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Dodgers 2011 #7 Prospect Chat

ANAHEIM CA - JULY 11:  U.S. Futures All-Star Dee Gordon #5 of the Los Angeles Dodgers throws the ball during the 2010 XM All-Star Futures Game at Angel Stadium of Anaheim on July 11 2010 in Anaheim California.  (Photo by Jeff Gross/Getty Images)

Dee Gordon was winning the #6 vote by quite a bit, and therefore we've decided to move on to the #7 prospect vote.  Gordon also was a very close 2nd place in the #5 vote, so it makes sense to move on at this point given his additional support in round 6.

Thus far, the TBLA Prospect List looks like:

1.     Jerry Sands

2.     Trayvon Robinson

3.     Zach Lee

4.     Rubby De La Rosa

5.     Kenley Jansen

6.     Dee Gordon

Same rules apply as always.  We'll leave the voting in the fanpost open for 24 hours, until 12:30 pm PST on Thursday.  Click Here To Vote

The round 7 candidates (ages as of 2011 opening day):

Allen Webster (21 years old) RHP – Webster has been excellent in his 3 minor league seasons, and has a career minor league ERA of 2.76 in 218.1 innings.  While his strikeout rate dropped a bit in 2010, his 131.1 innings with the Loons as 20 year old almost doubled his workload from the previous year, so it was expected that he’d tire a bit.  He has a low 90’s fastball that hits 94 and has a lot of sink, and his curveball is very solid. 

Aaron Miller (23.5 years old) LHP – Was great in the California league, but struggled during his 23 innings in AA.  He doesn’t throw real hard, generally working in the low 90’s, but he has great control.  He also has a power slider and is working on a changeup.

Chris Withrow (22 years old) RHP – TBLA’s #1 prospect last year, Withrow had a very disappointing 2010 season in AA.  However he was one of the youngest players in the Southern League at just 21 years old, so he still have plenty of time to improve his game.  He still has great stuff, as Baseball America’s most recent report says that "he features a mid-90s fastball that bores and sinks, and he also spins a plus curveball in the mid-70s." 

Ethan Martin (21.75 years old) RHP – Martin had terrible stats in 2010, but his stuff is still solid.  He throws in the mid 90’s, occasionally hitting 98, and has a big breaking curveball.  He also has a developing changeup, and is still just 21 years old.  His biggest problem last season related to the fact that his fastball lacked movement, so he needs to improve that as well as the mental aspect of his game.

Jonathan Garcia (19.25 years old) OF – Garcia played the entire 2010 season as an 18 year old and posted some very solid stats.  The only caveat to his .305 average and 10 homers is that he did most of his damage at home in the Raptors hitter friendly park.  He’s a little undersized at 5’11", but plays solid defense and at 19 years old he still could still hit a growth spurt.

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Some thoughts from another LA GM

Should the Clippers blow everything up?

This is going to sound weird, but the question Olshey, his staff, and new coach Vinny Del Negro must answer going forward is whether they can afford to try and keep winning.

In other words, asking whether the long-term future of the franchise is best served by trading Kaman or Davis or both for draft picks and/or salary cap relief and, perhaps most important, creating more playing time for Griffin, Gordon and rookies Eric Bledsoe and Aminu.

That’s an easier sell in a market like Oklahoma City, still basking in the glow of having its own team. But in Los Angeles, with the Lakers as neighbors and an owner who has opened his wallet for free agents and to build a new state-of-the-art training facility, it’s not realistic.

“We don’t have the luxury of tearing it down and having a five-year rebuilding plan,” Olshey said. “And that’s not what we’d want to do anyway.”

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

they could be like the Kings

and blow it up over and over until it works.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not like a ton of fans go to clippers games to actually see the clippers.. I dont see the problem.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Nov 3, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could buy the argument. I even argued it in the off-season which involved trading Baron for Eddy Curry (expiring) and then trading picks for Rubio.

For the record, I think the team could rebuild and keep Kaman. He’s really not that old.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should try to go get Marc Gasol.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is not gettable. No chance.

I would love it though. Gasol and Rubio on the same team. Hell, I’d even try to trade for Rudy Fernandez in that case.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think people are already off the Rubio wagon

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

how can they be jumping off when he hasn’t even played here yet?

I still think signing Trevor Ariza to play the 3 would have been a great move by the Clippers. He was a Lakers fan favorite, their 3’s tend to suck, and he can run with Bledsoe, Gordon, Griffin.

On a side not, Bledsoe dribbles too fucking much.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is sort of the same. not trending upwards against euro competition.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Jennings looked terrible playing in Europe and exploded on the league last year.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

you also like trayvon. i am souring on your minor league opinions.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trevor Ariza

he’s better than Devean George but he should not be in your top 4 best players on the team.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think with Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin, he’d be a high-energy, defense-first complementary piece to that starting five. He would be the 5th best player on the floor.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually think he’s right.

Problem is paying for Ariza if he’s the fifth best starter, but you can do that when you have EJ and Griffin on rookie contracts.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that he is right on everything except saying Baron Davis is good.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baron is good. He’s got his issues, but he can play.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he is one of your 3 or 4 best options, you’re fucked as an organization. IMO

He is fat, bitchy, and hurt way too much. IMO

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s silly. How many teams do you think have 4 better starting players than him?

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just about everyone in the West

we are talking the 2010 version, so I’ll stand by that until he can show me he can still play.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. You’re right there.

He is better than the 3rd or 4th option on most teams.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baron Davis is good.

every 10th game and only if it’s against a good team on national television.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

I think he would have fit in pretty well there. I think the best player for that team right now is 2000-01 Rick Fox.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Ariza and I think he would’ve been great for the Clippers.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine by me. Cheaper price. Watching that guy play he is a true PG. He makes the right decisions. His shooting will get better.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rubio

He looked terrible against the Lakers in the exhibition game in Europe. No offensive game at all.

by preacher roe on Nov 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

To bad

they will have to anyway. And they do have that option, no one more then Clipper fans know about playing for the future. Maybe Olshey should listen to his season ticket holders who are screaming for Bledsoe and Jordan before he makes that comment that they don’t have the luxury of tearing it down.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade Baron for Eddy Curry, trade Eddy Curry and two first rounders for Chris Paul. Boom.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That ship has sailed.

NYK is no longer intersted in Baron since they signed Felton and they can just let Curry expire and use the space to sign Carmelo.

What I’d do right now is help NYK trade for Carmelo by trading a first round pick for Gallinari.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting. Do you think they missed out on an opportunity by not getting involved with the 4 team trade that could have gotten them either Darren Collison or Ariza (or both!). Imagine if they could have given up Baron Davis and a 1st rounder for those two and ended up with Collison, Gordon, Ariza, Griffin, Kaman with Bledsoe off the bench.

Pipe dreams.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The front office apparently had other GMs calling about the availability of every starter and Deandre Jordan in the off-season. Not too surprising in the case of Gordon and Griffin. Kaman has a bit of trade value still too. Baron was the most surprising considering his contract and his showing these past 2 years (even though he wasn’t bad last year.)

So yes, if it turns out that the Baron we saw the first 3 games is here to stay, then they missed an enormous oppurtunity to move him.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would not have posted the story

if it was just a reporter’s opinion, it was the quotes by the GM that intrigued me.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

Olshey is 50/50 right for me. I saw no point in spending money just to be spending money on Gomes, but I totally loved him getting Bledsoe when he saw he was still available. As anyone who has seen the team, this might be a 500 team after they start playing together but that is the max. Since that is the max, why bother, the future is going to be Gordon/Blesoe/Muslim/Griffin/Kaman or Jordan. Might as well get them as much time together as possible on the floor right now.

Sure Blesoe dribbles to much, that is however based on one professional start. His growing pains are going to be tough but lets get them out of the way now. JMO

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Bledsoe played great considering. As Clipper steve mentioned, Westbrook still dribbles too much. Bledsoe is 19 and played SG last year. He’s showed up great considering his background.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should be fun tonight

going to be a track meet.

Biggest surprise to me this year is how fast Eric Gordon can get to the basket. 2nd biggest surprise to me is how sucky Eric Gordon has been shooting outside the paint.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the broadcast Monday night MILPH asked if Gordon was maybe off after playing all summer with the international 3 point line? After all, he’s been hitting jumpers, just not three pointers.

It’s a good question.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, I heard that

but that was months ago and he’s been using the real 3 point land for several months. I’m skeptical, I think he’s just in a shooting slump.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

MILPH

Is that like Phat with a PH?

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clipper broacasters: Mike Smith and Ralph Lawler

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer calling them SMAWLER

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lol’d.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are all Gordons fast?

:-)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So does Gordon Campbell.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Donald Sterling created a TBLA account and started commenting here, would you ban him?

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would Sterling’s sig be?

“Proud Owner of a Baron Davis Real Doll?”

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twelve Players. Two Coaches. Ten Wins. One Season.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is great.

You’re gonna get banned, but just know that this is good stuff.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don't ban clever

Not sure if anyone remembers or cares but DodgerRamon bashed the Clippers last year and got on my shit list, and I bet him that we win 40 games, I had to pay by Dec we were so bad. Now were buds.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You and your friends.

Good to hear that you have a caring side.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You and your friends.

Fixed

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was Phil that made that bet.

The meercat would have told him to go fuck himself!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the poster. When he does post, he comes in firing.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but not because he is the Clipper owner

but because he is a terrible person who thinks he can buy his way back into heaven but it is not going to work.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Word Association with Donald Sterling

1) Clippers
2) Racism and Housing
3) Horrible Graphic Design

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m not even a Clippers fan and it annoys me.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Move the Clippers to Fresno.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ron-Ron would prefer SD:

Maybe we can swap, the Chargers for the Clippers. No disrespect to the Clippers. You can have them back. I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way. I really like the Clippers, but I feel they deserve their own fan base because in L.A. they’re overshadowed. The Clippers deserve a shot at having their own identity.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bills claim Shawne Merriman

This is no shock. Their D is horrific.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Good news, Erik Bedard is a FA

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

/stab

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Humma is going to get his wish?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not an Aaron Harang fan

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ned didnt ask your fucking opinion

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason

this made me laugh out loud. LOL.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

because grammatically

delias just told Keith that Ned doesn’t need his opinion on having sex

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harang wouldn’t be as bad pitching half his games at Dodger Stadium.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Ned does not have to trade Sands for him now.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adrian Bletre declined his $10M option.

He is now a FA

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

well which one declined!?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe BELTRE declined.

I’m checking with my sources right now……

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This thread has too much sass.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

loved that sketch

RIP Phil Hartman

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My co-worker just came back from the Giants parade.

FUCK

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh shit, I’m hearing STRONG rumors about Moss back to Oakland!!!

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Voices in your head or real talk?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

what twitter feed are you consider stronger than the other twitter feed you’re getting stuff from?

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I learned in school not to reveal my sources. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the opposite of what you’re supposed to…oh, journalism school. Forgot they still had those

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this

silverwidow is Al Davis. It all makes sense. Silver…..Black…..Widow.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

my twitter feed

is not confirming these rumors

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, Jeff Fisher taking a chance on him

I would hate to be the Titans caterer right now!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

My lunchtime conversation

For the sake of protecting the identities of some rather high up people, we’ll refer to the two people I had lunch with today as ‘Ned’ and ‘Frank’.

Me: I know September 19 is National Talk Like a Pirate Day. When is National Talk Like a Trucker Day?
Ned: Well, for Frank, everyday is Talk Like a Trucker Day.
Frank: Fuck you.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Tweets about football

miklasz
RT @mortreport: Rams did not put in a claim for Moss

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

good

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't think it is that tough a vote

Withrow has the better arm and put up better peripherals than Webster at the same age in much tougher pitching environments.

by Sean P. on Nov 3, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except he got crushed in AA

and we don’t know what Webster will do in AA. I’m going with Webster. If it was just command issues with Withrow but the fact is, he was hit really really really hard. Like Tomko hard.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like Tomko hard.

I lol’d

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow's H/9 was 10.1 last year in his first full year in AA at age 21

Brad Penny had a H/9 10.1 in his first full year in AA at age 21. Penny wasn’t wild though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can check the minor league pages on B-Ref.

B-Ref just won’t bother to provide park factors or norming stuff like OPS+ for the minors.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

32 doubles, 6 triples, 13 HR in 129 2/3 IP, 604 batters faced, per firstinning.com

I’m just more willing to bet on a Withrow rebound than Webster not also struggling when he gets to AA.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect Webster to struggle

if he starts 2011 in AA. Will he struggle like Withrow did in 2010? I hope not. Withrow had a pretty shitty defense behind him in Perez/Perdroza/Gordon/old guy. Webster probably had a decent 2nd/Ss with Ynoa/Lara.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Conveniently

forgets the trade of Alderson (1st Round 2007) for Sanchez. Otherwise, good story.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted for Withrow here

Even though he struggled in AA, it is AA and he was only 21. For all that Webster did show, it was all at Great Lakes. Not enough for me to drop Withrow, his potential and his #1 pedigree below Webster.

Was Withrow the guy that Charlie Hough was ga-ga over?

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Gotta be Webster

2.88 ERA, 114 Ks in 131 innings with only 6 home runs allowed in Single-A at age 20? He’s got my vote.

by ucla139 on Nov 3, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Who had a 131 Ks in 113 innings at age 20? A guy that I like to call Chris Withrow.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check his numbers this year

Not so good. If Webster has that kind of year next year I might leave him off the prospect list entirely.

by ucla139 on Nov 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saying that Withrow was much better at age 20 between A+ and AA than Webster was in A ball.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is way too soon to give up on Withrow's potential

and it would be way too soon to give up on Webster if he has a year like that in the Cal League.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both Withrow and Webster are likely teammates at AA.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure where Webster starts 2011.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

His numbers really don’t scream “jump me up two levels”.

K/9 under 8 is really concerning from a guy that’s supposed to be a great prospect.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Putting him at Rancho is also asking him to get beat up.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if he can’t succeed (at least to some degree) in high A, what’s the point?

Withrow managed.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also mostly a sinkerballer isn’t he?

Even Brandon Webb at age 21 in A+ had an 8.8 k/9 and Derek Lowe at age 20 in A+ had a 4.7 k/9

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Webb had half the walks that Webster does though.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

he also won a Cy Young

my point being, even if he isn’t Brandon Webb, if you have a good sinker, your peripherals (specifically K/9) may look worse than your peers, but depending on what piss-poor minor league defense you’re playing in front of, your stats aren’t all that set in stone.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again

maybe we should examine what is two levels? DeJon Watson has stated he considers the MWL and the Cal league pretty much the same and does him promotions based on other criteria.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea but we know MWL is a lot easier to pitch in than Cal league. Seems like they like to put their trade bait in the MWL.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just the opposite.

MWL has always had our top prospects since 2007. Withrow was the rarity that didn’t pitch there.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t Martin & Eovaldi both in the Cal?

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

I don’t agree with either you or Silverwidow

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I even agree with myself

In that I was kind of kidding about the trade bait thing. I doubt they put guys in leagues based on expectations of trading them.

Just seems like in recent history we’ve traded a lot of pitchers out of the MWL. I say this based off no research and just memory.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the organization

would trade Withrow before they would trade Webster.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They might get more too

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is more a product of Withrow likely being valued higher by other teams, not that they expect Webster to be any more of a MLB pitcher than Withrow.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are about equal in value right now — they are going to go 7-8 in our rankings — but I think with Withrow’s history, he would garner more in a trade.

So, yeah, I’d trade Withrow first, too, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I’d rank him below Webster.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take too long to type and I am double-redundant. Sigh.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am double-redundant.

You should work for Fox!

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. Even if A and high A are the same the jump is huge to AA. Webster doesn’t have the numbers that tell me he’s going to be some dominant force in AA.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like you to participate more here on the prospect talk

we all respect your opinion even if we don’t always agree with it. I know it is hard for you without calling anyone an idiot but I think you can do it in a way that would enlighten us.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am willing to jump into the conversation and he can call me an idiot.

I’m willing to be the sacrificial lamb…

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't mind being called an idiot

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind being called an idiot, either, but I like that this is a place where people try to refrain from calling each other idiots, so i’d hope that would continue.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t you be coaching first base somewhere?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Philadelphia

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once was enough, dick.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You and your mulitple personalities.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s totally creating a third account right now: elephantdick

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I Think That Is Unfair, Phil

I never call people here idiots. I may occasionally refer to something said as idiotic or stupid (yes, I think there is a difference) or call Colletti, some journalist, etc. an idiot or a moron, but I do not call non-trolls who participate here rude names.

by CanuckDodger on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is true

you never call anyone a name, but you do an excellent job or you did at DT of saying someone is an idiot without calling them a name. My wife would say it is the tone I use. I would say it is your writing tone.

Either way, jump in here, I know you have plenty to add to this conversation.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

reporter: “so how long have the two of you been a black qb to wr combo?”

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

As if that team didn't have enough douche bags

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are assuming Vince Young stays healthy long enough

to actually throw him a pass also.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with Withrow

If a guy’s going to be a great major leaguer, he’s probably not going to struggle TERRIBLY in the minors, right? You’d expect him to just blow by the competition, correct? And yes, Withrow struggled terribly, even considering his age: ERA of almost six, WHIP of 1.66, 69 walks and 13 home runs allowed in 129 IP = not good. He can’t be considered a good prospect until he learns better control.

by ucla139 on Nov 3, 2010 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

If a guy’s going to be a great major leaguer, he’s probably not going to struggle TERRIBLY in the minors, right? You’d expect him to just blow by the competition, correct?

Not necessarily, no.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

But for the most part , yes

for every AJ Burnett there are dozens who got whacked in AA and will get whacked in the major leagues if they even make it. Would you be betting on him becoming AJ Burnett or the rest of the story?

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rest of the story, but I have more faith that he’ll make it than Webster. Withrow’s still young for his league, I think he gets another year to prove himself.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Is pretty much my line of thinking.

I feel like with Withrow something will either click and he’ll be a #2/#3 guy or it won’t and he will be done.

Webster might be more likely to be a #5 pitcher, but seems tough to think he will make it as much more.

So then it becomes, what do you value more – the upside, or more of a sure thing with a lower ceiling?

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

But where Withrow was before this year can’t be ignored, right? How many prospects as highly rated as Withrow go to AA and get bombed?

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was only highly rated here

he did not make many prospects top 100 lists, so when you say highly rated, remember it was us who highly rated him not the prospect mavens. I argued with HQ scouts about him, and they said I was ignoring his command issues and to much on his age.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was top 50 in Baseball America.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein also had him ranked 2nd and a 5 star prospect. (Which to Goldstein, a top 50). Sickles also had him on his top 50 pitchers list.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our current #6 prospect went to AA and got his ass kicked too.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not many people think this except commenters at TBLA.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also mentioned “great major leaguer.” I don’t really expect that of any of our prospects anyway. We are talking about the 7-8 guys of a middling farm system.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right at this point

interchanging Webster or Withrow does not really matter. We hope they both are in AA proving their potential is real so that on July 31st we can get the relief pitcher we will need.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Withrow would have been higher if I hadn’t rated so many votes on Jansen :)

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, Jansen is going to make people forget about Mariano Rivera, so it’s all good.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Canuck found a great comp in A.J. Burnett.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know man. He fired me up when the Texans beat the Colts in Week 1. He gave this 5 minuute speech about “Hey, nice job. You better bring your A game next week and prove you belong”.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clint Hurdle
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#pirates managerial search is down to clint hurdle, probably the favorite, or respected organization man jeff banister

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It took a while

for someone who was replaced by Jim Tracy to replace someone who replaced Jim Tracy

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

2005

Dodgers let Jim Tracy go, Tracy is hired by Pittsburgh, manages Pirates in 2006 and 2007. Out of baseball in 2008 (still being paid $1M by Pirates). Hired by Colorado as bench coach prior to 2009 season, takes over for Hurdle in May 2009.

Hurdle, fired by Rockies in 2009, was in last year of his contract with Rockies, hired by Rangers as their hitting coach in November 2009, now about to replace John Russell who was fired from Pirates with a year (2011) left on his contract.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was kidding with you :)

But thanks.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

note to Hurdle

don’t stock your coaching staff with ex-managers that will take your job when given the chance.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

like Trey Hillman and Davey Lopes

sharpening the daggers for when Donnie Baseball turns his back?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although, Casey Kelly despite having as worse of a season as Chris Withrow did is ranked 1st on the list.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly has gotten SO much hype, even by mainstream media.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Sox system was ranked #5 last year

So over-hyped. I wonder what they will rank this year after multiple top prospect flops and the loss of Tazawa and Westmoreland.

I guess they spent the most on bonuses in the 2010 draft, so that helps.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daniel Nava: 91 OPS+
Matt Kemp: 107 OPS+

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

I pulled that out of my ass, he sucked after the first half.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Column: As #SFGiants celebrate in #SF, it’s time to consider future. Repeat possible? I compare to ’90s #Yankees. http://bit.ly/cDI3bL #MLB

My large gut says no.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Um, congratulations to the Giants on the championship and everything, but the late 90s Yankees are the best team I’ll ever see, so you’ll pardon me if I think comparisons to those Yankees are premature.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Morosi works for Fox

hyperbole is to be expected.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

hyperbole stupidity is to be expected.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

synonymous terms

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there are some posters here

who might find that insulting.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

synonymous terms

I hope not. I make my money in hyperbole. And good money it is, too.

I hope it’s not stupidity. Hyperbole I can sleep at night; stupidity I can’t.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

hyperbole as a “reporter” contributes nothing. hyperbole as a writer is fantastic. Especially with how great Humma is with his creativity. I expect a repeat performance from humma next year. He reminds me of the 90’s Geoffrey Chaucer.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every reporter every year

This [just crowned sports champion] team sure looks like a favorite to repeat as champion of the [league] next year.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the fact that it was Giants-Rangers in the WS

shows you can’t truly predict jack shit.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enter Fox reporter

On his desk are a bottle of whiskey and some droll from where he fell asleep earlier.

Fox Reporter
I have nothing left to say about this season. I’m paid to watch the national baseball scene, and all I know about the Giants I learned last week.

His Boss
These Giants fans want to read more stories about themselves. Give me some content.

Fox Reporter
takes a shot of whiskey
Welp, I’ll just take my World Series review, and insert the word repeat at random

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

if writers had droll

instead of drool oozing from their mouths, it would be a funnier planet

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That piece Jon and then I posted yesterday from Cliff Corcoran

took a far more realistic approach to looking at next year’s GIants. a ton of question marks, a mediocre outfield, the odds are their hitting won’t repeat nor will they afford the biggest FAs, and overall the answer was: odds are no, they will likely not repeat.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only a 11 time Ring holder can make this statement

Link

Quote of the night: “We [A.C.] Green and we had Robert Horry backing him up. We had [Rick] Fox backing up [Glen] Rice. We had two people at every position that were quality players … except [John Salley] for Shaq.” — Phil Jackson recounting the 1999-00 Lakers team, the group he considers to be the deepest he’s coached until maybe this season’s edition

.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Having both Artest and Barnes at the three is sick.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who doesn't hate Penny?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Nickel hates all other denominations

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

especially dime

“I’m bigger then this little shit, and he’s worth more? what the fuck?”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Mothers name is Penny.

I don’t hate her.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record

this follows the same rhythm and feet as:

I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is kinda funny.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Penny was great, y’all are haters.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s like Blanton but with actual stuff!

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq hated this Penny

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by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had to pick one, Webb.

I wouldn’t sign any of them.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

same here

those shoulder injuries on pitchers are troubling.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Penny

is probably the most likely to actually stay healthy, but I feel like has the least upside.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bedard

Unless Webb proves he can throw harder than 85.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duchscherer

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would St. Louis trade Pujols to the Angels for Trout, straight up? Serious question.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

No

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’d have to talk the Angels up to Salmon

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They would have to get someone

who could come in and play for them immediately. If they are total crap at the deadline maybe trout and some other players might do it? I don’t think they trade him period really.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

the man has only played above A ball and is not an impact player just the best athlete in the minor leagues playing CF. Would you trade Pujols for Crawford because that is Trout’s upside.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Trout hype is reaching a boiling point right now. If they expect Pujols to leave, this is an incredible talent to acquire.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, if you were a Cardinal fan, you would be alright with the Red Birds trading one of the best players……ever for Trout?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cardinal fans will be unhappy about a Pujols trade

regardless

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But if they had to trade him they should be getting more than 1 player who is a top prospect. Honestly, if Pujols were traded, it should be for some kind of haul like:

Moustakes
Montgomery
Lamb/Dwyer

That might be a little much, but i’m sure that looks something like what the Dodgers and Angels (at the time) would have had to have traded for Miggy or Santana, and Pujols is better than both of them by a good margin, and they were insanely great players.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he’s a free agent in 365 days and will require a 200M contract. If you can get Trout, it might be worth looking into.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are the chances, assuming they are out of contention (terrible city. amazingly hot right around 3:10), that they trade Pujols for whatever stud minor leaguer they can get with the expectation of signing him after the season?

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s the wrong way to evaluate a trade.

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s the right way, but that is how the regular guy will look at it.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cardinal fans would be allowed to murder John Mozeilak’s family if he made that deal.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

so says

the spider

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is where your prospect lust overwhelms your senses and makes you ask irrational things ;P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

Now you get to read 1,000 comments knowing everyone is gone. Work sucks.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

:'(

I’m close to quitting just for posting on TBLA ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought his upside was Mickey Mantle?

oh wait, that’s Bryce Harper

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

and why would they trade for him if they have morales

Thinkblue522 in MLBTradeRumors.com

by Chuy Gutierrez on Nov 3, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because one guy is Morales who just missed most of the year with a broken leg

and the other guy is the greatest hitter in baseball.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but if they were going to trade Trout, they should trade him for a position where they don’t already have a strength. If I’m the Angels, I target Braun.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Wait, what was the question?

Oh, then no.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK ME

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie’s not a team player

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie’s no Bride of Humma

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Josie’s willing to take one for the team, just not any TBLA, er, member.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta keep membership down for overhead reasons

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

That is great.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fire meercat

give Phil a raise.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t curse us now?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to run away for a bit

too much work to be done.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers SF doesn’t say FUCK every other post?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

every post

it’s in his nature and his signature

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I normally don’t swear very much, but this playoffs has brought out the worst in me.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not mad at you or disappointed.

Dodgers SF doesn’t usually swear.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

a capital S

it’s DodgersSF

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josie would fuck one but not the other.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

aww, I make a sex joke and you call me a lesbian. it’s like college again : )

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember the good ole days!

:)

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean to imply pickiness based on gender. That was meant to be more self-deprecating than anything.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

but you’re so valuable, why would you want to depreciate : )

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are different people.

That and having a y chromosone

by Michael White on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

One is cute and lives in SF

the other likes to knock on wood whenever Eric says the race is over

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just in

Josie doesn’t like to knock on wood.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

One cries way more than the other.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

but

which one?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

One has been

quoted on the front page of Dodgers Thoughts, and the other hasn’t.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

One appears

to be dating more than the other, at the moment.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ivdown celebrates later today

knowing he has finally been replaced on the totem pole.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

All it takes is one benign comment about sweatpants?

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey look everyone, white power bill has dirty ears

Dirty ears Bill!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!

Things are coming up Ivdown today, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't Stop Believing just came on my mp3 player

now I have to go buy a new iPod and fix the hole in the wall.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Rockies decline the $4.5M option on Octavio Dotel.

Ned, he’s all yours.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

no comment

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

CONDEMN OR ALLOW?

Pandora just started playing “Crimson and Clover.” I need a ruling….

SHALL I CONDEMN OR SHALL I ALLOW IT?!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Whose version?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prince did one recently

where he combined Crimson and Clover and Wild Thing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy James & The Shondells

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

See

below.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know it. I’m just wasting space.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That shit was reserved for prospect talk only.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you are the only one allowed to consistently call me idiot.

2 days without snuff now. Thought it would be harder than this. I expect when it gets around to Friday and Saturday and I’m either playing golf or watching football that I’ll be tested.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drink more?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah. The more I drink, the more I want to dip.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

based on your previous problems, do you have an addictive personality and is that why you cannot stay away from TBLA?

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that make us managers and editors

pushers?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m supposed to be doing report cards, but this thread is interesting.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently when I’m a TA at Loyola next year, I have to conference with each student about their grade. that sounds like the worst!

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

“When I ranked the class, you were the #9 prospect. Try to show some patience, don’t just write about the first topic you see.”

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I’d move you up the rankings, but I’ve seen you flirt with girls and your K/9 rate is way too high”.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a holistic grader in an atomistic world.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe. I just get in these grooves, both good and bad, that make me do certains shit. I’ve never considered using any kind of drug in the last 10 years. I don’t drink that much anymore. Whenever I’ve decided to quit doing shit, I just stop.

I need to get passed the tobacco, then cut out Mountain Dew (never gonna happen)

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggest crab juice.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

you and Caron butler should start a support group

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He quit and he liked it more than I do!

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

See

hope

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is none

when it comes to quitting dew. i am an addict.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just need to follow your fellow Keith’s footsteps and change your blood.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hang in there!

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you live in Arkansas

so the space you waste is less valuable?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read that as condom or swallow

what is wrong with me?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which version?

if you heard the original when you were 9 then it shall be allowed, if you heard the original when you were 25, then it shall be condemned. Context

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still have a soft spot

for the original Tommy James version. I can pass on Joan Jett.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do have the 45 so I have to allow it

but for anyone under 40, they do not have that reason.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if I get what is a 45

i can ban upto five a minute and I have a loaded gun

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

A loaded .45

I imagine.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the question is, Do I feel lucky?

Well? Do I?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know what a 45 is sir.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know what a 45 is!

I had to go buy my dad one of those LP to mp3 converters so he wouldn’t lose his record collection to age and wear. I told him he should just get the new re-released/remastered versions online, but he likes his clicks and pops and white noise.

When coke was a coke.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someday I'll do the same

if only I had lazy layabout son who had nothing else to do, to do these tedious tasks for me.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

I’m only lazy at work

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always looking for a handout….

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don't have

wax cylinder to mp3 converters though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can picture that single

Orange Roulette Records label, I believe. I can see that one and Crystal Blue Persuasion – my friend’s older brother had those.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once sang

Crystal Blue Persuasion at karaoke!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like I am at a 7th grade dance, holding a girl’s hips at arm’s length, enough space to fit Warren Sapp between us.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow considering our age difference that is quite a bingo

except mine was sixth grade and eventually we all danced to the whole complete version of In A Goda De Vida

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

A cop once told me a story, from years ago

of responding to a shots fired call and finding a suicide scene with the stereo still loudly blaring In a Gadda Da Vida somewhere near the inner groove.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to imagine there were at least five other completely identical scenes across the country over a span of five years. that’s just too cinematic not be repeated

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Tommy kept his songwriter rights

he made some good change when Joan Jett, Billy Idol and Tiffany all had hits close together with his old tunes.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

then he got into coke, moved to Vegas, killed a hooker

and now goes by Tommy Blackjack

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

no court

can prove that :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I cite 852(a)

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

circumstantial

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idiot

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Lopez

what’s the opinion here of him? I ask because MLBTR says his option was declined, and he could be non-tendered. I remember he had a pretty good 09, but contributed to #6org’s 2010 season of PAIN.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Stay the fuck away.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Get him and then trade him for Jon Danks” – Dave Cameron.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe not

just checked his B-ref page. guy can’t take a walk. Moving on!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Lopes and Joel Guzman

were both 19 year old AA shortstops with high expectations. They were both born on 11/24. They both had power.

Except one was 19 and the other was 20. But still kind of amazing they both ended up sucking wind.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Judging from U.S.S. Mariner, Lopez is the most hated M since Vidro.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think she is wearing a WWJD bracelet.

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 3, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was my first observation, plus she’s wearing a cross

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of commenters here

would mind introducing her to her inner freaky side.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

all christian girls have one, I was a daily prayer before I went to Berkeley

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

as a cradle Catholic, I know this.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Chili Davis
Meanwhile, former major league outfielder Chili Davis, who served as an instructor at the Dodgers’ Instructional League program for a few weeks this fall, is no longer a candidate for the secondary hitting instructor’s job, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5757587

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Matt Kemp is doomed.

by Alex41592 on Nov 3, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Money quote

on why John Moses had his exodus:

They said it was because [Dodgers prospect] Xavier Paul didn’t improve in the outfield,‘’ said Moses, who also had the responsibility of working with outfielders at the Dodgers’ Triple-A Albuquerque affiliate. "I was shocked, let’s put it that way. A lot of people were. I think the job I did spoke for itself, if you look at the things that happened offensively over the last three years. … But the way I look at it is, it’s their loss.’’

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to be a hitting coach

whose job security depended on how my batters’ stats for Albuquerque!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

the only thing I can add to that is that the one game I did this year, the major league coaches were working with Paul in the outfield. I remember thinking, shouldn’t he know all that shit by now.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRING BACK MIKE EASLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fuckin love the Chili Peppers

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Easily my favorite song to play on guitar….well that and Cherub Rock

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 3, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Acoustic, rhythm or bass?

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serrano?

Habanero?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

The ones above your post

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flea

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flea is pretty sweet

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Works for me.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

he just learned it

he’s happy he learned something new!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

was that on Around the Horn? They love him on around the horn

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They love him because he has the LAT logo behind him making him look nationally credible, but he says enough stupid shit that he keeps the arguments going.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defensive versatility!

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really liked him

do you remember the over the shoulder diving catch he made?

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

212 AB, 22 HBP. Has the single season record with only 162 AB.

Greatest useless reserve ever.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I remember that

he was Ron Hunt like but even more so

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball Reference has facebook integration?

for fucking really?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

o rly?

What does it do?

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just noticed that

you can now “like” your favorite player.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

for some reason

my mind drifts to Cold Stones, where you can’t order small-medium-large, you have to chose between Like it-Love It-Gotta Have It

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame Starbucks

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Favorite

Founders Favorite® Sweet Cream ice cream with brownie, pecans, fudge and caramel

http://rockingham.va.golookon.com/listings/cold_stone/cold_stone-menu.html

This is the closest taste ice cream wise to the Kool A Cooooooooooooo

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take a Gotta Have It Strawberry.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

please don't tip

I don’t want to have to sing…again (stupid high school job) But when I worked at Cold Stone’s we had smalls and larges! Also we had black and white ice cream shoppe decor not brown starbucks interiors

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a big tipper anyway.

::sound the alarm::

:)

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

I always figured you as a “just the tip” player.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

just to see how it feels?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

though after silverwidow puts his tip in the jar, there’s never any singing

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

just a bunch of muffled “thanks dick” comments….

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am working on a cheapest TBLA commenter countdown too.

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not win this

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends

on whether or not delias man adjusts for cost of living

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point taken. I generally tip at 20%. I bet silverwidow has never done that!

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I haven’t. 15% even pains me.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have to click on it to know what that is……

Great scene….

I got 2 words for ya Learn to Fuckin Type

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tip based on service and refills mostly. i don’t tip a percentage because I don’t think what I order should affect the service. If I order filet mignon for $30 or a burger for $10, what did the waitress do differently? Nothing. Why would they get 4.50 instead of 1.50 because I ordered a nicer meal.

On the flip side, I tip as much for water refills as I do alcohol or soda, so although my water isn’t adding to the bill, I’m tacking on tip in my head. It tends to work out.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a lot of work.

by LA Taco on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its like a fun game

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

how hard can it be?

You bring me a refill, I’m appreciative, I’ll tip more.
You don’t bring me a refill, I’m upset, I’ll tip less.

What they are refilling my glass with shouldn’t matter, should it? Is it more effort to refill soda than water? Is it harder to bring out a steak instead of a burger? No.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to self: never go to TBLA restaurant night.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

All that counting how many times you get your glass refilled sounds taxing. I guess if you want to save money on tips, you can just sip slowly.

by LA Taco on Nov 3, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who says he is counting?

If your glass is empty for a annoying long time, then thats bad service.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

no counting. But you know if you’ve been taken care of and if you’ve been ignored. I just don’t use the total of the bill to determine how much tip the wait staff gets because the value of my meal does not affect their effort levels.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I go out with Bride and Spawn (Folly is too young to eat), the check comes to about $40ish.

15% of $40 is $6. 20% fo $40 is $8. We are talking about two dollars here.

So I shut the fuck up and I give the two dollars to somebody who probably needs two dollars a little more than I do.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I generally feel that tipping a little nicer makes very little tangible difference to me but maybe would help make a waiter’s day or something. It’s all about intangibles.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is quite interesting

I’m not sure I’ve heard that common sense approach to tipping. It does effect the waiter however, who gets less because you’d rather eat a 10.00 burger in a place that sells a $30 steak. The biggest thing to take from tipping is that is their income and pays not only the waiter/waitress but the bussboy. Plus they now get taxed based on the assumption they get that 15% tip.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its also important to note that waiters in restaurants that sell $30 steaks tend to be more knowledgeable and better trained than their counterparts shoving $10 burgers at people.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the tax thing is BS. not that I don’t believe you, but that it exists.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can blame all the waiters that came before them I suppose

for not reporting

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you worked in any restaurant

where you have wait staff, you will always be sure to tip at least 15%.

by bhsportsguy on Nov 3, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems odd that you are responding to my comment

with that comment. Either way 99 percent of the time I try to tip well, but if the service is just awful then the tip will suffer. I try to be understanding if its god awful.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

god awfully busy

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only ever delivered pizzas, so I always felt like any tip I got was more than I should have been paid.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate delivery drives

no, not really, but in my 5 years of working in a pizzaria the drivers were generally the whiniest of the whiny, especially about their tips. I mean come on guys, you get paid extra to sit in your car and listen to music, while other people are actually busting their humps in the store.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mostly made boxes and blared music

but delivering pizzas for the Hermosa Beach Round Table makes tips go up. Not only is the pizza super expensive, making anyone who tips by % to give me too much money, but it’s all rich shits who want to flaunt their money. On an average night I pulled in $100 bucks in a 4 hour shift. The day USC played Texas in the national championship I almost pulled in 300 bucks in 6 hours.

FYI don’t order pizza on Monday nights. It’ll take forever. American Idol + MNF = 90 minutes for pizza.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

we where always dead on Mondays. We weren’t a big chain though, just a ma and pop operation, though we did pretty good.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

So in your opinion driving

is not working just as hard as you guys making a pizza?

 It would seem to me that anyone who got a tip for delivering pizza should be splitting that tip with those who took the order and those who made the pizza.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not an opinion

its a fact! I mean I drove plenty myself when need be, and honestly would have chosen to do it more if I could have, but I wsa needed in the store more.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I can say

sitting in my car for 15 minutes on my way to the house was easier then answering phones, making salads, cleaning tables etc.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had to make a salad anytime someone ordered one

hardest part of the job, and the most frustrating because your pizzas would come out and be hot and you’d realize you needed a salad so you had to hurry. if you took your time making the salad your pizzas would get cold and not only would you not get a tip, you had to spend the next 40 minutes driving back to the store, wait for their order to be remade thend rive their free order back, then drive back to the store and wait for your next delivery.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We would make the delivery salads if we could

Which was almost always. Most of my drivers where good enough chaps that I could grab them if need be and have them help in the store in between deliveries if it came to it.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The cooks and cashiers had a tip jar in the restaurant that they split the tips from customers who ate in the restaurant. Drivers kept all their tips. We were asked to report them but most either didn’t or reported a lower figure.

If I got 2 bucks for the delivery or 4-5 for being faster than the estimated time then great. Anything over that was excess which I usually tried to turn down, but like I said our delivery area was Manhattan beach, hermosa beach, Redondo Beach so people flaunted their money a bit.

Drivers usually get money per mile (usualy like 75c or a delivery fee on top of each order), so it’s not like I needed extra tip to cover my gas.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cooks and Cashiers

would get about 20 bucks every 2 weeks in tips. i’d make 20 dollars an hour.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

At my store we conceeded all tips to the cooks

they worked far harder then us and had to do all the shit jobs like cleaning the bathrooms and washing dishes.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to self:

Never share a check with silverwidow.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tip your servers people

unless the service is horribly and ridiculously botched. You should understand that in our society, this is part of deal you signed up for when you decided to eat in a full-service restaurant instead of cooking your own food.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends on service

There has been at least once where I wanted to tip negative.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve left my fair share of zeroes when the food and/or service was horrible.

Sorry.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It all depends on what the threshold for horrible is

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m suddenly understanding the love of the McRib

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here’s what I can’t figure out. Just a few weeks ago somebody posts the picture of mechanically separated chicken and everybody gets grossed out.

But everyone loves the McRib, which contains mechanically separated pork.

Resolve this hopeless contradiction for me.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

People were grossed out by that? That picture just made me want to go out and buy some chicken mcnuggets!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this explains many of the reasons that your signature says what it says.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that the signature says Jose passed on you. Sounds kinky.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because deep in our hearts we all love mechanically separated meat.

It’s kinda like Toto.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you made it into a vaguely familiar shape and coated it in BBQ sauce for the low low cost of 2.99 sure.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I ate dog in Korea. I had it for 4 days in a row. Didn’t know it was dog until some nice woman told me one day.

FTR, it was awesoke.

I couldn’t eat it anymore when I found out it was puppy.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don't call Chows

Chow Chow in China because they wear bows.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if it was mechanically seperated.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

But everyone loves the McRib, which contains mechanically separated pork.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think Eric loves McRibs. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are probably judging the service you received

too harshly compared to your expectations when you rated the waitress prospects upon stepping in the door.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silverwidow’s k/9 is way too high. Cut down on the strikeouts then we’ll talk.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate tip inflation. At some point its going to be 50% of the bill.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

True it is crazy

it has gone from like 15% to 18-20% in my 50 years.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is odd, because I remember it was 10% at some point.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel comfortable saying that in the last 25 years, 10% has never ever ever been an acceptable tip amount.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also don’t remember below 15% in my lifetime

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I usually tip at least about 20 percent when I can (which is most often)

One time I only had like 85 cents and I felt bad even leaving just that, but it’s all I had left, lol.

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by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was like a 15 dollar meal, btw

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by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

you’d rather not sing then make extra money? Interesting, now I understand the glower I’d get after I tipped. They should have a singing tip can and a non singing tip can because I’m pretty sure that 90% of the patrons do not want to hear the singing.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There really should be labor laws against that sort of thing.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate the places that have three sizes

Medium, Large and Extra-Large.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate places where the sizes start at small

but the small is what a medium was 5 years ago, and a medium is gigantic. So basically, everywhere.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Jack in the Box started this

they made a small a medium to both make you think they gave better value and so that when you habitually ordered a medium expecting a 21oz drink you’d get an extra 8 ounces and they’d make an extra 40 cents per customer for a few months.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought it was Carls

but I almost nevr used to go to Jacks.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t remember if it was Jack or Carl, but they both do it now. I think you’re right in it being Carl’s Jr.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda funny

I was talking to my friend from Canada and he was pissed because the Wendys up there have been the first places in Canada to implement a similar sizing system.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

or you get a small, and there’s no way in hell that’s 8 oz

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

we go the other direction

I ignore the labels and order the biggest damn size you got.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s free advertising, there’s no reason not to.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

dignity

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I don’t even own a TV!

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It costs money to do what Sean Forman does there

I don’t begrudge him this.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally

If baseball geeks had a sainthood, Sean Forman would be on my short list

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Foreman got somebody to buy shares of his company for millions of dollars. He and money are tight.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

In February 2009, Fantasy Sports Ventures took a minority stake in Sports Reference, the parent company of Baseball-Reference, for a “low seven-figure sum.”3 In reporting this transaction, journalist Eric Fisher wrote,

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good things do happen

to good people.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

and I guess I’ll stop feeling guilty for never sponsoring a page there.

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

has nothing to do with dignity

and everything to do with getting your website’s name on the wall of 350 million users multiple times a day

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beat me to the punch!

Foiled again

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really thought he was toast after last season. His legs looked shot.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels and Rangers should swap DH's

I wonder if Tampa will call. Money going to be tight for the Manny’s, Matzui, Vlady’s of the world?

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hideki had a better year than Vlad. There’s not much reason to swap.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah I picked the wrong time of day to have a haircut appt

in San Francisco. At least it wasn’t downtown. Far away but had to deal with Giants (please leave the s there in any requote) Dicks on public transport. Grumbled and muttered all the way home.

bunch of bandwagoners….

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by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Ryne Sandberg has apparently left the Cubs organization after not getting the managers job with the big club

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Is he now the favorite to be the next

White Sox manager, a la Mike Scioscia?

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only Ozzie Guillen would be controversial and do or say something stupid and piss off the ownership of the Sox.

That’ll never happen!

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

One was a HOF 2nd baseman for his team

the other was a heavy catcher who never let anyone score and hit a lucky home run off of the original Doc.

Did Sandberg ever manage in the Cubs minor leagues? Seems the “great” players think they are above that.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he was their AAA manager

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worked his way up from single a
After the 2006 season, Sandberg was named manager of the Class-A Peoria Chiefs in the Midwest League. Following two seasons with Peoria, Sandberg was promoted to manager of the Double-A Tennessee Smokies, and the next year was named manager of the Triple-A Iowa Cubs. Sandberg was named Pacific Coast League Manager of the Year in 2010.6

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does seem really lame

Oh you worked really hard in a way that completely suggested we thought you could be the next coach, and won an award because you where doing such a good job? No we don’t think you are right for the job.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blame Pinella. He doesn’t quit early, Quade doesn’t get the interim job, Sandberg has a better chance.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah fuck that guy

who gives a shit about their mother anyways :-p

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Delias Man sooo wants to reply to this

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

“ITS NOT RYAN ITS RYNE”

by delias man on Nov 3, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

I had no idea what Eric meant until that showed up. No one here can get upset at my spelling adventures, someone told me it was part of my timeless charm. Plus WTF RYNE, or is your son named RYNE and if so WHY? Where is Mat Latos when you need him.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is Mat Latos when you need him.

Hanging with Cla Meredith.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

O……………….K……………………….

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you pissed because I just gave a Beatles song the old thumbs down on Pandora?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on which one.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honey Pie’s pretty bad.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a huge Beatles fan, but even I only have about 75 on MP3 player.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was Hey Jude.

doesn’t matter to me, they all get the ax.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Beatles are the most underrated band of all time.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess….

/shakes head

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such an influential band that they are hard to overrate

although Rolling Stone managed to do so anyway

Rolling Stone the ESPN of rock magazines…

by Sean P. on Nov 3, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be like saying Babe Ruth is under-rated

I’d say the Kinks are the most underrated band who stuck around for 20 years.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just my go to line when I want to sound like a music snob.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it’s a damn fine line too!

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

They sing anything I would know?

:)

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I listened to the whole thing.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite Christmas Song

as you’d expect from Captain Crankypants

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you heard

“Fairytale of New York” by Kirsty MacColl / The Pogues?

Now THAT is a cranky Christmas song.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet

but I expect to in a minute. Loved the Pogues.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a Blue Christmas by Elvis fan.

I also like That Spirit of Christmas by Ray Charles.

Neither are cranky

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bing always gets me in the christmas spirit

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Nov 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Underrated by whom?

They sold a ton of albums and were inducted into the RnR HOF in their first year of eligibility.

by Sean P. on Nov 3, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

by about 99% of the public

they never sold a ton of albums, they sold enough to keep making more. Most people couldn’t name you one song by them other then You Really got Me and Lola.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinks

Ray Davies is the best songwriter of the rock era, bar none.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better then Fred Durst???????????????????

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was considering saying that Davies was the best songwriter of the 20th Century

but that might be overstatement.

George Gershwin, Hoagy Carmichael, Cole Porter, and Johnny Mercer might be better. Frank Loesser too, I suppose. But Ray Davies is in the converation. Bob Dylan is also in the conversation but I’ll take Davies.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

From wikipedia

“The Kinks had five Top 10 singles on the US Billboard chart. Nine of their albums charted in the Top 40. In the UK, the group had seventeen Top 20 singles along with five Top 10 albums.”

by Sean P. on Nov 3, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is not that great

when you consider they made 25 albums. Overall they sold a ton of albums but that is because they made 25, but five top 10 out of 25 is not something a record company was making money off of.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Nick Drake barely sold 5,000 albums in his lifetime.

Ray Davies has nothing to complain about.

by Sean P. on Nov 3, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one said he did.

just don’t tell me they aren’t under – rated, they are.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Big Star's cover

of “Till the End of the Day”…but the Kinks were ace…Sunny Afternoon is one of my faves.

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by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll put in votes for

Waterloo Sunset and Better Things.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You old people

need to get a room

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get off

my lawn

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

36 is the new 24

and "young’ people use the YouTubes too, thus they can listen to the Kinks as well

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by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that make me 25 the new 25 then?

(please say yes, please say yes)

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

25?

If I live that long I might just have to kill myself

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

you'll never get dementia

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by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too soon?

I think not.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

never

not for a classless bunch like this

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by Pure Azure on Nov 3, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolander says that 25 is the new 16

I don’t even know what that means, but I hope it’s funny

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

shit!

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just remember whatever room we get you will be paying for

 for the rest of your lives. I love you hate that.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't hate that

I’m all for socialized medicine. I hate the mismanagement of those resources thats going to leave them pilfered by the time I’m 30.

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprised it took that long for someone to mention Waterloo Sunset.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweetest harmonies

from people without good voices.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better Things is awesome

we have done this conversation before and Shangri-La is my favorite.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Kink's concert song?

Victoria. And the then maybe Apeman…

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by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 3, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing that their best concert song is probably Lola. Yeah, I lose points for naming one of their most famous songs, but c’mon, it’s Lola.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having seen them over a dozen times

Lola got the crowd going the most. There were times when the Kinks put on some stinky shows, but there were other times they were the best live band I’ve seen. You just never knew which Ray Davies was going to show up, the petulance prince or the kick ass rocker.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That said, some band should totally do a cover of Victoria. That song owns.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want those pants

Man, those are great.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youtube is the greatest thing

since sliced bread.
I’ve just heard five versions of Shangri-La. I may need to cut back my TBLA commenting.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Humma

if still around. Ray Davis doing Shangri-LA at the Orpheum a year ago. I was pissed I missed that show but lot of good video up on it.

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by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

be careful what you wish for

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=victoria+cover&aq=f

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddamnit

disregard that, just a bunch of people covering jon mayer

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by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Son of a B, Keith.

This is why I wasn’t a fan, BTW :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put the pistol down sir!

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm thinking you did not see

Across the Universe:)

Do you at least like Happy Birthday?

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Jude is not a likeable song to you?

WTF is wrong with you, sir? Well, besides the obvious of living in Arkansas.

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by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea “Got to Get You Into My Life” was about pot smoking into recently.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good horn section, iirc.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I’d have to say “Paperback Writer” has my favorite bass line.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds also had to do with drug use, FYI. :)

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to make some kind of grandiose Diamond Leung pun that would garner multiple rec’s and make me feel like Humma at 5pm, but I just can’t.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love the Beatles.

I think Honey Pie is pretty good. I like John’s little solo.

FUCKKKKK

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Save that for the girl chat rooms

no here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book.

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sporky hates me?!?!?!?!?!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't listen to Captain Crankypants there

You’ll find the Dodger girl of your dreams soon enough.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Signatures for all!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was shorter than my original idea which doesn't roll off the tongue as much

Curmudgeon McCranky.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve already played the “Mc” card with Slappy McPopup. Plus the “Mc” may invoke memories of McC, and that’s no good.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or McRibs

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I should tell the wife we are going to McDs

for our 6th anniversary tonight because of the McRib.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really class it up, buy the McRibs at McDs, and then go to Norms for the Bigger Better Breakfast.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or you could buy a 5 dollar footlong.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could walk down to subway

and pick up a McRib on the way….

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pretty much live on Subway and McRibs.

Sue me. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and split it

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did Mr F apparently

LOL

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This offseason seems to be moving pretty quickly. I like the new 5 day FA period.

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Rockies decline Miguel Olivo AND Jeff Francis

Ned is salivating.

Oh wait, I said that already. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

God dammit we’re getting Miguel Olivo aren’t we?

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd time is the charm!

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind Olivo, Francis and Branyan coming over.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Rockies don't want to pay Olivo $2.7mm?

I guess they are banking on Iannetta, but if Olivo costs less than $3mm, then Russell better get non-tendered and signed for less $3mm.

by BFDC on Nov 3, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently everyone now a FA is a Ned guy these days?

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by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you implying Ned Colletti is a slut?

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You misspelled "suit"

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by underdog on Nov 3, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned does love his relievers.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking at the #7 voting

we’re a fickle group, myself included. Withrow had a bad year, but damn it if he isn’t still on a fast track.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

We’re trading him to the Pirates?

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do they have any other shitty relievers who ned would overrate?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evan Meek was an all star reliever with a 4.6 BB/9 raate.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not shitty, but maybe Ned will target Old Friend Joel Hanrahan.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its an over value. This is the first year where he shown something. He’s 28 and going to start entering arbitration after next year.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

His K rate is ridic.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its 7.7 for his career, and 7.9 last year.

Either you’re thinking of somebody else, or you’re more easily impressed than I thought. Its good, but not amazing from a reliever.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joel was awesome last year

and had some good runs with Nat’s, I’d welcome him, not as a closer but as a solid piece of the bullpen. I would much rather have traded for him then Dotel since he’d still be on the team.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for accuracy

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone here ever been Julian apple picking?

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was a kid my mother required me participate in that god-awful activity with a frequency I found to be less than ideal. I suspect, given my description of what is a rather pleasant day with the family, that I harbor some negative feelings because of this.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

I ask because my wife wants to go, so I said we would go this Saturday to celebrate our Dating Anniversary, and I want the inside scoop.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see how it would be nice as an adult with a willing companion. I found it indescribably horrible when I was a captive teenager dragging behind my parents. But Julian is cool enough to wander around for awhile.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could imagine

Any place can be made horrible in that sense.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is Julian?

I grew up in upstate New York so of course I went apple picking, but I don’t know what Julian apple picking is.

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by Humma Kavula on Nov 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take the 5, turn left at the Animal Park (Ramona) and go East for a while. High up in the mountains, alot of it was burned a few years ago.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its a small town/village/community in San Diego county that is kind of famed for growing apples and selling antiques.

by prosellis on Nov 3, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went with my grandparents when I was younger. I had a good time. We went and picked apples, apricots and I want to say walnuts or something.

Apples was probably my favorite, but you’ll get a little disgusted at how many really good looking apples have worms in them.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as it being a dating type experience

seems like it would be nice. If we’re talking about the same thing, you end up kind of alone and secluded in an apple orchard.

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great with a gf

requires self-entertainment if you’re with your grandmother.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I set em up

Humma knocks em down.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been looking for a place to take the girlfriend for a weekend

Any chance you have a link to this place? Otherwise I’m going to end up showing her Vegas for the first time, and I don’t really know enough about vegas to make that worthwhile.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

its not that hard to show someone Vegas for the first time. Just wander around looking at all the pretty lights.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now we’re debating between Blue Man Group (my choice) and Cirque du Soleil (hers).

My mom has some timeshare time banked so we’d be getting a 1 bedroom suite for 4 days for about 100 bucks, which is nice, but I just want to make sure that’s where I should take her. It’s not a special holiday for us or anything, I just want to treat her to something nice. It’s been 5+ years and now that I’m “working” full time I don’t get to see her as much as I should.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go see Love. It is excellent

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 3, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Nov 3, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I started to look it up and remembered my wife talking about it.

She wanted to see it. I told her I would buy 2 tickets and she could take anyone but me.

We had a running joke when we were in casinos….She would say “ooh, can I ask him?”

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next time I’m in Vegas, I’ll call and y’all can go.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wanted to when we went

but we didn’t want to spend the money on a show(poor just married young couple) and my parents didn’t tell us until we where halfway there they would pay for any show we wanted to see, which of course, where all already sold out.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw it a couple months ago and I agree

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if the Lion King is any good in Vegas

but it was awesome in New York.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plays like that in Vegas

are almost always shortened somewhat. Vegas likes to get you in and out of shows within a certain time frame.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

One is not like the other

The Cabin at Strawberry Hill is a secluded place in Julian, run by quiet people who don’t like people very much, the other is ……….

Vegas

http://www.artistsloft.com/

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too would like to know

where this mystic chalet is.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA Night!

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by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

but I’ve been to Julian and had their apple cider, apple pie. Great apples. I expect the picked apples are going to be awesome.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So basically it says that we got Pods for a decent price if he comes back, but shouldn’t be starting.

Sweet

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The kind of quality analysis we’ve come to expect from Fangraphs.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all the fancy numbers they pass out

their conclusions seem off.

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I’m understanding they’re saying this.

Scott Podsednik is a decent 4th outfielder, just maybe not the best one for the Dodgers. However, you shouldn’t pay a 4th outfielder 1.9 million because they won’t generate 1.9 million worth of value in 200 AB.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of that is about right.

They don’t like him as a 4th outfielder though. Because he can only play LF

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The hazards of paying on a per post basis.

by regfairfield on Nov 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

Great price and a decent player. He needs to play everyday to prove his worth, but he sucks kinda.

Oh, and he can’t be the 4th OFer because he and I have equal range. Even though he is fast as hell.

Kelly Stephen will get a kick out of hearing that shit out his limited OF range.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice breakdown but I'm confused on a few points
There are some other issues to consider. For this to really be a "good" deal for LA, Podsednik needs to play pretty much the whole season.
Given the Dodgers’ current hole in left field and their potential to contend, picking up Podsednik’s option as a safety net isn’t a terrible idea as long as he isn’t Plan A. As for Podsednik, while he has proved he can still be a bit useful in the right situation, he shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

It would seem this is only a good deal if he plays alot but they then say he’s isn’t a terrible idea if he is not plan A. Wouldn’t he have to be a Plan A to play alot?

Captain Crankypants

by meercatjohn on Nov 3, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

save your money.

Durantilla and Westbrook are gonna roll.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

EJ and Westbrook should be a pretty awesome match up.

by Julio Nievas on Nov 3, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gordonzilla ate your Durantilla for dinner

and Bledsoe ran all over Westbrook.

BOOHA

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 4, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

My boss isn’t going to be happy today. Thanks Clippers.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

But

not because the Clippers won, but because the Thunder lost. It was a pretty entertaining game though. Maybe this whole Clippers basketball thing is gonna be worth watching?

/jumps on bandwagon early.

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by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

I forgot she’s out of town today. Not only did she grow up spending time with Various Lakers in the 80s, she lives next to Russ Westbrook and her kids are best friends with him. I’m sure she’s upset but she’s a real basketball fan so I’m sure if given the opportunity she’d tell him how terrible he played last night.

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by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then he will get a raise!

by Eric Stephen on Nov 4, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

#3 TCU and #5 Utah

square off this week and you will need CBS-college sports to see it.

LMAO

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

If TCU and Utah

face off on the back end of cable, will any coaches watch it?

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

TCU is legit, according my college coach buddy . . .

by kinbote on Nov 3, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pods

The AP report has more specific info, noting that if Podsednik declines the option he does not get the $100,000 buyout.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

The comment on top is the best. Not talking about the story of course, the GM that posted his way to fix the Dodgers.

That was funny stuff.

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny stuff
Good start, now bring in Guerrero and Beltre, each on $15mil, two year contracts, along with say Lee on a 4 year $60mil deal, re-acquire Beimel, re-acquire Izturis to play SS until Gordon learns D while moving Furcal to 2B to cut game losing errors in half, resign Kuroda for two more years at about $12mil, and give 5 year extensions to Either, Billingsley, and Kershaw, and we’ll know you’re finally ready to win some baseball games. Total cost: about $50million annually (less than the amount of budget cuts over last 5 years).

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is monumentally stupid

and unrealistic to boot.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

on so many levels.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to see Bearface land on his feet.

by Alex41592 on Nov 3, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old Bearface.

Ah the good ole days

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t even know we were calling him old bear *sniff

by Josie Becker on Nov 3, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

That’s the 2nd great AR quote I’ve seen from you today, it’s helped make my day less shitty.

“You better check your lease, because you’re living in…FUCK CITY!”

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miguel Olivo + Rod Barajas would be cost less than Russ Martin right?

Isnt this a no brainer that the Dodgers non-tender Martin and sign those two?

If Olivo isnt worth 2.7mils (and the Rox have determined he isnt)….how can anyone reasonably expect Russ Martin to be offered arbitration?

There seems to be market shift in what catchers are worth.

by Joey Joe on Nov 3, 2010 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Eh

just because one or two teams won’t pay that, doesn’t mean the whole market has shifted.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the Rockies determined is that they didn’t want to pay $5.05 million for both catchers next season. Chris Iannetta is already under contract for $2.55 million. Olivo’s option is for $2.5 million (with a $500,000 buyout).

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

@DPLennon David Lennon
Also, Yu Darvish bailed on jump to MLB this year because getting divorced. Plans to come to U.S. for ’12 season, which helps #Mets chances.

That sucks. Darvish’s wife was hot.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 8:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this the dude that Silverwidow is in love with?

by keithc13 on Nov 3, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darvish is Tripon’s baby.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the moment, I’m more interested in his soon to be ex-wife.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if divorce laws in Japan are similar to US?

by Joey Joe on Nov 3, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he married a porn star?

by Joey Joe on Nov 3, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

regular actress actually. She’s playing in what amounts to a day time soap.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that how Dental Assistants dress over there? That is one way to get people to the dentist

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 4, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The posting fee won’t be as high as Dice-K. And Scott Boras won’t be his agent.

I’m guessing $60-70 million total, including posting fee.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only 70 million for a pitcher that can pitch a screw ball?

by Julio Nievas on Nov 3, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

among about 5 others

including a mid to high 90s fastball

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

from Wikipedia
In NPB he throws a four-seam fastball that usually sits around 146 to 151 km/h (91 to 94 mph) and tops out at 156 km/h (97 mph) {Only 1 pitch measured 161 km/h (100 mph) in World Baseball Classic final in 2009} as well as a hard slider with a vicious break.3738 He complements these two with a wide repertoire of secondary pitches, including a two-seam fastball (sometimes described as a shuuto), a curveball, splitter, cutter and changeup.

it also says there he stopped throwing his screwball due to the strain it put on his shoulder.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured

you’d be all over this.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll never have another hot woman as long as he lives.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 3, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saw this on a Pujols trade discussion thread
The Dodgers still remain the best shot of Pujols to land. They can offer Clayton Kershaw who would interest the Cardinals a lot. A really good, young left hander who is cost controlled for many years. Would make an excellent 1-2 punch for years to come with Adam Wainwright.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

This sounds so dumb. The Dodgers are not trading Kershaw.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

probably the one guy I wouldn’t trade for Pujols

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 3, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clayton for one year of Pujols

would be monumentally stupid. Even an overzealous Card fan must know that

Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!

by MammothDodger on Nov 3, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is that even from?

Source your quotes people.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would if it was from an actual news source. This is just a fan and was posted here for comic relief.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a waste of time.

If it’s not worth linking, don’t quote it.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is untradeable.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like him being on the Cardinals, he seems like a tremendous fit on that team

But if they could pillage the Royals farm they should likely do it. Get back Hosmer or Moustakes as the starting point, then likely 2 of their 4 best SP prospects and a couple of lower prospects and they will be in business. It would have to come with an extension most likely for it to make any sense, or a window that is.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet the Royals wouldn't do that

because they would be throwing away their future to barely miss the playoffs anyways.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true. The Royals built up their system to actually use it on the field unlike so many other teams.

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t think there’s really any perfect fit for a trade for Pujols.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would the Royals do that for one year of Pujols?

Now, would you trade Clayton for Pujols if it meant locking up Pujols for 5 years?

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 4, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Pujols is traded it would be a 5 percent chance (if that good) that he would not be extended right away

But then they could just wait a year and sign him anyway.

Basically, the point is that, thinking about it now, Nolander is right and pujols is basically untradeable.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 4, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

DPLennon David Lennon
Friday at 5 p.m. is posting deadline for Japanese RHP Hishashi Iwakuma. We’ll see if #Mets jump into international market quickly.

by Tripon on Nov 3, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Ditto.

Here’s to even more prospect breakouts in ’11!

by silverwidow on Nov 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

and awesoke.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 3, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck

I’m laying on my bed reading minorleagueball.com, and a freakin big spider runs on my bed right next to me and all I can do is move my shit so it doesn’t get on anything else and I lose it running behind my bed. I’m paranoid as shit right now.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 11:29 PM PDT reply actions  

No need to worry

Worst case scenario is that you get bitten and become Spiderman 3.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 3, 2010 11:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

NOOOOO

lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 3, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow

that just fits

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

by nolander on Nov 3, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I hate that

Happened to me a month ago, I found it and killed the S.O.B.

by Julio Nievas on Nov 4, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

An hour later I was about to walk out of my room and I saw the bastard on the wall by the floor

I had a tennis racket just sitting there and it’s like it was using it as cover…sneaky…

I was able to move it and club it with my shoe, haha.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 4, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rat

One time when I was an RA in college, one of my guys had a rat run in his room…big one. The damn thing disappeared and we spent an hour and a half tearing the room apart. Turned out the rat had scurried up the keyboard cord and was hiding in the pull out keyboard slot.

by robotmadeofnails on Nov 4, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keith has inspired me

to download some Beatles songs tonight, among some others. I’m downloading Abbey Road as we speak. I’ll be listening to a bunch of Beatles songs at work tomorrow now :)

I also thought it would be cool to see what song is everyone’s favorite Beatles song. Mine as a kid was Ticket To Ride, but now it’s Let It Be.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Nov 4, 2010 1:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Top 5 Favorite Beatles Songs

Chronological:

“You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away” – Help! (1965)
“Norwegian Wood” – Rubber Soul (1965)
“Paperback Writer” – Past Masters Vol. 2 (1966)
“A Day in the Life” – Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
“Something” – Abbey Road (1969)

The first two are my favorite “Dylan”-style songs the Beatles ever put out. Paperback has a guitar riff that just blows me away. A.D.I.T.L. is an epic masterpiece and the last one is George’s finest work.

by silverwidow on Nov 4, 2010 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible to say--I'll invoke the silverwidow five rule

“In My Life”
“Within You Without You”
“Across the Universe”
“Blackbird”
“Fixing a Hole”

by kinbote on Nov 4, 2010 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of the 10 songs the two of you posted

I’ve heard of Paperback Writer.

I have like 30 songs, and instead of being upset that I don’t know these ones, I’m excited that there are new songs out there.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

My 5 year old son's top five

“Drive My Car”
“Octopus’s Garden”
“Yellow Submarine”
“Norweigan Wood” (he also likes the Cornershop version)
“Eleanor Rigby”

by kinbote on Nov 4, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt he gets 6 years, but I expect it to push closer to 5y/$115-125

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The biggest red flag is his age.

by kinbote on Nov 4, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the Cubs are out on Dunn

said they’re going after Nick Johnson types and are planning on reducing payroll.

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

per MLBTR

Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.

by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

NCPOT

I’m going to let this run up top until Brandon puts out the next prospect vote. The votes is so close he is going to let it run until noon.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/4/1793556/gordonzilla-throws-down-the-gauntlet-delivered-by-bledsoe

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 4, 2010 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

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