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Will Werth Make A Return to Dodger Blue?

Part three of our four-part series on highly-desirable free-agent position players that the Los Angeles Dodgers are unlikely to sign this off-season focuses on erstwhile Phillies right fielder Jayson Werth.

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Jayson Werth has a ring.  A ring in a box.  Oh, wait, the manager of TBLA demands more substantive paragraphs from his writers.

The Obvious Attraction

Two items that should be on Ned Colletti's wish list this winter are a power bat and an outfielder.  Werth would fill both spots in one fell swoop.  In his four seasons with Philadelphia, Werth has compiled a triple-slash line of .282 / .380 / .506, an .885 OPS (131 OPS+), and for the cherry on top, stolen 60 bases in 68 attempts (88% success rate).  His career wOBA** is .372, with his Phillies years ranging from .382 to .397 (park adjusted: .374 to .396, per StatCorner.com).  On top of that, he is an accomplished RF sporting a 10.4 career UZR/150 and considered a good enough outfielder that managers have given him 80 career starts in center as well.  Presumably Andre Ethier would be plenty happy to slide over to left field to make room for Werth.

**wOBA is a batting statistic that uses linear weights to gauge a hitter's effectiveness more accurately than, say, OPS does.  It is scaled to be similar to OBP, so recent league average wOBAs are in the low .330s.

As batters, Ethier and Werth would make bookend corner OFs, a right/left matching pair.  Over the past three seasons, Ethier has hit .289 / .366 / .504, .870 OPS (132 OPS+), wOBA range of .367 to .382 (park adjusted: .369 to .387), .364 career wOBA.  Werth and Ethier also have the 22nd and 24th highest OPS+ in baseball over the last four years, 2000 PA minimum.

For many fans, Werth is the fish that was reeled into the boat and then got away.  He was obtained by the Dodgers in one of the first moves by Paul DePodesta in exchange for middle reliever Jason Fraser.  He showed glimpses of his future production, appearing in 191 games over three season, but he played through the second season with a bum wrist, first broken by an A. J. Burnett pitch in spring training, and subsequently missed his entire third season trying to rehab that same wrist after two ligament tears were surgically repaired.  Faced with a roster crunch, Ned Colletti chose to stick with Jason Repko (among others) and non-tendered Werth four years ago, after having signed Juan Pierre to an infamous five-year contract.

Caveat Emptor

Werth is represented by Scott Boras, whom you may heard of.  Coupling that fact with the speculation that the Red Sox have interest in Werth - where he would seem to be a good fit - along with an expected contract demand of Jason Bay level (four years, $66 million, an average of $16.5M per year, signed last off-season), may price the outfielder outside of Colletti's budgetary constraints.

Would Werth be worth that level of contract?  Werth will be entering his age 32 season, a year older than Bay last year, and Bay had nearly 3900 PA of performance to demonstrate his somewhat higher level of performance (career wOBA of .380), rather than the 2500 that Werth has.  Also, prior to 2010, the knock on Werth was his performance against right-hand pitching (unlike Bay), which batters face far more often.  He has shown marked improvement over the last two seasons in this regard, but his 2010 performance was more than .130 higher in OPS compared to his prior career total.  Is that sustainable?

It's also likely that a Werth signing limits the amount of money available for other upgrades and commits the Dodgers to another year of Casey Blake and James Loney as the corner infielders.

What Can Ned Do?

I suspect that a four year contract would be too much for Colletti to consider, but I wonder if Werth and Boras would have their interest piqued by a "Ned Special" two-year contract that allows Werth to pursue free agency again as a 34-year old, while allowing for an OF prospect like Trayvon Robinson or Jerry Sands to knock down the door to Los Angeles.  While a Werth return would make for a nice story, ultimately I believe that market forces, including Bostonian tradewinds, will price Werth into a range that is more than the Dodgers will want to commit to in both years and dollars, and that would hamstring the front office in completing the rest of the roster.

(Thanks to these sources: baseball-reference.com, fangraphs.com, statcorner.com.)

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Dear Ned Colletti

do whatever you have to in order to make this happen. If you have to make sweet love to someone you don’t find attractive, I’m okay with that. If you have to step into a puddle, ruining your leather shoes, do it.

Make Werth a Dodger now!

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

We should have had Josie write the article instead. Now that would have been a fun read.

Just kidding, Dave.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew it was a dry article and tried to punch it up here and there, but I really should have gone to Josie for serious script doctoring.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, we are the first commenters on each other's latest articles

You and me Josie, you and me!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Werth probably helps the Dodgers more than any non Cliff Lee free agent.

Werth almost had his career end because we tried to use a Russian faith healer to diagnose him.

I’m guessing Werth isn’t coming here.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

It would be an incredibly Werth-y signing, but highly unlikely

Let’s just say I’m not getting my hopes up.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Meanwhile fans of death metal andthe Muppets

and hey, who isn’t? will enjoy this fan made video
http://www.metalinjection.net/tv/view/5989/the-muppets-cover-dying-fetus

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

How rich would it have to be for Boras/Werth to sign off on a Ned special?

Manny signed off because there was no interest elsewhere, why would Werth do it?

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

I was optimistically hoping

2/34, but that is probably a pipe dream.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i was thinking 2/36

if he thinks 4/66 is a goal, he has to think what he’ll get on the Ned Special + the contract he gets in years 3 and 4, will be more than 66million dollars.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Dylan H checks in with Russell Martin’s agent::

Martin’s health is one of the factors the Dodgers will consider when deciding whether to retain him. Another is cost. Martin, who earned $5.05 million last season, is eligible for arbitration, meaning he could earn somewhere around $6 million if the Dodgers tender him a contract.
"He loves L.A.," Colleran said. "He’s been part of the Dodger family for a long time. Until he’s told differently, that’s where he expects to be."

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Sounds like Martin and his camp get the feeling that he might be somewhere else.

Most likely non-tender candidate? Not including the sure thing Sherrill.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So he could likely be non-tendered

but still possibly come back to LA? I assume non tendering doesn’t close the door.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

non tendered is when you’re like “Hey baby, we need to talk, I need some space.” and then two hours later you call your gf from the park crying cause you miss her so much, and give her a present.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Non-Tender is the Night

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Only to find out when you go to give her that present

she is already unavailable because she quickly found out that she was desirable to a better clientle.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Have we segued into a discussion

prognosticating G Scott’s future?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

sounded like

irrevocable waivers to me.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

now he’s on the waiver wire, looking to get picked up

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I've on occasion

used the ship and harbor metaphor, but it’s pretty much the same concept.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

crap! It’s a train going into a tunnel.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

funny, even I can see the pic

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

burned, lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You just have to work hard

grit it out, focus on your fundamentals, and you’ll be back in the show in no time.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

If Francouer can do it, i can too!!!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

you just compared yourself

with someone with a really strong right arm….

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That strong right arm

has kept him in the show, must have some use.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

right but

we don’t want to think about how ivdown is gonna get that strong arm…

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I only do curl ups at the gym with my right arm <.< >.>

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

then two hours later you call your gf from the park crying cause you miss her so much, and give her a present.

Done this, like, last night.

It worked, fwiw.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Timing is everything, awesoke

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Breakup sex? Or Get Back Together Sex?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Hey

I don’t want to know
this is not a girls chat site

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

it's a

teens chat site, right? a/s/l????

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't you have some ruddering to do?

your peeps were out of control yesterday

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That's

double ruddering.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

hey peeps

stop doing that thing that Phil doesn’t like.

I’ve done all I can do

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you get an exclusive story from

the team of workers that have to clean up the confetti that falls when the Galaxy score, that has to be murder to sweep up.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

there's a saying at HDC

grass grows by the inch but is ruined by the foot.

The confetti sort of just blows around until it’s swept up during a normal sweep. I mean this is HDC not Angel stadium. Blow confetti there and you have to chase a rat as it carries it away.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice reporting

see, you can discuss something amongst the sex talk and get away from it

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

like how I worked in that jab at Angel stadium, and how gross baseball fans there can be? Half eaten hotdog, lets throw that on the pile of other half eaten things.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I noticed that. Now work on the right cross to follow the jab.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been hearing good things about

hate sex. Not that I’ll ever know.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been hearing good things about sex

not that I’ll ever know

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Signed,

Tommy Blackjack

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

A low blow

but damn if I didn’t laugh heartily.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

low blow

indeed. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2010 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric if Russ made 5 million

last year why does your sidebar have him at 4.5 in 2011? I was kind of on the fence at keeping him between 4 – 5 Million but at six million that just seems to much.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I have $4.5 million for Martin because I think that’s how much he will sign for, after the Dodgers non-tender him.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think there is 0% chance Martin sees the inside of an arbitration hearing in February. Either the Dodgers will work out a deal with him (one or two years, perhaps with incentives), or he’s gone after getting non-tendered.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, that makes sense, I think I was confused

because you have arb next to his name and that meant to me that is what you expected him to make in arbitration.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

if he is non-tendered, re-signed, and plays out the year with us, does Martin have another year of arb left or does he become a free agent?

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Question

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

A player can become an unrestricted free agent only if he has six years of service time at the end of the year.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Just answer the question - Yes or No

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s why Arizona still retains rights to Kelly Johnson even though they signed him as a FA last year.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

and why Kuroda could only be a FA by being not offered arb and non-tendered. :)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I aim to please

and when I can’t please, I aim to splatter.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That's

what I told her.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think everyone but Bills and Kuo will be non-tendered. Will I be wrong? Probably. But if not, at least someone was willing to say it.

by silverwidow on Nov 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Will I be wrong? Probably. But if not, at least someone was willing to say it.

Bill Plaschke has this quote framed on his wall.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That quote

pretty much sums any comment silverwidow has ever made here.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I have been wrong in EACH AND EVERY ONE of my 10,000+ comments.

Get real.

I’m just messing around. I know Loney is being kept around. He’s a Ned Guy.

by silverwidow on Nov 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Good for you. Push back.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's my problem

the term Ned guy is an easy out. Why isn’t Kershaw a Ned guy, heck he was the GM when he was signed, he’s the one who decided when to call him up, he’s the one who dictated how he was used when he was brought up. If anyone in the front office should be congratulated after Logan White for drafting him, it should be Ned.

Is he the greatest GM no, but it is simply not fair to assign the players you don’t like to him and separate the ones you do like to something like they made it despite him.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyway

Kershaw is not a Ned guy because he did not actively acquire him via trade, FA, waiver wire. Also because he’s not an old relief pitcher.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He's not a Ned Guy because

he’s good at baseball and stuff

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Now see that is the kind of stuff that Craig rightfully gets up in arms about

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

DeJon Watson’s predecessor has a hand in there too, doesn’t he?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Kershaw?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, right.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hide your kids, hide your wife

and hide your husbands

‘cause they’re non-tenderin’ everybody out here

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m going to go ahead and say that Werth won’t be a Dodger next year. Bold prediction, I know.

by Mike Dennis on Nov 10, 2010 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Regarding the Gold Gloves

This is from Reds’ beat writer John Fay:

No shock to me about Rolen over Zimmerman. Talked to Dunn about Zimmerman’s throws. He had the bruises to show the inconsistency.

No shock to me that the beat writer is sticking up for the choice of Rolen. But I thought the other comment about the bruises was funny, and I wonder how much of those bruises were Dunn’s fault, and how much were Zimm’s?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

As in… Zimmerman throws a laser across the diamond at Dunn’s chest, and Dunn just misses it and gets plowed?

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm always amazed

when some think you can just stick anyone at 1st base. These guys have wicked arms that are throwing to first base, now add in the pitcher doing throws, the footwork around the bag, it ain’t fools play, you best have some quick hands and quick feet.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not anybody. I couldn’t do it. But yes, I think professional athletes who have played baseball their entire lives can transition to first base.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, Wait! Somewhere my opinion is educated!

Speaking as a clumsy oaf (pitcher) who couldn’t stick at 3B in high school and college, I got moved to first base and it was easy as shit.

Any active MLB player could be moved to 1B TODAY and have it more or less figured out by the time the season starts. There are only a few plays a first baseman makes:

Cutoff throws to home from CF and RF
Bunt plays
Flip the ball to a pitcher covering on a groundball at you

Everything else is standard catching and throwing. And this whole “learn the footwork around the bag” thing is bullshit. Put your throwing hand on the bag and reach. Everyone on the field has done that since they were 6..

Two words to anyone who thinks it’s hard playing a passable first base defense: Mo Vaughn.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha

I missed this on baseball-reference.com yesterday, but Jeff Sullivan of SBNation didn’t.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

It was pretty funny

The statement was a link to the AL SS fielding stats on the site, too.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Dodgers offered Werth a similar deal to the one they gave Andruw Jones (2 years 36 million) could he possibly be had?

I think the Dodgers should jump on that if they can, but I doubt it’s feasible. Jones was coming off a lackluster year and there wasn’t any demand for him. Werth is going to be courted by a lot more teams than the Red Sox, and Boras is not likely to take a short deal even if the annual value is higher. It makes for nice speculation anyway.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Nov 10, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Werth will get 4-5 years at 15 per. Nothing else will work.

by silverwidow on Nov 10, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If he was to do something like that

I’d think he’d want to take his act to an offensive park . He could be beasty in Coors/ Arizona/Fenway but not in LA.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No. Werth is going to get at least Jason Bay money, and he’s going for Matt Holliday money

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Werth

doesn’t quite comp to Bay offensively, and isn’t nearly Holliday’s equal (.400 career wOBA when he signed, 141 OPS+ over his four years prior) offensively. Yes, Werth’s a better defender. He’s gonna get paid, and Boras can ask for the money, but unless Boston is willing to overpay, I agree with silverwidow that $15M per year is about right. (Bay got $16.5M per.)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Bay 2006-2009: 131 OPS+
Jayson Werth 2007-2010: 131 OPS+

Werth is also considered the better defender. But he’s also a year older than when Bay went to FA.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is mostly covered ground

Already stipulated.

Yes, Werth’s a better defender.
Werth will be entering his age 32 season, a year older than Bay last year, and Bay had nearly 3900 PA of performance to demonstrate his somewhat higher level of performance (career wOBA of .380 [Werth’s is .372]), rather than the 2500 that Werth has.
But yes, 4/66 just like Bay wouldn’t be surprising either. Matt Holliday money ($17+M per), and especially length of contract (7 years!), would stun me.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

This guy sounds like he’s going to be a the next hated one batting behind a pocket full of Posey.

From Sickels:

Brandon Belt, 1B, Giants: Hitting .365/.414/.571 in Arizona. I think he’s completely legitimate…he’s surprisingly fast and agile for a big player, and his swing is totally reworked since he was in college. Likely getting a Grade A- for me, and possibly the best first base prospect not named Hosmer.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

It’s a great name for a hitter, too. Fucker.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be a bumpy decade

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If we sign Kershaw and Bills long term

and get Zach Lee into the rotation maybe we can pitch like the Giants too and finally win the World Series.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Nov 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d settle for them NOT winning it. Ever again.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Or

Brandon Wood 2005 Arizona League stats

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at everything else Belt has done. The guy is 100% legit.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He could be

but Aubrey Huff will be signed to a 2 or 3 year deal anyway

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the Giants won’t move Huff around like a rag doll in the outfield.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA voted Jerry Sands the number 1 Dodger prospect. The Giants seem to have a better version of him, and you don’t think he’s good enough?

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

belt Ks less walks more

LHB… supposedly really good athlete for 1st basemen and runs really well… has less power though.. only advantage for sands..

by matthewmafa on Nov 10, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a surprising comment

I do have some Sickels books at home with the same year as BA, shouldn’t take much to see if he nailed some hitters that BA didn’t or if he picked some hitters that BA did not and they failed.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well at least we have #1 prospect Jerry Sands.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt has played at a higher level, had almost the same power, walked more, struck out less and is the same age.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

OOH SHIT

I MEANT to say it is NOW 100% BELT

i wasnt trying to say its not 100% belt… it is belt easily

by matthewmafa on Nov 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, so that’s a nice #1 prospect. But c’mon! Who’s the Giants’ #8 prospect? Is he as good as Allen Webster? Or their #13! Is that guy as good as Jonathan Garcia?!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt

teammate of Kyle Russell’s at Texas for one year. Last Dodger drafted before Belt was Songco, 20 picks (and one round) earlier.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny

the literally two times I saw him play on video (incl the past weekend’s AFL all star game) I wasn’t all that impressed. But uh, small sample size warning applies. I’m sure scouts know a bit more than me.

Be nice if he was disappointing though.

Oh well, might have a few good prospects coming up to help soon, too.

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I would vote for Matt Barkley, but I might be biased. :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

there are no tapes of Barkley being offered money so he has that going for him

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t do it. Not the year that Reggie Bush is stripped of his Heisman.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard your first sentence in Mike Singletary’s voice.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Sports writers being hypocritical? That never happens.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were asking what I would do? :)

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

How would Jim Callis vote?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah my thoght is that nobdy would vite for this guy anymore

yet some guy on espn wants to cause some contravery and say some bs that he will stilll vote for him the same year reggie bush got his stripped

by matthewmafa on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Professionals are not allowed to win the Heisman are they?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You take the small victories when you can

UCLA got a verbal commit from a mid-star DE from Nevada, it was between UCLA and Arkansas and he took the drive West.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Keith should have waited a day for that vacation. Maybe he could have helped out the Razorbacks.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The kid went to see Arkansas beat Vanderbilt

and then came out to UCLA last weekend. He’s LDS so Norm Chow probably helped with the recruiting process.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

“If Forbath makes this 51-yarder, I’m a Bruin. If not, I’m a Razorback.”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure that was it

I know one thing, no one offered him 180K to go to UCLA.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

What is LDS?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Morman

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Church of Latter Day Saints, AKA Mormon.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Lucy in the Diamond Sky?

Larry in Dodger Stadium maybe…

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 11, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Rick Neuheisel even last another year?

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, Frank McCourt is not the AD

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

can’t say he’ll out last Ned but he will be around for a few more years.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

Karl Dorrell lasted five years for God’s sake. I don’t even know the last Bruins coach to get fired after less than five years. Vermiel, Rodgers and Prothro all left for other jobs, IIRC. That gets you back to the early to mid 1960s.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Vermiel and Protho I liked

yet I have zero memory of Rodgers.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Went 8-3 and 9-2 in his last two years

then left for Ga Tech, his alma mater in his hometown. That last team of his was ranked 5th (UPI) and 12th (AP). Some of the that rang bells when I looked it up.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh

im all for crazy out there ideas but thinking this could happen is plain stupid. Theres no way that they pay up for the number one outfielder FA also i’m sure Werth has something against the Dodgers organization for fucking giving up on him. Lets stop talking about this because it’s stupid and not going to happen

by ArborNicer on Nov 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Not exactly the way to make your first comment

to come in here and tell us how to do our fucking jobs.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

besides the last sentence of lets stop talking about this

i think hes right…

werth aint coming to the dodgers for those reasons

by matthewmafa on Nov 10, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well ya, plenty of people agree and have said as much.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but we knew that of all four before we started the exercise. What would you have us write about, Geoff Blum?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I would definitely read a Geoff Blum post in its entirety!

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I can write five pages about that clown

are you sure you want to commit to that?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you could sprinkle in some thoughts on the rest of the available shit pile for a little variety.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

his first sentence is off-base. I, and no commenter, said they thought this could actually happen.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by to comment

Now take the stick out of your fucking ass.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah — the role of uptight negative nelly is taken, my friend!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well maybe

he drinks whiskey instead of gin

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course he realizes

this means war

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Read the whole article

Final paragraph:

While a Werth return would make for a nice story, ultimately I believe that market forces, including Bostonian tradewinds, will price Werth into a range that is more than the Dodgers will want to commit to in both years and dollars, and that would hamstring the front office in completing the rest of the roster.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Or the first paragraph
Part three of our four-part series on highly-desirable free-agent position players that the Los Angeles Dodgers are unlikely to sign this off-season focuses on erstwhile Phillies right fielder Jayson Werth.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

After a month of lurking

that is your first comment? Try reading more that the article title next time.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe if you were a tree this would have worked better.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I just got “marked”.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember the first time I got crapped on

in the comments. I ran over to DT and cried about it. Some ‘girl’ took offense at a comment I made about Nomar which was bloody ironic since I was the only one at TBLA who had ever supported him.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers organization for fucking giving up on him.

This may be the most interesting ungrammatical fuck I’ve ever seen. Is there an and missing?

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Not too many adverbs end in -ing

But fuckly or fuckingly just don’t roll off the tongue or keyboard very well.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers organization for giving up on him in the first place, would have had things like actual meaning

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah!

come one guys, enough with the dodger talk.

whats better, xbox or ps3??? did anyone see Glee last night????

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Phil

I laughed out loud at your “dead thread” comment in the previous comment section. Well played.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Today seems to be bad mood day

Even the even tempered Craig has shown signs of cracking.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

At least we now have an outlet :)

By the way, April 29, 2011 can go fuck itself.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

that is only one day off my anniversary , I thought for a minute we did something to piss you off.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's see

the Dodgers are hosting San Diego. NBA and NHL playoffs will be underway.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There's more

If you dig, you will find the answer.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to assume it is Giant related

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Open Day at Big Phone, nes ci pa? Ring in a box day?

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to one comment

we have one common enemy now. Think along those lines.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it arbor day?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

but I love Arbor Day, I love trees

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to chop down a tree on my way home just because.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for you. Push back.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. White is a trouble maker today

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Without frogs

the human race
will
croak

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I promise that I will work to save the frogs on April 29, 2011.

But every other day of my life: FUCK THOSE FUCKING FROGS. Fuck them right in the hopper.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you really angry about Mr. Kavula?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Universal Pictures releases The Thing?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

WHATTTTT

without John Carpenter??

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't take this the wrong way

but I loved John Carpenters Thing

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

hrm

a prequel that is pretty much the same story and doesnt really seem to fit with the other movie. thanks.

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

It fits perfectly, remember they don’t find the thing in the ice, the norwegians do, its just telling what happened between them digging it out of the ice and making it to the Americans camp. Its going to suck, but at least lets be fair about it.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Prequels with a passion

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wicked

Mr. Musical?

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Call Back

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

For the record

I manage to attend several plays a year. And I did thing Wicked was a good show. And this lyric cracks me up every time:

Don’t be offended by my frank analysis,
Think of it as personality dialysis

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I sent my

Wife and Niece to Wicked
she demanded that I see it
I totally enjoyed it.

She then bought the book because one of her ex students was reading it. Bit of surprise that the first several chapters were full of sex. Wicked indeed, she felt embarrassed because her student had read the book.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure my daughter read the book

before she saw the play. We liked it enough to return for another showing.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure but she was not 10

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No

probably 15. That is a bit much for 10, though I had read my first Penthouse Forum letter by that age.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

right, the Norwegians

it sounded like this movie is about americans? who knows, it just feels like they are trying to be “respectful” to the original by not making it a remake.

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

From a 1st time director too?

Meh, I I am not excited.

I love both the original Thing and the remake, both great.

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

i loved it too!

kurt russell also had an epic beard.

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurt Russell was bad ass for a while

then made the greatest John Wayne tribute movie ever in Big Man in Little China

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Big trouble in little china

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That one

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait

That’s who you were writing about this morning? Sheeet, bro, that’s all you had to say.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I was picturing your groan

when you saw the tweet of my title.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No worries

It was nowhere near the cockpunching profundity of Congratulations Giants or whatever the hell that was :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

on that note

FUCK THE GIANTS

Actually I haven’t been swearing as much about that team in SF lately.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

dude,

I just read your new signature line. haha, and in one case, i am suspicious that the guy is both. :P

by DodgerSF on Nov 10, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Law school sucks. Make Werth a Dodger. That’s all for now.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Who is the most likely call up?

Robinson, Sands, Lindblom, or somebody else?

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

I’d say Lindblom, but depends on the month.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well we are in November

so I’d say the answer is none of above. What the hell kind of question is that on November 10th?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t want to talk about my lack of a sex life and being depressed about that.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and yet, you wrote the words and typed them

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

haha people are getting salty today.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I didn’t want to shoot her, but the gun was loaded and it was pointed at her. so what the hell I had to pull the trigger.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I really hope someone here has seen His Girl Friday, and understands why Phil just reminded me of this movie.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably only

Underdog, Bh, myself, Humma, Yourself, Maddz, and Pure Azure

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I've seen it

but it was a long, long time ago.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You supposed to be first on my list

not sure how you fell off.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

"Meercat, you're wonderful, in a loathsome sort of way."

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So many great quotes.

You’ve got the brain of a pancake. This isn’t just a story you’re covering – it’s a revolution. This is the greatest yarn in journalism since Livingstone discovered Stanley.
It’s the other way around.
Well don’t get technical on my at a time like this!

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

 Take Hitler and stick him on the funny page.

Bruce Baldwin: [Concerning Walter] I like him; he’s got a lot of charm.
Hildy Johnson: Well he comes by it naturally his grandfather was a snake.

Walter Burns: Look, Hildy, I only acted like any husband that didn’t want to see his home broken up.
Hildy Johnson: What home?
Walter Burns: “What home”? Don’t you remember the home I promised you?

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I have seen it

and the not so good Billy Wilder version with Lemmon and Mattheau.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack Lemmon

of course.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Which reverted

to the play’s original title, The Front Page.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Billy Wilder

not so good?! Whaaaaa

I recently saw One, Two, Three. SOOOO good.

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

There was a lot of

Mattheau mugging at the camera and Lemmon is paired up with a young Susan Sarandon that did not seem believable.

But the Hawks version with Grant and Russell had better tension between the leads and Grant is great as a cynical editor

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

A young Susan Sarandon is in it

I believe that is pre Rocky Horror.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well there’s at least a five minute scene where the argument is made that it wasn’t the guy’s fault he shot someone, he was just using the gun for its intended use. I mean that’s what guns do

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This must be important to you. Every word is spelled correctly and the grammar is perfect. ;-)

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Really I'd have put a comma between life, and

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me

but if we want to be picky, after the and, a “my” or an “about” might be better form.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My car is in the shop and the part is not in stock

so Toyota is picking up the rental car tab. The rental place was out of cars and got one from a nearby location, so instead of the cheapest piece of crap they carry I am driving a Mercury Marquis. This is the same car as a Ford Crown Victoria, so I look like an plainclothes cop driving around.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

My Movember Stache

is still sketchy

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I lost that in December. But I got a fresh haircut this w/e, so that’s pretty cop-like.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

True or False?

More than two Dodgers will hit over 20 homers next year.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

True

You can already book Loney or his replacement, Andre, Kemp

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Loney?

Getting a little optimistic I see…

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Girls aren't good at math don't you know

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

oh >2. I misread the prompt. Andre, Werth and Kemp

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If no one responds to mintxcore's comment

this is fantastic placement?

What is math? It’s science.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Science!

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Said in (Thomas) Dolby surround sound!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If you ever find a youtube clip

that is just one of the “Science” shouts instead of the whole video, send me the link. Or a .wav file. That’s what I really wanted to post there.

BTW, did you know that while “Thomas Dolby” is a stage name, the guy that invented Dolby sound actually does have a son named Thomas?

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My head just exploded. Awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It works

bitches

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Actual Baseball Happened

A’s trade Vin Mazarro to the Royals for David DeJesus.

Outfielders that are injured all the time the new inefficiency?

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

Wasn’t Michael Taylor supposed to be good?

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than Brett Wallace.

Jesus what happened there?

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The A's need more outfielders?

Does this mean we can get Raja Davis cheap. Let me see they now have
Coco, Raja, DeJesus, Michael Taylor, Chris Carter

Is Conor Jackson a free agent or under A control?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Under control, but on the 60 day DL.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Jackson is a non-tender candidate and Carter is going to be a DH/1B.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He ain't playing 1st with Barton around

 so Carter is another Cust just younger?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve heard. Getting Cust at age 24 is pretty valuable though.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea I guess, but with more power. Supposedly his OF defense is pretty bad.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So like Jack Cust.

Also remember that there really is only one Jack Cust. The man once walked 143 times.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Travis Buck still exist?

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s still on the 40 man roster.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be shocked if they didn’t try to flip DeJesus.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm now hungry for pancakes

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He could be our next LF

What could Ned offer? How about DeJesus for DeJesus!

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I like David DeJesus

to bad they moved him from CF to LF. He’s a good little player.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i expect them to want position players ready to contend. Assuming they sign the samurai they just won the bid on, I expect them to try to flip a starting pitcher and an outfielder for a non-outfield/1B MLB position player.

Just guessing: Rajai Davis and Gio Gonzalez for Dan Uggla.

By flip him, I meant at the trade deadline if he’s healthy.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Beane won't pay for Uggla

Uggla is going to regret turning down this deal. Just because he turned down the deal the baseball gods will make sure he never hits 30 bombs again.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Like he didn’t pay for Holliday or Sheets?

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

One year deal for Sheets

and 1/2 rental for Holliday. Are you suggesting that Beane would trade for Uggla as a rental? They do have Mark Ellis for 2011 they don’t need a rental. Not like they have Theriot playing 2nd base.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Bean would trade for him just to pick up the two picks he can get.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure. But he always had the two picks in his pocket. Just because he didn’t use them didn’t mean he didn’t think about it. He didn’t trade Holiday below his value.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

but not be giving up Gio Gonzalez, that is going backwards. Or am I giving to much credit to the man who traded for Holliday?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

They need a 3B, and a better offense, and can plug Uggla’s 10mil into Sheet’s payroll spot from last year, and if it doesn’t work out, trade him with DeJesus to the Dodgers for whatever he wants.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

I want both De Jesuses playing for the Dodgers at the same time as the Five Cabreras.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A trade was made

A’s Acquire DeJesus For Mazzaro, Marks
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 10, 2010 at 5:38pm CST]
The A’s acquired David DeJesus from the Royals for right-hander Vin Mazzaro and left-hander Justin Marks, the teams announced today.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

really want to get us back to baseball doncha ; )

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Paving the way

for the Ethier or Kemp for Greinke trade!

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

we couldn’t match this deal? we need a LFer, DeJesus is a solid one. Ely + one of the lower pitching prospects that we have so much of. that’s a package i think Royals might’ve preferred to Mazzaro, Marks, no?

by joakcbasse on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The only team that wants John Ely is the Dodgers.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the Hiroshima Carp?

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i know we think lowly of Ely, but i think other teams would look at that Elymania stretch and see if there was anything to it.

i mean, Mazzaro sucks. Ely can’t suck worse, can he?

by joakcbasse on Nov 10, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

But for one month it was Glorious

did everyone already forget the SI cover?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

once the league figured him out.

Factor in the 4 mph difference on their fastballs, and it’s a no-brainer.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Mazzaro

had a 97 ERA+ last year and is going into his age-24 season.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Mazzaro is younger, has had a bit more success

and scouts liked him better.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

And he's from Jersey

Jersey is so hot right now. Like Hansel.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That Hansel is so hot right now

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like to have it put on the record, that a shirtless man appeared on TBLA, and it was not my doing

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

duly noted

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I win

there is entirely too much half naked man on this blog now.

Quick, someone post Keith’s avatar

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

dude

thats his daughter!

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

except your picture got the red x blue ? treatment, you nincompoop

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Love that name

my Dad used that on us when he was irritated with something we did but not really mad.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

weird

it shows up on mine. usually if it gets X’d it’ll show the X on my end too.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe it’s just blue ? then, did you offend the mac god somehow?

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never said a bad word about Mark.

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

lmao

“Look, it’s Hansel; he’s so hot right now.”

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Mazzaro’s major league peripherals are horrible, tho.

but i guess i’m not giving enough credit to other major league GMs if i thought they’d consider Ely over Mazzaro.

by joakcbasse on Nov 10, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Ken Arneson tweets on the A's trade
Like Holliday, DeJesus a 1-yr rental. But this is less costly. CarGo/Street had allstar potential. Mazzaro/Marks don’t.
Suspect A’s traded Mazzaro for same reason they dumped Sean Gallagher: the sense that he’s million dollar arm, 10-cent head.
Sex Appeal Over Replacement: A’s SOAR exploiting their latest market inefficiency discovery.

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Also:
Is there a rule that good KC outfielders can’t leave without passing through Oakland first?

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by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran

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by G.Scott on Nov 10, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

A player I want the Dodgers to sign.

Brian Bannister. A low risk, medium upside signing.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

Brian Bannister:Stat dorks::Willie Bloomquist:Plaschkes

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Man the A's have a nice young rotation

Cahill 22
Gio Gonzalez – 24
Brett Anderson – 22
Braden – 26
and they just traded the worst of the lot who was 23.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

And they won the bid for Iwakuma.

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the A's

are worried about losing the other ten people who go to their games

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry. In two years the Dodgers will have:

Kershaw – 24
Billingsley – 27
Z. Lee – 21
Rubby – 23

by BFDC on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The prospect voting is petering out

since this is number 14 should we cap it at 15? Seems like a dozen people could get votes going forward.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 10, 2010 4:23 PM PST reply actions  

I rather it go to 20.

Or we do one last vote where people rank the rest of their pick to 20 and get the list that way.

by Tripon on Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ack

I might have to put effort into it again, it was easy when I could just vote for the same guy for a few rounds.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I know i'm a little late to reply here

but I kind of like Humma’s idea where everyone ranks the players from 1 to 3 or whatever and then using a point system we can determine the final few spots. I was going to do it for the final three, which would make for 4 more votes total (#15, #16, #17, and then the final vote). seems like could work and then it would be finished by mid next week.

by Brandon Lennox on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

  1. is tied at the moment: 8 votes for Russell, 8 for Elbert.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Pound Fail

that should say Number 14 is tied.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

AHHH MY EYEZ

THE GOGGLES, ZHEY DO NOTHING!!!!!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This line up costs too much?

6 Furcal
4 Hudson
9 Werth
3 Victor Martinez
7 Ethier
8 Kemp
5 Beltre
2 Buck
1 Lee

by 68elcamino427 on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

Yes. Hell, THIS lineup costs too much:

6 bhsportsguy
4 delias man
9 Eric Stephen
3 meercatjohn
7 David Young
8 Michael White
5 Brandon Lennox
2 Josie Becker
1 Maddz

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

tripon and i

left off because we are unemployed. right? RIGHT?? ;D

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

and because

I had to make room for the all-girl battery.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz likes to pitch?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

that really only works with two blokes. With two skirts it more like competitive typing

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

So someone is the typewriter?

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

competitive braille reading maybe?

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

nah because mechanical devices are involved

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

nah because mechanical devices are involved

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

OTOH, consider accoutrements in the equation.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Add a Humma at DH

and that is a helluva table at a bar!

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

oh please. “designated hitter?” i can’t hit anything to save my life.

except bride of kavula — hey now!!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I like

that Josie is a bad ass catcher.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

And I see

what you did with Phil there.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I considered leaving him off of the lineup, and when people asked where he was, I’d say, “Coaching first base, of course.”

But I wasn’t sure how strong that callback would be.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in no shape to play SS or

lead off.

I can be the official scorekeeper.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not budging from 4/66

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

For an aging left fielder?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Daveywood!

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Grow out your dreads

and we’ll talk.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

I am sads.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, don’t feel bad: somebody’s gotta be the dude who goes into the stands and rounds up tail for the players.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If we have to rely on IVdown for that, we might be high and dry for a good long while.

And does the battery refer to it as “tail”?

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Worked for Jason Phillips.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Eff that

I counter with our lineup

5 Julio Nievas
2 Humma Kavula
3 Silverwidow
9 UCLADodger32
8 G. Scott
7 kinbote
4 BFDC
6 Ivdown
1 Regfairfield

We’ll take you pansys anyday

by Julio Nievas on Nov 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call sticking the lefty in the pitchers spot.

by regfairfield on Nov 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

you obviously

didn’t see my ability to get on base at the DT Wiffleball game. 1.000 OBP!!!

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I should waive Ivdown, who wants their short stop hitting 8th? Hell, can you field ground ball?

by Julio Nievas on Nov 10, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck you I was about to say that, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m Dick Stuart with the glove
I’m Alex Cora with the bat
I’m Mantle with the booze
and I’m Berra with the ladies

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You misspelled Stewart. Dick is fine. Kemp’s agent won’t like it if you misspell his last name.

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by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

If you want me to be your team's Jayson Werth :P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Irrelevant

I already do. lol

If only I could grow such an epically terrible homeless beard…if only…

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

As far as you and facial hair goes

I picture you either as not able to grow facial hair or looking like Joe Dirte where it only grows in certain spots.

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by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Not with that gin-soaked out machine in the two-spot.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll be the Mantle of that team!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing Mantle and I have in common is a BAC approaching .400.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Putting me at catcher? Eric “The Rabbit” Stephen will run wild on me.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to make Vlad in Game 1 of the World Series look like Roberto Clemente in RF

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Third Base

Hell yeah! Back to the old days. I’ll be a Matt Kemp-esque 8th hitter ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I am going to guess

that Ivdown has never kept score at a baseball game.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

think of this year’s Galaxy team like the ’08-09 Lakers

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

So the 2011 Galaxy will go undefeated? :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh he's fine

he was just cleated, but anyone who’s been cleated knows it takes a while to shake off

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Were you on that conference call today

I get what Arena and Donovan are saying but when you only have 3 playoff games and you can play two of them at home if you win the Regular Season, what other bonuses should you get?

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I was

were you too? Or who decided that was worth writing about?

It comes down to opponents, as it’s written right now, it’s better to be top dog in a weak conference as far as making the title game goes.

What people want is the EPL but with playoffs, and what we have is the NFL but with a regular season champion.

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

On the nose

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just gonna go sit in the corner and be quiet for a while…

Numbers clearly arent my strong suit, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm the Dave Hansen of this lineup

I sit on the bench and then will come in and get a clutch hit.

And then coach all you ugly mugs.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 10, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m taking my talents to Mexico.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

based on the names in that lineup

I don’t feel upset in the slightest that I was excluded. That’s a power-packed lineup of bloggers.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

heh
didn’t see that one, been in Chicago for the last three weeks, all work – no play …

by 68elcamino427 on Nov 10, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Sad news

Mariners’ announcer Dave Niehaus (“Swung on and BELTED,” “get out the rye bread grandma, it’s grand salami time!”) has passed away

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

Damn

loved his voice in Ken Griffey Junior baseball

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I type his name into the google search line

and meant to click news, but pushed the mouse too far and clicked maps. It showed me Safeco Field.

(If you try that with Vin, it shows the greater Los Angeles area.)

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Wikipedia already updated.

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

I know right, it’s like Wikipedia is way too easy to edit and thus not credible as an academic source

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

CCCP – nice.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Aww

I was hoping for a

In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia tells you when you are going to die.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Its always that way

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I looked when I got Eric's retweet

and it wasn’t yet. I considered doing the update, but had no source to cite yet.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Larry Stone is a Mariners beat writer. Not weak like Ukraine!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sourcing a tweet

is weak, even for wikipedia!

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think if he posted a story about it, that would be fine.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just musing

on the fact that Larry Stone the person carries to weight, but his news outlet does, so it’s like he the author doesn’t exist but obviously he does and can still say things as Larry Stone, but they aren’t official until he is the newspaper

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia Britain, Stone carries weight — about 12 pounds.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

D’oh, it’s 14 pounds, isn’t it.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

yep.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 10, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

/zing!

Fact, I would have made a better Hermione than Emma Stone

by Josie Becker on Nov 10, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Downright dirty lie

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm confoozeled

What’s the Emma Stone – Hermione connection?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I am still confused

are the lie statements about whether or not Josie could be Emma Stone or a fictional character.

Tread carefully my friends.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Emma Watson as Hermione, I could imagine no one else as her. That’s all it means.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought about that after I said something, and I couldn’t remember her name but I thought Stone was wrong as well, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

In a strange way

I think as the series has gone on, Daniel Radcliffe has grown into the role of Harry Potter but Emma Watson really nailed it in the first 3.5 films, she has been just fine in the last 2.5. It could be that is a product of the books giving more depth (and more losses) to Harry Potter’s character. Unfortunately, Ron’s character has always been a third wheel and the fact that for probably a good portion of the first film he will be out of sight, you won’t miss him.

Hemoine’s character has a chance to expand since there is a lot of the first part of book (while really only 2 chapters I think) where she and Harry will be on screen doing a lot of stuff.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

where she and Harry will be on screen doing a lot of stuff.

I’d see THAT movie… ;D

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

nolander wishes it had happened sooner.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Emma Watson will be 21

next year, Emma Stone is 22.

I feel dirty just typing that.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm as old as Emma Watson

It’s a perfect match…right? :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree with you, but I've always really liked all 3 characters

Though my favorite is Ron.

I think they’ve done a much better job getting Ron more screen time, because I think he’s a good actor for the role.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Really
Yeah I agree with you, but I’ve always really liked all 3 characters
Though my favorite is Ron.

That is interesting

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m sure that’s not a popular choice, but the books and the movie has just made him incredibly likable to me. He’s the sometimes underappreciated best friend who is there for you just about every single time and is dependable. I think I like him because I’m like his character, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he is better charactarized

in the books, while in the movies he ends up shoved to the back sometimes.

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

For breaking news, I think it would be fine to use Stone’s tweet as a source. But for a more archival site like Wikipedia, I think a link to the full story / obit would be more appropriate.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They will update it when it becomes available

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He is credible

but the reference should be to something less temporal than a tweet, like a story that will (likely) be archived.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You are probably referring

to the mention of a certain pitcher, but this also caught my eye:

Niehaus apologized early in the speech for anyone he would forget to thank. And sure enough … he was kicking himself afterward for one omission.

“I forgot Ken Levine, for crying out loud,” Niehaus said of his 1992 partner. “I thought of that the minute I stepped off stage. He’s a great guy, one of my champions for getting here.”

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

I was referring to Ken Levine

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

there ya go.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Granny, get out the rye bread because this one's a salami!

The great thing when you google that phrase, you get a Griddle article

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I am bringing in

Bluebleeder (if I can find him) and Hollywood Joe to pitch and play 3B (5 in your scorebook)

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Something I didn't use in the article

Jayson Werth has some pretty impressive athletic bloodlines. His father, Jeff Gowan played minor-league baseball and NCAA football. His mother, Kim Schofield Werth, competed in the U.S. Olympic Trials in the long jump and 100 meters. His grandfather is Dick “Ducky” Schofield who had a long major league career. His uncle is former Angel – and briefly a Dodger – Dick Schofield, and his stepfather Dennis Werth had a few major-league cups of coffee. Two of his three siblings have been NCAA scholarship athletes.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:41 PM PST reply actions  

Jayson's Mom

from last year, rocking a UCLA sweatshirt (one of Jayson’s sisters was a track athlete there). She must be in her 50s.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You can say that again.

by Alex41592 on Nov 10, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently

Orestes Destrade had quite the “crush” on her when this clip was shown on Baseball Tonight.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that deserved to be green

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The important part is at the end

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I got that part.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Former
Dodger
And
Hopefully
Future
Dodger
Out
Fielder’s

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s so obvious now that you point it out! I don’t know how I didn’t get it before!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah totally obvious....

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

His sister was a track athlete at UCLA. She was super athletic, but got hurt a bunch.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 10, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And here I was ready to tell G. Scott

to save his money from his SF trip and head to Camelback Ranch next Spring.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

Doing that as well, but only to get a look at jayson werth’s mom in Dodger garb.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Are the Royals serious about trading Zack Greinke? Well, they’re serious about listening. But according to clubs that have spoken with them, they’re telling bidders up front that (A) they would need to “win” the deal, (B) they would have to get the kind of four-for-one haul the Rangers got for Mark Teixeira to pull the trigger, © they need a bunch of “front-line, winning, quality players” in return, and (D) at least one of those players has to be a pitcher capable of turning into the next Zack Greinke in a couple of years.

Clubs that checked in on Greinke have also come away with the impression he wouldn’t approve a deal to ANY major-market East Coast team (Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Mets). But an official of one team says Greinke “would at least think about the L.A. clubs” if the Dodgers or Angels were to wade into this mix.

Link

Basically, no one is getting Greinke.

by Julio Nievas on Nov 10, 2010 6:55 PM PST reply actions  

Is Zach Greinke overrated?

Sure, he had the one ridiculously killer year when he won the Cy Young – a 205 ERA+ !! – but is he truly a stud, or a guy with one huge season? Last year, when you look across his peripherals, he regressed to the levels he was at before, around 7.5 K/9 (2.0 less than his ‘09 peak), around 2.5 BB/9, 9.0 H/9 (7.7 in ’09), and a more reasonable HR rate (he led the league in 2009 in HR rate, a low 0.4 per 9 IP). His career ERA+ of 116 is exactly the same as Chad Billingsley’s. He’s a good, a very good pitcher, maybe a solid #2 from here on out, but maybe not someone you empty the cupboards for.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s been said that Grienke was pitching kind of indifferently this season. The constant losing in KC is supposedly getting to him and it’s apparently affecting his performance on the mound.

This is just what I’ve seen floating around the internet. I have no idea how true it is, but I think Grienke would definitely benefit from a change of scenery regardless. Kansas City is a baseball graveyard.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Nov 10, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm predicting it now

Kyle Russell will never play a meaningful inning in the major leagues.

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by David Young on Nov 10, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hey! I was looking for something to add on my sig, thanks!

kidding

by Julio Nievas on Nov 10, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You're a freaking jerk!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

a not so bold prediction
and he’s not the only one …

by 68elcamino427 on Nov 10, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

what constitutes a meaningful inning?

anything before Sept? Because I’ll take that bet. I think that is a gimme

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 10, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

As much as I don’t like Russell, he’ll probably get “oh no all are outfielders are hurt and Kyle Russell is the only guy on the 40 man” time.

by regfairfield on Nov 11, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I really think this is a gimme, hardly anyone who has hit AA like that never gets a shot.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 11, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry if I've asked this before

but what are good sections to sit in at Dodger Stadium for a family?

by OB12 on Nov 10, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

behind home plate!

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, but I am looking for something that is not going to break me.

by OB12 on Nov 10, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I

Would say Infield Reserve Sections 1-8.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 10, 2010 7:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for the input. I may make it out to LA for the first time next season, so I am hoping to take in a game or two.

by OB12 on Nov 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Top Deck Is the Best

Cheapest seats so you don’t spend too much on kid’s seats and you are still right above the infield.

Infield reserve is good, but you need to get a special so you can get cheaper other tickets, otherwise they are kind of expensive for what you get.

Lodge infield is the best if you don’t worry about money.

I wouldn’t go down to the field, a lot of harsh angles and it would be hard to see for small kids, unless you are next to the owners box or right behind home plate.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 10, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you still see from the Top Deck? Thanks, this is good to know since I have never been before.

by OB12 on Nov 10, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya. Deck isn’t bad at all. The bleachers suck (no backs on the bench) but the top deck has good lines of sight.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool, I am looking at one of the final ST games at DS. Both Top Deck and Reserve level seats are available. I’ll have to decide what I want to do.

by OB12 on Nov 10, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah,

the bleachers are good if you are working on a sociology project or if you really really like the left or right fielder, but oddly, they are still better seats than the field level past the foul pole.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 11, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

If you can get the first few rows, it is quite good vantage, all of the top deck is in the infield. It is high, but you can still see the action quite well. I can tell inside and outside pitches most of the time.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 11, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd go Loge between the bases

unless your kids are under four. Over four they will be more into the game if they are closer, under four they won’t care and then I’d go infield reserve between the bases rows 1 – 8 as Craig said. I would not go Top Deck for your first game, yes you get good sight lines but you are incredibly high up. It is called Top Deck for a reason. Stay far away from the Pavillion or the corner Loge area’s for your first game. Use Ebay or Stubhub or Craigslist, do not buy from Ticketmaster. Also check with this site, we have quite a few season ticket holders who would probably give you a good deal. No need to buy your tickets a head of time.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 10, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Donald Sterling hire Vinny Del Negro bc he was the cheapest coach available?

I fail to see what Del Negro did with the Bulls that would warrant wanting to hire him for the Clippers.

Clippers are on their way to 1-8.

Maybe Phil will devote a post to each win they get this season?

Sorry- Phil.

by Joey Joe on Nov 10, 2010 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

1. Every game this season has been against a playoff team from last year except for Golden State and last I looked they are off to a great start.
2. They are playing three rookies over 20 minutes a game including a point guard due to injuries
3. Their best player missed the last two games
4 Their gazillion Million dollar point guard has missed most of the season.
5. How any of this is VND’d fault I fail to see. He may end up being just another Clipper coaching failure but he can’t take any of the blame for this 1 – 8 start and I’d sure as hell like to give him more then 9 games before dumping on him.
6. At times the Clippers are playing five men 22 years and younger. Current expectations should be muted for a team that young, but that doesn’t mean future expectations should be.
7. Given the circumstances as a CLipper fan we are not bummed about this 1 – 8 start . We are excited about the play of rookies Bledsoe, Griffin, and even Farouq, along with continued development of Eric Gordon, and to a lesser extent DeAndre Jordan.

It is possible that a Clipper fan may never see the five best players on the team ever healthy at the same time.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 10, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Bold prediction

Clippers will have an over-.500 second half.

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, I'm Good with Werth

Add Lee, cut Ned loose to go after a few of his Ned specials to fill out the rest of the roster and let us at ’em.

Sounds like a plan to me.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 10, 2010 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hey

I feel guilty for acting like a jackass earlier and came here to apologize really quick. You guys are the best and mean a lot to me. At the same, it’s probably best if I take a little break and maybe come back with an original thought or two. Take care.

by silverwidow on Nov 10, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

That’s not pushing back.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why Silverwidow is like 4down with the ladies ;P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

If we where required to post original thoughts

I would be fucked. I don’t think you where being a jackass, for what its worth.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

If we all had to post original thoughts I think we’d all be fucked here, we’re all just a bunch of TBLA sheep :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say that! (We were the Originals but had to change our names to the New Originals.)

by kinbote on Nov 10, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m considering changing my name to OG.Scott

Toasters don't toast toast. Toast toasts toast.

by G.Scott on Nov 11, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

But then who’s gonna replace you in the batting order?!?!? You’re the #3 hitter!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Homer Simpson

“It’s called playing the percentages”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The things managers do to win ballgames!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 10, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Burns

said that

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 11, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

It's alright dude, I'm sure no one even remembers really what you are talking about

You should watch Psych tonight to cheer up :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If there’s one thing I learned from blogging is that I never take a “negative” comment seriously. If I’m arguing with someone here, I treat it as if I’m having a real conversation in person. I mean, a person may sound like a jerk online, but its a whole different matter in person…

by Julio Nievas on Nov 10, 2010 9:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’ll wait until others weigh in.

by kinbote on Nov 10, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm impressionable

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm confused

What’s going on?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Damnit camino

you are scaring the children!

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 10, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

What I learned from the CMA awards this evening
life is not about the breaths you take but the things that take your breath away

 

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 10, 2010 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

You watched Hitch didn't ya?

Tsk tsk

"Marriage is the leading cause of divorce"

by angelofdeath on Nov 10, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. And if you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.

by Michael White on Nov 10, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Please stop

"Marriage is the leading cause of divorce"

by angelofdeath on Nov 10, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we ban mintxcore from having an open opinion on movies?

lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 10, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OK I GET IT

i know I’m a snob but snobs are people too!!!!!

by mintxcore on Nov 10, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hitch is an above average

romantic comedy, so I would say no. Its certainly no Catherine Hag-le movie.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 11, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

Dance like no one is watching, love like you’ll never be hurt, die young and leave a good-looking corpse. That’s how it goes, right?

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by Pure Azure on Nov 11, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions  

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