Dodgers 2011 #16 Prospect Chat
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 12, 2010 9:36 AM PST
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PrintScott Elbert was able to accumulate enough votes to capture 15th spot in TBLA’s prospect list. At one time he was one of the top 100 prospects in all of baseball according to Baseball America, but now the lefty reliever was barely able to make it into the top 15 prospects in his own organization. Ralston Cash, Leon Landry, and Javier Solano all also received a decent amount of support in this poll. Refer to the left sidebar of the website for the TBLA ranking thus far.
When you look at the remaining names, you’ll notice that there are still several good prospects left to fill the final 5 spots. Without spending too much time looking at the prospects in other organizations, I’d say that while we may not have any top 10 prospects when you look at baseball as a whole, our system is pretty deep.
I’m going to add Shawn Tolleson this round because he received a decent amount of support in the polls I included in my minor league seasons in review. I’m also going to add Mario Songco because I’ve seen a few requests for him to be included. In regards to future votes, we are going to continue with the normal voting for number’s 16 and 17, but then for #’s 18 – 20 we are going to have one final vote in which the members will rank their top 3 remaining prospects. We will then determine the final 3 spots using a point system. That way, we will be able to finish out our TBLA top 20 by next week.
To make it obvious for those not reading the whole article, Click Here To Vote.
As always, use this thread to talk about the voting and other things, and only use the other Fanpost to submit your votes.
The round 16 candidates (ages as of 2011 opening day):
Nathan Eovaldi (21 years old) RHP – Throws gas, but has never recorded particularly high strikeout numbers. According to Charlie Hough, the low strikeout totals are due his poor command. Had a mediocre season in 2010, and was limited due to a mid season oblique strain. He is still being groomed as a starter, although it has been rumored that consistency with his breaking pitches will determine his future role.
Brian Cavazos–Galvez (23 years old) OF – After an outstanding 2009 season, BCG got off to an extremely slow start with the Great Lakes Loons. By the time 2010 season was over, however, Cavazos-Galvez had put together one of the best all around seasons of any Dodger minor leaguer. He hit .318, smacked 18 homers, stole 43 bases, and drove in 77 runs. The negatives about BCG are that he was a little bit old for LoA, and that he isn’t a very strong outfield defender.
Matt Magill (21 years old) RHP – Magill surprised a lot of people with his great 2010 season, and even led the minor leagues with a .194 opponents’ batting average. Also had a 3.28 ERA, a 1.10 WHIP, and had 9.6 strikeouts per 9 innings as a 20 year old. Some scouts describe his stuff as fringy, although throws in the low 90’s and has a slider that was too much for the Midwest League hitters.
Ralston Cash (19.5 years old) RHP – 2nd round pick in the 2010 draft had a solid debut in the Arizona Rookie League. His fastball hits 94 but sits in the lower 90’s with some movement, and he has two other potentially above average pitches (curveball and changeup).
Joc Pederson (18.75 years old) OF – The Dodgers went way over slot to sign their 11th round pick in the 2010 draft because they loved his athleticism. While he has 5 tool potential, none of the 5 tools have a particularly high ceiling. He only had 12 plate appearances for the Arizona Dodgers.
James Baldwin (19.5 years old) OF – The son of the former major league pitcher, Baldwin is an exciting young player due to his speed and athleticism. He initially struggled in his professional debut, but then made adjustments and was very good for the final month of the 2010 season. He is still very raw, but some scouts believe he has the potential to one day become a 5 tool prospect.
Jake Lemmerman (21 years old) SS – After a monster season with the Raptors this past year, Lemmerman was named as the Pioneer League MVP. In 259 at bats, Late Night had a .363 average, a 1.044 OPS, 12 homers, and 47 RBI’s. He also did all this while playing the premium position of shortstop, and coming out of college he was described as a solid defender at the position.
Leon Landry (21 years old) OF – The Dodgers 3rd round pick in the 2010 draft, Landry had a great professional debut with a .349 average and a .909 OPS. He drew comparisons to Andres Torres from the Ogden Raptors radio announcer, who also described him as a gap hitter. However, Baseball America says he could top out with a .280 and 15 homers per year. He covers a lot of ground in the outfield, although he has a below average arm.
Javier Solano (21 years old) RHP – Solano came out of nowhere in 2010 with an outstanding season. He played both in HiA and AA, and was the youngest player on both of those teams, yet had a combined ERA under 3, a WHIP of 1.10, stuck out over 10 batters per 9 innings. Solano has a low 90’s fastball, a cutter, a curve, and a changeup, but the downside is that he is barely 6 feet tall.
Jon Link (27 years old) RHP – Link was called up by the Dodgers 6 different times during the 2010 season, but was used sparingly to the tune of just 8.2 innings. In 60.2 innings in AAA, Link did very well considering his home park, posting a 3.71 ERA and a 3.55 FIP. He seems to be a viable option for the Dodgers 2011 bullpen, and while his ceiling isn’t very high, he could be a solid arm for this organization.
Travis Schlichting (26.25 years old) RHP – The converted infielder had a unique season in 2010 because he performed better in the big leagues than he did in the minors. In 47.1 AAA innings, Schlichting had a 4.75 ERA and a .294 batting average against, but in his 22.2 innings with the Dodgers he had a 3.57 ERA and a .233 batting average against. While Schlichting has never had a high strikeout rate, his composure in the Dodgers bullpen over the past two seasons demonstrates to me that he can be a valuable option out of the Dodgers bullpen for years to come.
Josh Lindblom (23.75 years old) RHP – Lindblom has been moved back and forth between starter and reliever throughout his minor league career, which produced negative results in 2010. Going forward, he will be strictly a reliever, which is definitely the best role for him. While his velocity was lower last season, he generally sits in the low to mid 90’s out of the bullpen, and also has a hard curveball. Finally, while he’s been in big league camp for the last couple of seasons, the one thing to remember about Lindblom is that he is still just 23 years old.
Greg Wilborn (23 years old) LHP – Wilborn started off the 2010 season by dominating the Pioneer League, then was promoted up to the Great Lakes Loons and continued to thrive. His most impressive stat in 2010 was his very strong strikeout rate, which is rare for a starting pitcher. While he was a little older than most of his prospect teammates in both leagues, he still had a great season. Finally, the lefty features a slider, curveball, and changeup, and can get his fastball up to 94 mph.
Blake Smith (23.25 years old) OF – Blake Smith was a huge disappointment in 2009 as the Dodgers 2nd round pick, however he rebounded nicely in 2010. In his first full pro season, Smith led the Loons with 19 homers and hit a respectable .281 at the plate. His strikeout rate was a little high at 27.4%, but he is also pretty inexperienced as a hitter so hopefully that will improve. A former pitcher, he also has a very strong arm in the outfield and recorded 11 assists in 2010.
Shawn Tolleson (23 years old) RHP – Had absolutely ridiculous stats in the hitter friendly Pioneer League, posting a 0.63 ERA, a 0.77 WHIP, and striking out over 12 batters per 9 innings. However he was a 22 year old playing in a Rookie League and only has 28.2 innings professional innings under his belt. He has an excellent cutter, which is his out pitch.
Mario Songco (22.5 years old) OF – Songco isn’t a very big guy, but is known for his occasional huge power. He smacked 15 homers in 2010, but a slump at the end of the season caused his year end average to fall to .274. He makes good contact for a power hitter (K’d in 16% of plate appearances in 2010), but his defensive position is probably limited to left field.
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Eating puppies should be against the law
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Cute animals taste better than ugly animals.
It’s science.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
mmmmmmmmmmmm
science
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
But my tuna is dolphin-safe
If I go to Japan, I could do the tuna/dolphin Pepsi challenge, except that I’d never eat dolphin because 1. they are pretty much my fave creatures 2. they are toxic
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"fast food"
When I think of fast food I think McDonalds or burger king, not f’ing panera bread. Thats like medium speed food. I will not be impressed till they add a drive thru.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Best Buys Black Friday add leaked
and I can now safely say that black friday is going to be a very big meh again this year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Link???
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Thanks
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"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
And as I am looking on there now
The only 32 inch samsung is 720 p for 329…
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
heh
you plan on getting there at 3am? Those tv deals go faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
voted for Baldwin
I like the toolsy tool potential of this (hopefully) non-tool. I also prefer not to vote for middle relievers who might be middling. I’m keen on Landry and Lemmy Late Night too, but Baldwin seems to have a higher ceiling. I like ceilings.
I guess I should’ve posted this under the Dunn article earlier in the week, but I wonder how history would’ve played out if Manny ended up signing with the Giants in early 09 and we landed Dunn instead. You could argue that the 09 team would’ve been just as good since Manny got suspended and really wasn’t a big factor after coming back, and we could’ve been in the thick of things this year.
And the Giants would’ve still had the logjam in the OF with Manny being hurt in 2010, but do they take the extra step of signing Ross? It could have blocked them from making the moves to squeak into the playoffs. Aaaaargh.
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There
Was no chance that (1) Manny would have signed with the Giants and (2) the Dodgers would have signed Dunn.
Also the myth of Manny not being important to the Dodgers winning in 2009 should not be encouraged.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 12, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I understand
hence the word “wonder” how it would’ve played out. We’re just fans after all, so I see no harm in playing the what-if game, even if the Dodgers weren’t interested in Dunn. There’s a good chance they won’t sign any of the four free agents highlighted this week on TBLA, but it doesn’t mean it’s not fun to speculate.
Also, while Manny was important to their excellent start, his performance was mediocre off the PEDs, so it is debatable, I think.
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his performance was mediocreoff the PEDsafter taking a fastball on the hand …
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Fine
it’s green now. Fair enough. Though PEDs do help you recover from injury.
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Yovani Gallardo
Had no idea he was such a good hitter.
And OT
Don’t like calling attention to any Celtics, but Pierce is funny:
tweeting “It’s been a pleasure to bring my talents to south beach now on to Memphis”
damn ops of 800+
4 homers
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I’m pretty sure I’ve read quite a lot about Cavazos–Galvez over the year, but no one seems to like him? If he started the season poorly, he must have done extremely well in the second half to end up with the figures he did. Is no one impressed? Is 23 too old for class A?
that
and he hardly ever walks.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
When your drafted at age 22
you have no choice but to be 23 in A ball.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
No kidding
that is some fast work on his part.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Being 22 is the problem in the first place. College ball in my eyes is supposed to supplant the need for the low minors, but that only happens to the best prospects. You go to college, do the full 4 years, and you’re basically behind and trying to play catch up to guys who were drafted in high school and had a 4 year head start ahead of them.
Sure it is
which is why guys coming out of college who only played Rookie ball still have a lot of things to prove. That is why Landry, Lemmerman had more proving to do. What we do know about BCG is that many prospects have hit the MWL and died, he didn’t so he’s still alive. I have more faith in a guy 23 in the MWL who pounded the league only one year removed from college then a guy 23 in the MWL who has been stuck in neutral for 2/3/4 years. BCG still has a chance.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Scouts don't think
he will hit advanced pitching, as they exploit his long swing and lack of plate discipline. He will have to prove the doubters wrong, because that plate discipline is as big a red herring has Kyle Russells contact rate. Alfredo Silverio was very much like BCG, and he struggled in the Cal League until August.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
from Olney
Rival teams believe the Rays are willing to trade B.J. Upton. What’s more, Tampa Bay wouldn’t have to be overwhelmed to agree to a deal.
I know this was popular at the trade deadline.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 10:30 AM PST reply actions
I was just about to post that here too!
I know my curiosity has been piqued. I like the idea of not having to overwhelm them, though am scared by idea of Ned dealing with Tampa Bay again.
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That
Julio Lugosi deal turned out fine
by bhsportsguy on Nov 12, 2010 10:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks to Boston
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Beats Bela!
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I would love to get Upton. Could we do Loney and a prospect for Upton? Sign Dunn and Nishioka and I think the offense is complete.
The Rays have Desmond Jennings to take over CF, and they need a LF. They also aren’t afraid to play prospects. The Rays are also rumored to shopping Barlett too.
Don’t disagree with anything you said there, but they aren’t going to get a huge prospect haul for BJ Upton. He’s almost in the Loney category right now except that he’s an outfielder.
Except that he is a CF
he plays awesome defense, which is far more valuable then a first baseman who plays awesome defense.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I don't think its even almost though
He had a 4ish war last year
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
This is the ‘we like our prospects more than everyone else’.
Both Sands and Gordon aren’t elite prospects, and getting a guy like Upton should be tried.
But those two aren’t good enough to fetch Upton, for the same reason.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Actually I think
if the Royals had Upton and were looking to trade him for prospects that Gordon/Sands would be enough to make that trade happen. While you may have some doubts about both, Sands was recently voted the best Left Field prospect in the minor leagues by baseball america, and we already know that many scouts love Gordon.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Moot point
Rays are not interested in our prospects, they are interested in winning the Division.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
A guy like Upton? Who has basically had one good year and is starting to get more expensive?
If we’re going to start dealing two of our top 5 prospects it should be in part of a larger package to actually get a good proven player.
His war has been over 4 3 of the last 4 years
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Right
he is a proven “good” player, he’s just not the star everyone thought he’d be.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt the Rays are looking for prospects they need real replacements
at the major league level.
Loney / Elbert might get it done but I’d think they would want an outfielder back who is ready right now and we don’t have that.
Maybe Loney./Paul/Elbert for Upton
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't
Loney cost about the same as Upton? Also, the Dodgers would still need to add a 1B that would cost more than $5M.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 12, 2010 10:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
They need to add a bat anyway, and this trade would simply shift the open spot from LF to 1B.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Sure
but you can sign LaRoche/Pena/Dunn/Konerko which maybe the Rays cannot do. Upton and Loney are fairly equal salary wise.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is the overwhelmed part
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
disregard that i misread
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'd expect
the Braves to go after him, they need a CF and have a much better system than we do
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I was thinking the same thing. However, I think Phil is right in saying that they are not looking for prospects. They need people to step into positions right now. Do the Braves have prospects that can do that?
Freeman might be the perfect fit
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Except the Braves also need besides a CF
a 1st, SS, LF, CF
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
I would be shocked if the Braves would do that
Dude is 20 and has raked. I’m sure they see him as the future of 1B. They have enough pitching surplus to get it done though.
except the rays also have a surplus of pitching
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Right
I don’t see them trading Freeman for Upton. That team though may not be willing to count on a 21 year old at 1st base, maybe the can get Lee back on a one year deal.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I think Wren said before the season ended
he planned on having Freeman be the Opening day 1B
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
probably none they’d want to give up. Freeman is supposed to be talking over 1st for them next year.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Am intrigued by a lot of guys on this prospect list
Pederson, Baldwin, Solano, still intrigued by Lindblom (but only as a reliever), some good choices.. But I think my vote here will go to….
(see vote thread)
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OT: Emma Watson
She is a cute girl, but I am not a fan of the return of the pixie. That is appropriate only if she is going to play Peter Pan. Frank Sinatra’s corpse is wanting to marry her though.
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NO!
I love her with long hair :(
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You’ll never be pulling it anyway.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
she’s still cute
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
this
also, I think some girls can pull off short hair. I think Emma does.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
From Tom Krasovic
#sfgiants, #Dodgers have some interest in SS/2B Nishioka. MLB man guesses posting fee to Chiba Lotte could exceed $4 million.
Another MLB man’s guess is Nishioka fetches 2m to 3m per year.
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That seems like something we maybe could do
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
how many years would it take?
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so were going to pay theriot money or more to a guy whos upside could very well be theriot?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if his upside is Theriot
it’d be more fair to say he could be no better than Theriot. His upside could be a bit better though.
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After watching the failures
of Matsui and Iwamura I would be incredibly leary of spending my money on a Japanese infielder.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I am leery of it as well
though there is something about him that seems better or more intriguing at least, just from watching game film. Who knows, really — but it is admittedly a gamble.
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It is a gamble in the sense that he is an unknown. The thing is though we are probably going to pay that money to someone for 2B, because I don’t really believe that DeJesus has a shot at it. So essentially it will be Nishioka or Theriot or someone of that ilk. Personally, I like the unknown of Nishioka.
But you probably have to sign Nishioka to a multi-year deal, and the others “of that ilk” probably come on a one-year deal.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see the drawback there. What second basemen will be available after this season that are likely to be better?
Dan Uggla!
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
hell
we could get him on a one year deal now! (granted it will cost players as well as money…….but we’d keep him away from the Giants!)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Heh
Kelly Johnson?
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Ivan DeJesus
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
We’d still have to pay the posting fee and sign him to a contract. It’s not like he would be in arbitration years.
Almost $4M per for a guy that could easily turn out to be Theriot sounds like a lot to me.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
You’re buying out the risk of arbitration, and able to sign him for a number of years. Don’t want to rely on Theriot or DeJesus? What are your other choices?
Jamey Carrol
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Furcal played two games at SS in Aug
who do you think was playing SS?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Juan Uribe
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Dave Cameron’s look at 2Bs. Yes , they are varying degrees of suck, but there are relatively cheap, short-term choices out there.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
What risk of arb
He wouldn’t even be eligible until after three years.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Right
If anything, you are locking yourself into a situation you would otherwise be able to walk away from.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
David Eckstein
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Orlando Hudson
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
As is Theriot
and very possibly the guy you want to spend money on who has zero MLB experience but we do no that the two Japanese middle infielders who kicked ass in Japan but were Theriot like upon arriving in the major leagues. Why is this guy different? Why should we take a chance?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
And remember that Iwamura and Matsui were 30 home run guys there. Nishioka doesn’t even have that.
by regfairfield on Nov 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I guess the big question to me is
has any Japanese hitter been worth bringing over other then Ichiro and Godzilla? They mostly seem to end up back up outfielders or infielders. Who am I missing that was considered a success?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Iguchi was decent for a couple years, so was Johjima.
by regfairfield on Nov 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Kosuke Fukudome is an lefty with elite walking ability and some power. He’s just overpaid by 6 million a year. He’s a Japanese DeJesus.
If Kosuke could hit past May he might have been a player
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I think that's right
The problems with Theriot are three:
1) He’s bad
2) He’s expensive
3) We don’t have a better choice available
If Nishioka is cheap enough, then he is already better than Theriot. If De Jesus proves himself, then Nishioka will also be cheap enough to move to a backup role. And maybe, just maybe, he’ll be better than Theriot.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Why don't we just sign Iwamura for nothing
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
isn't Nishioka younger?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
He’s also 5 years younger than Theriot. I think you sign Nishioka because the contract will probably cover his prime years, he has a chance to be better than Theriot or anyone else in your system.
And Theriot is already theoretically on his decline at 31, and his offense has been going downhill since 2008.
Did he go hunting with Dick Cheney
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
what if he’s better?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I’m just saying him being cheaper doesn’t automatically make him a better option. I have no faith in anyone that doesn’t hit for power in Japan.
I mean if you can get him for nothing, sure, might as well, but I can’t see him getting less than what Iwamura got in his first contract.
by regfairfield on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
For reference
Iwamura signed for 3 years, $7.7 million, plus the Rays paid a $4.55m posting fee (per Cot’s)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I thnk the point was made above, though
that since we already know he doesn’t hit for power, we won’t even expect that of him, but some of the other things he does well could translate better to MLB than power.
He also seems to like he’d be a much better fielding 2B than Theriot, no?
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The Riot is not a bad fielder.
Nishioka sounds like a good speedy leadoff type hitter though if he can maintain a good average and OBP.
Yah. I don't dislike Theriot btw
I just think I’d like him better if he was a) cheaper and b) a bench / role player.
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this is where scouting comes into play
Bobby V says he likes attention
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I disagree with 3
the league is littered with cheaper as good choices.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
nearly $4M per year is an expensive backup.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
And the $100 dollar question
is he any better then Jamey Carroll?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
I was writing this before I saw the 4/15 suggestion. Unless we have some kind of reasonable assumption that he will be at least Theriot and maybe better, then I can’t get behind that.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
We can reunite the LSU tag team!
Theriot and Fontenot
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Josh Rawitch (or someone in Dodger PR) blogged about Ryan Theriot’s charity golf tournament in Louisiana which takes place today (and also has a tailgate before tomorrow’s LSU game).
Russell Martin is apparently there, too, in support. If George Sherrill was there too, the Dodgers could consolidate all their non-tenders in one telegram.
I think this is the most scattered
vote I’ve ever seen.
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Ha Ha
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nice call back.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
The voting so far
Cash is so money, leading with 4.
The sun is shining on Solano, as he is right behind with 3…
…but Late Night is hoping the sun sets on both of them, as he also has three…
…while Mister Magill, who call himself Lil, though everyone knows him as Nancy, also has three.
James Baldwin took time out from his prolific writing career to get two votes.
Captain Eo has one. So does Leon “The Fedora” Landry.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I don't really care who plays at 2nd Base
My preferred option is DeJesus, but that isn’t happening. If Ryan Theriot, or anybody of his talent level is the starting 2nd baseman, we’re screwed anyway.
So lets sign Adrian Beltre, Adam, Dunn, Carl Crawford, and Jayson Werth to help them out.
Were not screwed but it does make the task harder
if you spend $ 4 Million on him while keeping the budget in line with 2009/2010.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I was just riffing off the ’we’re screwed because of __________’ comments we had a couple of days ago.
Right, but Reg owns the right to that sentence
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
This is why the McCourts are so vigilant about defending copyright.
by regfairfield on Nov 12, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with it, but it’s not my line.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I would definitely
trade Russell Martin for Carlos Beltran.
depending how much $ the Mets kick in
he could be Raffy’s DL companero
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Beltran ain't coming
Wasn’t Gibbons signed for peanuts an hour (literally)after Podsednik declined?
We are good in LF with Robinson, Gibbons and Scraps.
If Beltran were good, he wouldn’t be on the block by a big market payroll team.
We need to save our money
is Scraps
Gibbons’ dog? I think your definition of “good” is far from mine regarding the LF situation
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Scraps
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he can follow him around
and grab the dropped fly balls or misjudged ones with his mouth!
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Having this puppy called Scraps
is a little unsettling, given the earlier discussion.
by Bob Hendley on Nov 12, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
The Gibbons deal was going to happen whether or not Podsednik declined that option. They are unrelated. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Podsednik still re-signs with the Dodgers.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
If the Mets pay half of the $18.5m, sure
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Late Night Lemmerman
" After a monster season with the Raptors this past year, Lemmerman was named as the Pioneer League MVP. "
This kid from Newport Beach/Corona Del Mar has had success at every level. Academic All-American at Duke.Good size.
http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1355440
09/16/2010 PIO Most Valuable Player
09/16/2010 PIO Post-Season All-Star
We couldn’t ask for more from his first year, right? I think he’ll be a much higher rated prospect a year from now for sure.
I believe the irony committee will vote “no” on this being irony. It is funny though.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
It might be ironic
that he posted it without realizing the connection to the list.
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that would not, however, be “irony”.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Lemmerman
“good size”, posted by “megaballs”. Classic.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Jack Stephan yesterday ...
A grave-hunter blogger happened across his family cemetery monument last year. Photo from her blog as well. It is classic. He will be 93 on Wednesday.
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That is the grave of a man who is either the most or the least self-aware man I’ve ever encountered.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t say I ’m comfortable with the idea of building a cemetery monument with an open-ended death date. Seems like a job best suited for others after I go.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
That is what separates you
from the men of vision like Jack Stephan.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Ha!
I would like my tombstone to say "He died comfortably in his sleep.
Not screaming, like the other four passengers in his car."
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Here Lies Humma Kavula
That he was a liver
there can be no doubt
But now he is dead
’cause his just gave out.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Dave, Young, he Wasn’t
So Death Came Today
We Dug Him This Grave
And Here He El Lay
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
you should do this
as a side gig
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I suspect my tombstone will read
I had the right-of-way
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Collapses in six seconds?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
but you're hungry an hour later
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by Pure Azure on Nov 12, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Despite the frenetic pace of construction, no workers were injured — and thanks to the prefab nature of the process, the builders wasted very few construction materials. Below is a time-lapse video that shows the hotel being built from the ground up in less than a week:
I would not want to be in the IKEA built hotel in an Earthquake. Have you seen their shelfs’ stability?
Really
my IKEA dresser is already in shambles and I don’t live on the Pacific Rim
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Is the Pacific Rim
something similar to the Dutch Rudder?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
it is quite volatile
and has a lot of moving parts, so…
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check out LAD organization all stars
MILB.com just announced them..might help voting for next 5 guys..
notables in contention..
BCG..OF
Lemmerman -SS
JTWise-c
GWilborn-LHP
NAkins-OF.
Thanks for posting this
quite a surprise that Lemmerman won over Gordon at SS. Sands got Utility and was name Branch Rickey Player of the Year.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
MiLB.com will be honoring the players — regardless of age or prospect status — who had the best seasons in their organization.
Lemmerman rocked his league – he was the MVP – while Gordon did not.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Sands
Hey I guess Lindsey had a better yr in AAA…won batting title etc..??
Remember this ust recognizes players who had a good yr not best players.
Lemmerman had better yr than Gordon.
I’d still take JSands over Lindsey..
See my quote, above.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
HollywoodJoe67
at Dodger Thoughts forwarded this along from from Bill Simmons
Here is the movie poster if Judd Aptow ever makes a baseball movie:
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Who is the ugly kid on the right?
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Matt "Justin Guarini" Cain?
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Aren't they all ugly?
Matt Cain.
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I guess we know who
Seth Rogan will be playing
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Surprised Keith Law would goof like this
from SoSG:
http://www.sonsofstevegarvey.com/2010/11/dodgers-mulling-over-martin.html?
Keith Law insider piece on catchers talks about Dodgers situation with Martin and says:
Lucas May, 26, is the club’s best bet in the minors, but his defensive development appears to have stagnated which leaves Dodgers GM Ned Colletti with a decision to make on Martin.
Um…hello, Keith?
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Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh?
Think, Law. Think!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Well no one told Keith about May
That he is gone
Well no one told Keith about May
Soon on him it’ll dawn
That it’s too late to promote Lucas
He was traded, not that I care
Please don’t bother trying to play him
He’s not there
Well lemme tell you ‘bout the way he crouched
The way he hit
The way he played with flair
His eyes were cool and calm
His hands were sure and soft
But he’s not there
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The Zombies had two huge hits
that I loved as a kid
She’s Not There
and
Tell Her No
Then Hold Your Head Up from the Argent who was from the Zombies was he not.
Going into 9th grade I was dating a girl who went on summer vacation so I went out with her best friend instead because I’d always liked her more. That was cool except when the girl came back I broke up with her and five minutes later her friend called me to break up with me saying she could not go out with me any more because her friend had asked her not to. To top this off two weeks later she was dating my best friend and he kept telling me how great she was. I had been a dick and deserved everything that happened to me but Tell Her No really reasonated with me after that. That pretty much ended our friendship. Luckily with all Junior High School romances, she was done with him after a few months.
See I can do the girl chat BS thing.
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I was terrified of girls in junior high school. They were also almost all much taller than me, too.
Wasn’t Time of the Season – known in my crowd as the beer gulp exhalation song: aah! – also by The Zombies? And I am pretty darn sure Argent was a Zombie.
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You are both correct. Argent was a Zombie and their third (and biggest, IIRC) hit was, in fact, Time of the Season.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
I was super slick with the ladies
in middle school, but didnt quite do as well in HS.
I also love the Zombies.
It was on sidebar but they might have
Jay Jaffe also pointed out error to Keith Law just a little while ago via Twitter
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I only can see the intro to that article which bylines Law, was going off SoSG excerpt
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Which is the intro. Keith Law only wrote a little blurb on Martin. This is what Keith Law is credited on written.
3. Russell Martin: A likely non-tender, Martin’s body has gone south on him in the last two years, and he’s lost bat speed and strength. Some players peak early, and while Martin’s probably worth a minor league contract and spring training invite, there’s too much reason to think he’s done to guarantee him seven figures or two years.
That implies that Martin is a less valuable player than Barajas and an equally valuable player as Ellis. I don’t know if I can agree with that.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
He is probably selling him a little short, but I certainly wouldn’t want to give Martin even $4M. He is $1.5-2M for me.
I'd give him 2-3 mil
he can still be more valuable at a position that is a premium right now without paying him what is a really low amount comparatively. I still think he’s better than Ellis and Barajas (though I’ll be happy if one of those guys comes back to be the backup) even with his health recovery questions. But he is not worth 4 or more to be sure.
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Will they sign Danny Dramamine next?
from Jon Morosi on twitter: #Phillies sign Eddie Bonine, source tells FOXSports.com.
Good guy to have around in case anyone on team suffers from motion sickness.
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Tight Race
By my count:
Cash – 6
Solano – 5
Lemmerman – 4
Magill – 3
Landry – 3
Baldwin – 2
BCG – 2
Eovaldi – 1
Shortly after the Dodgers announced Mattingly would replace Joe Torre as manager next season, Mattingly asked third-base coach Larry Bowa to be his bench coach. But Colletti wanted to go in a different direction. Mattingly wouldn’t say anything specific about what happened, but said this about Bowa: "You know what? It’s difficult. I’ll say that. I don’t know if I want to go much further than that. Bo’s knowledge, the way he sees the game is as good as I’ve seen. It’s a difficult situation."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2010/11/more-from-the-times-visit-with-don-mattingly.html
Of the Dodgers’ position players in the Fall League, Mattingly said outfielder Trayvon Robinson is the most advanced. I spent some time talking to Robinson and will have more on him on this blog next week.
This is for you, Ned
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 12, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Ha Ha
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I had seen
rumors that Mattingly wanted Bowa and Ned said no, but that is the first confirmation I’ve seen of it.
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Good for Ned but not a great way
to build the Manager/GM relationship.
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Other than
to demonstrate who the boss is. Doesn’t seem like the “vertical alignment” that Frank said Ned was so good at.
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Yea, it would have been a good idea to tell Don that before he approached Larry.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
The flip side
is that it would have been a good idea to run it by Ned before asking Bowa.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
This
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Donnie trying to say that
Bo knows baseball?
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by David Young on Nov 12, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Why Joe Posnanski
is the writer a lot of us wish we could be.
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I'm going to make this a fanshot
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
My lunch was nowhere near as spectacular
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
His text with it read
Pulpo throws down
I don’t get it. Pulpo is Spanish for octopus, but that doesn’t look like arroz con pulpo to me. Isn’t that maybe a smothered chicken leg and thigh? Looks pretty good. And Gordon should eat two of those plates.
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Pulpo Fiction
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 12, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Possible nickname of his friend and/or family member who cooked said meal for him.
For instance, maybe Antonio Alfonseca cooked it for him. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
A's claim Encarnacion
do they trade Kouzmanoff? or just non-tender him?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions
A's
are busy little beavers this winter.
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Probably nontender Kouz
Encarnacion would not have been bad for the Dodgers.
I guess in the sense we could have moved him or blake to first
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First time the words Encarnacion, would not, and bad have been used in the same sentence.
by regfairfield on Nov 12, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
i've read them before
but the “would not” is new…. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
De La Rosa
is being pursued by the yanks and nats
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OT - LeBron
So LeBron James is playing TOO MANY minutes, he had a dig at his coach last night that 44 was too much vs. Boston. Right, you’re a healthy 25-year-old freight train and you’re playing your main rival after they whooped you to start the season, and you’re complaining about 44 minutes. Folding under the pressure already.
I think they’ll get better, but I’m going to love to see the circular firing squad if they don’t get MUCH better.
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Link
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/25801090
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he won't talk that way
when Riley takes over.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Riley
is a bigger coach-killer than any player I’ve seen. I guess if he wins a ring or three no one will care in the long run, but his egomania turns me off. Snake in the grass.
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Now thats just dumb
they don’t have much of a bench because they spent all their money acquiring him and bosh and resigning wade.
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I have to take Dylan's word for it
@dylanohernandez Japanese sports daily Sports Nippon reporting that Hiroki Kuroda will remain in the majors for another year. http://tinyurl.com/38duu7z
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@dylanohernandez The #Dodgers are Kuroda’s first choice, according to the Sports Nippon report.
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Wants one year deal?
We are first choice? huzzah I say.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I second
that huzzah!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
So say we all. There is nothing bad about Kuroda on a one-year deal.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Except that if we all agree then that by itself is bad
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Make it happen, Ned.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 12, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
if Ned gets Kuroda and Lilly thats essentially signing 2 of the top 5 pitchers on the market. not bad so far..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Come back to LA Hiro
your home away from home
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Eric, have you already written
Kuroda signs with Dodgers story?
Martin Non Tender Story?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
1) Partially written Kuroda story
2) No; non-tenders won’t happen until December 2
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Going to Vegas
I am taking bets for 5 other people….so far I like this parlay… KC/Hou/CLE with the points.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 2:10 PM PST reply actions
without looking
are they playing Carolina?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, DAL. It used to be -14. I know Dallas sucks, but I can’t imagine any NFL matchup that warrants a 14 point spread this year.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I once gave a co-worker a $5 convoluted roulette bet
where you had to let it ride on red or black a few times until you had $160 if all the bets won. I remember thinking, that’s $5 dollars I’ll never see again because who would really bother to do that once they had your money. But, come Monday she handed me $160
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Nice work. About three years ago I had a magical run with roulette. I hit 6 separate numbers with $5 bets, and I could only do it if I was betting with someone else’s money.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
So, that had to hit 5 times, right? 5, 10, 20, 40, 80
Not bad
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
and of course
I immediately thought Damn, I should have given her $25
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I
Have a friend who gave me several hundred dollars to make a bet on a particular number several times. I did it in two sessions and his number hit twice the second time.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 12, 2010 3:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Eovaldi
Before I vote for him for the third straight round, would someone please tell me if my thinking on his potential is flawed? From what I’ve read about him, he’s got a high velocity fastball that has a lot of sink to it. I haven’t found his groundball/flyball rates, but he does have a remarkably low number of homeruns allowed in a some very hitter friendly environments. I also know that he has low strikeout numbers and some command issues. So, assuming he can develop some command, he sounds to me like he has similar tools to Rubby. I am open to being told why I am wrong and voting for someone else this round.
I don't think you are wrong
Eovaldi does have a lot of upside if he can gain better command and possibly improve his secondary stuff. He def has the velocity which is something you can’t teach. I’ve alwasy ranked him favorably, and even though I didn’t vote for him yet i expect him to be pretty high on my list again this year
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 12, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
the analysts are proposing trades on MLBN
Harold Reynolds says Carlos Beltran for Jonathan Broxton.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions
If the Mets pay Broxton AND pick up half of Beltran's money
Done and Done.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
heh
Plesac’s was Grienke to TOR for Travis Snider
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
They can have two overpriced closers!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Hooray!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
I don't watch "Glee"
But after seeing this clip, I have seen enough to proclaim:
GLEE, I CONDEMN THEE!!!
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/11/12/glee-gwyneth-paltrow-forget-you/
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Forgot to add
The great and powerful Kavula has spoken.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
That is some pretty crappy auto tune
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
True, but some can be very mild…that just sounded horrible.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
How can you say that about the technology that brought us the Bed Intruder Song?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
or
Build a Turtle Fence?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention “Forget You.” Glee should have left that alone.
Yes, I’m aware that Cee-Lo himself did “Forget You,” but I like to ignore that. First, he did the vulgar version first, so he gets complete credit, and I like to think he was forced by the record company to do a radio edit, so he purposefully did a terrible one.
In short:
Cee-Lo’s “Forget You”: It Shall Be Ignored But I Will Allow It
Glee’s “Forget You”: I CONDEMN THEE!!!!
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
The Black Eyed Peas had already been condemned for My Humps.
Once condemned, all further Condemn-or-Allow arguments are mooted.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
hahah damn
I wish we had this conversation pre-My Humps than…
because really, Let’s Get Retarded? You can’t take that back.
Andrew Miller, taken one pick ahead of Lord Clayton, is no longer a Marlin. He was traded to the Red Sox for Dustin Richardson today.
BTW, Pedro Martinez
take a chance on him?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 3:57 PM PST reply actions
I was gonna say that I didn’t think he’d hold up over the course of a season, but I didn’t know if I was being snarky or not,
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Do any of us know anymore?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m a man of contradictions.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
man is
a contradiction
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Your tombstone, inspired by your avatar
For Tommy Blackjack
We’re here to grieve
Tommy’s gone
But we still believe
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
awesoke, thanks.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
We can wait until one of the five starters (including both Kuroda and Padilla; yeah, I said it) gets hurt.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
good plan
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'd sign him
and trade him for Delino Deshields Jr.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Finally got around to watching Game 6 of the 1981 World Series
With 2 outs in the 9th inning of Game 6, with the Dodgers up 9-2 and one out away from winning the series, Davey Lopes had to go into the clubhouse to get dirt out of his eyes (contacts?). This was one play after Lopes made an error on a grounder by Reggie Jackson. That would have been murder having to wait that long for the final out.
Also, Howard Cossell often interrupted Keith Jackson quite often
heh
My Dad called Cossell a “Yankee apologist” and in listening to his commentary, he did make it sound more like the Yankees lost rather than the Dodgers won.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I also often use the word often, apparently.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
pssssst
RSVP for the karaoke party!!! http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/12/1810929/tbla-karaoke-night-thanksgiving-weekend
Sons and a nephew of athletes committing to play baseball at local schools
UCLA announced their baseball recruiting class including Shane Zeile, nephew of Todd Zeile, who played at UCLA and then made numerous stops in a 15 year career, Ryan Garvey who has committed to USC and Trevor Gretzky who is going to play at San Diego State with Tony Gwynn.
Now, just because these players sign Letter of Intents, they can be drafted (see Zach Lee) so many schools have to wait until after the MLB draft and signing deadline to see what their class will look like in the end.
Another son of a former big leaguers going to play baseball in college is Brandon Bonilla (son of Bobby), who has committed to Arizona State.
Kuroda ready to re-sign with the Dodgers
Free agent right-hander Hiroki Kuroda is on the verge of an agreement with the Dodgers, reports Japanese site Sanspo.com (as translated in this tweet from NPBTracker). The contract would be a one-year deal worth approximately $8MM.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/kuroda-ready-to-re-sign-with-dodgers-1.html
Awesome news, imho.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
only $8 mil?
sheeeeet, maybe we’ll have enough money to sign a Type A position player after all
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Rosenfail says
#Dodgers source: Report that Kuroda on verge of 1 yr, $8M deal to return “inaccurate.” Asked if deal close, source said “hard to tell.”
Who to believe!
I’d rather not beliieve Ken Rosenfail but he’s probably right, that seems kinda low. Maybe it’s $10mil?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The sourced tweet
says 1 billion yen ($8M), but 1 billion yen at today’s exchange rate is around $12 M, which makes more sense.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ahhh that would explain the discrepancy, a mistranslation of sorts
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Definitely makes more cents
$8M would be a ridiculous hometown discount
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
that'll buy a lot of carp
minus the inscentives
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Oh, I looked it up and used a calculator, then rounded. The $116,000 is meaningless (please throw it my way Hiroki).
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Kuroda
Kershaw
Billingsley
Lilly
Padilla
Add the Power bat and you’re good to go …
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 12, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
there's this guy in Florida
may be available…….
(take your pick of either one)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Sweet
It would be cool if the Dodgers would consult me before making news on a Friday night. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Liking the strategy
Grab up the two best starters behind Lee before the Hot Stove gets warm. Next would be to focus on the offense and then sift through the remainders to find a good bargain on a #5 starter.
MLBN showing highlights of
the Morris vs Smoltz game 7 World Series game. I hope they show this entire game again sometime this winter. I remember watching it a couple years ago, I think I said wow just about every inning late in the game.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 12, 2010 6:48 PM PST reply actions
Kevin Love
had the first 30-30 game in the NBA in 28 years.
He put up 31 points and 31 rebounds tonight against the Knicks.
Says more about the Knicks than it does about Love?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I thought Kevin Love was nothing more than a mere Andrew Bogut impersonator.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 12, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
So far as I've seen, he's looked pretty good
Nothing spectacular, but certainly a nice player.
When Moses Malone had his 32-38 game, it was against Seattle, which had a very good team at the time.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 12, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
I have been spending the evening writing the parody/sentimental lyrics to a song that will honor my wife’s uncle at his 80th birthday party. You?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds awesome
Which reminds me I need to finish up this year’s Christmas parodies. This year, I am doing “White Christmas” to the tune of Billy Idol’s “White Wedding.” Timely.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 12, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
Not bad at all
That reminds me — “White Christmas” was made famous by the movie “Holiday Inn” — and its most infamous sequence is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAHSTbD4A5M
Bing in blackface! Now THAT’S uncomfortable.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
All to the tune of “This Land is Your Land.”
He’s a nice man. The whole thing is cheezy with a zee, but whatever, I like him and it’ll make him happy.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 12, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Man, nothing better than finding out god damn bullshit involving the girl you are currently talking to
Not a thing better than that. Bitches man, bitches.*
*sorry to Josie, Maddz, SFDodger, Teal, and whoever else might inhabit this message board who are actually cool chicks, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
If I
Recall correctly , this current gal was just someone you were talking to and not in a relationship.
Though I may need a scorecard to keep track.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 13, 2010 1:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Perhaps one day you will learn celibacy comes from calling women bitches, and that calling someone “one of the good ones” doesn’t help.
by regfairfield on Nov 13, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
My eyes rolled so far back in my head they nearly went all the way around
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I love that before any other free agent pitchers are signed
We will have signed 2 of the 3 best ones.
What’s that? Is that you, Optimism? I haven’t seen you in forever! How are you?!
Maybe this will be a bigger offseason than we anticipated. They could have very easily filled the open rotation spots with high-risk guys and floated us some idea of taking a gamble on past success and then blaming medical when it didn’t work out, but to sign Lilly and Kuroda (counting chickens alert) to me means they think we have a chance to build this team the right way.
Oh, and Ned saying Bye Bye Bowa makes me want to go Rent some property on the West Side first Story of Dodger Stadium this year. Maybe Ned actually knows what he’s doing and was forced into trading for past Yankees because of Torre? I mean, he has the right and, in fact, the responsibility to say no if it doesn’t make sense, but how do you say no to Joe Torre. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s the one who wanted Dotel back. I still blame Ned for what he gave up to get him, but it kind of jives that everyone we seem to trade for either played for the Yankees (Dotel), in the AL East against Torre (Sherrill), or was a big name AL player at some point (Garland, Thome).
Thinking aloud at 3:30am on a Saturday.
Proud man dies of crow allergy.
Kuroda is definitely a good sign. I’m just concerned that Ned might pull the 24 thing where a plan fails, then they decide to do the exact same thing.
by regfairfield on Nov 13, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Hey
since folks seem to get up in arms when she writes something they dislike, I thought it was fair to link to this as balance.
Hm
Padres Marlins discussing trade for Cameron Maybin… wonder who Pads would have to give up for him. Seems like one of those buy low trades that could pay off or is worth the risk.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Also, re Uggla
since I know some people here like him, if Marlins are really after “relief pitching in return,” well, the Dodgers could do that, no? Broxton and Lindblom ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
They couldn't afford Broxton
but I’m sure Belisario would make for an excellent option. Not straight up, but he’d be above average and cost effective for them. Also, we’ve seen how easy it is to get into Florida without a Visa.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
So I guess that Miggy trade
really worked out for them
by bhsportsguy on Nov 13, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Heh. Yeah.... not too much.
Well how are catcher Mike Rabelo, + pitchers Eulogio De La Cruz, Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop doing? They got them too but I haven’t checked on them.
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