Duck Talk: Staying With The Lowside We Know
For some of his past interviews you can check out the Duck Talk Section where we ask the questions we want to ask and try to see through the clichéd responses we normally get. For those of you new to Duck Talk, this most of this is a complete fabrication based on interviews within my troubled mind.
Aflac Duck: It is Nov 17th, and the biggest question seems to be what are you going to do with Russell Martin and James Loney?
Ned Colletti:
There are options. But that said, we're partial to those guys we know; to those who play for us...
Aflac Duck: You seem to be very partial to players you have seen. So far this winter you have re-signed Hiroki Kuroda and Ted Lilly giving you basically the same rotation that ended the year. You have exercised the option on Podboy, and it sounds like you are leaning towards keeping Martin and Loney.Would it be safe to say the Dodger Marketing Mantra in 2011 will be "Staying with the lowside we know"
NC: Kuroda and Lilly were the 2nd and 3rd best free agent starters on the market. We did damn well to keep them in our rotation. I would not agree they are "lowside".
Aflac Duck: Point taken, but what makes you believe that Martin and Loney can deliver more tomorrow then what they have to this point today? With the lack of power on this team, there seems to be an abundance of 1st baseman on the market who could help this team more then Loney? Or Martin for that matter.
NC: Loney helps on both sides of the ball, he's our guy, you stat guys have no idea what Loney brings to this team. Martin on other hand is a total different story. Martin is our glue but with his injury the glue is starting to lose it's ability to hold the team together. Can he come back 100%?
Russell's the one that we're going to spend the most time debating, He's coming off a different kind of injury — and a serious injury. So he's somebody we've spent a lot of different conversations [on] trying to figure out what would be best."
Aflac Duck: This duck had two major pet peeves with how you handled the 2010 season. Neither would have changed the outcome of the 2010 season but both are integral to what might have been a better start to the 2011 season. First off, your handling of the last two Dodger Minor League Pitchers of the Year. Your group decided that you'd rather hang your hat on the arm of a Rule Five guy who had fringe stuff, who had never pitched beyond A ball instead of two above average arms ready to contribute at the major league level. Why was Monk given so much latitude but your farm grown boys James McDonald and Scott Elbert got no such rope? Why was some guy with little upside given so many chances but the guys that DeJon Watson has groomed for that spot were ignored to the point that one quit, and eventually one was sent packing in easily the worst trade of your reign as Dodger GM? Why Monk and not McDonald? Why Monk and not Elbert? Why Why Why
NC: Scott Elbert was a wild ass lefty and not ready for prime time. Monk has a chance to help this team in the future, and our group think just felt we couldn't afford to let him go back to the Phillies. We did not know at the time that Scott Elbert would simply go home.
Aflac Duck: What was George Sherrill? What was Charlie Haeger? What was Russ Ortiz? What was Ramon Ortiz? Not like you were keeping Elbert on the farm because of quality in the bullpen, those guys were all firestarters.
Aflac Duck: You were quoted recently as saying
I really believe you have to have as much pitching as possible. And if there's another starter or two out there that we could go after, I'd be open-minded to doing it, Plus the bullpen is always in flux.
Just an FYI from some stupid ass duck, but you would not have to be searching for any more pitching if you'd simply trust your own pitchers and give them more then a token appearance before quitting on them and shipping them out.
NC: You talk as though James turned into Cy Young when he left us.
Aflac Duck: Well, 3.52 ERA in 11 starts is exactly what Ted Lilly did, and you gave him a three year deal. Face it Ned you really screwed the pooch on this one. James McDonald is exactly what you are searching for right now and you had it, but gave it away because you have this unhealthy fetish for relief pitchers.
NC: Relief pitching is important
Aflac Duck: Yes but when do you realize that you do a sucky job of identifying relief pitcher trade targets Your success rate in these trades is as accurate as a Vance Lovelace fastball. Let us count them down from the beginning shall we: Lance Carter, Danys Baez, Tim Hamulack, Mark Hendrickson, Scott Proctor, Roberto Hernandez, Sherrill, and finally Octavio Dotel.
NC: Some of those guys did great for us when we acquired them like Proctor and Sherrill. You are not painting a fair picture.
Aflac Duck: That is true, they did the job after you acquired them, they didn't start to suck until the regular season ended in the year they were acquired. You can hang your hat on that if you want.
Aflac Duck: That kind of brings us to the 2nd thing that worries this duck about 2011. From 2005 - 2010 the Dodgers have acquired many players at the trading deadline who have gone on to have a great two months. These players then pretty much have all sucked the following year. Players like Jose Cruz, Marlon Anderson, Scott Proctor, Belliard, and George Sherrill. Manny and Blake seem to be the exceptions and that figures because they were always everyday players. Actually never mind, I seem to have lost my point unless you sign Rod Barajas to be our everyday catcher.
Aflac Duck: You have done a great job of getting the rotation ready for 2011 by bringing back the big four who did such a fabulous job in the 2nd half last year. However the same reason the team was not successful in 2011 is still staring at the team in the face. Where will the offense come from if you bring back both Loney and Martin?
NC: That is why we are meeting every day. Can it come from internal improvement from Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, or James Loney? Can we count on a healthy Rafael Furcal? Can Casey Blake provide more offense if he is rested more? Can we find someone in left field that we can afford who will have a major impact on the offense? Can we afford to have the black hole of offense from Ryan Theriot with the team we currently have?
Aflac Duck: Right now the only plus offensive producer on the team that is a given is Andre Ethier. With Dan Uggla off the market there are no 2nd baseman who fall into that category. If you don't trade Loney and sign a 1st baseman the only place you can upgrade is left field. Were you even interested in Uggla, his power would have looked good for this lineup.
NC: Marlins, hard to deal with, remember the Miggy deal when they wanted Kemp/Kershaw and ended up with Maybin/Miller. I can't confirm but I heard they asked for Colby Rasmus and then they end up with Infante. We didn't have a career utility player who finally got to play full time and made the most of it. Oh wait we did have Jamey Carroll but they were not interested. By the way, remember last fall when you mocked my signing of Carroll? In your face DuckBoy.
Aflac Duck: I deserved that. You seem to be between a rock and a hard place. The top prospects faltered a bit last year making it harder to trade them for something useful. You couldn't give away Lambo fast enough. Every year you have traded prospects from Navarro to Santana to Josh Bell to Lambo. As of now only Carlos Santana looks like a real burn for you with question marks still out on Josh Bell and James McDonald. True Blue LA recently did their top 20 Dodger prospect list. Who should they not get attached to from this list?
NC: You geeks are something. A top 20 list? Who does that? Whatever, they should never get attached to any of our prospects because at any time a relief pitcher will catch my eye and I must have what catches my eye.
Aflac Duck: Can you believe what Boom Boom Betemit did last year? Who would have thunk that Boom Boom would have been better then any Dodger in 2010. Or Cody Ross, how about that postseason performance? And Jayson Werth, can you believe the contract he's about to sign? Isn't it awesome that all of these great stories used to be Dodgers?
NC: You can focus on that or you can focus on the great stories the Dodgers have right now. Clayton Kershaw is about to explode on the world only because they have not been paying attention, Chad Billingsley has hopefully put to rest the amateur shrinks who questioned his emotional makeup, Kuo from what I've read on TBLA had the greatest year ever for a Dodger pitcher, Kenley Jansen has to be the greatest story going moving from a catcher to a dominant setup man in less then a year. Damn, all pitchers, I've got some serious work to do. Got to go.
Breaking News:
Aflac Duck: Ned, Ned can you comment on the fact that Justin Upton is on market? Could he be the offensive juggernaut you have been searching for?
NC: We will pass, he's not a grinder, he does not get the game. We already have enough of those.
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I’m thoroughly impressed by this article and wondering if the cracks in Phil’s psyche are growing.
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The cracks
have been wide for some time.
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Very well done
NC: Scott Elbert was a wild ass lefty and not ready for prime time. McDonald was a pussy. Monk has a chance to help this team in the future, and our group think just felt we couldn’t afford to let him go back to the Phillies. We did not know at the time that Scott Elbert would simply go home.
Only thing I thought was missing :)
I’m working on a theory that there are no good GMs.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
There has to be like...
2 of them right?
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There are no good GMs, just ones with big payrolls and ones that inherited/lucked into a farm system. These are the only two factors that seem to matter.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
That doesn't explain
how the Giants won. I mean Sabean ran them down into the positions where they could draft Lincecum, Posey and Baumgartner.
Does that count as luck?
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So does that make him good, or just fortunate? What if Lincecum and Posey went in the slots they should have? What if they blow out an elbow?
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Look GMs make good and bad moves
We look examine Ned more closely since he is the Dodger GM and perhaps some deals stick out like a sore thumb but you will not find any that didn’t screw up in the last few years.
I’ve asked this before but how many trades has NC clearly “won”? The Ethier deal and the Manny deal? That’s all I can think of.
How many trades have most GMs "won"?
In a vacuum that seems low but in context?
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Marlon Anderson for Jhonny Nunez, Ronnie Belliard for Victor Garate. Juan Pierre for anything.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Have you noticed an interesting trend
Ned does well in trades where a relief pitcher coming back to us is not in the deal. Otherwise not so much. His deals for fringe starters like Seo and Hendrickson have also been failures. However hitters are another story. I think this is his scouting staff, someone on his staff is a lousy judge of pitching. On the other hand we could probably agree he was just incredibly lucky in the Marlon/Belliard deals.
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When they were first interested in Kuroda, didn’t they run Logan White out to scout him. That seemed odd, and outside his department.
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His current title
Assistant GM, Amateur and International Scouting
International was probably his domain back then too, so I stand corrected.
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I think it might be selective memory. The Marlon/Belliard deals worked great, but Lugo was a disaster and we only won that because Guzman sucked,
Meanwhile while Seo and Hendrickson sucked, Sherrill was lights out when we got him and I don’t think anyone would have predicted his 2010, Proctor was Proctor, Dotel was Dotel, etc.
When you get a fringy player for a couple months, I think it really is just luck if it works out. The problem comes from Ned valuing the reliever way more than the bench bat, when really they’re about the same.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
And because Lugo was a type-A FA
and offered arb, so Ned got two picks that were turned into Withrow (well…) and Adkins (oops).
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The Duck
kinda fingers Vance Lovelace, though he’s just spitbilling.
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Two of those trades were flipping a warm body to get a bench bat that played out of their minds for a month or two. I know I’m not the only one around here who cringes every time we’re brought up in trade rumors.
That still counts as winning to me
and I still don’t understand what you expect from him, a constant stream of big impact trades?
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Perhaps you didn't get the note
The Dodgers probably wanted to rid themselves of Lambo while he was worth anything and I am just guessing that the development group thought McDonald couldn’t succeed in LA.
That’s all well and good but were Josh Bell and Edwin Jackson huge stoners too? I still rememebr the game in San Diego where Derek Lowe left with a 5-0 lead and “all star” Lance Carter came in and started us down the road to blowing the game.
Bell looks like a fringe MLB third baseman at this point (SSS) and at the time Edwin Jackson couldn’t throw enough strikes to even warrant a callup. There is a reason the dude is 26 years old and playing for his fifth team.
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And there is a reason teams are fearing out shutdown bullpen of Danys Baez, Lance Carter, George Sherrill, and Octavio Dotel. 4 closers nailing games down for us in 2011.
We traded those guys for the wrong people, sure, but neither Josh Bell or Edwin Jackson would be helping us now.
The year Jackson was out of options he had an 8 ERA at the All Star break. There’s no way we would have hung on to him.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
This is the same as us hanging onto Werth
based on the circumstances at the time, he was the (fairly) logical choice to get cut.
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They could have not signed Ricky Ledee.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
The top brass in our organization (or any for that matter) make a lot of fuckin money to get this shit right though. Yeah we can be say those decisions sound logical at the time, but we don’t get paid to make those decisions either. At some point somebody in the braintrust has to say hey what a minute we can straighten this guy out.
I think you are missing my point
in that again, his performance shouldn’t be evaluated in a vacuum. What is the success rate of other GMs in trades?
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It's a matter of recency error
It doesn’t matter who the Dodgers GM/owner is, they’ll never be good enough, spend enough money, get the right players, etc etc etc. I don’t think it’ll be a merciful day when Ned leaves because that means our team has gone from great to average to poor. I’d much rather see the team succeed with Ned than have to suck so bad that we replace the GM again. 2005 was no fun.
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If the team gets sold in the near future
I would bet a lot of money that Ned would get fired.
Not if the team is successful. He may get fired as a scapegoat, but not for any other reason than to sell some new vision to the newspapers and public.
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A new owner
will want to:
1. Be profitable
2. Compete
I don’t see anyone being a Dodger owner and change that philosophy.
Irrelevant
they don’t have to actually change the SOP at all, they just have to change the perception.
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What perception
Someone or a group of wealthy individuals will buy the Dodgers if and when that time comes. They will be better off than almost anyone who plays to see the game.
I suppose if they don’t do anything that allows the public to see into their private lives, that would help.
But I don’t think they will be much different than the current owners.
i'd say your wrong
O’Malley much different then Fox who is much different then McCourts
No one has maximized revenues like the McCourts or fired more employee’s then the McCourts even after the initial purge that is expected of new ownership. In fact it was only a year ago when Frank used his power to purge the team of Jamie supporters. I’m not sure how you can make the above comment with a straight face.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Upset is not part of his equation
you have stated that any ownership group
But I don’t think they will be much different than the current owners.while history has shown us that the McCourts have been as different about running a franchise as the Southland has seen. Do you really think the McCourts have run the team the same as their predecessors? And that new owners would run it the same why? Have you ever been in a private company who had new ownership? Nothing stays the same, sure the goals are the same, maximize profits but they wouldn’t have bought the company if they didn’t think they could do it better by doing things differently.
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If Frank McCourt had the intelligence of a mature cucumber and left well enough alone along with having two nickels to rub together, he wouldn’t have gotten rid of Dan Evans and we would’ve had Vlad in right field. I feel another sob coming on.
by dangerisland on Nov 17, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
They were never going to get
Vlad because of the timing of the purchase. Also, I just can think what Dan Evans would have done so differently than anyone else there. Plus the fact he hasn’t gotten a GM job since makes me wonder how the baseball establishment feels about his GM skills.
It Says Nothing About What The Establishment Thought Of His GM Skills. Evans Didn't Stay In The Industry
He runs his owns sports agency, and is apparently making more money than he ever did as a GM.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 17, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I am just saying that
it bugs me when people believe so and so would be better than the guy you know. Heck you don’t know that and even the guys you like often do the same things that everyone else does that bothers people.
Look I get that people would want Ned out and I am often seen as some time of Ned guy, I just don’t think there is someone who is going to please everyone and frankly Ned’s track record as the Dodger GM doesn’t really scream replace me as soon as you can.
It also doesn't scream five year extension
but to be fair he got that after two very successful seasons.
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I Wanna Cry
Up here in the Evil Empire, I have been getting a daily dose of Giant hoopla. If I didn’t know for certain, I think Ned still works for the Giants.
For nostalgia reasons
I think USC and UCLA should play a game in the Coliseum like they did back in 1925
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I thought they already played in that shithole every two years
what would be different, what am I missing?
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the sarcasm, also the observation that the west coast has become the holders of our country’s history circa 1900-1950 as the East coast has build over it
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Cubs want to build bunkers under their field

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think there is an ordinance against this
but build a third deck.
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it’s how Berkeley build it’s ginormous library
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hey
she never said she actually went to said library.
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I dunno about the secretary school you went to, but Berkeley didn’t offer typing classes
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
really, you were so confused by that one letter you had to point it out left you were unable to understand what I meant?
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
haha no
you just misspelled it in your other comment too and I was wondering if I missed something.
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true story, I can’t spell dyslexia anyhow
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
interesting
I have that thing where I constantly will swap two words in sentence. Its quite vexing.
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I constantly swap lose and loose, no matter how hard I try not to
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
we talked about this recently, but
I think my favorite is resign and re-sign
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People don't so much swap those
as just don’t even f’ing try.
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you know, every time you post, I read it in the new Batman voice
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’m friends with this clown guy. Growing up I was told he felt in a vat of acid, but was recently told that in fact he’s just some crazy guy
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Tell him I'm sorry about that
but his hood just looked really stupid.
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when when when when did the Joker wear a hood?
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
When he was the red hood
which was when he fell in the vat of acid. Or maybe not, the story keeps changing, but he may have actually had a wife, and may have been forced to go along with the heist only to accidentally fall in the vat of acid much to batmans horror.
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I was just referring to the movies
I only read Buffy/Marvel universe in comics, I find DC too….something
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
not enough wolverine?
you need all your comics to have some logan? :-p
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lords no
I just this Marvel has the right balance of tragic flaw and fun, while DC seems to be mucking around in the tragic flaw so hard the books stop being fun
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Marvel always ruled
because they had the sense of humor.
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That was like
4 years ago, and lasted for a couple of years when they realized they had fucked up their characters and needed to fix them. I don’t really think thats the case anymore. It was also awesome when it lasted.
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You are awesome.
I’m going to do this from now on.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
you
also use “where” instead of “were” a lot. Just an observation.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
A basketball court can fit entirely on a major league infield, including sidelines and benches. There would be a ton of space to add more seats. Nobody would want to sit that far back.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Subject got eaten
I meant to say there could probably be 70,000+ seats sold, if the demand was high enough.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
70,000 seats does not equal 70, 000 parking spots
Dodger Stadium has less then 20,000 parking spots for 50,000 seats do they not?
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Didn't find one but
here is the Astrodome for the Lew Alcindor / Elvin Hayes game:

And the opening tip off:

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and a subject line:)
awesome get, now that was a basketball team
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I don’t get it. Who pays for those seats? That’s like the NBA all star game at Cowboys stadium. Why bother going?
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Bad analogy
this was not an exhibition game. This game matched the undefeated defending champions against the undefeated runner ups. UCLA was riding a 2 1/2 year undefeated streak. It was billed the Game of the Century. From wikipedia:
The Game of the Century in college basketball was a historical NCAA game between the University of Houston Cougars and the UCLA Bruins played on January 20, 1968 at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas. It was the first NCAA regular season game broadcast nationwide in prime time. It established college basketball as a sports commodity on television and paved the way for the modern “March Madness” television coverage.Maybe your analogy should be “who pays a ridiculous premium on bad seats in DS when the World Champion Dodgers are hosting the visiting Yankees in June?”
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If they did that game today
ESPN would start promoting it right now. That was a huge game, probably made me even aware of college basketball for the first time in my life.
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The comparison was who pays for seats at a stadium when the game you are “watching” is hardly visible.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
50,000 people
more of an event then viewing opportunity. To bad for them no Tivo existed so they didn’t get to go home and watch what the giant ants were doing.
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You guys are missing my point.
The reason for people going to that game don’t particularly interest me. I brought up the contemporary example of the all-star game because like the original idea from Silverwidow it would involve people attending who could barely view the game. Your picture shows the same thing.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
but in the Cowboys example, those at the top could at least watch a 2 mile wide screen
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
So they could go to the stadium, pay for seats, and watch the game on a television screen?
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
People do that for movies
its all about size.
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It’s batting practice right now, I’m just lobbing em over the plate
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
They just want to be part of the event. ask the 300,000 people who crammed the coliseum to watch Dodgers Red Sox
that game was awesome. I loved every minute.
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You are also too young to realize how huge
Lew Alcindor was back then. The NCAA changed the rules because of him, banning the dunk for a time.
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I thought they banned it when Wilt went all Kansas on the NCAA
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he forgot how to read and started blaring Seven Nation Army?
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I'm gonna fight em all
a seven nation army couldn’t hold me back
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Wikipedia could be wrong of course
Dunking was banned in the NCAA from 1967 to 1976. Many have attributed this to the dominance of the then-college phenomenon Lew Alcindor (now called Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) upon his entry into the NCAA. Subsequently, the no-dunking rule is sometimes referred to as the “Lew Alcindor rule.”34
My memory says that the rule change that was made for Wilt was widening the key, which used to actually be shaped like a keyhole, thinner below the free throw line.
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The Dodger Stadium image may be hard to top
but MammothDodger may approve. Ski jumping at DS!

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Yes they did
And I was there!
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 17, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops
That was directed at delias man’s Globetrotters post. Missed it by that much.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 17, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
The More I Think About Elbert Simply "Going Home" The More It Makes Me Smile
It makes me think of a story I once heard. Rick Moranis said of a certain fellow who works in TV that got a job as the “man in charge” of The Simpsons. He shows up for his first day of work and in his first meeting with the writers he listens to them throw around ideas and hears what stories they are working on. The guy excuses himself and leaves the room, like he’s going to the washroom or something. He walks out of the building too, he goes to his car, and drives off. And he never returns. He didn’t quit. He never called. He just went away. There’s something so perfect about that.
If that was supposed to be
like Sam Simon, he stayed for 3 seasons, walked away with a package that still pays hims millions a year.
Larry David did once quit SNL and then came back the next Monday as if nothing happened. (George Costanza later did that on an early episode)
I had no idea Larry David was an SNL writer
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You know
that incident might have been on the show “Fridays” but yes, he was a writer on SNL, I believe he had one sketch produced all season.
Is there any precedence of a player getting traded for a PTBNL only for that player to be his own PTBNL?
I think I remember this happening and I wonder how feasible it is to pull off as a standard trade. Almost a loaner system if you have too many OF in your system or whatever.
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Fun as it would be, a PBTNL can’t be in the same league as the guy being traded.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Some claim
that it happened to Harry Chiti in 1962, but b-r.com’s transactions on his page lists it this way:
April 26, 1962: Purchased by the New York Mets from the Cleveland Indians.Tying this to the Dodgers, Chiti’s most similar player at age 27 was Steve Yeager (986 out of 1000).
June 15, 1962: Returned to the Cleveland Indians by the New York Mets following previous purchase.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Player I would enjoy seeing us pick up
Rich Hill
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Because they don’t have a center fielder on their roster. Vernon Wells doesn’t count.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Funny
according to Fangraphs he was worth more then Kemp in 100 less at bats as Kemp did last year but you would never say that about Matt would you?
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=cf&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2010&month=0
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When proponents of UZR claim that less than three years is a small sample size, calculating annual WAR figures using that season’s UZR seems to defeat the purpose.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think of having a fluke UZR like having a high BABIP. You’ll be back to normal going forward, but your team still benefits from you hitting 50 points higher than you should.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
The problem I see is
people expect defense to be a constant, when it isn’t. They assume “good” defensive players will always be good and poor defenders will always be poor. The fact is, you can have a poor defensive season simply from focusing on something else and not getting enough reps in, or playing with a different position coach that positions you where you don’t want to be (too deep, too shallow, shaded the wrong way, etc), or knowing you have two statues to both sides of you so you have to guess which way the ball will be hit because everything in the air is yours to catch.
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after digesting that thought a little, do the creators and proponents of UZR claim that it is an accurate measure of something translatable / transformable to “wins”?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes, since we know how what usually happens if a defender misses that play, and we know how many runs every type of hit is worth on average.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t the time or energy for it, but did Matt Kemp really cost LA 24 runs in CF in 2010? Seems unfathomable.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
UZR works like this: figure out how many runs score on average for a ball hit to a certain place (a double is something like .8 runs), then subtract that from what happens on an out (about -.25 runs). Finally multiply that by the percentage of the time a ball is caught, so missing a routine catch hurts way more than missing an amazing catch.
Botching a routine play and turning it into two bases costs your team over a run at a time. Do that all the freaking time like Kemp did in April, and your UZR goes down fast.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
But location only seems like a pretty crude measure to use. Ideally, velocity off the bat, time in the air, or some other factors should seem to need come into play.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Right now I think they differentiate between fly balls and line drives, and I think they have a middle ground called fliners.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I meant dodgeball, you get bludgeoned with one of those blue balls, ouch!
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
2010 CF listed by baseball-references WAR
for what it is worth:
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/0j7Z3
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
100% agree
I was just trying to make a point with the only stat that would help. Cherry picking by using WAR is the lowest I will go but sometimes I still go there.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Raja Davis was traded to the Blue Jays
small, fast, but right handed
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Gracias
I forgot it from the end of the other thread.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
haha fark.com headline
Vladimir Putin needs help naming his new puppy. Suggestions to the right (unlike in Russia, voting is enabled) (rt.com)
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Has Anybody Read George's Book?
…if not, I don’t suppose anybody in the US would have heard this story from it (which was reported in the Canadian media). While talking to Canada’s prime minister, Stephen Harper, Bush told him about how when he was in Russia with Putin, Putin introduced him to his his dog and, knowing that Bush owned a small dog, said “My dog is bigger, stronger, and faster than your dog.” According to Bush, Harper’s reply to this anecdote was “You’re lucky the only thing he showed you was his dog.”
by CanuckDodger on Nov 17, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Harper thought Putin’s tattoo read “CCCP”, but it really said “Союз Советских Социалистических Республик”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Huh? That’s what CCCP (= USSR, for those who don’t read Russian) always stood for – for over 70 years. I don’t get your point.
You have to know the OK – Oklahoma joke.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Centers on a penile tattoo.
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by David Young on Nov 18, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
indeed.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
What would a basketball game be like
if it was the size of a football field?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Like soccer
and nobody would watch that either :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Eric, working hard to go on my obelisk* today
;-P
*copyright, Bob Timmermann
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Back to soccer talk
Nice story there with Agudelo. This is why I hate seeing guys who suck like Bornstein take away international playing time from younger guys who can actually benefit themselves and our program moving forward.
you’re gonna have to link to whatever story you are referencing, for I am interested in this subject matter, and agree that Bornstein is no international
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
USMNT played a friendly in/vs. South Africa today
and won, even though they were using a lot of newbies. Goal scored by new 17 year old guy who could turn out to be impressive,
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5818243/youth-served-us-victory-south-africa
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I watched the first half, then stepped out for lunch. Is Agudelo the new kid? I haven’t heard of him yet, but it’s great that we’ve got some youth developing. Did the USMNT play super defensive like I’m used to them playing?
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
They played it fairly defensively
and did that well. They were sloppy in the midfield, a lot of errant passes turning it over. But they made stops when they had to and Guzan is solid back there. They also generally had even less of a striker presence than they usually do with so many good players missing. But Agudelo made some magic!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No shit.
Friedel isn’t going anywhere. He is loved at Villa.
He needed to move last year, I thought.
I forgot he was still there.
I know, he needs to be starting somewhere before he's over the hill.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
so much in common between the LA Galaxy and our USMNT. And both entities seem to be hated by fans of the “beautiful game” persuasion
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
It was a fun goal, a fun moment
I do think the team has many good young players who will be getting more time. Bornstein’s days are probably numbered though they are still short depth in the defensive backfield… He does play in the EPL, isn’t terrible, but isnt terribly good or reliable either. Exciting to see young players showing some magic.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Now Josh Willingham might be available
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/josh-willingham-drawing-interest-extension-unlikely.html
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
link to actual source
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/11/josh_willingham_unlikely_to_re.html
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
my first reaction is a big PASS. But we have so many offensive holes I’m sure it’d be fine.
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Is his defense that bad?
or you want more pop from your left fielder?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Our left fielder is Jay Gibbons. We can’t really be picky.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I'm 100% on board with Willingham in LF for next season
I’d trade Loney for him and sign one of the available 1B.
Willingham is about a bazillion times better than what we currently got, also he walks a lot, which means NC probably has no desire to get him.
Reasons why Josh Willingham will not be a Dodger in 2011
1) He’s a free agent after next season.
2) Cost in prospects.
3) Arbitration raise.
4) Defensive concerns
Now that the standard answers are out of the way, here’s the real answer:
The vast majority of his home runs have come on either the first or second pitch. If he’s a dead-red type hitter where he goes up there swinging, his style will not jive with the typical Dodger patience approach. We try to work starting pitchers and get late into games. He’ll either try to do it our way and struggle, or he’ll do it his way and there will be a struggle.
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=willijo03&year=Career&t=b
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the 370 on base percentage
says his patience is just fine.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
not all of OBP is derived from high pitch counts and walks. He does walk about every other game, but he also hit 5th most of the time, so I’m questioning how often he got pitched around. Though, I only watched about a dozen games that he’s played in.
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Without looking it up the man
has had an excellent walk rate throughout his professional career
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
As does the BB% of 14.9%. That would have been the best on the Dodgers (minimum 200 PA.) As a team, the Dodgers BB% was 8.7%.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well
1) Our internal options all blow.
2) Most of our prospects aren’t very good
I don’t think he’d cost much in trade. Sure he’s not the sexiest option, but he should be cheap enough and it’s miles better than what we have. I don’t see a huge bidding war erupting for him.
he’s now his team’s #4 hitter and you don’t think they’d want much?
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I tend to still believe in a world where the Jeff Willingham's are still undervalued
he did only have 370 at bats didn’t he?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Jeff Willingham is undervalued as fuck! I bet we could sign him for the minimum.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
They aren't going anywhere this year
especially with Strasburg out. He’ll be gone after a year via FA, so they just need to beat the two picks.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Right after I said "two picks"
I was skeptical, but per Eddie Bajek at MLB Trade Rumors, if Willingham were a FA this year, he’d be Type A.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
That’s like saying he’s the ace of the Pirates and you don’t think he’d cost much. He’s a good not great left fielder who isn’t a defensive wiz and his offensive skillset isn;t super sexy. I’d definitely kick the tires there, I don’t think he’d be as expensive as you think he is. He’d certainly come a lot cheaper than Dan Uggla did…
Ethier is sadly our best hitter, and Willingham would probably be the second best hitter on our team if we got him.
turn that frown upside down
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Would you take not that much for Ethier? Yes I know it’s not exactly the same situation.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Ethier has hit 30 HR’s and has that whole proven clutch hitter thing going for him after last year. Ethier is the exact kind of player that’s good to have around while we control his below market years but should be left to test the market once he’s a FA. Yeah if the Nats want Sands and Gordon for him I’d say get bent, but if Uggla can get traded that cheaply to a division rival, I’m thinking a willingness to pick up the tab for his entire contract is really the driving force behind a deal for them.
How do you know what their driving force is? The Nationals and Marlins are two different franchises with two different MOs. The Marlins just dealt a top 5 offensive talent at his position for scraps, while the Nationals two years ago were a finalist for Mark Teixeira.
The Nationals have money to burn, they just can’t get people to take it. They’re trying to win and you’d have to make it worth their while. I just don’t see the Dodgers making it worth it for the Nationals.
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We’ll just have to agree to disagree because I don’t see WIllingham bringing back top prospects when he gets dealt.
He’s probably worth a B prospect and change. To us a B prospect is a huge prospect.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
(Not So) Bold prediction
Blue Jays get him with the intention of stockpiling first round picks before the compensation system changes with the next CBA.
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What being the ace of the Pirates means
is that he’s worth more to them on their team than he would be on another team.
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Not if he is going to walk after next year
and they know they won’t compete.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
They haven’t even assembled their team yet. They think they’re going to bid on big free agents and make a splash. We have no idea what the league is going to look like.
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Also look at what teams get for their players that only have one more year left recently. Most teams are not getting super great packages, they are getting crap. I’m betting Willingham gets traded for a lot cheaper than most of you expect (like Uggla did)
using the Dan Uggla trade as evidence is the same thing as thinking that everytime we make a trade it has to be a Milton for Ethier deal. It was a terrible deal and should not be used as evidence for anything. First step to creating a valid trend line? Remove the outliers.
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Nickname allegiance?
To Fred Williamson
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
because running into the meat of the defense keeps yielding nothing
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m a Willingham fan.
I’d love for him to be in LF for us. Over the current candidates, of course.
Not more than Ethier in LF and Werth in RF though
You have to trade to get him though, so is he worth that much more then some of the other LF options? I don’t know.
I would be fine with simply
trading Loney for Willingham and making him our 1st baseman.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That almost makes sense
maybe throw in another prospect to get it done?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think he looks like a giant. Those are coaches at the end and he towers over them.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
That makes the above basketball convo
make more sense
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
matthewmafa, did you post this? (RE: Best pitches)
4 seam=Jonathan Broxton
2 seam=Mariano Rivera
power curve=Justin Verlander
12-6 curve=Barry Zito
slider=Randy Johnson
changeup=Johan Santana
circle-change=Tim Lincecum?
palmball=HUH?
slurve=Dontrel Willis
cutter=Chad Billingsley
sinker=Derek Lowe
splitter=TIm Lincecum
knuckleball=TIm Wakefield
eephus=Nobody throws this
shuuto=Hiroki Kuroda
knuckle curve=Mike Musina
screwball=Nobody throws this anymore
forkball=Yovani Gillardo
gyro=Daisuke Matsuzaka
Padilla is somewhere in Nicaragua
eephus=Nobody throws this
laughing at this.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Where is that from?
I don’t mean to be an asshole here, but what is the fixation of grabbing shit from other places without any context or link? It’s really not that hard.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
I mean, really, all I ask is if you quote something, please link to it.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
You raised Eric's ire and once it is raised
he has to hope it will go down in the next 24 hours or he will need to seek a doctor.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Don’t worry. It’s a pet peeve of mine as well.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
delias man
denies the gyro’s existence.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Watching Dice-K
I believe gyro is Japanese for “ball 4”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
and should be
gyro=Daisuke MatsuzakaNobody throws this
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I love the idea that Mariano Rivera doesn’t have the best cutter, and the idea that a two-seamer and a sinker are two different pitches.
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the idea that a two-seamer and a sinker are two different pitches.
Aren’t they? I mean, I suck at pitching, but aren’t they tangibly different?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
They absolutely are. Different movement. 2 seemer tails in like a screw ball (think Kevin Brown or CB) while a sinker, sinks.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
It’s still the same pitch. You throw it the same. Except if it moves a lot we call it a sinker and if it moves a little we call it a two-seamer. All two-seamers are designed to be sinkers, but not everyone (myself included) can get it to work as well as intended.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
It really depends on grip. For my two seamer, I would hold the ball inside of the two seams with differing pressure points to get more run. If I wanted to make the ball sink more, I would extend my grip to the outside of the seams, more like a forkball type grip. Some people just grip the ball in the same spot as others but it moves differently. Same general area on the baseball, but it all depends on the person.
by UCLADodger32 on Nov 17, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think we have
59 comments in this FanPost:
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/12/1810929/tbla-karaoke-night-thanksgiving-weekend
but I think I count like only six or seven people going so far? People waiting to see if they get better offers?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Assuming my in-laws aren’t going to be in town (and it looks like they wont) then I’m going.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Karaoke
and me cannot exist in the same dimension.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I was looking forward
to you singing some X, or maybe some Black Flag.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Close
I was thinking Beastie Boys “Girls”
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If I was to sing
I’d prolly pick something by Joe Strummer
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
aww, I was looking forward to seeing you again : (
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
by mleadman on Nov 17, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I will say
that the next event should be chosen from a selection of 3 or 4 places, and put to a vote.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
this event is fairly informal, only by the grace of mods did I get to associate it with TBLA
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
fair enough
and honestly my suggestion probably would only really work if it where a meetup to actually watch a game.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I thought you were going to organize the softball game
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm holding out for a 2nd TBLA night option
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Lol
I’m actually most likely in, I don’t see why I wouldn’t…unless I literally cannot go because it’s a bar. You people WOULD do that just to keep me out, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I pass by that place
on my way home from work. I’ll try to scope it out for you to see if there is a restriction or not.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would definitely appreciate it
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
lmao
Done and done ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
not sure what their policy is
but there is def lots out outside space and id be willing to grab a burrito with you (and anyone else) before or afterwards at Cinco De Mayo down the way.
Food elsewhere?
Does the chow at Gabe’s suck?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Is Cinco De Mayo that place I see at Sepulveda and Washington Pl.?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sounds good
We can talk about good movies :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I have family/friend obligations that day, so no go for me. I’ll be down for something happening between Christmas and New Year’s though (did someone say bowling?)?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Weird
I don’t know why, but I had it stuck in my head that she was coming to SF, not to LA. Now that I realize I’m dumb and it’s local…mayhaps.
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
she?
you mean me?
Nah, dawg, born in raised in the Valley, Sherman Oaks represent etc etc.
I’m not sure I’ll have access to a car so this could get interesting. If people would rather get food or something, I’m down for that, too.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
hahah
this makes me think you are gay but trying not to appear to be.
all are welcome of course, WHA DUH
It makes me gay to not want to go hang out with dudes only for karaoke?
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
I'll wear a v-neck shirt
and a pushup bra to detract from the sausage fest, how about that?
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
I suppose I should go look up the definition of gay again.
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
hahah
it was meant to be a joke… but the idea of not doing something in fear of appearing gay because one is actually gay but does not want others to know. haha so sorry
I think G. Scott was just being difficult.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Love Birds Cafe
To avoid the lunch rush next time, order online before you leave.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions
Ooo my iphone arrived
now my cell phone and ipod touch have been combined into one gadget, which shall make me cooler or more of a bitch
I got it refurbished so coolness only cost me a yuppie food stamp
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Even better. I need to get me a new phone, might go the refurbish route.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Why
I ask you WHY did you buy it refurbished? I do this shit for a living, and I can tell you refurbished Iphones are pieces of junk! Hopefully you got one of the good ones, but oh man, I wouldn’t ever buy something any of my coworkers “fixed”.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
seen any good inappropriate pictures lately? :-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
iDon'tCare
Really, though. That’s cool. Congrats.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Shoulda gotten a Windows 7 phone
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think it is safe to say that most of the top reviewed phones can be argued as the best choice.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I usually recommend iPhones for normal people and Droids for tech nerds. I would wait on Windows phone to see how app support ends up going.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t this just the way though. If you just want it to work, go mac. If you want to know why it’s working, go linux. If you don’t want to know why it’s not working, go windows
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s how I chose my phone.
I have Verizon. Verizon has Droid. That was that.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
i have that phone
I don’t like it anymore
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
don't all phones suck?
they are amazing for like a month and then start sucking, breaking, doing shitty things, etc.
i have a razr and its the worst thing ever but i can’t convince myself to spend extra money every month and upgrade to a new, crappy phone just to read Doug Benson tweets at the grocery store
I've had mine for almost twoyears
Just waiting for the iphone… I have verizon BTW
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
The razr was never good
Most of the high end smartphones are actually solid enough to last more then 2 months before you hate them.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Go with an HTC phone then
but then you have to pay for a data plan
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
i guess i just can't define what i would use a smart phone for
except i know i dont want to use it to watch movies or tv shows hahaha maybe baseball? but i cant afford it
I have a dumb phone that still can get online. I use it for google maps, email, and yelp.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
If you mean does it have the ability to put
videos or music on your phone, and then play them, then probably yes, and will be the case with most phones.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
i had a krazr
and loved it

The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
I had a razor
and it was the shittiest slowest phone I have ever owned. Maybe the krazr was better.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
If you just want to work
and don’t mind paying a 300 dollar premium, go mac. Otherwise, Windows 7 is just fine, even if it had to rip off OS X in some ways to get it done.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Well since I’m a Windows sysadmin I can’t slam it too much, but yeah, that about covers it.
by regfairfield on Nov 17, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Linux is made to be built
not used
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I was surprised to find on my new job
that my major production system is running SUSE Linux.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I hate Apple
iPhone is the better phone for now, but I hate apple too much.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
If it weren’t for apple, I’d never get anything done
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
if it weren't for my horse
i wouldn’t have spent that year in college
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
the question haunts me Josie
haunts….me………
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
If it weren't for Matt Kemp
The Dodgers would have won the World Series
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Hmmm….tough call. My least favorite thing to see is two people in line somewhere both on their iPhone…or the friend that comes over and can’t stay off his iPhone.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 17, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
since i don't want to scroll up
If the price is right, i’m down with Josh Willingham being our LF for 2011. Or Maggs.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions
I lliked this tweet on A's vs Adrian Beltre
@kenarneson I’d prefer A’s take 5 yrs/$64M and buy the top 64 or so Venezuelan/Dominican prospects. Gotta be at least 1 Beltre in there.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
oh Tracy McGrady
can you play a season without getting hurt?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 5:18 PM PST reply actions
Hey a stupid article about baseball actually helps us for once:
Phillies should trade Utley for Kemp. And pay most of Utley’s salary.
i saw that but didn't want to link it
stupid motherfucking Plachke says some stupid bullshit like “Everyone in town wants Kemp traded”. Hey Bill, the reflection you talk to in the mirror doesn’t count as speaking for LA, you douche nozzle
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
because you just can’t pay for imagery like “Douche nozzle”
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
:D
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
John Heyman reports:
• Frank McCourt, who’s still the Dodgers’ owner, was seen in the lobby, huddling with GM Ned Colletti.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jon_heyman/11/17/winter.meetings/1.html#ixzz15b2c4HI1
what does it mean?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!?!?!?!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Wrong. This well punctuated tweet also breaks the news that McCourt is still the team owner. Well done, Heyman.
by LA Taco on Nov 17, 2010 6:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Team Owner And GM Were Seen...TALKING?
Boy, I bet stuff like that never happens in pro sports. Thanks for the crack reporting, Heyman.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 17, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
If Frank has Ned’s junk in a jar, and Jamie has Frank’s junk in a jar, does the transitive property of junk possession mean Jamie gets Ned in the divorce?
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
BREAKING NEWS
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
Scott Boras has left Orlando, according to one of his staffers.
We didn't sign Beltre!one
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Scott Boras
I’ll start entertaining serious offers for Beltre soon.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
If I have a picture saved on my desktop, what is the best way to post it here?
I uploaded it to flickr but I’m having trouble putting it here.
The Standard Work Week: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F
You people suck
All I want to do is come home and shoot the shit with you assholes, but no, no one is active right now. I had a flat tire and went to change it, and the spare was flat too, joy. I get paid in two days, and had a grand total of 78 dollars in my checking account, but had to pay 107 dollars for a new shitty tire. Hello credit card.
Fun times.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
my brother had less last week
and he has a wife and two kids. so :P
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
does Phil
have a third identity? Is he trolling us right now?
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
I do appreciate the effort
you’re just wrong about no one else bashing on me. I think there are backups to the backups of the backups for people who bash on me :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’m around. Watching the Clipper game.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
How is Griffin doing
Haven’t heard much since their first win.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Big game tonight
3rd quarter just ended. Griffin has 22 points and 15 boards.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Very nice
I’m not huge on basketball knowledge, but I would really like to see the Clippers succeed, mainly because I think it would be amazing to see the Lakers and Clippers play a series in the palyoffs.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yup. He can score at will. Not a lot of defense being played in general. For Minnesota, Love and Beasley are scoring for LAC, Griffin and Gordon.
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
I’m around a bit.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Its all about perspective

"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Lakers
with the Taco score. nice job
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 6:53 PM PST reply actions
Sasha Vujacic is God awful though
5 minutes: -12 plus/minus
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
No
Just loving posting his numbers because it’s hilarious. Last time I posted his plus/minus numbers I think it was -9 in 3 minutes.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly from last year's finals
he should only be inserted when the opposing team is in a must-foul situation.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
OT question
Would you rather go forward to any point in time or backward to any point? Also, you couldn’t profit from it. You’d be able to go back to present time after say a week.
I think I’d want to go maybe 100 years in the future and see what kind of technology there is at that point.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
because i'm drunk
i’ll say back
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Drunk on a Wednesday night?
I like your style, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Im buyin beer on the way home.
Havent had a drink in a week or so.
Usually like to enjoy that tobacco while drinking.
Test is tonight
Drown out the urge for the tobacco with more drinking =).
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
good luck Keith
stay strong! Semper Fi!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good luck Keith
I’m rooting for you
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Also
“Fry, stop interfering, I don’t want to have to memorize a bunch of new kings when we get back.”
“I couldn’t help it. I could feel myself fading away, like Greg Kinear!”
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to go back in time
to before I read your comment.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rick Bayless comes off as a great guy to hang around and so positive and optimistic about everything. His brother, Skip Bayless is a fucking idiot.
http://kotaku.com/5692826/clueless-sports-writer-is-very-serious-about-this-black-ops-ad-controversy
Oh my god
Did you read the part below about the comedian (i think that’s what they said) who was murdered and people took fucking pictures? Jesus Christ what is wrong with people?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This is not a new social phenomenon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Eric, Clips looking to break Lawlers Law (Minnesota got to 100 first)
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
At some point soon
I need to go back through all the NBA game logs before it becomes too tedious, so I can keep track as the season goes on.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
That would be twice in under a week for them!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully it goes our way this time, but I’m worried I just jinxed the fuck out of it
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Beasley left too much time on the clock.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
BTW
There’s no getting around it, Beasley has girl hair right now. Ridiculous.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Beasley ownage
Makes a jumper to go up 2 with 2 seconds left
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Beasley
Bill Simmons in today’s podcast was rightfully killing Bryan Colangelo in Toronto for refusing to take Beasley in the Bosh deal, then giving Amir Johnson $34 million.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
remember
when Amir Johnson was about to be drafted, Sonny Vaccaro was on that awful Hartman-Werndell show on 690 and said Amir would be a “definite All-Star”. Whoops, good thing he doesn’t make money being a personnel scout.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
It’s not like Beasley is coming out of nowhere either. He might have had his issues, but he always could play. 16 PER last year, 17 the year before
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Not a fan
of Gordon inbounding the ball there. Needed a second or two more to allow time for the passback.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Word. Wasted a monster night from Gordon. 30 points and 7 assists. Griffin 26 points, 17 boards
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
I have a feeling
the Clippers will end up hitting their stride in about 2 months, and they will be good for a long stretch, but it well end up being too little, too late, this season at least.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm channeling silverwidow here
But what if basketball allowed the inbound passer to shoot at the basket?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
It is sad. He’ll go down as a bust, but the dude could play (when healthy)
by Michael White on Nov 17, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that really sucks.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Yep, sounds about right.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/careless-blazers-goofing-around-with-basketball-sh,18448/
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Just noticed
This is surgery on his other knee. Fuck.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Are you sure you haven’t gotten into the beer already?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
different man, but same joke applies.
Warren Sapp said that Derrick Brooks joint was so big, it needed a knee in it.
That is funny
z
Frank and Jamie McCourt are expected to return to Los Angeles Superior Court on Friday, when the mediator working on their divorce case is scheduled to propose what he believes would be a fair settlement.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-mccourt-divorce-20101118,0,473698.story
I don’t think this is an actual settlement, more like the mediator saying this is what you should do.
I know Bleacher Report is seen as trash here
but this article is about the draft class of 2011. would be nice if someone like Rendon fell to us.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions
i know......
Daniel Norris seems like a Logan White pick. High school pitcher with a good frame and good fast ball, and potential good secondary pitches.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
seems like a lot of good infielders and catchers in this years draft..
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Lets take an infielder (3b? 1b?) someone with some damn power!
I love our SP in the majors and minors, but hot damn, let’s try to get more hitting!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
They have some!!!
let’s draft those guys!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I personally want Matt Barnes. (Not that Matt Barnes).
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
I want to see a Lakers lineup of
Brown
Blake
Bryant
Barnes
Bynum
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
If Rendon fell to us
That guy is a Dodger fan
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Dogs don't understand basic concepts like moving
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/11/dogs-dont-understand-basic-concepts.html
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Get this
humans show more emotion with the right side of their face than the left side. The dog is the only animal that when they look at you, they are looking at the right side of your face.
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
SI_JonHeyman
AL exec on justin upton: "what (the diamondbacks) want is ridiculous.’’ my take: cant blame ’em. 21 yr old future superstar
But the last time Towers was a GM, Upton was 21. Maybe he’s in a time warp :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
it's just a jump to the left
and then a step to the right. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 17, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I just got a text from CBS Sports
so I don’t have a link. (Don’t shoot to kill E).
It said that Ron Artest is going to try to play in the NFL after his current contract expires.
Amateur Signing Bonuses Series
NL West
Diamondbacks ($29.1MM)
Dodgers ($13.7375MM)
Giants ($16.175MM)
Padres ($15.7MM)
Rockies ($14.4MM)
The Rays is at the highest at $30.75 million.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/amateur-signing-bonuses-series.html
I don't know why I find this interesting
But there is an Absolut Vodka ad at the very bottom of this page.
I don't see it
that would be an odd place to put an add, though.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
On the flip side
if you could somehow rig the programming to have your add popup everytime someone hit ‘z’, you’d be equal parts annoying and brilliant.
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
FML
Apparently my roommate’s ankle is now susceptible to infection due to her surgery. What this means, however, is that the litter box now goes in my room. Which is noticeably smaller than my roommate’s. Who has her desk in the living room and clothes in the hall closet.
In the future, I need to remember that just because I try to be nice doesn’t mean I should be paying half of the rent when there is no reason to. I’m not sure why this frustrates me. Thanksgiving can’t come fast enough.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Weak!
There is no way you should be paying half the rent.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
I am contemplating bringing it up tomorrow
but her mom is here, and I’m not entirely sure how it’ll go down.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Consider yourself Octavio Dotel and them Lambo and JMac. Your performance will be terrible and everyone will be rooting for them. You’ll then be forced to move to Colorado.
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
good point
My rent is still insanely cheap. I guess it’s just the principle of the thing.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Someone named Josh needs to reply to this and be offended by your use of the term “joshin’” =).
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Wait until right at the end of November. Give her ankle some time to heal, and then bring it up before paying December rent. Or at least float the idea then, and continue it a few more times with the idea to change it by January.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Tough Timing
Especially if you agreed to half earlier. I say wait until after the visit and just bring up the space in the common area.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 18, 2010 7:11 AM PST up reply actions
I love SVU
haven’t seen the new episodes except for one, the Jennifer Love Hewitt one, which was good. How are the rest?
by Julio Nievas on Nov 17, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I seen a couple. They just get more nonsensical with each ep. They don’t even bother to do rape anymore half the time now.
I stopped at the end of season 6
I know they get better, but man the show took a dive in quality for the 2nd half of that season.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
The baby is blocking the only reason to read comics.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Just because it’s the “biggest” reason doesn’t mean it’s the only reason!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
or like
Supporters of Late Night, Sandman, and the Dutch Rudder
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
On Front: True Blue LA [next line] www.truebluela.com
On Back: Dotel 26
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
TBLA
and then a picture of Ned Coletti
“This is why we can’t have nice things”
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
or a picture of Frank McCourt
in the style of the Obama Hope posters with the caption
“NOPE”
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
by Maddz on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And you thought
messing with the Dodger logo was trouble
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
5 text messages woke me up from semi sick sleep, so I am harnessing my loopiness for zany tshirt ideas!
I’m actually partial to the “this is why we can’t have nice things” bit; maybe that could go with the Dotel jersey idea?
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
I'm seriously all for your This is why we can't have nice things
one
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Stop complaining about young people complaining!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
If this is in any way directed at me, perhaps a bit of clarification would be helpful: I have no idea how to move forward in this situation and was actually looking for advice, from people who have lived with others before, which was provided (thanks guys).
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
I could see how it could appear as complaining. I don’t want to be “that guy”. :)
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Do arrangements
between two roommates that are not 50/50 work out, assuming they both have equal access to the common areas. I am just asking. What would be fair (55-45)?
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
It seems
that those arrangements are more successful when dealt with prior to move-in.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
I asked about this, actually, and she said the rooms were exactly the same size. I didn’t really notice until a month after I moved in (I wasn’t spending a lot of time in her room).
It seems petty, doesn’t it? Ugh.
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Not petty
You have a good case IMO since you addressed it beforehand. You were kind of going in blind, so it’s a tough situation.
55/45 seems like a fair split, or something similar rounded off to the nearest $25 or something. Or maybe you could work something out where she pays all of an electric bill every month or every other month.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I don't envy the guy
who has to tweet the SBN Los Angeles re the Kings, Clippers and USC basketball results tonight
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Julio is doing the recaps tonight, and doing a bang-up job!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
If you do it based on square footage
it helps avoid some squabling, but here having a desk in the living room complicates that.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
when i lived in 6 people once (er, twice actually)
each room had a different price based on the size, not a huge difference but enough that the person in the tiny room was def paying less than the converted family room dweller
I've never lived inside someone before
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Agreed. We did this with a four bedroom using Sq footage to adjust.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 18, 2010 7:17 AM PST up reply actions
Don't worry, I'm sure more of it was directed at me
I just have a personality where people hate to hear my bitching. I’m sure of it, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I know old people are supposed to complain
But I think it’s shifted to young people now. Our lives are hard. You don’t know what it’s like being young :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The woman in the Heineken commercial
The one where the dude comes up to her table with two Heinekens, one for her, but then ups the ante by asking her mother to dance instead of her…
Yeah, that woman is beautiful.
the mother is beautiful?
are you nate purcell???
by mintxcore on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant to cancel that
Are we sure the vision of the guy is not impaired by drinking lousy imported beer?
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
I like Schock Top better
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Neither are imports.
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by David Young on Nov 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
For the record
I enjoy Heineken.
Then again, I also drink Coors Light.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
there's a time for beer snobbery
and there is also a time for alcoholic water. I feel you.
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For the record
I am enjoying a Blue Moon right now.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
I was being serious
sometimes you want to get down on a nice Dog fish Head brew and other times call for a Rolling Rock. I’m not judging.
I do hate PBR, though.
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But please tell
me you have had some good barbeque down there
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
I finally did have some
and it was awesome.
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Agreed
Coors Light is my volume brew of choice.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
i dont know enough about beer
to make a snobby comment. i had a “Leffe” once. It was actually the only beer I’ve ever ordered someplace. it was good.
luckily for you, one of my best friends from high school — the one I took to TBLA night, actually — is a HUGE beer snob. If you can nail down whether or not you like hoppy beer, then you’ll be good. I recommend Dogfish Head and Stone Brewery to stat…I think that Lost Abbey is good, too. They’re high gravity, meaning more alcohol by volume, but also more tasty.
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Stone is one of my favorites right now.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 18, 2010 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
The snobby comment
is that you have only ordered beer someplace once. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
and she doesnt drink
she just likes expensive food hahaha
my one beer, leffe was at Granville Moores in DC. We had mussels and frites. yum.
Belgians make good beer! Mussels and frites are awesome, as well.
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it was a pretty epic meal
it was 100+ degrees that day and they say us in the hottest part of the restaurant hahah. it was a true adventure getting there but we made it.
Belgians make the best beer
For anyone that lives close to Claremont, which I believe here is zero (even I don’t live by there), the Back Abbey is AWESOME.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 18, 2010 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
is that anything like
Genny Light?
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and it tastes like heaven when it’s served at the proper temperature
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
mock if you must, I’d take one of those over a bud, miller, or coors
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
I was serious
Beer should be served ice cold.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Lager should, since it’s cold fermented. Ales can be served at like seven degrees Celsius
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
never tried it
but that’s not saying much…it can’t be worse, for sure
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This.
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by David Young on Nov 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I predict the guy on Man vs, Food
will fail his challenge of eating a 1.5 lb sandwich and a 6 lb milkshake
I feel like he’s done that before.
What kind of sandwich?
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Holy shit
I just saw the milkshake.
I would predict that nobody could finish even the milkshake. The Brad Penny Corollary seems to apply here.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Each shake
1/2 gallon of milk, 1/2 gallon ice cream
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Very cool - in a respectful way
KenLevine
Friends of Dave Niehaus gathered tonight to pay tribute and tell stories. Ken Griffey Jr. was there in Dave’s trademark white shoes.
Speaking of food
if I go to Sonic (still haven’t been to one, I know, I’m sorry), what should I get? Or, perhaps even better: what should I avoid?
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Keep the expectations low
I just like that you can get jalapeños on burgers there.
Whatever those flavored drinks they have there, those are pretty good. I think I have been to a Sonic single-digit times in my life.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
really
because people are ALL ABOUT IT here. That, and a waffle house. I was only waffle house drunk once, and I ended up going to Qdoba instead.
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Eric and I
ate at the Waffle House in Phoenix. I am pretty sure, I was the only one who had a waffle.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure I did, ttoo, but I can’t remember.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe we should have a TBLA brunch
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That would be cool
We could sell wrinkled shirts: “TBLA: The Morning After” and have everyone show up to brunch with messed up hair :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
One thing I will say if I am not
telling things out of school, Mr. Stephen enjoys coffee and orange juice with his breakfast
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Almost only on the road. I hardly ever eat breakfast at home, and rarely drink coffee.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Well to be fair
I have only seen him do that in preparation for a day covering a game.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
My lack of coffee drinking at home has more to do with not feeling like making a pot of coffee for myself. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Oh hell yes.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I would go to a waffle house over Sonic, but if you just feel like driving through (I forget, do you have a car there?), Sonic would be the way to go.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
I do not have a car
which is the main reason I have not been to either place.
Breakfast, however, is my favorite meal. So I feel like it’d be slightly better.
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Poor Maddz
she’s hungry, has no car and now her cat can mistake her shoes for a litter box in her room
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
He's done it before
I will not put it past him.
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Good thing you have
faith (or at least learning why others do)
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
haha, I know, right?
I’m actually strongly considering moving into pure history or something. I don’t know. PHD programs overwhelm me.
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yes
he was with some other friends. it was when one opened in boston. he, like most of us, have seen the commericials a million times and was super curious. he said it was one of the biggest mistakes of his life
whenever I think of Boston
I think of Dunks.
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i had no idea
dunkin donuts was another but a sketchy place that homeless crack addicts hang out. but new englander loves them
what I don't get
is that they order iced coffees year round. I’m not kidding — they get iced coffee in the winter and put it in a thermal cup.
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not the drink
like, the plastic cup that contains the iced coffee? the see-through one? They put THAT cup into the thermal cup.
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one of my favorite "its shit ass cold in boston" stories
i was working at a Borders and I had to be there at 7am one morning. it was in the winter. I had to walk by a movie theatre ot get there and on the ground was a popsicle. now, this is at 6:45am. that popsicle HAD to have been there for at LEAST a few hours. but it was just… unmelted. just sitting there. amazing.
this will be hard to believe but
it was colder in Rochester. I enjoyed going to places like NYC or Boston because it meant the lowest it would get was the upper teens. :(
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not true
there were many a days with it 0 and even way below that. Plus wind chill. i lived int eh windiest part of boston
child please
we have 20 below wind chills in winter here, it’s colder than Dick Cheney’s heart
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by Pure Azure on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I was amazed
at how many Sonic commercials we got in SoCal for a few years before they were even around. Not just national commercials, either. They definitely built up the anticipation.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
In the realm of fast food, it is fairly normal, though. And at least has some different options.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I looked it up
because the people in N’ville thought I was insane for not being to either Sonic or WH…they are like 35+ miles away from Sherman Oaks.
I am not driving forever on the 5 or the 101 through downtown to get to either one of those, sorry.
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Insert High Desert joke here
But there are two Sonics within like 10 miles of each other up here.
(Dalle Ellis and Detlef Schrempf)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
What’s it like living in the High Desert?
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It seems like it would be pretty.
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At least at night.
When looking at the stars.
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It's pretty cool
The sky is clear as hell, and I actually like that it gets relatively cold here in the winter. This season has been warmer than usual, but last year it snowed briefly for a couple of days. Four or five years ago, when I was up here for Thanksgiving weekend, it snowed hard and stayed on the ground. That was awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
Do coyotes
knock on your door, offering to be your spiritual guide
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
why, why must you sully the noble coyote?
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
the English language did it for me. I like the animals, though they scare old people in my folks’ retirement commune. Maybe that’s why I like them.
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wasn’t it the Spanish language?
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by David Young on Nov 18, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
I was thinking English usage of a Spanish word, but point taken
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Awesome
That seems expensive and unwieldy. I wish I was there just to see that logistical clusterfuck!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Depending on how hungry you are
Chili cheese tots should be considered.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 17, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#dbacks getting interest in justin upton from 15 teams. AL more likely. #redsox logical fit, starting with ellsbury, bard
Ellsbury and Bard for Upton would be very Kevin Towers of Kevin Towers.
Pukatronic! /Amy Wong
I’d be shaking with rage if a trade staring those 2 from Boston went down for Upton.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Wow
it can really throw you through a loop when someone makes a comment about the type of person you are…And it just never concerned you until they said it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Girl I like implied that the reason we aren’t dating is because she wants someone who is motivated for their future and has goals set for themselves….and it just threw me on my ass because I know that’s not me at all.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You mean you don’t have goals for your future or you feel like she misread you?
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I’m not all that sure she read me wrong. I mean next semester I am going back to school and I do want to get my BA, though I don’t know for what yet. Just basically being told this could be a reason we are not dating yet is just kind of an eye opener of sorts.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
At 20 and almost 21 years old I guess I didn’t think that would be a parameter for dating. I mean obviously later on in life, but not now. And it’s really just got me thinking.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
thinking you should make a five year plan? Dignan had a five year plan. Got him in jail
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Is she in college
does she have a plan, post-graduate plans, aspirations to live somewhere else?
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Wants to be a sheriff, is taking classes in criminal justice courses, wants to move to SD eventually (I think she would right now if she had the money). I mean I know she is very motivated and everything, but at this age, I really didn’t even think it would be a factor for dating someone. I mean I can see where it would make sense for some people, but isn’t this the age to have fun and whatnot? That’s what everyone tells me anyway.
There really hasn’t ever been anything that has made me think about my future more than this comment, and I can’t even figure out why. I’m not in love with this girl, and I’m not even sure it has anything to do with the girl. I feel so weird right now.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Just guessing
Probably hearing from parents, some of us on this boards and maybe some friends that you should be in school (now I know you said you are going back in January ?) But when she mentions the motivated, future thing to you , it just was as if that confirmed what everyone else was saying.
Often it is not when those you know say something to you that bothers you, it is those you don’t think whose opinion would matter as much as to you that really sticks with you.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 17, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I will bet her $1,000,000
That she does not become a sheriff. .0007643% of people actually end up doing what they want.
I will bet her $1,000,000
That she does not become a sheriff. .0007643% of people actually end up doing what they want.
That old dude in Big Daddy did too
he ended up working at Hooters
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
In my mind
most people who leave community college at some point don’t go back, but I have no way of knowing if thats true or not.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
nor am I saying thats what will happen to you
but I bet thats where she is coming from.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
i think that is true
in general. or they go back and just take like… ceramics and sign up for a science class and drop it
it's like you're playing in
AA with no interest in moving up. It’s ok for your younger years but once you start reaching a certain age, it starts to get sad.
I don't understand
why it takes the iPhone so long to activate. I just want to have my phone. Why is it still an expensive paperweight? With apps. But not yet a phone. Activate will you, activate!
3G, 3GS, or 4G?
3G take FOREVER to turn on after being turned off, take sometimes 5 minutes to turn back on after being hard reset (holding the power button at the top and the home button at the bottom of the face), and if you delete all the content and restore a 3G, oh man, could take 20 minutes.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Mine was activated almost right away, but I got mine at an ATT store.
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I’m now wondering if Josie should/needs to take it to a store…
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it's entirely possible
I plugged into iTunes, followed the instructions, but now it just says “Waiting for activation, This may take some time”
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
When it says that usually it's just trying to read the sim card
That really shouldn’t take that long. At this point I don’t even think you should have to have it plugged in anymore. One of the biggest problems I get at work everyday is the board for the phone just won’t read the sim card.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So I should disconnect it from my computer and let it do its thing?
by Josie Becker on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
It won't hurt it leaving it connected
Just to be safe you should leave it connected. The activation just may take longer for a brand new sim card than the older ones we get.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Good winter leagues
Ronald Bellisario and Scott Elbert.
Dee Gordon (though he is only 6 for 12 in SB)
Sands, Robinson and De Jesus had moments in AFL, Sands had the best finish.
Why is a cricket climing my wall?
Where the hell does it think its going?
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