Dodgers Add Two To 40-Man Roster
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 9:10 PM PST
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PrintThe Dodgers have purchased the contracts of catcher Hector Gimenez and pitcher Luis Vazquez, adding both to the 40-man roster in preparation for next month's Rule 5 draft, per Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. Rosters must be set by tonight at 9 p.m. PST, and those on a 40-man roster by this date are ineligible to be drafted, or Monked, as it were.
Gimenez is a 28-year old catcher who the Dodgers signed to a minor-league contract last week. He played two games for the 2006 Astros, going hitless in two at-bats. Gimenez missed all of the 2007 season in Houston after surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder. He spent the last two seasons in the Pirates organization, hitting .305/.384/.533 in Double A last season. He was an Eastern League All-Star in 2010. Gimenez is currently hitting .253/.330/.442 with Tigres de Aragua in the Venezuelan Winter League.
Gimenez also happens to be out of options, which makes this move all the more puzzling. He used options in 2004, 2005, and 2006, and now can't be sent down to the minors without first clearing waivers.
Vazquez, who turns 25 next April 3, was signed by the Dodgers out of the Dominican Republic in 2007. The right-handed reliever was 3-2 with a 2.68 ERA in 37 games for Class A Great Lakes last season.
Brandon Lennox had a great preview of the potential additions to the 40-man roster last week, so if you want to see who is eligible to be plucked from the Dodgers in the Rule 5 draft, be sure to read that.
Since the World Series ended, the Dodgers have re-signed Ted Lilly, Jay Gibbons, and Hiroki Kuroda, and also purchased the contract of Jamie Hoffmann, who was selected in last year's Rule 5 draft by the Yankees, only to be returned to the Dodgers in spring training. The current Dodgers 40-man roster has 37 players:
| Dodgers 40-Man Roster | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Player | 2011 Age* | Service Time | 2011 Salary |
| Pitchers (18) | |||
| Ronald Belisario | 28 | 1.133 | team control |
| Chad Billingsley | 26 | 4.110 | arb eligible |
| Jonathan Broxton | 27 | 5.020 | $7,000,000 |
| Scott Elbert | 25 | 0.100 | team control |
| John Ely | 25 | 0.101 | team control |
| Javy Guerra | 25 | 0.000 | team control |
| Kenley Jansen | 23 | 0.073 | team control |
| Clayton Kershaw | 23 | 2.105 | team control |
| Hong-Chih Kuo | 29 | 4.114 | arb eligible |
| Hiroki Kuroda | 36 | 3.000 | $8,000,000 |
| Brent Leach | 28 | 0.090 | team control |
| Ted Lilly | 35 | 10.102 | $7,500,000 |
| Jon Link | 27 | 0.047 | team control |
| Carlos Monasterios | 25 | 1.000 | team control |
| Travis Schlichting | 26 | 0.143 | team control |
| George Sherrill | 34 | 5.147 | arb eligible |
| Ramon Troncoso | 28 | 2.080 | team control |
| Luis Vazquez |
25 | 0.000 | team control |
| Catchers (3) | |||
| A.J. Ellis | 30 | 1.062 | team control |
| Hector Gimenez |
28 | 1.016 | team control |
| Russell Martin | 28 | 4.150 | arb eligible |
| Infielders (9) | |||
| Casey Blake | 37 | 8.138 | $5,250,000 |
| Jamey Carroll | 37 | 8.020 | $2,500,000 |
| Ivan DeJesus | 24 | 0.000 | team control |
| Rafael Furcal | 33 | 11.000 | $12,000,000 |
| Chin-lung Hu | 27 | 1.016 | team control |
| John Lindsey | 34 | 0.028 | team control |
| James Loney | 27 | 4.012 | arb eligible |
| Russ Mitchell | 26 | 0.028 | team control |
| Ryan Theriot | 31 | 4.118 | arb eligible |
| Outfielders (7) | |||
| Andre Ethier | 29 | 4.153 | $9,250,000 |
| Jay Gibbons | 34 | 7.057 | $650,000 |
| Jamie Hoffmann | 26 | 0.025 | team control |
| Matt Kemp | 26 | 4.049 | $7,100,000 |
| Trent Oeltjen | 28 | 0.087 | team control |
| Xavier Paul | 26 | 1.041 | team control |
| Trayvon Robinson | 23 | 0.000 | team control |
| *age is as of June 30, 2011 | |||
For more roster information, be sure to click here.
The next important date to remember is Tuesday, which is the deadline to offer arbitration to free agents to qualify for compensation should the free agent(s) decline (the deadline for that is one week later, on November 30). The Dodgers have two Type B free agents, Rod Barajas and Scott Podsednik. Should the Dodgers offer arbitration to one (or both) of them and they decline and sign elsewhere, the Dodgers would receive a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds of the 2011 draft.
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In other news, the Pirates tonight designated for assignment old friends Andy LaRoche and Delwyn Young, along with Zach Duke (opening day mound opponent of one Vicente Padilla in 2010).
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Thanks. I think that and the Gimenez signing were reported at the same time, and then I confused them.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by the way I was pissed when Esteban Lopez retired
I had already written my piece on him for my upcoming 200 prospect countdown…he was going to be #197!
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
it'll never happen
but if Jeter does spurn the Yankees offer, isn’t he worth a lot less to any other team? Which is why he’s definitely not leaving…BUT if he was willing to switch to 2B (won’t, too much pride) and the Dodgers could afford him (can’t) he’d be a nice upgrade at 2B for 2 years. I don’t know why I devoted time writing this, I was just picturing him hitting second.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I would put the unicorn at 2B, since they would exist in this scenario.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
just wait until DS gets sucked into the 4th dimension
who’ll be laughing then?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
File this under non-news?
Odds are that they never see a plane to Dodger Stadium. And will be taken off the 40 man next year due to the flood of players that must be protected.
They do get a raise
so it is news to them. With Martin injured, Barajas a FA and May traded, Gimenez is #2 on the C depth chart, behind only AJ Ellis, I think, unless JD Closser is still around.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yep
The minor league minimum for Vazquez (on his first major league contract) will be somewhere around $33,500, and for Gimenez (who has already signed a major league contract) will be double that.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'm shocked at this
There is no way anyone would gave selected Vasquez…he hasn’t played above LoA
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 9:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I dont't know about that
I saw him pitch in Great Lakes this year and he was pretty impressive. 98 MPH fastball with a wicked slider that he developed during the season. Pitching Coach Chuck Crim said he had a “big league arm.”
That is the first I've heard about his velocity being in the upper 90's
but it appears that you are right. I found this article that says in an outing in May he hit 99 on multiple occasisions. Usually a guy that hits 99 gets more attention than Vasquez did during the year, even if he is old for his league.
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 20, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
It is true this is the first real taste of success he has had, but he has great stuff, no doubt. He walked quite a few and his K rate should have been a lot higher considering his stuff and age. He was also extremely inconsistant. Some games, absolutely lights out and unhittable, others he could not throw a strike and would bean several guys in a row. Just saying I understand why they protected him.
Also
He is an exceptional dancer. Skip to 2:12
You need 6 years of minor (and/or major) league service time to qualify for that.
Miller will just be eligible for the Rule 5 draft.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
I just did.
Got a picture featuring two ladies with thick booty. Thank you, sir!
Lady in blue?
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/argyle-sweater#id=/comics/uclickcomics/20101116/cx_tas_uc/tas20101116
Added some stuff about Gimenez above
He missed all of the 2007 season after surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder. He did, however, accrue a whole year of major league service time that season.
Trying to find some video of Hector Gimenez other than an interview. Who the fuck puts a video game highlight on youtube?!?!
I believe this is actually him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwoqUWS0F6o
with some dance music to boot.
I don't see much point to that highlight
but there are many “e-sports” out there,and some very humorous things can happen in what is otherwise a fairly normal playthrough of a game.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
someone who expects that to be the only evidence that they ever made the show
My life has a great cast, I just can't figure out the plot.
what vidja game has the Mexican league on it?
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
So people I’ve heard of that are unprotected (I think): Justin Miller, Jaime Pedroza, Tim Sexton, Tommy Giles. Anyone care?
Tommy Giles retired during the 2010 season
you can just use the list of players I included in my 40 man roster addition preview and those are the ones left unprotected.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/7/1798684/40-man-roster-addition-rule-5-draft-preview
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I had a link to your article in the original draft, but when the Dodgers selfishly didn’t think of me by adding Justin Miller, the link went away when I took out all the Justin Miller stuff.
I re-added the link.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I should really look this up
because I used to know it, but who is eligible for the Rule V draft?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
oh good, that's why I don't recognize any of the names
the 2011 Rule 5 draft should be interesting.
I’m guessing at some point, someone is going to look around the other rosters to see who might be worth picking up for the Rule V draft?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
From an old BA Astros chat:
Q: Steve from Springfield, Illinois asks:
The Astros continue to be excited about switch-hitting catching prospect, Hector Gimenez. Who will have a better major league career, Gimenez or John Buck (acquired by KC in the Carlos Beltran deal)?
A:
Jim Callis: I’ll go with Buck. I’m not sure Buck will hit for average, but I think he can hit 15 or so homers per year. Gimenez is a little better defensively, but the jury is still out on his bat.
Yeah
They needed depth anyway, whether or not Martin is back. I do share Brandon’s concern as to why he was added to the 40-man already, but oh well.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
To expand a little more on the additions
First, I don’t see why the Dodgers didn’t simply wait to sign Hector Gimenez until after the Rule 5 draft because then they wouldn’t have had to add him to their 40 man roster. I mean the obvious answer is that another team could have signed him during that time period, but let’s be real, I don’t think teams were lining up o sign him.
For Vasquez, I take back what I said earlier because he did actually throw 12.2 innings in HiA in 2009 and 19 innings in HiA in 2008. It was just last year that he spent in LoA. But that doesn’t change the fact that nobody would have picked him in the Rule 5. Sure he had a great ERA, but his FIP was only 4.15 and he was very old for the league. Maybe it was the .173 batting average against that god the Dodgers excited, which I’ll admit is really good, but not worth adding to the 40 man roster. I have a feeling he’ll become another Mario Alvarez or Jesus Castillo
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions
Wouldn’t you think he’s more of a scouting pick? That we had eyeballs on him that were impressed by what they saw? I’ll definitely defer to the Dodgers when it comes to scouting arms.
I agree in that he could be a sleeper prospect for us
but I just don’t think anyone would have picked him in the Rule 5 draft. Of coure we’ll never know now that he is on the 40 man, but I just don’t think anyone would have taken a flyer on Vasquez
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Also Vasquez only threw 40.1 innings last year
So his solid stats were only in a limited sample size. Also, even though Rule 5 guys are used sparingly, it seems like it would be difficult for him to make it through a full season on a MLB roster after throwing just 40 innings the previous year.
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
The non-Monks
who made it through the season last year after getting picked in the Rule 5 draft both spent all season in the bullpen:
David Herndon: 52.1 IP with the Phillies
Hector Ambriz: 48.1 IP with the Indians
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
good find
inning-wise, that would definitely be doable then for a guy like Vasquez. Still don’t like the addition, as both those guys you mentioned, and Monk, had at least spent some time above A-ball.
In fact, every pitched selected in the 2009 Rule 5 draft had played in AA or above except for Armando Zerpa, and he was picked by the Dodgers (though a trade with TB) so that doesn’t count
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
should say every pitcher seleted in the 2009 Rule 5
my keyboard at home sucks
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Looking ahead
We have 37 on the 40 man, and will sign…
37) Barajas, or another catcher
38) Padilla, nother starting pitcher
39) A LF, or some sort of starting-type hitter
I think if we sign a middle infielder he will replace Theriot, so that’s a wash
We could non-tender Martin, which could free up another spot, or could mean we sign even another catcher
We could non-tender or trade Loney, but I believe another move will be made to compensate (FA or trade return)
If we sign a reliever, he will take Sherrill’s spot after his non-tender
So I think there is still some flexibility left on the roster.
End of the winter meetings
which run December 6-9 in Orlando
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I actually hope we do not pick anybody this time. The way we tried to keep Monk on the roster all season boarder on the ridic.
From what I can tell
Hector Gimenez is out of options.
He was optioned during spring training by the Astros in both 2005 and 2006, then missed all of 2007 on the DL after shoulder surgery. He signed with the Rays in 2008, and was optioned during spring training. His last two deals with the Pirates were minor league deals.
Slight correction
He is still out of options, but the options used were in 2004, 2005, and 2006 with Houston. He was originally added to the Houston 40-man roster in November 2003.
Side note: it looks like the player pages on SB Nation have a thorough transaction history. At least, the one for Gimenez does (which I discovered after looking through the MLB.com transaction logs)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
With him being out of options
this move makes even less sense
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I was trying to see if he qualified for a 4th option
But I don’t think he does. He used up his 3rd option in his fifth season of service, but some of those were partial seasons (less than 100 games) so maybe he didn’t accumulate enough service time for five full years.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
yeah that 4th option is always tricky to figure out
even baseball america had trouble with it when I asked them about it once
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
From what I have found
and I’m still not totally sure…
You can qualify for a fourth option year if you use up 3 options before 5 full years of service, or if one of the years was cut short due to long-term injury. Steve Pearce of the Pirates qualified for a fourth option year for 2011 due to injury.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the Dodgers worked out a deal with him when he signed last week that he would agree to accept a minor-league assignment in exchange for a higher minor league salary as part of his split contract. That’s really the only explanation I can think of that would make sense, if he is in fact out of options.
Unless Martin is for sure a goner, and the plan is to go into 2011 with a major league catching duo of Free Agent X (like Barajas) and Gimenez, with Ellis in reserve in AAA. But that seems highly unlikely, at least as a plan for next season on November 19.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
but to accept a minor league assignment he would still be taken off the 40 man roster
and still be subject to other teams through waivers, so that would be the same risk of having someone select him in the rule 5 draft. Am I correct in my thinking here?
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
You are right
I wasn’t thinking about that. Maybe he does have a fourth option, then.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
I emailed the Dodgers for clarification. Hopefully they will answer this one. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
FWIW
This 2007 article about Gimenez’s shoulder injury (which would keep him out for the year) said he was out of options then.
Just a puzzling move.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
yeah it is
I hope the Dodgers write back with some explanation
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the plan is to get a backup so bad we’ll be thankful for Barajas.
by regfairfield on Nov 19, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Benson Interruption is too short
they should either go 1 stand up per episode or make it an hour! jeeeez
Agreed
I know the comics each do like 30 minutes, but it is cut down for TV.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Our new AJ Ellis and Cory Wade
Meaning we may squeeze one good season from them before they’re all tapped out
"You might wanna eat now, because you're gonna go hungry later, after I slap the taste right outta your mouth"
so is the other Justin Miller out
If I am reading this right he is not on the 40 man and thus would be the most likely Dodger target to be taken by another team?
I wouldn't say he is out
but he in my opinion he is the most likey candidate to be taken in the Rule 5. He is a reliever with AA experince and had great stats in 2010.
Even if he gets selected, however, there is a good chance he’ll be returned to us during the season.
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
He is still a Dodger unless somebody takes him in the Rule 5 draft. Even then, he would have to last the whole season on a major league roster.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Wright's stats have been extremely medicore
I’ve never been a fan of those 5’11" pitchers
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
No, according to KUOfax
"You might wanna eat now, because you're gonna go hungry later, after I slap the taste right outta your mouth"
by angelofdeath on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
In hindsight was this an awful trade by the Dbax?
A’s trade: Dan Haren and Connor Robertson
Dbax trade: Cargo, Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Greg Smith, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland
Is the only thing the Dbax have left from that trade is Joe Saunders?
And Dan Haren helped them to what…1 playoff appearance?
Doesnt seem worth it.
Brandon Webb stays healthy that looks brilliant.
by regfairfield on Nov 19, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but Haren was still the best player in that trade. Anderson hasn’t been stunning yet and well Cargo was a high risk player that paid off.
by regfairfield on Nov 19, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
A’s get Michael Taylor, Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Kevin Kouzmanoff, cash considerations and a year of Smith and Eveland.
by regfairfield on Nov 19, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
DJ Houlton, Wesley Wright, Gimenez
they all either went to or came from the Astros, correct? Just a coincidence? Am I missing anyone else?
Since 1981
The Dodgers have only had four Rule 4 picks make the team out of spring training: Houlton (2005), Monk (2010), Frank Lankford (1998, from Yankees), and Jose Antonio Nuñez (2001, from Mets). Lankford and Nuñez both didn’t make it past May.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
It would be cool seing a Rule 4 pick make it. :)
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
some of Neds best moves
are the ones that are particularly made for him (Get Bradley out of LA, Manny for next to nothing, Casey Blake for a crappy catching prospect….) hahah ok its bedtime.
Eric will love the chargers yellow pants
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
why does nike think putting wings on shoulderpads is a good idea?
it looks like shite for oregan and it would look like shite on the eagles
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Ridiculous
Any Given Sunday called. They want their uniforms back..
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
These can't all be from a single line
Some like the Bengals have some insane shit going on, and other are pretty plane. I imagine they submitted multiple looks for each team. Or so I want to believe.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Okay, so this made my jaw drop and eyes pop out of their sockets...
This Guy thinks Pujols could pull down somewhere in the neighborhood of $350 mill/8. I’m thinking that is batshit crazy. Anyone venturing guesses?
8/216 tops. That’s A-Rod’s avg salary over a shorter period.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, make that 8/220.
I doubt it gets that high.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
wingnut
this is the type of guy who lives in his economic model fantasyworld and thinks revenue and growth are infinite and will increase exponentially till the end of time. The only way he signs for that much is if we have hyperflation and the dollar is devalued to the level of the Japanese yen…in a year.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Haven't the top salaries been going down
not up generally?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Pujols will get around what Mauer got. Remember, if he goes to FA after next year he will be 32, and the Yankee’s got an expensive 1B. I think he tops out around 8/200 either way.
I wouldn’t put it past the Yankees to make Teixeira a full-time DH to sign him. That would be ridic.
by silverwidow on Nov 20, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Just got back from Harry Potter in IMAX
Anybody awake and checking the blog?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Unless its about the colonel on M*A*S*H
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 7:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not. Awesoke.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
FWIW
Once Sherrill gets non-tendered, the only two pitchers 30 or older on the roster will be Kuroda and Lilly. Zach Duke will be 28 next year. :)
I wouldn’t be surprised to see another older pitcher added eventually but I thought that was interesting at least.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 7:59 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I’d love to see Ned give Duke a shot.
I know he was pretty bad last year, but I’d like to see him pitch in a meaningful game after like April 18th.
hmmm
his k/9 went UP last year, but then again so did his ERA.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Zach Duke is a bad pitcher, but he’s the kind of bad pitcher Ned goes after.
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
but is he a bad
number 5 starter?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
fip of 4.95
xfip of 4.48. She he was a little bit unlucky last year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
they don’t have two liter bottles in mintland?
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
i drink nothing
that isn’t hand brewed and bottled. at least when it comes to soda.
(not true, but i dont really drink that much soda)
gotta bust the hashtag out for this one
#SNOB
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I think
she’s from the same city in Colombia as Edgar Renteria. Lots of talent down there.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
That alone shifts my stance on Mr. WS MVP
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Gimenez
Rotoworld is saying Gimenez was signed to a MINOR LEAGUE deal. Also, Dodgers.com does not list him on their roster (but they do list Luis Vasquez).
That would make much more sense if true.
Gimenez was signed to a minor league last week
and then like any other Dodger minor leaguer he was eligible to be added to the 40 man roster. I do see that only Vasquez is on dodgers.com, so i don’t know why that is
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 20, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
The MLB.com transactions pages often have errors and misinformation, although it would make more sense if Gimenez was not on the 40-man.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I think we can now call it official
Gimenez is now on the Dodgers.com transactions page as getting called up
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 20, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I love DirecTV
I’m flicking between the Yale/Harvard game in HD, the Michigan State/Purdue game in HD and the Wisconsin/Michigan game in HD.
I have 2 of the 3
No MSU/Purdon’t, but I do have Troy at South Carolina in HD! That’s right, Trojans versus USC*.
*Supreme Court says no.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Man, that Wisconsin (-4) line looked inviting today. 17-0 Badgers right now with 3:50 left in first half.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Whiskey scored on every drive last week, who doesn’t take that line?
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I hate that broadcasters defend every late hit penalty as though it is so simple to stop on a dime when a guy runs out of bounds half a second before he’s hit.
Pee Wee!
Any chance the Dodgers bring Young back at least for ST tryout? I’d love to have him back on the bench. I’m sure someone will take a chance and snatch up Andy LR too.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I can just see Reg
in front of his Andy LR shine, cackling gleefully
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I want LaRoche
just so we can trade him for Pujols after Albert goes batshit crazy this summer trying to get out of StL. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
he’s gonna land in NYY or BOS, you think?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
this is extremely upsetting
0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .
by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 20, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Three way deal
Bay from NYM to STL
LaRoche from LA to NYM (replacing the injured David Wright)
Chris Withrow and Dee Gordon from LA to STL
Pujols from STL to LA
Yes, this is more far-fetched than the Jeter scenario above :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
but is it more far fetched than the Cubs beating Miami in the 2015 world series?
0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .
by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 20, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
hey
I resent that, I wanted the most outlandish Dodger acquisition! At least in this thread. Let’s sign Beltre, Konerko, O-Dog, and Werth and have Dodger nostalgia up the wazoo.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
It is a stunner
that Carroll is a better player now and probably will be over his career than both Young and LaRoche.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 20, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a reason why guys like Carroll play until they’re 38. Because their skill set is not very common.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Blake Dewitt
See how Dewitt is doing in five years
by wineracquet on Nov 20, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I think both of them will go unclaimed and end up in the Pirates’ AAA.
by silverwidow on Nov 20, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Won’t they be free agents? Or can they be outrighted?
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
This is their first outright assignment, so they can’t refuse it.
by silverwidow on Nov 20, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
He was DFA’d, but was traded before he had a chance to be outrighted.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, if you have 3 years of service you can become a FA
and both LaRoche and Young do have 3 years service. So yeah, they will be free agents if they so choose.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
That is just for a standard minor league assignment, not an outright.
Per Article XX, Section D, Paragraph 1 of the CBA:
Any Player who has at least 3 years of Major League service and
whose contract is assigned outright to a Minor League club may
elect, in lieu of accepting such assignment, to become a free agent.
In the event that such Player does not elect free agency in lieu of
accepting such assignment, he may elect free agency between the
end of the then current Major League season and the next following
October 15, unless such Player is returned to a Major League roster
prior to making such election.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, so they’re gone if unclaimed in my opinion.
by silverwidow on Nov 20, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Johnny Cochrahn’s ghost called, he said that was too complicated and could you dumb it down
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Once a player clears outright waivers (which happens when you are designated for assignment), a team can outright that player to the minors (sends them to the minors, but removes them from the 40-man) one time in his career.
If a player has 3 years of service time (as LaRoche and Young do), he can refuse the outright assignment to the minors and become a free agent.
On a separate matter, if a player has 5 years of service time (like George Sherrill this year), he can refuse an option to the minors (which keeps them on the 40-man) as well.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
They have been made offers they can’t refuse …
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 20, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Should Ethier be pissed off at the comparison? :)
Andrew Lambo, OF
Parent club: Pirates
2010 AFL stats: .274/.325/.462, 8 2Bs, 4 HRs, 23 RBIs in 106 ABs
2010 minor-league stats (AA): .272/.334/.397, 12 2Bs, 6 HRs, 35 RBIs in 272 ABs
Scout’s take: “Some thought he was the best hitter in the Fall League a year ago, and then he ran into his troubles off the field and ended up getting traded to the Pirates. But I project him to be a legitimate hitter in the majors one day. I don’t know how much power he’s going to hit for, but he has Andre Ethier-type game.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_lemire/11/19/arizona.fall.league/index.html#ixzz15qkC1et6
Lenny Dystra loses the Wayne Wayne Gretzky home.
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/la-fi-dykstra-mansion-20101120,0,451986.story
Sold for $760,000 in a foreclosure. Bought by Dystra for $18.5 million. However the new owners also have to pay a debt of $12.5 million Dystra took against the place apprently.
Mr. Dykstra, about that business manager idea?
Hope he fares better than Willie Davis did from this point on.
Ninja!
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 20, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
New playoff format
I think they should add TWO new wild cards in each league. Basically make it NFL style, with the best division champs getting a buy into the Division Series.
The Wild Card rounds will be 2-out of-3.
I don’t ever want MLB to be like the NFL
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
right? Why don’t we just do away with series all together, play the season from July to September, double round robin, and then have a 16 team tournament
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Hate that idea
Hate any idea that has division winner sitting around while some other 2 of 3 series are being played.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
NBA trade
“The New Orleans Hornets and Toronto Raptors have agreed in principle on a five-player trade that would send Peja Stojakovic and Jerryd Bayless to the Raptors for Jarrett Jack, David Andersen and Marcus Banks, a source told ESPN.com Saturday.”
On the periphery, yes
Great, great shooter.
Thank God he sucked ass in 2002 Game 7 though :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
without looking it up
I’m guessing that saves New Orleans some money, perhaps long term.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
maybe this is the baseball equivalent of “DON’T YOU KNOW I’M LOCO?!”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
it's all coming full circle
TBLA = Four Loko = The Dodgers
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
so Four Loko is for MySpacers
good thing I don’t use it anymore
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
No, Four Loko gets people to do stupid things.
Like sign up for myspace.
Four Loko made me dance for a long ass time.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 20, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
it made some guy i know climb a tree
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
More proof that Four Lokowns, even though each one takes a couple weeks off my life.
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
dude
let’s do it on friday!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
You on an energy drink. Good times. I’m in.
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he’s a plant by the Dodgers to get a team to claim him in spring training and weaken their team that way.
I know somebody here will take you serious.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 20, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Is Davey Lopes fighting with Tommy?
Any ideas why no official news on Lopes by the Dodgers? Figured they would have made it a formal announcement at the end of the GM/Owner meetings as a nice bookend to the Juroda signing last weekend…..Ned is a former PR guy
There was no announcement, just a report from Bob Nightengale.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been wondering, do you know how much sway Tommy Lasorda still has with the Dodgers? Is he a kingmaker or just the court jester?
The
Dodgers are probably going to announce the entire staff at the same time and I don’t think there was any rush. They could wait until Mattingly returns from his wedding activities after the Winter Meeting
by bhsportsguy on Nov 20, 2010 1:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Juroda is not a new Dodger
My great spelling had a conflict on the keyboard ..the Kuroda signing!
Yes
See Brandon’s comment up top. It will just have a new #197 :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I got the following
Women should be happy to receive cooking/cleaning items as presents.
More doctors smoke Camel than any other cigarette.
Some ads aren’t gonna get me to write a joke about em….
A friend once told me
he wanted a bumper sticker that said
There’s almost no excuse for domestic violence
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
So what did he think was the best thing that could come from that?
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
He's famous
for not thinking things through
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
wow
that was insane
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 20, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
All kickoffs, extra points and offensive plays between Northwestern and Illinois will be made toward the west end zone because of safety concerns.
That’s hilarious. What is this, halfcourt football?
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2010-11/57775654-20063012.jpg
Northwestern and Illinois going for the LOL trophy
Lots of purple people here on the North Side, I guess I’m pulling for N’Western as I usually go for the better school in matchups I don’t have a real rooting interest in.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
The Wrigley story dominated the week
in terms of baseball stadia hosting college football this week. I didn’t even know Notre Dame and Army are playing at Yankee Stadium today until just now (4pm start).
probably because they didn't paint their shit purple
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Damn
I missed some great convos yesterday. I was pretty much dead at the end of last night because I stayed up so late to see Harry Potter, which was freaking great, btw. I did notice a bunch of small and medium changes from the book to the movie, but that’s always to be expected. I think the thing with Wormtail was the biggest for me, and I liked the way that happened in the book way more than in the movie. Dobby is awesome though.
Also, I am nice and optimistic, I’m just easily suckered into stupid arguments online. Just be glad you don’t have 2006-2007 me on here, I’ve changed for the better :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I am
Pretty sure TBLA would not have been ready for a 15 year old lvdown.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 20, 2010 1:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Note to self
If you decide to order pizza because you are lazy on a Saturday, be sure to double check the address online so they don’t try to deliver to your old San Diego address at which you haven’t lived in 21 months.
It’s what I get for giving up and ordering Dominos. Luckily, they were nice enough to cancel the order and not charge me.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my god
I was just going to go have some cereal or something, but you totally convinced me to order a pizza. Thank you Eric, you come through once again, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'll have to give those a shot
I only just “discovered” fresh and easy. Their ready made meals are pretty solid.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I just had a huge
Mario’s roast beef sandwich.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
So i played a small poker tourney last night in Corona where half the proceeds went to a cancer charity
50 dollar buy ins with 30 dollar rebuys and 20 dollar add ons later. I actually did quite well, made the final 5, and was even in 3rd place at that point. It was Texas Holdem, btw. I had about 10 times the chips of 5th place, and at least 3 times the chips of 4th place, and after that I proceeded to get 3 hands in 2 hours that were any good, and I went out in 5th place. Did I mention that only the top 3 paid out? lol.
I think I had used up all my luck earlier in the night when I had QQ in my hand and a 9 Q K of hearts came out on the table. I ended up going all in against my friend who ended up having 10 of hearts and a jack, then the next 2 cards to come out were a 2 of spades and the 4th queen. I’ll never get that lucky again, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This is my family motto, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Damn
Quads is freaking lucky. I thought the board was going to pair up to give you the full house.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 20, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty soon
you’ll be old enough to drink and you’ll never get close to 3rd place again.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
But you will discover that Blindmans Bluff is like a billion times better than hold em.
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
The Boss disagrees
You know playin’ blind man’s bluff is a little baby’s game.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 20, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Like someone from Jersey could have a valid opinion.
by regfairfield on Nov 20, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Your dad sounds legit, but Edison? Fuck that.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I only give Edison props because he was literally the first guy to have a light bulb go off over his head when he got an idea.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ohio St v Iowa
There aren’t many things better than watching a college player get up after a hit (on a player who didn’t catch the ball) to celebrate after a flag has been thrown, only he didn’t yet notice.
An Ohio State loss would greatly help Stanford get into a BCS bowl game.
This Sam Adams Octoberfest
is hitting the spot.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Great day for Stanford at this very moment
They are killing Cal 45-7
LSU is losing 24-23 in the 3rd quarter
Ohio St is losing 17-10 in the 4th quarter.
If those latter two both hold up, Stanford is a mortal lock for a BCS bowl game.
When will Josie finally return here after that shellacking in the Big Game?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
To complain about Boise State making the title game :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
My Wednesday class got moved to Saturday, I was busy talking about Othering in postcolonial literature. Now.
What the holy fuck? I knew last year’s Big Game was more the last hurrah than anything, as two ships passed in the night. My only hope that the last four Big Games (2-2 in that span) are a sign that Cal-Stanford is becoming the Pac 10’s most important rivalry as USC-UCLA has been meaningless for awhile.
Stanford deserves a BCS slot more than Boise St. Beating USC, Cal (10th best defense statistically in the country) and Notre Dame in the same year, and putting up a hell of a fight against Oregon, means way more than Boise St. running roughshod over the 89th worst defense in the league.
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
I would
Say Oregon v. Oregon State has been the one with the most on the line recently.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 20, 2010 4:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This will be the 3rd year in a row that the OSU/Oregon game has BCS implications.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
Technically, the Civil War game could be meaningless. If Oregon lost to Arizona and Oregon State beat Stanford next week. Oregon would secure a Rose Bowl bid but would be out of the National Championship race.
That’s fairly unlikely though.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
I fully acknowledge that the Civil Wa is the premier game in the Pac right now, and apologize for the oversight. It is close between the two games though
by Josie Becker on Nov 20, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Most important rivalry in Cali still?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I will
Acknowledge that for about 20 years, the USC v. UCLA game has not been a competitive game, each school had long winning streaks on the last two decades.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 20, 2010 5:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
long seems like an understatement
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Can’t imagine beating 5-5 Notre Dame counts for much these days.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Notre Dame who is currently losing to Army.
/Figured I’d get that comment out quickly.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Ohio State leads 20-17 with 1:47 left.
LSU now up 29-24 early in the 4th
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, what a drop by Ohio State
Beautiful bomb throw by Pryor, guy was open by 5 steps, and it was right through his hands.
Pryor somehow wasn’t penalized for taking his helmet off (in disgust) on the field.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't that only an NFL rule?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I saw that.
When did Matt Holliday start playing WR for OSU?
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 20, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
What was that you were saying about being the gay son? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Is Bryce Harper's eye black
all that much different from Alice Cooper’s stage makeup back in the day?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Dodgers statement on signing Japanese pitchers Kazuki Nishijima and Kazuya Takano
"These two amateur signings from Japan mean a lot to us and I am very excited to bring them into the organization," said White. "Choosing to play in the United States is not an easy decision for young foreign players to make with the language barrier and cultural differences, but I’m confident that both Nishijima and Takano will succeed in America with the help of our player development staff."
In other news:
TV reporters go bat shit crazy over rain the the Southern California area.
More airtime for Jackie Johnson, Evelyn Taft and Indra Petersons is not necessarily a bad thing.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
As long as they’re in studio in sweaters, rather than on-site heavily bundled :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I remember the USC/OSU game a couple of years back where the fog was just looked impenetrable. Players would disappear into the fog and then come out. Playing in that game must have been horrifying, especially for a QB and not knowing where anyone was and expecting to throw the football.
I remember that game. I’m pretty sure the QBs combined for something like 1000 passing yards. It was incredible. Derek Anderson had something like 450 yards 4 touchdowns and 4 interceptions.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Reggie Bush had a ridiculous punt return in that game. Off the top of my head, that was 28-20 USC in 2004.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
It was 28-20
That is USC’s only win in Corvalis in their last four trips.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
With the PAC 12 thing starting next year
How often will USC be travelling to Corvallis? Once every 4 years?
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
They play home-and-home two years in a row with two teams (USC & UCLA each play Cal & Stanford every year, plus 5 divisional games), then move on to the other two.
USC/UCLA plays Oregon and Washington in 2011 and 2012, then OSU/WSU in 2013 and 2014.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
We must be thinking about different games.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Are you thinking of the 2006 game? 33-31, when OSU built an early lead, but USC came back but had the 2-point conversion batted down in the final minute or so?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 20, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
I’m certain Derek Anderson was the QB, so it couldn’t have been that late. I actually thought it was Anderson vs. Carson Palmer, but it could have been Leinart.
It’s tough to search for, because when I google Derek Anderson and USC I get articles about Anderson beating out Leinart for the Cardinals.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yup.
Good work guys. I had just about given up.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Possibly this one?
http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=233400030
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 20, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. That’s it. 485 yards for Anderson, 4 touchdowns.
That’s my kind of quarterback.
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
2 TD, 4 picks *
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 20, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. I was (and still is) a huge fan of DA
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
MLB Network with good show about perfect games on right now
Got to watch the ninth inning of all three Dodger perfecto loses. Last two outs in the El Presidente game: Stan Javier and Chris Gwynn, not the best bench that year. At least the Browning game happened just two months before the ’88 series, so the bad taste didnt linger.
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Every game in the Pac-10 is a war! 2-loss teams in the Pac-10 should play for the BCS championship.
Take that Gary Danielson!
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 20, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Bob, you don’t understand. USC losing to an inferior Oregon State team shows that the Pac-10 is weak.
LSU losing to an inferior SEC team shows the SEC is strong.
Clear?
by Michael White on Nov 20, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t the SEC the Greatest Football Conference Ever Lived because they have defined themselves as such?
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 20, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Texas lost to UCLA. They should be in a rank that is lower than last.
A friend of mine today described Rick Neuheisel as looking like the guy who would be the jerky boyfriend in a John Hughes film.
All became clear to me after that.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 20, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Notre Dame is winning too
so with SC losing, the Naccarato index is running very high at the moment…
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
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