Dodgers Face Tuesday Arbitration Deadline For Barajas, Podsednik
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:02 PM PST
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PrintSo far this offseason, the Dodgers have re-signed three of their nine free agents. Will they bring back Rod Barajas and/or Scott Podsednik as well? Tomorrow will give us some idea of the club's intentions. Tuesday is the deadline for clubs to offer arbitration to their free agents, in order to receive compensation should they sign elsewhere.
All players are ranked by the Elias Sports Bureau using statistics from the last two seasons to rank players, and those rankings are used to determine free agent compensation should they leave. Both Barajas and Podsednik are Type B free agents, meaning they are ranked in the top 40%, but not in their top 20% of their respective positions. Offering arbitration to a Type B free agent nets a supplemental 2011 draft pick in between the first and second rounds, should the free agent sign with another team. Unlike with Type A free agents, the signing team does not forfeit a draft pick.
There are two sides to offering arbitration. If the player accepts, he is bound to the club for one year. The two sides will exchange salary figures sometime before January 18, and if they can't come to a contract agreement will head into an arbitration hearing scheduled some time between February 1-21. If the player declines, the team gets a draft pick when the player signs elsewhere. Declining arbitration does not prevent the player from re-signing with his old team, as used to be the case.
Barajas, 35, hit .240/.284/.447 with 17 home runs and 47 RBI in 99 games. He was claimed off waivers from the Mets on August 22, and went on a tear with his hometown team, hitting .297/.361/.578 with five home runs and 13 RBI in 25 games. He made $500,000 last year plus incentives. The smile never left Barajas' face since he arrived in Los Angeles, and general manager Ned Colletti tends to like players who like playing here, so I expect the Dodgers will offer arbitration to Barajas, and happily take him back for one year if he accepts.
Podsednik, who turns 35 in March, was another midseason acquisition, acquired from the Royals on July 28. The speedy yet light-hitting Podsednik hit just .262/.313/336 as a Dodger, and he didn't run much either, stealing just five bases in eight attempts in 39 games in Los Angeles. His season was cut short in early September by plantar fasciitis. He made $1.65 million last year, but declined a $2 million mutual option to return in 2011. The Dodgers wanted him back at $2 million, and I doubt he would earn substantially more in arbitration. I think the Dodgers take the risk and offer arbitration to Podsednik, content with his return on a one-year deal.
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In other news, the Dodgers signed left-handed pitcher Dana Eveland to a minor league contract, according to Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. The 27-year old has a 6.96 ERA over the last two seasons, split between Oakland, Toronto, and Pittsburgh, with 58 walks and 46 strikeouts in 98 1/3 innings over 25 games, including 19 starts.
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I think both will be offered arb.
Scotty Pods because the Dodgers want him back, and Barajas because they still need a back up catcher.
There is a posting to do scab subbing for the La Habra School District.
teacher strikes don’t last long (the longest they go is usually a week), and scabbing basically means you’re persona non grata in that district because the Teachers union will refuse to allow into their membership. But its $250 a day….
There’s no good that can come from this.
by regfairfield on Nov 22, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sure There Is
Type-B free agent compensation draft picks if we offer arbitration and they sign elsewhere.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 22, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Tripon qualifies for Type B, not enough days taught.
by regfairfield on Nov 22, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Busch is made you didn’t remember him.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I Suppose One Shouldn't Assume People Are Talking About The Dodgers On The Dodger Board
by CanuckDodger on Nov 22, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
You should assume they aren’t talking about the Dodgers when they’re addressing the post directly above it not about the Dodgers.
by regfairfield on Nov 22, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Unless It Is the First Post, Everybody's Post Appears Below Somebody Else's
And your comment could be applied to the subject of the Dodgers dealing with arbitration issues regarding Podsednick and Barajas. It is not like your comment was so detailed and specific it was self-explanatory.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 22, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Not true
There is a hierarchy. If you hit reply to a post, it will appear, indented, below that post. Other replies to replies will be indented further.
Your post that BH was amused at, for instance, was a reply to Reg’s reply to Tripon’s teaching conundrum.
An alternate would have been a new comment, at the bottom. But we are splitting hairs at this point.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe SBNtion software displays differently in Canada.
by Tripon on Nov 22, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Still waiting for the ability to close subthreads. Hopefully could make the larger and off topic threads easier to read, if one so wishes for that.
If there was a thread about genitals or something you didn’t have too much interest reading, but there were 100 posts in the sub thread you could close the sub thread and you wouldn’t have to hit the Z key all the way through them. SBN headquarters liked the idea when I presented it to them, but it appears to be a non trivial software task.
Honestly
not knowing the particulars of their code, hiding something on an html page shouldn’t be that hard. My guess its more of an issue of animating and making it work from a UI standpoint, then actual coding the feature in.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Genitals or movies?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
You are just no fun
That’s what I get from this :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I don’t ever expect to teach in La Habra anyway….
the real risk is if teacher unions in other districts find out. They can’t do anything about it, but it won’t help.
Seems like a short-term gain
with potential long-term consequences.
Hey, you should apply to MLB! :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
But this is what he wants to do for a career.
He needs to consider the long term consequences.
by Michael White on Nov 22, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I would agree with Mike here
if there is a strong union in California, its the teachers and I am guessing that those who find out, would not be discrete in letting out that information.
Yeah, I was leaning against it initially. The only stronger union in California is probably the prison guards.
$250 is super tempting
but i think there is a reason its $250.. hahah
im not going to apply. as a future teacher, i wouldnt want that to happen when i strike (ha, like we will even have a union in the future :\), plus its La Habra.
A teacher at my moms school crossed the picket line
and no one would talk to her after that.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Luckily for her, she mostly taught deaf students.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
For those who care
The Miami Heat got their ass kicked at home to Indiana tonight.
Wade was 1 for 11 in his return to action tonight.
@JoePosnanski tweeted this:
No shame in getting drubbed by Indiana at home. I mean, Reggie Miller, Rik Smits, Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, that’s a good … oh … what?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Problem solved
David Aldridge reported the Heat will sign Erick Dampier tomorrow. He will help them.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
I'm loving this
I think they regret that introduction in the arena when they all signed and acted like they won a title already
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I just looked it up
and a team (I think either the Spurs or Pistons) won the NBA title after losing 7 games through November. And its not impossible for them to put it together.
Yeah
I think the Heat still end up, even by default, a top 3 team in the East, and if they get a good matchup (i.e Orlando, or if Boston’s oldies get hurt) in the playoffs they can make The Finals. I think they will hit their stride eventually.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know. What does Wade and James give you? Everybody is fixated on Bosh, but James and Wade are playmakers who need the ball in their hands. James is obviously the better player, but can Wade play second banana? And what does second banana mean? He’s not a good spot up shooter.
by Michael White on Nov 22, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think they will end up making their mark more defensively than anything else.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Any team with that much talent scares me, even if the pieces don’t seem to be complementary. They’re apparently signing Dampier. They will be a much better team if/when people get healthy. I knock on wood for anybody that is counting them out so soon.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Eveland
I assume he is just 5th starter competition filler and not someone we would actually rely on for more than a handful of starts.
I will wait to see if he is healthy. Sounds like he has been derailed by elbow injuries. I don’t think they are relying on him to do anything.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
He Is No Doubt In The Lefty Reliever Mix
We no doubt want another lefty besides Kuo in the bullpen, and I know that if I were HOPING Elbert wins the job in spring training I would be hedging my bets with signings exactly like this.
Possibility
But I would think they try him as a starter, at least for minor league depth. In the last three years, 48 of his 54 MLB appearances were starts, and in the minors 29 of his 35 games were starts.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t claim to be the stat guy on here. It is funny how you have an idea in your mind of the ability of a player and then you see his real numbers.
Enter Dana Eveland. I don’t keep up with the A’s. I don’t claim to know everything about baseball, but I follow it. I always thought that he was a good pitcher. I Swear I had no idea that he was that bad.
Whoops.
When are the Bengals gonna pull a Cowboys/Vikings and cut bait with Marvin Lewis.
FYI, I hope they do and the Cowboys hire him as DC.
:)
He had four option years, and used them 2006-2009. He was designated for assignment this season three different times, by three different teams, from February through June.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Best case scenario
The Dodgers would control him through 2014, I think.
Cot’s had him at 2 years, 65 days of service time entering this season, and by my quick count he amassed 78 days in 2010, which would put him at 2 years, 143 days. You need 172 days to complete a full season, so He would be arb eligible from 2012-2014 should he prove useful enough to keep.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn’t the question be do you really want to control Dana Eveland through 2014? 3 teams last year said fuck no. :)
That's why it's "best case" scenario
Most likely he will suck and just go away. But if he happens to Chan Ho his way into a nice season, he would be relatively cheap for a few years.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
$65 million, just a guess. But I am prepared to be wowed by much higher.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
SUCK IT TREBEK
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Not waiting anymore
Dampier made $95,983,880.00 in his NBA career. WOW!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dampier01.html
MSU
Was in the final four in 1996; I can’t remember if they played Syracuse or Kentucky, or both.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
MSU lost to John Wallace and Syracuse, and the Orangemen in turn lost to the 89 future pros of Kentucky.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Kentucky? You probably didn’t need the word “future” there.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m well versed in keeping such things discrete. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
In a special cerermony tonight
attended by closest friends and family and several million viewers, Jon Gruden and Ron Jaworski will be marrying Philip Rivers.
Wacky hi-jinx will ensue.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Jaws is so hard to understand when he talks with Cock in his mouth!
J/K I like Jaws and Gruden and them.
Um yeah...
I think Gruden can tell it like it is, and Jaws is okay, but they get stuck like a broken record on certain things and just beat it into the ground where it becomes beyond predictable. They are also full of cliches, but on the other hand sadly most announcers are these days.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Did they get divorced from Michael Vick prior to the marriage to Philip Rivers?
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 22, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen maybe a couple dozen episodes of House
What was the excuse to get this scene into an episode? And how did I not know about this before?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It’s the hot new fetish.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I guess not for you.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
she’s playing a stripper in House’s drug addled imagination in that scene, so it fits
by Josie Becker on Nov 22, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
he already has
check it out
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
This I cannot check on the office computer.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
1966
the year Lisa Edelstein was born
Also born in 1966
Salma Hayek
Robin Wright Penn
Halle Berry
Sophie Marceu
Helena Bonham-Carter
Janet Jackson
Justine Bateman
Bai Ling
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
so Women are like fine wine
and 1966 was a good year
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 6:17 AM PST up reply actions
netflix is
raising its pricing (3 at a time is going up $3, 1 and 2 at a time goes up $1, new $7.99 no discs just streaming plan).
i have the 3 at a time plan but i’ve had 1 disc untouched for the last month or so and have been rotating 2 disc. this must be a sign from god to go 2 at a time…
They must have been waiting for hulu to announce their pricing
and just said, fuck it, we’ll match them. 15 for two disks and all that streaming content is a fucking steal.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
they want people to go more towards streaming
move makes sense for them even if it ticks DVD-renting customers off.
of course you could always try other places just to stick it to ’em. ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
There is a significant cost to them still
with the bandwith streaming eats up. I view it, based on their general attitude towards streaming, that they really truly believe that streaming is the future and want to get a stranglehold on the market while they still can.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I mean really though
20 bucks a month for 3 dvds is a pretty good deal, assuming you are taking advantage of having 3 dvds at a time. It still cheaper then 3 in store rentals from blockbuster isn’t it?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
or am I thinking of game rental prices?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Just saw that the red box has game rentals now for a decent $2 a day. Nice way to try out a game for a whole day withouth paying the $10 or $12 bucks at Blockbuster
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 22, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Its basically the same price as blockbuster
just charged daily, which can be nice in certain situations.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Exactly. If you have a day to waste, you can pass most games and only spend $2.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Not illegal, but is it ethical?
The company of Scott Boras, baseball’s pre-eminent agent, provided tens of thousands of dollars in loans and payments to the families of poor Dominican teenage prospects, according to people with ties to Mr. Boras, raising questions about whether the company exploited the prospects and violated the rules of the Major League Baseball Players Association.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/sports/baseball/23boras.html?_r=1&ref=sports
I think of it as him investing in them
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Actually
there could be serious legal concerns.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Well that is certainly different then as framed by Tripon
why would it be illegal?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Sean Burroughs is back!
@Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
According to the just released minor league transactions, the #Diamondbacks have signed 3B Sean Burroughs. I can’t make this shit up.
I saw that earlier today
Kevin Towers is getting the band back together!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 22, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap, he destroyed my team in High School
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 22, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Eveland
@kenarneson Dana Eveland is like the earth: big, round, and mostly harmless. RT @mlbtraderumors Dodgers To Sign Dana Eveland
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Anybody know any good coffee/dessert places on the westside
that are open right now?
darn
im 30 min late to this thou i cant think of anyplace off the top of my head… what did you end up going with?
I'm still on my sofa
too cold outside, plus most everywhere is closed. I was hoping for an “Extraordinary Desserts” kind-of revelation but there’s nothing here. oh well, i think we might have brownie mix though.
JJ 24
Waterloo and City in Culver City, open until midnight
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
good call
havent been there yet but heard good things. excited to try A-Frame next door. need to do some scab substituting first to be able to afford it thou :\
there was a 2 hour wait for a table at a-frame on saturday night.. obv wasnt biting that cheese. want to try again tho..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 23, 2010 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
haha, we'll see about the karaoke
hard to believe that I’m married. Did time move this fast for you as a newlywed?
yes and no
time is really weird for me these days from unemployment. since we’ve been living together for 5 or so years already, there havent been too big of changes yet, the ring def takes some getting used to but now im used to it. and when she goes by my last name
I still to talk to you about the
cooking lessons, I’ll email you.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers threatening to get a good win tonight. Gonna flip it on and hopefully not jinx them. They can’t possibly be jinxed beyond what they are already jinxed at, right?
If it happens…Phil Gurnee will have a 500 word essay about the Clippers being the best 2-13 team ever.
I kidded Phil after his write up from the OK City Thunder game wondering if he was going to write a story on the Clippers for each win they get this year.
It is confirmed
Shin-Soo Choo has his exemption.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 9:47 PM PST reply actions
Nice story on the Davey Lopes / Dave Stewart relationship, with the obvious link to coaching Matt Kemp, by Dylan Hernandez:
“Matt will have someone he can trust,” said Stewart, the former All-Star pitcher who is now Kemp’s agent.
Stewart and Lopes remain close to this day. Stewart said they talk two or three times a week and see each other regularly.
“Davey is probably the best friend I have in this world,” Stewart said. “Davey is as close to me as any blood relative I have.”
i liked this one too
Lopes, who has known Kemp for several years through Stewart, said he has already reached out to the center fielder. The two talked over the phone last week about Kemp’s off-season workout program.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Charlize Theron
Lakers game last night and Clippers game tonight.
Beautiful lady
simply gorgeous
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
You suck.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
ouch
that one is worse
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
very skimpy
she looks like just a red x
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve made the obelisk.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
No, I don’t think I will be glad.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
You underestimate the internet
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You underestimate me.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
lol i knew that was coming from someone.
freaky movie, but she was good in it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Alex saves the day!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Albert
was awesoke
“Imagination is more important that knowledge”
might be my all time favorite quote.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Clippers beat the Hornets. How d’ya like that?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:19 PM PST reply actions
Well here is something for you opposite of Bowa fans
Davey Lopes is Dave Stewart’s best friend
Lopes said that back in his day, players had to adapt to the coaches.
“Now, it’s reverse,” he said. “You have to adapt to today’s player. You have to be able to communicate.”
Lopes said players benefit from having someone they can speak to on a regular basis. For him, that someone was manager Tom Lasorda.
“You need a guy to build you up,” Lopes said. “That helps elevate a player.”
Sorry
I was actually watching the Clipper game
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
that last line
is the one that makes me have a lot of confidence. One of the things that bugged me about Torre was how he wasn’t talking to the guys and basically left everything to his coaches.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think it is to quick to say he never talked to any of the players
I point to a meeting he had with the team prior to the Arizona series in 2008 when he told the Kemps, Ethiers etc. that it was now their team and they needed to own it.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
maybe not never
but I remember numerous times during last season where he said he didn’t really have a lot of interaction with the players. I’m sure he wasn’t completely cold to them, but it didn’t seem like he was really “building them up”. But as you say, we don’t really know what was going on, but it was clear at some point Torre lost a connection with the players.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 22, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'll add this
Torre was 70 and was probably more used to players being self-motivated to improve. And to certain extent, when you are earning hundreds if not millions of dollars, some would think that would be not much to ask. Certainly, having your boss be supportive (and I can’t doubt that he wasn’t) is great but in the end, I think for some the change will be for them.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 22, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
bizarro bowa
I shall refuse to refer to Lopes as anything but if he keeps this up
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Speak to your players?
What’s that nonsense?
/Joe Torre
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Near Keelung in Taiwan
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90783/91300/6964261.html
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It is interesting on how
both Kobe on Team USA 2008 version and Lamar on Team USA 2010 version both built relationships with several of the league’s stars. Here’s another story about a young NBA star finding common ground with Lamar Odom this summer.
Awesome, paid last friday, and already broke
Love the life of responsibility :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Sweet picture
on the front of Dodgers.com today, even though he doesn’t have his mustahce in Movember:
I never really thought V-Mart was possible in LA
But 4 years, $50 million seems affordable to me. He is apparently close to a deal with the Tigers.
I guess that means
they pass on Dunn, unless they want him playing RF (yikes)
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
The American League does have a DH, and Martinez has been known to catch, occasionally.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
Martinez to 1B
Loney to LF
Pinch hit for the catcher late in the game?
No problem with this arrangement.
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 7:28 AM PST up reply actions
Kemp ran into the same scoreboard wall, he seems to be doing ok now
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
The Dodgers
only make 3B’s change position. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
Because you make two positions weaker defensively. If you are going to do that, just sign a LF.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
is Martinez that bad as a 1B?
He’s ok behind the plate, but spending more time away from that position might extend his bat life?
Loney > Gibbons/Paul in LF?
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
I think the point is, why take an above average defensive 1B and make him a below average LF to accomodate a catcher-turned 1B. Why not just sign one of the many all bat poor defensive LFers and leave Loney where he is at.
There are many players who can flash the leather, but can not hit for their position.
Loney does not hit for his position.
If V-Mart can dig balls out of the dirt at C he probably can do the same at 1B.
LF – Podsednick, Gibbons, Paul – Loney can produce RBI from LF just like he can from 1B
and … he can catch the ball better than Gibbons and Paul.
Who are the other potentai LF candidates outside the cash strapped Dodger organization?
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
If V-Mart can dig balls out of the dirt at C he probably can do the same at 1B.
You know, first base is usually the position people talk about as being easy and where you put old, fat, immobile sluggers in their twilights, but let me tell you, although first base is easy, it’s totally dependent upon your fielders. Casey and Theriot would make it easy on a 1B, but Raffy’s spraycan of an arm would make VMart look like an L-screen over there.
Catching is a lot easier because you purposely try NOT to dig balls out of the dirt. You just slide your body over and let it hit you in the chest. Let me tell you, if picking a ball out of the dirt with a glove is supposed to be easy, blocking a ball is nothing more than minimal effort.
You are 98% chimp.
Ask Mike Piazza. It’s definitely easier on the body, but it’s a different skillset.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Which is more difficult:
Tracking the ball from the pitchers mound to the plate while a guy has a bat in his hand?
or
Tracking a ball from across the infield?
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
catching. when a player throws it across the infield you have no idea what arm angle he released it at.
From behind the plate, you’re the one that called the pitch, you’ve worked with that pitcher for months, you know exactly what it’s going to do.
I played both in high school and college and caught a couple guys who are now in AA. It’s really not that difficult to receive, the game calling is the hard part.
You are 98% chimp.
I can attest that the physical aspects of catching are more difficult.
I caught a JC All-American and a AA pitcher that was an All ACC pitcher at FSU.
It is simple to catch them. They don’t fuckin miss their spots. FB away. It’s a FB away.
that’s all I meant. Physically demanding? Of course it’s catching. I was specifically comparing picking dirtballs at first versus blocking balls behind the dish.
You are 98% chimp.
Blocking balls is not hard. You just have to be used to it.
Once you’re used to it, it’s nothing. I played the left side of the infield my whole life until late in HS. I got a lot bigger and started Catching.
I’d rather catch than play 3B and field fuckin BB’s all day.
I played SS from the time I was 5 until 15. Then moved to 3B. 3B is for knuckleheads.
I was good, but I’d rather not have to take one at 95 in the gut if I don’t have to. And the shitty fields we played on, there is no telling where the ball is going
As reg says
it’s different, but yes, it’s easier. It’s harder in that you need to have the mental aptitude to call a game and handle pitchers, but blocking a ball is way easier that scopping it at first base.
You are 98% chimp.
ok, we can respectfully agree to disagree on this one :)
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Also - Loney in LF
he could produce the same, but his bat doesn’t play any better in LF than it does at 1B, and there he’s below average defensively.
If you were going to have a weak defensive and offensive LF, you might as well just sign a LF and let Loney’s glove keep Raffy from being Dee Gordon.
You are 98% chimp.
I'm aware
but I don’t see Vic Mart catching much longer, in which case they have Miggy and him in the lineup at 1B and DH and Dunn playing the OF every day. Not good in that park.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
my guess
is they’ll probably move on from Dunn with this move.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
We haven’t even been rumored to be looking at Dunn. Ned, why must you hate the strikeout sooooo much!? I would take these numbers at first base: .260 .356 .536
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
not to mention
30+ HR
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
wonder what
the Red Sox will do now? Give Salty the starting job?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
Werth as a Catcher
BRILLIANT!!!
/Guiness inventors.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
That spot might be a bit rough on the left wrist.
Who wants Buck?
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
the Marlins
they did just pay $18M for him :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks for that, been out of pocket the last 30 days
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
no prob
i was just thinking I hadn’t seen you here lately.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions
Thinking about it, but not likely with date night and family in town.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
its a remote possibility
why for?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Two bits of good news today
I don’t have to see Victor Martinez not throw anyone out for $12mil at age 35, and the Giants are about to give Aubrey Huff $11mil per year.
One bit of bad news, if huff can get $11mil, you bet your ass every other good FA 1B is using that as his starting point.
You are 98% chimp.
true
and I think a few of them have a had a larger degree of success than Huff, at least offensively.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
What would be a fair price for Dunn?
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
i’d have to agree with that. he wants at least 4 years from what I hear.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, agreed on both counts
I saw the Huff news and wasn’t sure how to feel. I mean last year many of us were sure that was a dumb signing then (though of course he was much cheaper than this). He had a great year, but he is not going to have 2 more years like that.
I’d rather pay more and have Dunn. But then it’s not my money.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
why
Concern yourself with things that don’t matter like what FA first baseman make
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 9:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions
just because it doesn’t directly affect the 2011 Dodgers doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
You are 98% chimp.
Also because we are dreaming of remote possibility
that the Dodgers trade Loney and sign someone like Adam Dunn. But otherwise it probably is just a dream at this point, given limited 1B options and the payroll.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
okay so we keep Loney this year, he makes more money, fine. But if he stays the same, we non-tender him and have to find a FA 1B and then those free agents will be using what the free agents got this year as their starting point. Sure, we could try Sands over there at 1B, but I find it far more likely that we start the offseason by signing Nick Swisher. And hey, Aubrey huff got $11mil last year, Swish is worth at least that much, right? This year’s salaries affect next year’s negotiations.
You are 98% chimp.
They’re similar type players I think, and while I don’t think 2011 Swisher will be as good as 2010 Huff, he’d at least try to start his negotiations there.
You are 98% chimp.
agreed that next off season is more likely one where they make a change
Unless they keep Loney and he finally explodes! Which would be great.
Otherwise, who knows.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
what else
are we going to talk about?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
why concern ourselves with baseball stuff
on a baseball blog?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Surprise?
washingnats : I just learned that the #Nats offered arbitration to 1B Adam Dunn. I’ll have more on #MLB.com.
I was under the impression that he was unhappy bc they wouldn’t lock him up long term.
That doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t like the town or team though.
I guess I need to start answering my own questions…
:)
That’s right, just make sure you kinow the answers before you ask the questions!
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
Not a surprise
The Nata have said all along they want him back, especially on a short deal, and they know this is his best opportunity to get a big contract.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 9:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Apparently in my city (Hesperia) it’s ok to throw a puppy at a moving train. I don’t have a link yet, but a local man is going to get 3-5 years probation, and no jail time for his actions.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 9:15 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Even without the link, you’ve now put me in a bad mood.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Generally speaking, I’m not a big fan of pet murder.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
you have to empasize
the “I’M”. makes it seem like your opponent is a fan of pet murder.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Eric Stephen: He’d kill cats for fun….
TBLA, you don’t want this maniac running the blog!
Vote Michael White!
Eric Stephen
Getting the Ban Back Together
You are 98% chimp.
by G.Scott on Nov 23, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Let me turn that frown upside down
The dog didn’t die. It had a broken leg and some exposed tissues but ended up ok and was adopted later.
The kicker to the story is that after the fucker tossed the puppy at the train, the dog was still loyal and was dragging itself slowly back toward the owner!!! The story didn’t say how the guy was caught. I’m assuming someone on the train reported him or something.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 9:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yay!
dog lived!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
The only ending that would satisfy me is that the former owner gets an STD and his dick rots off. The hole that is left gets infected and he dies from a botched transfusion.
and reading TBLA?
are you mad woman?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, I know nothing about the subject, but I’ve got a friend who does and I wanted to cover a broadcast awards show. Tune in to Fox to see if I make the red carpet coverage : )
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
That is awesoke.
I am a country music fan.
I’m not an award show fan.
I will look for you though.
Congrats
I am a country music fan.
I am not surprised by this. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
in Arkansas?
How does it feel to be out of the mainstream?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Sorry, I need a bit of a refresher
The Dodgers first round pick is protected right? That means what if we sign a Type A that’s been offered arb? They get no pick at all from us, or they get a second rounder?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions
Yes protected
yes 2nd round, not 1st. So, sign away, Ned!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No
because i don’t know who that is.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
thank you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Why do you keep assuming Ned will go after every Type A reliever? Every year!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Really
Everyone knows that Ned like to trade top prospects for relievers, not sign them as free agents.
by StolenMonkey86 on Nov 23, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think any Type A middle reliever is gonna accept arbitration, after seeing what happens to every other middle reliever that does.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Derrek Lee's now available!
{twirls finger in air}
Meh, I’d almost rather just stick with Loney.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Why, because of price?
What are we thinking Lee commands?
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
interesting question
he did have a .972 OPS in 09.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
but also
he’ll be 35 next year.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
And even last year he wasn’t bad, certainly better than Loney’s 2010,2009 or 2008.
FWIW, Bill James projects Lee to have a wOBA of .367 next year.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
just remembered
he’s also coming off an injury
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
I was thinking age + cost
but don’t know for sure what he’ll command yet, or long a contract he’ll be demanding (or receiving). Something to ponder, admittedly.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It’s such a tricky thing because a team like, say, the Dodgers who are looking for a 5th starter, are waiting to see if maybe someone non-tenders someone they want to go after before deciding not to try to lock Padilla up to a 1 year deal. Granted, Padilla isn’t the best example as he will be non-tendered, but you get my point. A lot of teams will wait until the last minute.
You are 98% chimp.
Padilla is a FA
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
your point is easy to see
but with Padilla being a FA, any team could sign him right now. Though i’m sure the Dodgers could offer him arb (right?)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
They could, but there would be no compensation involved.
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I had it in my head that Padilla was a B.
Suppose I could have used the Pods/us needing a LF/waiting to see if LF-X gets offered arb.
You are 98% chimp.
He narrowly missed
He was either the first or second guy ranked just below the final Type B NL SP.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think today’s deadline has much effect on the Dodgers’ plans. They wanted Pods in October; they probably still do.
They might not offer Barajas arb, but only because he should be an easy sign.
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not a fan
of the idea of betting our entire season on Lopes’s ability to increase our stolen base tallies.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
same here
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
huh, that’s weird since its a SBNation board
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
it's blocked at work
for “Games”…….whatever.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
why?
what’d I do? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
pro’lly cause it has fantasy baseball in the title
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
It’s nice to think about, but I also remember how Leo Mazonne could single handedly make a pitching staff better until he stopped having the three best pitchers in baseball.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Plus, this story of Lopes and Stewart being best buds just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on a brisk fall day …
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Is it easier to teach Kevin Millwood how to be a good pitcher, or to teach Ryan Theriot not to be a nincompoop?
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I get this is a baseball blog
And yes, discussing improving the team is what we do here.
But if I had any sense of any possibility that the Dodgers even had an inkling of making a change at first base, I would not mind the daily discussions of the coming and goings of James Loney.
However, the positions of need as stated by our GM have been prioritized as another starter, bullpen, catcher, with whispers of second and way back, left field.
So until December 2nd rolls arounds and we see the tender list, I just can’t get into this discussion.
But I will resist urge to be a wet blanket until then.
Just because Ned says LF isn’t a priority doesn’t mean we have to believe him. He’s paying lip service.
That said, I agree with you regarding Loney, in that he’s not moving this year. But it doesn’t mean everyone has to have their corn flakes pissed in.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Pissing in cornflakes
is what I do best
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
No kidding.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
by MR.F. on Nov 23, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How about some poop in the punch bowl?
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Loney has also been named, by multiple sources, as the position Ned would most like to trade/upgrade.
Granted, IIRC it was Rosenthal and others.
Also, I assume anything Ned says in the offseason is posturing for other clubs and free agents and nothing more.
You are 98% chimp.
geez, the ‘hot stove’ is just gettin’ warmed up
long way to go ’till catchers and pitchers report
entertain the fantasy of Dodgers Greatness yet to be
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Tough crowd
people are cranky if we don’t talk baseball, and when we talk about what little baseball there is people are unhappy because they don’t think its what we should be talking about?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Please all
and you please none
-Aesop
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The blog, like the team, is not constituted of enough team players.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
i figured rule one would be
no touching of the hair or face. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
That's a given
no need to make it a rule. It’s understood :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Rule three: no doesn’t always mean no.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book.
What does this mean?
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
On Jon’s best of Dodger Thoughts book (man, was that back in 2006 or 2007?), a quote by Fanerman made the cover.
I don’t remember the exact quote, but it was something like “Dodger Thoughts is like DVR; you don’t know how you ever lived without it.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I think Phil was just on a roll that day. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I thought I got along well with Sporky.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I was hoping to bring Sporky out of cover to protect your good name but alas
she must no longer read us.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
If you start breaking down my comments
you will find nothing but emptiness.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
TiVo! TiVo!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Good call. I will wipe my tears of regret with this tissue Kleenex. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
My addition of the book doesn’t have the quote. Maybe I should buy another copy.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Yes. I fail.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Huff's contract details
2 years, $22 million guaranteed, per Chicago Tribune:
2011: $10m
2012: $10m
2013: $10m option ($2m buyout)
They also played Pat Burrell there. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
i would say they'll put him in the outfield
then I remembered how many of those they have.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Right now
Their OF is only Rowand-Schierholtz-Torres and Cody Ross if they decide to offer him arb. There’s room there, eventually.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
and I forgot about Mark DeRosa, due $6m in 2011
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
they could always put him in the infield
if Panda doesn’t make weight
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
“you’ve been champions but you haven’t been worthy champions”
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Well at least they are going with the same get insanely lucky plan for next year.
by Mike Dennis on Nov 23, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
the luckiest f’n champs in recent memory!
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 23, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Cardinals were a much better team on paper that got destroyed by injuries and got healthy at the right time. Now the ‘05 White Sox, there’s a lucky team!
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Journey lead singer dude didn't stop believin' in them!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
More per year
although there is almost no way that 3rd year gets picked up imho.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Well since the
2006 Cardinals, 2003 Marlins, 2002 Angels, 2001 Diamondbacks
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t call the 2003 Marlins or 2001 Diamondbacks lucky champions with those starting rotations. both clubs had enough offense to win, and a dominant staff. Sounds familiar somehow…
You are 98% chimp.
It’s a good thing we picked the early 2000s to be led by Kevin Malone, because there’s no way we were stopping that Diamondback team.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
The 2002 Angels had the best pythagorean record in baseball.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Also, they fucked the giants.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I was going to say
They had GA, Erstad, Glaus, Salmon who where all pretty damn good hitters, and plenty of get on base type guys around them.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
or maybe erstad was never a good hitter
stats say what?
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Erstad was still in his be really good during even years pattern at that time. He was basically Franklin Gutierrez in ’02.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
All those teams had some luck played into their winning the title
Maybe the Cardinals had the least amount of luck once the playoffs started.
Were the Giants fortunate, sure but I don’t think its fair to pass it off as them just being lucky. All teams that win a title need both skill and luck, sometimes in different proportions but you need them both.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I would imagine quite a lot of champions
even pre 2000 have some luck play into their fortunes.
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His war according to bref
was still 6 though. GGlover
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Comparing him to Guiterrez was a compliment.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah yeah
I was just realizing how amazing he had to be with the glove to offset his offensive numbers. I always felt like he just ran into one wall too many that year and the year after, f’ing up the rest of his career.
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Yep, Darin Erstad screwed Darin Erstad in the end.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Giants now have $81.5 million committed to 9 players
per Cot’s:
Zito $18.5m
Rowand $12m
Lincecum $11m
Huff $10m
Cain $7m
Wilson $6m
DeRosa $6m
Sanchez $6m
Affeldt $4.5m
They do have a bunch of cheap talent (Posey, Panda, J.Sanchez, Bumgarner) that will help, but they are still without a SS as of now.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
USC won't play everyone at anywhere!
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_16688531
USC refuses to play at Yankees stadium.
USC-ND in NYC, how do you turn away that opportunity for alumni dollars?
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Why doesn’t USC want to do it?
Should I just read the link?
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t make sense for the alumni. In other words, offer us more money.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Tickets are hella expensive for USC fans
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It can't be for next year
Too soon; it’s probably for another year down the road. Unless I missed that in the article.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Also
We don’t know if they asked for a USC-Notre Dame game. They just contacted USC, and the article happened to mention Yankee Stadium hosted Notre Dame-Army last weekend.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Oh okay. Having read the article, I would have said “no” too.
It’s one thing to ask USC to play a game at a neutral site, but NYC doesn’t make a lot of sense.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
tickets would be too expensive, pricing out traveling USC fans
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
But it will be Matt Barkley's
bowl game
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Phil
I went out to breakfast this morning, and one of the waitresses in the place was named Dahlia, and I couldn’t help but think of Phil’s foray into fiction.
No idea who that is and what she’d be winning.
Some sort of award show?
I hate award shows.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Bristol Palin will win, sullying the integrity of reality shows forever.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Oh. You guys are talking about dancing with the blah blah blah. I thought this was something marginally more important. Like the Emmy’s.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
integrity of reality shows
If you believe reality shows have integrity, you’re fucked anyway. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I suck.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Yeah…. huh?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
anybody
can beat anybody on any given day
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Or anybody can beat a team that can beat someone else they wouldn't be able to
creating a circle of life
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we do?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
then isn't it
NPOTS?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
sorry, i’m not trying to be a jerk. I’ll…just….go over there……
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Phil Jackson was interviewed on local ESPN Chicago radio today
and he is sounding more and more like this is his last year.
Also, he said one of his “bucket list” things to do is to drive around the world, don’t think Jeannie will join him on that trip.
The Great Race
might be my wife’s favorite movie.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I am just happy that
meercat kept me and underdog out of the fray of his current venture into creative writing.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Still a chapter three, don't be so sure
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Dang
just seems insane
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Tim Brown
was saying he didn’t have a confirmation from the Yankees or Lee’s agent.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
It’s a ton, but it also sets the market for an elite pitcher at something only the Yankees can afford. I like the move.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
For Cliff Lee
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t think of it is 140, think of it as 8% of your payroll going to Cliff Lee. You’d gladly do that.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I hate now having to root for career ending injuries to CC and Lee
Remember how everyone would always assume the Yankee’s would end up with their best players. Think of how Indian fans must feel. To bad Victor went to Detroit instead of the Yankee’s.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yet any kind of salary cap at all
is a bad idea
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I've never said that
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Not you specifically
but any time I mention a salary cap someone(M White?) comes around to say it would be a horrible idea and should never happen.
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It's tough
For one, I don’t have any sympathy for the owners, and the main result of a salary cap is to achieve cost certainty for them. I don’t believe teams when they cry poor, especially when the Marlins and Pirates, et al, make money hand over fist while being subsidized by, well, the Yankees, in revenue sharing.
Also, it’s a different animal since one player can have such a profound effect, but the NBA has a salary cap and it has just about the least parity of any sport.
That said, I do think the Yankees have an unfair advantage in their market, but they’ve also been smart about it. Perhaps a smarter move in the long run is to allow the two expansion teams (that aren’t coming, I know) play in New York. That market is big enough to support more teams.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I would be fine if the salary cap was as absurdly high
as 175 million. I’m not trying to make it so all teams spend the same, just that three or four teams can’t dominate the market by spending so so much more then everyone else.
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The Yankees are the only team at that $175 number, though.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Have lowish salary cap like 110 million that also applies to draft bonuses and have high salary floor. If you don’t make it to the floor gets redistributed to players in your minor league system and players with under three years service time.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I point out the absurdities of the NBA salary cap and how the NBA has no parity at all.
The NFL model won’t work because the MLBPA won’t ever consent to unguaranteed contracts.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not asking for those salary caps
I just want something that prevents the yankees from outspending just about everyone else two to one, and it wouldn’t be that hard to accomplish.
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How about a luxury tax where after the Yankees go over a certain level they have to pay a luxury tax to the allegedly poor clubs?
The NFL and NBA are the only 2 sports I follow with a salary cap. Just saying you want a cap not those doesn’t do much for me. The devil is in the details.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
The luxury tax
has done seemingly nothing to impede the yankees spending.
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You think a salary cap would either?
Just look at the Knicks and how many bad signings/trades they made in the NBA.
The salary cap won’t stop the Yankees being the Yankees.
The Lakers would have been a better example.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I was just going for the signing players for the hell of it angle.
Nothing should stop a team from signing Allen Houston for $100 million, and trading for Eddy Curry and Vin Baker.
Yes, but the salary cap has ramifications for the Knicks making stupid decisions.
I just don’t see the salary cap as some answer to the parity question. MLB has more parity than the NBA (by a LOT). The Yankees spending on Lee and Burnett will make them look foolish. I don’t see the fixation on reacting to what the Yankees do. SF won last year with a completely different model than NYY.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
They’ve already won a World Series with AJ Burnett. I don’t think they care how foolish they look.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Salary caps aren’t going to work when you can shift a large amount of talent between the majors and minors.
Because its so easy
for teams to players making a shitload of money to the minors?
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I accidentally the whole
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It would of course be IMPOSSIBLE
for such a thing to be taken into account in any way in a salary cap.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Just because writing the rules
would take some modicum of thought, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That is the spirit
in any of the current setup it would fail, but that does not mean that a group of fairly bright people could not find a way for it to work to the benefit of the fans, the owners, and the players.
I’m kind of tired myself of rooting against the Yankee’s simply because they can spend more then anyone else.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
No, but tough to implement, and you’ll be reactive to anything teams do.
At some point, you’ll get the equivalent of declaring WADA declaring Caffeine a PED.
Just because we can’t do something perfectly immediately doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it.
Hell we’ve recognized this has been a problem for 100 years, let’s finally do something about it.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hasn’t stopped the Rays, Red Sox, Giants, Rangers, Twins, etc. either.
I’d be more sympathetic if the Yankees were on a dynastic run year after year. Instead, they’re a very good team that makes smart signings and trades.
You can compete in MLB if you have smart ownership, management, and players.
Yes, the Yankees will sign Cliff Lee, but the Phillies traded for 3 Ace type pitchers in 1 and a half years, The Giants signed Lincecum for two years 22 million, and Felix Hernandez signed a 5 year/70 million deal.
All the talent aren’t going to the Yankees.
The Yankees make the playoffs by default. Other teams occasionally get there. This is not fair.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Not fair?
The only sport I know that is “fair” is the NFL where teams can escape their bad decisions by cutting players in the middle of their contract.
The Braves pretty much make the playoffs every year too.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Add to that list:
The Angels
The Phillies
The Twins
The Cards
The only competitive division in MLB (where a division winner regularly changes) is the NL West.
Also the teams that largely spend the most money in their divisions.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
The only thing that is stopping the Astros from making the playoffs is the Astros.
The majority of teams are closer to a $100 million payroll than to $70 million.
The Padres and Marlins are the outliers.
Seems to be enough interest
in this subject to make it a story with idea’s gleamed from these comments.
I take exception with your comment the Yankees
I
nstead, they’re a very good team that makes smart signings and trades.
They are not smart, they are good only because they can ignore the mistakes they make and just buy someone else. When AJ Burnett fails they buy Lee, it has been thus so for years. If Cashman was any good at his job they would have a dynasty, instead he build teams with very poor benches but is able to snag the Abreu’s and Berkmans because he can afford them. Not because he’s any good at what he does.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
What about trading for Nick Swisher on a down year? Choosing to stay with Cano after 2008 instead of panicking and trading him for Matt Kemp? Or snooping in and signing Mark Texieria at the last minute? Or developing a guy like Phil Hughes?
They "swooped" in on Tex?
really?
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I would hardly call giving Tex $180 million over eight years “swooping in” (if that’s what you were going for.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Timing deal.
They offered a better contract than the Red Sox and Angels. The Yankees weren’t apart of the negotiations until the end. (Uh, if you believe the leaked info, I guess the conspiracy theorists would say Scott Boras were always gaming everyone.)
You might say that proves the Yankees just has the money to do such deal. But so do the Angels and Red Sox. It was their choice to hold firm to their offers. You can’t blame the Yankees going, “Okay, we can do this instead.”
So basically the Yankee history
of being smart is a 24 month window?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Gene Michael
was the smart one who helped put together that Yankee core. Cashman is like Ned Colletti with money…if our core actually turned into Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Mo Rivera instead of what it is now.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Except they can't escape all their bad decisions
because contracts in the NFL are signed with an eye towards guaranteed money.
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32-39 if the rumor is true he is holding out for 7 years
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
32-37. If you want elite talent, you have to eat some bad years at the end.
How many guys that were elite at 32 were toast at 37? I think the number is less than you believe it is.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
How many guys who sucked at 28 were elite at 31, I think the number less then you believe it is
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
True. I really don’t know what the collapse rate for elite pitchers in their 30s is. I just couldn’t think of any examples other than Pedro Martinez, and Lee has much less innings on his arm.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Short fucks don't pitch long
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
23 seasons
1958, Six Foot and under have pitched 160 innings, aged 35 or greater, ERA+ > 120.
Of those 23 seasons eight of them pitched for the Braves. Three different pitchers.
Anyone care to guess?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
no and no
I was very surprised not by the names but the fact they were listed at 72 inches. All three of them, I thought were taller.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
1 down two to go
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
So Lee’s got that going for him. I think it’s really hard to find comparables to him. ZIPS says John Smiley, Jeff Fassero, and Andy Pettitte. Smiley peaked at 26 and was done by 32, Fassero was good from 28-31 then hung around forever being decent, and Pettitte has just been solid forever. None of them seem to be all that close to Lee.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
He seems unique
I’d have thought Warren Spahn might be a comparable given how late in his career Spahn got things going.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
That seems pretty good, even if he didn’t have a period of being bad like Lee did.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
He's also answer number two to the question above
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
yes
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Good list other than the bizarre amount of love for Delmon Young.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
DelmonYoung got votes?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
A lot, 10th overall, including a 4th place vote.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
That’s why I said offensive success. Young might be the worst outfielder in the majors playing currently.
Doesn’t mean it’s not hilarious. Even then he was the fourth best hitter on the team at best.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I'd have expected
a ton of 2nd – 4th place votes.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Soriano got votes
alot of them
Vlady got votes, kind of ridic
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
awesoke
good for him.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
The Spectrum got demolished today in Philly*
Some Lakers memories there, including Magic’s greatest game.
*No, Carlos Ruiz was not inside The Spectrum during demolition.
It was the greatest and sweetest Laker World Championship Game ever
I can never remember being so excited to get home to watch a game in my life once I heard he was going to jump center. I have never watched that game again.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I was playing a basketball game that night
and I remember listening to the game as it ended.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I watched the Sixers play the Celtics there
Bird vs. Dr. J
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Thought this was a cool list
From MLB, the list of all CF to win AL MVP:
DiMaggio (1939, ’41, ’47)
Mantle (‘56-57, ’62)
Lynn (’75)
Yount (‘89)
Griffey Jr. (’97)
Hamilton (’10)
Not bad company to be in.
Of course, keep in mind
Hamilton starts in 2010:
LF – 87
CF – 29
DH – 13
So, never mind. Screw you, MLB.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
It looked good for a moment
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Mind boggling that Griffey hit 112 steroid-free home runs in two years (1997-98)
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
He no doubt has had two horrible times in NY, so it’s understandable that he would decline, but then again he could have easily accepted to potentially earn more money on a one-year deal, trying to push for another, better FA run next season.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Curious
he wants to play close to home but the two teams close to home don’t have money. He was great with the Braves, shouldn’t they just sign him again?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
They are probably keeping a spot warm for Teheran at some point in ’11.
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Hasn't played in MLB since 2008
missed all of 2009.
4-3, 4.40 ERA, 26/42 BB/K in 57.1 IP in minors with Philly last year
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/villaos01.shtml
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by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
it's just a ST invite
lets not break out the snark spears yet.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Ramon Ortiz
Russ Ortiz
Jeff Weaver
Garret Anderson
But, I do agree with you in that I’m OK with almost all ST invites.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
well
they all presented lies coated in ST performances and Gritty Veteran Leadership. HOW WAS NED TO RESIST!!!!???
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Will they invite a Felix?
Dodgers
#Dodgers invite Oscar Villarreal to ST…24-15 with a 3.86 ERA in 258 career MLB games. Last year was at AAA with Phillies
Some more Giants notes
from Andrew Baggarly:
Sabean said he received clearance to match the roughly $22 million that another club had offered to Huff, ensuring the Giants could bring back their top offensive performer last year. Sabean didn’t specify the team, which makes for a nice parlor game for y’all. (What the heck, I’ll guess the Texas Rangers.)
So it’s obvious that the money to Huff is beyond what the Giants had budgeted. And Sabean made it clear that he’ll have to tighten up in other areas as a result.
Most significantly, Sabean backed away from an earlier statement that he planned to retain all eight of the Giants’ arbitration-eligible players. While he still has interest in all of them, he said the team might have to make some tough choices now.
Also said Cody Ross is definitely (if healthy of course) in the 2011 Giants opening day lineup.
Good
depending on the Post Season Ross to be your staring LF is good. I guarantee disappointment.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
What is Jeter really even worth?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Speaking of a game of chicken
Per Wallace Matthews of ESPN NY:
Cashman: Jeter should test the market if he doesn’t like our offer.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
No way McCourt would want Jeter, right?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I would take Jeter on a reasonable contract
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 23, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn’t that be hilarious if that was the sticking point?
“Sorry, Derek, you just can’t have number two. No deal.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
What if he signs the exact same offer with Boston? Bad PR?
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
It would Tiki Barber stupid times 1 million.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
leave the winter
Clothes at home!
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 12:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You going to Saint John's?
Never made it there but have dreamed of it for 30 years.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Do
You know what you are doing when you get back?
by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 12:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've been to St. John for a couple of hours once
Trunk Bay is one beautiful beach. There is a U.S. National Park there. Apparently park ranger assignments are seniority based. They told us that St. John is the plum assignment and the last one for many a ranger. Sounds like sweet duty.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The few Caribbean beaches I’ve been to were all pretty awesome. They were all seen on our honeymoon, via cruise.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Before I was 40 hoping to retire at 50
retiring to a sail boat in the Caribbean was a dream.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Pretty good call ;)
Jeter still doesn’t have a contract for 2011. What will he get: 3/$45M?
by silverwidow on Jun 6, 2010 4:33 PM PDT reply actions
Isn't that the offer that the Yankee's have made?
are you asking if he could get that on the open market? I’d say yes.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yankees are going to "win"
this game of chicken. Who else really wants to pay Jeter 3/45 mil?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
apparently meercat
so maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see it.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You could be right, not many could afford him
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I just want the Red Sox to make an offer.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Ha Ha
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Am I allowed to agree without proving Phil’s point?
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I had a point?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 23, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think that “Lady-n-Blue” is a commenter on here. Someone that regularly comments on here.
Maybe Phil or David.
I’m not that in touch with my inner feminine side.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
We know
but it is not one of the writers/moderators/normal posters. Actual new blood.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Here's what I'm missing for those who wants a salary cap.
Is it just a tax against the Yankees, or do you think it will limit other large markets and help smaller market teams?
I guess what I’m asking is, why should you care if the Indians can’t afford Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabthia?
As a fan of one of the eight or so fortunate teams in baseball, I don’t care much.
If I was a fan of a team that had no hope of signing someone better than David Dellucci, I would be pissed.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, Kansas City had no problem overspending on Gil Meche!
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
They had no hope of signing good players, so they had to overbid in order to get mediocre ones.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
That’s more of a function of having a bad team in the first place. I didn’t see the Twins having that problem over the last ten years.
Who was the last good free agent the Twins signed that didn’t just fall through the cracks in the market? Shannon Stewart?
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Carl Pavano last year? Orlando Hudson? Maybe the Twins just have a better idea what mediocrity costs.
No one wanted Orlando Hudson or Carl Pavano, that’s why the Twins could give them basically nothing.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Jim Thome?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Good times
What else is left to say? The tension is so thick in that clubhouse right now that you can hardly breathe. You get the feeling, just being around these guys, that they can’t wait to get away from each other for a few months.
Might have had to make a run to Costco for more ink and/or bandwith for their office.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I was listening to the radio on the way to work today and it was someone sitting in for Myers and Hartman.
They were talking about Davey Lopes and how positive he would be for Matt Kemp.
They finished talking about it with the statement…“The great Bill Plashke is the reason he is here. He’s the one that brought it to the attention of the Dodgers. He got Lopes the job in LA.”
LMAO
The only people more idiotic than Plaschke
LA radio guys. They suck in circles.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Vic is
the leading sycophantic idiot, complete with ridiculous catch phrase.
By the way, the text accompanying this photo reads:
Vic “The Brick” Jacobs is feeling you up on Sepulveda and Normandie.Heh.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Say what you will about Vic The Brick, but I love that billboard.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
funny – only the subject line showed up here. Thought I accidentally deleted the rest of the comment, thus the re-post.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Happens to me too sometimes
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
...
the leading sycophantic idiot on LA sports radio.
BTW, the text accompanying this pic reads:
Vic “The Brick” Jacobs is feeling you up on Sepulveda and NormandieHeh.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I don't think Petros smokes
Could you imagine if he did!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think anyone who thinks that would be exiled from the gay community out of shame.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Holy Shit
Fangraphs has wRC+ for the minors. Which basically means we can compare offensive numbers to the league.
For instance, Ivan DeJesus Jr. sucked at Triple-A
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa291175&position=2B/SS
its a fan of sands
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa454852&position=1B/OF
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Keep in mind it doesn’t translate across levels.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
And doesn’t adjust for age, (not that it should). Still, its a great way to get context out of minor league numbers.
Yeah, probably the best we have without Minor League Splits.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t remember if wRC is park adjusted, or if it just keys off wOBA.
by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
It is.
As you may have noticed, there’s now an extra column in the "Advanced" section for batting stats called "wRC+". You can think of this stat as a wOBA based version of OPS+. It’s park and league adjusted and it’s on a very similar scale as OPS+. The difference is that it uses wRC, which is based on wOBA.
Its not for minor leaguers though
Please note that it is not park adjusted for minor league stats, but it is league adjusted.
She’s still a Moore, but he’ll be a Less.
You are 98% chimp.
by G.Scott on Nov 23, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Motocross Event at Dodger Stadium in January
http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Dodger-Stadium-Breaking-In-a-New-Supercross-Venue,3088
Some great pictures and info about the field in that article
Sunday SUNday SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
at the pomona fairplex!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
LA Taco goes BulTaco?
The whole field will be replaced after the Monster Energy Supercross event.
Frank should cut up the existing field like sod and sell it. What would you pay to have a few square feet of Dodger Stadium turf sitting in your lawn?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Plaschke loves this idea
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Give Bill Simmons credit - The man has been chatting for over 3 hours now
Daily Bugle editor (Portland, Maine)
Hi Bill,You’re a huge Shawshank fan. Did you ever wonder how the Portland Daily Bugle was able to have the story of “corruption at Shawshank” on the front page of the paper the same morning that Andy broke out?
Bill Simmons (4:17 PM)
Look, there are a lot of things to wonder about in that last 20 minutes. Why didn’t he shimmy further down the sewage pipe to the last possible spot before breaking it open? Why didn’t anyone in town know that there was an escaped convict on the loose? How did the Warden’s suit fit Andy when Andy was 8 inches taller? How did the suit get dry, and why didn’t it smell like sewage? Who gave Andy a ride to the Buxton cornfield so he could put Red’s money and letter under the special rock, and how did he get to Mexico from there?
I skipped right over that comment because I haven’t seen the movie.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I think I already knew this, but my outrage is renewed!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Propisition for you
This offseason, I’ll watch Shawshank, you watch seasons 1-5 of the Wire.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Just so I know for next time is
their a safe harbor time to post comments re movies.
BTW – anyone who tries to insert real logic into movies is thinking too much.
It really depends on the movie
for most movies, I’ll accept so called “refrigerator logic”.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Wait
You haven’t watched an episode of the Wire???
by Julio Nievas on Nov 23, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Last season kinda tails off, just a tad though. iMO
by Julio Nievas on Nov 23, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
So I've heard
if it ever goes on hulu plus or netflix i’ll be all over it.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Didn't have HBO when it started
and haven’t made time to jump in; want to start from beginning.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
What a trade
2 hours for, what, 50 hours or more?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
5 in a row
I wonder if Maddz decked the person who gave her a TSA check and now she is incapacitated?
5 what in a row?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Red Sox arb
per Fan House:
Red Sox offer arb to Beltre, Lopez, Victor Martinez, decline it to Bill Hall, Varitek, Lowell
The Saga continues
the Mariners are apparently NOT on Upton’s no-trade list.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions
I can't wait to find out
the no trade list doesn’t even exist.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
There’s shit to do in LA too, hasn’t hurt the Lakers.
The Kings and Clippers seem to draw relatively well too.
Granted, there’s like 10 million people in the LA area, so that probably has something to do with it.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers
had a good crowd last night.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Given this information, I’m not sure what the hubub is about.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Kind of like the Dodgers in Aug / Sept of any season
in which they are not in the race.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Eric would not approve
and really – is this the color that Kobe wants to wear with his Laker uniform.
Speaking of Kobe, I don't really enjoy reading about non-baseball sports
but this article/interview with Kobe is FANTASTIC. It’s kind of a long read but it’s a great depiction of the man.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-kobebryantchat112310
You are 98% chimp.
I approve of getting hits on SBN LA :)
I actually don’t mind them as a one-off thing, especially since I do like the original Grinch movie.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Original meaning the animated version?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
you ever think about how all the daytime tv commercials are geared toward the sick and invalid?
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
i guess
very excited about maury right now. all 5 of maurio’s potential baby mamas are on the set together.
daytime TV is the worst, Spike, no matter how much intrigue you find in General Hospital
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
any of you young enough to remember the infancy of commercial free cable TV?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I remember when the Disney channel was commercial free, but they’d have pledge drives or something like that every now and again, and their in between shows music was all jazzy.
It makes me feel like a crazy person trying to remember it, cause it’s like one childhood moment way back that I had with a machine.
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
AMC used to be commericial free
those were the days.. and bravo used to play a ton of strange movies. that’s where i first saw quadrophenia haha
When I was a pup
I didn’t have cable
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
NPUT
I keep waiting for some arb news on our players but since it is not happening and we are near 800 comments use this until Eric breaks the big news
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/23/1832543/blue-dahlia-chapter-two-the-beguiling
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Okay
now I have heard everything – local sports talk caller – Jeff from Tarzana, just called the Lakers the best team in the NBA.
stop the presses, this is front page stuff!
by Josie Becker on Nov 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Puppy style? You would, wouldn’t you!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
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