You are the GM - 100 Million Dollar Dodger Edition
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 8, 2010 11:12 AM PDT
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PrintThe season is over, Frank McCourt fired Ned, and made you the General Manager. Gave you a budget of 100,000,000 to build a team for 2011. That budget includes prior commitments of around 17,000,000 so you have around 83,000,000 to build your 2011 team. Using Eric Stephen's payroll widget as your guide, build your team.
Here is the list of available free agents
Pickings are slim this free agent year. Not much help can be found for position players. As I was creating this team I kept fighting with removing the core or keeping the core. If I keep the core I can't afford any external help. If I move the core I'm basically rebuilding while hoping to be competitive. This is not a good year for free agents, or trading for players other teams can't afford since we can't afford them either. I don't envy Ned. Do you gamble on your core, or do you gamble by trading the most valued core players?
I've been through a few iterations and have yet to find a team I'm satisfied with. In fact this whole post has been delayed because I've yet to come up with a team I'm happy with.
But since I'm the GM this is what I'd do.
1. Move Kuo back to the rotation and let him stay there until his arm falls off. We need starting pitching, we know he can start, I refuse to believe that doing bullpen work is better for his arm then starting every five days.
2. Move Broxton back to the closer role, he is to expensive to trade, so we really don't have much choice other then cross our fingers and hope like hell he can rebound.
3. Sign Kuroda to a one year deal of 10 Million
4. Trade Dee Gordon/Xavier Paul for Alex Gordon and make Alex Gordon the everyday 3rd baseman
5. Trade Casey Blake to the Braves for Nate McLouth. Basic swap of salaries, Nate has one year left at 6.5 Million and then a buyout in 2012 of only 1.25 Million. He was terrible in 2010, was a very good player for two years, I'm going to gamble on him.
6. Trade James Loney/Chris Withrow for Wandy Rodriguez
7.Sign Casey Kotchman to replace Loney, same production, same defense, probably 2 Million will get it done.
8. Non Tender Theriot
9. Sign Akinori Iwamura to one year deal of 1.25 Million
10. Sign Eric Hinske to 1 Million
9. Offer Lilly arbitration, expect him to decline
I won't kid you, this is still not a good offensive team, but I do like the rotation. It is very dependent on Gordon/Kotchman/McLouth bouncing back, Kemp having a big rebound year, and Andre doing more of pre pinky damage. Still I think this rotation will keep us in every game. Iwamura is a the rare left handed hitting 2nd baseman, who can also play 3rd base. I expect his price will be cheap given his production in 2010.
So in the end I kept the core other then Loney. I wanted Wandy, and Loney would seem to be a decent chip for the Astros for him. Remember as much as some don't like Loney, those runs batted in have plenty of value in the trade market.
Kotchman can pick it, and is basically Loney without the runs batted in or larger contract. I do like the idea of Boom Boom Betemit for 1st base, but I think the Royals will offer him arbitration and make him a DH or 1st baseman when they promote Moustakas to play 3rd base next year. Meaning I don't think he is available.
I have to count on Elbert to help in the bullpen and be a big presence as the left hand set up man. Leach will need to make the team as the other left handed pitcher. Gaudin is here to be a swing man as he can spot start on occasion.
I know it ain't great, but it is the best I could do. I may be kidding myself with the Loney trade, but that is a starting 1st baseman, and a top prospect pitcher for a guy the Astro's have had trouble with. I'd rather have Wandy at 7 Million then sign Lilly to something like 20/2.
If Broxton does not bounce back then this team might be screwed, we can easily transition Jansen into the closer role but we won't have the arms to get to him.
In the end I'm not happy with this team, hope someone can do better, but try to be realistic and not trade our prospects as though they are worth diamonds. They are flawed and you will only get flawed players in return. I'm not really sold on Alex Gordon but he certainly is worth Dee Gordon. The Royals are loaded with pitching and corner guys but not a SS so I'm hoping they'd go for it.
| Pos | Player | 2011 | |
| C | Martin | $4,000,000 | |
| C | AJ Ellis | $405,000 | |
| 1B | Kotchman | $2,000,000 | |
| 1B/3B | Mitchell | 405,000 | |
| 2B | Carroll | $2,500,000 | |
| Utility | Iwamura | $1,200,000 | |
| SS | Furcal | $12,000,000 | |
| 3rd | Alex Gordon | $2,000,000 | |
| CF | Kemp | $7,100,000 | |
| LF | Ethier | $9,250,000 | |
| RF | McLouth | 6,500,000 | |
| OF/1st | Hinske | 1,000,000 | |
| OF | Johnson | 1,000,000 | |
| SP | Kershaw | $500,000 | |
| SP | Billingsley | $5,500,000 | |
| SP | Kuroda | 8,000,000 | Defer 2 Million to 2012 |
| SP | Kuo | $2,500,000 | |
| SP | Wandy Rodrigeuz | 7,000,000 | |
| RHP | Broxton | $7,000,000 | |
| RHP | Jansen | $405,000 | |
| RHP | Belisario | $420,000 | |
| RHP | Troncoso | $425,000 | |
| LHP | Elbert | 405,000 | |
| LHP | Leach | 405,000 | |
| RHP | Gaudin | 1,000,000 | |
| Deferred: | |||
| Paddila | 1,000,000 | ||
| Manny | $7,677,596 | ||
| Dotel | $125,000 | ||
| Pierre | $3,500,000 | ||
| Andruw | $3,375,000 | ||
| Schmidt | $1,500,000 | ||
| Wolf | |||
| 17,177,596 | |||
| Totals | $100,097,596 |
I'd hope with this team to get some help mid season from Sands, Trayvon Robinson, Rubby De La Rosa, Lindblom, Link, and Schlichting. However only De La Rosa could help in the rotation.
You can cut and paste this spreadsheet into excel by using paste special/html if you want to use it as the basis.
Good Luck.
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Man, it just looks weird to see the kind of money Broxton is making right now compared to Kershaw. I know in the long run Kershaw will make more…but yikes.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 11:18 AM PDT reply actions
How many baseball fields and concession stands can that buy me?
’Cause that is what I would do.
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First thought — and there will be more — is that when (not if) Furcal gets injured, then Carroll moves over and Iwamura plays 2B, I assume?
Now with 33% more Kavula
I left Hu and DeJesus in the organization.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Carroll 2B
McLouth RF
Ethier LF
Kemp CF
Kotchman 1B
Gordon 3B
Martin C
Hu SS
…something like that, when Furcal goes down?
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much againt RHP
against LHP Gordon or Kotchman would have to sit for Mitchell. Furcal really helps against LHP because he historically torches them.
If Iwamura bounces back then I’d no problem with him playing 2nd base and Carroll playing SS. I’d want Iwamura playing at least 30% of the time anyway to keep Carroll fresh.
I’m not as down on DeJesus as everyone else is.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Man, Furcal is really kind of a linchpin to next season. If he goes down early and/or is out a lot, that is big trouble. If he stays healthy, that will help a lot.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good, only issue I have is that the Astros probably don’t want Loney since they’re getting Berkman back.
Is that for sure?
Guys who leave teams say that all the time but rarely follow through. After tasting the playoffs why would he go back to a team he can’t possibly taste the playoffs with for the few short years he has left as a position player?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I remember part of the deal being the Yankees couldn’t pick up his option so he could come back, but I might have dreamed that.
Also the Astros did trade for Brett Wallace, so they’d probably give him the next shot.
by regfairfield on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't Wallace due to get traded again?
I also traded Loney to Texas for Mitch Moreland. Maybe I should have stuck with that one. I ran out of time and I wanted to get this post up.
Gary Scott has put together a team that might be better but I don’t think you can get Betemit for 1 Million, after the 1/2 season he had.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The team I put together, it's long but worth the read I think
There’s just no good way to Copy/Paste this, since I did it in Excel:
Position Name 2011 Salary
C Barajas $1,000,000
1B Troy Glaus $4,000,000
2B Orlando Hudson $5,000,000
SS Furcal $12,500,000
3B Blake $5,250,000
LF Jonny Gomes $1,250,000
CF Kemp $7,100,000
RF Ethier $9,250,000
1B/3B Wilson Betemit $1,000,000
2B/SS Carroll $2,500,000
LF/CF/RF Corey Patterson $2,000,000
C Ellis $405,000
Bench/1B Gibbons $500,000
SP Kershaw $500,000
SP Billingsley $5,500,000
SP Lilly $8,000,000
SP Padilla $4,000,000
SP Justin Duchscherer $2,000,000
CL Broxton $7,000,000
RP Kuo $2,500,000
RP Jansen $405,000
LP Sherrill $500,000
RP Belisario $420,000
RP Guillermo Mota $750,000
RP Ely $405,000
Subtotal $83,735,000
Deferred $16,052,596
Total $99,787,596
Remaining $212,404
Glaus starts at 1B against Lefties (2010 OPS .762 vs LHP)
Hudson 2010 OPS of .710
Blake starts at 3B against LHP (2010 OPS of .895 vs LHP)
Gomes starts in LF against LHP (2010 OPS of .856 vs LHP)
Betemit starts at 3B against RHP (2010 OPS of .873 vs RHP)
Patterson starts in CF against RHP (Kemp to RF, Ethier to LF. 2010 OPS of .794 vs RHP)
Gibbons starts at 1B against RHP
Duchscherer I’m hoping for 20 good starts out of
Sherrill is strictly a LOOGY
Mota, yeah.
Lineups look like:
vs RHP:
Player + 2010 OPS vs RHP
Furcal .847
Hudson .711
Ethier .960
Betemit .873
Kemp .743
Patterson .794
Gibbons .783 (career)
Barajas .792 (huh?)
vs LHP:
Player + 2010 OPS vs LHP
Furcal .774
Hudson .707
Kemp .809
Glaus .762 (.938 career)
Gomes .856
Blake .895
Ethier .625 (bruised ego/media frenzy alert)
Barajas .552 (what?)
Average OPS 0.812 vs RHP 0.7475 vs LHP
The vs RHP lineup isn’t pretty, but a top to bottom 0.812OPS is hard to argue with.
The LHP lineup is more tricky. The .748OPS could go higher if you rest Ethier against lefties, but that would almost require carrying 11 pitchers which I don’t like doing. Also, Ellis’ career OPS against lefties is .620 but it’s only against 28 PA. Options to replace Guillermo Mota with a RH RF to platoon with Ethier include: Jermaine Dye (2009 OPS vs RHP of .894), Magglio Ordonez (1.171! though I doubt he signs for the budgeted 950k), or Russ Mitchell. The more obvious choice in my head is to trade Ethier and sign platoon partners of Ordonez and Jim Edmonds for what Ethier makes, and use the rest of the savings to upgrade Gibbons. It’s a little extreme, but replacing Ethier vs LHP with Magglio’s 1.171 moves the average OPS from .7475 to .81575
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
C Barajas, $1,000,000 1B Troy, Glaus $4,000,000 2B Orlando, Hudson $5,000,000 SS Furcal, $12,500,000 3B Blake, $5,250,000 LF Jonny, Gomes $1,250,000 CF Kemp, $7,100,000 RF Ethier, $9,250,000 1B/3B Wilson, Betemit $1,000,000 2B/SS Carroll, $2,500,000 LF/CF/RF Corey, Patterson $2,000,000 C Ellis, $405,000 Bench/1B Gibbons, $500,000 SP Kershaw, $500,000 SP Billingsley, $5,500,000 SP Lilly, $8,000,000 SP Padilla, $4,000,000 SP Justin, Duchscherer $2,000,000 CL Broxton, $7,000,000 RP Kuo, $2,500,000 RP Jansen, $405,000 LP Sherrill, $500,000 RP Belisario, $420,000 RP Guillermo, Mota $750,000 RP Ely, $405,000
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Just don't think you can get Boom Boom for one million
Duchscherer hip has been chronic
Can Glaus still hit? He disappeared after May. Might be worth the gamble. Did you simply non tender Loney and Martin?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
non-tender Martin, traded Loney for what I could. Hell, I’d auction him off for cash to the highest bidder if I could. You need to look at my free agent signings as categorical signings, not necessarily THE signing. I would sign a righty bat with pop to complement a lefty hitter. Problem is, you face more RHP than LHP, so in my scenario, we’d be starting Betemit and Gibbons more than Glaus and Blake. I originally liked the idea of teahen but I don’t like paying him 4.75mil to platoon. I’d rather have the upside of Glaus. Duchscherer is a “buy low” candidate. I don’t necessarily think he’s THE choice, but he’s the one I liked best.
Betemit has never signed for over $2mil. Even if that is his new ceiling, it won’t be a budget breaker. I chose Lilly over Kuroda for the durability.
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
Does this mean “It’ll take a miracle for this to work”?
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
well
maybe they could flip him to someone else
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I went with a Loney team
but that would mean a huge question mark as the fifth starter. Sure would have been easier if James McDonald was still on the team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Just looking at this
is exhausting, nice work Phil on actually putting a team together under those constraints. It clearly isn’t an easy job.
no kidding
I already gave up
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
because
I can’t figure out how to get kuroda crawford beltre and padilla on the team under 100m
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
Why Beltre?
he had a great year this season, but you’ll need to wait until 2016 for his next good year!
because I am still in love with him. as a player.
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
Beltre...
has there ever been a stranger career than Beltre’s in MLB history?
So much early promise, followed by years of mediocrity, followed by an MVP level season, followed by years of mediocrity, followed by a great season. Such an enigma!
Really feel like the team will pay $7,000,000.00 for a closer when the team is not built to contend?
Broxton is under contract
Who would trade for him right now?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Who would trade for him
and give us any real value back is the problem to me.
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That’s the question isn’t it?
If he’s injured, no one.
If he’s healthy, maybe a change of scenery would help him.
If he’s not tradeable and he is not able to do the job here, then he’s a ‘sunk cost’?
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if you heard
but on the last DodgerTalk Suchon was saying he was walking around for quite a while now with his right ankle/foot taped up. I am not saying this means anything, but it is now possible that he was just hurt, and there is nothing that says he can not come back strong in 2011.
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
If that is true then why was he even pitching
if he could easily hurt him arm by changing his mechanics if he had ankle/foot problems more then normal?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i am just telling you what he said. I find him to be credible.
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
wasn’t the original issue with his toe?
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yet another reason
his weight might be working against him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You are giving up on him then?
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My hope is that Broxton is healthy.
If he is and performs well in the first half, I would trade him.
A team that is contending needs a premiere closer.
The Dodgers will not fit this crteria next season, and probably not for another season or two.
Closers have a self life and Broxton’s will likely be used up by the time the Dodgers have a real need for his services again.
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be against trading him at the deadline next year
he is too expensive now.
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Do they have a choice?
He is under contract, you can’t just release him. You can but you’d still owe them money. I played with the idea of trading him to Tampa for Reid Brignac if Tampa loses Soriano to free agency. But why pay Broxton 7M when they might have a better option in Beniot as the right handed guy, and McGee as the Left handed guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Why would Tampa do that
they need outfielders with Crawford leaving, and they have lots of young guns who make nothing to work in the bullpen. Beniot was one of the best relief pitchers in baseball this year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This is what happens when you extend players
you take a risk, had Broxton pitched well in the second half, he probably would have made more than $7M if he went to arbitration. So he took the security and the Dodgers hoped they would save money this year.
Balfour, Benoit, and Choate all have the ability to become to FAs or get paid in ARB. Where are these good arms? The Starters in the Minors?
Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980
Dodgers trade 3B Casey Blake ($6M) and 1B James Loney (~$5M) to Chi Cubs for 3B Aramis Ramirez ($14.6M) – net +$3.6M
Dodgers sign P Hiroki Kuroda to 2 yr/$16M – net +$8M
Dodgers sign 1B Lance Berkman to 1 yr/$7M – net +7M
Dodgers sign P Vicente Padilla to 2yr/$8M – net +$4M
Dodgers sign P Aaron Harang to 1 yr/$2M – net +2M
Dodgers sign C Rod Barajas to 1yr/$1M – net +$1M
Dodgers sign OF Jay Gibbons to 1 yr/$850K – net +$850K
Dodgers sign OF Reed Johnson to 1yr/$900K – net +900K
Dodgers non-tender C Russell Martin – net -$5M
Dodgers non-tender P George Sherrill – net -$4.5M
Dodgers non-tender 2B Ryan Theriot – net -$4M
Net Increase in payroll = $14.85M
Lineup:
SS Furcal
LF Paul/Johnson
RF Ethier
3B Ramirez
1B Berkman
CF Kemp
2B Hu
C Ellis
Bench:
OF/1B Gibbons
OF Johnson
SS/2B Carrol
3B/1B Mitchell
C Barajas
Rotation:
LHP Kershaw
RHP Billingsley
RHP Kuroda
RHP Padilla
RHP Harang
Bullpen:
Cl Broxton
Cl Kuo
Cl Janson
MR Bellisario
MR Schlicting
MR Elbert
LR Troncoso
Here is what I like about this roster, it gives us a good shot at the division without being too expensive. Given the current state of the team a lot would have to go right for us to be competitive next season, this roster echoes that somewhat. There are some definite gambles on the roster, if Ramirez, Berkman and Harang can turn things around next season then I think our chances are pretty good. That said, we also need to get some progression from Kemp and a bounce back from Broxton. At this point, it is probably just best to hang on to Broxton and hope that after an offseason of rest that he comes back strong and has a great first half. If he does, I would look to deal him at the deadline.
I will freely admit that this may not be a good team. Counting on Hu at 2B (I would be open to an alternative not named Theriot), Paul in LF and basically punting the C position is very risky. Basically, my strategy is that this team is likely not going to be very good next season so they have to take some calculated risks, namely turning to former All-Stars to recapture some of that glory. If it doesn’t work, then we can trade some pieces (Broxton, Ethier, Padilla) and call up some prospects (Sands, Robinson).
I know Berkman will not sign that contract. You would have to adjust. But I like where you are going with Ramirez.
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
I was struggling to value Berkman. He had a down season and is getting older, I find it hard to believe that he will get more that $10M.
you might be able to hybrid that
with Phil’s suggestion of Iwamura at 2B
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
True, it is hard to get a handle on what guys like Berkman are going to get
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dodgers trade 3B Casey Blake ($6M) and 1B James Loney (~$5M) to Chi Cubs for 3B Aramis Ramirez ($14.6M) – net +$3.6M
Whny would they do that? Ramirez had an OPS of at least 800+ after the first two months.
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saves them money
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Not much
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like 3 mil?
I bet there is a much better deal out there for Aramis.
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The Cubs have a bunch of bloated contracts. This saves them some money while giving them “starters” at 1B and 3B.
3.6 million isn't that much
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Some people here thought that same amount was going to save the 2011 payroll when the Aug 31 deadline came around.
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I think the cubs have a bigger operating budget then we do
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Some good idea's other then 2nd base, but you will need to increase salary
Harang will not make less then Padilla
Berkman will not take a one year deal
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I can get behind the trade for Aramis -- maybe --
but really, we are screwed. I don’t think that’s a competitive team. And if it isn’t, and it’s my team, I can’t justify having Ethier on it.
I just might have to read up on some top prospects to try to put together the ultimate Blow Up the Dodgers lineup. It will be a terrible team but man the farm will be good.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Frank won't let you blow up the team, he expects a competitive team
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So I can't trade All-Star Andre Ethier for Jesus Montero?
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the idea of targeting Alex Gordon. If I did mine over I would put Phil’s trade in there and keep Gordon in LF under my scenario.
In fact, I really like the X. Paul and D. Gordon for A. Gordon deal the more I think about. Their Gordon is a former top prospect they are losing patience with. Our Gordon is highly thought of in the scouting community and could fill a position of need for a team that needs middle infield help. It is the kind of deal that really makes sense.
Whether by accident or design the Dodgers actually have a pretty good infield defense now. Blake’s been a plus defender as a Dodger, and combined with Theriot and Furcal you’ve got a great infield defense. So let’s build around that. Payroll increases and decreases are based on Erics sidebar
Sign Jake Westbrook to 1 yr, 5 million. (+4.48) 4th most groundballs in baseball, very bad otherwise. So he’s probably affordable
Re-sign Hiroki Kuroda 1yr, 13 million (5 million defered in 2012 and 2013 (+7.48) Wouldn’t think this is reasonable, but Kuroda said he wanted a one year deal. Fits in well with the ground ball plan.
Trade James Loney for Tom Gorzanelley (- ~2). Cubs have zero first basemen, and while Gorzo doesn’t fit in with the groundball plan, we just need arms. Gorzelanny gets strikeouts at least and he’s kinda cheap, and the Cubs don’t seem to like him very much.
Sign Edwin Encarnacion for 1 yr, 1.5 million. (+1.5) The Jays already DFAed him once and no one wanted him, so I can’t imagine when he gets non tendered there will be much competition. His defense sucks (hopefully gets better at first), he can’t get on base. But dingers.
Trade Hong-Chih Kuo for Angel Pagan (about even) Admittedly this is a stretch, the Mets probably can’t spare Pagan, but they love them some reliever and it doesn’t get much better than Kuo. Pagan has good bat and plays great defense which lets us get Kemp out of center and Dre out of right.
Convert Ramon Troncoso to starter. Probably won’t work, but he’s going nowhere in the pen and he fits in the ground ball plan, and would slot in as the 6th or 7th starter.
Sign Matt Stairs for 1 yr, 1.25 million (+.8) Dingers.
NRI Jeff Weaver, Ron Mahay, a bunch of people you forgot existed
Gives you:
SS Furcal
CF Pagan
LF Dre
RF Kemp
1B Encarnacion
3B Blake
C Martin
2B Theriot
SP Kershaw
SP Bills
SP Kuroda
SP Westbrook
SP Gorzelanny
IF Carroll
IF Hu (out of options so why not)
DH Stairs
OF Paul (see above)
C Ellis
CL Broxton
RP Jansen
RP Bellisario
RP Link
RP Elbert
RP Mahay
RP Weaver
Yeah. We’re screwed.
This is tough
I am not necessarily a fan of the $100m cap, since I think they will probably pass that in 2011, but…
Given those constraints, here is my plan:
1) Trade Ethier ($9.25m) and Broxton ($7m) to Milwaukee for Prince Fielder ($10.5m) and Gregg Zaun ($2.25m)
2) Trade James Loney ($4.5m) to Chicago Cubs for Tom Gorzelanny (~$2.5m; “super 3” arb)
3) Sign Kuroda (2/$19m; $6.5m in 2011)
4) Sign Lilly (3/$29m; $6.5m in 2011)
5) Sign Carl Crawford (6/$84m; $10m in first year)
6) Non-tender Theriot
7) Try to trade Martin; otherwise non-tender him
8) Sign Ty Wigginton (2/$7; $3m in 2011)
C Zaun $2.25m (platoon with Barajas)
1B Fielder $10.5m
2B Carroll $2.5m
3B Blake $5.25m
SS Furcal $12m
LF Crawford $10m
CF Kemp $7.1m
RF Paul/Trayvon $415k (platoon)
3B/2B Wigginton $3m
C Barajas $1m
OF Trayvon/Paul $415k
1B/OF Gibbons $850k
IF Hu $415k
SP Kershaw $500k
SP Bills $5.5m
SP Lilly $6.5m
SP Kuroda $10m
SP Gorzelanny $2.5m
CL Kuo $2.5m
CL2 Jansen $415k
RP 3-7: Belisario & the ~$420k gang x5 = $2.1m total
Dead money: $17,427,596
Total: $99.687m
I should note
Maneuver the OF as you see fit there. I"m not sure of the positioning.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
Kuroda is at $6.5m for 2011 there (not $10m)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
the most interesting yet
just curious, If Sands can play RF, why not him instead of Trayvon? then it would be a real lefty/righty platoon right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ah
another question, extend Prince, or no? (my guess no)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
that was the rest of my guess
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
He won’t extend anyway. He’ll test the FA market.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus we could trade him ourselves
in July and probably get back better then what we traded for him in the 1st place. Assuming we don’t pull a Billy Beane and trade a Cargo to get him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If we could trade
Loney for Garz like you and reg think is possible I would have to think that would be a big win.
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Fielder will finally be able to get into the clubhouse!
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by Dr. Geek on Oct 8, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So much deferred
how much are you deferring out of 2011 into the future? Will that push us to 25 Million deferred in 2012? I like the team, easily the best yet but don’t believe Crawford will take less then 100 Million this winter. He doesn’t have a lot of comp this winter so I think he goes bigger then he should.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Almost nobody gets paid more in the first year of a contract than future years.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't understand the answer
how much are you deferring into 2012 for contracts signed as FA in 2011?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kuroda: 6.5/10, plus 2.5 as a bonus in 2013
Lilly: 6.5/10.5/12
Crawford: 10/13/14/15/16/16
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like all of our plans involve
resiging Kuroda
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i approve
i love watching him pitch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He just seems like a great candidate to come back
Doesn’t seem to want to move and only seems to want a one year deal.
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My first draft
had Theriot and Martin staying (trying to stay realistic) but I needed money to keep Lilly, too (I chose Kuroda over him).
The original trade with the Brewers netted Carlos Villaneuva as the other piece instead of Zaun.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We’d be at about ~$93m in 2012 with a full starting pitching staff, but needing to fill 1B, 2B, and maybe C
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
but by 2012
Sands could be ready for 1B
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My plan to Kuroda
involves a $2.5m bonus to be paid in 2013.
2013 dead money:
Manny: ~$4m
Andruw: $3.375m
Kuroda: $2.5m (under my plan)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If we started Trayvon, what do you think the chances are he would be in center and Kemp in right?
by CarolinaDodger on Oct 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Man the Brewers are gonna have a bad outfield defense.
by regfairfield on Oct 8, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
with that pitching staff
they just watch them go out anyway.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
where would they play Ethier?
in RF with Hart in CF I’m guessing…
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
If this was possibly I would so so so love to do it
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Man, Alex Gordon.
I like the idea of taking a chance on him, but he might be a black hole. I looked to see if he hit any better in September — was that 671 OPS just a bad few weeks when he first came back up, and close the season strong? Answer: No.
Now with 33% more Kavula
some other hot prospect I think
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Mike Moustakas
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
din’t he get hurt and require surgery on his throwing shoulder?
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Moustakas? No.
He played in the Pan Am games this week.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I am wondering about Blake at First
and Gordon/Beltre at 3rd.
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
You don't pay Beltre 15 Million and then platoon him
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
gordon or beltre
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
Oh, only about 12 Million difference between the two
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
there’s a reason for that …
Desire of Gordon illustrates just how desperate these time are.
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
opulence I has it
I look at production, not $$
"With this spray tan, this chain & this shirt fitted, how could she not love me?" - Vinny
Or bite the bullet and sign Pena
Trade Loney for something of worth and keep Casey at third against RHP, platoon him at first against LHP and use a warm body at third.
Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980
Pena
Loney’s opposite
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
1 year 7 Million
he will need to reprove himself.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
what is his problem anyway?
I don’t really watch the Rays, does he strike out a lot? swing and miss way outside the zone?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He was basically the 2007 Boom Boom Betemit
in 2010 and Ned liked that so much he traded him away for Proctor. But this is our team so if you want Pena you can have him.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=934&position=1B
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Change name of team to Los Angeles Expos/Nationals?
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t want Pena
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Martin non tendered
before the break:
Ethier, Furcal, Blake, and Broxton traded for prospects and fill-ins.
This is what I expect from McCourt next season.
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Depending on what those four guys bring back, that might be the best-case scenario.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He has always struck out a lot. He had an awful BABIP this season (.222). 2 years ago he struck out more but had a BABIP of near .300 and batted near 250.
by CarolinaDodger on Oct 8, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney
If I was a GM of a team who played in a hitters park (like the Astros or Cubs) , I would love to pick up Loney. Consequently, I think he might be our best chip this off season – which is already too long. What am I going to do for 5 months?
He'd be a good fit
in a number of ball parks. Those with deep gaps. He might lead the league in doubles in the right park. Maybe hit .300…
by wonderphenom on Oct 8, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
hell even 10 million could make a big difference
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I wonder if the "firing"
of Mannion will lead to some trimming in the Baseball Ops department starting with various Asst GMs and Special Advisors.
All 60 of Ned's assistant GMs?
http://www.23beatsoff.blogspot.com/
No real need for all of those baseball brains if there are no financial resources available to put their plans into action?
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Home lineup for a soon to be 1-1 series
Victorino CF
Polanco 3B
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Rollins SS
Ibanez LF
Ruiz C
Oswalt P
macro
fuck you ruiz
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Oct 8, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Carl Crawford is a hard player
to get a good comp for, he doesn’t have the power or plate discipline like Beltran, I saw Baseball Reference compares him to Roberto Kelly (I would say with more pop).
He really is the class of the offensive players but he is not a player who would scare any starting pitcher.
I think you would need to make a deal for someone like Fielder to do that.
Loney...
Seems like he has always hit well at Coors Field. Might a trade with the Rockies bring us the best value?
interdivsional trades
are probably hard to do. But the Rockies will probably need to get younger and better an 1B with Helton showing his age.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Baseball-Reference
He will be paid
2011: $6,000,000
2012: $4,900,000
2013: $5,000,000
2014-2023: $13,100,000 deferred with interest
In otherwords, it’s the kind of move Ned might make, except I think they want Helton to retire a Rockie.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I don’t see the Rockies trading Helton – he’s been such an integral part of their franchise for so long.
by wonderphenom on Oct 8, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
he will be
the first actual Rockie to have his number retired i think
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes me sad
but its probably the right thing to do
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it makes me sad too
but if moving Loney and Dre gets this team somewhere, I’m for it.
But I really, really like Loney.
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Me too...
He’s been my favorite Dodger since he arrived. He just seems like he’s ready for a change of scenery. Houston might be a possibility, since he is from that area.
They just got rid of Casey Kotchman because they didn’t get enough offense out of their 1B. So they traded for Branyan to fill their DL spot.
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
trade him to MIL
for Fielder, i’m sure he can hit some out there.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm getting the feeling
that Loney is simply untradeable – no matches out there for him that would bring any value!
he'd probably hit 20
playing there.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yours is the first comment
about that, I expected more.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Its hard to agree or disagree
It would certainly be fun to see him start.
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help, my elbow is being held together by calcium deposits!
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 8, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Reg's trade of him for Pagan
that is a deal I’d do but the Mets seem to be woefully short of outfielders.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Truthfully, just the line “Frank McCourt fired Ned” made me happy for the day.
by kinbote on Oct 8, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Tampa Bay...
What do you think they would give up for Jansen? It seems like he might be what they need the most, a cheap closer.
What are we waiting for!?
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this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
if we had him and dre
I, as GM, would just try and cater to the female demographic in terms of marketing, that’s a recipe for panty peeling right there.
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uh oh
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but he is wearing ed hardy
i mean… why would he do that.
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That shirt
is never ok
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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yeah
that’s actually tremendously douchey.
Wait, so is Dre! Nevermind! Women love guys who treat them like crap! AMIRITE?!
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shut up
;)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ack
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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SEE!!
I AM TOTALLY ON TO SOMETHING.
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I didn't get any further than this picture
but GOOD GOD
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No wonder he landed RiRi. That is just one attractive couple.
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No its because women only like guys who treat them like crap. And money. If those money grubbing whores saw me for the flower I am I would be plowing Rihanna now excuse me I have to masturbate on my computer chair.
by regfairfield on Oct 8, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I actually burst out laughing at this. Students must think I’m crazy.
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I appreciate
that the only thing I can bring to the discussion is whether or not we could field a hot team. You know, maybe I’ll do a fanshot about making an All-Star team of hot dudes.
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You can only do the All-Hot team
if you follow it up with the All-Ugly.
Not too many truly ugly dudes in the game today.
Now with 33% more Kavula
#1 SP
Padilla
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooh
Reg, I may need your help on that. You don’t need to launch rockets and I don’t need to write papers…RIGHT?
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Connector had
a FanPost late last season along somewhat similar lines.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That is Roberto of Vin Scully is My Homeboy
That dude is everywhere.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
you'll have a poster night
featuring Longo, Dre, and Kemp, with shirts unbuttoned to the Padilla button.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd only get that poster
if it was Dr. Dre.
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
Loney can be on it too
And there can be a special centerfold of Billz.
./fans self
I need to go call Frank.
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fanning yourself?
already a Southern Belle eh Maddz?
are you gettin tha vapors?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Chad Billingsley
and his honky tonk badonkadonk will turn any girl into a Southern Belle. That’s just science.
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you might even call it
Maddz science…………..
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
thats terrible
rec’d
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I think it’s safe to assume we all agree Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer ever.
I think it’s also safe to say we all agree Matt Kemp’s 2009 was very good, but nothing all that historical.
And yet, Mariano Rivera has never had a single season WAR higher than Matt Kemp’s 2009.
A reliever will never be more valuable than a position player.
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
Why are we excited about a
player whose career high in HRs is 11 and he hit 3 in almost a full AAA season this year.
This is what I’d hope for. I love Jansen but his value might not be higher than right now. And assuming Broxton bounces back, a #3 RP is a luxury for us.
by CarolinaDodger on Oct 8, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay, comments that take up the whole screen
So we’re left with $12,500,000 to add for what is really effectively an $82,500,000 payroll.
Trade: Russell Martin (4.5m est), Kenley Jansen (425k) and Chris Withrow to KC Royals for Zack Greinke (13.5m, 13.5m in 2012)
Trade: James Loney (4.5m) to Cubs for James Russell (425k)
Sign Adam Dunn for 3 yrs, 30m with 11m option for 2014 or 1m buyout (7m, 11m, 11m, 1m)
Sign Jay Gibbons for 1 yr 750 k with a 2.5m team option with a 250k buyout
NRI: Weaver, Milton Bradley, others
Total: +12m
C: Barajas/Ellis
1B: Dunn
2B: Theriot
3B: Blake
SS: Furcal
LF: Gibbons
CF: Kemp
RF: Ethier
BN: Carroll, Mitchell, Ellis, Paul/Hoffman/Robinson/Hu for final 2 spots
SP: Kershaw, Greinke, Billingsley, who, cares
RP: Broxton, Kuo, Tron, Wade, Weaver, Elbert, Russell
Batting order:
Furcal
Kemp
Ethier
Dunn
Blake
Gibbons
Barajas
(pitcher)
Theriot
Ely will be Who, Monk can be Cares, Link can beat Cory Wade out for a bullpen spot again, like 2008 never happened
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 8, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would take more than that to get Greinke.
by CarolinaDodger on Oct 8, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
probably another pitcher, though it’s hard to tell because Greinke isn’t cheap anymore at 2/27. Maybe the PTBNL from the Rockies will be as good as James McDonald, because he and Jansen would probably help a lot.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 8, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
there should be before and after that last sentence.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 8, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
seeing as they need help at C and they'll probably end up trading Soria
……nah they’d still want more.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
royals dont need pithing prospects
withrow would probably be their 5th best pitching prospect.. theyd want trayvon and sands
For Greinke + money…
Ethier
Choice of pitching prospects not named Zach Lee
Trayvon or Sands
Now with 33% more Kavula
duno why they would want ethier though
they are not competing Next year in 2011, not gonna fully compete in 2012 either… 2013 will be the year… so idk if ethier is someone theyd want
If the Royals are not going to win with their
homegrown Cy Young awardee why are they trading him for an expensive outfielder and two maybe prospects.
IIRC
Royals said they’d want pitchers with FOR potential for Grienke.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Lee!
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we are NOT trading lee
zack lee is going nowhere
who is they
and i dont think you heard me
It Aint Happenin..
I was wondering when the Adam Dunn based proposal would
show up.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
the
powah
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume you can trade them
but technically, while Kuo, Loney, Martin are under team control, they don’t have a contract for next year. I wonder at what point you can deal them?
I would think they would have to be under contract first
IIRC the CBA talks in terms of transferring contracts and assigning of contracts when discussing player movement.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
no seriously
you need to watch the dance off between UConn and S. Florida during a rain delay. I knew I loved baseball players.
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Bronson Arroyo vs the Phillies in Game 2W...
Why did I feel like the Reds could win this series again? Remind me? Sigh. Screw the playoffs.
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-W
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If I do this GM Game I will may try to be contrarian
and be the only one here to not trade Loney.
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I need time!
(And free time away from work.) Don’t want to do something embarrassing.
All I know is there are 3 Dodgers I absolutely won’t trade in any of my potential scenarios, and they are Kershaw, Bills and Kemp.
Prospects I’d rather not trade under almost any circumstance are very few, but one of them is Sands because I’d rather see what he can do as a Dodger than as a member of another team. (Though Greinke sure is tempting.)
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Without pulling a rabbit out of the hat
I’d peg the ceiling on our 2011 team true talent (win) level at 84 wins. To get to 90 wins we’d need either (said) rabbit or around 3 of our players to have stronger than predicted seasons without any major dropoffs.
Etheir and Kemp
having really good seasons would be a boon to this offense.
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84 wins?
Mayyybe. They won 80 this year and that included the month of May, when they probably played over their heads. Take out that one month and consider only the other five, when they went a combined 60-74. That is a 72-win pace for 5/6 of the year.
Look, I know it’s suspect just to throw out the best month, but I think there is reason to believe that the key word on your post is “ceiling.” Right now, the rabbits-out-of-hats and everything going right gets the team to 84 wins. If they do not improve and if anything goes slightly wrong — starting with Furcal getting injured, Kemp not bouncing back, etc — then we aren’t at 84 and counting… we’re significantly below that.
Now with 33% more Kavula
I wouldn't say
that, they an absolutely horrible offense for half a year too.
I know you believe that this team could collapse this year but here’t the thing, they probably will never be in a situation to be a true bottom dweller short of more injuries next season. What they probably will be is a team tat could win anywhere from 78-84 wins, that won’t get you a great draft pick.
I get your point, and I believe that the most likely outcome is within a couple of games of 81-81.
However, I do feel that it’s likely that next year’s team won’t even be as good as this year’s team. Manny wasn’t around a lot, but when he was around, he hit — he was the team’s best hitter. He’s gone. Furcal wasn’t around enough, but for a time, he was on fire… he won’t stay healthy next year, and when he’s in the lineup, he may fall off a bit. Kuroda was healthy all season long — so many plans above call for bringing him back, but he could very well go down for a time. So even if Kemp/Ethier bounce back a bit, there are still many things that make the 2011 squad, today, worse than the 2010 squad.
Now with 33% more Kavula
The best part about win counts is that they can be easily influenced by luck. This team could stay exactly the same, and through a combination of over performance and timely hitting easily win 90 games.
Scrap next year
Pay off every player that’s not on the team that we owe money too. Fill the holes with minor league players. When 2012 comes it’s going to be on and popin’
BTW
Zach Lee cannot be traded until at least next summer or so when he can be named a player to be named later.
I heard there was a party here
I was promised cupcakes.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
If you drive to Nashville, I’ll make you cupcakes! I need someone to rant with me about the Giants.
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I'll confirm that
I just had an oreo cupcake today, though, it was delightful
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I can see that
being a delicious dish. There’s this mobile cupcakery in Berkeley had had a smore cupcake with toasted marshmallow instead of icing. It’s probably my fav fav, but I don’t like claiming small sample things as best
I live within 5 minutes walking distance of 5 bars and 4 restaurants. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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same. Irish pub I can see out my window has delicious beer!
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
there are places in San Francisco that ask a minimum of $15 for a cocktail. I can several meals for that!
your local bar is Dodger Stadium?
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 8, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The big bottle of Bombay Sapphire
1.75 L, just $29 at Costco.
Course that’s not all that cheap when you go through three in a week.
Now with 33% more Kavula
I seriously hate shit like this. $15 for a freaking cocktail? I would rather go and buy a whole bottle of something and have some friends over.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
but then you get people who are like “oh, let’s make flaming dr. peppers!” and then you find out both that it IS possible to set your coffee table on fire and that the man you are dating is ridiculously clumsy.
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What kind of people do you hang out with? Geez
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Then again, I am lame. I am all for making Margaritas from the Trader Joe’s mix and then playing a Euro board game like Puerto Rico or Ticket to Ride.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm ok with this
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as am I
can we hang out at your place pretty please?
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Last year while camping out for the Rose Parade, we had margaritas in sippy cups and were playing Settlers and other stuff like that. Needless to say the cops did not look our way.
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that story.
The trick is to buy the bottle, slam it at home, then let your friends cart you around the rest of the night while you sip on a 15 dollar drink.
Fuck me, I had to mention cupcakes. Now I want to go downstairs and get some.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
probably worse
college eatery
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Downtown phoenix has a number of tasty options
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I did go to that pizza place
where you have to stand in line for hours and hours last spring. Fortunately for me someone else stood in line.
I want
some gorram sugar cookies
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Blackjack
I break the mold baby
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
me?
none really.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
I would admit that if I was a fan. My bro is a UCLA fan, he freely proclaims it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
how can i find out which pitcher had the most swing and misses in 1 game?
i cant find it anywhere
i found the top 4 this year
Tim licecum yesterday had 31!
Morrow of toronto had 26
Josh johnson and buchholtz had 25 in a game this year
ahaha
I thought you meant pitchers swing and missing while at bat, which made me giggle at pitchers. They’re so funny
this is what I thought, too
and I was like, man, that’s kind of harsh…and funny
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Oooh Busted
Jim Calhoun is about to be grounded.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
OT
has anyone ever seen the movie Volver? It’s a Spanish film starring Penelope Cruz. This hefty whore just wondered if Penelope was suddenly interested in muff diving. Hilarious!
Not yet, though it is in my keyvip.
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Yes
good movie. I like how the whole guy stuffed in the freezer wasn’t even a big plot point by the end of the movie.
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seems to be a common theme in female dominated stories. Not always death, but whenever the husband/lover/boyfriend exits stags left it’s kinda….meh
fair enough
although in this case it seems to take it to the extreme.
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the (literary) feminist critic in me
says sometimes dead bodies don’t need to be focused on at plot points, but as the removal of a husband willing to make out with his step daughter, mirroring his wife being raped by her father
You got Penolope and you mess with her daughter
you deserve to spend the hereafter in a meat locker.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Is that the one where he then
uh, really does go muff diving, in an unforgettable scene… (Or was that a different recent Almodovar?)
I love his films.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ok, how bad of an idea would it be
to get my laptop, go to a sports bar, write this 2-3 page paper and sit on TBLA for the rest of the night?
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Why
is there a dress code at the local sports bar. Or would she get hammered and rip them off thinking she was subbing in for a starter.
Because there’s always that weird dude at the sports bar wearing sweatpants with a laptop that I assume is checking his fantasy team the whole time. You don’t want to be that guy.
If I'm that guy
I’m automatically hotter by virtue of a girl that a) knows how to wear sweatpants and b) plays fantasy sports.
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wear a laser tag vest too, than you get a c) bullet point.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I'll just take Bodhi with me
he’ll threaten to wish them into Nebraska if they don’t allow me to write my 2-3 page paper on ethics in peace!
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who wears sweatpants? They’re like an unnecessary step between pajamas and being naked
by Josie Becker on Oct 8, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Some people treat sweatpants as pajamas
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yeah
I honestly don’t care if the hipsters (and boy, are there ever hipsters) think less of me.
By the way, some chick who lives 10 minutes outside of NYC in Jersey told me that LA isn’t a real city. I just looked at her.
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tell her that you aren’t convinced people from Jersey are real people.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I subscribe to the Ted Moseby theory of NJ/NYC
so technically I don’t think she can claim NYC as her own. Seeing as she doesn’t live there.
…it’s sort of like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
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hehe
you would make my coworker sad
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that’s my goal in life nolly, making your coworker sad for living in the meth capital of the universe
Is riverside worse then Nashville?
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i've heard this theory before
it’s also known as the LA is 15 suburbs looking for a city theory. Anyone whose been anywhere between Santa Monica, downtown, burbank, and Manhattan beach knows that’s insane.
Man
The University of Oregon is good at football.
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that sound you hear is Uncle Google softly sobbing into a crimson and gold afghan.
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I’m unconvinced unless Lame Kiffin can get more out of his 5 stars
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
The main conflicts tomorrow are
between the bands. I present Countermarch and Big C v sons of westwood
the one time I post a USC positive thing and you make allusions to the c-word. Alright, I got my eye on you
I remember the first time I heard Cal play their fight song
and I said, hey, that sounds like UCLA’s fight song.
All this talk of drinking and baseball
I think we should have another TBLA booze night where Eric leaves good bottles of alcohol at awesome bars in Hollywood!!
And we get them to put the game on the super huge big screen!
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We should have a booze scavenger hunt
no driving of course
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade Loney and Broxton to CHC for Hak-Ju Lee and filler.
Try to resign Russ at discounted rate and resign Rod
Mark Ellis is better than Theriot at everything except staying healthy.
Javy Vazquez doesn’t want to come to the WC but maybe be won’t have a choice.
The outfield offense might a take a hit but it should be much, much better on defense.
Sign Pena @ 8 mil and give him a decent option year.
Catchers
Martin resigned @ 3.5MM
Rod @ 1MM
4.5 million
INF
Pena @ 8MM
Mark Ellis @ 5MM – 2/12
Raffy @ 12MM
Blake @ 5.5MM
27MM
RESERVE INF
Grit on a stick @ 2.5MM
Hu @ 500,000
Roughly 30 million or 33 million
Outfield
Kemp – RF @ 7.1MM
Robinson/Paul/Reed mega platoon CF @ 450,000
LF – Dre @ 9,250,000MM
OF1 – Reed @ 2MM
OF2 – Paul @ 450,000
Roughly 20MM
Pitching
SP1 – Kershaw @ 1,500,000 / signs deal 6YR@52MM 11’@1.5MM,12’@3MM,13’@5MM,14’@10MM,15’@13MM,16’@17MM
SP2 – Bills @ 5 / signs deal 4YR@40. 11’@ 5MM,12’@9MM,13’@12MM,Player option14’ @14MM
SP3 – Kuroda @ 9MM
SP4 – Javy Vazquez @ 6.5MM with incentives around 4MM
SP5 – Ely @ 450,000
22.5 Million
Pen
RP1 – Link @ 450,000
RP2 – Tron @ 450,000
RP3 – Jansen @ 450,000
RP4 – Elbert @ 450,000 / LOOGY and hit a batter when they fuck with us
RP5 – Beli @ 450,000
RP6 – Kuo @ 2,500,000 / Closer
RP7 – Monk @ 450,000
5 Million
Pitching staff – 27.5 Million – 31.5
I have no idea how this will end up looking
Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980
Why does no one sell Slippers in the shape of dinosaur feet?
I DEMAND ANSWERS.
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I'm bummed
the best I can find are godzilla ones, but those are grey. I need some green ones for my Rex costume. I figure it completes my costume and I get awesome slippers. Sadly the world has conspired against me.
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Oh, this is for Halloween. Pssh.
I assumed it was for a more noble cause like everyday slipper wearing.
Oh they will be
Thats why I want them so bad. The idea came because of halloween, but these suckers will be all up on my feet after that.
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No no-hitter tonight
But I usually sext between 5-8pm
Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 8, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not for the phillies
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Are there any recent articles on Zach Lee?
Id like to read up on him
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
Love how you just had 200 people go Google “Zach Lee Injury”. Does Uncle Google get commission from Papa Google?
On the flip side, the first article I got when I searched for “Zach Lee Injury” was a Louisiana-based article titled ‘Zach Lee Likely to Stick With Football’.
I laughed about it later that evening.
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Just this tidbit from the other day in MLB Fanhouse
A teenager who was guaranteed $5.5 million two months ago, Dodgers prospect Zach Lee seemingly is hungry to earn that money.
“His work ethic is unbelievable,” Dodgers farm director DeJon Watson said of the team’s first-round draft pick from last June.
Lee, who had a football scholarship to LSU, “really gets after it in the workouts,” Watson said. “He’s at the front of everything we do.” Wednesday at the team’s training site in Arizona, Watson watched Lee throw two scoreless innings with a fastball that spanned 90-94, plus a good curveball and a pretty good changeup.
• The son of a former big leaguer is creating buzz at Dodgers instructional games and workouts.
“James Baldwin is a guy to keep your eye on,” Watson said of the 18-year-old drafted in the fourth round last June. “He’s a guy who’s going to pop up quickly.” Baldwin, whose father James was an All-Star pitcher 10 years ago for the White Sox, struck out in half of his rookie-league at-bats yet batted .274 with 17 stolen bases in 46 games. “He’s going to stay in center field,” Watson said, citing the 6-foot-3 athlete’s speed and instincts.
Lol Phillies, Lol
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in play run(s)
someone pinch me
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2-0 reds
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
whats the score?
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Another horrible throw by Utley, brings home a run.
That was a double play, and he bounced one badly
I know it is easier said than done, but Howard just needs to come off the bag and stop that thing
by robotmadeofnails on Oct 8, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
2-0 reds
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
UtLOLey
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
lolroyo
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The evening game
Braves:
Infante 3b
Heyward rf
Lee 1b
McCann C
Cabrera lf
Conrad 2b
Gonzalez ss
Ankiel cf
Hanson P
The losing team
Giants:
Torres cf
Sanchez 2b
Huff 1b
Posey c
Burrell lf
Uribe ss
Sandoval 3b
Ross rf
CainP
Im at work and rushed throug this, but I couldn't resist. I think the numbers would add up.
Re-Sign Lily
trade Loney, Paul, Withrow to Tampa for Garza.
Non tender Martin
Non Tender Theriot
Re-sign Barajas
Re-Sign Gibbons
re-sign Reed Johnson
Sign Carlos Pena
sign Harang
Sign Felipe Lopez
Trade Broxton and Blake to Baltimore for nothing (perhaps minor league filler) Orioles take on the cash, fill two needs.
lineup
CF-Trayvone
SS-Frucal
RF-Ethier
CF-Kemp
1B-Pena
3B-Lopez
C-Ellis/Rod
2B-DeJesus
IF Bench- Carrol, Hu
OF-Bench- Gibbons, Johnson
Sands playing 3rd in the minors
SP
Kershaw
Bills
Garza
Lily
Harang
RP
Kuo
Jensen
Belisario
Tron
Leach
Link
Weaver
Crap lineup with big gambles on travone and Lopez, DeJesus can’t be much worse than Theriot, lineup becomes serviceable if Kemp, Pena, Ethier and Lopez all have bounce back seasons.
Strong starting pitching. Decent bullpen (especially if Belly bounces back).
Apologies for my half assed ness
now back to work:(
Guys
I’m sitting next to three Phillies fans. I’m so scared. Also, I have not been served yet. I am a sad panda.
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No!
This chick is sex eyeing the dudes next to me. THEY ARE PHILLY FANS. THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY UNHOT.
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IMPORTANT
Chicken tenders or philly cheese steak while yelling about how the best thing about Philly is this delightful sandwich?
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i dunno, strips I’d believe are chicken. Tenders occupy some dead zone between nuggets and strips and can be anything
I hate lettuce
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It taunts me
I can’t stand the taste, but its usually the key element in a healthy meal. Boy could I use a healthy meal.
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No cheesesteaks
during the playoffs.
Unless it goes by another name, like a Sicilian chicken sandwich at Oggi’s or something similar.
oh come on
I’m not detractor from irrational Philly hate, but at a certain point don’t we just have to say the Phillies were due and the Dodgers couldn’t surmount the team they could be in 3 or 4 years with the right moves
Have you been there before?
Is there a reasonable expectation the sammich will be good? If no, then go with the Tenders.
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Its nashville though
how many options you think she has?
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End this Votto
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Maybe Reds getting off to good start can give Braves some hope in the later game
Except Reds have a good lineup.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
when your lineup makes the giants’ look robust in comparison your team sucks
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 8, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Question for the hellbound
Is it bad that in the TBLA Playoff Pool I chose Vlad and Votto to not hit any home runs because Votto had anxiety issues?
Poison kills 80 children in Uganda. Damn you, Brett Michaels! Damn you!
Jokes on him
He’s Laynce Nix.
Yes I know he sleeps on a pile of money with lots of beautiful women. Don’t bother pointing that out.
Victory Day?
that sounds good to me
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What is that pitch
the offspeed 70sish mph thing Arroyo is throwing?
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Oh man.
Apparently all the Reds fans are in the other room. But this room has a bigger TV. Hmmm.
Guys, I’m drinking Guinness (for Josie) and writing a paper on African American Social Ethics, while watching the playoffs. Even I’m jealous of my life.
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kind of. apparently it might be directly above me. I’m gauging how much I want to piss off the bar staff by trying to plug into it. I figure if I keep buying stuff they won’t be mad if I take the power source for their wicked heineken neon sign.
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there's one great one
called “Smoke on the Water”
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
they're talking about Broxton and Matt Stairs
I changed the subject to Matt Holiday
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in this room
in the other room, they’re going nuts
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So are AZ fans
watching the UConn and Tennessee situations re what their sanctions will be carefully.
Sanctions were already handed out to AZ
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UConn especially
Theyve done so pretty bad things, and their self-imposed sanctions are just a slap on the wrist. The NCAA better do something
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, what UofA did was really minor. Uconn had better get USC treatment
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someone want to fill me in?
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Just a little info
Over the course of the 14-month investigation that centered on the recruitment of Nate Miles and the involvement of former UConn basketball manager Josh Nochimson, the university determined that members of the men’s basketball staff, including former director of basketball operations Beau Archibald and former assistant coach Patrick Sellers engaged in hundreds of impermissible telephone calls and text messages and provided game tickets to various individuals, contrary to NCAA legislation. Archibald and Sellers earlier resigned.
The university also concluded that a former staff member (Archibald) provided impermissible assistance to a prospective student-athlete (Miles). Further, it was determined that Nochimson provided impermissible benefits to the same prospective student-athlete. Finally, the university concluded that it failed to monitor those activities.
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In my opinion, the NCAA is cracking down on the wrong people. Institutions and coaches are under pressure from fans to win, so those coaches that break the rules and institutions that turn a blind eye are rewarded with cashflow.
Until coaches or players are punished more harshly for violating rules there will be programs like Kentucky who get desperate enough to hire coaches like Calipari who are notorious for bending the rules to land recruits.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Uconn suggested 2 year probation and 1 reduced scholarship
They better have a 1 year post-season ban as well
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
that is gone
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
By the way
You know how Bride is an astronomer? well, we know one of the astonomers who was in on the pluto’s-not-a-planet thing…. just saying…
Now with 33% more Kavula
The Astronomer who shows up on Stewart
is one of my favorite guests. I’m make him president in a second.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Indeed he is
time to make a science person president, the Lawyers/Actors/Peanut farmers had there run.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That Zach Lee injury was a joke right?
If so.. . .not cool man
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions
The best part
about the Reds being up 3-0 is that the Phillies suck. My biggest fear is that Philly fans will use those rally towels to make Molotov Cocktails
that gapper got a huge round of applause. C’MON ARROYO!
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Does every fan base in the playoffs HAVE to wave towels now?
Is that a MLB prerequisite? Gah. Giants fans and Phillies fans waving ’em make me angriest of all. But everyone does it.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
you have a supporter
in Wainwright
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Hehe touche
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I jus don't like
all the fuzz that it invariably kicks up
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Still less annoying
then thundersticks
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I'll give you that
Thundersticks + Rally Monkeys = hell.
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I was cool with the rally monkey
until fox got a hold of it
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I really wonder if it’s a team based enterprise or a MLB initiative. I think it’s the former, and it’s probably just the cheapest but best looking rally item so it’s caught on. Personally I prefer the mini pom pom, cause the towel gets caught and you have to reverse directions, unless you get a lot of wrist spin action
I was about to say I have a lot of wrist spin action but that doesn’t really bode well for me in terms of respectability
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Dang.
Ducks vs Red Wings. I have no idea to root for.
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i was paying homage!!
fine! a tornado!
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sudden childhood memory → there was an episode of some sitcom that had the changing of the floor at the Boston Garden as a plot point
You might be thinking of the Cheers episode
where they were trying to figure out how many screws were used on the floor.
root for the ducks
at least it is edible
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ducks
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QUACK
QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK
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I know
I’ll root for the Sabres. Hooray!
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Moby puts on a great show. Ask Reg, we had a dance off to end all dance offs
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Are you guys playing the Tangent Game?
Sort of like Build a Title but instead of building off movie titles you’re building off thoughts and then going tangential… ;-)
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Y'know what's a good game?
Settlers of Catan. Also Arkham Asylum I think it’s called, it’s some horror mystery game
I've played the former
my stepbro is a total board game hipster. Introduced me to Carcasson too and a few other cool ones.
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I use my phone for coupons. Delicious coupons.
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What are you a goat?
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Yes
but whenever I hear of it I go to Batman in my head instead.
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Also: Eurogames...
…any of you play Caylus? That game rules, and it rules with an iron fist.
Now with 33% more Kavula
Breakfasts come and go, but Hartford…? The Whale…? They only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime."
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
50 points to the person who names movie and actor. points may or may not be redeemable for cupcakes and Gin
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Mallrats.
Please send cupcakes to me via PayPal.
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winner! for 50 bonus points, that quote is slightly incorrect, what word is left out?
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
you forgot the actor
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Go Ducks
I’ve decided to root for the Ducks regardless of my ex being a huge Ducks fan. I was going back and forth wondering if I should become a Kings fan just to spite her, but I decided just fuck her I like them, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
WTF
WHY AM I WATCHING A MEG WHITMAN FOR GOVERNOR COMMERICIAL?! MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!
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I TOO HAVE LOUD OPINIONS ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THE DAY!
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I swear to God, Kevin, Bodhi owes me a favor
Mostly, I thought I escaped her crazy ass by moving to the South.
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please note
there is a video of Bodhi licking me on facebook. This is what my life has become.
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also
it’s happy hour. 2 for 1. I didn’t know this. This paper is going to be HILARIOUS.
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Wait, I thought you were in Tennessee?
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I AM
That’s why I was so shocked. Apparently this bar gets the Ducks Prime Ticket feed. I’m going to have to sweet talk the bar into playing Lakers games…
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College Football Betting
How much of a lock is Stanford -9.5 against USC. This honestly looks like free money
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:37 PM PDT reply actions
Perfect storm scenario in my book. Stanford just got destroyed by a team that would win the NFC west and USC is still a little overrated. Take stanford.
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The NFC West is Gawdaful
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or...
Stanford’s defense isn’t that good, and USC’s running game might take advantage.
That said, if I had to pick a side on which to bet, I would pick Stanford, but the points seem like too many.
Andrew Luck is good at football. Stanford’s defense is suspect, but I think there is a good chance of Stanford putting up 40+. I dont think USC puts up 30
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Yeah USC's defense is going to get absolutely shredded
USC seems to be consistently overrated as far as the spreads go. Theyve covered once this year and that was wazzu
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw Hawaii's 3rd string QB dominate that USC defense
I almost want to say that anything living is a good bet to have success against SC
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 8, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If Oswalt leaves
after 5, he will have exactly half of Hallday’s game score, 47.
(50+15+2+5) – (10+12+2+1) = 47
Dodger cards
I’m sure no one cares at this point, but I was catching up on TBLA comments and just saw the question from the other day about whether the baseball cards that I did for ESPNLA were in any kind of order. The answer is no. I had a max of 26 slots from ESPNLA, so I just started whittling away at my Cogs and Dogs list, but as I was making changes, I just removed and inserted people without regard to order. I meant to go back and put them in alphabetical or numerical order (by uniform) but honestly forgot to do it. So that’s why it sort of seems like they might be in order – but honestly, they aren’t.
Also, as David Y. said, please don’t hesitate to ask on DT if you have a question about something I’ve written. The commenting system isn’t that inscrutable … :)
Now, back to things that matter …
I have never understood the "furd" thing
How are Cal folk insulting us by indicating that they don’t know how to spell?
Its the same with ASU fans calling the UofA “AU” because some announcer 20 years ago fucked up and was calling us “Arizona University”
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
if you can’t remember a cheer consisting of U, of, and A then there’s something seriously wrong with your fanbase
they split the stadium up and hold the signs to let fans know what your section of the stadium needs to yell. Usually the East stands yell “U”, the end zones yell “of” and the West stands yell “A”
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I’m sorry, I’ll write a letter. While I do that can you draft one to Tedford about how it is way easier to win football games when you score touchdowns?
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I went to a D3 school. GO ACADEMICS!
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D3 athletics
are no barrier to the Major Leagues, says my man Nelson Figueroa.
BRANDEIS REPRESENT!
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I usually don’t do it, seems petty, but when addressing a Stanford person it’s a sign of disrespect, like all the signs in Palo Alto what read Kal (and you know they exist)
I’ve been visiting or living in that town for over 30 years and honestly have never seen such a sign.
hey now
I’m not a homewrecker. I try to keep it classy.
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How is that homewrecking? Unless you’re trying to get me in trouble?
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Wearing sweatpants on a notebook in a sports bar?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I know what you meant
but the grammarian in me is wondering how the sweatpants are attached to the notebook
It just got reallllly loud in here
no me gusta
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STOP MAKING ERRORS
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Yuck
might be time for some 105 MPH heat
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Or any Left handed pitcher with a pulse
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Zombie Pitchers
scary
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
God is dead
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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In this picture, the ball represents the Reds' defense.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I love these Allstate commercials.
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Conan will be dead to everyone by the end of this series
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I am just so happy (SO HAPPY) it’s not Chip Carry (Caray?).
PS Why did I think that it would be a good idea to drink and work?
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I’m telling you, send me a copy of this paper.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I just spilled guinness on my white peasant blouse. I am the epitome of classy.
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Like this?
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
by K3vo on Oct 8, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
careful Maddz
you’re treading into “cute” territory
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 8, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I never understood why women showing signs of early tipsyness is considered cute? is it an innocence thing? the white would fit that motif
most guys like women to be helpless occasionally
and some to be regularly helpless, it helps guys justify their own existence.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
When did you come out of your shell?
I blame you for the Dodgers downfall. Eveything went to hell in a hand basket when you left LA.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Funny how Bruce and Kemp both went off the last week
home run style
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Other then breaking through the window the Juke commercial was cool
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
To bad Stubbs is righthanded
he seems like a left handed player. Probably because of Franklin
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
C'mon Reds
you’re in the soft underbelly of the Phillies bullpen.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
I LOVE the deal for Alex Gordon, I’m really a big fan of his potential, and get him out of Kansas City where he was proclaimed to be the next George Brett and he may not have as much pressure weighing down his play.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Lineup RHP:
Furcal-SS-12M
DeJesus-2B-400K
Kemp-CF-7.1
Andre-RF-9.25
Berkman(1/8M)-1B
Gomes-LF-1M
Mitchell-3B-400K
Martin-C-5M
P
Bench-Blake-5.25, Barajas-1M, Gibbons-500K, Carroll-2.5, Paul-425K, Hu-420K=53.245
LHP:
Furcal-SS
DeJesus-2B
Kemp-CF
Andre-RF
Gomes-LF
Mitchell-3B
Blake-1B
Martin-C
P
Bench-Berkman, Barajas, Gibbons, Carroll, Paul, Hu
Rotation- Kershaw-500K, Billz-7M, Lilly(2 years, 18M, or 3/27)-9M, Padilla(1/5M)-5M, prospect acquired for Loney… explained below-420K=75.165
Pen- Broxton-7M, Kuo-4M, Jansen-420, Belisario-425K, Weaver-1M, Sherrill(DFA’d, resign 1/1M)-1M-13.845
As you can see, I’m trying to keep most of the team together. The only exception is Loney. Never as in love with him, and I think he gets dealt. Like I said in the rotation prediction, I doubt we get anything good other than a prospect who has #5 potential. And we will probably start him. We resign Martin, but DFA Theriot and Sherrill. Let Theriot walk, giving DeJesus the job. Sherrill seems like a LOOGY, and 1M is a guess. Too high, too low, or just right? The only stretch is the Berkman signing. Based on how he is playing with the Yanks and Astros, I see no way his option is picked up. He’ll be lucky to get 8M, considering two down years. Berkman and Blake platoon at 1B. Mitchell gets the job at 3B, same with DeJesus at 2B. Gomes is signed for LF because we need power out of the LF spot to protect Andre and Kemp. The combination of Andre, Kemp, Gomes and Berkman gives us serious power, and Furcal, Martin and DeJesus give us OBP.
That adds up to 89.01M. If we have to be at or very close to 83M, my solution is DFA Casey Blake as well and have Berkman play full time 1B
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Oct 8, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions
ah
Did not realize that. Then we could dump him somewhere(use his LHH splits to get someone to take him as a platoon guy) or McCourt just needs to suck it up :)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Oct 8, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
My Plan
1/ Non-tender Martin & Theriot
2/ Trade Loney/Paul for Guthrie
3/ Re-sing Padilla: 1 year/4M$
4/ Re-sing Barajas: 1 year/1M$
5/ Trade Broxton/Blake for Chris Johnson
6/ Sign Hinske: 1 year/1.5M$
7/ Sign Dunn: 3 years/40M$
8/ Sign Gomes: 1 year/3M$
9/ Re-sing Kuroda: 1 year/12M$
10/ Sign Lopez: 1 year/2M$
Rotation:
Kershaw: 500K$
Bills: 6.75M$
Kuroda: 12M$
Padilla: 4M$
Guthrie: 4M$
Total: 27M$
Bullpen:
CL Jansen: 450K$
SU Kuo: 2M$
LHP Elbert: 450K$
RHP Benoit: 1.5M$
RHP Belisario: 500K$
RHP Monk: 450K$
RHP: Gaudin 800K$
Total: 6.7M$
Lineup:
SS Furcal 12M$
2B Carroll 2.5M$
1B Dunn 12M$
CF Kemp 7.1M$
RF Ethier 9.25M$
LF Gomes 2M$
3B Johnson 450K$
C Barajas 1M$
Total: 46.3M$
Bench:
C Ellis: 450K$
1B/LF/3B Mitchell: 450K$
1B/LF Hinske: 1.5M$
2B/SS Hu: 450K$
3B/2B/SS Lopez: 1.5M$
Total: 4.35M$
Deferred Money:
17,177,596$
Total: 101,527,596$
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brane'
that’s a 100 million dollar 3rd place team.
by Brane on Oct 8, 2010 7:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
what I think will happen
1. Sign a couple of injured/rehab type SP; like Webb, Bedard and hope/pray that one of them amounts to something. Then flip the live body at the trade deadline for a prospect. This didn’t work for the A’s (Sheets) last year but maybe LAD will get lucky this year. Triple A filler like Ely, Monasterios, will be the #5 SP.
2. Give Paul, Ellis, other 3A types full opportunity to fail in the majors.
3. Non tender Martin, Theriot. Allow Kuroda and Lilly to walk, no arb offer to Lilly, he might accept.
4. Look at available non tender, free agents in February to see who is desperate for a job. Hope to get luckier than the Ortiz boys.
5. Trade either Kemp or Loney for younger, cheaper prospects.
I know this is not a pretty scenario but it will have a dramatically lower payroll and hopefully allow one years worth of bad deferred contracts to lapse. It also puts pressure on the front office to perform and raise payroll in 2012 to preserve attendance and ratings.
I think the off season will be more driven by Dodger finances than 2011 pennant dreams. Plus there may be some pressure from MLB towards the Dodgers (and other teams) to clean up their finances. Sorry this doesn’t exactly fit the 100M budget but I really think the real budget will be substantially lower. I hope I am 100% wrong with this post and money becomes available to field a competitive team.
by kimo from kauai on Oct 9, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
My faint ray of hope comes from
the idea that Frank McCourt didn’t let Dennis Mannion go and didn’t make himself more visible again to preside over that kind of team. If he had to go that route, wouldn’t he and his ego just stay in the shadows and let Colletti and Mannion be the bad guys?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If I were GM
TRADE: LAD/TB
Dodgers Get: IF Ben Zobrist, P Matt Garza
Rays Get: P Jonathan Broxton, 1B James Loney, P Ethan Martin, OF Trayvon Robinson, P Scott Elbert, IF Ivan DeJesus Jr
TRADE: LAD/CIN
Dodgers Get: 1B Yonder Alonso (400k), OF Drew Stubbs (400k)
Reds Get: P Rubby De La Rosa, P Ethan Martin, P Josh Lindblom, C Russell Martin, OF Blake Smith
TRADE: LAD/CHIC
Dodgers Get: 3B Aramis Ramirez + $7M from Cubs
Cubs Get: 3B Casey Blake, IF Jamey Carroll, P Ramon Troncoso, OF Brian Cavazos-Galvez, P Matt Magill,
P Steven Ames, P John Ely, P Aaron Miller
RE-SIGN: P Vicente Padilla – 1yr $3M
OF Jay Gibbons – 1yr $900k
C Rod Barajas – 1yr $1M
SIGN: P J.J. Putz – 2yrs $5M (1.5M 1st Year, 2.5M 2nd Year, 3rd Year Option ($3M) or $1M Buyout)
P Aaron Harang – 2yrs $12M ($4M first year, $6M 2nd Year, 3rd Year Option ($10M) or $2M Buyout)
P Hisanori Takahashi 2yrs $7.5M ($3M first year, $4.5M 2nd Year)
IF Jorge Cantu – 1yr $2M plus Incentives that could net him another $2M
UT Jerry Hairston Jr – 1yr $900k
SP: Clayton Kershaw ($500k), Matt Garza ($6M), Chad Billingsley ($5.5M), Vicente Padilla ($3M), Aaron Harang ($4M)
RP: Hong-Chih Kuo ($2.5M), Kenley Jansen ($405K), J.J. Putz ($1.5M) Ronald Belisario ($420K), Jon Link ($405k)
Hisanori Takahashi ($3M)
STARTERS:
SS Rafael Furcal ($12M)
2B Ben Zobrist ($5.25M)
LF Andre Ethier ($9.25M)
3B Aramis Ramirez ($7.5M)
RF Matt Kemp ($7.1M)
1B Yonder Alonso ($405K)
CF Drew Stubbs ($405k)
C Rod Barajas ($1M)
BENCH:
IF Jorge Cantu (2M)
IF Jerry Hairston Jr (900K)
OF Jay Gibbons ($900K)
C AJ Ellis ($420k)
STARTING ROTATION = $19,000,000
BULLPEN = $7,230,000
STARTING POSITION PLAYERS = $42,925,000
BENCH POSITION PLAYERS = $6,220,000
DEFERRED PAYMENTS = $17,177,596
TOTAL PAYROLL = $92,552,596
P.S.
I do know I only have 24 players there. The last one can be made up of either an OF or a RP. I just couldn’t decide lol.
I like it except for a couple things.
1) It’s unlikely that Alonso would start over Cantu, even though cantu struggled this year against everyone outside of Los Angeles.
2) The days of trading quantity for quality are over. GMs realized they were dealing stars away for a lottery ticket, and only getting better odds on the lottery by getting more instead of better.
3) With the CHC trade, You’re trading them a 38 year old who can’t hit righties (70% of MLB pitchers), a 36 year old utility infielder who can’t start, a reliever who is two years removed from a good season and even then he was outperforming his peripherals, BCG is good but a bit too far from MLB for the Cubs to like him, ditto for Magill and Ames, and a guy with a 7 ERA in the majors this year who struggles to hit 90mph. Miller is a nice piece but he’s still all projection.
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Well said, though I don’t agree on quantity vs. quality trades. I also think the Rays would balk at that offer.
The Alonso trade is interesting, though. Reds have a surplus at 1B, some talented arms in the minors and could use some MLB help in starting pitching.
Remember when Loney had 15 home runs in like 310 plate appearances that one year? :(
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that’s too much for Aramis I think, plus you traded Ethan Martin twice.
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lol
yeah I meant to put Chris Withrow into the Reds trade. My bad. And I know Cantu is “likely” to start since Alonso is unproven but I was thinking Cantu would get plenty of starts considering Aramis’ health, Stubbs possible regression (sliding Zobrist to RF and Kemp back to CF) and Yonder. But with Alonso in the minors you would have Cantu/Gibbons at 1B which still is not bad. The main thing I was going for was versatility with the players and debated long and hard about trading a middle reliever (Schlicting) for Doumit since he can Catch, play 1st and RF. But he is a brutal Catcher and expensive so I decided against it. I love the versatility that Zobrist would bring, the speed/versatility of Hairston, Cantu’s ability to play 3 positions adequately and the OF defense of Ethier, Stubbs, and Kemp.
Again, I’m depleting the hell out of the minor leagues though leaving only Sands, Gordon (if he pans out), and filler pieces. It’s also a LOT of 40 man spots being left open and I doubt these teams would want to use up their own 40 spots on all the players they’d be sent in my proposals.
by LVproduction on Oct 10, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
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