Dodgers Sign Jon Garland For One Year Plus Option
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 12:40 PM PST
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PrintThe Dodgers have brought back an old friend today, signing Jon Garland, according to Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. Garland, a late-season acquisition by in 2009, was 3-2 with a 2.76 ERA in six starts for the Dodgers, although he didn't pitch in the postseason.The deal is a one-year deal, plus a club option for 2012. The club now has 38 players on its 40-man roster.
Hernandez also reported the 2012 option vests with 190 innings pitched in 2011. Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated reported the contract is for $5 million, plus performance bonuses (Garland got $5 million guaranteed from the Padres last winter), which seems like a perfectly reasonable deal. The Dodgers are loading up on pitching, but there seems to be a method to the club's madness so far this offseason.
The Dodgers were 31-43 after the All-Star break this season, which makes it difficult to remember that the club was just two games out of a playoff spot at the break. Only four teams had a worse record in the unofficial second half of the season: the Mariners, Pirates, Royals, and Nationals. The Dodgers scored a paltry 3.3 runs per game after the All-Star break, a mark of futility only surpassed by Seattle, who scored 2.91 runs per contest during that span.
So naturally, the Dodgers have decided this offseason to focus on improving their pitching?
However, it's not as absurd as it sounds. For one thing, it's still November, and we really have no idea whom the Dodgers plan on bringing in to improve the offense. For another thing, the Dodgers entered their offseason with just Clayton Kershaw and Chad Billingsley in their 2011 rotation, so it was a given that at least two starters would be signed this offseason. Those two happened to be returnees Hiroki Kuroda and Ted Lilly, which gives the Dodgers a very nice front four. However, based on 2010 it's hard to blame Ned Colletti for wanting a little more certainty in that fifth spot.
“We’re very pleased to have Jon join this group and give us five very strong starters going into Spring Training,” said Colletti. “We saw what Jon was capable of down the stretch in 2009 and again last year within our division. Year after year, he takes the ball 30-plus times and gives his team a chance to win every time out.”
In 2010, the Dodgers got very good production out of their front four starters: Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuroda, Padilla, and (after July 31) Lilly. But the remaining 40 starts left a lot to be desired:
| 2010 Dodgers Starters |
|||||||||||
| Starters |
GS |
QS |
W-L |
IP/GS |
H/9 |
HR/9 |
BB/9 |
K/9 |
ERA |
FIP |
WHIP |
| Front Four* |
122 |
81 |
63-59 |
6.26 |
7.73 |
0.74 |
2.79 |
8.28 |
3.40 |
3.35 |
1.169 |
| Everyone Else |
40 |
11 |
17-23 |
4.72 |
10.54 |
1.43 |
4.29 |
6.58 |
6.34 |
5.28 |
1.648 |
The everyone else was comprised mostly of John Ely and Carlos Monasterios, who made 31 of the 40 starts from the bottom of the rotation crew. Both had their moments, Ely more than Monk, but none inspired confidence to head into 2011 with any kind of confidence to pitch a full season. It's hard not to want to improve on a 6.34 ERA and 5.28 FIP in just 4.72 innings per start.
With Garland, you pretty much know what you are going to get. He has made 32 or 33 starts in nine straight seasons, and has pitched between 191 2/3 and 221 innings in those nine years. He'll get you a FIP somewhere in the mid-fours, but Garland's strength is eating innings. Garland pitched six innings or more in 24 of 33 starts with San Diego last season (the fifth starters combined to go six innings in just 11 of 40 starts), and now the Dodger rotation has five, count 'em five, starters who average at least six innings per start. Call me crazy, but I'm actually excited about this rotation.
Speaking of offense, check this out. The current Dodgers five-man rotation combined for 103 quality starts (in 157 starts) last year, which would have tied for the major league lead. The winning percentage in 2010 across MLB when pitchers threw a quality start was .667. However, the Dodgers were 54-38 (.587), including just 23-24 after the All-Star break when their starters threw a quality start.
Now (again), about that offense...
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Silverwidow
Just so you know, your comment earlier this morning about Garland spurred me to start to write a post about the Dodgers’ 5th starters last year, so when the news broke of the actual signing, it fit nicely in here.
So, thanks. :)
Very cool.
Garland is an EXCELLENT 5th starter. I just didn’t want him as Ned’s first choice after Kershaw/Bills.
by silverwidow on Nov 26, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. Now Kemp and Dre have to get their heads out of their asses and 2011 might not drive Humma to buy stock in gin manufacturers.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Oh please, like I need an excuse to buy gin. :-)
+1 to the votes who like signing garland and for “now about that offense.”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 26, 2010 2:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Soap Bubble is no more
The greatest Nicaraguan eephus pitch specialist in Dodger history has to go play somewhere else in 2011.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions
although i like the garland as 5 thing
the no eephus thing makes me sad
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Just wait until you see Garland’s fastball :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
i have seen it
I just like seeing big leaguers fail at a pitch the speed my daughter can throw
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
i hope he hooks on somewhere
in the AL
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
hah hah
I had mixed feelings about bringing Padilla back. I just always worry about him imploding either on the mound or off the field. Garland doesn’t have the same stuff but he’s more reliable.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The one year deal with a vesting option sounds right. Perfectly reasonable to me (again, without knowing the dollars yet).
I'm a fan of this
Garland as 5th starter, yay. Garland as 3rd starter would’ve been a boo. But this seems a very reasonable deal.
As you said, “Now about that offense…”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Maybe Ned
wanted the rotation set before going to the winter meetings in search of a bat.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions
Just want to brag
That many times earlier this season, I was on record saying the Dodgers would sign three starting pitchers this offseason. Where can I get my trophy? :)
More likely that a LF is signed than signing a true CF and moving everyone?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I suppose, but who are the FA CF in our price range?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
it's in the mail
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not going
you bring it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
this is a really good rotation
Awesome
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
by nolander on Nov 26, 2010 12:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
BTW
I read something yesterday about Russell Martin. His agent said there was no damage to his labrum at all.
“[The misstep] resulted in a hairline fracture in his hip, and there was absolutely no damage, tear or injury to his labrum,” said Colleran. “In his last medical visit on November 4th, his medical reports confirmed that the fracture was healing quickly, there were no complications to the healing since the injury, no surgery was ever performed or needed, and again, there is, and never was, any damage sustained to his labrum whatsoever.”
Doesn’t this mean he could be fully healthy again? I don’t know how this would affect the Dodgers decision on him, but this is just the first time I’ve heard i was just a fracture and not a labrum tear.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions
I'm sure
they’ve been keeping up on his rehab. He is still technically their player.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
From the Dodgers press release
Each member of the club’s starting rotation posted an ERA under 3.65, pitched more than 190.0 innings and made 30 or more starts last season.
"We’re very pleased to have Jon join this group and give us five very strong starters going into Spring Training," said Colletti. "We saw what Jon was capable of down the stretch in 2009 and again last year within our division. Year after year, he takes the ball 30-plus times and gives his team a chance to win every time out."
This signing is huge....
tremendous impact on our bully……………..
With Kuroda,Garlad and Lilly eating innings..our Bullpen already got better..
we have top 5 Sp rotation in NL right now on paper..
if we get Bully back to 2009 shape we will have top 3 ERA in NL next yr..
Now get a slugger and DFa a few guys.. (ie theriot, sherrill)
nice contract by ned
if year 2 is also 5, vesting with 190 innings in 2011, I really like it @ 2/10
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
There are performance incentives as well, but if Garland gets up to $8m or so by pitching that many innings I’d gladly pay him.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
holy shit
5 mil? YES PLX
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
nice
I’m trying to convince myself it wouldn’t be terrible to buy a macbook pro…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Black Friday deal
one-upsmanship?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
600 Dollars.. I wanted that super duper 55’ VIzio with the 240hz rf and all the coolness that comes with it but 1500 dollars was a bit steep.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
The Bravia is 120 Hz anyway, right?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
i find
120hz disconcerting
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
by nolander on Nov 26, 2010 1:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I only like it for 24fps blu-ray.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
60
I really wanted to get a phillips that had 120hz, it was the same size and cheaper but Wal Mart was being a bunch of fuckers and I couldnt find it.
Right now Im using a 73inch sony and its cool but playing CODblack ops can get a little hard.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
i find this shocking
Wal Mart was being a bunch of fuckers
they have always been so knowledgeable and helpful whenever help requested
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
That combined with the all so fresh attitudes of the fine ppl of the Antelope Valley made for a great mourning. Oh and the fact that it was 17 degrees out is cool as well.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
oh computer
stop being virus’d so I can research how to write a white paper…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
More from Dylan H
Garland deal with Dodgers: $5MM plus incentives in 2011; vesting option for 2012 worth $8MM.
Makes more sense. I was wondering how Garland managed to not get a raise as the third best pitcher on the market.
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
and I get ugatz
something is definitely messed up
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
It seems to me...
that we got a steal on this one. Given how he pitched for the Padres, and the market for starting pitchers, Garland probably could’ve guaranteed himself a bigger/longer contract if he held out. I’m definitely happy about the starting rotation. But, like everyone else said, how about that offense…
Anyone think the Dodgers have a chance at getting a slugging 1st baseman (like Prince or A. Gonz) at the deadline this year? I know it seems very un-Colletti, but so does the Manny deal in hindsight…
Soriano
is going to be a closer somewhere for closer money. My guess is the Angels. I’d like to sign a good lefty like Downs. Even if Elbert makes the team as a LOOGY, we still need a few more lefty’s in the Pen other than Kuo since Sherrill is more than likely gone. Downs is good against both so I think he’d be a good signing. But he is a Type A…….
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuroda, Lilly, Garland combined for 157 starts in 2010; They had 103 quality starts and went 6+ innings 118 times
In 2010
White Sox (124), Phillies (120), and Oakland (118) matched or beat that 6-inning number, and only Oakland matched the quality start total (103).
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
FYI
In 2010, teams went 1,721-861 when their pitcher had a quality start, a 66.7% winning percentage.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
The 2010 Dodgers, however, went 54-38 when they got a quality start (58.7%), including 23-24 (48.9%) after the ASB!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
so if we go league average
after the asb we get 10 more wins and….
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
More details
Ramona Shelburne of ESPN LA says the 2010 incentives are worth up to $3m, so Garland could be looking at $8m + $8m.
Welcome back, Judy!
I am really stoked about a 2011 starting 5 of Kershaw, Bills, Kuroda, Lilly and now Garland. Happy Thanksgiving Weekend, TBLA’ers!
Taylor Morgan: "My abortion was botched!"
Teemu Selanne: "Wow. That sounds awesome."
by DodgerBlueBalls on Nov 26, 2010 1:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Ok
I have been talked into accepting this signing. I would have rather had shitty fifth starter and threw all remaining money at Dunn still.
That’s why God made Scott Ericksons, Ramon Ortizes, and Jeff Weavers.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
People Asking/Expecting Offense Upgrades After What Has Been Done For The Rotation...
…are some combination of in denial and just plain greedy. Loney is our first baseman and that is not changing, Blake is our third baseman and that is not changing, and Colletti already said LF will be some combination of Gibbons/Paul/Hoffmann. The starting rotation has been made as good as it is BECAUSE we are not upgrading the hitting.
Loney and Blake will most likely be back
but Ned only said LF COULD be a combination of those guys. It’s not a certainty.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Canuck, I respect the hell out of you, but you are crazy if you take Ned’s comments about LF at face value.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Ned was going to grab Huff for LF. So he’s probably still looking for someone similiar (i.e. not Dunn).
Some reports listing the Huff suitors
claimed it wasn’t LA bidding on him, so who knows.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Is Pat the Bat
tied up in SF? I could see Ned going after him.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
That's my prediction then
He’ll be cheap. He’s a local boy. He hits home runs. He’s got the veteran gaminess Ned loves to smell.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Wouldn't be a shocker
I hope he hits like he did for SF (in the regular season at least)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
I'll be okay with this...
if they make a stab at someone by the trading deadline. To be honest, there really isn’t anyone on the market right now that fits the team’s offensive needs (that’s also in their price range). Makes more sense to wait until july and try for a bit bat in the outfield or at 1b.
They will end up signing someone to take both spots anyway IMO, so that’s a wash.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
True,
But the expectations were set pretty low…
If I had to guess, I would say not much because we wouldn’t be deferring so much on Lilly and Kuroda’s contracts if there was still plenty to spend.
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Alabama better not complete this choke job.
I want my dream national title game with non-BCS teams
Colletti Sounded Quite Definitive When He Said What He Did About LF.
And there was no “could.” He said “will.” That is what I recall anyway. If anyone can find the original quote, please do. Colletti wouldn’t have said what he did unless he wanted to dash people’s hopes early. And the Huff story by Rosenthal has already been denied by some other journalist. Also, when Colletti said payroll was going up, wasn’t it obvious it would be going up to about what Eric has it at now, $106 million or so? If anything more is added, I expect it to be another reliever, maybe another bench guy, but not a starting 1B, 3B, or LF.
Can still free up 5 million or so by replacing Russ and Theriot. But I would be shocked if we got someone who would make more impact than Johnny Damon.
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
November 4th
“[The search] continues,” Colletti said. “It might be a combination of Xavier Paul and [Trent] Oeltjen. Jay Gibbons can get some time there. Russ Mitchell could get time there. As of right now, it is what it is, but we have a long winter ahead of us.”
Plus
from the LAT:
“We’ll mix and match for a while if we don’t find anyone this winter,” General Manager Ned Colletti said.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
That Was An Earlier Quote. He Made A Later One Without Oeltjen.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 26, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
It was an interview with Jim Bowden last week
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/colletti-on-martin-bullpen-payroll-crawford.html
Colletti “indirectly made it clear” that the Dodgers aren’t pursuing Carl Crawford or Cliff Lee. Left field is only the team’s fourth priority behind the bullpen, a fifth starter and settling on a catcher. Colletti said the team’s current left field options (Jay Gibbons, Jamie Hoffmann and Xavier Paul) will be given a chance to win the job.
I don’t believe him.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
There You Go. Your Case Comes Down To Saying Colletti Is Lying.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 26, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
You know who else will be given a chance to win the job?
The outfielder we sign this winter.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
From the current Garland press conference call
Colletti priorities: I think we need another bat, another relief pitcher and need to figure out the catching position.
FWIW
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Ambiguous: I Did Say We Might Add Another Bench Player
People are demanding a “big bat,” and I wonder if Colletti would call a starter “another bat.” I think Colletti wants a better RHH than Hoffmann to platoon with Gibbons.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 26, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think he would
you don’t really use that verbage to describe a bench player. If Ned said, “the bench needs shoreing up.” then yes. But saying, “We need another bat.” Why wouldn’t he mean a middle of the order one?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
A Starting LF Better Than Our Existing Options...
…is by definition a big bat, a middle of the order guy. “Another bat” just sounds like an afterthought. I can see Reed Johnson being re-signed, frankly.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 26, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
but like I said
I don’t think any GM would classify a bench player as “another bat”.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
and
we agree about that :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
"Given a chance"
doesn’t necessarily equal no more signings. I also don’t trust Jim Bowden to give me the most accurate synopsis of a conversation.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ned also addressed
priority two (according to Bowden) before priority one.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Also, Isn't It ALWAYS Colletti's Way To Go Into the Season With A Big Hole Somewhere On The Roster...
…and then trade the farm at the deadline? Of course it is.
I know this is just snark, but almost every deadline trade Colletti has made was done because of injuries.
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
We Went Into 2010 With No Real 5th Starter And Colletti Said All Along...
…that he would see what could be done to remedy that with a mid-season trade.
by CanuckDodger on Nov 26, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Once isn't ALWAYS(your caps not mine :-p)
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I always think Oeltjen is that ex San Berdoo
sportswriter who hates Kemp with a passion.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Paul Oberjuege
I don’t forget that name.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
But I did drop the second "r" in
Oberjuerge. Oops.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
More like uber-jerky amirite
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 26, 2010 3:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
green
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Word to the wise
On the iPhone, “amirite” autocorrects to “emirate”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 26, 2010 3:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
when ur rite
ur rite
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
McElroy
looks hurt
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 2:53 PM PST reply actions
no pressure at all on the backup
Just a 4th and forever to pick up on your first play!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
nah
punting
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
a shitty one
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
The whole state of Alabama is dead to me
The best outcome would be for the earth to open up and swallow both teams.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
With advance notice to LBB so he can move his family to safety, of course.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
So that’s what that noise is? I thought it was fireworks.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 26, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
well, this offseason has certainly exceeded expectations
I’d rather have Padilla over Garland, as Padilla is more “electric”. But hey- you could do a lot worse than Jon Garland as your #5 starter. Ned’s done a good with all this lately, and I’d go as far as to say the Dodgers very well could have the 3rd best starting pitching in the NL, edged only by the teams we despise so much.
As for the offense, yeah it’s a bit troublesome, but perhaps not as much as some think. With a potentially recovered DeJesus at 2nd, we’re basically just a LF, 3rd baseman and some good hypnosis for Kemp, Eithier and Loney away from being a real force! Either way, I’m actually kind of looking forward to the 2011 season now.
I'm excited about this rotation as well.
We have an extremely solid 1-5, with an ace who just continues to get better and better every year. Garland is a decent #3 or #4 for most teams and the fact that we got him for the fifth spot speaks volumes about the depth of the 2011 rotation.
I’m also pleasantly surprised at the money Colletti is handing out so far this offseason. I just hope that there’s still enough in the coffers for that big bat we so desperately need. Otherwise this may be a repeat of 2003. But with the rotation we have, and if we can somehow get some offense, then there’s no reason why we can’t wrest that trophy away from the fucking Gnats.
Nothing is ever easy.
Can Dodgers affor 115m
If they can afford 115, would I would love to see the Dodgers do,the following: non tender Martin, but sign him to two years at 6m-3mill each. Let the riot go and save another 3.75 million. Total savings roughly 6m.
Dodgers then go after both Beltre and Berkman. Guess is Beltre is at 15 million per year, probably way too much and wants too many years, but if we are sitting up to go for it this year and next-you need to have 1 more serious bat. Blake becomes supper utility player for LF, 1b, 3b and yes 2b. Obviously the riot is gone so you save another 3.75, and you give DeJesus a chance.
If you can only offer 5-8million, you bring in Berkman. Switch hitter, he is willing to play LF, he subs for Loney at 1b. The other moves remain the same. If Berkman sucks 5million isn’t a terrible gamble. Under my scenario you have only added about 2-3 million per in payroll.
Blake cannot play 2nd.
I vividly remember the horrid attempt he made at turning a double play during one of those extreme shifts where the 2nd baseman is a shallow RFer and the Third Baseman plays second.
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 26, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Bllake and 2nd
The comment about 2nd for Blake would only be in an emergency.
Alabama’s ball. 46 seconds left from the 19
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Auburn only beat South Carolina by 8 this year. I wouldn’t consider it a massive upset for the Gamecocks to win next week.
And Gary Danielson must die.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
South Carolina is better than I thought..
They did beat Alabama and destroyed Florida on the road.
Maybe Auburn will let up after an emotional win this week.
From the AP game story (hat tip to Stewart Mandel), Alabama had a 314-2 advantage in yardage at one point in the first half.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 26, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Local news just said it was the biggest comeback in school history.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Nov 26, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
this is a pretty damn good rotation now
Kershaw
Bills
Kuroda
Lilly
Garland
its great to have a definite number 5 starter.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
yeah
i’m guessing after the trials of last season from that spot, Ned wanted it set in stone.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
So if ASU can hang 48 on UCLA...
And there’s still a ways to go, how many points does USC score next week? I would estimate USC puts up at least 45.
Question
it’s my understanding that Trey Hillman can speak Japanese. Could he go out with Honeycutt to talk to Kuroda during a mound visit? Or is only one coach allowed out there?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 3:52 PM PST reply actions
Kuroda is fluent in baseball English. That’s all you need. He probably understands a lot more than he can speak.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
i didn't assume it was
i was just curious if he was allowed.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
You can only send one coach at a time. And you can’t send out an interpreter unless it’s checking on an injury.
In Japan, interpreters are allowed on the field all the time. I’ve seen arguments with umpires done via interpreters. It’s pretty funny.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
hehe, thanks Bob
that does sound pretty funny.
“Um…you don’t wanna know what he just said about your mother.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
2012 rotation
Kershaw
Billingsley
Lilly
Garland
???
We have basically opened up a spot for a hot shot prospect the following year. But let’s not worry about that now. :)
heh
i was gonna say Rubby
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I’d really like Rubby in the 2012 rotation, but I fear that the Dodgers will never just open a spot up for a rookie like that.
I’d suspect they’ll continue to renew Kuroda for 1 year at a time unless he totally implodes this year.
They have to like the guy to give him 12 mils.
If you look at what Kuroda and Lilly got….Garland is really undervalued.
am i a buzzkill?
i don’t hate garland as a 5th starter. and i’m not a pessimist by nature…. but some of garland’s peripherals are alarming: babip last year was a very low .267, his K/BB ratio was a pedestrian 136/87, as was his FIP (4.41)… a career high LOB%, 75.9, suggests he was helped by the padres best-in-baseball bullpen….
i’m hopeful that my fears are pure wuss… and i won’t bash ned for garland (there’s too much other stuff at this point… plus it’s a holiday goddamit)… but i won’t be shocked if, next year, ely pitches as well as garland.
i think considering he's the 5th starter
his periphals probably aren’t a huge cause for alarm.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
He has three
And one of them is a plus-plus changeup.
;)
But yeah, he’s not that great.
by Taylor Maricle on Nov 26, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
He's only the 5th starter, nothing more
He’s had at least 32 starts in each of the last seven seasons, and has pitched 200+ innings in all but one of them. He’s a horse, and most teams would love to have someone like him at the back end of their rotations, which is typically a black hole.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Nov 26, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
I love this as much as the next guy
but in August, when the unpredictable has happened, and we lose a couple of these guys to injuries or whatever, remember how happy you are today. If the season goes to shit, i don’t want to hear any of this “Ned should have done XXXX”. The team looks promising right now, and if it goes down the shitter it’s not his fault.
None of this hindsight is 20/20 bullshit. Moves are made and needs are filled based on best available options at the time they are made, and the result of those moves is largely a crapshoot.
Be happy today, be happy tomorrow, if it doesn’t work out as intended, give it the old [Clink] and ‘awe shucks’ and move on.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
What if the season goes to shit because the team has no offense?
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Then we can blame Ned
for not making a move when it is so obviously needed.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Nov 26, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
They did even worse than that
They only won 71 games in 2005. ;)
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Nov 26, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
This team is like a lock to win at least 75 games and less than 92 games.
Pecota/Baseball Prospectus/ shoudl have some very accurate predictions bc there’s very little variability amongst the players coming back.
This 2011 Dodger team is full of consistant veterans.
Team consistent veteran won the world series because everyone over performed.
by regfairfield on Nov 26, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
For Keith C.
http://gawker.com/5698696/the-7-best-deep+fried-turkey-disaster-videos
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Solid pickup
I think this makes the Dodger rotation definitely top 5 in the N.L., at least…in fact, after Philly and San Fran, I can’t really think of another starting five that come close to having the same overall strength 1-5. I’ll miss the soap bubble as much as the next fan, and Padilla was pretty damn good when he was healthy, but this rotation gives me hope going into 2011. As so many people have pointed out, though, the problem with this team was never pitching, it was timely hitting. I’m not ready to give up on either Loney or Martin, but Theriot and Sherrill can rot in the black holes they came from. I’d love a RH power hitter to platoon with XPaul in left field, but those seem in short supply. Uggla was a dream pickup of mine last year (I was hoping Neddie could work some magic and sucker Loria out of Dan and JJ, but no such luck), but O-Dog would be awesome at 2B again; never liked the way he was disrespected when he left.
What a difference a year makes.
A year ago, the only major signing for pitching was Padilla. And the general refrain was that the Dodgers needed to sign an ace, and that it was a major weakness.
At least this year, the baseball media thinks the Dodgers rotation is solid to good.
But We Still Have No ACE!
At least according to the commenter at Dilbeck’s column who says we have a rotation of #3 starters.
Remember Cliff Lee is unbeatable. He would never lose to an NL West team in a big situation.
by Bob Timmermann on Nov 26, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Cliff Lee lost twice to the Giants in the WS
Kershaw shut them out in September.
I’ll take Kershaw. :)
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Nov 26, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
I believe you missed the sarcasm in BT's above comment
;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Kershaw – #1
Lilly – #4
Kuroda – #3
Billingsley – #3
Garland – #5
Thats how I’d rate the Dodger starters in numbers..
I think to get the label of “#1 starter”….a starter has to have a season in which they finish in the top 3 of CY Young voting…That seems to go far.
I think the potential is there still for him to be a #1, but you’re probably right. Still, #2 is pretty good.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Nov 26, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
And most teams have what?
a 2, a 3, and a couple 4s with a 6 in there to boot?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Dont the Dodgers need to have better starters than these teams:
Phillies (Oswalt, Halladay, Hamels)
Giants (Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner)
Cardinals (Carpenter, Wainwright, Garcia)
Its not like we are completely over matched by those rotations
nor where starters of that quality available.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Hah yeah look how well philly’s 3 #1 starters did in the nlcs. 1 win, 3 losses.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 26, 2010 6:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
You don’t see this very often: Jon Garland walked away from a bigger contract option with the Padres to take a lot less from the Dodgers.
Pure chaos scenario:
Nevada beats Boise State.
Oregon loses tonight.
Auburn loses to South Carolina in SEC Title game
Then it’d be TCU vs a whole bunch of teams that could make a claim…
is it because he doesn’t look like he came out of a childhood nightmare?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Quite possibly
A 5th starter that doesn’t scare me.. I could get used to this. (Padilla, Haeger, Ely were all terrifying in their own unique ways).
Exellent....
Ely might have been scary
but he was also hot. ;)
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
but was he
real doll hot?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
I was kinda hoping
that the next move would be for some offense but you can’t really argue with getting Garland to round out the rotation. Ned has moved quickly to basically gobble up the best of the second tier of FA pitchers in Lilly, Kuroda, and Garland. I think there is at least a couiple of moves that will be made to help improve the offense. Can’t wait to see what they are.
it looks like
he can now focus on that.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Ahem
If anyone comes in Gabe’s and is like, “No one is here!” simply look for the yellow scarf.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 7:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Have fun you guys. Be there in spirit!
Or maybe I’ll just be here, drinking spirits.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
How are you feeling, underdog?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Better enough to eat some pumpkin pie tonight
Hooray!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Well the World Champs opened the season with Todd Wellemeyer in their 5th spot. The value of Jon Garland is well not having to do that.
this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Garland in the 5th spot at least offers a degree of certainty which should allow Ned to plan the rest of the roster better, specifically the bullpen. Now there is less need to carry that spot starter in the pen, though there will likely still be someeone capable of going multiple innings.
Monk or Eveland will get the longman/spot starter role.
I think the bullpen will be:
Kuo
Broxton
Jansen
Belisario
Eveland or Monk
Elbert or Veteran Loogy
Monk or Eveland will get the longman/spot starter role.
Yeah, in ABQ
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Agreed
Monasterios will be starting every fifth day, in ABQ.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Lakers lose tonight due to the NBA equivalent of babip
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 26, 2010 8:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions
heh
seriously. We’ll get’em next tiime.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 26, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
or some polygamist's
inability to start and stop the 24 second clock properly
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Nov 26, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Maddz's
Quote of the hour, “I wish lvdown was here.”
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 8:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
I did say that, yes.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 8:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ivdown is sympathy singing in the next room
Please make sure he can come next time!!! I can’t take the off-key non-harmony.
I told my dad to say this
and I meant it!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Mintxcore might have the best karaoke turn so far
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 9:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Wsh I was there, but the free babysitting was in Marin. Fun date tonight with Bride, tho.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 26, 2010 10:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
thank you thank you
didnt feel like my final performance was up to snuff. bhsportsguy and dave young i think were the two strongest stars of the night
MLB TradeRumors looks at the Dodgers tonight
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/whats-next-for-the-dodgers.html
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Late to the party
Just read that story and the names thrown out make no sense. Ankiel is another lefty bat, Kearns used to be a good defender, but think he spent part of the last year in the minors. I still think Berkman would be a great choice. He said he is willing to play outfield……I think I will root for Jamie Hoffman
by wineracquet on Nov 26, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
A little surprised at the signing
Was sure that Ned would let the #5 starter be decided in Spring Training. This is probably the right move, considering that there are so many issues on offense that they can’t all fill all the holes or replace all the duds. The pitching needed to be that much better.
I know Ned said the payroll would be up, but it already is up a bit, and left field and catcher haven’t really been addressed. I would guess, as some suggested earlier: non-tender Sherrill and Martin and use that money to sign a small deal with Barajas and a Pat Burrell-type.
The 2011 plan seems pretty clear: count on an excellent starting rotation the entire year instead of just the last two months and hope Kemp and Ethier return to 2009 levels (or hopefully exceed them) to provide just enough offense.
I really look forward to rooting for the 2009 Giants.
Big mistake from Nevada..
Nevada no timeouts left and the time has went all the way down to 21 seconds
Boise State wins 34-31..
Incredible game.
Titus Young may have just gotten Boise State into the national title game if Auburn or Oregon lose.
Incredible catch.
Joey Joe is wrong on 3 straight posts…
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
C’mon…did you really think he’d miss a 26 yarder?
Although this game deserves to go to OT and not be decided on a fluke.
I try to never take anything for granted. I do like to knock on wood, after all.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I really think he made the kick.
If they had a video right above the upright…it looked like it might have gotten thru.
I thought it was good, too. I’m surprised they didn’t take a second look and just took it for granted that it was no good.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Check that...he misses a 26yarder right down the middle
Although it looked like he made it on replay
Bro, are you talking to yourself?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 10:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Dear Silverwidow
I wish you were here and a hot chick so I could make out with you. Or a highly ranked prospect. Or just have one really good skill. Or that I was Strasberg so you would make out with me. Don’t worry, I stay above the clothes.
/college
/nieces
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 10:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
the original comment
was co-authored by Michael White
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Holy shit he missed it!!!
Free football…
"Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake" -Johan Cruijff
We wish he was here too!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 10:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's so awesoms! I
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Whoops
I am there the next time, but it’s gonna be so long till you’re here again :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’m back in mid December? lol
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Karaoke night part 2??
Also I was drunk last night, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Boise State's BCS dreams
In 3…2…1…
"Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake" -Johan Cruijff
by angelofdeath on Nov 26, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM!
"Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake" -Johan Cruijff
by angelofdeath on Nov 26, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Stanford
Now has a shot at a BCS bowl
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 10:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
As Adrian said
To Rocky… Arkansas ….Win!
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 10:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
In terms of money...the payout between the Rose Bowl or BCS Champ game..
vs the bowl game Boise State will now get is in the millions…
Those missed FGs cost the university lots of money.
Kyle Brotzman
Is the loneliest man in Reno tonight
"Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake" -Johan Cruijff
Boise State's kicker..
Had been 13 of 16 on FGs this year.
12/13 on kicks inside 50 yards.
He’s a good kicker that just missed two straight 20 something yarders…
Unbelievable.
I really feel bad for their kicker..
To blow it once is bad…but twice in a row is just wow.
The kid is a senior also.
If TCU loses tomorrow
The non-BCS conferences will cease to exist
"Before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake" -Johan Cruijff
if TCU
Loses tomorrow, they should have a one year moratorium on non-AQ teams being eligible for BCS bowl games.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 11:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
TCU is a 30 point favorite over a 1-10 team...they arent losing
Nevada was a ranked team.
They are a pretty good team, so its not a huge upset that Boise lost.
Freaking A! Me and me and my friend are belting out You've Lose That Lovin Feelin right now a bit drunk and recording it to put on youtube
Funny thing is I wouldnt be drinking if i were there tonight, haha. I really wish I were there tonight :( I hope you guys are having a shit load of fun. It was cool to see Maddz wish i was there too :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
what happens
At Gabes stays at Gabes.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 11:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Too much fun. We love LA
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Nov 26, 2010 11:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Dave has them. Eric threatened to slap Nolander in the face. But we are listening to Creed, so it’s understandable. I don’t want to move. :(
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
the
Crowd was gleeful because of the Jon Garland signing.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 26, 2010 11:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Eric, the improv Giants comments during Through With You were fantastic
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Really?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
What a great night
Thanks everyone who made it a great night. Had a great time singing and having fun making fun of Creed, etc.
The karaoke mistress ended, without request or prompting, Don’t Stop Believin. Props to Maddz, reg, and Dave for closing the place down.
Also, fuck the Giants.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 1:17 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Chef Art told me to come back and offered me free fries.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
It’s because he wanted to make art with you.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 1:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
from yelp
Beers are 3.50 which is pretty cheap by LA standards. I was really hungry and went to the kitchen area where the Awesome and Nice Chef asked me what I felt like eating. I asked what he recommended and he said “the pizza is the shit” so I took his word for it.
That sounds about right
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
That pizza was ridiculously great, and this wasn’t just the beer talking.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t some frozen concoction either. Chef Art actually brought out some dough to put on his little scale and made it from scratch.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
This is very true--from Eric
[M]any times earlier this season, I was on record saying the Dodgers would sign three starting pitchers this offseason.
Yeah, I saw your fan post. I always forget about the contract of this generation’s Kirk Reuter.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
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