Dodgers Bringing The Band Back Together: Hiroki Kuroda Close To One-Year Deal
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 10:25 AM PST
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PrintSay what you want about the 2011 Dodgers, but it appears they will have exceptional starting pitching. The Dodgers, according to several published reports, are close to re-signing Hiroki Kuroda to a one-year deal, worth $12 million. Bringing Kuroda back would give the Dodgers a formidable front four of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Kuroda, and Ted Lilly.
From the time the Dodgers acquired Lilly on July 31, they had a strong starting four:
| 2010 Dodgers Big Four, Since August 1 |
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| Starter |
GS |
QS |
W-L |
IP |
H |
R |
ER |
BB |
K |
ERA |
FIP |
WHIP |
| Kershaw |
11 |
9 |
3-5 |
73.2 |
56 |
25 |
23 |
25 |
70 |
2.81 |
2.98 |
1.100 |
| Kuroda |
11 |
8 |
3-4 |
74.0 |
56 |
29 |
26 |
15 |
60 |
3.16 |
2.96 |
0.959 |
| Billingsley |
11 |
8 |
3-6 |
70.1 |
57 |
27 |
25 |
27 |
74 |
3.20 |
2.47 |
1.194 |
| Lilly |
12 |
10 |
7-4 |
76.2 |
61 |
30 |
30 |
15 |
77 |
3.52 |
3.98 |
0.991 |
| Totals |
45 |
35 |
16-19 |
294.2 |
230 |
111 |
104 |
82 |
281 |
3.18 |
3.11 |
1.059 |
However, the club was just 21-24 in these games, because their offense didn't come through. In those 45 games, the Dodgers averaged 3.18 runs per game, and scored two runs or less in 19 of the 45 games.
Kuroda, who turns 36 on February 10, had the best season of his three-year major league career in 2010. He was 11-13 with a 3.39 ERA in a career-high 196 1/3 innings. He has increased his strikeout rate each year in the majors:
| Hiroki Kuroda's Improving Strikeout Rate | |||
| Year | K | BF | K% |
| 2008 | 116 | 776 | 14.9% |
| 2009 | 87 | 485 | 17.9% |
| 2010 | 159 | 810 | 19.6% |
Kuroda made $14.1 million in 2010 in the last year of a three-year contract, $13 million in salary and $1.1 million in a deferred signing bonus. Signing Kuroda would give the Dodgers 35 players on the 40-man roster.
Now, about that offense...
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I've been hoping all offseason this would happen
You can do a HELL OF A LOT WORSE than Kershaw-Billingsly-Lilly-Kuroda as your top 4
That 1-4 has got to be one of the 4 best in baseball
Teams that will rival it are the Giants, Phillies, Red Sox if Lackey and Beckett go back to what they should be, and I’m not really sure any other team’s will be as good…until Lee is signed that is, he could easily help a team jump into this category.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
One of the "better"
But as much as i am a Dodger fan, not as good as the Giants rotation.. our advantage was always having some form of an offense and not depending on the likes of Edgar Renteria
I agree the Giants is better
But the Dodgers is still right there.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Sanchez is worse
on his off days. But yeah, much better on his good days.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
For offense...
I’m hearing rumors about possibility of signing Nishioka, but no pops…. hm.. he is fun to watch though and “could” be similar to Ichiro in terms of hitting it for base hits… I dunno this offseason so far has been pretty good for me, our pitching staff at least so far is balanced with Kershaw, Blil, Lily, Kuroda, and I suppose we could go with Ely or journeyman for 5th?
Question, did the Dodgers actually give Kuroda FA?
We never did see a corresponding move such as non-tendering Kuroda, due to him not having 6 years normally reaching FA
Very Good Move
This is how the Dodgers can win next season, good starting pitching and a good bull pen. One more starter and one or two BP guys to go.
by kimo from kauai on Nov 13, 2010 10:50 AM PST reply actions
this pitching staff makes me excited for the season and wished it would start tonight
but then i remember our offense.
Current Projected lineup
1. Ryan Theriot
2. Scott Podesnik
3. James Loney
4. Rafeal Furcal
5. Andre Ethier
6. Casey Blake
7. Rod Barajas
8. Pitcher
9. Matt Kemp
Tony LaRussa is the manager now?
Hard to project a lineup that has 4 of the 8 position players without guaranteed contracts for next year.
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Since August 1
Kershaw-Kuroda-Billingsley: 33 GS, 25 QS, 218.0 IP, 169 H, 81 R, 74 ER, 67 BB, 204 K, 13 HR, 9-15 (14-19 team)
Lincecum-MCain-J.Sanchez: 35 GS, 21 QS, 218.1 IP, 173 H, 83 R, 77 ER, 68 BB, 228 K, 25 HR, 16-12 (22-13 team)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
And people say the Giants pitchers were the best...
PSHHHHH our offense is just the worst :(.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
by douchiedude on Nov 13, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite part is Billz numbers
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I would like the Dodgers to go after Maybin...
or atleast show that they are considering making CF the priority, not LF.
@neufaustcan
24 year old pre-arbitration center fielder. That would be nice, even if he can’t hit worth a lick.
I wonder what the price would be to trade for Maybin or Morgan
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
great news if it goes through
I definitely love the idea of bringing pitchers back on shorter contracts in case something goes sour
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
There is a really disgusting photo
plastered on ESPN.com’s MLB page. It’s a complete travesty.
Nothing is ever easy.
I had an idea what it would be before I clicked over
but it wasn’t so bad because amid all the chaos it’s hard to make out any of the subjects and/or logos.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
In case you wanted some not-so-light Saturday reading
Check out this in-depth analysis over at Royals Review.
What's most surprising to me is the lowest possible calorie category.
Who would’ve thought you could spend $11 at Taco Bell and get outta there with less than 900 calories.
Pretty cool over at Beyond The Box Score
The shortest and longest average time in between pitches. Jonathan Broxton comes in at the third slowest, the only Dodger on either list.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Only Steve Trachsel would be slower.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Jeff Suppan is mighty slow too if I remember. It takes at least 35 minutes to get a table at his restaurant.
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by G.Scott on Nov 13, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Giants and Diamondbacks refuse sloppy seconds
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/11/12/giants-diamondbacks-ax-taiwan-opener/
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I would.
Especially after the year Kuo had and the fact that one of the games last year got rained out.
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83 points isn’t even a school record for Wisconsin. It’s just the 4th highest. The record for the Badgers is 106 against Wisconsin-Whitewater in 1890. 87 against Beloit in 1903. 85 vs. Marguette in 1915.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I was telling my brother Greg that I doubt their basketball team will score that many this year.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wisconsin broke 83 points in basketball once last year. It was against Cal Poly.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I even said it to him when they were at 76! :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Maybin to Padres looking closer - MLBTR
I love this deal. I don’t even know who Florida is getting but I love the idea of San Diego getting another hole in their lineup. They already have Tony Gwynn Jr, how is Maybin any different?
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Yep
plus Maybin has a much, much better minor league track record.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Maybin’s only 23. If the Marlins didn’t rush him, he’d probably be considered a top 100 prospect and prospect hounds would rate him much higher than he currently is.
Ok
but then what’s in it for Florida to get rid of him?
All I’m saying is, either the Marlins are giving up on him, or the Padres are overpaying. If they deal Maybin and don’t get a superior outfielder in return (they won’t, it’s the Padres), then they’ll be looking at Stanton, Morrison and Cousins. Morrison and Cousins are higher upside talents for sure, but with that rotation I’d be looking to go for it more. Unless it’s a Maybin/Uggla deal (it’s not, it’s the Padres), San Diego is dealing for upside and Florida is downgrading.
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To get back more players under cost control, I guess. Maybin has only 600 PAs under his belt, but he’s seemed to have used up all of his options years by the Tigers and Marlins, and 1.29 years of service time. Maybe the Marlins think they can sign somebody else to play CF on the cheap, maybe they just like the prospects San Diego is giving up.
I’m just saying Maybin isn’t a bust yet.
I like him a lot, I just think this smells like a move that will lead to others being traded. Both these teams have big assets (Uggla/AGon) to trade, and they may be acquiring pieces/prospects to increase their leverage in those discussions.
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Deal is done, pending a physical, per Tom Krasovic of AOL Fanhouse. No idea of the return.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm
Wonder if they flip him to the BoSox with Adrian G for a nice haul
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Relievers Ryan Webb and Edward Mujica going to Florida, per Krasovic.
I really like that deal for the Padres. Turn and burn their relievers, but at the same time it seems good for Florida to get something useful for a player out of options and out of their plans.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I like Maybin’s upside, but just because someone plays in CF doesn’t make him a starter.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, ideally they wouldn’t deal Maybin, but once they decided he’s not in their plans at least they got something of use for him.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
He’d be replacing Tony Gwynn Jr., Chris Denorfia, and Luis Durango. on the Padres, Maybin’s a starter. Especially if they’re rebuilding.
Depends where you are at on the cycle
There is a good chance that both Webb and Mujica will provide more value in 2011 than Maybin. If the Marlins, who have the depth to replace Maybin, feel they can contend, and they probably can, it’s a good move.
For the Padres, it’s a good building piece. Like I said, I do like the deal on their end.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Mujica and Webb can play, but you’re right, that’s what you’re supposed to do with relievers.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Weird that the Marlins are exorcising the ghost of Miggy. Looks like a pretty poor return for a potential hof player.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 13, 2010 12:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
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Poor Pirates.
First Tracy, and then that other mediocre guy, and now Hurdle.
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probably not simply because of the prospects/players required on top of paying him $10mil this year. Even if the Dodgers get him, I kind of hope they don’t sign him to even the extension he just turned down. $12mil a year for an aging slugger with poor D is not something I’d be prepared to do. That being said, I like Adam Dunn because putting him at 1B will make his defense have less impact than having him play a middle infield position.
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What are the chances Uggla could change positions? I’m assuming he’s not dirt slow and could run around left field (I mean, if Manny can why not?), and that he has some infield range that might make him tolerable at third.
I was saying you’d have to try for Uggla if you had BJ Upton in CF. The reason you don’t move Uggla to LF is because you have Ethier there in my scenario. You could move him to 3B if he’d be willing to, but I thought I heard that he wants to stay a 2B.
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Probably. But he could probably handle 3B no problem. He won’t be the best 3B but his bat would play there and he’d be serviceable.
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I disagree. There would be problems.
His bat would be very good at third but it’s already elite at second.
I mean, the positions demand different things, obviously.
At second you need quick feet, range and sure hands. At third you need more of a strong arm and quick reflexes. I think it’s got to be easier to go from 2B to 3B than from 3B to 2B. Not saying he’d be a great 3B, but it cant be that difficult.
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Come back to me, Hiroki!
Who do you think would win out the 5th spot? I’m kind of dreading the thought of that…I still blame Ely for not going .500
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I agree
1 John Ely start would have made all the difference.
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I meant his October start
against Arizona lol
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Harang and Bonderman intrigue me
I suppose Bonderman more so for the 5th spot, I think he could have a nice year in the pitchers parks in this division. Then there’s always Jon Garland, NL West journeyman. I wonder how much Bonderman would command?
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I'd like to give Bonderman a flyer too
if not too costly. He could fizzle but as a # 5 guy still has some upside, is still young, etc.
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Garland I think it’s gonna cost little too much for 5th, but I also like idea of Bonderman lol. Give us chance to win every now and then
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11882019
from that, damn his changeup can be pretty damn good.
Yeah, but 3 of the 8 Ks were Andruw Jones, so grain of salt warning :)
I’d like to see him in LAD too, but he’s not the typical “he’ll be better in Dodger Stadium” guy because he doesn’t give up home runs to begin with. Basically, I think he’ll be more of the same guy he is because the park factors won’t affect him as much as they affect, say, Ted Lilly.
I agree with Eric. I’d love to see Padilla back on a 2-3million deal.
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I thought DS suppressed doubles and triples instead of HR? That’s what I’ve seen kicked around anyway, I’m not one to research park factors. If Vinny P only costs 2.5M, I suppose, I just think it might be time to move on from him before he wears out his welcome and/or back.
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I always like Harang but I think its because his last good year was when I won my fantasy league. That was 2006.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 13, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
The Dodgers already committed 19.5 million to Lilly and Kuroda this year. And they still need to sign a bat, where is the money coming from to give Padilla another $5 million?
I don’t think the budget will be as low as you think.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
This
if they were going to stay below $100mil this year, they’d have had to pass on both of these guys. I would be shocked if it didn’t push to 110-115 including deferred payments.
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What the!? From the NY Times
Ardi Rizal, the Sumatran celebrity smoker, has recently given up the habit.
I dig the BB reference in header.
The Dodgers are on a mission from God.
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Hey Tripod
you ever wander up to Artesia and Normandie? There’s a strip mall right there on the north side of Artesia with a few restaurants. I went to this Hawaiian BBQ place there yesterday and it was pretty good at a good price. Had the SPAM, shaved ice, Kalua Pig and fruit punch.
Not sure if that’s your bag, but I know you said you live in the area.
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I was shocked by this
per Stewart Mandel:
Penn State just threw its first TD in Columbus ever under Paterno. … That’s an amazing stat.
Can that seriously be true?
I mean really?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’m sure Eric is digging though game logs as we speak.
Keep in mind, Penn State didn’t join the Big Ten until the 90s, so they might not have the history playing each other you think.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Penn State went 10 games without a TD pass in Columbus.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Make that 11
the game logs were only through 2007
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Here are the game logs (scroll to page 4):
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Their last TD pass in Columbus was in 1963.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Also keep in mind
and this is a sweeping generalization, Big Ten football is the most conservative style of football possible.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Oh it's true.
They’ve never scored much in Columbus and only had 15 in their lone win there too.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
They always get manhandled in Columbus
though they look really good so far today…14-3 at the half. Offense is really in gear. Go Lions!!!
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My dreams of a TCU Boise State championship grow closer to happening(i know its never going to happen)
no, I don’t care about their schedules, I just want to see the NCAA suddenly decide once that happens that a playoff system just has to happen.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It is what I am rooting for as well
Oregon State knows what they have to do
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
+1111111111111
PLAYOFFS PLEASE.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I would have gone out to watch some games today
but the games I really want to see are the Pac-10 games so I will stay home and make home made Vietnamese sandwiches (brining the pork shoulder now).
If TCU were to lose somehow today
it does help the Stanford going to the Rose Bowl journey (though Auburn losing would mean more)
Eric.
What do you think about the Dodgers and the Japanese batting champ, Nishioka? It’s said he’d make a better 2nd basemen and we can sure use an upgrade there.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I am ambivalent
I literally have no idea how to translate his numbers to MLB, and am leery of committing a 3-4 year deal toward such an unknown. Could be some upside, which would be cool, but I really don’t know.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I see.
There sure are positives and negatives. My friend is big on Asian baseball prospects (we’re Korean) and he said that this guy is said to be the next Ichiro. Obviously, that’s just speculation but that would be amazing if it were true.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Comparing him to the best Japanese hitter ever to come to the states?
Come on.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Not me.
I know absolutely nothing about him….hence the “is said to be” part as in the word out of there is.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Seriously
Ichiro in his last year in Japan, at age 26, had a 1.005 OPS with a .387 batting average. His first year in Seattle? .838.
Nishioka has a career .788 OPS in Japan. Can we expect a mid-.600’s OPS next year? Because as bad as he was, Ryan Theriot’s 2010 OPS was a cool .606.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyoshi_Nishioka
Not the next Ichiro (There won’t be “next” Ichiro not even close), but I don’t think he’ll do that well probably around .275hitter? His not that fast either, and Ichiro hits groundball roughly around 50-55% and still accumulates 200 hits every year, that’s just… yeah.
This guy is also injury prone seems like, which doesn’t help either. One more thing, let’s not forget how much Cubs is regretting after signing Fukudome.
Well said.
I don’t think there will ever be a next Ichiro, that’s just the word out of Japan and how high they praise him.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I remember
people saying Dioner Navarro could be the next Pudge, and so on…there’s a lot of hyperbole when prospects/foreign FA get hyped, just ignore that noise.
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I am trying to do this over the weekend- next fan post
Who had the best 4-5 year stretch as an NL second basemen, Hornsby 1921-1925, Robinson 1949-1953, Morgan 1972-1976.
Although
It is hard to compare anyone to a player who won Offensive WAR in 12 out of 14 years. But Robinson and Morgan each led the league in Offensive WAR 4 of those 5 year periods and its pretty good bet that both were better fielders and base runners than Hornsby.
Won't happen
LSU needs Auburn to lose twice to even get to the SEC title game.
Not to mention needing losses from 3 of Oregon, TCU, Boise St
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Nebraska went to the National Championship game despite not winning the Big 12 or even the Big 12 North.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
But I don’t think LSU has enough juice for that, not with the other undefeateds
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
OU got raped by USC
after losing to KSU in the Big 12 title game :)
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Just felt like saying that one.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Yep.
If Auburn beats Georgia, Bama’s title hopes are gone too and I can see them rolling over and dying (Utah Sugar Bowl 2 years ago)
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
If Auburn lost twice
and a one-loss LSU team won the SEC title game, they would probably jump Boise and with Utah getting blown out by Notre Dame, TCU might drop some human points
Yup
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Keep in mind that the SEC title game will be against a 3-loss (or potentially 4-loss) team, and they won’t get the computer strength of schedule bump that is normally associated with that game.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
But that would make sense.
Throughout history, undefeated champions weren’t that common. There were no BSU’s and TCU’s rolling through easy schedules but it’s all changing, there needs to be a playoff system now.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
LOL!
Tony Parker, a center. Carmelo Anthony, an NBA champion AND a Spur?! Those idiots……….. Plus, Duncan is a power forward who plays center occasionally _;
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Loney to 5th starter?
;-)
Kill two birds with one stone!
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You saying Loney could be as good as Randy Johnson? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Killing two birds
would then require moving Dave Winfield to 1B
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by Pure Azure on Nov 13, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Poor guy’s had to wear an albatross around his neck ever since then.
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I read a quote from Emma Watson
who just finished her freshman year at Brown, she said one of her friends at Brown had not read nor seen any Harry Potter books or films and that a boy she went out there never heard of Harry Potter (thus did not know she was an actress).
I tend to disbelieve stories like that but she has no reason to make it up.
Well,
it is Brown, after all.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
false modesty?
a lot of celebrities are guilty of this…
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What's there to be modest about
I just find it strange for anyone to be alive in the last 20 years and not hear of Harry Potter, especially if you are of college age.
They must give out scholarships to
poor adolescents who were raised in a deep, dark cave.
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And then assign them
to celebrity students.
Does this mean when Jodie Foster was at Yale(?), no one had seen “Bugsy Malone” or “Freaky Friday?”
That would still be less strange than people
Watson’s age who’d never heard of Harry Potter. My guess is she was being truthful, but the pretentious guy she was talking to was not.
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Not hearing of Potter is strange
not reading the books or watching the films isn’t that unusual, I haven’t. Many celebrities like to downplay their fame in public comments even though they know they’re famous, whether it is to control their egos or project the idea that they’re normal.
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Auburn ties it with 51 second to go in the half. The TD catch was by a guy whose name makes me want to go to Wierstkuke or whatever that sausage place is called (sorry, Delias)
I’m up 38-0 at halftime. Looks like I won’t go winless this week!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Eric agrees
bobtimmermann
Every time an SEC team makes the BCS championship game, Jesus cries and then kills two puppies and four kittens. And a box turtle for spite.
This dude hangs out in South Redondo all day
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cutewithchris.com/images/2008/08/02/jesus_van.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cutewithchris.com/jesus/page/2/&usg=__MnQ0YtNyV_3B6Asx7qgutybJbgE=&h=360&w=480&sz=49&hl=en&start=0&sig2=4jI6kPCalXuYxP591EcpdA&zoom=1&tbnid=lvPeatQI2XRE5M:&tbnh=139&tbnw=185&ei=thHfTPG4PJOmsQOU9-yxCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dredondo%2Bbeach%2Bjesus%2Bvan%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1408%26bih%3D927%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=422&oei=thHfTPG4PJOmsQOU9-yxCg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=34&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=74&ty=79
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lifeontheedge/569902816/
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
That is AWESOME!
The Xbox and the cooler…I want it!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Must have gotten the news that
Utah got blown out by ND. If they played a poor game with that ND win, they could get jumped by Boise.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
So I have a space on my wall about 2x3 and need to put something ther
My room is covered in sports pictures, but I can’t decide what I want next. So far I have:
Autographed Luc Robitaille
Autographed Yogi Berra
Bobby Thompson rounding the bases
Ebbets Field
Autographed Ziggy Palffy
Autographed Shaq dunk on the Pacers in the finals with Rick Fox and Reggie Miller standing in awe
Autographed Bob Gibson
Lou Gehrig speech picture
1927 Yankees photo
Picture of Mays, Clemente and Aaron
Large 1955 Dodgers team roster photo
Any ideas?
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+1
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
He's bigger than 2x3 though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Kobe holding up
“5” in reference to his 5th title while holding the trophy after last years finals game 7.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Or this one
after his 4th because it looks so awesome.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Okay that looks awesome.
Mainly because it’s a real poster, but I’d buy.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Take down Bobby thompson and you will have some more room.
by LA Taco on Nov 13, 2010 3:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Oh man
I didn’t even realize G.Scott listed that. Terrible!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I saw that
and decided to not say anything because it was so terrible to read.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I like to remember what a rivalry used to feel like. Plus, it’s a really good photograph.
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Did you at least draw an evil mustache on Thomson?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I only have two pieces of sports memorabilia, one a signed 8×10 of Kobe as a rookie (with a cast on flying thru the air), and a baseball signed by Thompson and Branca commemorating The Shot.
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My goodness
that Kobe one sounds awesome… I remember that injury, still showing up to the gym before everyone else to get better. Kobe is immortal.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Two balls
one signed by G. Bush the Elder (ballplayer at least) and the other by Dan Quayle. Its a baseball, so I can’t throw it away.
Did Verne Lundquist say “My Goodness?”
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Saw that.
Here’s a Cam Newton touchdown coming up.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Yep
he’s pushing to meet the incentives in his contract.
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Haha
not gonna lie, I’m pretty sure he already has.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
(if there were any)
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
you don’t onside kick to start the second half.
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Don't think Sean Payton
got the memo, neither did Gene Chizik.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Agreed
if Kendra’s husband had hands Peyton Manning would have two rings. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Death penalty + ?
What is that? I like to joke that Auburn will get the death penalty, but there’s no way the NCAA does that again.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well
probably, though they would basically have to find slush funds and someone on Auburn’s payroll that knew about violations for that to happen
USC
did nothing to mitigate or cooperate with the investigation in its findings, there was a perception of lack of control and they did not control access to players or facilities. Their penalties had as much to do about what they didn’t do to show they were concerned about compliance as the possible violations themselves.
Nope.
Reggie just got benefits from an agent. But then Alabama having boosters pay kids and a high school coach got less harsh sanctions, as did an Oklahoma team with a cocaine dealing quarterback, an attempted murderer and 3 rapists… I really hate the NCAA…….
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
When your AD
basically does nothing in the face of a 5 year investigation to show he cares about possible violations, you are not helping yourselves.
Still isn't nearly as bad
as what I mentioned. Garrett was a dumbass, but Alabama had people affiliated with the school pay players, which is 200% illegal to the NCAA. Oklahoma actually broke laws by selling coke to an undercover cop, 3 players getting caught raping a girl in a hotel room and a player shooting another player in the chest with his gun. Tell me how not helping with the investigation is worse than that? Seriously, I can wait. REAL lack of institutional control are the idiot coaches letting their players do what they want and get arrested, THAT is lack of control. Urban Meyer’s Gators and obviously, the Sooners of the ’80s.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
The Lilly - Kuroda signings have actually made me feel worse about 2011..
There’s no way the team has enough money to improve the offense.
And Lilly-Kuroda are not exactly spring chickens.
There pretty good pitchers, with limited upside but a pretty far downside considering their ages.
I dont mind bringing back either…but not at the expense of not improving the offense.
These moves arent really “build the team” type moves.
They are “win now” moves for a team that is really far away from being good.
Other then lee who else is out there that would be a build the team type pitcher?
I disagree that with our current pitching staff this team is far away from being good.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think its very likely that Kemp and Loney
hit better next year then they did in the 2nd half for example, and with our pitching that might be enough to compete in the west.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Loney sucks.
It doesnt matter what part of the season he hits in…overall he’s shitty.
Kemp – better chance of a bounce back…but still this offense might be close to 2003 levels….without an upgrade.
Loney hit way worse in the 2nd half
then he did in the first half, or 08 or 09. So yes, he will probably bounce back in some way. I’m not saying I wouldn’t replace him because of it, but it will lead to an improvement in our offense.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Did you watch Loney in the first half
His numbers were actually pretty damned good for him. I think he had an .838 or around there OPS before the All-Star Break.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yep and even
had the highest BA for awhile.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Jorge De La Rosa is more in his prime..
Signing older vets to 1yr deals, or signing 35+yr olds to multi year deals dont strike me as the right thing to do for a team that needs to either rebuild, or sign a bunch of legit awesome free agents to improve the team.
Its like the Dodgers are doing whatever it takes to ensure maybe 83 wins…
he’s also only ever pitched more than 130 innings in a year once.
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This
I would much rather sign Kuroda and Lilly than De La Rosa.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
and will probably be pretty good next year
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
with derosa?
I was reffering to kuroda and lilly, I like bringing them back
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Is De La Rosa really going to sign for that much more than Lilly?
I wouldnt go 5/50 on him either…but I think he’ll sign for closer to what Lilly got.
And if Kuroda’s really going to get 13mils this upcoming year…I’d rather throw sign a Garland/Padilla for half that and have money left in the Adam Dunn fund.
If they want Adam Dunn, they will pay for him. It won’t be because they decided on Kuroda.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Right. People refer to Dunn as though it has something to do with the budget. It has nothing to do with the budget. Ned simply doesn’t want him.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Can we assume, then, that Ned is looking for an outfielder on the trade market?
BJ Upton would be a nice LF to get, because I still believe in his offensive upside, plus his d is pretty darn good.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
BJ upton would be a ridiculous CF to get
move Kemp to RF and Ethier to LF, but we’d then have to do something with the 5 IF positions to get some offense going.
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Think we could afford Beltre
even with Upton? Don’t know how much Upton would cost, so I don’t know.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Right now, unless Beltre is an actual option, I don’t see anyone but Blake starting more than 15 games at 3B this year. SS will be furcal, then likely Carroll when Rafy gets hurt, lol. 2B is really up for grabs. Catcher I think will be Martin and Barajas. 1B will be Loney unless we sign 1 power 1B, which I, unfortunately, don’t see happening.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'm not signing a dude
to an expensive contract due to potential and no accomplishments.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
looking at his stats
I am in no way impresses right now. I’ll assume he has a lot of potential with all the slobbering over him, but I don’t see it. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rosajo01.shtml
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Last 3 years
xFIP of 3.77, 3.91 and 4.06.
That’s legit.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Legit sure
but not so great us signing lilly over him is going to make me question any hope of competing next year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Same.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
De La Rosa is a better pitcher than Lilly.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Lilly
looked good in Dodger blue, I’m happy he’s signed back.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
The Dodgers didn’t even get a discount on years or salary on Ted Lilly. Ned isn’t going to sign De La Rosa without overpaying him.
I think you are assuming too much
Based on comments from several MSM it appears the market for Lilly would have been pretty good. Have to see how the rest of the market shakes out to see some other deals.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
With the ways teams are valuable their first round picks these days, there was going to be a penalty on salary for Lilly.
Not that big, especially with some teams with protected picks interested.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
shorter contracts
and more likely to pitch all season
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
They just signed 2 of the best pitchers on the market
you are being way overly pessimistic. They had 3 wholes in their rotation. Come on now.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
TCU’s O-line coach suffered a heart attack in the first half, but is apparently doing OK in a local hospital.
Oh wow that's not good.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Great horny toads!
that’s horrible, glad he’s ok
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It’s better he didn’t see the second half.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Wazzu 21, OSU 0 in the third quarter.
Up next for the Beavers: USC, Stanford, and Oregon.
They could finish a UCLA-like 4-8.
And Wazzu recovered an onside kick after the TD.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Double ouch...
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Ouch.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Washington State fumbled it away after the onside kick. Oregon State just scored a TD.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Why wouldn’t you? Riley’s proved quite competent over time. That doesn’t change with one poor season.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
After the Dodgers finish with Kuroda and Barajas
I think the 40-man roster will be finalized and then we can see what will happen with the offense.
I doubt Barajas signs before December 2
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Ahh, that tough SEC defense
Auburn’s lead was short-lived.
And then
the big play action end around…AGAIN, for the third time. Except the first time was a penalty. Man, how overrated are SEC defenses and teams, for that matter, this year? I can’t believe both South Carolina and especially Florida are still ranked!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Tonight's fight
Is scheduled for 6 pacific, but what time will the main event actually start?
by LA Taco on Nov 13, 2010 3:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Depends how long it takes Margarito to load his gloves with cinder blocks.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Afraid not. My buddy who usually splits these pay per view fights with me is out of town and I had plans tonight…
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
So much for that Civil War upset hope. It’s on you, Josie!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Gone through the thread
And frankly, I don’t understand the reason for either optimism or pessimism about this signing. It is a good signing, but it is entirely expected. It is a good thing that it is happening, but it does not increase or decrease the Dodgers’ chances of success.
The Dodgers imploded in 2010 because of their offense. If Ethier and Kemp are good (and everybody else isn’t too bad), then the Dodgers can win, and if they are bad (and/or everybody else is bad) they will likely struggle.
So good on the Dodgers for signing a pitcher who can put them in a position to win IF the offense comes around, but my 2011 glass of gin is still half-empty until I see either (a) the offense come around or (b) somebody huge getting signed.
Now with 33% more Kavula
I will drink to that
though right now, at a comparable time, this team isn’t far too different than the incoming 2010 Giants
except we don't have Buster Posey
knocking on the door :( …though the Japanese Ryan Theriot wants to be a Dodger!
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To be the 2010 Giants, the Dodgers will need:
-Veterans off the scrap heap who had several down years before play at or near the career best.
-The best pitching staff in the majors.
- A shut down closer that doesn’t break down.
- A GM that actually picks up players on the waiver wire instead of sitting on his hands.
- Pray that all the bad moves that the GM made are either injured or somehow out of the way, and then make better deals.
The Dodgers picked up players off the waiver wire. We just didn’t like any of them.
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Luckily just 1 year before this one the Dodgers DID have the best pitching staff in baseball
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Let's get Pat Burrell.
He’ll get us to the playoffs but instead of waiting until it’s too late, we can bench him for the playoffs.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Don't forget animal sacrifices/Santeria ritual
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those are basically my thoughts
I expect our offense to bounce back enough to let us compete with the awesome pitching we are gonna have.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
But the bullpen...?
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Whose to say
that Broxton doesn’t bounce back, Belisario is better.
The bullpen is less worrisome than other areas
Okay, convinced.
I’m 100% certain Belisario will be better on top of Kuo and Jansen. Honestly, my biggest worry is Broxton. He took a beating in the second half…
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
toe thing?
wasn’t as bad, but he had some struggles
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
The toe injury was in July
In August/September 2009, Broxton had a 2.22 ERA, with 9 BB / 40 K in 28.1 IP.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Did he?
I don’t remember that. And if he did, it couldn’t possibly be worse than last year. His ERA was below 1.00 before that dreadful Yankees game that ruined him…
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Lot of ifs
If Broxton bounces back
If Kuo stays healthy
If Jansen’s body recovers from his first full year of pitching
If Belisario can get to camp on time and/or stay sober (allegedly)
If Troncoso isn’t done
If Elbert can find something to contribute
But the upside is there at least.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds good to me.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I want you to be right about the offense but I wish I had your confidence. I remember too many awful at-bats in the second half.
I’ll put it this way: I think they can bounce back, but if they don’t, I won’t be surprised, and even if they do bounce back, I’m not sure it’ll be enough.
Assuming none of the TBLA Big Four are signed, and assuming Theriot and Loney are tendered contracts, I’d guess 81 wins: some things go right, others go wrong, and they are mediocre.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 13, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
High side being 85 wins (with Kemp/Martin bouncebacks….starters staying healthy).
Low side being 74 wins (with no improvements from offense and Lilly/Kuroda showing age)
We can still beat up on the west next year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
If I was doing divisional prognostications for NL West right now...
Giants – 91-71
Rockies- 84-78
Dodgers – 81-81
Padres – 78-84
Dbax – 75-87
Giants are gonna have to hope that half of their offense
doesn’t regress next year, or leave in free agency.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
nope
you can already conclude that we aren’t going to do anything and will suck next year based on signing lilly and kuroda. Its science.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
mechanically separated prognostications
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by Pure Azure on Nov 13, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Given Frank McCourt's history of payroll..
Dont think its premature thinking to believe the Dodgers wont sign the Big 4….and that there’s not much other movement out there that could change the team.
you mean his history of okaying the signing of the best possible free agents? Jason Schmidt, Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre may not have worked out, but the fact that they were signed as top free agents still stands.
I may need to take a bit of time off of TBLA. This negativity is killing me.
How the hell do you make guesses as to the strength of the division when you just spent a whole year watching the Dodgers suck, the Padres win, and the Giants win the World Series, yet you have them as the only 90 win team and only two teams above .500?
Do you even watch baseball? Should I start referring to you as Ken Rosenthal? a little quick on the trigger there, Ken.
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by G.Scott on Nov 13, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fire Frank McCourt!! He spends no money on the team and is only interested in his mansions. We have no offense and two of our starting pitchers were born before Star Wars came out!!! Our team sucks and we’ll be lucky to be .500 next year.
P.S. Trade Loney for Pujols, we need Albert in LA!!!!!!!!!
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by Pure Azure on Nov 13, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL TRADE LONEY FOR PUJOLS?!
Who the fuck does that guy think Pujols is?
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
he’s getting buzzed more than a grunt at basic training, or Mickey Mantle in spring training. Hey-oooo!
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The sound would make it better. It’s the sound of a joke whooshing over his head.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
But it's Jeff Dunham
Where would the joke be? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
damn, I can see some idiot say that.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
McCourt did up the payroll when he signed those 3...
However, its been a decline since then.
I just dont see the Dodgers going from a 90mils dollar payroll all the way up to 120mils…
I have the Giants as the 90 plus win team bc their starting pitching is still in its prime.
I think the Padres regress bc they hit the middle relief lottery last year…and its not likely they get lucky twice in a row…likewise they have limited payroll to improve their team.
You’re correct. The Dodgers sucked last year.
You probably should take some time off if negativity bothers you..bc there’s going to be negativity around the Dodgers until they improve the offense thru free agents or Sands/Robinson get to LA and contribute.
You also have to realize that the prospects we haven’t aren’t Mike Stanton. They aren’t Jason Heyward. They aren’t going to hit the ground running, and even if they come in hot, they’re simply not the Mike Trout’s of MLB. They could help, but they’ll likely be just as good as whatever we could sign for a couple million dollars.
My only point was that it is equally rational to be optimistic as it is pessimistic. No one has any idea what the league will look like tomorrow let alone in April or October of next season. To think you can peg what the following season’s records will be for a single team, let alone an entire division, before their rosters are even set is ridiculous.
Last thing. You don’t hit the middle reliever lottery. Middle relievers are somewhere between the 21-25th most important players on a roster. They have impact, but you don’t win 90 games because you have a good 6th inning reliever and LOOGY. They played great defense and had superb starting pitching for the majority of the year. They just did exactly what they should do: flip middle relievers for position players. I wish we could trade Belisario and Trancoso for Austin Jackson, but it just isn’t happening.
Wait until April to see what you think about this team. And even then, wait until May, June, July, August, September and October. It’s going to be a fun ride, and I’d hate for you to miss the bus.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
by G.Scott on Nov 13, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Uhhh
The Dodgers didn’t actually suck, they were right around .500, that seems about average to me, and average does not suck. We aren’t Yankee fans over here, expecting a WS every year because they can outspend the average payroll by more than 2 times.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Dodgers didn’t have a $90 million payroll last year.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Cots had it as 102mils but it included 14mils of payroll to players not on the roster.
I didnt include that in my figure.
The talent level (as in players on the team) was around 90mils.
Cot's is wrong
Also, it goes both ways. If you count the dead money going out, then you should also count all of Manny’s salary ($20 million, less his final month with the White Sox) rather than just the amount he was paid in 2010.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I believe Eric had it at 83 mill with just players on the roster for 2010
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Also, how the hell do we know what the movement is like? We just guess based on the information provided by people trying to sell papers. Even then, they probably hear about .00001% of the conversations that go on between GMs, scouts and baseball people. If every phone call got it’s own media frenzy, we’d a) go crazy, b) have the entire league full of players shitting themselves wondering where they’ll live next year, c) hate the GM and love him the next day everyday and d) have even less of a clue what is going on than we already do.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
Not if you dont think there’s going to be much movement in free agency.
Rockies, Dodgers, Padres look to bring back mostly the same team.
Giants offenses pieces may change a bit…but they still got Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Sanchez…with a full year of Posey.
Not sure what the Dbax will look like but they’ll probably suck given their payroll.
Look at the numbers posted
comparing our 4 pitchers who we will be bringing back next year, compared to what the giants starters did. Other then Posey none of the Giants hitters impress me much at all, and I expect many of them to go back to being mediocre, or simply crap.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
so?
are you assuming lilly and kuroda are going to break down next year?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
bumgarner could struggle next year
timmy boy wasn’t very good in the regular season last year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
obviously relative to what timmy normally puts up
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
My point
is that we have no idea what trade opportunities will arise, plus spring training is another important chapter with surprises, injuries, etc. I think prognosticating now is a waste of energy, but hey, it’s not my energy.
I think it’s safe to assume that the Pads and Giants will regress next year based on lucky years in 2010, but if I have no idea who is coming in or going out the door, it’s all just throwing darts at this point.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
dbacks
They just signed Geoff Blum. Talk about an impact bat!
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 13, 2010 3:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm basing this on 08 and 09
our entire offense just fell of a cliff in the 2nd half. There is plenty of reason to expect Kemp and Loney to bounce back.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
kemp maybe less so then loney
but I still think he’ll be better
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Aki Iwamura
is apparently <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.sanspo.com/baseball/news/101114/bsh1011140506000-n1.htm&ei=Eh7fTNzEOY-gsQOxz9TkCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sanspo.com/baseball/news/101114/bsh1011140506000-n1.htm%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Div" target="new">going back to Japan.
Indeed.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Imagine 1997 you reading that comment!
by Michael White on Nov 13, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I can't beleive Oregon State...
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
The Pac-10 will likely have just three bowl eligible teams this year: Oregon, Stanford, and Arizona.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl will likely go hungry.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
USC :(((((((((
WHY REGGIE, WHYYYYYYYYY?!
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Cleaning out my old boxes
ye olde folk will be pleased to know I found a bike pump, some cassette tapes, a phone line I used to use to hook up dial-up, and a Donkey Kong strategy guide.
Also found my NLI, so that was pretty cool.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
Eww
found a team award I got at the end of the year banquet for high school baseball that listed me as “Most Improved”. I remember the coach saying something like, “usually you give this to the worst guy on the team, but Gary really stepped up…” whatever. Thanks, Coach.
Turned out I was one of only two on that team to do anything in baseball, so booya. Other dude played at UCSB and in Low-A so can’t complain.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
and a ticket stub to this game
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN200409300.shtml
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
You just want to make people nostalgic for David Ross don’t you?
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
That does it, i can never work in baseball
on my player profile in college, I apparently listed Pete Rose as my biggest sports hero.
Life: If you aren't pissing people off, you aren't doing it right.
Hahaha
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Cal gets a 9 on the awfulness scale. 10 being most awful.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Josie's game
is up.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 13, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions
I’m pretty sure the Burger King commercial implied the girl was going to have sex with the dad instead of the teenager.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
a tangled web indeed
is the Whopper family
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 13, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
All I know is ketchup and mayonnaise would get everywhere.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I will happily lose
if Cal can somehow win. Alabama is beating Aurburn so they’ll take care of their part. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone know if the Big West men's soccer final tonight is on TV anywhere?
It’s Fullerton St at UCSB, at 7.
Online somewhere I’m sure, at least radio…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Big West Conference’s web page suggests you follow the match by following their Twitter feed.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I saw that.
Can’t tell you how excited that makes me! For a 2-1 final that’ll be at least 3 tweets!
and yeah thanks BH, see that it’s on radio online… oh well, I was hopeful since they’d shown the UCSB Duke game a couple of weeks ago on Fox Soccer Channel.
I can also listen to the scintillating UCSB-North Dakota St game (from Eugene Oregon) online too!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I follow Everton matches on Twitter and they give quite a few updates. Not just goals.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 13, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
I think the problem is if you move him to 1B, he’s overpaid for that position, or will be a couple of years in.
And if there’s one thing we don’t want, it’s an overpaid first baseman.
Insert Loney, a la Milhouse: “That job is taken!”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 13, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Right
The deferred money has nothing to do with the GM, despite the inner-workings of Tripon’s mind.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Frank’s money was still good in 06 and 07 too, but Ned still liked to defer money to years where players weren’t on the team. Nomar, Jason Schidmt, and Luis Gonzales all had deferred money in their contracts.
I hear Oliver Stone movies are fun to watch
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
“Deferred Money Never Sleeps?”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 13, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
“Born on the Fourth of July, So This is Only My Age 23 Season, Not Age 24?”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 13, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“Natural Born Dodgers?”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 13, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
RJM: Russell J Martin
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
No one's mentioned next season's PLATOON at 1st base?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Nov 13, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, what about Furcal getting a $4 million bonus paid in 2009 in his original deal as well?
I don’t think its a stretch to say that Ned tends to defer money in contracts. He likes the initial flexibility it gave him in payroll construction.
Budgets tend to create that need at times.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not Ned “liking” it. It’s Frank allowing Ned to go over a limited current budget by deferring. It’s Frank “liking” it as a solution to budget restrictions – as long as it can last. (There’s a limit to deferred amounts too,)
There’s nothing wrong from the Dodgers standpoint of deferring money as long as there’s no inflation/interest rate thing calculated into the future payments.
I’m surprised players are willing to defer money…given that the US dollar is becoming more and more devalued..
Said that all week.
But that really made myself believe the upset was coming :( what a shame.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Wouldn't have mattered
Oregon was in chip shot range at the end anyway when they knelt to end the game.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think the game would have been much different had Cal scored.
Of course, I’m just speculating, but the momentum would have been out of this world.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
There needs to be a 24hour fitness app that shows average time in-use by every machine and how many people are in the building at the time compared to the average amount.
Then I’d be more motivated to go there. As of now, I just assume it’s packed.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
If it’s any consolation, I am really close to a 24 that is never packed and I’m still a lazy fuck.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 13, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know if this was posted yet.
Dylan Hernandez
@dylanohernandez Dylan Hernandez
I’m told Davey Lopes is close to joining the #Dodgers’ coaching staff.
Don't know if this was posted yet.
Dylan Hernandez
@dylanohernandez Dylan Hernandez
I’m told Davey Lopes is close to joining the #Dodgers’ coaching staff.
LOL
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Furcal selling his house
I happened on a note in the Homes section of today’s LA Times that Rafael Furcal is selling his house. I wonder where he’s moving to. He’s put it on the market at $4,449,000. I’m sort of amazed that people list things of that sort of value at “5¢ off”, like Costco, as if that’s really going to attract more buyers, especially given that buyers are going to make counter-offers anyway. If I were a zillionaire in the market for his house, I’d offer $1,099,999.95 or something like that.
It's to make sure you show up in searches
of homes at $4.5M or less. Buyers tend to search at their budget figure, which tends to be a round number, and less, so you always want to list just under a typical threshold. If you think your home is worth around $500,000, you want to list at $499,000, not $500,000.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 14, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'll
say this. USC may win the rest of their games but for the foreseeable future, few games will be an automatic win and there has been a combination of them falling back into the pack of Pac-10 and some teams matching their athleticism. UCLA is not there yet and may never get there.
But I will appreciate the lack of arrogance of USC fans in this town.
My comment was purely for the “Hello Kiffin” crowd.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 13, 2010 9:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Couldnt USC get a better coach than Lane Kiffin though?
He doesnt have much experience.
And supposedly his best trait is recruiting….but at a school with the tradition of USC it recruits itself.
Not necessarily true.
USC was not recruiting well before Pete Carroll came in and dominated California as well as snatching some of the best out-of-state recruits. In a time with a bowl ban and scholarship reductions, you NEED a good recruiter/ talent evaluator. Lane’s best trait is recruiting, but don’t take that as he’s bad at anything else. He’s almost as good of an offensive coach than he is a recruiter. Our problem is the lack of depth and I really do not think that Monte Kiffin’s defense works in college. But I do love the staff that Lane brought, another plus for hiring.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Hm...
PPG since ’06:
06- 30.5
07- 32.6
08- 37.5
09- 26.5
10- 36.4
’08 stat could be inflated because the Washington schools sucked. But all in all, Kiffin has improved the offense quite well.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 13, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yup.
Jeremy Bates would have completely stunted Barkley’s growth. That shit don’t work in college, fool! I’m tired of horribly dropped passes turning into picks though. That’s the second game in a row… I’m looking at you, Ausberry and Cameron.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Everything else*
as he is a recruiter*
Man I suck.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Its not an optical illusion that Margarito looks alot bigger than Pac-Man.
HBO says he’s 17 pounds heavier.
But apparently Pac-Man is winning the fight easily.
Pac-man is easily winning on points, but Margarito’s getting a lot of good shots at him.
Margarito can only win b KO, but that’s still a good possibility.
my neighbor is having a fight watching party
but i had to come back home to finishing baking homemade cinnamon buns for my wife. i’m a catch.
Howard Sunkin, the Dodgers executive whose salary from the team’s charitable foundation has drawn scrutiny from the California attorney general, has been assigned to oversee the team’s community relations.
T.J. Simers
I also like Ross Porter. Maybe it’s because he feels like family, that quirky uncle who is everyone’s favorite.
He’s a character, an original, and I like that. Yet it’s as if he never changes. The voice certainly doesn’t. He has lived in the same house for 33 years, been with the same woman for 49 years, and had the same job for 28 years.
Then Frank McCourt comes along, so many people losing their jobs, including Ross, one of the radio play-by-play voices of the Dodgers and host of Dodger Talk.
That’s six years ago, everything downhill for McCourt these days while Ross is just Ross, doing one-minute feel-good vignettes, “Real Sports Heroes,” on more than 70 radio stations.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers-20101114,0,2107264.column
I really, really disliked Ross Porter and I think, once again, T.J. Simers is reaching.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
I never liked him either
but I now think I’d rather have Porter than Steiner/Monday
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Trade Candidates
I was just reading some stuff on players who could be traded due to certain situations on their currents teams, either money problems or chemistry problems or whatever else, and there are 3 I would just love to look into: Gordon Beckham, Colby Rasmus, and BJ Upton. I’m guessing Rasmus would be the toughest to trade for, as he is coming off of a very nice offensive season as a CF, though his fielding was down from the year before. BJ Upton had an average fielding year according to fangraphs.com, but his offense was resurgent a bit from his dissapointing 2009 season. Then Gordon Beckham should still have a ton of potential, and I’m not sure if he can stick at 2b, but his stock should be down after the pretty bad year he had this year, and apparently he is available.
If we are indeed resigning Kuroda, then 4/5 of the rotation will be complete, and I’d expect either signing Padilla if he will come cheeply, or just maybe a competition between Ely, maybe Elbert going back to a starter (anything can happen, right?), or NRIs signed like the last 2 offseasons. That means that the focus will now shift to the offense, where we will need at least 1 outfielder (likely a LF), then decide if we keep Theriot or find a replacement, decide whether we stick it out with Loney or trade him and get a more powerful option, and if we (longshot I’m sure) sign Beltre and do something else with Blake.
Now I really don’t have much of an idea what it would take or what exactly the teams would be looking for, but i think it would be a gem of an offseason if we could make a trade for both Gordon Beckham and BJ Upton to solidify the offense. Though I don’t think it would happen, it would be great if Upton could take CF, Kemp take RF, and Ethier take LF, then stick Gordon at 2B and the starters are all in place for 2011. It’s still not going to be the most powerful of teams, but the rotation is going to be very good if healthy, the bullpen should be very good again with a bounce back from Broxton and one of Tron or Belasario, both would be great, and the defense with these two new arrivals plus Ethier going to LF and Kemp going to RF would be pretty good.
Who knows if the Dodgers would even match up with the White Sox, but with Konerko leaving to FA, they do need a 1B. The obvious answer to everything in here is to trade Loney, but maybe no other GM even wants Loney, and after his 2nd half why should they? But if they were intrigued enough by his great hitting in the first half and his very good 1B defense, teams just may take a shot on him, and getting him out of Dodger Stadium is sure to improve his offensive numbers anyway. Though by trading Loney we would have to sign a 1B or make another trade for one, but it’s something I would be fine with. My guess to a trade involving Loney for Beckham would be:
Loney and Webster/Martin/Rubby for Beckham
Kenny might want to go for the hot hand in Rubby, or the polish of Webster, or take a shot on the upside of Martin. I, personally, would be willing to make this deal if we could find a decent replacement at 1B after doing this deal.
As for Upton, apparently the Rays will not need to be swept off their feet to trade him, so it makes it a bit easier to trade for him, though again, not sure what type of player it would take to get him. The Rays are obviously a team built to win now AND for the future, but with the departure of Crawford, Pena, and Soriano, they might be much further away from winning than they have for a few years. The Dodgers don’t have anything really MLB ready that they could send to the Rays in terms of SP or position players, but the Rays might be interested in some RP help plus a prospect or two. One thing that might even be worth a thought is trading Broxton plus maybe about 2-3 million straight up for Upton, as they will need a new closer with Soriano leaving, and the money sent over would cover the cost for Broxton’s larger contract than Upton’s. That said, when is the last time the Dodgers sent money in a deal to another team that wasn’t Rod Barajas, lol. Either way, my proposal is:
Broxton plus 2-3 milliion for BJ Upton
It may take a lower level prospect on our end (possibly), but I’d be fine with sending someone who is outside of our top 15 prospects (and there are some decent ones left still) along with Broxton. Not only would trading Broxton make the Dodgers have to pay less in terms of prospects for Upton, it would free up some money to sign or trade for another 1B to replace Loney if we were to trade for Beckham as well, because almost no money would be freed up if we just traded prospects for Upton.
Well, those are my 3 AM ramblings and thoughts on trade targets I want to see on the Dodgers. I’m looking forward to seeing if I am too sleep deprived to have made any real sense at all, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Holy crap this is longer than I intended
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
FANPOST TIME BABY
DO IT. DO IT. DO IT. DO IT.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
YOu didn’t give us what you thought it would take to land Rasmus.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
I don't think we can get him
So I didn’t try.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I saw a short in the Times today
from Dylan saying they are close to bringing Lopes in to coach first.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Don’t know if that was posted yet.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
by G.Scott on Nov 14, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
saw that late late late last night
Exciting if true.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Kuroda/Lilly
Atleast the Dodgers have repaired the hole on the starboard side of the ship, now to tend to the gaping hole still left over from the second half of last year on the port side of the ship. I’ve got some extra duct tape in the garage.
That hell is this @!*^&#@%
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
You caught me
I’m actually an anthropologist sent to study you apes.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
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