chicken-mcnugget-photo_n_749893.html
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah
read about that several weeks ago. The ammonia levels are disturbingly high. Luckily I’ve never been attracted to anything other then pieces of chicken.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Meaning
legs/thighs/wings/breasts. Then again for all I know they soak those whole chickens into something that I’d probably gag at.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Make your gig at Pioneer
dropping those birds into the deep fryer loaded with lard seem downright healthy!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ha, other then the daily burns to my skin
nothing like eating the first group out of the fresh fryer. Golden brown, golden flavor.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I mean, I knew that "mechanically separated chicken"
meant that the remains of the bird, once the good parts were butchered away, we’re passed through a machine to get more meat from it, but I imagined it yielded tiny bits of raw meat, not a bright pink paste that looks like something passed through a giant Play-Doh factory.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You look at that picture
and you imagine that’s how Soylent Green gets made.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
People used to eat meat a few times a week. Now we eat meat in practically every meal, every day. That rising demand has lead to some production practices that are… iffy.
We don't eat this much meat!
The Inuit have traditionally been hunters and fishers. They still hunt whales, walrus, caribou, seal, polar bears, muskoxen, birds, and at times other less commonly eaten animals such as the Arctic Fox. The typical Inuit diet is high in protein and very high in fat – in their traditional diets, Inuit consumed an average of 75% of their daily energy intake from fat.25 While it is not possible to cultivate plants for food in the Arctic, the Inuit have traditionally gathered those that are naturally available. Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, and seaweed (kuanniq or edible seaweed) were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location.2627282930 There are a vast aray of different hunting technologies that the Inuit used to gather their food.
In the 1920s anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived with and studied a group of Inuit.31 The study focused on the fact that the Inuit’s extremely low-carbohydrate diet had no adverse effects on their health, nor indeed, Stefansson’s own health. Stefansson (1946) also observed that the Inuit were able to get the necessary vitamins they needed from their traditional winter diet, which did not contain any plant matter. In particular, he found that adequate vitamin C could be obtained from items in their traditional diet of raw meat such as Ringed Seal liver and whale skin (muktuk). While there was considerable scepticism when he reported these findings, they have been borne out in recent studies.32
I gotta have my protein
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I fear the Earth will be knocked off it’s orbit by the force of Upton Sinclair spinning in his grave.
Wait till next year.
Loved that book
the imagery on a 12 year olds mind has never left. Not sure if any other book other then Johnny Got his gun had more of an imprint on my young mind.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
that is the grossest fucking shit I’ve ever seen in my entire life. That’s like in those sci-fi movies where everyone in the future and everyone’s eating pastes and pills. This is my nightmare future, and I’m not okay with it.
Really? That picture just makes me want to eat some chicken mcnuggets…
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
I shudder to think
how pet food is made.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
it’s pink! and soaked in ammonia and then artificially flavored. I could mix your toothpaste with chicken broth and achieve the same affect
If a rodent fell into that machine
would anyone ever be able to tell?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Would real meat off a rodent
be better then shaved bone pieces? Tis a shame we have such a rodent phobia, I’d expect we could grow them quite easily to feed the masses. Better then babies said Gulliver as he traveled the world.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think the problem with rodents is that it is hard to keep them disease free?
Maybe they taste awful too, although they already know how to work around that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I doubt its that hard
I just imagine they don’t yield all the much meat, and there isn’t much of a market for them.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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no shit!
I wonder how?
I mean, when I’m laying around on a Saturday and too lazy to go to the store!
when that occasion happens
just drink the Lavoris; the alcohol content is high enough.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
But
it tastes good.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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it’s engineered to taste good and be addictive to boost profit on a multinational scale, like many other cheaply-produced food products…my inclination is NOT to trust McDonald’s or the USDA since it seems to be a compromised agency owned by such corporate influence and money.
The comments in the photo led me the to the website meat.org. After watching that video, I think I am making my way towards a vegetarian lifestyle, or at least a lifestyle that only splurges on meat from reputable farms.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 5, 2010 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean with that virtual reality headset thing?
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Some scenes filmed at my office site at the time
Futuristic shopping center with The Sharper Image (oops!) and Taco Bell. Passed by Stallone, he is short like me, but was powerful looking then.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Until you can take advantage of Andre
wield advantage over what you can.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Blech
My mind goes to goo, which goes to the toilet, which goes to…
Shit
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
I had a friend who swears both that he's 1) allergic to chicken
and 2) he was able to eat a mcnugget and not have an allergic reaction of any kind. Don’t know if this was real, or why he risked it, but he was adamant it was true. At any rate, I believed it. As gross as that is, not sure how anyone could be too surprised that mcnuggets are unhealthy or that there’s hardly any real, good meat in them.
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I just assumed they where unhealthy
because they where fried.
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UPDATE, 10/4/10: The story has been amended to reflect that although mass produced chicken nuggets at large may contain mechanically separated chicken, McDonald’s famous McNuggets no longer do contain "mechanically separated poultry as defined by the federal government. The USDA now requires foods with mechanically separated poultry to be labeled as containing “mechanically separated chicken or turkey” in their ingredients lists.
Additionally, although “mechanically separated meat” may apply to turkey, chicken and pork, due to concerns over BSE, the federal government has held since 2004 that mechanically separated beef “is considered inedible and is prohibited for use as human food.”
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For Dave Young
Arizona Diamondbacks strikeouts by batting order
1. 140
2. 131
3. 180
4. 207
5. 186
6. 192
7. 141
8. 153
9. 199
As you guys mentioned yesterday
Arizona 1-8 spots, on average: 166 strikeouts
Matt Kemp: 170 strikeouts
And we’re appaled at that (rightfully so)…imagine a whole lineup of that. What did our #9 slot do this year?
180 K
which was the team high in terms of by batting order. No other position (batting order) had more than 140. The Diamondbacks struck out 345 times more than the Dodgers.
And...
They scored 46 more runs than the Dodgers over the course of the season, Ranking 8th in the NL (LA ranked 11th).
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 4, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Then there's the Astros
who somehow managed to place last in all three true outcomes in 2010. They’re a Ned Kind of Team.™
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 4, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to like Joe Posnanski. But the title of his latest post is “Those Lovable Giants”. Fuck Joe Posnanski. He’s Plaschke to me. (For a few days at least.)
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/10/03/these-lovable-giants/#more-5800
second half
smashed
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching the end of the first part of The Tenth Inning
I love the memories of the 98 homerun race…even if it was tainted. That shit was great.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Patriots became the first team in NFL history to score a touchdown rushing, passing, on an interception return, a kickoff return and a return of a blocked field goal in the same game
I love when I look up a game
see the obscene score, and then can’t piece it together using the box score. I just assumed it was all on Henne’s three picks.
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I mean thats bad
thats every facet of the game. There is literally nothing for them to hang their hats on after that shittastic performance.
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His brother will surprise you, too.
Wang.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Donnie Baseball
looks like Jeff Goldblum calmly explaining some key pseudoscientific plot point in a B movie.
$128 million doesn't buy what it used to
Barry Zito might (stress: might) be left off the Giants’ NLDS roster (in favor of Madison Bumgarner)
Colletti said the two most promising Minor Leaguers are the two Branch Rickey Award winners for best pitcher and player in the system — hard-throwing right-hander Rubby De La Rosa and slugging corner infielder Jerry Sands. Both started last year at Class A and finished at Double-A. Sands could be groomed to replace third baseman Casey Blake, who at 37 might transition to utility.
da fuckkkk
sands has played 1 game at third in his career.. and now hes the replacement for casey blake… LOL
Oh lord, on the 10th inning Joe Miller is talking about VORP and OPS, which is actually calls OPS, not O.P.S.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
yeah
lol… i always hear him call its OPS… its pretty funny…
It’s standard ops for Jon Miller :)
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