2010 SB Nation NL Cy Young Award: Roy Halladay Wins, Kershaw 9th
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 7:01 AM PST
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PrintRoy Halladay adjusted to the National League just fine in 2010, and as a result he easily won the SB Nation National League Cy Young Award, capturing all 33 first place votes. The points were awarded on a 7-4-3-2-1 basis this year, the first year with expanded ballots including five players instead of three, just like the BBWAA. Clayton Kershaw of the Dodgers received three fifth-place votes, finishing ninth overall. Here are the results:
| Rk | Player | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Roy Halladay |
Philadelphia Phillies | 33 | - | - | - | - | 231 |
| 2 | Adam Wainwright | St. Louis Cardinals | - | 16 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 101 |
| 3 | Ubaldo Jimenez | Colorado Rockies | - | 8 | 16 | 5 | 1 | 91 |
| 4 | Josh Johnson |
Florida Marlins |
- | 7 | 9 | 9 | 5 | 78 |
| 5 | Tim Lincecum |
San Francisco Giants |
- | 2 | 2 | 4 | 8 | 30 |
| 6 | Tim Hudson |
Atlanta Braves |
- | - | - | 2 | 5 | 9 |
| 7 | Mat Latos |
San Diego Padres |
- | - | 1 | 2 | 1 | 8 |
| 8 | Roy Oswalt |
Astros / Phillies |
- | - | - | 1 | 4 | 6 |
| 9 | Clayton Kershaw |
Los Angeles Dodgers |
- | - | - | - | 3 | 3 |
| 10 | Cole Hamels |
Philadelphia Phillies | - | - | - | - | 2 | 2 |
| t11 | Carlos Marmol |
Chicago Cubs |
- | - | - | - | 1 | 1 |
| t11 | Jaime Garcia |
St. Louis Cardinals | - | - | - | - | 1 | 1 |
- My ballot: Halladay, Jimenez, Wainwright, Johnson, Kershaw
- Phil Gurnee's ballot: Halladay, Wainwright, Jimenez, Johnson, Kershaw
The real NL Cy Young Award, given out by the Baseball Writers Association of America, also went to Halladay, and also unanimously.
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Wonder where Kid K will finish in the real balloting today
Probably about the same if I had to guess…
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Crazy
that a 20 win 2.42ERA season wasn’t good enough.
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Wainwright can cry in his white towels.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 7:59 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Holiday grimaces every time he sees a white towel waving in a circular fashion.
by RawhideBlue on Nov 16, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
just cause I love posting this picture
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 16, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
because
even though we like to make fun of other teams not selling out for playoff games, neither did we.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
they shoulda held Star Wars night, always can fill 302 on Star Wars night
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
9th inning
Dodgers were down, some people (jackwads) left early. I remember my brother was pissed about it. Sucks for them, they witnessed one of the best comebacks in Dodger history.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
An empty 302 section is not
because anyone left early, it is because they did not sell the tickets. The corner sections of the reserve are always the last seats to sell.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
you’re probably right, I could have sworn there were people in those seats though.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I may have flubbed with 302, aren’t 300, 301 and 302 behind the plate, and then it extends out odds and evens.
It’s Big Phone that has 302 on the end. I am ashamed
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s not my fault DS numbering system makes no sense whatsoever.
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Odds in LF, evens in RF.
Other than that, it has the haphazard numbering system of restaurants.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
or apartment complexes
man, apartment complexes have the worst numbering systems in the world, AND will actively try to make the numbers on the buildings hard to find.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
There's a building on the Berkeley campus
was built in two different phases with two different numbering systems, so you enter and face 155 on floor D, walk right and are on floor C room 3650
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I wish that was unusual
but I am honestly in no way surprised. The worst is when there are individual streets in a complex, and they smush together and share numbers, so if you aren’t careful you can easily end up at the wrong house on the wrong street.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Sure
but we know what you meant, why are the fans in the corner reserve dressed like empty seats
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
mid week-weird start time-not a snuggie give away game
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
I’ma gonna have to remember to bring Harry Potter to snuggie night
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Josie
what have we told you about kidnapping British boys?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
that as long as they don’t have a claim to the throne it’s fine?
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
that
and make sure you have enough warm ale, bangers and mash, and crumpets to sustain them.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Oy
sausage and mashed potatoes is a fine meal, and crumpets go well with the tea they do, but biscuits are better. I don’t need to go shopping to host a brit
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
no
i imagine you could write a lovely leaflet on the subject. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
when
are they gonna have Mattingly Moustache night? Ned has signed off on it, according to sources.
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What's tantalizing about watching Wainwright
Is that he is basically Billz, except with better command.
2300 comments yesterday
230 today.
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I have not seen that since a Raider-Falcon game in 2000
by delias man on Nov 16, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I have not seen that since Saturday night, if two Georgia fans going at it behind a bush at Auburn First Methodist Church qualifies as a bathroom.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 16, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
They ain’t called the dawgs for nuthin’.
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
By 52 different commenters.
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Realistic Trade Destinations for Loney
If we can put any substance into the report they are trying to trade him and upgrade at 1st with the available free agents.
NL – West – No
NL – Central:
Houston – do they view Wallace as the solution? if so then no, but he has looked crappy so they might be looking for an upgrade
Chicago – the ever present Gorzelanny rumor but I think I’d rather have Sean Marshall
NL East:
Nationals – no bats available, nor is Zimmerman, Storen?
AL West
Texas – depends how they view Moreland but probably not
AL Central
White Sox if Konerko departs they could use him. Straight Loney – Quentin?
AL East
Rays – Loney for Zobrist, they have a plethora of 2nd baseman and Zobrist simply doesn’t hit enough to be an outfielder.
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I like your ideas
I’ve been thinking about this all off-season, and it doesn’t seem like there is any fit other than the Chicago teams and the Rays.
I really like the idea of Loney to the Rays. Loney straight up for Zobrist seems pretty good or Loney plus for Upton. Both are equally good in my opinion.
How is Zobrist defensively as a 2B? If he even has a little bounce back, he could easily put up a mid .700s OPS which would be pretty valuable.
Sounds like a pretty good idea. Zobrist may cost a little more next season, but he is signed to a pretty decent long term contract.
The Rays have a problem
Three 2nd baseman:
Zobrist, Brignac, Sean Rodriquez
Of those three Zobrist was playing in the outfield quite a bit in 2010 because he can play anywhere. Brignac or Sean will be the starting 2nd baseman in 2011maybe as a platoon. Leaving Zobrist to be an outfielder except he does not hit enough to be an outfielder on a team where BJ Upton/Desmond Jenning/Joyce are the other three outfielders. They need a 1st baseman who is not terribly expensive. We need a 2nd baseman and Zobrist fits the mold.
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If Zobrist doesn’t hit enough to be an outfielder, couldn’t the same be said for Loney as a first baseman? If we want to raid the Rays, shouldn’t we just sign Pena?
Fair enough. They might be drawn to his defense as well. I guess I’m still thinking of the 2009 version of Zobrist, when he was like #1 in WAR.
Right, Zobrist had a monster 09 and then a considerable drop off last season. In reality he is probably somewhere in between, probably something like .270/.350/.450.
The other positive is that the clubhouse attendant probably has a leftover Z from Pablo Ozuna’s jersey.
Luis Maza, forgotten so soon?
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 16, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
Zobrist would be an excellent get
how is his defense? I have a hunch Ned will sign Konerko, I don’t know what he’d command (2/25?) but I can def see it happening.
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Zobrists defense is great. Trading him for Loney won’t happen.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
The White Sox or Rays seem most likely to me too, but I’ll beat this dead horse one more time, I can imagine that crappy Houston management thinking a local kid at first is a way to sell tickets.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 16, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Of course, that is a given isn't it?
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an inevitebility
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Seems like a big drop-off after “2.” Ned might as well keep Loney.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 16, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Konerko and Pena are out there too for big power. Lee, I think, is probably a good bet to have a nice season next year and he will probably only require a 1 year contract to bring him in.
Forgot about Konerko. Just can’t get excited about Berkman.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 16, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Why the love for Gorzelanny around here?
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Not love, realism
He provides more value than Loney, and is a realistic target should Loney be traded.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Already have Zambrano, Wells, Dempster and Silva. The Cubs also seemed to do everything they could do not use him last year.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
I am kinda wondering the same, besides we already have two lefties in the rotation, I don’t see us going with three.
Why not?
On having more lefties than righties?
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Houston would be intriguing destination for him
given it’s his hometown. Who would be good player(s) from Astros in exchange for him though?
I really want the Dodgers to upgrade on offense, and as pointed out here, whatever Loney’s problems, after Dunn there’s a dropoff, and after Lee even more so. They could instead upgrade at 3rd and have Blake at 1st, though I’m not convinced Blake will be that much of an upgrade on offense at 1b over Loney next season.
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Other options
Loney made $3.1 million last season and this is his second season with arbitration eligibility. That leaves age as the only conceivable advantage Loney holds over the various free agent options. Lyle Overbay, Adam LaRoche, Adam Dunn, Carlos Pena, Paul Konerko, Aubrey Huff, Derrek Lee, Lance Berkman, and quasi-first basemen like Nick Johnson, Lance Berkman, Troy Glaus, and Russell Branyan are on the open market. There are only so many seats available and any team willing to wait out the market will likely find themselves a bargain deal.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/loneys-trade-value/
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
I do worry about that
Huff was great this year, and maybe he’ll be great in 2011 too. But I can’t see him duplicating it much more, or worth whatever salary he’ll be offered. Don’t dislike him though.
Konerko we can’t afford, Dodgers won’t have him return to LA til he’s 41 :-/
Johnson is too injury prone, used to like him, like 5 years ago. There’s a lot of Meh there after Dunn.
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Yes, but it’s cheaper “meh” than Loney who is arguably the worst offensive first baseman in the NL.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
The ones who are cheaper and healthier "mehs"
I agree. Still, would help if they also could then upgrade either LF or 1B too.
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I’d prefer if the Mehs play in New York.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Which also begs the question
with so many 1st base options if Ned gets real value for Loney, it will go along his Milton deal when he was forced to trade him and then did a brilliant job in doing so.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Even that Milton
was not a trade
was not a bust
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
BTW
There is a new epsiode of Prime 9 tonight on MLB Network, and they rank the best infields of all-time. The 1977 Dodgers infield will be featured.
Other infields to be featured include the 1913 Athletics,1927 Giants, 1934 Tigers, and 1982 Brewers
The 2003 Dodger infield will not be featured. At all.
I thought the
1B-Hee Seop Choi
2B-Jeff Kent
3B-Mike Edwards
SS-Cesar Izturis
team should get some run….
Guess not
Are you allowed to trade the deed to Dodger Stadium?
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
The Upton brothers if they don't turn things around
will be two of most overhyped talents in the 21st century.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Chad Billingsley, Andre Ethier, and James Loney. Kevin Towers seems like a man who would covet players with low strikeout rates and high contact rates.
Kershaw will probably get more in the future. Does that make him tradeable?
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
The top four were no doubters
After that, the is quite a cluster. We didn’t leave off the should-be winner for our local guy.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I thought it funny
we both went with Clayton for number five without talking to each other. I looked at Cain I looked at Clayton and picked our guy but as you said the five spot was crowded.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I'm much more interested in how the MVP vote
plays out from 3 – 10 since we were able to go 10 deep.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
We should coordinate before next Monday
Because our MVP ballots have some differences.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Shocking
but I expect our 1 / 2 are the same but maybe not.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
We do have the same players in the top two spots, yes. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Kershaw vs. the non top 4
Excluding Marmol, because that was a terrible vote…
WAR (Fangraphs)
Lincecum 5.1
Kershaw 4.8
Oswalt 4.7
Latos 4.0
Hamels 3.8
Garcia 3.2
Hudson 2.7
WAR (Baseball-Reference)
Hudson 5.4
Oswalt 5.1
Hamels 4.7
Kershaw 4.4
Lincecum 3.5
Latos 3.3
Garcia 2.8
WAR (average of the two)
Oswalt 4.9
Kershaw 4.6
Lincecum 4.3
Hamels 4.25
Hudson 4.05
Latos 3.65
Garcia 3.0
ERA+
Garcia 145
Oswalt 143
Hudson 138
Kershaw 132
Hamels 132
Latos 126
Lincecum 119
Kershaw does just fine in comparison with everyone else for the 5th spot.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Does
b-r ballpark adjust their WAR and fangraphs doesn’t? Or what other explanation might there be for some of those big discrepancies, like Hudson?
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
If you like the Onion
Sam Bowie
is still looking for a missing piece of his leg
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and his talents
to south beach?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
and it ain’t green.
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome!
Now I’m disappointed I didn’t get quoted in the Loney trade value article
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
just means
he hasn’t gone all “mainstream” on us yet.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
If Fangraphs is mainstream now
I got some url’s in Florida I want to sell you
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Its all relative Jocelyn
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Jocelyn is not very intimidating
and at what age did you get Josie as the nickname or did you just pin it on yourself? Are all Josie’s from Jocelyn?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
pretty much as soon as
my parents realized none of my cousins could say Jocelyn, which was around 4 when there were enough of us and we were all talking. Then once I was rockn it just stuck.
I’d say 75% of Josie’s are Josephine, the other 25% Jocelyn
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Josie? You're a madam now?
oh, wait, there’s no “G” in that word…..nevermind.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I am Russia. I get you gurl no problem, low price
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
the mentioned Magglio, I still think that could be good on a one year deal, provided it’s not for too much.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Good for Dave
interesting that he looks at two left handed hitters from the farm for LF but does not even mention Sands who was voted the best LF in the minors by BA.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
not Matt Kemp?
Hooray!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Blame Game
moves fast
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Can I blame him if we don’t sign an outfielder because we have Xavier Paul?
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Technical note
It was actually John Moses’ fault. Everything is OK now though, since he got shit-canned!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
That's right
I need to keep that straight as it enters the Dutch Rudderfied strata of recurring TBLA jokes.
Like
Johnson, Nathan R., I am now somebody?
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm
Last week David Young … came away with the obvious observation:
That seems like possibly a left-handed compliment, the “obvious observation”, but I am probably just being too sensitive. It is cool to know that others out there are reading this stuff.
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
That David Young: he sure has a knack for the obvious.
I wouldn’t take it negatively. It was more a poor choice of words on the writer’s part.
I’m just glad they picked a sentence that I actually spent a little time putting together, though I’m still not certain that “Bostonian tradewinds” makes any sense.
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One of the contract’s most significant points is a payment due this offseason, when the Redskins must decide whether or not to pay McNabb a $10 million option bonus. If they do, it would trigger the rest of the contract and make Washington liable for McNabb’s $2.5 million base salary in 2011.
If they don’t, then McNabb would stand to cash in. McNabb then would get to become an unrestricted free agent at a time when multiple teams will be looking to upgrade their quarterback, the position that commands the game’s priciest salaries.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5812371
….So its basically a 4 year team option for McNabb?
Miguel Tejada
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
That's pretty good
Has the undeserved MVP, some postseason run but no rings. This is the leader in the clubhouse.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Intriguing question
My brain is spinning right now (that can’t be healthy)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
what more
do we need? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Livan didn’t throw up in the World Series.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
sounds like
a Chuck Norris fact.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
depending on how it plays out
Renteria.
I hope the Dodgers aren’t the equivalent of the Redskins.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
He may not be what he once was
but considering how few even decent QBs there are in the nfl…
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think it has to be a pitcher though, to get the rarity of the QB in there. Who’s still pitching way past their prime, always considered good but never winning a championship. They should also have a relationship with one particular city….hmmm………Eric Gagne
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Although he won championships
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Scott Rolen also gives you the booed out of Philly factor.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I think this might be the winner. Although Rolen is very good, and probably underrated, whereas McNabb is overrated.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Rolen also played in boondocks for most of his career. Only when he was playing for St. Louis was when he was playing for a consistent winner.
His Phillies days were before they started going to the playoffs, and playing for the Blue Jays means going for 4th place most years.
NcNabb always has a good team around him.
Maybe
the Boondocks comic strip is based out of Philly
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Considering they spent 12 years never making the playoffs during Scott Rolen’s time there. Yes.
And the Phillies averaged finishing 3rd out of 5th during that playoff drought span.
He was there from 96 to 2002. Not exactly great Phillies years.
Except this is the definition of boondocks
Rural country; the backwoods.
and while Philly might have been the Backwoods in 1762, it is has not been the backwoods for about 250 years.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
If that is true, than Pittsburgh or Kansas City wouldn’t be the equivalent of the baseball boondocks, and I can’t accept that.
Some teams just suck for a while, those Phillies teams were one of them.
so boondock
for you in this thread is simply a lousy team for a number of years?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
And doesn’t look like it’ll change during that players years with the team. For Rolen to be over rated during his Phillies years, it would mean that they had a real shot to go to the playoffs, and they were nowhere close. From 1996 to 2002 (where Rolen was traded), the Phillies finished
1996: 5th, 67-95
1997: 5th, 68-94
1998: 3rd, 75-87
1999: 3rd, 77-85
2000: 5th, 65-97
2001: 2nd, 86-76
2002: 3rd, 80-81
I don't see how you can go with Rolen
since he is still kind of awesome.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I was thinking Freddy Garcia
Before I realized he won a ring in Chicago.
Otherwise, multiple AS appearances, playoff experience, still hanging on after 10+ year career.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Bartolo Colon
if some ML team signs him this winter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Thought about it. He’s not that far past his prime though (performance wise)
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I think I have it
Trevor Hoffman
Thought of as a HOFer, even though he probably isn’t. Sucks now.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
7 AS games for Hoffman, 6 Pro Bowls for McNabb
One World Series (loss), one Super Bowl (loss)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
winner winner chicken dinner. I think the closer route was really the way to go
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I would argue that invalidates it
QB is the most important position in the NFL, closer is a long shot from that in MLB.
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but your closer is arguably your best pitcher, and comes in during the most crucial in game situations
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Your best pitcher is a starter
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I’m just giving the popular rhetoric, I don’t really believe it
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
If a closer was any good, he’d be a starter.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
There is no real ‘MVP’ position in baseball. Every position is so individualized that it really does take a team all together to function as a group. Also, every position has glamor players compared to nobody giving a fuck to the O-Line in football.
But the distinction is quite clear between starting pitchers and relievers. Starting pitchers are much more valuable. Position players and starting pitchers are on a different level than relievers.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Offensive linemen’s agents would disagree
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
But the closer is the complete opposite on the importance scale compared to the QB.
The QB is by far the most important player on the field. Feels like you need to stick with SP.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I with Michael on this
I think we need a SP or a Catcher or a SS or CF.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Did Jason Schmidt retire, cause he could be our guy
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Schmidt's decline
was fast and hard due to injuries.
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I don't care what Ned thought
I’m talking about reality.
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I really want to say Mike Mussina
But I like him too much as a pitcher.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
not playing anymore
but Sosa is the best I can do…McNabb also has been (unfairly, to me) a lightning rod for controversy..that’s why I ruled out Thome
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Mike Hampton?
Huge contract he never came close to earning. Played for a bunch of teams…
…and believe it or not, still in baseball: 4.1 IP last year for ARI.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Well, there’s that.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
What about Ben Sheets?
Or does his injury history muddle things up too much?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Different cases IMO, but probably close enough to invalidate Sheets.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Randy Johnson
was probably the ultimate one
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
RanJo won a championship with Zona though, right?
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
I've been sleepy
was not winning a championship part of the criteria?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
well it makes your case easier since McNabb hasn’t won anything
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
The criteria for the McNabb of baseball seems increasingly precise.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
The ideal candidate would have gotten to one World Series, yet lost.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
and thrown up on the mound
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
if we open this up to nonactive players we might have more success
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
and he would have been the subject of possibly racist and certainly very weird comments by Rush Limbaugh
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Surprisingly, that doesn’t eliminate anyone.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Aaron Sele. Multiple all star games despite not being any good, stayed around for six years only once posting an ERA+ over 91.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Extra credit for Sele getting the 4+1 win.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
And yeah, he won in Anaheim but he had nothing to do with it.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I feel like I should point out that McNabb actually was quite good.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
No one here believes that
other then me or you.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Two All Star appearances and a top five Cy Young vote.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
What about Kevin Appier?
Same ring as Sele, better peak. Hung around.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll give you that, but in my mind Appier is severely underrated.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
The ideal comp
Would be good for a decent stretch, though not HOF level, not win it all, switch teams, be not as good as the career goes on.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Sele only has 3 really good years
all at the beginning of his career
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i said
Bartolo Colon
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
still sounds like Oswalt
one WS loss, decent, not HOF not win it all, switch teams, not as good, etc etc
I’m thinking you may be right. McNabb is simply not that bad now just like Oswalt. Not as good as he used to be.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
It's pretty good
I’m willing to go along if you will back off your “Oswalt sucks” stance
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
My immediate reaction to readin this
Was Jeff Kent. But then I realized he probably will be in the HOF.
The Jeff Kent hall of fame argument is always a fun one.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I like that you call Jeff Kent "It"
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
This is the part of the discussion where I point out that he should have been moved from second base years before hitting his milestone (Most Homeruns as a second baseman)
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
who cares about defense
did you see how many homers that guy hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Offense made up for it. I’d be willing to bet Kent has a higher WAR than half the second basemen in the hall.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Was his defense that atrocious for that long? I thought he was a passable enough defender for most of his career.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Did a quick check, this actually isn’t true. There are 17 second basemen in the Hall, Kent is above four of them. Still not bad for a guy who didn’t get started until 29.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Jeff Kent made the quasi racist comments, wasn’t subject to them
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
If McNabb suffered a catastrophic injury this season and never played again, he also would receive $25 million more.
ah
the Jason Schmidt clause, well played McNabb’s agent
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
That has to be insurance money
and given this is football and he’s a QB a concussion could easily end his career, so I’d think the premium on this would incredibly high.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Jason Giambi. Signs massive contract with the Yankees, keeps on bouncing from team to team as a DH/1B/bench player now.
I like this one. Never won when with the Yankees.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Jason Giambi has more in common with Randy Moss
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
He is the most physically gifted
at his position in the league and just doesn’t try hard and is a giant jerkwad? Not seeing it.
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I meant more relationship with one team, no championship, now bouncing around to bunch of formerly great franchises
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
McNabb is still good enough to be a starter on many teams in the NFL
Giambi is not good enough anymore to be a starter.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
and has only been good enough to be a DH
which is a non position for about 5 – 10 years depending on how you feel about statues playing 1st base.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Except the year he signed his deal with the Yankees
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
With what he did that year they could have given him a Scrooge McDuck vault and he’d still be underrated.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Mcnabb is this bad but...
Andruw Jones
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I like this one
but to be honest, there is no Donovan McNabb in baseball. I just checked
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all of them?
or just Hamels?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
A Phillies uni should render anyone un-hot
in my humble straight male opinion. Ditto Giants. :-P
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Good thing the playoffs aren’t right now.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Yup. One team annhilates a weaker team on national TV. Let’s crown them Super Bowl champions!
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t just yesterday. They faced a real test against the Colts (admittedly banged up) and took care of business.
I’m not an Eagles fan, just think they’re pretty great in every facet of the game.
by silverwidow on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I love that phrase, take care of business. it’s probably my favorite cliche after games aren’t played on paper
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass!
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Remember when everyone thought they where rebuilding?
OOPS.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think the Giants
could give them a good game next week. That line is gonna be angry.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
If Michael Vick continues to throw zero picks, they might have a chance. That’s a tough pace to maintain, though, especially when you are Michael Vick.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Although
I will say, it will be the most uncomfortable Super Bowl pregame show ever when Armen Keteyian interviews several members of The Dawg Poung about Vick.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Better him than Ben “Overcoming Adversity” Roethelsberger.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Alleged rape is better then admitted puppy murder?
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Vick at least did the time and we pretended to care that he was a bad person for a while.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Who’s the “we” that pretended? Pleny of people actually do care.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
General media coverage, at least until last night.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I'll give you the first part
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Yeah, I have to think doing the time and at least appearing to be remorseful (maybe he is or isn’t) makes it seems like he’s done his penance.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Well, yes. Rape is worse than dog fighting.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Dog raping, however
is much, much worse.
Trust me.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Dog rape followed by dog suicide?
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That reminds me
We have spent all morning trying to come up with an MLB comp for McNabb, but I think with Vick, his MLB comp would be the pitcher with the worst K/9.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
It’s that exact dichotomy that I strive for.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
He learned his lesson
I love animals more than most humans, but the dogfighting thing is common in subcultures that breed ignorance and people live in squalor. Not saying it is right, cos it’s not, but you have to look at it in the wider context. Give someone millions of dollars, that shit doesn’t go away. He did his time.
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Pound
jokes work better when you spell words correctly, kid.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
This conversation thread is for the dogs, man
;-P
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Are they really doing that well?
My Eagles friends must be real excited. I still have some hope for the 49ers, now that Smith#2 seems legit: 2 wins in a row!!
I'd need to replace my monocle
if I wore one
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
By George
someone get on the telegraph and notify Washington. We need to marshall the militia
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Bronson Arroyo and Brett Myers each got fifth place votes
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
That's a joke. Feh.
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Did you know
the Wilpons are buying a MLS team, to take up the New York Cosmos name, to start play as soon as 2013?
The Commish says Single Table vs Conferences will be discussed, but MLS will always have playoffs cause the buildup really helps media coverage (which is true)
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
In Red Bulls Arena in NJ, the soccer specific stadium that just opened this year
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
They have the space for stadiums?
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And it’s only like 6 miles from Times Square.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
there’s just no room to build on the island
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
all?
Knicks, Rangers, Mets, & Yanks play in the 5 boroughs
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and have since New York was ruled by the five families
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
the 6th
the Roc-a-Fella family, will deliver the Nets to Brooklyn
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Clayton Kershaw most underrated pitcher at this moment?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Perfect
but are we going to be doing baseball/football comparisons all day, if so I’ll need to bone up on my football unless I go old school
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
In the end Andre knew better then to waste his time learning his name
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I missed it
what did he do to Ely, hit him hard in BP?
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When Ely was going to get his first start Ethier was asked about Ely and he laughed saying he had no idea who Ely was.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
before Ely was called up for the first time
Ethier was asked about Ely, and he replied something like “To be honest, I have no idea who that is.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
“Who?” said right fielder Andre Ethier, when told by reporters. “I don’t even know who’s starting for us. I don’t even know who that is. I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but I don’t know him.”
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/5/6/1461677/ethiers-last-chapter-closes-the
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in stereo
thanks, my donation is in the mail. I hope you take rubber checks.
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I don't think so
If the Dodgers put Kershaw on the market, he would fetch a king’s ransom.
I think Billingsley is more underrated.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Because
Cain pitched himself into the spotlight while Chad pitched himself off the playoff roster?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Fun fact
Postseason numbers:
Cain: 21.1 IP, 7 BB (2.95 BB/9), 13 K (5.48 K/9), 0 HR, 0 ER
Bills: 17.0 IP, 10 BB (5.29 BB/9), 22 K (11.65 K/9), 1 HR, 13 ER
Jimmy Rollins’ wall scraper went out, Ian Kinsler’s didn’t.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
13 earned runs?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn’t win enough!
I think an arguement can be made that he is in a group of really good pitchers that don’t get any real attention on a national stage.
Matt Cain was in that group before this year.
So then it’ll take the Dodgers getting past the NLCS?
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I think that for CK to get the National recognition that meercat is talking about, he needs a big performance in a big spot.
I know how great he is, and you do too.
But I’m not sure that everyone is sold on him. Partly because of age and exposure.
His time will come. And we will rejoice.
Shit, I almost forgot
Speaking of Chad Billingsley, True Blue LA is sponsoring its first ever Baseball-Reference page!
what am I going to do with numbers version of Ethier. You can’t frak a two
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
You just wrote "Josie Ethier"
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by David Young on Nov 16, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
he did didn’t he. Josie Ethier is available for $45.
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I assume he was the only one available
because he’s so underrated
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Flagged
the sponsorship says nothing about how awesome Chad’s ass is.
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I thought about adding something about a real doll.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I actually sponsored Clayton
on the Baseball Cube after we drafted him.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I want our money back:)
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
=(
Here, have a homemade cookie.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Speaking of TrueBlueLA
When the heck you guys gonna make some shirts?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
They'll make T-Shirts
When Kyle Russell hits 40 bombs in the majors.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
When Jon did it
he spent months working with someone on the graphic. Maybe we should hold a graphic contest, though I’m not sure any of you are talented in that area since you could not possibly be boning up your graphic skills since all you do is post, drink, or play video games.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Or should we just use this
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
too busy, too rectangular, too many colors
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
that would cost a fortune
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we need a simple design that we can put on some American Apparel t’s. I may have us an in at AA
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Good
Because I love that quality! AA shirts are comfortable even after 25 rounds in the washing machine.!
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
It would be better
from a profit standpoint if we made a t-shirt that didn’t last more than one year, so you’d have to purchase our annual shirt just to be cool :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
the light bulb/battery model, I like it
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
and they’re ethically made in a factory in Los Angeles
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I prefer my shirts to be ethnically made rather than ethically made.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Okay
you are on the spot. We will start the Graphic Design this week, we expect to make a decision by next week. and have these ready for Christmas Presents.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
if you can’t fork over $10 toward TBLA, you need to get a job where you can wear a hat to work
combo callback!
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I imagine
for any profit to be involved, or even to break even, it would have to cost more then 10 dollars.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
that was just nice looking number, I’ll have to see their bulk order prices. mostly we want to break even on the pre-order, then have some around in the warehouse (my room) for any eventual profit (which won’t actually happen)
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
ugh……
Can’t I be a tightwad in peace?
I’m in for a shirt. Maybe one for the daughter as well. If we can get one that small.
The wife hates Tshirts, so she is out.
:)
can we get TBLA thong underwear?
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why not
I feel like I’ve been up someone’s butt after just a few comments on here, much less all day.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
This gives me some ideas
for slogans we can put on the underwear…
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
“True Blue LA: addictive like crack, for your crack.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
TBLA: Covering Assholes Since 2005
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When we make TBLA
shoes, I expect a dozen in assorted colors to find its way to Arkansas
by bhsportsguy on Nov 16, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Ha!
TBLA: where pumps never go out of style.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I second this plan.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
This plan sounds ivdownian, writing checks your body can’t cash.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
if we do preorders, we can cash this check.
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
You could tart collecting preorder cash
at karaoke to cover the initial run
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Future conversation
“Eric, do you have the t-shirt money?”
Eric: “T-shirt?”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I imagine this being more elongated: teeee-shirt?
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
This is how Jerry McGuire got screwed by Kush.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
Sorry
I was at lunch in the lobby with that black fella
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
The colors will fade away after a wash
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
For me the perfect graphic would be a blue shirt with True Blue in white Dodgers script and LA in the classic LA symbol.
And on the back
“Where the dodger dogs are always grilled”
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You don’t want it to say: “A place for Dodger fans to congregate without spending $15 on parking.”
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
not if we’re going to wear it inside DS
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
It doesn't have to be fancy I just want to give them my money
and also receive something in return.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Eric working like a dog for you doesn't count as
receiving something in return?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
It's OK
At $229 per shirt, we should make a healthy profit. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
It does
its not like you have a PayPal account set up for us to donate or anything;.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You can always send money to
molokai
@
yahoo.com
per PayPal
and I’ll make sure Eric gets whatever % you would like to go to him up to 20%.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I screwed up on my email
posted it somewhere now I get trash in my email, no bueno.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I'm in on the graphics contest
I think I can put something together of TBLA quality… Maybe?
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Of course you can! It’s TBLA quality, so you know the standards are low!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I want sauerkraut somehow incorporated into the sign.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
If each of you agree to buy five
then we will run off a print of 50 because that is all who will actually buy the shirt.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
oh come on
it’s a team building exercise thing for next TBLA night at the park. Though good gods we need a better logo to put on the shirt.
Also, the McCoven has shirts. I know cause I accidentally burnt my ex’s
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa
you dated someone from MCC?
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yeah
I was living San Francisco and we had a mutual….interest. Anyhow, he was a McCoven poster, had the t-shirt, and on the back is this long quote about everytime a Dodger scores a run an Angel gets its wings ripped off by a demon blah blah blah.
So one night I’m making us dinner and the pilot light goes out. I take a skewer to relight it, and as I’m holding the skewer he had his back to be, wearing that shirt and my hand just sort of drifted
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Did you accidentally burn it
or do it on purpose because of the stupid quote.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
if it's the latter
we need to make sure it’s a bawlin quote
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lame-os
THE “Angel Quote”: Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Obviously the person who wrote that has a lot of issues..
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Fucking pagans trying to demonize US?
Dodgers = blue + white + sky + clouds = heaven
Giants = black + orange = fire = hell
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
that is, that’s the quote which caused me to burn my ex with fire
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
would it be weird
if we had our names on the back, like player names?
probably.
but mostly i imagine a shirt where we can make fun of each other
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If the t-shirts had our names on the back, I’d only wear them to TBLA functions and at home. If they didn’t, I’d wear them more often.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
yeah, i figured
it could just say awesoke in all caps on the back.
or “GFY in the Heart”
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TBLA: Where the Dodger Dogs are Always Awesoke
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I'd like mine to say
TBLA: We need an Ace
TBLA: Trade prospects to the Royals for Granick. They just might do it
TBLA: Is meercat Phil, or is Phil meercat?
The first one is actually really funny
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It gives me my 2nd idea for a design
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Bitchs got THEY shit busted wit chairs the p world bitchs in the corner were talkin hell shit then all they did was throw shit and not hit anybody then was so scarded to come outside they went to jail………….when police came and slammed a bitch east oakland style.
hide yo kids hide yo wife
chad will be messing EVERYONE up in 2011
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TBLA: You Are So Dumb
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I've got it
TBLA:
We’ve got your T-Shirt
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
TBLA: Proud Fans of the Dutch Rudder
hahahahahahahahahahaha
I amuse myself and that’s all that matters
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Dutch rudderless
without Josie
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'm not sure if thats actually funny
or just lewd
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Holy shit!
We could just have the Dutch Rudder K design on the front!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Dutch Rudder K design, with a rendering of Delias Man’s boss’s boss jumping off the top…into Jamie McCourt’s Olympic-size pool.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Rape: At least it’s not Suicide
…I’ll be in my corner
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One missing word could make a ton of difference
Front: “True Blue LA: Where the dogs are always grilled”
Back: “Vick 7”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
TBLA: Brought to you by the letter Z
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by Maddz on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Best in-joke yet.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
My only thing is that any SBN blog could say that…. unless I’m missing something.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
TBLA:
A contemptable lot of thieves, blaggarts, and tiger stabbers
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
On Soviet TBLA
Dodger Dogs Grill You
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
2011 Soviet Dodgers
Clayton Kershaw
Chad Billingsley
Casey Blake
Paul Konerko
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What if we just had this picture on the front?
I shit you not, this was a coincidence: check out the website where this particular image was hosted.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I sent money to Jon back in the Toaster days
and I have 3 DT shirts. Oh, and the Best of DT book.
If you count the 100 Things and the 2010 MSP Dodger Annual, I have purchased just about everything JW has ever done re the Dodgers.
I like his swing
Excellent balance and he stays back on the ball with a good follow-through.
Then again, it is a highlight video.
Free agency should be like political adds
Other middle infielders should have their agents put out a highlight package of Nishioka striking out and making errors.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Paid for by friends of Ryan Theriot and the committe to see Ryan Theriot offered arbitration
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Je m’appelle Ryan Theriot, et j’approuve ce message.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
I like this. Boras probably already does this to all of his non-clients as part of the package he sends out.
Everybody wants Beltre
so why don’t you?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Nishioka
Wrong for MLB, Wrong for the Dodgers.
paid for by the Ryan Theriot for 2011 2B commission.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
the Clintons
would’ve surely dug up some dirt on Cliff Lee, with their Arkansas connections
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Even though I've soured on him
and the rumors of the posting fee are ridiculous if true, I could be re-interested if it’s between he and Renteria. :-/
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I am still interested in Nishioka because really our options outside of him are probably Renteria or Theriot and both of those options suck.
Or the very cheap DeJesus!
(If they can upgrade LF and 1B from outside that is.)
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Bill Russell?
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Hard to fit a glove over all those damn rings.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
There was a Dodger by that name once.
;-)
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I would be OK with that but I don’t think that is even a realistic option. If he was under consideration then they would’ve called him up in Sept.
Probably not realistic to start season with him
unless he’s blazes in ST but Mattingly has been impressed with him in AFL no? I thought he didn’t get called up in part because he was needing a break?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If anyone was hoping for John Buck
He’s close to signing a 3 year deal with the Marlins
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions
Lots of bucks for John
Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports says 3-year deal could be worth more than $15 million.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I was just reading that they were looking at AJ Pierzynski this morning. I was hoping he would be off the market so Ned wouldn’t be tempted.
I fully expect Davey Lopes to be the new crotchety old man.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
The walk totals are stunning for Buck. He totals 167 walks over a 7 year career.
Russell Martin passed that by year 3.
Just a note
and I am cherry-picking here, but…
Buck: gonna be 30, .253/.307/.440, 99 OPS+ over last 3 seasons
Martin: gonna be 28, .261/.364/.356. 95 OPS+ over last 3 seasons
Buck leads the 2-year OPS+, 112 to 86, so take all this with a grain of salt.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
or another way
Buck, ages 26-27: .223/.306/.396, 85 OPS+
Martin, ages 26-27: .249/.350/.330, 86 OPS+
Buck in ages 28-29 hit .271/.309/.487, 112 OPS+, but he also wasn’t coming off a hip injury heading into his age 28 season.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
ok, real talk
why is it in baseball, girlfriends are trouble?
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Real talk?
None of us actually believe that
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Everything men do is to get women. Once they get women, they do nothing but the women.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Oh I missed the real talk part.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I think he meant
“if a man could fuck in a cardboard box, he wouldn’t buy a house.” – Dave Chappelle
what does the R stand for? Roberto? Randy?
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I have two classes with the same professor
he says “real talk” all the time, I’m picking it up
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Using the word
“real” in a area of study that relies on beliefs, is amusing to me.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 16, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
contextually speaking
he usually says this directly after making a joke. Also, he teaches “Race, Religion, and Protest Music” and “Introduction to Black Church Studies”.
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Its a difficult comparison
because some teams might simply value slugging more than OBP out of their catcher.
Always thought it was pretty cheap of teams to play just one guy. I mean, 5-on-1 just isn’t fair. Did Bill Snyder schedule that game? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I was chatting with one
of the broadcasters working the 6am game. Those games weren’t on tape delay, they got folk to show up to watch a basketball game at 6am
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder how many people lurk here and just read the articles and all the comments
but never post.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Actually just one
Former Dodger minor leaguer Jereme Milons.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I have to pay attention to this thing called “class”… pfft…
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. Just got back and scrolling through 100+ comments since I left.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Cup of coffee, atkins bar, and a walk.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Not quite.
I’m not nearly as slavish to this routine as I used to be. But this is still my default lunch plan.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
grad school is a really good diet. Went from 163 to 153 in a month.
I’m not vouching for the healthiness of the diet, though.
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Intersting, since as an undergraduate I hit the point of no return.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Atta kid.
I’m going to get a sandwich from somewhere. Just don’t know the options here.
Subway….maybe Quizno’s…..Firehouse is gone…..
Just got back from Tomboys
best pastrami I’ve ever had. Though, I’ve never been to Langers and mostly Tomboys is the same as every Steve’s, Rod’s, Y’Not and Bob’s.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
Yes, in 1933.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, you’re old.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
sure
they put it on a bun with some lettuce and called it a hamburg steak
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
i've had 2 dollar wine
i might have to draw the line at 2 dollar steak
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two buck chuck! I lost something once to two buck chuck, can’t remember what it was
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
i appreciate
that your answer was “yes”
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I once had Prime Rib in Vegas for 5.99. Air quotes there, I’m sure.
by silverwidow on Nov 16, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I’m a high roller.
::calls Sports Book as we speak""
:)
by silverwidow on Nov 16, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I put ketchup on it to feel fancy.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
I did, I found it to be as tough as many of the wrestlers in the WWE.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
so then you could say
it was RAW
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
Oh come on, nerd puns are okay but those aren’t.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Besides, I’ve transferred my love of fake underwear fighting to gay skinhead fighting these days.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Keith Law doesn't agree with my Kershaw angst
Me:
Congrats to Halladay for winning deserved NL Cy Young award. But not a single vote for Clayton Kershaw is an utter joke. Thoughts @keithlaw?
keithlaw: Disagree on “utter joke.” RT @craigary But not a single vote for Clayton Kershaw is an utter joke.
Me:
Would you believe…Unfair? Votes for Arroyo and Myers over Kershaw seem wrong to me. Cain and Lincecum should be higher too.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Arroyo and Myers were likely hometown votes. The L.A. Times and Daily News don’t have votes in any races. You want to blame somebody, blame the Times antiquated policies.
I’m not sure what the Times’ policies have to do with anything.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
You want a couple of votes at the end of the ballot for Kershaw. There’s a better chance of that happening if the local press had some votes for the NL Cy Young.
I don’t blame anyone if the guy from Houston put Myers 5th on his ballot.
That has nothing to do with the Times’ policies though.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
The Times policies forbid their reporters on voting for any of these rewards though. Look at the votes you and Phil gave Kershaw. Did you give it to him because you honestly thought he was the 5th best pitcher in the NL, or was there a bit of homerism going around? :)
I’m just saying that down ballot votes tends to go to go to guys they’re familiar with, which is usually hometown players.
The only person I would have maybe voted over Kershaw for #5 was Oswalt, but it was close enough.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Neither did I
It’s easy to tell from the trailer, and cast list.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I naively expect journalists to vote for the most deserving candidates
not this reward fan favorites or local guys crap, but should probably give up on that…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I started an utter joke
That started TBLA crying…
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Cy Young
Second place worked well financially for Adam Wainwright, per the AP:
By finishing second, Wainwright’s $9 million option for 2012 and $12 million option for 2013 become guaranteed as long as he doesn’t finish the 2011 season on the disabled list because of an injury to his right arm.
no it didn't
you don’t think that guy wants those options to go away? Dude could spend the first 4 months of the season hurt, come back and pitch well in September and still get $9mil for 2012.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
They weren’t player options, so he didn’t have a choice in the matter anyway. Turning non-guaranteed money into guaranteed money is always good.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose they would have picked up the options anyway in that case. For whatever reason when I see “option” instead of “team option” I assume it’s a player option. Especially for pitchers.
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The overwhelming majority of options are club options.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Wainwright signed the extension
after coming off his first year as a starter, in the spring of 2008. No one thought then (probably on either side) that he was headed for Cy Young Award territory. He signed an extension to carry him through his arbitration eligible years for at total cost of $15M with his signing bonus. His 2012-2013 extensions were given to him on the basis of getting a top 5 Cy Young award finish in 2010 or 2011
So St. Louis took a very reasonable risk guaranteeing $15M for 4 years of Wainwright’s arbitration years and I would think it remains doubtful until they settle some other questions if they would approach him for another extension.
I would think that they are gonna lock Wainwright up in a year or so.
They have to resign Pujols, Carpenter, and Wainwright.
I’m betting that Carpenter gets left out.
But that means probably paying
Something like 4 years at 50-55M, I don’t know if they want to do that.
Not if you were on the verge to signing for more money and years on the free agent market than you could get with the options. He would have been 30 after 2011, with a 140 ERA+, and a possible cy young. He might have gotten a team to give him 6 or 7 years.
If the options are picked up, he’d be 32 after 2013, and less attractive to sign.
Maybe
let’s see what Lee signs for first. Also, in 2013 salary figures, CC may very well only be a top 5 paid pitcher.
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If he was pitching well enough to be a sought-after free agent, those options were getting picked up anyway. This just makes sure that money has more of a chance of becoming guaranteed than it did before.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
In my next life I want to be a craptacular NBA player from Europe. Marko Jaric and Vujacic hit the jackpot.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 16, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
So is Eva getting a tattoo removed?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Didn't remember they were married
I just thought they were living in sin
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I took it as something that a stereotypical/archetypical Jewish mother would say.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
The first thing I thought of was Tony Soprano telling it to Meadow when her and Finn were living together.
by Michael White on Nov 16, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
You haven't missed anything :-/
Apparently some stuff happened, but nothing of consequence or drama.
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For example, here is a true story:
Bride and I dated for three years in college and for two of those we were living together. After college (in Boston) we moved to LA. After a year, we came back to visit my folks.
I said to my mom, “So where is Bride gonna sleep?”
She said, “What do you mean? She sleeps in your old bedroom and you sleep in the basement.”
I said, “Isn’t that ridiculous? We live together in California.”
She said, “Well, I just feel I owe it to Bride’s mother.”
I said, “Bride’s mother bought us a bigger bed to sleep in when we visit them.”
She said, “I want to protect your sisters.”
I said, “My sisters think it’s weird that we won’t be sleeping in the same room.”
She said, “Humma, I know what you do out there…. in California.”
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s cool that your mom called you Humma.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
As the father of a daughter, I approve of your mother! I bet keithc does too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The current BF teaches martial arts and kickboxing. He could kill me.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Do you tell him where he sleeps when he’s at your house?
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
KeithC will be ready to have her leave at 18
since her room will be filled 700 pairs of shoes at that point. :)
I will build her a shoe closet.
She is never leaving the house.
It’s gonna suck for her, but it’s for the best.
:)
Oh that's right
you will build an underground path from the house to the University of Arkansas where she will be the first student in history to have one on one classes.
How about just KC FC?
Or FU KC?
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Terrible headline of the day
“Prince William gave his fiancee Kate his mother’s engagement ring, hoping their marriage doesn’t hit a wall like his parents’ did”
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I'm late to the t-shirt talk
but posted way further up that whatever design you come up with, it needs a “fuck you Ruiz” in there.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Is that Matthew McConaughey's uncle or something?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Isaac Bruce, Tim Brown, Deion and Shannon Sharpe should get in on this.
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I would appreciate if Tim Brown’s name did not come out of your mouth or typed by your fingers in that way.
That's freaking hilarious.
Maggiano’s (An Italian chain) just handed a postcard that says buy one entree, take one entree home for free.
They have been doing that for awhile now
I love me some Maggiano’s
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and its not all entrees
only on a subset of pasta dishes
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
isnt Maggianos
a slightly upscale Bucca de Beppo and gives you all you can eat? So you’d be taking home some anyway.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I've actually never been to Bucca de Beppo
its not all you can eat, but the portions on the pasta are fairly large, usually have to share them between two people. I would say its pretty upscale though.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I've been to the Maggiano's
in Vegas. it wasn’t too memorable, obviously since I had to ask the earlier question. Just seemed like decent Italian as I recall.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Maggiano's is very
OK. nothing special. better than C&O and Bucca De Beppo, definitely, but nothing amazing (or worth the money). But compared to, let’s say, Cheesecake Factory, Maggiano’s wins.
Having been to both
Maggiano’s = upscale Buca Di Beppo.
Maggianos is from the same company that brings you Macaroni Grill, Chilis, and On The Border. Order in that sentence is in decreasing food quality, from decent to inedible.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
On The Border
has the worst service ever.
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On the Border
of cat food and human food.
by mintxcore on Nov 16, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to bang this chick that worked at On the Border.
Really good Margarita’s at the one here.
I ate there once, it was okay.
Never been back to eat.
Did you give her a tip much bigger than a quarter?
On and on till the break of dawn
All over the restaurant, word is born?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
The one at the Northridge actually closed
The location is surrounded by thriving restaurants like Wood Ranch, CPK, Claim Jumper and Macaroni Grill. It’s really hard to make margarita palace style Mexican food so bad that you can’t stay open in a location like that. They were really terrible.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
As it should
That is the weirdest complex. A sorta-but-not-quite mall. And you gotta pay to park or search for validation. Pretty nice theater though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I wonder if that mall saves all of the urine from the mens’ rooms.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
needing to buy something at a Borders there
was so stressful. trying to find parking, running to the store, rushing to find hte item, pay for it, run back to the car, haul ass to the gate, hope no one is in front of you searching for their ticket, and hope to get out before 20 minutes is up and pay $3.50 or whatever to park hahah
agreed
but i worked at a borders and they used to give employees $35 in gift cards a month. i collected a ton (and stll have a ton). they used to work at amazon.com but now theres a real borders.com that kinda sucks. so im stuck with all these cards now :\
You don't want to spend 35 dollars on a DVD?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
There's one in Warner Center
and I agree with you.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
what was supposed to be funny about that?
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Sands is 3 for 3 with 2 homers so far in his AFL game today
season ends Thursday so they probably told him he would stop going the other way with his at bats for the final few days
Like Downtown in Major League 3: Back To The Minors!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
If Jerry Sands
can actually control when and where he can start hitting home runs, he should immediately go from Arizona to Dodger Stadium at the end of the week.
this
is awesoke
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ned got Donnie on the phone
and said, “Listen, get that kid Sands to start hitting homers, or I won’t have anyone to trade for Jon Garland next July!”
TBLA has had 105 visits in the last three days by people searching for
giada de laurentiis
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Does she have a big head?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
The size of her head is no deal breaker.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Doesn’t it just seem large because of the spinner body?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah. I have no problems with her relative head size.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
If that is true
there are also a couple limes on that toothpick as well.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'd put those limes in my coconut
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
be careful, if giada finds out you are posting all this about her
this might happen
thou i assume many of you would like that… haha
White dress
Big melons
Sea of crushed tomatoes staining dress
Tomato crushed in hand
Look of pleasure heretofore seen only on Bride of Kavula
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
We also had
18 visits from people searching for “louise bourgoin”, which I imagine is thanks to jojo.
9 visits from people searching for “barney the dinosaur”! (I have no idea why)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I did not know that si.com
lists TBLA articles under “Dodger News”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The cover art for Marvel vs. Capcom 3
Conundrum. If I get a job, I will have less time to play this, but if I don’t get a job, I can’t afford to buy this.
Are you a big MvC2 player?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I believe that is the case, but that doesn’t stop it from being a very popular game.
I never got into the “versus” series. Too much going on on-screen for me.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
and you don't think this one won't be?
look at that huge ass roster man!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I was thinking maybe a DS or an LA city layout in the background, I could make a brush of it
by Julio Nievas on Nov 16, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Don't mean to rain on your parade
you will have to get a licensing agreement with the Dodgers for use of their logo
We should probably get a seperate thread up for this
and do the voting based on recs or something, and then have a runoff between the top 3 rec getters.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Can’t have the logo, for obvious reasons.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
OK, this is gonna be crazy
But I think the T-Shirt should have one of those 2D barcodes that you can scan with your iPhone/Android/whatever. Scan it, and it takes you directly to the latest comment thread.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
you just raised the price $20 putting the Dodger logo on it
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
a generic baseball, true blue la written somewhere near it in a nice font, slogan underneath. winner
by Josie Becker on Nov 16, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
When did you get so boring?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
i need to try to cook something up
adding it to my list of other things to do:
finish home made bolognese
get some sort of outline or draft of script done for my writers group
keep reading a really damn good book
fuck it
lets just sign Tom Selleck to play first base
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I read this to the tune of “Werewolves of London.”
by kinbote on Nov 16, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
no good
he’s got a hole in his swing. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
He got that ironed out
Apparently making a man with a bad knee run up and down concrete steps is a good thing. Who knew?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
his Manager
and his hot daughter….who Selleck banged
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
i know....
i know…..
i tried to make it clear
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Again, Mr. Weisman sums up this off-season
in two paragraphs better than a bunch of comments that I could make.
In a nutshell, the timeframe for paying player salaries is fairly low on the issues bedeviling the Dodgers. Achieving a combination of good decisions and good luck regarding the roster is far more important. Even as the McCourt drama plays out, the Dodgers will thrive or dive depending on their personnel choices.
Eventually, the Dodgers will either operate one season on a limited budget, or they’ll find the revenue to bring their finances back to steadier ground. I’m betting on the latter. In any case, what matters is that they spend their money wisely, whenever they spend it.
I agree
and I know Jon’s article was a response to my SBN LA post, but I was just trying to get the word out on those deferred contracts. A $120m payroll wouldn’t shock me. Maybe closer to $110 or $115 though.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, Russell Martin just got some dollar signs in his eyes.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 16, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps this makes them more willing
to deal Uggla?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Unless they get bowled over with a good offer
I think they keep Uggla and make a run for it in 2011.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 16, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Think it makes the price easier
rumor was they wanted a catcher, but now they have Buck, and Paulino will be back from his suspension. Some relievers could be what it takes.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 16, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
How does John Buck get $6mil and Ramon Hernandez gets $3mil. The difference has to be marginal.
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Buck’s been good two straight years, Hernandez was pretty bad 2007-2009.
by regfairfield on Nov 16, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
oh give me a break
The Braves “appear to be very close to nearing a deal” for Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla, tweets MLB.com’s Mark Bowman. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweeted minutes ago that the division rivals are discussing a deal that would send Uggla to Atlanta for utility man Omar Infante and lefty reliever Mike Dunn.
Theriot and Troncoso, done and done?!
Jeez Marlins
Why don’t you just give him away to your division rivals? Stupid fish, still so unevolved.
Or is it Uggla’s contract $tatus that made him go relatively cheaply?
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