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Final TBLA Prospect Results

TBLA members have spoken, the final TBLA prospect results are in.  After tallying up the votes, the 16 – 20 prospects heading into the 2011 season are:

16) Jake Lemmermann

17) Ralston Cash

18) Leon Landry

19) Nathan Eovaldi

20) Matt Magill

If anyone is interested, the next 5 players in terms of votes were Brian Cavazos-Galvez, James Baldwin, Javier Solano, Joc Pederson, and Josh Lindblom.  After Lindblom, there was a significant drop off in the number of votes for the remaining candidates.  If I were guess which exclusion from the top 20 is "upsetting" to the most people, I would say that it’s probably BCG who had an outstanding 2nd half in 2010 and put up great all around stats.  At the end of the day, however, I’m guessing that it was his age and level of competition that kept people from voting for him.

Refer to the left side bar for the TBLA’s #1 – 15 prospects.  Overall, the TBLA top 20 prospects breaks down by position as follows: 10 right handed pitchers, 4 outfielders, 2 shortstops, 2 left handed pitchers, 1 second baseman, and 1 outfielder/first baseman.  Of the 12 pitchers, 9 are still considered full time starters, one (Eovaldi) could be either a starter or reliever, and 2 are full time relievers. 

Also, when you break down the group by how they were acquired by the Dodgers, you’ll notice that 12 were drafted as high school players, 6 were drafted as college players, and 2 were signed as international free agents.  In addition, the youngest player of the group is Jonathan Garcia, who just barely turned 19 last week, and the oldest player is Scott Elbert.

While I do know quite a bit about the prospects from other organizations, that knowledge pales in comparison to what I know about the Dodgers.  Therefore, I’m not the best person to discuss how the Dodgers farm system ranks against the other teams in baseball.  However, if you want my opinion, I would say that our system would probably rank in the 10 to 15 range.  I will be interested to see what rank Baseball America gives the Dodgers this year.  For the record, the Dodgers were ranked 23 by BA last year, but were #6, #6, #2, and #2 in the four seasons before that.

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The caption to Ethier's picture

is outstanding.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

yah cracked me up

PS: Who’s Ethier?

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

And great work on the prospect beat by Brandon. It is great to have another prospectologist on-board, in addition to Phil.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I think most here consider me the proctologist of the board

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

beat me to a FTFY

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I think what is surprising

is that Solano didn’t crack the top 20 after garnering, what seemed like some good support starting in the lower teens.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

Surprised me too

in the end, I put him 16th.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Really don't understand the Cash over Magill (or Solano for that matter)

Given that Cash’s stuff was also described as “Fringy”, yet hasn’t shown the success that Magill or Solano have at similar ages and higher levels.

I guess its Cash’s draft status, but he was considered a reach at the time IIRC.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

I think – think – I saw “slight” or “bit of a” or such adjectives in front of “overdraft” when I saw that type of criticism of the Cash pick, but my memory could be faulty.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah I had worries about him vs the other guys

so didn’t put him in my final 5, but… we’ll see!

I really do like the depth of our system now, as compared to some other recent years.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah Cash was an overdraft

BA didn’t have him in their top 200, and i don’t think anyone thought he’d go off the board until the 3rd – 6th round rank.

by Brandon Lennox on Nov 17, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Cash

The biggest surprise on the final list (16-20) for me was Cash..I have him about 25-30. But people rate differently..I was also surprised that Akins didn’t get any votes ??monster yr even in Pioneer league for guy who was about the right age for pioneer league..22 yrs old. He hit a hr every 10 abs or so? He could rise like Sands..with a good yr in A ball in 2011.

by coloblue on Nov 17, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Except more then anyone the scouts have said he cannot hit a breaking pitch

he will be very tested in the MWL, I doubt he passes.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Struck out way too much for a guy his age in the Pioneer League.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I swear even though you may be right

this is your standard reply about everyone in our system

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s true about everyone not named Dee Gordon. And it’s why I’m way pessimistic about all of our prospects.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Not Lambo. Oh, wait.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I was totally high on Lambo.

Please don’t bother with the obvious joke.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

You had to take a downer to depress your views on him?

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I was surprised

Cash got so much run too, I like Baldwin’s ceiling but I suppose he was just too green and only a 4th rounder. Cash has a great name, maybe people just think Johnny. Can’t blame ’em for that.

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Late bloomer then

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking as a Cash voter...

I liked his youth and his arm, simple as that.

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

it’s cool hearing about these young guys who could be up soon (probably not that soon, but still)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Movement Report

Since Last Year

Risers
Sands
Trayvon
Rubby
Webster
Garcia
Russell

Fallers
Gordon
Withrow
Miller
Martin
Gould
De Jesus
Elbert
Eovaldi

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 9:01 AM PST reply actions  

Kyle Russell and Gould barely moved though. Rusell moved up one spot, Gould down one.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus / Minus ?

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Most went from unranked to ranked, so I could really calculate that.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Elbert is the biggest drop. Sands is the biggest riser (unranked to #1)

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Normally a guy like Elbert

would not be eligible because most teams at his age would have actually used up his rookie status. But we have Monk for the next few years so who’s quibbling.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Ralston Cash will not get above AA ball, he was a 2nd round pick by Logan White, he has no chance of being successful.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

O's top 11.
Five-Star Prospects
1. Manny Machado, SS
2. Zach Britton, LHP
Three-Star Prospects
3. L.J. Hoes, 2B
4. Xavier Avery, OF
5. Dan Klein, RHP
6. Jonathan Schoop, SS
Two-Star Prospects
7. Ryan Adams, 2B
8. Joe Mahoney, 1B
9. Connor Narron, SS
10. Parker Bridwell, RHP
11. Mychal Givens, SS

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=12459

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

Everybody I used to follow on the Orioles

was promoted. Curious to see how the vaunted young pitching does. Will they follow the Tillman path or carve their own. All of the sudden the Bedard for Jones/Tillman/Sherrill is not looking like the greatest heist of the century just a good trade.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

which became Jones / Tillman / Bell / Johnson, of course. Johnson regressed in AA last year; his K/9 went down and his BB/9 went up to 4.8.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

In the end will they get

one above average player? Adam Jones looks to be stagnating. That promising outfield of Markakis and Jones now looks like Andre / Kemp light.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

107 OPS+ with defense from a center fielder is above average. Who knows if they’ll get two though.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

You all love the defensive metrics

and he’s been in negative territory for the last two years
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6368&position=OF

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw those

His career UZR/150 is -1.8, but the sample size is a bit short of three full years (so SSS, by a little), and scouts still like him, i think, so that’s why I went with “average”.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

B-Ref has him on the positive end. So settle on average?

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not, though Jones is only going to be, what, 24, and Tillman 23? Is a one-oh-something, average-fielding CF an above-average player?

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Shows how bad a pick

the 2009 2nd round was with Blake Smith in that a college guy cannot crack the top 20 in his 2nd year.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

wasn't he a pitcher in college?

I’d wait one more year before I call him a bust

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

He was a two way player.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm waiting a year too, agreed

And I gave him a vote late in the voting… And of course we all might not know what we’re talking about ;-)

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Aren't we waiting a year on everyone:)

Withrow, Martin, Eovaldi…………..

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I just gave up on Joel Guzman!

;-)

Yah basically. Or three years.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric Chavez used to be one of my favorite players

My head has given up on him but not my heart. If the Dodgers work him out and like him enough to sign him I’m not going to complain.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:11 AM PST reply actions  

Me neither. If he can somehow hold his back together for a season, he might make a good platoon mate for Blake.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Chavez would be lighting in a bottle

Sadly I think he is done-made a great effort last year. But if he were to stay on the field and hit 270 with 10 HR, 20 2bl, as a platoon partner that would be great. Incentive laden contract for 2mil.

by wineracquet on Nov 17, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

his lighting in a bottle broke in 2003.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as I want this to happen, you’d be just as likely to get those numbers from GA

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was always in his corner too. Maybe some duct tape, bailing wire, and an incentive-laden contract and we’re in.

by KellyStephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

With Benoit signing elsewhere

and Soriano surely to follow,

Then just maybe Broxton to the Rays is not as far fetched as I first thought when someone suggested it.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

For Upton? That would seem to be our only match.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Zobrist for 2B.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought we decided yesterday that Zobrist wasn’t getting traded. I would surely like to have him though.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think there is a good chance Zobrist will be traded. Just probably not for Loney.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He does seem like a great target, what with their abundance of middle infielders and need for a closer.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Zobrist for Broxton. Done.

;-)

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I would not complain about this.

Also, make it Loney and Broxton (+ prospects?) for Upton and Zobrist and we’re in serious business.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

From what I gather round here, Loney and Broxton are about 12 million dollars of pure grade A horseshit. So we trade our entire farm system, right?

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he pronounce his name ben-OYT, ben-WAH, or ben-oh-EET. Since he’s Dominican, I’d guess the last of those.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

it's the second one

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

There's only one ben-OYT

I have only heard Joaquin’s last name pronounced ben-WAH.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Just seems strange to me

that Joaquin Antonio (Pena) Benoit from the Dominican would use the French pronunciation. Maybe his did was from Martinique. :)

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

He is from a town close to the Haiti border?

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

the Haiti border is an ocean.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

He was referring to the cholera outbreak.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

DR and Haiti

share an island

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn Geology.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

BOOM! Geography'd.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

No it’s not. Haiti and The Dominican Republic share an island.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s been jammin…..

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

3 Yrs 16.5 Mill to Tigers, damn I never knew how dominant Benoit was this year until reading article about how he is the best in all of reliever that are in FA right now. batting avg, OBP, OPS, damn damn…

Benoit 8th – Jose 9th, sounds nice to me

by LAD17 on Nov 17, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixty inning sample size.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Always had dominant stuff but control was his bug a boo

then he got that under control.

Makes me wonder what Belisario would have gotten if he had been a free agent after 2009.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Even more shit for his visa problems.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Bradon..

Great job in sorting out prospects…good idea of ranking last 5 guys…
otherwise we’d be picking til turkey day..
Thanks..

by coloblue on Nov 17, 2010 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

I love loose translations

from Hiroki Kuroda’s website, a <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.hiroki-kuroda.com/contents/message/&ei=Dg7kTMf2Eo_AsAP9tLlm&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB4Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.hiroki-kuroda.com/contents/message/%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Div" target="new">message to his fans:

A lot of people have the reaction of many of my decisions I think this is a conclusion and I think a lot of things.

You may end next year baseball career, I continue to fight for a year without regrets.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

is there a Google Translate for Google Translate option?

;-) But I get the gist…

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

makes more sense

than most beauty pageant contestants

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

With Sands going 3 / 3 yesterday with two bombs

he jumped his OPS over .900

Not to read to much into this but with Donny Boy as manager the three top prospects playing the AFL are all in the top 20 in walks, Trayvon (6), Sands (7), DeJesus (17).

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

That is ranking

not the number of walks.
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&lid=119&t=l_bat

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a dangerous game having your MLB manager watch your prospects everyday. It’s all too easy to develop an attachment to these guys and, come spring training, he could end up lobbying for someone who just isn’t ready yet and stunting their development. I’m just not sure these guys catching Donnie’s eye is 100% a good thing.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather he have them in the back of his mind

then never having seen them, and not giving them any consideration at all. I love that Donnie is managing this team.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think it is necessarily a bad thing. My opinion is Colletti isn’t going to leave a spot open for one of these guys, thats just not how he operates. If something happens during the season, then I feel better that Mattingly has watched some of the top prospects closely.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

really great series here

while I took a backseat to most of the actual voting (what do I know besides the hype and the players cool names, Ca$h!!!!!!), this was a great overview of the talent in our system. I just hope these guys will show up in the dodger future!

also, the unemployed English teacher in my noticed a small typo. You say we have 10 RHP in our vote and then say “Of the 12 right handed pitchers…” and i think you mean ALL pitchers. hahah sorry, i feel like a jerk now. great article regardless!!!

by mintxcore on Nov 17, 2010 9:31 AM PST reply actions  

And

fixed.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Leaving the house in 5 minutes to

go tell the boss to suck it.

This will be fun

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

Enjoy

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

go tell the boss to suck it.

Please use those exact words at some point. Please!

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably not! But I wish I could.

I am taking another job in the company, just any job not working for him.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

But will you be able to spend your time @ work on TBLA?

Good luck regardless.

by KellyStephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably not at all.

It went fine. He asked me to stay Blah blah blah

I can’t work for him anymore.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

give ’em hell

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

TAKE NO PRISONERS

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by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Giving notice?

Good luck.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m doing something else starting January 2nd.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Prime 9

Wasting time watching a few Prime 9’s last night, some thoughts came to mind:

*Good job putting Ted Williams over Barry as the #1 LF. I was sure Barry was gonna take it.
*I forgot how great of a hitter Edgar Martinez was. I hate the DH, but he might be a HoFer. I need to look at the numbers closer.
*I didn’t realize the 05 White Sox staff ranked so high in ERA+. They were incredible that postseason, I witnessed it.
*78 Dodgers were 9th on the greatest infields, 99 Mets were 7th I believe on sheer defense. Hmmmm

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

*Pre-roid Barry was almost as good as Ted Williams.

*Edgar owned, probably the fifth best hitter of the 90s. Borderline Hall of Famer from the numbers, but the DH thing is gonna kill him.

*The bullpen for the White Sox was hilarious. Look at guys like Cliff Pollitte. Sucked, sucked, sucked, sucked, RELIEF ACE, sucked, sucked. Every single guy in that bullpen has a career like this.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Who are 1-4?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Barry and Frank Thomas in some order are 1-2, Griffey is three, then either Bagwell or Edgar is four.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a hard time ignoring Mike Piazza not being on this list. Tony Gwynn I can ignore completely and be perfectly happy.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Piazza, Fat Tony, and Biggio I think were the next three. It’s been a while since I looked at it.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Bonds

was a better all-around player than Williams, he had more tools and effect on the game with his legs and fielding. I was just being petty cos he’s Barry Bonds.

I also remembered last night how much I liked watching Paul Molitor. The year I got into baseball was 87, when he had the 39-game hitting streak.

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

*Pre-roid Barry was almost as good as Ted Williams.

This is true. In 1999/2000, Bill James ranked ’em Williams-Musial-Bonds 1-2-3, and his guiding principle was to rank current players as LOW as he could.

After that, Bonds went nuts in every possible way you can interpret that word.

Reasonable people can disagree on Bonds due to the steroids thing. I don’t know that I particularly care to make a case that it should be Williams over Bonds or Bonds over Williams. I will put it this way: you and I will never see a better hitter than Barry Bonds on steroids.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as I hated it because he was a Giant

I loved watching a single man be so good at his craft that he was universally feared by grown men who were the masters of their own craft. They stood on the mound knowing they were the best in the world at what they do, and it still wasn’t good enough to beat him.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I suggest not looking at Edgar martinez’s career progression. It’ll only depress you.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

he's the only star

who stayed with the M’s. That’s kind of depressing, as is 250 days of rainfall a year.

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Moreso, I meant try to avoid looking at how great he was at an advanced age, then 2003 hits and he falls off a cliff and is out of baseball a year later. He wasn’t hurt, he had a .895 OPS at age 40 in 2003, testing comes out and his OPS drops to .727 and he’s out of baseball.

None of the concerns have ever been proven or studied, so it’s a jaded pessimism that keeps me from fully appreciating him, but it’s still a bit fishy. He crushes the ball at 40 then forgets how to hit at 41 and is gone before 42.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Hank was great from age 21 and had his last great year at 39, fell off but was still okay at 40, sucked at 41, played a half season at 42 and retired. he was a legitimate superstar from the beginning.

Edgar Martinez had cups of coffee at age 24,25 had a half season at age 26, then was phenomenal from age 27-40. he then had one bad year and was gone. The dude was almost an also-ran prospect, then blew up, then disappeared.

You have to admit it’s a little unnerving.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh no question. I just generally assume that everyone from that era was on roids, so I would not be shocked if Edgar was too. Still, the man broke out in 1987 is that too early to think he was roiding?

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Consaco came up in 85

so… maybe?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that the same year Mark Mcgwire hit 49 as a rookie?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but the dude was tiny then.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember watching a replay of the 88 series and thinking the same thing.

I just meant that I don’t think it’s impossible. I don’t think it would have been MUCH earlier than 1987, but it wouldn’t surprise me to hear it started coming in big in the early 80’s.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuck

I completely forgot to record the Prime 9 on infields.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s OK. I think you know how it ends.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, ooh, I know

Number 1 is the 1999 Mets, right?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Might be the most metrosexual infield ever.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Of all the words in all the languages

I think I dislike the word ‘ever’ the most.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

If it were up to you

Tinker would have just stepped on second base and thrown to Chance and left the second baseman out of it.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

his name had an s. he can stay.

I just dislike that every few days something new is the best or worst ever.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

What you hate is not the word “ever.” What you hate is hyperbole.

And since hyperbole is my bread and butter, I have to love it.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

fair enough. Hyperbole is fine, especially creative hyperbole, but I hate how much the suffix -est is shoved down our throats. Who cares if Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth is the best hitter ever, they were both in the top tier for their time and that should be good enough.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You wouldn’t say that is the least accurate cover ever?

LOL Rey Ordonez.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m confused, why are the blacks wearing a black ensemble? I thought their colors were blue and orange

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

wow, I’m obviously still asleep. Just ignore me for the rest of the day

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

To this day, I refer to the one dude as “McNutty.”

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Today?

What kind of dope fiend be talking about tomorrow? Tomorrow ain’t shit. Today, Johnny, today.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

dah

he’s doing a guest turn on Fringe starting tomorrow night

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

OOO, i’ll have to watch that. Royo was so amazing playing Bubbles. Hell of an actor.

by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

See the Fox

I got you another viewer! I’m a real TV journalist!

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Fringe

What’s the appeal? I haven’t seen a single episode. I’m willing to be convinced to watch, however.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Anna Torv is wicked hot, and she’s really good at her character. You’ve got an alternate dimension and it’s trying to destroy ours cause this mad scientist guy (brilliant played mad scientist guy) stole someone from the other dimension causing said dimension to go batshit, though dimension B is still more technologically advanced

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You had me at “Anna Torv is wicked hot.”

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Attractive Lady

Wicked hot might be stretching it

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I see NIPPLES

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

NIPPLES

FTFM

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

This means little in my opinion

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

If anyone is thinking of seeing “Unstoppable” Don’t

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to see it in Vegas because it was the next one showing and would get us off the casino floor during a time of ass kicking at the Craps table.

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet you didn't like Top Gun

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I've heard it described as the x-files

but instead of dark, its whacky

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s like if Alias were trying to hang out with X-Files and Buffy so it bought a new wardrobe, started saying Chairy and other such words

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Still need to watch Alias

but I hate going into a show where I’ve been told to watch X seasons and then stop.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

You can watch the last season or so to get closure.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't want to watch it if its gonna suck

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I only used it cause it’s a JJ Abrams show. Also acceptable would have been the new Star Trek movie, though Lost is its own ball of wax

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He abandoned Lost like he did Alias

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

He does love lens flair though!

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

poor Joss

JJ abandons

Joss has his taken away……

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Serenity came out 5 years ago.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

and Firefly is 8 years old. When Firefly was on TV, Abrams was writing Felicity

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel old

=

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

nice!!

i have been playing THE WIRE BINGO but have since gotten stuck. My first day of my internship I ran into Michael K Williams and when I was at Trader Joes Lance Reddick used to always come in.

by mintxcore on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

does seeing them in on a different show count for the bingo?

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

any wire actor

in person, counts. seeing them on TV does not count.

by mintxcore on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

ahhh

I thought you meant the group. Carry on.

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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Great stuff, Brandon

You guess maybe #10-15 range overall for our organization; I’m thinking more like #15-20. Lack of a clear top guy or two and some lack of progression from the current wave will hold us back I believe.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

I can't believe the D-Backs are really going to trade Upton

They’re talking to the Red Sox

Theo is damned smart if he pulls this off.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Does it take them out of the Jayson Werth running?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

I think Kevin Towers is smart to get what he can for these players.

And I still want Stephen Drew.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Upton has never particularly wowed me

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t speak on his work ethic or whatever, but there’s a good chance he explodes in his mid-20s. Like 30-35 HR every year.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ditto.

When he’s hot, he’s a lot of fun to watch, but when he’s not he might as well be swinging the Sporting News.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember that his disappointing year this year was an .800 OPS from a 22 year old.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

still 22?

Thats more impressive, didn’t realize he was that f’ing young.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the guy is a beast and if we traded Kershaw for him I think we’d win that trade. I’m still not entirely sure where Kevin Towers is a good GM came from.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah i don't get it.

I can see that Towers would want to bring his own players in. But why dump a 22 year old with so much promise? I would gamble that we will be worth that contract.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

If this happens

does that automatically down the price for Werth/Crawford?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He’ll be 23 by Opening Day.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

:-)

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Beltre

The A’s have offered 5 years, $45M.

Um, yeah.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 10:31 AM PST reply actions  

He’ll probably get more money than that over 4 years from someone else.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if it was offered

but some boston paper was guessing at a 4 year $54M offer that would be the Red Sox limit.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

there you go. What’s he holding out for? 65/5?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Thats my guess

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

something like what he got from #6org

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

shitty offer

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

More "Dodgers talking with Brandon Webb" talk

If he doesn’t work out, whatever, it’s a 5th starter.

If he does work out….holy crap.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

I'd buy that for a dollar

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a good risk move. What should his downside guarantee look like? I’m guessing 5 or 6.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

What should it be?

Or what will he hold out for?

I’m sure he wants 6+ based on track record, but when you miss two full years you shouldn’t get much more than a big league spring training invite.

Would you really pay more for Brandon Webb than you would Bartolo Colon? It’s roughly the same concept except that Webb is two years removed from success and Colon is about 3.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

$5 or 6M guaranteed? That seems like a lot.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t sheets get 10 last year? 5 could be a bargain if he works out.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Big difference between one year removed from throwing a pitch and two.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that difference more then 5 million though?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say $1.5M guaranteed with incentives that can take it up to $5M.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say $1.5M guaranteed with incentives that can take it up to $5M.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

His downside guarantee is like $2 million. He has barely pitched in two years!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah and given he wasn't a fireballer anyway

seems like he’d have a better chance to come back and be pretty decent over (mmmph) Jason Schmidt.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

he could still touch 94 with his sinker sometimes. Last reports said he was sitting low-80’s. You could find about a million high school kids who throw 83.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

They lack grit

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

If he's still only touching 80 then forget it

but in his most recent seasons I thought he was mostly throwing about 90 or so tops and still doing pretty well. So it depends. Also most high school kids don’t have his sinker pitch. :-/

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

There will probably be several starters available that can be had for a couple million that would be fitting of the 5th starter spot. I would give Webb much.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I would guess the other way around

A guy that can throw 98 and suddenly is throwing 93 can learn to work with that. A guy that was sitting 91 might be hard pressed to succeed at 87-88.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

This should help with this debate (statement from Webb's agent):

Brandon pitched for the first time competitively (in 17 months) in September and October in three instructional games. The first game, Webb threw 80% and was 78-80 mph. The second game Webb was closer to 90% and was 81-83, and the third game, Webb, still laying back a bit, was 81-85. The reality is that Brandon showed good pitchability (he had strong movement on his signature sinker, plus plus change, and plus breaking ball). What he also had was some rust on location. Brandon’s velocity is of very little concern to those that watch a lot of games. His arm strength is indeed coming back, and honestly, he pitched at 87-90 all of 2008 (when he won 22 games) and that is only 2-5 mph off where he was in October.

Brandon’s surgeon, Dr. Keith Meister, fully expects him to prepare at a normal pace to be ready when camp opens in February, for whomever signs him. Brandon is hungry, excited, and ready to start 30 plus times in 2011. There is nothing to indicate he won’t, with all the work he has put in and his consistent offseason workout program.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There is nothing to indicate he won’t,

Now THAT is hyperbole. I mean, I’m an asshole, but I am not the asshole that can propel that bullshit.

I support signing Webb, but with limited risk. In exchange, his contract would state that if he pitches — just makes the starts — he gets paid. In my world, he’d get guaranteed, say, $2 million, with incentives to reach — random number generator — $10, $11, $12 million.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems like the exact contract I was thinking of.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

propelled bullshit

made me think of this. Trebuchets rock.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no possible way his agent would make this up just to stir up interest.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Aaaaand

the Padres just blew their wad on Ryan Ludwick.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

sch-wha?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

they just said they’d offer him arbitration. What does $7million to Ludwick may very well be about 15% of their payroll.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I fully expect the Dodgers

to wait out the free agent market, drive us all nuts, and sign someone who fell through the cracks ala hudson.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

Unless they are gonna go after Werth, Crawford, or Lee, that is a fine plan.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see it. Wait out De La Rosa. z

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, you’re stuck on De La Rosa like I’m hoping for Dunn.

Would you really want to give someone with his career numbers a lucrative 4 year deal?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think thats why he wants to wait him out

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

That wasn’t the question. If he drops until the end of free agency, we’d be getting a team friendly deal (like with Hudson.)

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

But the Rockies already (supposedly) offered him a 3 year deal. If he went too long without anyone matching that deal, wouldn’t he just go take the Rockies money?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Haven’t been following it too much (other than via twitter.) I didn’t know the Rockies had made an offer and I heard the two sides were getting “negotating fatigue.”

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

sounds right.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

DeRosa in danger of Jody Reeding himself perhaps.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He gonna play left field?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

that and DH

maybe give Cabrera an occasional day off at 1st

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I just find it far more likely that cabrera becomes the Dh and Dunn the 1B. Dunn said he doesn’t want to DH and Miguel Cabrera has DHed before.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

If Cabrera wants to play first, he will play first. If he wants to DH, he will DH. Cabrera is too good of a hitter to be making changes (some players can’t adjust to DH only.)

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I can get behind this. It isn’t the Ethier won’t be willing to play LF argument. It’s Miguel Friggin Cabrera.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That is a pretty impressive 3 and 4.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

does this mean

we could get Maggs for LF?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a good idea.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Except for the defense part. Scary outfield...

but I’d sure as hell take his bat.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Heymann thinks Jeter can get 3 years 57 million?

Are you fucking kidding me? Thats insanity.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

I have some Altoids. Can’t pay Jeter though.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeter’s allure is curiously strong

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Have you seen the limited edition Altoids tin? I love them.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

David Young keeping up his streak of pictures without titles.

The whole concept of anything being limited edition makes me laugh. Hooray business!

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Heyman thinks that giving Joaquin Benoit three years was a good idea.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Proving that Jon Heyman will shill for any agent, not just Scott Boras.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I worked with Heyman

many years ago at a paper in Torrance. He’s moved up in the world.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You can just say Daily Breeze

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Part of my separation agreement

prevents me from doing that

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember getting a call a few years back about ordering the Daily Breeze. Told him I read the L.A. Times(this was before the Times really started to gut its content in the dailys). He told me why, “we’re the local paper!” I asked him, if they were local, how come you guys don’t focus on Torrance more. He then claimed well, they were actually regional.

Then he tried to offer a subscription for a few cents off the new stands price.

All I was really for an answer was that nothing fucking happens in Torrance.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Torrance is the poorest planned city ever.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

You never been to Santa Ana.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not very familiar with Santa Ana

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Its the county seat of Orange County, and subsequently its shitting hole in a lot of areas of the city. Its a 350,000 city built for 100,000 and looks like it.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Its just shitty

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, the surrounding cities and areas make sure that nobody they don’t like can live in them. Irvine in particular is good at this.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Should I take my lunch early and watch USA-South Africa? I never heard of any of the US players on this roster.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

You’d be much better off spending your lunch watching USA For Africa.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

i wasnt talking to you

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna watch online, yeah

You’ve never heard of any of ‘em? There’s a few recognizable names here:
Here’s the U.S. MNT lineup vs. South Africa: 18-Brad Guzan (capt.);13-Eric Lichaj, 21-Clarence Goodson, 5-Tim Ream, 12-Jonathan Bornstein; 15-Logan Pause, 16-Brian Carroll; 8-Robbie Rogers, 11-Eddie Gaven, 7-Alejandro Bedoya; 20-Robbie Findley.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry I took you literally

but yeah definite;y some guys I know very little about, some who give me Pause. ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Bornstein fucking sucks. I don’t know how he keeps getting international play.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

he is ariight. that’s it

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

and no other options at LB

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't know either

Incriminating photos?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I want to kill Jonathan Bornstein and Robbie Findley. I see no point of having them on the roster. The friendly should be used for any potential 20 and under player to make it for 2014.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

kill, huh? Tell us how you really feel. ;)

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I also wished they dumped Coach Bradley. The more I see him coach, the more I think he’s Jim Tracy in a blazer.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The players on the US 20 and under team

are busy playing in another tournament in a few days.
http://www.ussoccer.com/News/U-20-MNT/2010/11/U20-Squad-Set-for-Torneo-de-las-Americas-in-Kennesaw-Ga-in-late-November.aspx

I’m sure they’ll get more chances to prove their stuff over this next year.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You have a great U-20 squad, espacially with strikers... I'm not worry about your national team...

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Nov 17, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Why does Fangraph

not show McDonald as a Pirate? Was it a figment of our imagination and it didn’t really happen?
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5523&position=P

Also have to like the Bill James projection.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 17, 2010 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

brb

stabbing myself in the eye

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Click on “Show Partial Seasons”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the time of year

where I keep accidentally clicking on college basketball articles thinking they are about football, and then get annoyed.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

That sounds racist.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish Bud Black was good enough to not lose 11 straight

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

One more regular season win by the Padres, one fewer championship for the Giants.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Only people who didn’t know the Pads suck was the Pads.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

McNabb deal starting to make more sense - From Yahoo
McNabb’s agent, Fletcher Smith, clarified some of the details of McNabb’s deal Tuesday. He says while the contract is worded so that it has "$40 million in guarantees," the Redskins do have an option to cut McNabb at the end of the season with no further money due.

McNabb receives a $3.5 million bonus this year as part of the new agreement, but the rest of the five-year, $78 million package would come to naught if the team decides to cut ties.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmQOooWUGGyjv9BKn1PVelM5nYcB?slug=ap-redskins-mcnabbscontract

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Shannon Brown

is looking for a nickname. TBLA, I choose you!

Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club

by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

You want to call Shannon Brown “True Blue LA”?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be awesoke.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't they do that last year?

I don’t remember what they picked, but I voted for “Downtown” Shannon Brown. With the threes he’s been sinking, the name is quite apt.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what I call him

he can shoot from downtown, and he can fly down the downtown expressway to the basket.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “not bad for a chick” Brown?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Bad Bad Shannon Brown

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

what a terrible nickname

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

“Oh what a shot by who cares!”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

this was my first response, but it came off corny in my head.

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of

“If you get a piece of it, I’ll let you name it”

CRACK

“I’d uh, call it The Masterbator”

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike Piazza

(for his performance in the All-Star exhibition contest)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

ooooooooh

now that’s a burn.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't like ShanWOW?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “Shannon Brown” Brown

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “Dairy Creamer” Brown – Chris Berman

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Berman

Shannon “Eastbound and” Brown

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “It only takes three inches of water to” Brown

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “What Can Brown Do For You”

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

What about shortening that to “Ups” (pronouncing it, rather than an acronym)?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Shannon “Ups” Brown. What can Shannon Brown do for you?

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Kwame was totally undeserving of “UPS.”

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Julie

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Doherty

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh come on, you’d be happy if it meant the Dodgers get the last spot in the playoffs.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I would much rather have a baseball game every day or almost every day than wait a week inbetween series. The World Series will be played in Nov. in either case.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

That has nothing to do with this

They can just change the scheduling to alleviate this concern. I don’t want extra playoff teams.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

But they won’t, and you know that.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

But adding extra playoff teams doesn’t change that, either.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

But at least there’s be more baseball overall. Which is all I care about.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldnt be. Whats the point of a 162 season if 12 teams are gonna make the Playoffs?

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

you want to take a dump in the middle of New York?

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I always want to do that.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

“We’re gonna need a bigger diaper.”

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

to fill with Indian food?

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

callback!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

not mentioned here is that expanding the playoffs is always on the table and discussed at Winter Meetings. It’s just on of those business things that comes up

by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It is overly cynical

to think that x% of a team like Pittsburgh’s reasoning for signing a pitcher like Chan Ho Park is simply to spin him for prospects at the deadline?

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

That’s been Pittsburghs plan for about 15 years.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

/Trades Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton for Jose Hernandez

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I just assume that is Oakland Athletic SOP

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Or to flip them.

And its not cynical since Ned just proved this past trading deadline that he’ll trade talent for veterans. Scotty Pods and Dotel were both on one year deals.

by Tripon on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

White Sox

are willing to discuss dealing Gavin Floyd

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

That's a great nickname

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

reply fail?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m laughing because this commenter on MLBTR, everytime there is a rumor about any player he’s the first one to post and it’s always related to “Get it done, Ned!”

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there was a guy

making fun of him a few comments down.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn Dodgers are “interested” in a lot of pitchers and stuff right now huh

by LAD17 on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like to see them do something on the offensive side next. There should be plenty of suitable #5 starters available even into Jan and Feb.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

What if we go hardcore on pitching (i.e. more starter(s) and relievers) and use the offense already in house? Will that work?

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

Hold on let me call October 2010 and find out.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Oct 2009

might have something to say.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Along with Manny Ramirez and Orlando Hudson.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

The problem is

Ned will always be tempted by some cheap veteran stopgap and that plans out the window.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm on record

as saying I think it might. Loney can’t be as godawful next year as he was in the 2nd half, I just won’t believe it. I also think Kemp could very easily bounce back from last year. With our pitching our offense wouldn’t have to be great.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Loney might not be god awful next year, but even his good stretch last year was about an .830 POS, which still isn’t impressive for his position. Next year he he’ll be less bad than his second half, but he’ll also be less good than his first half

by Mike Dennis on Nov 17, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

In context

the misspelling of OPS is really funny here.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I never said any different

I’m simply saying the offense will be better then it was in the 2nd half, and that with our pitching we might be able to get away with someone like Loney at 1st.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

We have 102M already in the can. If the budget is 115, we can pick up a really good 5th starter, Barajas and some middle relief.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we could also sneak in an upgrade to the offense somewhere

I think someone like Maggs or Konerko might slip through like Abreau did a few years ago and can be had for a reasonable 1 year deal.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Several players could be had that would help out our offense and not cost a bundle, like Maggs, Lee, Hall.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think Derrek Lee will necessarily be cheap.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not cheap, but probably 1 yr but I can’t see him getting more than $8M.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Where does the $102MM come from? Is that assuming arb raises for Theriot, Martin and Loney per Eric’s worksheet?

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, I just pulled it from the sidebar.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

We lived through 2003 once, I don’t really want to do it again.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Its nice to want things

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

All I really want is for Rod Barajas to not be the starting catcher. Is that too much to ask?

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If your biggest concern is Rod Barajas being the starting catcher, your probably fucked anyways?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Any team that thinks of Rod Barajas in a productive role is doomed.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Define productive

carrying around Kershaw’s jock strap might be considered productive by some.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems a bit too reasonable to me.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS: DODGERS NOT TRADING KEMP
One team official who kicked the tires says of the Dodgers, “They ain’t trading Matt Kemp.”

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings101117

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

much as WE already knew that

hopefully it makes everyone else shut the fuck up about it now.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

not a chance

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Very interesting story on sports press credentialing

Scott Raab of Esquire was denied press credentials to the Heat because he has been unprofessional in several tweets about LeBron James. For instance…

But they haven’t quit. Look in the mirror, motherfucker. You’re a fucking loser and always will be. @KingJames Sanchez is wearing them down
#WhoreOfAkron just woke up. Go fuck yourself, you gutless punk. @ KingJames Sanchez is wearing them down

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

wow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Good, nice to see someone held accountable for that.

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Raab has a right to say anything he likes, but the Heat have no responsibility to help him do that.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Raab is absoutely right, though, that this helps him. I would think that the publicity folks for the Heat brought that up… but the amount it helps Raab is probably small, and the amount of personal satisfaction in refusing him is probably large.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Those tweets are not subtle.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Searching the #WhoreOfAkron hashtag is a tad disturbing, and also funny.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

More funny than disturbing to me

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes tweets that Oakland offered Beltre five years and $64MM, the same contract he signed with Seattle before the 2005 season.

Well, there goes my hope for Beltre.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

To me, what made Dunn and Beltre attractive as FA were their relatively lower costs.

If they are going to spend big money on a long-term deal, I would rather it go to Crawford or Werth.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

and we'll get Eric Chavez

sweet!

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball is just stange enough that there is that 1% chance

that Eric Chavez could have a better year then Beltre.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Chavez just taught me

that you can have a negative ops

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

I can see him landing in Oakland. With that pitching staff, they could be good. Too bad they traded CarGo.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought last year the A's also made a run at him

but he refused and went to Boston.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he want to go to another cavernous ballpark?

or does he not give a shit since this will be his last big contract anyways?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He can always get himself traded to… oh let’s say the Reds in the final year of the deal, put up huge numbers, and have another calling card.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels where interested

perhaps they up the offer just a bit and snag him? I would rather play in SoCal then Oakland, and for a probably better team.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

MlbTradeRumors makes it sound like there is a bidding war going on

for Justin Upton

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

It really should be 29 teams doing the bidding.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. One of the more disappointing things over the past several years has been the superstars/potential superstars traded for bupkis — “That guy went for THAT?! Where was our GM?! etc.”

I want a deal where the reaction is, “Whoa, they gave a lot, but look who they got!” Maybe the last of those was Manny. Or maybe Beckett for Hanley. Am I missing a recent deal like that?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think the manny deal counts

he was basically traded for Bay, and then traded again for Laroche.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It counts

Just look at Boston’s perspective: They traded Manny, Craig Hansen, and Brandon Moss, and got Jason Bay.

I think that qualifies as "Whoa, they gave a lot, but look who they got!"

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh thats right

Bay played there the year after too. So yeah, I guess that does count.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

D-backs

want a Texiera like return for him though.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

A busted prospect in a no-hit first baseman? We got one of those.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong Tex trade

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

They have to, their future rides on what they get for him

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

indeed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m hoping the Angels trade for him rather than the Braves one.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I insist: Loney for Upton.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Cowboys & Aliens trailer

It is out today. Yahoo Movies to see it.

What say you?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

Is your job riding on my answer?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No. it is a competitor’s product.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBKU9WU_wLo

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

you should watch the trailer

its pretty awesome looking. Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon Favreau movie?

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I will watch it

50/50 on whether in the theater or not though. Didn’t think the trailer was that great, but cast and crew looks solid enough.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Posting slow for everyone or should I reboot?

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Seems okay for me.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine for me, and my work computer sucks.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Luck Cory
The Rays signed righty reliever Cory Wade, says Eddy (via Twitter). The 27-year-old had a 2.27 ERA with 6.4 K/9 and 1.9 BB/9 in 71.1 innings for the Dodgers in 2008, but he missed most of 2009 and all of 2010 after having shoulder surgery.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

And Justin Miller

The Mariners have signed right-hander Justin Miller according to Baseball America’s Matt Eddy (via Twitter). In 24.1 innings with the Dodgers last year, the 33-year-old pitched to a 4.44 ERA with 11.1 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9. The Mariners are his ninth organization.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't realize we cut him loose

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Both were minor league free agents. They cut themselves loose.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Coooool..

Didn’t know he was even released. It was fun buddy.

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by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Luck Cory +1

Always liked that guy. I hope he gets some serious cash before his arm falls off for good.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

BCG’s BB% was a bigger deterrent in my mind than his age or level of competition. Though I suppose it was a combination of the three that led to him missing the top 20.

by Table on Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

Cant find the comments

But Harrison Ford does look pretty fuckin grumpy in the movie trailer

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by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

TONY PARKER AND EVA LONGORIA ARE GETTING DIVORCED (FOR REALSIES)

says ESPN

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Brent Barry

With his most surprising performance since winning the slam dunk contest.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I still say the Clippers should hang a banner for that at Staples just so they have something on the wall.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

2006 Western Conference Semi-Finalist

BTW, there’s some craptastic Clipper games coming up that I’ll be checking the resale market for.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

make sure you cross-reference with the LB State home schedule.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would the publicist go out of her way to issue that denial yesterday only to have this happen today?

That’s why god gave us the words “no comment.”

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What this team needs is a lil Moneyball approach

With 4 solid starters in place and a good pen with Kuo and Jensen in tow, the jettisoning of Loney, Martin and Broxton for some more youth screams to be done. Something like $17mil would be freed up and we could then go dumpster diving for a lefty 1b like LaRoche(platoon with Blake), go big for Fielder offering prospects, platoon Gibbons or Sands at 1b with Blake, sign Betemit or Andy Laroche, trade for a LH 3b or better still a young 3b like Morel from CWS, or just overpay to bring Beltre back home. Sign Barajas or Torrealba to play with Ellis.
We’d likely be a better organization long-term and maybe this year too.
We still have time to secure a 3b or 1b and non-tender Loney.
Surprise me Ned!

by megaballs on Nov 17, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

My question is always, why wants to take on our overpriced contracts? If we have to send money back, is it still worth it?

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh never mind I see you’re saying non-tender not trade.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Our luck..

Non tender Loney.. Then we fail to sign anyone. A Gibbons/Sands platoon doesn’t seem to good.

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by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Broxton is still under contract.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, but I thought the original comment was to trade Loney+Broxton.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I think many GMs would bite on Broxton despite $7mil this year and maybe a couple of GMs on $5mil Loney…Martin non-tender and lowball offer. We could just sign Beltre for example and then trade or non-tender Loney to offset the $…then cheap LH platoon with Blake at 1b. December 2 is the date.

This guy did a good job explaining the view(old news here?)

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/loneys-trade-value/

by megaballs on Nov 17, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It always sounds so easy

when we talk about it on the internet doesn’t it?

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Go younger!

by trading for fielder? I don’t get it.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

We’d get younger by adding a good prospect or two for Loney or Broxton. And giving a chance in 2011,2012 to the Sands, Trays, Dejesus of the world. With the non-tender of Martin and losing Brox and Loney , there’s alot of moola. Fielder is a long shot though.

It is so easy on the internet, but trading Broxton and taking anything for Loney while non-tendering Martin is not that far fetched. Trading for Fielder or AGonz is far fetched.
I’d say SF trading Pablo to the Dodgers, SD trading AGonz to the Dodgers or AZ trading Justin Upton to the Dodgers is a much longer than long shot….ain’t happening

by megaballs on Nov 17, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

We aren’t trading Loney and/or Broxton for prospects.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Trading for fielder

would require we give up prospects though, and more prospects then we would be getting back for trading loney or broxton or even both.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

And giving a chance in 2011,2012 to the Sands, Trays, Dejesus of the world.

You can give them a chance in 2012 without giving up on 2011 before it’s even started.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

you can’t suggest Moneyball and overpaying for ANYONE in the same sentence.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Unstoppable is bad, huh?

That’s too bad, because I like me some Denzel, and I LOVE me some Chris Pine.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

is that bad or good?

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Good.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

good

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

it means 85% of people+critics liked it.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still guessing whomever didn't like it

isn’t a Tony Scott fan, ie probably didn’t like Top Gun.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Scott film

that I probably enjoyed the most: Crimson Tide.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't he direct True Romance?

I haven’t seen it since it came out, so maybe my opinion would be different now, but I remember liking it.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

but I never saw it, strangely enough.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Tarantino was the writer.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy Crap! It got an 85% on Rotten? I mean, I normally trust Rotten, but that movie was just plain unbelievable. I was entertained, but I would wait for a Greencine rental if I were you.

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

:) Speaking of which

posted a piece yesterday on Tony Scott – unstoppable or unstable
http://daily.greencine.com/archives/007935.html

Sounds like it’s entertaining yeah, but will prepare to check my brain at the door.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Denzel and Pine are ok and the movie is meh. I’m willing to suspend belief as needed, but there were a couple smallish things that really annoyed me, like a news helicopter essentially stunt flying, and after making a big point of the deadliness of the cargo and evacuating a town, having tons of emergency personnel visible in the vicinity of the derailment spot when they should be taking cover. Also, upper middle management as villain is pretty cliched by now. It felt like a movie that should have seen a summer release, not November.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw a good movie last night

Adventureland by the Superbad writer/director. Far from perfect, but I liked it a lot.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I really dug that movie

plus it’s got Martin Starr from F&G in it! Kristen Stewart looking cute, and Jesse Eisenberg at his Eisenbergiest.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s funny you say that. I felt genuinely pleased to see Martin Starr from F&G (a DT rec) looking so good and shedding [most] of his nerdiness.

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The helicopters were hilarious. And if they could try the guy hanging by the helicopter once….try it again!

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose LH Chavez and RH Blake makes some sense for 2011.

by megaballs on Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

until chavez’s back explodes mid-march

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 17, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he can turn into our Carl Pavano

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Nov 17, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Back explodin’ that is

by megaballs on Nov 17, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think we’re appreciating how bad Chavez was last year.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure we are

but I’d also say that if the Dodgers work him out, and then sign him, they might have seen something they like. We thought Gibbons was a joke after missing two years and being putrid, but it is not like he did not have some value in 2010. My only point on Chavez is that if we work him out and sign him, that is a sign they liked what they saw and we should keep an open mind.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, it just seems like this is being put under “expected to happen” instead of “won’t, but hell, you never know.”

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Kavula, the Thanksgiving sandwich you rec’d is very good. The wait over at LB Cafe, on the other hand, is less than ideal.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry, I’ve only been there on a weekend for early lunch — didn’t know about the crowds.

But yeah, it is a tasty sandwich.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanksgiving sandwich

Is it turkey, cranberries, and gravy in a sandwich?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Turkey, stuffing and mayo. Cranberry sauce on the side.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Stuffing might be my favorite Thanksgiving food

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Stuffing might be my least favorite food

my wife hates me for this.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Un-American!

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You gotta go exotic

Mix in some sausage and apples and what not.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

My brother Greg I believe made White Castle stuffing last year.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

do you really stuff it, or eat it as a side?

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to stuff the turkey to get your stuffing to have the desirable flavors.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

our family does both

though that might have stopped in recent years because it dries out the bird?

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Drape bacon slices over the top of the gobbler!

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Often people do both because they want more stuffing than will fit in the turkey.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose mine would be "dressing"

In a crock pot, on the side. My sister will probably end up making a traditional stuffing to put inside the bird.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in charge of making the stuffing for Thanksgiving this year.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Go stuff yourself!

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm proud of all of you

I didn’t get a FTFY regarding stuffing being my favorite thing.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The words we would have needed

where missing from the end of the sentence. I don’t like adding words, just removing them.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm doing

roasted brussells sprouts with garlic and pancetta

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a number of places around town you can get a Thanksgiving sandwich. Tally Rand in Burbank makes a good one.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I have passed by that place many times, yet never ventured in. Worthwhile?

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a diner

But sure, it’s a pretty good one. Don’t make a special trip but as good as any other diner.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 17, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That sandwich

is really the main reason to roast a turkey.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Internet order before you go!

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers have never

had a Chavez at the Ravine.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Not even Angel Chavez on opening day 2008?

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice. He never played (and thus didn’t show up in my searches), but you are right, and the team did open at home that year.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand my cat

he follows me around the house but really just wants to lay near me all the time. He doesn’t really want to be pet, he doesn’t want attention, he just wants to sleep in my vicinity.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

This.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Both of you are teetering on the brink of being obelisked for that

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I rec’d it……

sorry

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If we had this discussion two years ago

this blog would be quite different.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

cannot agree with this

cats are smarter than dogs

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t all cats act that way?

I’m allergic to cats so I have no personal experience

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If I was allergic to cats

I would never admit it, because then the cats would have the upper hand in our rivalry.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to think I wanted to be a vet and got a job at a vet clinic in high school. I quickly figured out that I would never be a vet.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Being allergic to cats would seem to be a good sign that being a vet was not your calling

unless you wanted to work on the big farm animals and do this for a living

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that really something you would call a “farm animal”?

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No, each cat has their own personality

but they are all batshit crazy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

this

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife is allergic to cats. We’ve rescued a couple of kittens and nursed them back to health before placing them in good homes. Wife’s allergies kick in once the kitten starts to groom itself, so it must be the saliva that she is allergic to.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It is, it's the saliva that creates the dander

that they build up from grooming themselves, You can cut down on that greatly nowadays with specially made cleaning pads/wipes, and even nutritional supplements. My dad and sister are allergic and can now come over and visit due to us doing these things.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

If a cat ever gets out in my neighborhood

we call them “coyote food”. It is just easier not to have cats. My wife has to dose up on the Claritin before visiting my parents, or other cat homes.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Any pet gets out in my neighborhood and its coyote food

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If the cat (or other pet) is not too big, they have to watch out for the owls also.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Here the other danger

is Raccoons and Possums

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I fuckin Hate Possums.

I hate living in the city limits because I can’t shoot em everytime I see em.

I’m never fast enough to catch em to beat em with a bat.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

My backyard is raccoon playground. 2011 will be the year i take the yard back.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Killing Rodents is fun.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

these MFers are big as dogs

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Its too bad too

I swear my Shiba wants to sleep outside.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

If I could get any dog, it would be one of those. Does it shed a lot?

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine is a mix

so its not too bad, as long as you keep up maintenance with a brush(I use a “furminator”). I can see why a cat guy would like one, she totally acts like a cat sometimes.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

haha I don’t know if I’m a cat guy or not, I just like the way they look.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

They are rad dogs

Easy to potty train, like to keep themselves clean, but independent and can be a bit stubborn.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My cat got eaten by a coyote in the backyard. At least they left the head so I had something to bury :(

There are “lost cat” signs up all over the neighborhood all the time. AFAIK, none of them have ever been found.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

newbies out of the house are probably done for, but we have a number of outside cats in our neighborhood that have learned how to deal with the Coyotes. When our dogs got out I think they stayed alive because they were big and they together they could handle a Coyote.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

My cat was a champion. Big hunter, only wanted to be outside, and survived out there for years. He must have gotten careless or complacent. I haven’t gotten another pet since then.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry about that

just takes one second of carelessness.

We had a quandry a few weeks ago. A Coyote had killed a cat in the middle of the street but ran off when we honked the horn. I went back to check on the cat and he was dead. When I went back to my car the Coyote flew by us grabbed the cat and headed into brush. I wondered if I should make the effort to get the cat away which i thought I could do because he was having so much trouble holding it in his moutch so I could call notify the owner, or simply let the Coyote do what nature intended. I ended up letting the Coyote alone but later wondered if I’d made the right decision. As a cat owner I’d have wanted to know, on the other hand I’d rather the Coyote eat the meal then have me bury my cat.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I was really upset, of course, because that cat had been with me through many cities, apartments, and houses and was just a great little cat in every way.

I also understood that he died as he lived; he loved to be outside and had taken down many mice, moles, rabbits, etc. in his day. With regards to what you saw in the road, in general it’s probably best not to get in the way, and since the cat was already dead you had no good option anyway.

by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To the cat, you’re the thing that provides food, otherwise, you’re taking up space.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Cats are unappreciative by nature. But they’re fuzzy, so lots of people love ’em.

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

didn’t see you as a cat guy.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw ivdown as a cat guy.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew Ivdown was the crazy cat lady of TBLA?

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm fairly certain my wife and I own that title

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

do you have multiple cats?

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I have had upto 12 cats

we have lost seven in the last 18 months as they all hit the 18- 20 year old mark.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

oh dear

I’m sorry.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We knew it was going to be a tough year

but last week our favorite Indiana Jones finally gave up the ghost. When your fifty and you lose pets you have had for 20 years you wonder if you should start again, because by the time they are done so are you. On the other hand I haven’t had a kitten to punch in years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

okay that beats our 4

and we definitely have reached our limit. Only have that many because we each had 2 before we met (actually my g/f got her 2nd against her will from her family right after we met). But we love em all. and am not looking forward to those days…

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I have 5 cats at my house

None of them actually mine. My sister and mom abandoned them here when they moved out of state, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 17, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a 15 year relationship with one. i do not like dogs. not that I wish any ill will towards them, I just want them to stay away from me.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew there was something in you that was redeemable

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Never would’ve thought that about you.

I like dogs, big dogs.

Oh well.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you Keith.

Of course, I’ve always wanted to like cats. They seem cool enough (from as close as I can get to them.)

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

My Mom has 2 cats. They are okay…..

One of them is the reason cats get a bad rap, that cat does nothing but eat and hiss at people.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

We have found the perfect pet match for Eric!

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My Mom would give it away to a good home right now!

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

they can be really chill

I like dogs too (and I don’t see the point of a dog you can punt, just saying), but my schedule wouldn’t allow me to have a dog. Now, a cat that sleeps in my room for 18 hours a day? yes please.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see the point of a dog you can punt

To punt it

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Mexican woman have a fetish for Chihuahua's

it is part of their DNA.

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

My cousin has two little mini dogs. One of them peed on me in the car driving from Seattle to Orange County (I was in the passenger seat).

I have vowed revenge on that dog. One day, mark my words, I will urinate on that dog.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Chihuahau's hate me

but I think they dislike most men, they always seem to bond with woman. Even after I got the Miata he hated me:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t remember the type of dogs he has; I can never remember the type.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Man

its sad how many Chihuahuas and Pit Bulls there are at the pound. Pissed me off so much.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to get a pitbull. Is that weird?

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The Fonz would only have a pitbull.

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

mostly

i want to, at some point, dress to the 9s, in killer heels, and walk my dog around Sherman Oaks. I will do this when I am tired of being single.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

nope.

They are sweet dogs. I’ve had 2. They are very loving.

Mine never even barked at a stranger.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

hell no

they are awesome adorable dogs who have a bad rap because of assholes.

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. When I used to live in an apartment I was going through pet withdrawls and a cat would have been perfect.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I like dogs

big ones, small ones, giant ones, medium ones.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m more of a dog person. I like cats well enough, and tend my parent’s cats when they go out of town, but I don’t really want cats as pets.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This may come as a surprise

but I have never in my life ever had any type of pet.

It’s why I’m unloving.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

I’ve had 2 1/2 years of my life where I didn’t have a dog.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

6 when I was a child

3 in college. Never again.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

My Grandfather bought me a German Shepherd when I was born. He died when I was 14.

Weak Sauce.

I’ve had probably 10 dogs since.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Big dogs die young

why don’t big people die young? Or do they? I know they slouch like crazy and eventually come back to my size but do they die earlier?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably. I’m not going to look it up, but I’m sure you’re right.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They do.
Longevity studies of deceased US veterans found an inverse relation between height and longevity.13Evaluation of height and longevity of deceased professional base-ball (sic) players and 19th century French men and women also showed an inverse relation, as shown in ​figures11 and 22.14In a review of literature on height, body size, and longevity, we found several studies that showed a negative correlation between height and longevity.2

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071721/

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna mention that David Young will be posting something on this shortly.

:)

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So the last laugh

is that we live longer at a point when we’d rather be dead. Great

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

suck on that!

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

speak for yourself

I plan on flirting with young girls until I am 100. Of course by then, 65 will look pretty damn young to me!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

14 is pretty good for a German Shepherd

We got one when I was 11. She was a great dog. We had to put her down when she was not quite 13.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

he may have been 13. Either way he was pretty old.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Man that sucks

I’ve had all sorts of fish, toads, newts, frogs, dogs, cats, and chickens.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

so you ARE from Santa Ana

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Close

Costa Mesa.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He has the pickup and you have the dogs. Go figure.

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by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a Choc Lab that freakin loves to ride in the back of the truck.

I left her in the back of mine for a night. She didn’t care.

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I also have a chocholate lab

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So does Hershey's

It’s where they make candy bars.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

they don't mix it by waterfall though

it’s the only way to get it juuuuuuust right.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Good chance

when I get a yard big enough for 3 dogs, I’ll get a lab

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep resisting the “under the porch” joke. I’m trying, I’m really trying.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm late but

I’ve got two black labs. Just this weekend my puppy decided to climb out the car window while I was driving. She was hanging by her back legs until iI could pull over.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on the breed of cat

Some are very much lap cats, others, like Maine Coons, like to be near people, next to you, but not on you. They are independent but want to also be social and near you. So it depends on the breeds.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Which ones like to be Pepper Steak?

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

he's just a rescue kitty

he isn’t that crazy, he just wants to be near (but not really on) me. He eats all the time and is nervous. In those respects, he is like his mama!

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

except for the not wanting to be petted thing

my older dog does that too. My puppy seems to be much more independent.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep that pimp hand strong. No one likes a needy roommate.

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F

by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Aguadelo's goal for the US MNT was awesome

for a pointless, and mostly crummy international game where the US would take a tie given all the newbies playing in it, taking the lead in So Africa with a goal from a 17 yr old newcomer is awesoke.

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by underdog on Nov 17, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

50 years ago

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Julie Newmar is timeless.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

A friend has this weird obsession

she calls her DNA museum, where she likes to steal items that celebrities have used to eat or drink with. Things like cups, forks, spoons, etc. Her last subject was a fork used by Julie Newmar at a restaurant in Pasadena a couple years ago. I donated a coffee stirrer used by the red head daughter from 6 feet under.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot

but I’ve liked all the CatWoman since then better.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That hip to waist ratio is FANTASTIC!

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that last photo

signed “To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar”?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 17, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to love He-Man

by silverwidow on Nov 17, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I have lots in common with you.

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You have Michael White comenting issues…

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I would say it to his face too. no big deal.

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

fair enough.

get a Black Lab, he will appreciate that

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He-man

was pretty Awesoke. Thundercats was basdass was well.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

as well*

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they should make another He-Man movie and HHH should be He-Man

by keithc13 on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Thor was the role that man was born to play.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Jacked dude who hits stuff with a big hammer. Name a better person.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Captain Hammer

(the hammer is his…)

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Hemsworth, the guy who is going to play Thor and is actually an actor. I used to like wrestling too, but they shouldn’t but up for big movie roles outside of the Rock.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like you don’t need to be an actor to get the subtle nuances of Thor.

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a lot more to Thor than hitting stuff with a hammer.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying “by Odins beard!”?

by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Glaring at Loki

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

it's in

development hell.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He-Man is awesome. Thundarr is also pretty cool.

by OB12 on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you coming to karaoke?

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn’t like to come out and play

by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So

No Offspring then?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

if you’re under 18, you won’t be doing any time.

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by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

that video was shot in San Pedro

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why it sucked?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

what am i supposed to say to that?

by delias man on Nov 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So much for Oakland's outfield surplus

The Blue Jays are on the verge of acquiring outfielder Rajai Davis from the Athletics, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Minor league reliever Trystan Magnuson is one of the players heading to Oakland in the deal, MLBTR has learned.

by BFDC on Nov 17, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Trystan Magnuson

There’s the guy to play He-Man!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason I like Raja Davis

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Because his name is like Raja Bell and Raja annoyed Kobe awhile ago so you like Rajai by association.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Raja Bell

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 17, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there goes that theory.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 17, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It is hard to check in

and figure what is going on after folks have been talking for half the day.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

hah

hey at least it stayed on topic for most of the morning

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by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Besides Upton

not much. (I’m catching up too.)

by kinbote on Nov 17, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

So when I asked if Beltre was holding out for 65/5, I was overexaggerating. What’s this crap on MLBTR that says he’s wanting Torii Hunter money? (90/5)

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by G.Scott on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

its nice to want things

isn’t his agent Boras?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously though

I’m not even sure he can get 15 per, or even get 5 years, let alone 5 years and 18 million per.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 17, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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