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Dodgers Decline To Offer Arbitration To Padilla, Barajas, Podsednik; Sign Villarreal

Vicente Padilla was one of three Type B free agents to whom the Dodgers declined to offer arbitration.

The Dodgers have declined to offer arbitration to all three of their Type B free agents Rod Barajas and Scott Podsednik, and Vicente Padilla, who was also apparently a Type B (MLB Trade Rumors lied to us!). The Dodgers are still free to negotiate with all three of them, but should they sign elsewhere the Dodgers will receive no compensation.

Barajas made $500,000, plus incentives last season. Podsednik made $1.65 million, and declined a mutual option for $2 million for 2011. Both players will be 35 years old next season. Padilla, 33, made $5.025 million last season, $1 million of which will be paid in April 2011.

In case you were wondering about the Dodgers and arbitration, the deadline to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible pre-free agency players is next Thursday, December 2.  The players in question then will be George Sherrill, Russell Martin, Ryan Theriot, James Loney, Hong-Chih Kuo, and Chad Billingsley. So, nine days from today we will know just how many pending arbitration cases the team will have.

For now, the Dodgers' 40-man roster remains at 37 players.

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In other news, the Dodgers signed Oscar Villarreal to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training. The right-handed reliever has a career 24-15 record and 3.86 ERA in his career, and he most recently pitched in the majors in 2008 with Houston. Villareal, 29, missed all of 2009 with Tommy John surgery, and pitched for Triple A Lehigh Valley in the Phillies organization last season, going 4-3 with a 4.40 ERA, with 26 walks and 42 strikeouts in 57 1/3 innings. Villarreal is currently pitching for Aguilas de Mexicali in the Mexican winter league, and has a 6.17 ERA in 11 2/3 innings, with six walks and 10 strikeouts.

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LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

little typo

no biggie

The Dodgers are still free to negotiate with all three of them, but should they sign elsewhere the Dodgers will receive to compensation.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

to compensation….

I guess I should’ve marked that for ya!

I’ll be in my room!

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not offer Barajas and Padillia

I am happy about Pods, since I think for sure he will not come back and would much rather see some of the time he would suck up be used for one of the young players.

However, Padillia and Barajas in my mind should have been offered arbitration, Barajas as a back-up and we still need a 5th starter. Realize we can still sign them

by wineracquet on Nov 23, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

We can sign him later for cheaper?

same for barajas?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess the plan is to see if Martin is able to catch still. AJ Ellis can back him up.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Barajas is in their plans, but at least they realize he’s not worth over a million.

by regfairfield on Nov 23, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Me too.

Unless out of options McGee is the real plan!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

They must have viewed the risk that they would accept as too high, which could bind them to a higher salary than they would have otherwise received on the free market. Can’t say I blame them.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I’m not getting loose tonight and boozin it up.

Playin golf at 7:30 am now.

Cuts into my whishey time.

Oh well :)

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

only if you aren't

drinking whiskey on the golf course

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Still gotta work tomorrow.

And I’m deep fryin a turkey in the morning when I get done too.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to notice a trend here…

Fine with Padilla and Pods, odd to see us decline Barajas. I’d like him to be our backup over Ellis

by Mike Dennis on Nov 23, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

They can still sign him, likely for less than he would get in arbitration

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Less than he’d get in arbitration?

I doubt it.
He only made 500,000 last year.

by Joey Joe on Nov 23, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He can use other free agent catchers as comps in arbitration.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That only works if your numbers compare favorable to other catchers.

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of surprised about Pods not getting it offered...

since they were willing to pick up his option.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Nov 23, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

Probably a case of “$2 million is cool, but $3-4 million is not.”

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Would it really be that much more?

I was thinking it’d be fairly close to what his option was for, but if not then it’s understandable.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Nov 23, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here. There’s almost no way he accepts it. Just baffling.

"Nothing in life is simple."
http://df29.blogspot.com

by Dustin Nosler on Nov 23, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder how well the catchers hit in September?

I know Ellis was on fire for a spell….

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

Jon Rauch

no arbitration offer, yes or no on kicking those tires

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

Im sure he’d like to close for someone.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Rauch is worth a kick

Rauch is worth a kick even if he is tall. How much money would the Dodgers save on Barajas?

by wineracquet on Nov 23, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Kenny Powers has 2 rules

1) Don’t fuck with the devil.
2) Don’t do a 3 way with a relative.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think my foot may have nudged his chair once.

Once.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No here...

I’d be very happy if we didn’t sign any more relievers above the league minimum. Save the money for offense.

by CarolinaDodger on Nov 24, 2010 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

People would complain no matter what

by Michael White on Nov 23, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Quite the little factoid.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it shows that we reached our budget for the most part.

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It couldn’t possibly be that not every decision is black and white, and that there are many moving parts, or that the club simply came to a decision that, even though they might want any or all three of these free agents back in 2011, the cost would have been higher than they believe they can sign for on the open market. It couldn’t possibly be an in-depth risk analysis that yielded this result, right?

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m probably wrong. shrugs

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

well

at least you can admit it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This did not get the credit it deserves.

If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."

by G.Scott on Nov 23, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I giggled

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to think that the front office resolves differences of opinion by playing dolphin olympics, whoever gets the higher score is deemed to have the just and correct opinion, and they go with that.

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on Nov 23, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Reds

Padres and Blue Jays have yet to announce their intentions.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

Nice 3

by Downtown Shannon Brown

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

Don Mattingly had an interview with Petros and Money today.

From what I remember of the interview.

- Mattingly is really glad that his coaching staff is both experienced and have Dodgers ties.
- Kemp, Loney, and Ethier are the offensive core, they have to play what they can do, and its up to the coaching staff to help they get them there. I think he used the word partnership somewhere, saying that you can’t just tell them what to do and expect it to happy.
- They were 10 games over .500 in the first half, and if they played that during the 2nd season, they would have won the NL West.
- Something happened during the 2nd half and it was frustrating because they couldn’t change how the season went, (which plays into reforming the coaching staff somehow, I don’t remember Mattingly’s point.)
- Feels that Broxton and Sherrill got off track, but expects Broxton to come back. (I think this implies that Broxton comes back as the closer. )
- No mention of Kuo, either as the closer or anything else. Thought that was a bit surprising.
- Petros talked a bit about ‘ACES’ saying each post season team had one or a pair, and asked if the Dodgers had that guy. Mattingly pointed out that Billingsley struggled a bit, (Pointing to the 09 season, not 10), and said he bounced back in 10.
- Mattingly really likes Kershaw. Said he’s a star, that he’ll throw against anyone, wants the ball against Halladay, wants the ball against Lincecum, won two games against Ubalado Jimenez, etc.
- Kuroda and Lilly bring two vets to the rotation.
- That’s the end of the interview.

My impressions from it is that Mattingly expects the team to live on its pitching and hope the offense as is good enough. I don’t think Mattingly expects a free agent signing for the offense that can help them.

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

I think we can say for sureish

that Loney will be back. Left Field though…

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

there are

options!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this means Russ Martin/AJ Ellis are going to be the catching tandem for LA

by Joey Joe on Nov 23, 2010 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

I would love this

If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."

by G.Scott on Nov 23, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see Kobe and Derrick Rose play a game of 1-1.
I doubt either could get a defensive stop.

by Joey Joe on Nov 23, 2010 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

Derrick Rose

wow…simply wow

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 23, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

z
mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
The Padres did not offer David Eckstein (B) or Miguel Tejada (A) arbitration

Eric may get his wish about Miguel Tejada next year. Then again, can Ned resist the true grit of David Eckstein?

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

Who the Padres going to play at 2nd base next year?

by Joey Joe on Nov 23, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully they go with Tad Iguchi or Marcus Giles.

:)

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t going to replace Jeff Kent with Eckstein.

by Tripon on Nov 23, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

haters gonna hate

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Turkey’s are cheap.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Twins did not offer arb to Matt Guerrier. Hey, Ned can go for it now. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

Calm down dude……:)

Wasn’t Eric talking about this earlier today?

Or was that with Tripon?

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It was with me.

Good for a few laughs. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting idea

NFL Network will re-air the Thanksgiving night game (Jets/Bengals) on Saturday without any announcers.

NFL Films president Steve Sabol: "We’ll have 60 people shooting the game, which is more than we use for a Super Bowl, and then we’ll turn it around in 48 hours and show it to you through the eyes of the players. It’s something you won’t see anywhere else."

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/jets-bengals-no-announcers/

by Alex41592 on Nov 23, 2010 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

That will be cool.

Gonna DVR that for sure.

Thanks Alex

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m still wondering why there isnt a “no announcer” option in watching sports.
You’d think they’d have the technology to do it.

And no…its not a mute button.

It’d be great for baseball…I’d rather listen to the sounds of the game than any announcer.

by Joey Joe on Nov 23, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You

Realize that Vin Scully lives here.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 9:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps because...

advertisers wouldn’t like it.

But then they could just bring in the audio for when they are mentioning them, which would make them stand out even more…

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Nov 23, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Its because they have giant egos

and assume that we love having brett favres dingo shoved down our throats.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Because if there were no announcers, Gary Danielson couldn’t be the SEC’s Walter Duranty.

by Bob Timmermann on Nov 23, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

your image

intrigues and repulses me

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish delias man would give the baseball card fanatics on here another fix…….

That dude stopped doing it because he knows I dig it.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

yes

and gave me the most insightful mental image via tweet

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

at first

I didn’t get why people were getting all mad that Justin Timberlake was doing movies. I mean, The Social Network did well, and dude’s been making music since he was like, 15, so I understand the break.

But he made Yogi Bear. UNDERSTANDING REVOKED, TIMBERLAKE. BRING SEXY BACK.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, that’s kind of you! I am upset I missed the party train earlier, the BCS as Country rivalries nearly killed me.

BTW I need to chat with you at some point about the classes I’m taking next semester!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

When will you be on to chat?

I am always on gmail kevblewis at gmail dot com

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy Thanksgiving

I’m heading out of town tomorrow to spend a few days with friends in Toledo/Ann Arbor. Hope all have a good holiday…moist turkey, cold beer, hearty voices for those karaoking, and safe fun all around.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 23, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Travel safe and have a nice Thanksgiving yourself.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude

You have to be at the range at 6:30

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 9:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’ll be fine.

I’m due at the range at 7:10. Light warmup. Get after it.

I got like 6 hours before I gotta be up.

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

pitching

Wedges or driver

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 9:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wedges always to start.

8 Iron

6 Iron

4 Iron

driver

Putt for 5 minutes

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

very

Good. Have a good game

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The Lakers

Biggest advantage (literally) is their length in most cases but tonight they went small.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 9:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

sure helped

in the finals last year

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 23, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Good night all

See youz tomorrow

by keithc13 on Nov 23, 2010 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Have a good night, Keith

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is down for a trip to scout villareal? Mexicali’s stadium is fun.

by delias man on Nov 23, 2010 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

You driving?

I am not rooting for him to make it, just because I have already forgotten to add the second R about three times today.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

When

I hear Kevin McHale on the NBA postgame show, I think of him on Cheers

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

bad news

Not cleaning your shrimp is not good

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

also

Using “not” twice in a sentence is a bad idea.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 23, 2010 10:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I expect mintxcore to chime in and say shrimp feces is actually a delicacy in Peru.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Tejada

What about Tejada to play 2nd for the Dodgers, have him sub at short. He played well for the Padres last year and his power at 2nd would be more than any Dodger now or in the system could offer.

Do you think he could be had for 4million

by wineracquet on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

There are worse options. Though, you’re looking at a .700 OPS with 13-15 HR’s.

Theriot is a better glove but no pop. Though he flirts with a sub .600 OPS.

by Alex41592 on Nov 23, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

For what he was worth

I liked him in SD. He could have had the renteria like run in October.

by delias man on Nov 24, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I always love the minutiae of these deals

Which don’t always get reported. From @TroyRenck if the Denver Post:

Rockies have agreed to terms on pre-arb contract w Matt Daley. He will make 422,000K in majors and $236K if in minors

Remember, minor league salaries can’t be less than 60% of previous year’s salary for pre-FA guys, subject to a maximum I believe (though I dint know what it is).

by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2010 11:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

LAT'D and it feels so good

ohhhhhhhhh HEYYYY YOU GUYS
it’s your favorite religion scholar back in action.

In Egypt, the kind of conscript labor you are talking about (and that the ancient Israelites probably would have been subjugated to while they were in Egypt…if they ever were in Egypt…but more on that later, if anyone cares) happened during non-harvest times. So, when the people weren’t needed for harvesting (which was…most of the time), they were put to work making things. If you couldn’t afford to buy yourself out, you had to serve.

If anyone wants the actual name of this, I’ll see if I was clever enough to write this down; my professor was talking about how the word "slave" in the Bible does not actually refer to chattel slavery, which is the kind Americans had in the South.

Boom. Scholar’d.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 23, 2010 11:46 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm

My dad is blasting Nirvana.

My life is strange.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 24, 2010 12:02 AM PST reply actions  

Come as you are Friday, Maddz.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Crazy as a banshee

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 24, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

that's a pretty accurate description of my

singing voice

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 24, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Siouxsie & The Banshees

one of my favorites before you were born

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 24, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

great band

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 24, 2010 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife is playing me youtube happy birthday songs

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 24, 2010 12:03 AM PST reply actions  

Happy birthday! Sorry I will miss you on Friday.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

WAIT

you’re not going on Friday, ERIC!?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 24, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm going

Birthday boy is not

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 12:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm working

my fault, to much writing not enough getting work down to take the day off.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 24, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Check this one out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztoSUhbNntQ

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 24, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The difference between the NBA and MLB

The Lakers have played 15 games or almost 20% of the season. They have a 5.5 game lead on Phoenix and Golden State. Of course the best NBA teams all win near or over 60% of their games and the Lakers could win close to 80%

by bhsportsguy on Nov 24, 2010 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

Lance Berkman

Reasons he will sign with us:

1. He wants to stay in NL
2. He wants to prove himself as a non-DH everyday player
3. We need some “class” in the lineup
4. He can start the year in LF then move to 1b when Loney has one homer at the all-star break
5. He might be inclined take a short-term (incentive-laden) deal
Bonus: He has sick career numbers and Ned and Frank can spin that shit until the cows come home.

by kinbote on Nov 24, 2010 3:00 AM PST reply actions  

These are all good points. I’m on board.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

i enjoyed them as well

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I would be okay with this on a reasonable one year deal

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

From CNN
The Pillsbury Doughboy’s name is Poppin’ Fresh. He has a wife, Poppie Fresh, and two kids, Popper and Bun Bun.

by kinbote on Nov 24, 2010 3:16 AM PST reply actions  

Late comment on (lack of) arbitration

I actually like this. There’s no Randy Wolf here, the odds seemed too chancy that all three of these guys would accept the offer, and I suspect that demand will be low enough that Ned can still sign them or reasonable facsimiles more cheaply. I’d surely rather give up the picks than be stuck with a more expensive Pods or Padilla.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 24, 2010 6:08 AM PST reply actions  

In case anyone was wondering about the budget

Rosenthal is reporting the Dodgers were the mystery team in on Aubrey Huff, that made SF raise their offer.

IMO they would have used Huff in LF.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 6:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

interesting

shouldn’t we take that as a sign they are willing to spend on somebody?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

That's my take

Although maybe more on a short term deal.

Honestly, the Huff deal is probably an overpay but it’s not that bad of a deal. There are far worse things to deal with.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 6:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think any offensive moves we make for 2011 should be for the short term (1 – 2 yrs max). This year is pivotal for the future in that they need to decide who from the current “core” will fit on this team for years to come and who from the next crop looks like they’re ready to step into a role.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He says the Giants “matched” the other offer at two years at $22 million, if true, maybe you’ll get your wish.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 24, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

No, more that Ned is willing to spend on HIS type of players.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha

Huff is an extreme “Ned guy”

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely. Veteran w/playoff experience who’s a gamer/grinder. I call it the VPEG2 factor.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2010 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

VPEG2… I like it.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

The GM is willing to spend money on the types of players he values.

/breakingnews

by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Very interesting

Maybe Berkman (or similar) isn’t so far fetched.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It's encouraging, to say the least.

He’s far from the worst offensive and defensive option out there. While he is no Jayson Werth or Carl Crawford, the fact that they are looking at the second tier and not the third or fourth tier is promising.

At that money, maybe a Konerko isn’t too far fetched.

Next target: Magglio Ordonez?

If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."

by G.Scott on Nov 24, 2010 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Konerko wouldn’t be a target unless Loney was traded, and from all indications that is not happening (unfortunately).

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see Maggs and Tejada being guys Ned would be interested in. Veteran run-producers would be right up his alley.

by OB12 on Nov 24, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

more was referring to the tier of his targets, rather than the exact position or player, but I didn’t make that clear.

If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."

by G.Scott on Nov 24, 2010 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Party Down

I have never seen it but have heard good things. Season two is on DVD for $12.58. Not quite Arrested Development savings but a good deal.

http://tinyurl.com/23×9rk6

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 6:39 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Hoe do we think Keith is doing now?

My guess is four over through 13.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 6:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I’m guessing he got too drunk at the turn and crawled back to the car.

by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeter in a Red Sox uniform

Per the NY Post

http://twitpic.com/39r0xl

I enjoy watching the NY media implode over the Jeter situation when everybody knows he will end up returning anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 6:53 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Yea its so ridiculous. Its pretty much the #1 story on the local news and radio.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 6:57 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s amazing how they make so much news about it.

by LAD17 on Nov 24, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

What is the deadline for players who were offered arbitration to say yea or nay?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 7:47 AM PST reply actions  

Instead of the typical 15-day free agent filing period following the World Series, it will be five days.
Typically the deadline for a team to offer arbitration to its own free agents has been December 1st; it’s now November 23rd.
December 7th has been the deadline for free agents to accept or decline arbitration offers from their old teams; it’s now November 30th.
December 12th has been the non-tender deadline; it’s now December 2nd.
The above dates are confirmed. On the unconfirmed side, there is word that the Rule 5 draft may be moved to November 20th. The Rule 5 draft typically marks the end of the Winter Meetings, but that gathering takes place from December 6-9 this year in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."

by G.Scott on Nov 24, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

So Iwakuma is going back to NPB

Mistake by him? or did he really deserve around 11-16 million per year like Dice-K or Kuroda?

He seems to be trying again next year, but I honestly don’t think he is gonna get more than 8 mill per year.

by LAD17 on Nov 24, 2010 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

Supposedly he is a notch below Kuroda so I don’t see why he would get that much. The A’s wanted to pay him just $3 – $5mm per year (on top of the posting fee).

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants need a shortstop

Wonder if they will do a deal with Tampa for Bartlett and what they would be willing to send. Obviously the Rays would ask for Belt at first.

by BFDC on Nov 24, 2010 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

This just in

I am out of shape. My hip flexors have decided to stop working.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 24, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

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SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
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SP 44
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

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RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
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RHP 28
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RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

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DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



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Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
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