A Look At Dodgers Starting Rotations
With the Jon Garland signing, the Dodgers have attempted to add a little more certainty to their starting rotation. They have five established starters, who will make somewhere between $26-30 million in 2011, rather than heading into spring with various question marks battling for the fifth spot. It's better to have John Ely and Carlos Monasterios as your sixth and seventh options than as your fifth, or even fourth starters, which was the case at times last year.
The Dodgers' 2011 rotation of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda, Ted Lilly, and Garland combined to make 157 starts in 2010, all starting at least 30 games. It's almost impossible to expect them to start that many games in 2011, just because things never seems to work out exactly as planned. That said, the Dodgers do have their best starting rotation from top to bottom in recent memory.
I looked back at the Dodger pitching staffs of the 2000s, to see how many starts they got from their top five starters. Keep in mind that this is hindsight, in that I looked at the top five pitchers ranked by number of starts they made during the season rather than the opening five to start the season (Ely had the fourth-most starts for the 2010 Dodgers, for instance, despite being well below the radar in March). Let's just hope someone other than the current starting five doesn't make this list for 2011:
| Dodgers Top 5 Starters 2000-2010 | ||
| Year | Starts | Pitchers |
| 2010 | 128 | Kershaw (32), Kuroda (31), Billingsley (31), Ely (18), Padilla (16) |
| 2009 | 126 | Wolf (34), Billingsley (32), Kershaw (30), Kuroda (20), Stults (10) |
| 2008 | 135 | Lowe (34), Billingsley (32), Kuroda (31), Kershaw (21), Penny (17) |
| 2007 | 118 | Penny (33), Lowe (32), Billingsley (20), Wolf (18), Hendrickson/Tomko (15) |
| 2006 | 113 | Lowe (34), Penny (33), Billingsley (16), Sele (15), Tomko (15) |
| 2005 | 136 | Lowe (35), Weaver (34), Penny (29), Houlton (19), O.Perez (19) |
| 2004 | 138 | Weaver (34), O.Perez (31), Ishii (31), Lima (24), Nomo (18) |
| 2003 | 134 | Nomo (33), Brown (32), O.Perez (30), Ishii (27), Alvarez/Ashby (12) |
| 2002 | 147 | Nomo (34), O.Perez (32), Ashby (30), Ishii (28), Daal (23) |
| 2001 | 122 | Park (35), Gagne (24), Adams (22), Prokopec (22), Brown (19) |
| 2000 | 140 | Park (34), Brown (33), Dreifort (32), C.Perez (22), Gagne (19) |
That is 28 times a Dodger has made 30 starts in the last 11 years, about two and a half per year, never more than three pitchers in one season. The Dodgers have had five pitchers each start 30 games in a season just twice in their 127-year franchise history (1977 and 1993), and they have only had four pitchers start 30 games eight other times:
| Dodgers With At Least Four Pitchers With 30 Starts |
||
| Year | Starters | Pitchers |
| 1993 | 5 | Astacio, Candiotti, Gross, Hershiser, Martinez |
| 1977 | 5 | Hooton, John, Rau, Rhoden, Sutton |
| 1991 | 4 | Belcher, Martinez, Morgan, Ojeda |
| 1978 | 4 | Hooton, John, Rau, Sutton |
| 1976 | 4 | Hooton, John, Rau, Sutton |
| 1975 | 4 | Hooton, Messersmith, Rau, Sutton |
| 1973 | 4 | John, Messersmith, Osteen, Sutton |
| 1971 | 4 | Downing, Osteen, Singer, Sutton |
| 1966 | 4 | Drysdale, Koufax, Osteen, Sutton |
| 1899 | 4 | Dunn, Hughes, Kennedy, McJames |
Those 10 Dodgers teams combined for a .578 winning percentage, which translates into just over 93 wins for a 162-game season. Will Garland, who went to Kennedy High in Granada Hills, channel the spirit of Brickyard Kennedy, one of the four main starters for the 1899 Dodgers squad? Time will tell.
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Even though I like the potential of a youngster in the rotation, I’ll admit Ely and Monk are not hard to push aside. After them, we have almost nobody who could step into a spot starter role if the need arises. In fact, could someone even name our next most likely to ascend this year?
It's still early
But I think right now the #8 starter is Dana Eveland.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 10:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
and i'm sure
that colletti will sign a couple non-roster invitees that will serve as long relief/backup backup starters
by court168627 on Nov 27, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
hopefully...
this will take a lot of pressure off of the bullpen too
this is my hope. Of course, Troncoso forgetting how to pitch last season didn’t help the bullpen woes…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
The offense was bad, but...........
Going from One of the best Bullpens to less than mediocre bullpen didn’t help the offense much either.
I would say the bullpen has absolutely nothing to do with the offense.
by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
it makes it really really difficult for the offense if the bullpen blows leads, though.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
The offense was just bad. They weren’t situationally bad. It’s not like they were scoring 5+ runs per game and watching the bullpen blow leads. Down the stretch they averaged something like 3 runs per game and that’s completely independent of what the pitchers do.
I get the cause and effect by having Ely/Monk as starters and having a shitty bullpen (as they were overworked) but I don’t get how the hitters can claim any such correlation.
by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Last year, Dodger starters pitched 952 2/3 innings last year, which was 11th in the NL.
The current 5 for 2011 combined for 157 starts and 986 innings in 2010. Add another 20 innings or so for those other five starts, and that gets them over 1000 innings. That 1,000-inning mark was reached last year in the NL by only the Phillies (1,035) and Giants (1,000).
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Innings pitched by Dodgers starters
2010: 952 2/3 (11th in NL)
2009: 920 1/3 (11th in NL)
2008: 927 2/3 (8th in NL)
2007: 917 (12th in NL)
2006: 922 2/3 (12th in NL)
2005: 955 1/3 (11th in NL)
2004: 935 1/3 (8th in NL)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I'm slowly working my body
back to being a body again. Summersaults are bad ideas on concrete floors
Very safe. Assuming everyone is healthy of course.
by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Roll call from last night
Me
Mike
Dave
Josie
Maddz
BHSportsGuy
Grimjack
Tripon
Delias Man
mintxcore
regfairfield
Nolander (cue Gilligan’s Island theme song, “…and his wiiiiiife”)
caesarbook
I feel like I’m missing somebody.
Maddz has a nice recap fan post as well.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
everyone needs to post the songs they did
i did:
Phantom Planet – California
Fast Food Rockers – Fast Food Song
Montgomery Gentry – Hell Yeah
Jamiroquai – Virtual Insanity
Foreigner – Hot Blooded
Remy Zero – Save Me
…did I do a 4th song or did I dream that?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Knight of Cydonia
and that was Josie
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I thought there was some Maroon 5 thing in there.
by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Jamiroquai – Virtual Insanity
Great song.
by silverwidow on Nov 27, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oasis – Live Forever
REM – It’s the End Of The World As We Know It
Roxette – The Look with Josie on backup vocals.
by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, it’s probably my greatest talent.
by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Thompson Twins – Hold Me Now
Regulate – Warren G featuring Nate Dogg
Boyz N Tha Hood – Dynamite Hack
One More Minute – Weird Al
Inside Out – Eve 6
I may have missed a song in there.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Never gonna give you by Rick Astley
What is Love by Haddaway.
I admit I was fucked up by What is Love. No way that song was that slow paced.
Garth brook
Two Pina Coladas. I didn’t even know that song had so many damn words.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Green Day – Longview
Muse – Knights of Cydonia (w/ Maddz)
No Doubt – I’m just a girl
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Wow!
After reading the lists of songs performed (or at least attempted) last night, I have deduced that I am obviously older than anyone singing last night. The last kareoke set I did (a few years ago) was:
American Pie – Don McLean
Your Song – Elton John
A duet of You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ – Righteous Brothers
For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield
I’m going back to gumming my oatmeal now. 23 skidoo!
Your Song – Elton John
Had I gone last night, I very well may have drunk enough gin to perform my parody — this ain’t Weird Al, this is a Humma Kavula original — “Your Thong.”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
oh please
what are some sample lyrics?! That sounds amazing.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
First verse and chorus
It’s a little bit funny
Our underwear
Boxers or briefs, I asked
You didn’t care
But as for you, babe
There was just one choice
When I saw that butt floss
I lost my voice
And now you show everybody that you wear a thong
Peekin’ out above your waistband, somehow it seems wrong
I guess you don’t mind, I guess you don’t mind, that the whole world can see
The fabric you pull down when you gotta pee
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
I can't help myself
Here are the other three verses.
I don’t mean to stare girl, but I think it’s bizarre
Even Sisqo I’m betting would think you’ve gone too far
But It’s your life, it’s your bod, it’s up to you –
Yeah, you wear a thong and it’s showing through
You got really mad, you were taken aback
When I said that no one else would like your crack
You said you would keep wearing that silly thong
“It’s people like me,” you said, “that turn you on.”
So just walk away, yeah, the view is quite fine
To err is human, girl… your butt is divine
Maybe yeah, I was wrong – I think it’s keen
You’ve got the sweetest ass I’ve ever seen
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
So basically, the next TBLA karaoke night will have to take place away from the holidays so you can share this majesty with everyone.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
As long as you don’t mind me literally shaking with stage fright. I would be horribly embarrassed to perform such a thing.
These are the mysteries of Kavula. I talk a big game, but I’m all hat and no cattle.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
The karaoke hostess said
she had never heard “Fast Food Song” before – even I had heard that one! You killed it. I was hoping for a reference to pink mechanically separated chicken though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
the funny thing is
last time i did that song at Gabes (a year or two ago, different host) the host said he never heard it before too hahaha
now, have you heard the campfire version or the euro hyper sexual kids techno version?
IIRC
Dancing With Myself – Billy Idol
Train in Vain – The Clash (sorry Marty, I know that’s way too poppy!)
The First Cut Is The Deepest – Rod Stewart style (I think I said something about it being a song IVDown could sing. Lyrics.)
Picture – Kid Rock/Sheryl Crow (coerced by hostess into singing with tone-deaf chick)
Crystal Blue Persuasion – Tommy James (old enough for iiidown to know)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
:(
Mike texted me saying they weren’t carding around 8, I was already drinking by that point with my friend though so neither of us were going to be able to drive.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Well I got there a little before 9
and they didn’t card at the door, but the guy came up to us a bit after we got there and carded us.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
this one weird guy asked me and Maddz for our IDs with phone numbers. I was just confused since I didn’t think DL’s had phone numbers
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think he was hitting on us.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Hahaha, I think dude was secreting alcohol through his pores at that point.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I did love that he had his own pewter stein. I thought he was a viking for a split second
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Next time
I already have my song picked out. I’m gonna need to practice the hell out of it thou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWSDaAdrBM
for the curious..
this is a video of my karaokexcore band. this video has 2 songs, the first one is a song I wish i could have done last night but they didnt have it (a lil’ Katy Perry) and it segues into my first song from last night, California.
and for the completist
from 5 years ago heres
Can’t Hurry Love → Dem Jeans → California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8R-K5pXh8
“a person in baseball who had been briefed on the matter.
Is that a new way of saying “I’m full of shit”?
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/jeter-said-to-be-asking-for-23-to-24-million-a-year/
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
*"Sir, you’ve gone on record saying that Jeter’s agent is asking for 24 million a year, what is your baseball affiiliation?"
-“Well I sweep the locker rooms, and I make sure every player gets an orange before the game”
*"I see, so when you were briefed…"
-“That pipe right there, it leads right to the Steinbrener’s office, and when I listen to it real close and no one is here, I gets to hear all that goes on up there.”
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like QRANK
because I am awesome at guessing. But apparently not so much while drunk.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
So that’s how I managed to win by so much today…
by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
have you played live QRANK? it’s fun.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
if ivdown was there last night
it would have gone something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTo6kSZlPI
I’m going to claim the woman with giant hair and too much makeup, Maddz can be the one enthralled by IVDown’s vocal stylings
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Cal and Washington
have a quarter to decide which one of them probably grabs the last Pac-10 automatic bowl bid.
well on the plus side….nope, I got nothing. Where the Cal team has ended up is not the Cal team I fell in love with as a Freshman. Though it is the Cal team most everyone else knew
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to believe
that Kevin Riley meant that much to Cal. But it was the defense that gave up a couple of big plays (though they did score the only the TD for Cal today).
Riley, like Longshore before him, is not a pro-ready QB like you want at a major program, but he was the only game ready quarterback
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
aye
Is there any talk of replacing tedford?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
only the first losing season of his career, and he’s the best Cal’s had since the second great war. His job is secure through next year at AT&T park, but if he can’t put together a winner once Cal’s stadium renovations are done, then his job is in jeopardy.
by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Cal won't go bowling
and the rule created to prevent Mack Brown from hurting the Bears again like he did in 2004 is going to benefit Stanford. Brilliant.
sending people unsolicited pictures of his junk?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
(golf swing)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
I actually changed my flight reservation this morning…I’m leaving on Monday. Super impulsive but it feels like the right decision, so…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
or buying his daughter shoes…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
or
jumping for joy at the upset.
Congrats Keith!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Right now
Oregon has clinched a BCS Bowl (Rose or BCS title game).
There will be one representative from the Big East, ACC and Big 12 conference.
The Big Ten will probably send two teams (Wisconsin – Rose, Ohio State – at large)
TCU will more than likely play in the Rose Bowl.
If Auburn wins next week, it will play in the BCS title game, the question is will a 2 loss SEC team be chosen as an at-large team, LSU’s loss could push them below the Top 12 and perhaps Arkansas could move in.
The biggest loser this weekend is the Sugar Bowl because had LSU won today, the Sugar Bowl had the home-state school all set to take since Auburn was going to the title game. Now, its possible that the only other eligible SEC team will be Arkansas and I don’t know if the Sugar Bowl chooses them (though I think they will).
The last at-large bid is probably between Boise State and Stanford, if Stanford can put up some style points today, they might be able to move into 4th in the BCS Standings.
Do they think if Arkansas jumps into the top 12
that they will go to the Sugar Bowl. (Assuming South Carolina doesn’t win next Saturday)
A few Dodgers minor league deals
last week, per Baseball America:
RHP Jon Huber (re-signed), C Keyter Collado (re-signed)
These are of the minor league, non-spring training variety, as far as I know. I believe the only two NRIs so far are Eveland and Villarreal.
LULZ at USC..
Notre Dame up 13-3 at halftime.
I’d be very surprised if Pat Haden doesnt bring in his own guy there.
Lane Kiffin very poor 1st season.
Would be shocked if Kiffin was fired
It doesn’t help (tonight) that Mitch Mustain is fucking terrible.
Or is this another “Boise State wins” comment? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
I bet his Mom is happy he’s playing!
I wonder if she had requested to meet with Kiffin before the season because her shitty QB son wasn’t starting?
USC
could have won a few more games this year but when your most consistent offensive player is your fullback, you have problems.
Off-Topic...
I saw an Andre Ethier fan today (of course he was weared a Ander Ethier jersey) in Paris, into a mall…
He was a tourist who came to Paris for a few weeks, we talked a little bit about Jon Garland, the rotation and our needs… And of course, I asked him if he known about TBLA… :)
Whatever, he enjoyed his time in Paris despite the snow and the very cold temperature overthere (30°F at the afternoon)
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
heh
i’m sure he thought it was very cool he met a Dodger fan in France.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
He was very surprised...
He asked me why I became a Dodger fan instead of a Yankee/Red Sox/White Sox fan (he told that he saw so many guys weared Yankee or Red Sox hat).
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
is there a story behind that?
you may have told it already, but i don’t know :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
I told it during Spring Training :)
1/ Vin Scully
2/ Great History
3/ Great Atmosphere at DS
4/ Lot of Asian Players who did well (My favorite one: The Tornado)
5/ I love L.A.
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
all of those reasons
are awesoke.
The Tornado ruled.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think that this weather could be
attributed to my butchering of milli vanilli last night.
Is Uribe worth 6million to the Dodgers
Based on the above link from Michael Urban, if the Dodgers nned another player to hit about 20 HR’s and it seems that the Dodgers feel DeJesus is a year away, would it make sense to sign Uribe for 6mil probably a two year deal.
I think it is a decent gamble, based on the reality that the Dodgers probably can’t get any of the big names, we need an offensive upgrade at 2nd. Uribe can play all infield positions, so conceivably he could play 3rd in 2012 after Blake leaves. You also take him away from your arch rival. You could also argue that he is only a 2million upgrade over the riot.
Uribe is definitely a player I could see getting signed. Personally he’s not someone I’d be looking at, but it does feel possible. If the price is right it’s hard to see Ned walking away.
by LA Taco on Nov 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
this is great!
I love that they thought Kershaw was like Sunshine. <3 Billz, thanks!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
His voice is cracking. Adorbs!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Cool Russ Mitchell Video
It’s part of the Dodgers Route of Champions Series in which they make stops at 5 Dodger minor league locations. Only AAA is out now, but AA will be coming soon with an interview with Jerry Sands. These are on FSN as well, which is where I watched the entire AAA episode this morning
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 27, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
I believe they were playing this at the bar last night
I think I drunkenly shrieked about it to someone.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
man i wish i could have been there
and seen everything that has been talked about above
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 27, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
“I’M SCARED”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Jamie Gamer
clearly does not give a fuck in this video.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
John Lindsey’s face when he hit the homerun is great. That’s the sort of stuff that makes me tear up — grown men looking so very happy.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
speaking of John Lindsey
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
no shame in that, Vin is amazing.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
oh my god
Vin is a pimp
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
isn't he?
that was cool of him. When he said “i’m honored to meet you.” you just believe it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
The way he gets the woman to stop crying…p-i-m-p.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
yeah, that was great.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
When you can
argue that the Dodgers had the best week of all Southern California sports teams in late November, that is probably not a good thing.
1999
was the last year USC, UCLA and Cal did not play in a bowl game while Stanford did play in one
(Rose Bowl).
Ranking NL Rotations
1. Philadelphia (Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, Kendrick) – Top 3 (esp. Halladay) pushes them to top but Kendrick could move them down at some point.
2. San Francisco (Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Zito) – (Great finish, wonder if post-season innings will affect 2011)
3. Los Angeles (Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Kuroda, Garland) – Great overall depth, if can repeat 2010 numbers, could move up.
4. St. Louis (Carpenter, Wainwright, Garica, Lohse, Westbrook) – Like the Dodgers back two more than Cardinals but it is close.
BCS stuff
Barring any upsets, the standings that come out tomorrow should stand if Oregon and Auburn win out.
Big East – UConn, Pittsburgh or West Virginia will play in the Orange Bowl
ACC – Florida State or Virginia Tech will play in the Orange Bowl
Big-12 – Nebraska or Oklahoma will play in the Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 – Oregon will play in either the Rose Bowl or BCS Title Game
Big-10 – based on the final BCS Rankings, Wisconsin, Ohio State or Michigan State will play in the Rose Bowl (currently Wisconsin is ahead)
SEC – Auburn or South Carolina will represent SEC, if Auburn wins SEC Title, they will play in the BCS Title game, if South Carolina wins, they will play in the Sugar Bowl.
TCU will play in a BCS Bowl game, if Oregon and Auburn win next Saturday, TCU will play in the Rose Bowl, if one of those teams loses, more than likely, TCU would play in the the BCS Title game.
The other more than likely at-large teams include Stanford, Ohio State, Arkansas and Boise State. I would expect all four of these teams will be in the final Top 14 of the BCS standings, thus eligible for an At-large selection.
If Stanford moves into fourth place of BCS rankings tomorrow with Wisconsin, Ohio State and Michigan State behind them, I don’t think anything could happen next weekend to push Stanford out of that spot and thus get an automatic at-large bid. I also think that if a second SEC team is in the Top 14 (barring a South Carolina win next week), the Sugar Bowl will take that team as the replacement for Auburn should Auburn go to the BCS Title game.
Finally, given the choice of Boise State, Ohio State, and Michigan State, the choice will probably be Ohio State.
BCS Bowl Predictions:
BCS Title Game: Oregon v. Auburn
Rose Bowl: TCU v. Wisconsin
Sugar Bowl: Arkansas v. Ohio State
Orange Bowl: Florida State/Va. Tech v. UConn/Pitt/West Virginia
Fiesta Bowl: Nebraska/Oklahoma v. Stanford
The more I look at this, if Oregon would lose next week, they would just switch places with TCU. If Auburn loses next week, I can’t see them falling below number 14 in the Final BCS Standings, so I think Stanford would go to the Rose Bowl (as the Rose Bowl would no longer be obligated to take anyone since TCU would go up to the BCS Title game), the Orange Bowl would probably select Auburn and the Big East Champion would end up in the Fiesta Bowl.
Interesting, Eric
That second chart goes back to the days of the 4 man rotation. A few years ago I looked back to the 60’s and it was amazing. The Dodgers often won the ERA title 3 and more times a decade( in their division) until 2000. Looking at the names one can see why.

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