A Brief History Of The Dodgers And Offering Arbitration
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 8:00 AM PST
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Yesterday, the Dodgers declined to offer salary arbitration to any of their Type B free agents. It was the second straight season they have declined to offer arbitration to any of their pending compensation-providing free agents (not that this season is very analogous to last season in caliber of free agents leaving). Here is a brief history of the Dodgers and their decisions on whether or not to offer arbitration to their free agents, with a look at the last six years:
2010
No (3): Vicente Padilla (B), Rod Barajas (B), Scott Podsednik (B)
2009
No (7): Randy Wolf (A), Orlando Hudson (A), Ronnie Belliard (B), Vicente Padilla (B), Jon Garland (B), Guillermo Mota (B), Will Ohman (B)
2008
Yes (3): Manny Ramirez (A), Derek Lowe (A), Casey Blake (B)
No (4): Joe Beimel (B), Jeff Kent (B), Greg Maddux (B), Brad Penny (B)
2007
No (1): Luis Gonzalez (B)
2006
Yes (1): Julio Lugo (A)
No (3): Greg Maddux (A), Eric Gagne (A), Kenny Lofton (B)
2005
Yes (1): Jeff Weaver (A)
Over the last six years, the Dodgers have offered arbitration to four of eight Type A free agents, and one of 15 Type B free agents.
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Inherently so, I imagine
since they would be (theoretically) not as good as Type-A’s but the salaries are independent of performance.
A note about compensation, yes, more picks increases your chances of running into future major leaguers, but remember for Lowe turned into Aaron Miller (36th pick) and Bake Smith(56). Neither are going to light the world on fire, or at least will struggle to get to where they need to be. Promising, sure, but no world beaters.
On the other hand, our #17th pick loss for O-Hudson got the Dbacks Allen Pollock, he of the sub-.700 OPS in the midwest League.
My point being, yes, more picks are good, but they’re nothing to get upset about. It’s a very “counting chickens” proposition to begin with.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Manny (through Bryan Morris), Preston Mattingly, Aaron Miller, and Blake Smith
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
2005: (Weaver-A): Preston Mattingly, Avery Morris
2006: (Julio Lugo – A): Chris Withrow, James Adkins
2008: (Manny – A): re-signed, (Casey Blake – B): re-signed, (Derek Lowe – A): Aaron Miller, Blake Smith
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
So 2 of our top 10 prospects - not insignificant
But assuming the team has a draft budget, they should be able to get similar value later in the draft as long as they’re willing to pay over slot, no?
The overslot guys like Zach Lee and Garrett Gould aren’t always available. Sometimes players with high bonus demands get their money and go in the slot they should go in. Aaron Crow comes to mind.
Otherwise, I don’t see why not.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
I like Kinbote and other's Berkman idea
How much is he expected to fetch? And does he need a long term contract? I’d want him but only at 2 years or so… Be curious to see who he chats with.
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he's said
he’s looking for a deal to re-establish himself. So I’m guessing it wouldn’t need to be a long term deal.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Maddz, have you seen Agora?
Just watched that film on DVD this week. Interesting for anyone with interest in religious history. Set in ancient Alexandria as Christianity begins to overtake paganism, and then fights with the Jews, and cracks down on science. Hypatia is the main character (played well by Rachel Weisz.) Not a great film but a good one, last part is esp good. Let me know what you think.
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its been on my list
thou i dont know why. i love ancient stuff like that and Alexandria always gets my attention but almost always disappoints.
Reading your descriptions, this actually sounds like a movie I would like.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
I fell into about 20 minutes of it the other night
just because Rachel Weisz showed up on my screen. Looks like a movie you’d have to see from the beginning so I bowed out. Can’t say I’ve ever seen a historical depictation that was worth my time other then for entertainment value like Ben Hur or Spartacus.
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It's definitely better with the ideas scenes than the action scenes
and takes awhile to get going but worth it by the end.
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is it streaming on netflix?
Because that would be the only way I could see it at the moment. But I’ll definitely look into it! I have to watch Fearless this week for my film class…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
the Jet Li movie?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
haha
no, the Jeff Bridges one.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Dodged a bullet there.
More disappointing Jet Li movie: War, or Fearless?
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
never saw War
enjoyed Fearless
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
It might have just been badly marketed. They hyped it as Jet Li faces dudes from around the world in a martial arts tournament, then he spent 90 minutes plowing fields.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
true
it was the same thing with Hero.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
If you ever felt like punching a panda, now's your chance.
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-KX696_punchp_J_20101117202402.jpg
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Would've posted just the pic, but it's massive.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
we'll most likely find out today
who won the bid for Nishioka right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions
and if we got the California Angels back, amirite?
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
We’re probably still Pod people, we just don’t want to pay him 3-4 million.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
well til it's official I'm going to feel like this
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
College Coeds who care about their team are the best
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I hope we're not Pod People
“It stinks!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv3FHMD4uNw&feature=related
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^speaking words of wisdom
LET IT BE!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Lugo?
I can’t believe Lugo was a type A
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 8:43 AM PST reply actions
Lugo was a good player until we got him. He had an .871 OPS with the Rays.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
Winter ball is still being played for anyone interested
Dee Gordon with a .333/.370/.500 line over his last 10 games. For the season he’s at .366/.414./.495. Also 8 steals, caught 6 times and he’s up to 8 errors now, I think all of them throwing errors.
seems like that's all of his errors
does he just try to rush?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Lots of reports have said
He either tries to make impossible plays (i.e. his range allows him to get to a ball up the middle, but he makes an ill-advised throw) or he loses focus on basic plays.
I've heard him say that
about himself, the losing focus part.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
The power of the draft
A look at what the Pirates would look like if they could redo their drafts since 2002. I picked 2002 figuring 3 years to make it to MLB then 6 years of team control, so the 2002 draftees would have left for free agency this season.
Let me preface this with, if the Pirates had drafted this way, they wouldn’t have drafted so high every year, and I get that. Also, I’m only looking at the first round and supplemental round. But….
2002: Could have picked: Zack Greinke, picked: Bryan Bullington
2003: Could have picked: Chad Billingsley, picked: Paul Maholm
2004: Could have picked: Jered Weaver, picked Neil Walker
2005: Could have picked: Clay Buchholz, picked Andrew McCutchen
2006: Could have picked: Clayton Kershaw, picked Brad Lincoln
2007: Could have picked: Jason Heyward, picked Daniel Moskos
2008: Could have picked: Buster Posey, picked Pedro Alvarez
2009: Could have picked: Mike Trout, picked Jorge Sanchez
2010: too soon to tell, picked Manny Machado.
Can you imagine a rotation of Greinke, Weaver, Kershaw, Buchholz, Billingsley all under team control? A lineup anchored by Posey and Heyward? Instead, they probably are only really satisfied by the 2005 draft.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Of course, but damn. Get lucky one time.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
You can really do that to anyone though Billingsley’s the only time they got the best player possible.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, I understand this, and even prefaced it with the fact that it was a silly look, but I can easily dismiss our lack of superstar prospects because we tend to be a pretty successful team. but the Pirates haven’t had a winning season in whole adult lifetimes, yet have nothing to show for it but a pitcher who just signed in Japan and another losing season on the horizon.
We get the argument all the time that Logan gets no credit for Kershaw because we sucked in 2005 and he was gifted with the #7 pick, but the point is he still could have missed with it, and didn’t.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Happy birthday meercat btw!
I’m sure he doesn’t want anyone to make a fuss though. Just slip checks under his door.
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Now
for the suckiest part of my job. I need to call and let someone know they are dismissed from school. I would normally not do it the day before Thanksgiving, but an official letter went out, and I want them to hear it from me before the letter arrives.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 9:04 AM PST reply actions
Ahmad Bradshaw has lost his starting job on the NY Giants to Brandon Jacobs.
I’m pissed about this and I’m sure Mike is as well.
Well, fumbles will make a man go insane.
It’s too bad since other than the fumbles, Bradshaw is a much better football player than Jacobs.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
Sklones unite
Sklar Bros are guest hosting Jim Rome so it’s safe to listen to it today!
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their podcast is good
sklarbro country.. most about sports with good comedian guests popping up like patton oswalt last week
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 24, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah their podcast is much funnier than work on Rome
esp with those comic guests (the last one with Paul F Tompkins is hilarious). Not as good on Rome but still a lot funnier than… Rome.
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Baseball America did it's AFL top 10 prospects
and also include “6 more players to watch”, but there were no Dodgers mentioned at all.
he doesn't need BA
when he has TBLA
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
I take it we have at least another 10 mil to spend on our LF situation
based on what happened with Huff, if the report that we where the mystery team is true. That should be plenty to go out and get some sort of upgrade in the field
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Since Dunn ain’t happening, I was trying to come up with a platoon (Maggs and Lefty) for the $10MM.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
would Maggs really need to be platooned?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
.763 against righties
and 1.000+ against lefties last year, so having him platoon with a lefty don’t make sense to me.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It’s odd that we’d consider Huff at $11mil but rule out Dunn who I suppose would only get about a million more per year. Yeah, it’d take two more years to get him, but I can’t believe he’d be worse offensively than Huff or worse defensively than Magglio.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
with Dunn
it might be the years he wants rather than the money.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
ned might simply not want to commit to anyone longer then 2 years right now.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Damnit. I would be okay with Dunn for 4 years.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
sadly, you’re not the GM
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
I would love dunn
but I’m not sure I want him for 4 years.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I have come to accept that Loney is here to stay for the next year, so I am giving up on Dunn. Really, I am pleased with the pitchers we signed so far, so someone like Berkman with a great contract would make me happy now. And please no Theriot
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
I don't make too many jokes about people who are Ned guys
But Dunn is the one guy I am SURE that Ned will not sign.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I certainly don't see him doing it
if it takes a 4 year deal
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I do like how when it was leaked that we uped the offer for Huff, the collective response was something along the lines of ‘hmm, well that makes sense’
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Well it was basically a two year deal
and he can play 1b and LF, so it really wouldn’t have been a horrible signing, especially considering what is actually available in what appears to be our price range. Plus, it probably would have pissed off some giants fans.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Did we ever consider Huff
According to his interview on KNBR last night and also with Hank Schulman of the Chronicle last night, Huff only considered Texas and one of the Chicago teams
by wineracquet on Nov 24, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe Ned gave his agent a contract that Sabean went and matched, which Huff had no interest in using as anything more than leverage.
Or, we’ve blown this out of proportion, there is no $11million, and the source was wrong.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Not saying we have to spend the whole thing on one player
but I think its safe to say we have at least that much to spend. At least we know we have more options then Pods.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Hmmm 11 Million to spend
opens up some nice possibilities. I wonder if the idea was that if Huff signed they would say bye bye to Theriot and give Carroll/DeJesus the gig since they would have felt they had upgraded the offense? Or if they would have spent the 11MM on Huff and committed 4 Million to Theriot?
I’d be very down with giving Berkman a base of 5 Million with plenty of incentives to hit 10 Million. Can we all agree that defense in LF is going to suck so whether it is Dunn / Berkman / Magglio we need more offense there? It is LF?
Berkman needs a RH caddie
As someone said Magg’s destroys lefties but is on the wrong side of the platoon for the money he’d want
Dunn could play everyday and is probably worth the 12 Million
Seems like Dunn is easily the best option but a platoon of Berkman/Magg’s would be killer offensively. To bad they both would not take 5.5.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
seems to me like they're commited to Loney at first for at least one more year
so yeah, LF is it. and if they could put up with Manny’s defense, and talk about potentially giving Gibbons/Paul the starting job, then why not look to someone who provides more offense. The only good defender out of the guys I mentioned is X.Paul.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
What I'd still like to do...
If we have about 11 million to spend, see if we can trade Loney for James Shields. Shields had a pretty good FIP and getting out of the AL East into our division I think he would be pretty good. Trade for either WIllingham or Ludwick, whoever comes cheaper in prospects to acquire. Probably Ludwick because the Padres do work with a strict budget. SIgn Berkman to replace Loney for next year.
Furcal
Martin
Ethier
Kemp
Ludwick
Berkman
Blake
Theriot
That’s a workable lineup. Rotation of Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Kuroda, Shields.
I think we can get around 90 wins with that if Kemp bounces back at all.
Yes we get it that everyone wants to trade Loney for a pitcher
its just not happening.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
This
Loney for Shields, you might as well ask for Greinke, it’s just as reasonable.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Well, no it’s not.
Shields is the right guy to go after. Shitty ERA but good peripherals mean he’s probably undervalued. Loney looks the part and has mostly been able to maintain a high average and high RBI totals.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
The Rays are the last team that would give up a guy with a very good contract because he had a high ERA but a good FIP.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Right
normal GM stat wise Shields was awful, he’s not even close to Grienke level right now. He has a decent contract but on the other hand he actually could be done. I’d gamble Loney on him but only because it is Loney. I’m not totally sold that Shields is not headed the same way his namesake headed with the Angels.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Shields had a crappy year last year traditional stat wise, which will scare quite a few GM’s away. Fuck it then, trade something else for Shields and non tender Loney.
Yes I realize this is all a fantasy, but I like to think it’s better than what people on Dodgers.com think we should do like sign Lee and Werth or something. I think it’s a workable blueprint that maybe we can’t do to a T, and definitely won’t follow in real life but I can still see plenty of ways to improve the team without getting crazy with the money or trading prospects.
Tampa Bay’s front office does not want to trade Shields though. Even with his shitty traditional stats, the front office wanted and convinced Maddon to start him in Game 2 of the ALDS.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Good Point
Zobrist has always been my Tampa Target, but probably not attainable.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
In my mind
We have four spots that can be upgraded offensively, 1B, C, LF, and 2B. Out of those four, I think two will actually get upgraded. Most likely we stick with Loney at 1B and Barajas/Ellis at C and try to upgrade the other two. Maggs and Tejada would be my preferred signings.
What you prefer to happen
and what you expect to happen are two different things
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think Willingham would come cheaper
as he’s not on a divisional rival, and will be a FA next year.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
What about Jermaine Dye and Berkman? Would be interesting to see if berkman would take about 6 and Dye 3. Push comes to shove, if they’re both performing you trade Loney at the deadline, stick Berkman at 1B and upgrade wherever your injuries have popped up.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Would Dye platoon though?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Has to be better than not working, again.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
You say that
like he needs the money.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Has to be better than not playing, again.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
If he wanted it that much
I think he would have played last year.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
he went from making 13million and hitting 27 homers to getting offers in the 1.5mil range. I’d be pissed too. It’s not a money thing, it’s a show of respect that you aren’t worth more to a club than Scott Podsednik.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
So signing Dunn for 4 years and playing him in LF for one and 1B for 3 years not an option? Ned has no balls if he cannot go for 4 years to Dunn.
I LOLed at this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Dude finally had a decent defensive season at 1B last year. If I sign him, it’s because I have a deal for Loney lined up to fill LF. If I’m set on Loney, as the team seems to be, then Dunn isn’t an option.
You could always just get a LF stopgap/platoon, then if you still think Loney isn’t in your 2012 plans, go look at the AGon/Pujols/Fielder market or let Sands have the job (assuming he has another good year) and fill LF with someone else. Maybe he doesn’t want to sign Dunn because he’s saving an OF spot for Trayvon and 1B for Sands. I have no clue.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Crazy to think, but Chad Billingsley could end up the best player picked in the first round of the 2003 draft, and definitely the best pitcher. Depending on what Weeks/Young do the rest of their careers, but shit those were the top 2 picks anyway and no homer here I’d rather have Billingsley going forward than those two.
2002 / 2003
were his greatest drafts. Of course they don’t look as great today as they did two years ago.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
2006
Works out pretty well too. Okay yeah we could have Lincecum but Kershaw is working out just fine for us and it looks like Lincecum/Kershaw should have been the 1 and 2 overall picks that year in hindsight.
2006 was a great draft but it’s not really a testament to Logan White. Kershaw was gifted to us and no one else from that draft is anywhere near the bigs.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
especially since we know he would have taken Morris with that pick if Clayton had been off the table. I give Logan zero credit for 2006.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Not that it matters, but Ned did give up 2nd and 3rd round picks to sign Furcal & Mueller. That’s not going to help your draft (although Raffy was a great signing).
I’d hate to see what would happen if we took someone worse than Preston Mattingly.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I would be curious to know
how many number one picks including supplemental never even make it above A ball?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Given how bad he was compared to Vance Lovelace
I think he has an assistant GM waiting for him.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
It was a stupid reach, period. Maybe if Logan had more picks he would’ve gambled later.
by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
You could call him lucky since Kershaw was nearly picked by Detroit and had Kershaw been off the table he would have picked Morris.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
I think my general point is, there are guys available on teams with smaller budgets that we should be all over. Shields will get moved for below value because the Rays have cheaper options and have a strict payroll cap. That’s what we should be doing, calling teams with strict payroll limitations and fishing loose what we can for cheap because they just need to get rid of the salary.
I agree except
we are also a team with strict payroll limitations. Not because we have a $40million payroll, but because we already have a boatload of money committed for next year.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
Consider his comment after the knowledge of the $11MM contract offer to Huff.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, we have at least $11mil to spend, fantastic. But we need a fifth starter, a LF, bullpen help, and (hopefully) a new 2B.
Moreso, Shields is only getting paid about $4.5mil next year, so it’s not like they HAVE to trade him.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
And all the holes were there when they made the offer so it doesn’t scream “payroll limitations” for the Dodgers certainly when comparing it to the teams he is suggesting we trade with.
As to your second point, you and Reg are probably right there.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
It doesn’t have to be Shields. But there have been reports that the payroll is increasing. None of my suggested moves are budget busters. Okay if we can’t get Shields, we already got the front 4. The 5th starter don’t need to cost millions, 5th starters are the least of any teams worries because they always suck. We have limitations but I think we got enough money to get a LFer and then a couple other minor upgrades. Again, it’s not like I’m saying lets just sign Lee and Werth and call it a day.
by Mike Dennis on Nov 24, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I’d rather give Jon Garland a 10/2 deal and call the rotation a success. You’re right, 5th starters aren’t the end-all, but not having one at all doesn’t work so well. I’m thrilled with the fact that we have at least $11mil to spend (even though it was probably deferred), but that doesn’t mean I should be happy that it almost went to Aubrey fucking Huff.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
it was like the siren's call to Ned
Gritty+Veteran+Good year+Ex-Giant=I MUST HAVE EEEEETTTTT!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
You can have a bad 5th starter if you have a good 6th or 7th starter. Otherwise, you need Jon Garland there, especially with an offense as bad as ours will probably be.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
we have talked about Shields as a target since the season ended.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
A team with strict payroll limitations wouldn’t move Shields because he’s got an incredible contract. He’s still making first year arbitration type money.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
There have been repeated reports
That the Rays are not shopping their starters and like having the surplus and instead they are focused on dealing Bartlett. Wonder what the Giants will offer for him?
depends on if they resign Uribe
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I had to cut out of here around 3 P.M.
yesterday and caught up with the comments late last night. I have to say that the remainder of the comments in the Blue Dahlia article had me busting up here. Keep up the good work folks.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The TV in the coffee shop
I’m studying is on mute. I can’t tell is Brett Favre retiring? Sad? Lonely?
staring at his open-fly jeans.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
excuse me, his open-fly Wrangler™ jeans
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
far as I can tell, this is the Vikings usual midweek presser, except ESPN is covering it because the Vikings are 3-7, and have a big game against the .500 Redskins this week.
Wait, that can’t be it.
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
New coach
and its 10:15 am on a wednsday.
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Brett Favre is player coach of the Vikings now?
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
he’s a sensitive soul, though he seems thick skinned
and it hurt, when his friends never stood down wind
And oh the pain!
The shame on my name.
And I got downhearted
Every time that I
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Happy Birthday Phil!
At TBLA Karaoke night, we will toast Phil despite his absence. We need to invent a drink called the meercat. Hmmmm.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Happy Birthday to a guy who always keeps it real : )
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Clink!
for Phil
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
And to you on Friday
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
If major league baseball had relegation and promotion
We would have lost Arizona, Seattle and Pittsburgh last year, while gaining Durham Bulls, Memphis, and Iowa. Who would be okay with this?
Fans of Durham, Memphis and Iowa.
I must admit, I’m fascinated by the concept of promotion and relegation
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Except
they aren’t independent of each other. If Durham and Tampa are both MLB teams, what happens when the Rays need to call up Hellickson from Durham?
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
well this is the central issue, and why it’s only a fantasy question.
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
But I think it’d be great to have two championships. One for the best 16 teams and one for the weakest 14 teams. All 30 teams still play each other for attendance purposes (the 14 will want to play the 16 to keep their revenues and rivalries up), but at the end of the year, the 14 play their playoffs and the 16 play theirs and you have a World Series champion and a NIT winner.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
That would go over great
when a team in the bottom 14 actually proceeds to be one of the best teams in the league, but can’t get into the “good” championship game because of some ranking bullshit.
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then the next year or two years, you’re back up as someone drops down. It’s more a reward for teams that are consistently good, would create more playoff games (and the money that comes with it), and would incease player salaries as well because the 14 would probably have to overpay to get talent to come down.
It’s a flawed system and I’m not pretending I didn’t just make it all up, but it’s fun to think of the different scenarios.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
No one will give a shit about next year
They will care about that year.
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Hey Captain Crankypants
It’s a flawed system and I’m not pretending I didn’t just make it all up, but it’s fun to think of the different scenarios.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
If you don't want people to discuss it
then maybe you shouldn’t have brought it up in the first place
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The rankings wouldn’t be bullshit. They will have played their way into the lower division.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Except with the way sports are so up and down
They could miss out on their legit chance to go to the championship game. The best team that year should get to go to the “best” playoffs regardless of what they did the year before.
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I’d amend this proposal to include a match game between the WS Champion and the NIT winner at the beginning of next season called the Charity Shield Goodwill Series
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody
Quit trying to soccerize MLB! :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
just throwing spaghetti against the wall here. Relegation is the kind of thing that can shake up a dormant franchise like Pittsburgh, and a way for North Carolina to win its way into relevance, even if MLB thinks baseball isn’t sustainable there. The way things are set up, franchises don’t have to win to stay a major league franchise, just be financially solvent. And even then you’re subsidized.
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Soccer question
I think I’ve asked this before, but how are fans of teams outside of the Big 3 in the premier league satisfied considering they never ever win anything. Is it just a matter of different goals? The goal of qualifying for the Champions league? The goal of not getting relegated?
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
keep it mind how small England is. If you’re West Ham for example, you’ve got Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, and Fulham all in London. Manchester and Manchester City are a hop from Liverpol and Everton, not to mention Bolton in greater manchester. Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Aston Villa are all super close…it’s not like the US where everything is all spread out
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
multiple competitions. Beside the league table you have the FA Cup, the League Cup, plus the top 4 go on to the Champions League, and 5-7 can qualify for the Europa League.
That and yes derby games are what you have to play for, plus the pride of not getting relegated
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I was just wondering how any kid in Fulham roots for Fulham as opposed to Chelsea.
Of course, I grew up in Los Angeles and root for the Clippers….
Don’t the Big 3 dominate the FA Cup too? And the League Cup? And are the most likely to go to the Champions League?
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Upsets are common in domestic cup matches. The rosters get stretched when playing twice a week. that makes the big teams vulnerable here and there.
yeah, specially since the domestic cups aren’t valued as much, usually big clubs will rest some of their top guys.
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
you have to think of English soccer the way you think about College sports. If you went to Long Beach St. that’s your team, even though UCLA is right up the road and on Nat’l TV
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
still knocks out the Pirates, though I agree Seattle deserves a fairer shot
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Boom
just bought the 3 LOTR Blu-Rays for 7.99 each on Amazon
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
The first LOTR was a movie I wished I walked out of
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Your calling me a name????
Shiiiiiiiiiiit.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I may not have seen the wire
but even I get that reference
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I wonder if anyone who did not read the books and enjoy them
enjoyed the trilogy?
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Based on the box office
yes
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I thought the books were a slog at times and couldnt get through all of them
and greatly enjoyed the series. So there.
(I did love the Hobbit book though.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
My biggest problem with the books
is getting going, becuase almost NOTHING happens for the first 100 pages, its literally just them WAITING to set out. After that once I get going I don’t stop.
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they do slog sometimes
the very beginning is probably the worst, but when the hobbits meet Strider(Aragorn) is where it starts getting exciting. at least I thought so.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I thought it might be easier
to enjoy the movies if you never read the book considering the changes he made, had me cringing. However in the end the series won me over just for the sheer delight of seeing my characters come to life.
The Bourne Series, the books were awesome, the movies had nothing to do with the books other then his name was Bourne, but on their own they were entertaining.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not an avid reader, but I thought about trying to read the books when the movies came out. In the end, I liked the movies too much and didn’t feel the need to skew that opinion.
You kind of have to be an avid reader to take on that task
I’ve done it three times, probably will not give it a fourth shot.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I liked the movies less with each one
but still enjoyed it all the way through.
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my brother hated the 2nd one so much he never watched the 3rd
that was after he watched the 1st one and we had an argument over how much they had changed things and he kept telling me it was okay.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Did you ever see the extended edition?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
No
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
i enjoyed them
but only because I saw them with my father and he made gay jokes about Frodo and Sam the entire time.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
ugh
Sorry, but I got so f’ing sick of that by the end.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
what
gay jokes or Sam and Frodo’s bromance?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
The jokes about the bromance
It just got so played out, as if it was the funniest damn thing in the world.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
my father is hilarious, so I enjoyed it
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Its not that it was never funny
it was just one of those things that just kept going and going and going and going and going.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Is the transfer any good though?
I thought I heard the transfer was… not great.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
dd you get band of brothers yet?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
No. I’ll probably rent it tonight on blu-Ray before I committ 20 bucks to it.
If Spiderman was real, and I was a criminal, and he shot me with his web, I would say, "Dude, thanks for the hammock."
but its like
a billionty hours of awesome
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
seconded
I still have to catch all of the Pacific, only saw the last two episodes
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
really??
I loved Band of Brothers…the cajun medic was my favorite.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I liked BofB too
no story lines in The Pacific hooked me. And I really wanted to like it since my dad was basically those guys.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
heh
i had fun with that before. I stumped him once.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
interesting
I actually stumped it on a character from an animated movie that has been long forgotten
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
That's GD nuts
How did it know to go Violet Boudelaire just from she’s a woman under 18 not in love
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
This is basically just a fancy version of those twenty question games?
those have always surprised me.
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yeah basically
except Akinator has the power of TEH INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
So it gets the things it knows by Googling as you go? I can’t get to it right now.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Samus Aaron
its fun to watch the “thought” process, and to realize after a few questions that you are fucked and he is onto you.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
heh
true
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I've done
Violet Boudelaire, Kitty Pryde, and Landon Donovan and it got them all, without any questions to separate Landon Donovan from Edson Buddle or Josey Altidore
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I'm sure it goes with
the most popular ones first
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That was weird
it got to Dune in 11 questions, then asked 3 seemingly unrelated questions afterwords before getting to a relevant question, then the answer of Paul Atriedes.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I stumped him
I was thinking of Wojo from Barney Miller he gave me Eric Estrada
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I thought of Nuke Laloosh
He guessed Paulie from Rocky.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
did you make him
try again?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yahoo
Just found the remote I want to control my HTPC and my PS3!
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions
Nah, Blu-Link PS3 remote. Has IR and Bluetooth
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
but you can't use that to browse the web!!!!!!!!!!!!one
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I don’t use my HTPC to browse the web. That is what a laptop is for
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
And I am replacing a four year old Harmony that is just showing its wear.
As far as I can tell the Dinovo Mini does not act like a universal remote, correct?
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Depends on what you are controlling
It should probably work with the PS3 and htpc, but probably nothing else.
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Yea, the other one would control my HTPC, Surround Sound, and PS3…and with the plugins in MCE, I have HULU, Netflix and Pandora without leaving to go to the web
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 24, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Is Andrew Luck really going to be the #1 pick next year? I haven’t followed Jake Locker lately but he was a mortal lock for that spot not too long ago.
Locker has never actually backed up all the hype
with real statistics from what I remember.
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Yes...
teams have to hope he’ll improve greatly and that his horrible team was holding him back.
@neufaustcan
ack
probably will end up a 3rd round pick
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People are projecting him...
as an early 2nd rounder at the latest. Obviously, that could change, but I still think he’ll be a first rounder, along with Luck, Mallett, and Newton.
@neufaustcan
Yeah after I said that
I remembered how easy it is for a workout warrior to make their way up the draft boards
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Playing like shit tends to hurt one’s draft stock.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Not a Stanford fan, but
the argument could be made that they had the most deserving Heisman Trophy winner last year (who ended up being snubbed) and it looks like a repeat this year.
psh
that was Donkey Kong
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If Stanford does a redux of their previous Rose Bowl appearance against Wisconsin, I'd watch it.
Ron Dayne was a beast.
Odds seem to be against that happening
Stanford essentially only gets to the Rose Bowl if Auburn loses.
If Oregon & Auburn are in the national title game, the Rose Bowl is forced to pick the highest automatic qualifier from a non-BCS conference, which would most likely be Boise State. If Auburn loses, Boise State would likely slide into the title game, freeing the Rose Bowl from said obligation, allowing them to pick an at-large team, which would almost certainly be Stanford.
The Big Ten looks like it will be decided by BCS rating (with a three-way tie), and while Wisconsin is ahead now I have seen some projections that show OSU will jump them this week (too close to tell though). Might need Michigan State to lose, making it a two-way tie, won by Wisconsin on head-to-head.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Did this non-AQ rule come up because the Rose Bowl picked Illinois that year?
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure
They change the rules every so often. From the BCS website:
For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.
Another note is that there can only be one auto qualifier from a non-BCS conference, so one of Boise State / TCU will have to be an at-large pick.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Could very well be possible
but if Oregon gets into the title game this year, the Rose Bowl will not be forced to pick an AQ for the next three years.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
That was my feeling too. The other conferences/bowls have their inferioirty complex with the Granddaddy of them All. Some people think it’s a punishment for the Big Ten/Pac 10 being anti-playoffs, but I’m not so sure about that. I think it was a punishment for taking Illinois as a replacement for Ohio State.
Of course, nobody really cared when Mack Brown pulled the all-time dick move which kept Cal from playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl.
by Michael White on Nov 24, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
If allowed to do so, the Rose Bowl will always pick Pac-10 vs. Big Ten.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
In the tradition of out-of-nowhere musings,
if Trey Hillman’s presence on the coaching staff can contribute even a tiny bit to landing Darvish, things would look pretty rosy in a hurry.
he played for Hillman
is the connection right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 24, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
That you took a silverwidowan leap there has to be noted.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh I know.
It was just one of those “oh, cool” mini moments that was instantly wrecked by the whole money thing. Mo money, mo problems can go suck it.
Citation needed on Wikipedia
On his first trip to Japan, he read the baseball comic Dokaben to learn about Japanese baseball, not realizing that the majority of the events and characters in the comic are completely fictional.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Heh
just found out that the old LAT from Dodger Thoughts and I share a birthday.
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and JtD which is why I was even more bummed he sucked.
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by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
The Boomer
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Nov 24, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
At least you don’t share one with Hee Seop Choi.
by regfairfield on Nov 24, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I’m OK with Glenn Davis and Byron Scott.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
That's the new "studio"
they just built in the sports department. They used to have to go to another part of the building.
And by studio, I mean raised floor and plywood desk
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
it would be cool if at some point you could point me in the direction of someone with hiring powers looking for a soccer scribe. No pressure, just saying it would be cool : )
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Not really sure how Editorial hiring/recruiting work but
Send an email to Mike James. He’s the sports editor of the Times
mike.james@latimes.com
He’s a good guy.
Include resume and clips, come across as aggressive and motiviated
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
The “Boom Goes the Dynamite” guy hates teleprompters.
by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
if the Dodgers brought Gagne back, it’d be awful weird if he weren’t closing. It’d be like, who’s that guy and why does he look like Gag….oh that is him. Sad. Sad.
by Josie Becker on Nov 24, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
His “comeback” last spring was embarrassing.
by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Final Chapter
Most of the players are here, hope you enjoy
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/24/1830279/blue-dahlia-chapter-three-devil-with-the-blue-dress-on
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Huff and Loney DFA
I’m wondering, no way to know really, wondering if Ned contemplated Huff 2years/$22mil and then trade or DFA Loney …which $11mil-Loney’s $5mil(?) makes the payroll hit $6mil ish…or the same with Berkman or Lee for example
I didn’t see anyone here mention that possibility
because they have constantly said they still like loney
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Huff never in Dodger plans
According to his interview on KNBR yesterday and Chron reporter Shulman there were only two teams that contacted Huff. Texas was one and the other he had not pinned down completly but thought it might have been Chicago White Sox….Don’t think the Dodgers were ever in on it, certainily not at 10mil per year.
by wineracquet on Nov 24, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
So now we have the rest of the story...
“Texas was one and the other he had not pinned down completly but thought it might have been Chicago White Sox….Don’t think the Dodgers were ever in on it”
what?
The Diamondbacks have acquired left-hander Zach Duke from the Pirates in exchange for a player to be named later, according to an Arizona team press release. Duke, 27, was designated for assignment by Pittsburgh last week following a rough 2010 that saw the southpaw post a 5.72 ERA in 29 starts for the Bucs.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/dbacks-acquire-zach-duke.html
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