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A Look At Dodgers Starting Rotations

With the Jon Garland signing, the Dodgers have attempted to add a little more certainty to their starting rotation. They have five established starters, who will make somewhere between $26-30 million in 2011, rather than heading into spring with various question marks battling for the fifth spot. It's better to have John Ely and Carlos Monasterios as your sixth and seventh options than as your fifth, or even fourth starters, which was the case at times last year.

The Dodgers' 2011 rotation of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda, Ted Lilly, and Garland combined to make 157 starts in 2010, all starting at least 30 games. It's almost impossible to expect them to start that many games in 2011, just because things never seems to work out exactly as planned. That said, the Dodgers do have their best starting rotation from top to bottom in recent memory.

I looked back at the Dodger pitching staffs of the 2000s, to see how many starts they got from their top five starters. Keep in mind that this is hindsight, in that I looked at the top five pitchers ranked by number of starts they made during the season rather than the opening five to start the season (Ely had the fourth-most starts for the 2010 Dodgers, for instance, despite being well below the radar in March). Let's just hope someone other than the current starting five doesn't make this list for 2011:

Dodgers Top 5 Starters 2000-2010
Year Starts Pitchers
2010 128 Kershaw (32), Kuroda (31), Billingsley (31), Ely (18), Padilla (16)
2009 126 Wolf (34), Billingsley (32), Kershaw (30), Kuroda (20), Stults (10)
2008 135 Lowe (34), Billingsley (32), Kuroda (31), Kershaw (21), Penny (17)
2007 118 Penny (33), Lowe (32), Billingsley (20), Wolf (18), Hendrickson/Tomko (15)
2006 113 Lowe (34), Penny (33), Billingsley (16), Sele (15), Tomko (15)
2005 136 Lowe (35), Weaver (34), Penny (29), Houlton (19), O.Perez (19)
2004 138 Weaver (34), O.Perez (31), Ishii (31), Lima (24), Nomo (18)
2003 134 Nomo (33), Brown (32), O.Perez (30), Ishii (27), Alvarez/Ashby (12)
2002 147 Nomo (34), O.Perez (32), Ashby (30), Ishii (28), Daal (23)
2001 122 Park (35), Gagne (24), Adams (22), Prokopec (22), Brown (19)
2000 140 Park (34), Brown (33), Dreifort (32), C.Perez (22), Gagne (19)

That is 28 times a Dodger has made 30 starts in the last 11 years, about two and a half per year, never more than three pitchers in one season. The Dodgers have had five pitchers each start 30 games in a season just twice in their 127-year franchise history (1977 and 1993), and they have only had four pitchers start 30 games eight other times:

Dodgers With At Least Four Pitchers With 30 Starts
Year Starters Pitchers
1993 5 Astacio, Candiotti, Gross, Hershiser, Martinez
1977 5 Hooton, John, Rau, Rhoden, Sutton
1991 4 Belcher, Martinez, Morgan, Ojeda
1978 4 Hooton, John, Rau, Sutton
1976 4 Hooton, John, Rau, Sutton
1975 4 Hooton, Messersmith, Rau, Sutton
1973 4 John, Messersmith, Osteen, Sutton
1971 4 Downing, Osteen, Singer, Sutton
1966 4 Drysdale, Koufax, Osteen, Sutton
1899 4 Dunn, Hughes, Kennedy, McJames

Those 10 Dodgers teams combined for a .578 winning percentage, which translates into just over 93 wins for a 162-game season. Will Garland, who went to Kennedy High in Granada Hills, channel the spirit of Brickyard Kennedy, one of the four main starters for the 1899 Dodgers squad? Time will tell.

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Even though I like the potential of a youngster in the rotation, I’ll admit Ely and Monk are not hard to push aside. After them, we have almost nobody who could step into a spot starter role if the need arises. In fact, could someone even name our next most likely to ascend this year?

by kinbote on Nov 27, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

It's still early

But I think right now the #8 starter is Dana Eveland.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 10:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, “trial and error” fifth starter method made more sense when Elbert and McDonald were still potential future difference makers. Ely and Monk had their moments, but they never had the promise those two had.

by dsm9412 on Nov 27, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

and i'm sure

that colletti will sign a couple non-roster invitees that will serve as long relief/backup backup starters

by court168627 on Nov 27, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

hopefully...

this will take a lot of pressure off of the bullpen too

by court168627 on Nov 27, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

this is my hope. Of course, Troncoso forgetting how to pitch last season didn’t help the bullpen woes…

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The offense was bad, but...........

Going from One of the best Bullpens to less than mediocre bullpen didn’t help the offense much either.

by iiidown on Nov 27, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say the bullpen has absolutely nothing to do with the offense.

by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

it makes it really really difficult for the offense if the bullpen blows leads, though.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The offense was just bad. They weren’t situationally bad. It’s not like they were scoring 5+ runs per game and watching the bullpen blow leads. Down the stretch they averaged something like 3 runs per game and that’s completely independent of what the pitchers do.

I get the cause and effect by having Ely/Monk as starters and having a shitty bullpen (as they were overworked) but I don’t get how the hitters can claim any such correlation.

by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Last year, Dodger starters pitched 952 2/3 innings last year, which was 11th in the NL.

The current 5 for 2011 combined for 157 starts and 986 innings in 2010. Add another 20 innings or so for those other five starts, and that gets them over 1000 innings. That 1,000-inning mark was reached last year in the NL by only the Phillies (1,035) and Giants (1,000).

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Innings pitched by Dodgers starters

2010: 952 2/3 (11th in NL)
2009: 920 1/3 (11th in NL)
2008: 927 2/3 (8th in NL)
2007: 917 (12th in NL)
2006: 922 2/3 (12th in NL)
2005: 955 1/3 (11th in NL)
2004: 935 1/3 (8th in NL)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm slowly working my body

back to being a body again. Summersaults are bad ideas on concrete floors

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

that was so metal though, dude, i was so impressed…matt bellamy would have approved for real

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s the price of greatness, Josie.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it safe to assume we are not going to skip the 5th spot much?

by silverwidow on Nov 27, 2010 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

Very safe. Assuming everyone is healthy of course.

by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Roll call from last night

Me
Mike
Dave
Josie
Maddz
BHSportsGuy
Grimjack
Tripon
Delias Man
mintxcore
regfairfield
Nolander (cue Gilligan’s Island theme song, “…and his wiiiiiife”)
caesarbook

I feel like I’m missing somebody.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

everyone needs to post the songs they did

i did:

Phantom Planet – California
Fast Food Rockers – Fast Food Song
Montgomery Gentry – Hell Yeah

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Jamiroquai – Virtual Insanity
Foreigner – Hot Blooded
Remy Zero – Save Me

…did I do a 4th song or did I dream that?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Knight of Cydonia

and that was Josie

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought there was some Maroon 5 thing in there.

by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

ahh

In that case,

Maroon 5 – This Love

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Jamiroquai – Virtual Insanity

Great song.

by silverwidow on Nov 27, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well now obviously you should have gone!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Love you went with foreigner!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 27, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You carry a very nice melody. All those years blowing that horn, or whatever instrument you play, must tune the ol’ ear.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Oasis – Live Forever
REM – It’s the End Of The World As We Know It
Roxette – The Look with Josie on backup vocals.

by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, it’s probably my greatest talent.

by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Thompson Twins – Hold Me Now
Regulate – Warren G featuring Nate Dogg
Boyz N Tha Hood – Dynamite Hack
One More Minute – Weird Al
Inside Out – Eve 6

I may have missed a song in there.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

that was fantastic

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

You were great on the raps, but I loved the Weird Al original – that’s a great way to go.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Never gonna give you by Rick Astley
What is Love by Haddaway.

I admit I was fucked up by What is Love. No way that song was that slow paced.

by Tripon on Nov 27, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

hahah

i am sure you are not the first
to have that song fight back

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I was feeling for you on that one.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 27, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Garth brook

Two Pina Coladas. I didn’t even know that song had so many damn words.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 27, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh – this happens to people a karaoke!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Green Day – Longview
Muse – Knights of Cydonia (w/ Maddz)
No Doubt – I’m just a girl

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Door: People are strange
Milli Vanilli: blame it on the rain
Back up on: Ball room blitz.

by Grimjack on Nov 27, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You are the man for doing the Doors!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The somersault was unexpected!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow!

After reading the lists of songs performed (or at least attempted) last night, I have deduced that I am obviously older than anyone singing last night. The last kareoke set I did (a few years ago) was:

American Pie – Don McLean
Your Song – Elton John
A duet of You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ – Righteous Brothers
For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield

I’m going back to gumming my oatmeal now. 23 skidoo!

by iiidown on Nov 27, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I could be older than you.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Your Song – Elton John

Had I gone last night, I very well may have drunk enough gin to perform my parody — this ain’t Weird Al, this is a Humma Kavula original — “Your Thong.”

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

oh please

what are some sample lyrics?! That sounds amazing.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

First verse and chorus

It’s a little bit funny
Our underwear
Boxers or briefs, I asked
You didn’t care
But as for you, babe
There was just one choice
When I saw that butt floss
I lost my voice

And now you show everybody that you wear a thong
Peekin’ out above your waistband, somehow it seems wrong
I guess you don’t mind, I guess you don’t mind, that the whole world can see
The fabric you pull down when you gotta pee

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't help myself

Here are the other three verses.

I don’t mean to stare girl, but I think it’s bizarre
Even Sisqo I’m betting would think you’ve gone too far
But It’s your life, it’s your bod, it’s up to you –
Yeah, you wear a thong and it’s showing through

You got really mad, you were taken aback
When I said that no one else would like your crack
You said you would keep wearing that silly thong
“It’s people like me,” you said, “that turn you on.”
 
So just walk away, yeah, the view is quite fine
To err is human, girl… your butt is divine
Maybe yeah, I was wrong – I think it’s keen
You’ve got the sweetest ass I’ve ever seen

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

So basically, the next TBLA karaoke night will have to take place away from the holidays so you can share this majesty with everyone.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as you don’t mind me literally shaking with stage fright. I would be horribly embarrassed to perform such a thing.

These are the mysteries of Kavula. I talk a big game, but I’m all hat and no cattle.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 27, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The karaoke hostess said

she had never heard “Fast Food Song” before – even I had heard that one! You killed it. I was hoping for a reference to pink mechanically separated chicken though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

the funny thing is

last time i did that song at Gabes (a year or two ago, different host) the host said he never heard it before too hahaha
now, have you heard the campfire version or the euro hyper sexual kids techno version?

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

IIRC

Dancing With Myself – Billy Idol
Train in Vain – The Clash (sorry Marty, I know that’s way too poppy!)
The First Cut Is The Deepest – Rod Stewart style (I think I said something about it being a song IVDown could sing. Lyrics.)
Picture – Kid Rock/Sheryl Crow (coerced by hostess into singing with tone-deaf chick)
Crystal Blue Persuasion – Tommy James (old enough for iiidown to know)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 27, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Train in Vain was uber-excellent. Such a cool guy song too. I loved the fact you got drafted by the hostess to sing with that VIA* lady

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

Mike texted me saying they weren’t carding around 8, I was already drinking by that point with my friend though so neither of us were going to be able to drive.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 27, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I got there a little before 9

and they didn’t card at the door, but the guy came up to us a bit after we got there and carded us.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 27, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

this one weird guy asked me and Maddz for our IDs with phone numbers. I was just confused since I didn’t think DL’s had phone numbers

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was hitting on us.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha, I think dude was secreting alcohol through his pores at that point.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I did love that he had his own pewter stein. I thought he was a viking for a split second

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Next time

I already have my song picked out. I’m gonna need to practice the hell out of it thou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWSDaAdrBM

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

for the curious..

this is a video of my karaokexcore band. this video has 2 songs, the first one is a song I wish i could have done last night but they didnt have it (a lil’ Katy Perry) and it segues into my first song from last night, California.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Np8UaiNQ9w

by mintxcore on Nov 27, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

“a person in baseball who had been briefed on the matter.

Is that a new way of saying “I’m full of shit”?

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/jeter-said-to-be-asking-for-23-to-24-million-a-year/

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 27, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

*"Sir, you’ve gone on record saying that Jeter’s agent is asking for 24 million a year, what is your baseball affiiliation?"
-“Well I sweep the locker rooms, and I make sure every player gets an orange before the game”
*"I see, so when you were briefed…"
-“That pipe right there, it leads right to the Steinbrener’s office, and when I listen to it real close and no one is here, I gets to hear all that goes on up there.”

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I like QRANK

because I am awesome at guessing. But apparently not so much while drunk.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

So that’s how I managed to win by so much today…

by regfairfield on Nov 27, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

have you played live QRANK? it’s fun.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I live near a place that you can “play” at, so I’ve been doing it from bed while I’ve been here.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to claim the woman with giant hair and too much makeup, Maddz can be the one enthralled by IVDown’s vocal stylings

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG, incredible touchdown by Arkansas to end the half

by Michael White on Nov 27, 2010 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

A goat and then a hero

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Cal scores a TD

on a fumble recovery, 10-7 over Washington

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

Cal and Washington

have a quarter to decide which one of them probably grabs the last Pac-10 automatic bowl bid.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

Stanford

will be the only California team in the Pac-10 to go to a bowl game.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

well on the plus side….nope, I got nothing. Where the Cal team has ended up is not the Cal team I fell in love with as a Freshman. Though it is the Cal team most everyone else knew

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to believe

that Kevin Riley meant that much to Cal. But it was the defense that gave up a couple of big plays (though they did score the only the TD for Cal today).

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Riley, like Longshore before him, is not a pro-ready QB like you want at a major program, but he was the only game ready quarterback

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

aye

Is there any talk of replacing tedford?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Nov 27, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

only the first losing season of his career, and he’s the best Cal’s had since the second great war. His job is secure through next year at AT&T park, but if he can’t put together a winner once Cal’s stadium renovations are done, then his job is in jeopardy.

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

A Washington victory over WSU

will give them a bowl game appearance.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Cal won't go bowling

and the rule created to prevent Mack Brown from hurting the Bears again like he did in 2004 is going to benefit Stanford. Brilliant.

by Josie Becker on Nov 27, 2010 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

Ryan Mallett

is doing his best Bret Favre impression today.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

sending people unsolicited pictures of his junk?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

I actually changed my flight reservation this morning…I’m leaving on Monday. Super impulsive but it feels like the right decision, so…

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing from KeithC13

in a while, I am sure he is enjoying the game.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

or buying his daughter shoes…

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

or

jumping for joy at the upset.

Congrats Keith!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Right now

Oregon has clinched a BCS Bowl (Rose or BCS title game).
There will be one representative from the Big East, ACC and Big 12 conference.
The Big Ten will probably send two teams (Wisconsin – Rose, Ohio State – at large)
TCU will more than likely play in the Rose Bowl.
If Auburn wins next week, it will play in the BCS title game, the question is will a 2 loss SEC team be chosen as an at-large team, LSU’s loss could push them below the Top 12 and perhaps Arkansas could move in.

The biggest loser this weekend is the Sugar Bowl because had LSU won today, the Sugar Bowl had the home-state school all set to take since Auburn was going to the title game. Now, its possible that the only other eligible SEC team will be Arkansas and I don’t know if the Sugar Bowl chooses them (though I think they will).

The last at-large bid is probably between Boise State and Stanford, if Stanford can put up some style points today, they might be able to move into 4th in the BCS Standings.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Do they think if Arkansas jumps into the top 12

that they will go to the Sugar Bowl. (Assuming South Carolina doesn’t win next Saturday)

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so.

They had reps from the Sugar Bowl at the game.

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

But my opinion is very biased, so you might look to someone else for that.

:)

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Oregon vs. TCU

Best offense vs. best DEFENSE.

Terrific match.

by silverwidow on Nov 27, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

It’s nice to want things

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Auburn loses next week, then I get what I want!

by silverwidow on Nov 27, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

For the Record

I’ve eaten so much Pumpkin Pie I think my skin is turning orange

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

So no

frying of turkey this year?

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Not this week anyway.

I may do one in the middle of December.

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

A few Dodgers minor league deals

last week, per Baseball America:

RHP Jon Huber (re-signed), C Keyter Collado (re-signed)

These are of the minor league, non-spring training variety, as far as I know. I believe the only two NRIs so far are Eveland and Villarreal.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

LULZ at USC..

Notre Dame up 13-3 at halftime.

I’d be very surprised if Pat Haden doesnt bring in his own guy there.
Lane Kiffin very poor 1st season.

by Joey Joe on Nov 27, 2010 6:36 PM PST reply actions  

Hopefully, not J.K. McKay

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Nov 27, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Would be shocked if Kiffin was fired

It doesn’t help (tonight) that Mitch Mustain is fucking terrible.

Or is this another “Boise State wins” comment? :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet his Mom is happy he’s playing!

I wonder if she had requested to meet with Kiffin before the season because her shitty QB son wasn’t starting?

by keithc13 on Nov 27, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

USC

could have won a few more games this year but when your most consistent offensive player is your fullback, you have problems.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 27, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Mustain and Rhett Bomar have a lot in common.
Big time busts.

by Joey Joe on Nov 27, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The funny thing is….

Mustain was 8-0 his freshman year at Arkansas.

by keithc13 on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Off-Topic...

I saw an Andre Ethier fan today (of course he was weared a Ander Ethier jersey) in Paris, into a mall…
He was a tourist who came to Paris for a few weeks, we talked a little bit about Jon Garland, the rotation and our needs… And of course, I asked him if he known about TBLA… :)

Whatever, he enjoyed his time in Paris despite the snow and the very cold temperature overthere (30°F at the afternoon)

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Nov 27, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

heh

i’m sure he thought it was very cool he met a Dodger fan in France.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He was very surprised...

He asked me why I became a Dodger fan instead of a Yankee/Red Sox/White Sox fan (he told that he saw so many guys weared Yankee or Red Sox hat).

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Nov 27, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

is there a story behind that?

you may have told it already, but i don’t know :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I told it during Spring Training :)

1/ Vin Scully
2/ Great History
3/ Great Atmosphere at DS
4/ Lot of Asian Players who did well (My favorite one: The Tornado)
5/ I love L.A.

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Nov 27, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

all of those reasons

are awesoke.

The Tornado ruled.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Toni Tone lied..

Regarding the atmospheric conditions pertaining to southern california..

by Joey Joe on Nov 27, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

5th loss in the Lane Kiffin era.
UCLA may have a chance next week.

This Notre Dame team was not a good team.

by Joey Joe on Nov 27, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that this weather could be

attributed to my butchering of milli vanilli last night.

by Grimjack on Nov 27, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t think you butchered it. You probably did better than they would have, singing live.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Uribe worth 6million to the Dodgers

http://bit.ly/dOeoME

Based on the above link from Michael Urban, if the Dodgers nned another player to hit about 20 HR’s and it seems that the Dodgers feel DeJesus is a year away, would it make sense to sign Uribe for 6mil probably a two year deal.

I think it is a decent gamble, based on the reality that the Dodgers probably can’t get any of the big names, we need an offensive upgrade at 2nd. Uribe can play all infield positions, so conceivably he could play 3rd in 2012 after Blake leaves. You also take him away from your arch rival. You could also argue that he is only a 2million upgrade over the riot.

by wineracquet on Nov 27, 2010 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

Uribe is definitely a player I could see getting signed. Personally he’s not someone I’d be looking at, but it does feel possible. If the price is right it’s hard to see Ned walking away.

by LA Taco on Nov 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Mitch Mustain must be a Giants fan.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 27, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

this is great!

I love that they thought Kershaw was like Sunshine. <3 Billz, thanks!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool Kershaw Video

His voice is cracking. Adorbs!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha

“There’s all these stats…but at the end of the day, it matters about who has more runs. That’s it.”

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool Russ Mitchell Video
It’s part of the Dodgers Route of Champions Series in which they make stops at 5 Dodger minor league locations. Only AAA is out now, but AA will be coming soon with an interview with Jerry Sands. These are on FSN as well, which is where I watched the entire AAA episode this morning

by Brandon Lennox on Nov 27, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe they were playing this at the bar last night

I think I drunkenly shrieked about it to someone.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

man i wish i could have been there

and seen everything that has been talked about above

by Brandon Lennox on Nov 27, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

“I’M SCARED”

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamie Gamer

clearly does not give a fuck in this video.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

John Lindsey’s face when he hit the homerun is great. That’s the sort of stuff that makes me tear up — grown men looking so very happy.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

speaking of John Lindsey

Another cool video!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

no shame in that, Vin is amazing.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAAH

“What’s his name? We call him baby face.”

Karma’s a bitch, Dre.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

oh my god

Vin is a pimp

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

isn't he?

that was cool of him. When he said “i’m honored to meet you.” you just believe it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The way he gets the woman to stop crying…p-i-m-p.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Nov 27, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that was great.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 27, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I know! Although to be honest I have a hard time using the word pimp as a positive thing. Although given some of Vin’s blazer choices maybe it’s not all that far off.

by LA Taco on Nov 27, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

When you can

argue that the Dodgers had the best week of all Southern California sports teams in late November, that is probably not a good thing.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2010 1:06 AM PST reply actions  

1999

was the last year USC, UCLA and Cal did not play in a bowl game while Stanford did play in one
(Rose Bowl).

by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2010 1:20 AM PST reply actions  

Ranking NL Rotations

1. Philadelphia (Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, Kendrick) – Top 3 (esp. Halladay) pushes them to top but Kendrick could move them down at some point.
2. San Francisco (Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Zito) – (Great finish, wonder if post-season innings will affect 2011)
3. Los Angeles (Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Kuroda, Garland) – Great overall depth, if can repeat 2010 numbers, could move up.
4. St. Louis (Carpenter, Wainwright, Garica, Lohse, Westbrook) – Like the Dodgers back two more than Cardinals but it is close.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2010 1:41 AM PST reply actions  

BCS stuff

Barring any upsets, the standings that come out tomorrow should stand if Oregon and Auburn win out.

Big East – UConn, Pittsburgh or West Virginia will play in the Orange Bowl
ACC – Florida State or Virginia Tech will play in the Orange Bowl
Big-12 – Nebraska or Oklahoma will play in the Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 – Oregon will play in either the Rose Bowl or BCS Title Game
Big-10 – based on the final BCS Rankings, Wisconsin, Ohio State or Michigan State will play in the Rose Bowl (currently Wisconsin is ahead)
SEC – Auburn or South Carolina will represent SEC, if Auburn wins SEC Title, they will play in the BCS Title game, if South Carolina wins, they will play in the Sugar Bowl.

TCU will play in a BCS Bowl game, if Oregon and Auburn win next Saturday, TCU will play in the Rose Bowl, if one of those teams loses, more than likely, TCU would play in the the BCS Title game.

The other more than likely at-large teams include Stanford, Ohio State, Arkansas and Boise State. I would expect all four of these teams will be in the final Top 14 of the BCS standings, thus eligible for an At-large selection.

If Stanford moves into fourth place of BCS rankings tomorrow with Wisconsin, Ohio State and Michigan State behind them, I don’t think anything could happen next weekend to push Stanford out of that spot and thus get an automatic at-large bid. I also think that if a second SEC team is in the Top 14 (barring a South Carolina win next week), the Sugar Bowl will take that team as the replacement for Auburn should Auburn go to the BCS Title game.

Finally, given the choice of Boise State, Ohio State, and Michigan State, the choice will probably be Ohio State.

BCS Bowl Predictions:

BCS Title Game: Oregon v. Auburn
Rose Bowl: TCU v. Wisconsin
Sugar Bowl: Arkansas v. Ohio State
Orange Bowl: Florida State/Va. Tech v. UConn/Pitt/West Virginia
Fiesta Bowl: Nebraska/Oklahoma v. Stanford

The more I look at this, if Oregon would lose next week, they would just switch places with TCU. If Auburn loses next week, I can’t see them falling below number 14 in the Final BCS Standings, so I think Stanford would go to the Rose Bowl (as the Rose Bowl would no longer be obligated to take anyone since TCU would go up to the BCS Title game), the Orange Bowl would probably select Auburn and the Big East Champion would end up in the Fiesta Bowl.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 28, 2010 4:10 AM PST reply actions  

Looks right to me.

Nice recap

by keithc13 on Nov 28, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, Eric

That second chart goes back to the days of the 4 man rotation. A few years ago I looked back to the 60’s and it was amazing. The Dodgers often won the ERA title 3 and more times a decade( in their division) until 2000. Looking at the names one can see why.

by Gen3blue on Nov 28, 2010 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

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Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
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3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

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27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
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