Dodgers 2011 #9 Prospect Chat
In yet another very close vote, Chris Withrow edged out Allen Webster for the Dodgers #7 prospect. Because the vote was so close and because nobody else got much support, I’m going to go ahead and award the #8 prospect spot to Webster. Thus far, the TBLA Prospect List looks like:
1. Jerry Sands
3. Zach Lee
4. Rubby De La Rosa
6. Dee Gordon
7. Chris Withrow
8. Allen Webster
Not a bad top 8 if I do say so myself. We’ve got three-fifths of a rotation, a closer, a shortstop, a center fielder, and a versatile 1B/outfielder
This round, I’m going to add in a few names. I’ve heard Ivan De Jesus suggested a few times, so I’m going to add him. I also feel like Scott Elbert could get some support despite his lost 2010 season. Finally, I’m also throwing Garrett Gould, Kyle Russell, Nathan Eovaldi, and Brian Cavazos-Galvez into the mix. With the new diverse group to chose from, the next few votes should be pretty interesting. Feel free to continue suggesting names because I’ll still going to continue adding names. We are going to continue voting using the comment method, so refer to the fanpost and submit your vote in the comments. I’m going to leave this vote open for approximately 24 hours, which should give everyone a chance to vote.
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The round 9 candidates (ages as of 2011 opening day):
Aaron Miller (23.5 years old) LHP – Was great in the California league, but struggled during his 23 innings in AA. He doesn’t throw real hard, generally working in the low 90’s, but he has great control. He also has a power slider and is working on a changeup.
Ethan Martin (21.75 years old) RHP – Martin had terrible stats in 2010, but his stuff is still solid. He throws in the mid 90’s, occasionally hitting 98, and has a big breaking curveball. He also has a developing changeup, and is still just 21 years old. His biggest problem last season related to the fact that his fastball lacked movement, so he needs to improve that as well as the mental aspect of his game.
Jonathan Garcia (19.25 years old) OF – Garcia played the entire 2010 season as an 18 year old and posted some very solid stats. The only caveat to his .305 average and 10 homers is that he did most of his damage at home in the Raptors hitter friendly park. He’s a little undersized at 5’11", but plays solid defense and at 19 years old he still could still hit a growth spurt.
Garrett Gould (19.5 years old) RHP – Gould had a solid season in the Pioneer League as a 19 year old (4.06 ERA, 3.39 FIP), although his velocity dipped a bit during the season. However, his drop in velocity can be explained by a couple of injuries and the fact that this was really his first full season of professional baseball. In addition to his fastball, he has a very strong curveball, and like most young pitchers is working on his changeup.
Scott Elbert (25.5 years old) LHP – Battled personal problems and injuries in 2010, but the lefty is still just 25 and has nasty stuff when he is able to get it over the plate. According to a recent interview, it sounds like he will be strictly a reliever in the future.
Kyle Russell (24.75 years old) OF – Best known for his plus power and his strikeout totals, most prospect hounds either love him or hate him. Russell dominated the California League before getting promoted to AA where he struggled initially before hitting a hot streak over the final month of the season. Kyle is also a solid defender with a very good arm in right field.
Nathan Eovaldi (21 years old) RHP – Throws gas, but has never recorded particularly high strikeout numbers. According to Charlie Hough, the low strikeout totals are due his poor command. Had a mediocre season in 2010, and was limited due to a mid season oblique strain. He is still being groomed as a starter, although it has been rumored that consistency with his breaking pitches will determine his future role.
Ivan De Jesus Jr (23.75 years old) 2B – A broken leg cost him virtually all of his 2009 season, but De Jesus responded pretty nice bounce-back year in 2010. Hit .296 with 7 homers, although it should be noted he played his home games the very hitter friendly stadium. He doesn’t really have a plus skill, but seems to hold his own in most aspects of the game and is still just 23 years old. He is basically limited to 2B now on an everyday basis, although he could probably play enough shortstop to fill the role of a middle infield utility player.
Brian Cavazos–Galvez (23 years old) OF – After an outstanding 2009 season, BCG got off to an extremely slow start with the Great Lakes Loons. By the time 2010 season was over, however, Cavazos-Galvez had put together one of the best all around seasons of any Dodger minor leaguer. He hit .318, smacked 18 homers, stole 43 bases, and drove in 77 runs. The negatives about BCG are that he was a little bit old for LoA, and that he isn’t a very strong outfield defender.
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Someone mentioned earlier about Tommy Lasorda and Sparky Anderson being teammates
Anderson’s number was retired in the 2000s by the Fort Worth Cats, who were a Dodgers affiliate in the 1950s when Anderson played there.
from Wikipedia. Maybe that’s where they played together.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions
Do we know for sure if this is a big league contract?
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The minimum will likely increase though, based on the CPI-W in November 2010.
Probably somewhere around $415k
Latest data for CPI-W is through September 2010
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/cpiw.html
Per CBA, 2011 minimum is a cost of living increase, rounded to nearest $500, comparing CPI-W in November 2008 to November 2010.
November 2008: 207.296
September 2010: 214.306
if nothing changes (highly unlikely, of course), the 2011 MLB minimum will be $413,500
The question is
how can you live on that now, while also preparing to live on that the rest of your life when you became a scout/minor league coach making between 20,000 – 40,000 a year.
Captain Crankypants
If he doesn’t reach his incentives, isn’t this a contract for below the major league minimum? I mean, if it is exactly $400k.
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Scratch
My question is not “is this below MLB minimum”. My question is, can they sign him to a contract below the minimum, and if so, does it just get automatically bumped up to the minimum once the new minimum has been established?
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My guess is that it is for a guaranteed minimum salary, and will be adjusted accordingly once the 2011 minimum becomes official.
Right
that would make sense. Guaranteed minimum, whatever that may be.
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The Canadian Press addressed the issue in their report of the signing:
Gibbons will receive the major league minimum of US$400,000 plus a cost-of-living adjustment to be announced next month.
Thanks, I was also thinking De Jesus, and was wondering if I was valuing him too high
and maybe I am.
Question: of the players above, who is the most likely to reach his ceiling?
Now with 33% more Kavula
How much will Pena get?
.196/.325/.407, 28 HRs, 84 RBIs, 5 SBs
Will he bounce back or has he just lost it?
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I'm leaning E. Martin here
but I could be swayed.
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I made myself laugh out loud with this, so sorry if no one else found it funny
you sure it wasn’t Hawg Stump. I had one of those once, it was rotated over a fire with pineapples for nipples
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by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
look, when your school mascot is a key ingredient in a pulled pork sandwich you’re bound to get some food references
by Josie Becker on Nov 4, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If Trayvon gets moved up to AAA
does BCG maybe move to AA?
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camonga?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
AA could have a lot of options
I believe any of the Loons outfielders have a shot to go to AA since the Dodgers basically consider LoA and HiA the same level
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodger News
Glad to see Pod Gone
Eh about Gibbons coming back, but I’m glad for him that he got a major league deal.
Found the Ned quote very interesting.
I don’t see much diff between Trent and Pod other then one can actually play CF. Still think Paul is the best option for a fourth outfielder in that he can play all three positions, has a little pop, decent speed. I don’t understand why every one here who uses SSS to denounce when anyone does well that they did not expect to, also’s uses SSS to write off players they also did not expect to do will. I do like that Ned realizes that he will need a platoon if he uses the names he mentioned. If we enter the year with those options I don’t think we need to give up the ship. They could easily build on the spot as the season progresses either from Sands:) or with a trade.
I do hope we do not lock Pod into a multi year deal. His skills come and go and among major league baseball his is a skill set that I think is easily replaceable.
Captain Crankypants
Okay, Argument for DeJesus
DeJesus is a middle infielder who was on-track to be on the big-league club in 2009 until he broke his leg. Before that point, he’d accomplished more at a younger age than Dee Gordon and it’s not even close. After losing all of 2009 to injury, he started out slowly in 2010 and didn’t produce a year that screams out at you. That being said, he’s young enough and even at 2B if he can play like he did in 2008 he’s got a future.
His walk rates need to go back up to pre-injury levels.
Can #9 go to everyone sucks?
Failing that, I guess Martin has the highest ceiling but jesus he was terrible.
You can vote for Kyle Russell, and we can have the same argument we had about him over the last two years.
I'm the opposite
I can make an argument for a number of prospects. This is when the fun starts.
Captain Crankypants
They’re all pretty evenly matched, but for almost all the guys the counter argument is “but he sucked this year”.
Off the top of my head I’d probably rank these guys Martin, Miller, Gould, DeJesus, BCG, Garcia, Elbert, Eovaldi, Russell but I could change that order completely tomorrow.
Just curious
In what way did Garcia suck?
15th in OPS at 18
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/leader.cgi?type=bat&id=15017
If he did any better then that he’d have to be considered for one of the top five spots given his age and production. We’ve never had an 18 year old hit that well in Ogden that I can remember.
Captain Crankypants
The BA people were not high on his future
but being 18 and putting up those numbers, until what the scouts say proves true, I’ll lean on the numbers.
Captain Crankypants
I think that people need to revisit his numbers
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=garcia003jon
I see an .881 OPS in 420 PA at ages 17-18 in Rk ball and I am content.
And Sickels when he revisited his Dodger preseason top 20
in August, wrote this:
16) Jonathan Garcia, OF, Grade C+: .319/.380/.511 for Ogden in the Pioneer League. 18 years old, toolsy [i]f a bit undersized at 5-11, strong throwing arm.
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Eh, he had a 22.1 K%
which was barely higher than Jerry Sands. .
At least he walks at a decent clip as well. Shows he is seeing some pitches and not just hacking at everything.
7% is no big deal
but he’s 18 and none of our other hitters were in our system until they were 20. It is strange for Logan to draft a hitter as young as Garcia. Maybe Kemp was the last guy who came out of high school that actually looked like he could became a major league hitter.
Captain Crankypants
Kemp as an 18 yo
GCL: 168 PA, .270/.298/.346, 1 HR, 25K /7 BB
.60 iso patience is the low end of acceptable.
Then again, I was thinking BCG walked way more than he did. I’ll probably bump him down a couple spots.
BCG
is playing winter ball somewhere right?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dominican
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/10/31/1784123/dodgers-winter-league-update
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Kind of amazing
that an A league player found a spot. Bet his dad pulled some strings for that to happen. Just six at bats but just being on Licey is surprising.
Captain Crankypants
BCG didn't walk that much
because he was too busy crushing anything that dared cross the plate in the strike zone.
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I went with Aaron Miller
he did the job in a league where his competition did not. Yes he’s older but has he pitched any more then those are two years younger given he was moved to the rotation while in college and late at that.
His getting destroyed in AA is alarming which is why he’s here and not above Webster and Withrow. He has enough pitches to remain a starter. I’d bet on his career before anyone else on this list.
Captain Crankypants
“I’d bet on his career before anyone else on this list.”
That’s why I went with him as well.
@neufaustcan
likewise
Lefty, throws mid-90’s, good breaking pitches. Sign me up.
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The job in Colton didn’t call me back. So I’m pretty much dead for that one. The other job (basically a school cop, but I’ll hold a dashboard instead of a gun), I have an interview for it on Friday.
Although that conjured up an amusing image
Make sure you call it a “clipboard” in the interview. And good luck.
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I'm leaning toward E Martin because he's still v young, still
has some great stuff, and I think his problems are fixable this year. So going with potential, though still a little on the fence. I do like Miller, and think DeJesus has the best shot of this group of playing in the majors in 2011, but that doesn’t always mean someone’s a great prospect. Anyway, debating between those three but leaning toward Martin.
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Martin could be a very good 7th-8th inning reliever one day. His curve has back breaking bite and he throw throw 97 with ease.
Unfortunately, he’s still VERY raw.
Yeah he is
I’m just thinking age + stuff when considering him, but still has a looong way to go.
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Martin seems to have worn out very quickly
in both his professional seasons. In fact I don’t think he has come close to matching what he did since his April of 2009 for the Loons. To me not only does he have a problem being a starter I question his arm and the ability to actually pitch a season.
He has had two good months in his professional career and they both came in April. Maybe his arm simply can not throw very many pitches.
I don’t know but Martin is not close on my list until he shows he can pitch for more then one month a season.
Captain Crankypants
If Garcia puts up good numbers at Great Lakes next year
I think he moves up but for now, no.
Russell, is going to have to keep hitting his way onto this list.
I know its how the system is set up,
But I wish there was a league for all the rookie league players to play in April-June. The short season leagues are way too small to really gauge what a player like Garcia or Gould can do.
from KLAW chat today
Carlos (LosAngeles)
What’s your opinion of Dee Gordon’s potential?
Klaw (2:45 PM)
Has gone from overrated to underrated. He’s still physically immature and he was rushed to AA this year. If they slow it down, and let his body catch up, he’ll be fine.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
I try.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie didn't ask for your opinion
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
Keith Law must know he's going to be 23 this summer
so I simply do not understand this comment.
Captain Crankypants
I was going to ask sarcastically at what age Dee Gordon is expected to mature physically.
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Evidently his father grew into a massive man
at the age of 23 and he expect the same genetics to apply.
Oh wait that didn’t happen, Flash Gordon remained one of the smallest pitchers around for most of his career.
Captain Crankypants
no
but he had muscle on his frame….remember?
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Gordon was well built
typically new muscles at age 23 are earned not grown out of thin air.
Captain Crankypants
Maybe Keith Law
thinks sons of past major league pitchers for the Royals/Red Sox mature differently then the rest of the baseball playing world.
Captain Crankypants
well, it is Keith Law
more than likely he’s never even seen him play and is just presenting one scouts opinion as his own. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the same Keith Law
that everyone was happy about when he said good things about Zach Lee.
He has seen Gordon play, at least at Spring Training.
I was just making a joke
I have no opinion of Keith Law. I did think he was a bit unfair in his assessment of Sands, but other than that i got nothing…
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
but this is not scouting, this is his opinion that Gordon is physically immature at age 23, which I find strange. If had left off that comment I wouldn’t be doing Lawsnide as he does when someone makes a comment that seems a bit off.
Captain Crankypants
why?
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
or maybe not
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
or maybe KLaw
has seen him play and knows scouts who have seen him plays that think highly of him.
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That isn't what we are making fun of
if he had simply said that, then we’d say Keith Law thinks Gordon is underrated and will start to put his naysayers at rest with his production as he gets older. It was simply the physical immaturity comment that struck me as if he thinks Gordon is 20 years old.
Captain Crankypants
you disagree
that he is physically immature?
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Phil would argue that
just that Gordon is reaching an age where he is running out of time to mature
“Immature” just may be code for “small,” not “still maturing.”
When I was a boy, I acted in a production of “Peter Pan.” I remember distinctly that the casting call for Peter was for an early-20s, “physically immature” woman. That was how they said “this part should be played by a girl what has no tits.”
Now with 33% more Kavula
Yes
I agree that he has a small frame, but I do not think he is going to grow a bigger frame.
Captain Crankypants
why?
Furcal was smaller at 22 than he is now
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Furcal lied about his age?
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proven?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
ok I stand corrected
even still….didn’t he put on weight since 23? 25? 27?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Putting on weight
and making your wrists bigger then a pencil are not necessarily one and the same.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
How many people do you know
who had a growth spurt after 23?
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
did you
put on weight after the age of 22? I did….lots
raygu
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Did your frame get any bigger?
if all he does is get fat that helps no one.
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see
Sandoval, Pablo
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Gaining weight is not the same thing in my opinion
most everyone will gain weight as they age, but that weight will still rest on the same frame that supported it when it was 22. They have tried for two years to put muscle on Gordon, as you can see it has not worked. I think they simply will have to work with what they have and that might be enough.
Captain Crankypants
It’s a hell of a lot easier for me to put on muscle at age 26 than it was at 22.
He’s never gonna be huge, but he can definitely get bigger.
Well you are a good comp
you have a frame just like his, but were you hiding these muscles you speak of:)
Captain Crankypants
This made me laugh
Mike (NYC)
The Yankees need a young centerfielder. Would the Angels trade Mike Trout for Austin Romine and Pat Venditte
Klaw
(1:42 PM)
Best. Question. Ever.
Yankees fans aren’t even bothering to ask ML players now. No, lets just go straight to the best prospects.
Uh........
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Prospect thoughts
DeJesus seems likely to make the majors and have a career if even as a Alex Cora/Juan Castro type.
Martin/Miller/Gould/Eovaldi are all B-/C+ guys at this point. Martin & Eovaldi probably have the highest upside. Gould’s early velocity drop is troublesome but has age on his side. Miller probably has the best chance to make it at least as #5 starter.
BCG has to make it to AA next year and put up the same numbers to be a prospect.
Not going to get into the Elbert or strikeout king argument right now.
Garcia is very intriguing here. He might be a bit undersized but should fill out more. Strong arm and defense, solid hitter so far and one of the youngest players in the league. The only negative I’ve heard about him is some scouts don’t like his “approach” which frankly is silly because he is so young. He deserves a few years to be coached on his “approach”. I hope they put him in A ball next year.
Can’t decide on my vote yet, but probably gonna go with either Garcia, Miller or Martin.
Let me be clear
the overall numbers for BCG were impressive but only because he tore the league a new asshole in July/August. So when I say that comment I mean he carries over those number to AA.
Captain Crankypants
I'm always way more impressed with what a prospect
is doing at the end of the season then at the beginning. It is the reason why I liked Sands so much last year because of how he ended the year. Many prospects struggle in the beginning at Great Lakes, it takes a while to get used playing baseball in cold weather when so many of them come from a region where they play baseball year round. So when it comes to prospects I certainly do isolate numbers.
Captain Crankypants
I don't get the DeJesus will have a career in MLB talk
First off, he has to get an opportunity. There are no guarantees about that. Just because there are players like Theriot in MLB, doesn’t mean that DeJesus has a shot to make it.
His skill set doesn’t jump out as one that teams are going to be after if he never gets a shot with the Dodgers.
Has he been helped by his AFL play, perhaps. But there is a big jump from there to becoming someone who plays in the league for a while like Alex Cora.
Come on
how many 23 year starting 2nd baseman in AAA don’t eventually get a shot at a major league career. He will get his shot, what he does with it, is the question but he seems to play well enough defense at 2nd that if he does not have at least a career of an Alex Cora I’ll be shocked.
Captain Crankypants
Wasn't there literally talk from one of the Dodger coaches
or staff about DeJesus might get a shot with team next year? Or did I misremember that?
So yes, there are no guarantees, but that’s a given with just about anyone, really. It’s just clear the Dodgers are going into 2011 pretty weak at 2nd base and he’s been impressing Mattingly so even if it’s a jump people are making it’s an understandable one.
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DeJesus himself said
he was trying to put himself into a position to win the 2nd base job but I don’t recall any coach/management saying anything similar.
Captain Crankypants
Hm yeah I'm searching around and that's all I came up with
well, good for him for giving it a go anyway.
BTW, here’s a good piece by MSTI on whether DeJesus should be given shot at 2nd base gig next year, in case anyone missed it last week:
http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2010/10/28/should-ivan-dejesus-get-a-shot-at-the-2b-job/
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Mike (Boston)
Klaw, what’s your opinion of the McRib?
Klaw
(2:01 PM)
That commercial is nauseous. You see all that disgusting, high fructose corn syrupy sauce dripping off the side? Did it ever occur to anyone that they use that much sauce to hide the inferior quality of the meat?
Mike (Boston)
Estephen, what’s your opinion of the McRib?
Estephen
(2:01 PM)
That commercial is nauseous. You see all that disgusting, high fructose corn syrupy sauce dripping off the side? Did it ever occur to anyone that they use that much sauce to hide the inferior quality of the meat?
Fixed. :)
The Corn Syrup Industry
Insists you call it corn sugar now.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 4, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The corn syrup industry
can gft.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
My feeling exactly.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Nov 4, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred (Austin, TX)
You seem to like Zach Lee. Similar development time to Kershaw, or longer?
Klaw
(2:25 PM)
Similar. Stuff isn’t quite as electric as Kershaw’s.
I remember Logan White
felt he would be more like Billz in terms of how he would advance
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by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s just such a go getter, that we knew we needed to make him an offer. Look, it’s going to be an interesting winter, I hear Bakersfield should be expecting frost, but we’re gonna put together the best group of guys we can.
He kept throwing his fecal matter at me. It had to stop, so I…. what do you mean, a gibbon? I thought I was signing Jay — oh, never mind.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
He just showed a real commitment to masturbation I felt we had to taker a flyer on him. Not only that, but get in his face, and he might just chew your’s off, so he’ll be as great clubhouse presence.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
by mleadman on Nov 4, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Made-up generic quote
Jay is a versatile player that helped in a number of different areas last year. His experience will serve us well coming off the bench and in the starting lineup on occasion. Jay is a no-nonsense grinder who adds a veteran dimension to our club. We look forward to his contributions over a full season.
I went with Gould
Mostly because of his age, but to be honest at this point it’s almost a crapshoot for me. I’m not as high on DeJesus as I once was, and really have no idea where to put him.
Lindblom
Might as well be in this discussion as well. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him make a big league appearance out of the pen next season.
He could still end up being a solid 7th inning guy, even if the starting experiment didn’t work.
Regarding additions to the team,
the two better moves (the ship has sailed on one of the could-have moves) the Dodgers could do involve the coaching staff: Should have picked up Curt Young to replace Honeycutt and pick up Davey Lopes.
Enlighten me on Curt Young
and his coachiness, I only remember him as a crappy pitcher.
Captain Crankypants
I understand the fresh start approach
and was surprised that Mattingly did not bring in all his own guys, which says he may not have as big an ego as most managers. Honeycut certainly was not able to help McDonald or get management to trust him.
Captain Crankypants
I still question
whether he was able to help Billingsley, or if Billz did it on his own.
Probably a little of both
Maturity on the part of Bills and bringing what they worked on in between starts to the game.
Billz
gives some credit to Ellis, who basically just asked him why he didn’t pitch like he used too.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Ausmus
fix Bellisario in 2009? Or was that Troncoso?
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
I think part of retaining Honeycutt was to minimize
doubts (albeit in a small way) about his lack of experience.
Yeah I can't see a good reason to get rid of Honeycutt
other than that he wants out, or Mattingly has a new guy he loves. Honeycutt’s done a pretty consistently good job with the pitching staff overall and after a slow start they were very good (esp the starters) in the 2nd half this year.
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I don't think you replace someone
for the sake of replacing him. Sounds like Honeycutt had the option of going somewhere else but he decided to stay.
Phil already mentioned McDonald, but that was what got me thinking
in the first place.
I think for him
it was more getting out of LA that helped him, I still think he put a lot of pressure on himself being a hometown guy.
Nope
Why can’t Javy Vazquez pitch in NY but does great everywhere else?
It goes beyond coaching sometimes.
Maybe but for McDonald
he specifically said that when he went to Pittsburgh they told him to use his full arsenal which he was never allowed to do with the Dodgers.
Captain Crankypants
This is all conjecture
for me and I would assume everyone else here.
I do know that the one time I heard Ned speak about McDonald, he said what he liked about him was that he had 3-4 good pitches, maybe not one great pitch but 3-4 he could use at any time.
That was in ST 2009.
There is a quote about hims
appreciating the fact that he could learn while pitching every 5th day instead of sitting and learning.
Which I think is why he succeeded
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
he wasn't getting that
at the minor leagues?
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
He was, and was doing good before they called him up and gave him
one friggin start
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
probably some the better relievers too
He’s now the Red Sox pitching coach
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Nov 4, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller out to the early lead
with five votes.
Garcia and De Jesus just back with three each. Gould, Martin, and Elbert all show with one.
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Update
It’s a dogfight between Miller and De Jesus, with six each.
Garcia remains at three, Gould and Elbert two, Martin one.
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I'm surprised at the support for DeJesus
I thought I was the only one who kind of liked him and even I would not take him over Miller.
Captain Crankypants
Like I say, I was wondering if I was nuts for rating him so high. I still may be nuts, but at least I’ve got company.
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Mine too. I certainly wouldn’t imagine anybody would have voted for him before now. But would anybody have voted for him now, at #9?
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This is the production you'd be voting on
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=lambo-001and
and he wouldn’t be getting any interest from me.
Captain Crankypants
he'd be about #420 on my list...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ouch
Listening to ESPN Radio (I know, I know…), they just played one of their “extra points” where an ESPN personality gives a 60-second sound bite on a current issue.
This one was on Sparky Anderson, but it had to do with being placed in hospice care, and included the line, “Anderson isn’t gone, but…”
Might want to take that one out of the queue.
They kept playing
the Mason and Ireland one where they were talking about the Dodgers getting Lilly even into October.
Wow. Nice pull. I wonder if any of these kids just got back from the service.
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I love
that they are standing in an apparently empty field with only a chapel behind them. I wonder how many folk today know USC used to be religiously affiliated?
That team (1948) was the first USC baseball team to win the College World Series. They beat Yale (with George H.W. Bush) in the final.
Bush couldn’t hit lefties for shit.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
by mleadman on Nov 4, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This guy says Bush couldn’t carry his jock.
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by Humma Kavula on Nov 4, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Me either
but I blamed it on my firewall. Eric tweeted a link to it, which can be found on the right sidebar of the TBLA main page.
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bazinga
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
FTFY

I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Really sad news about Sparky Anderson
He will be missed.
My father was actually best friends with his brother, and several years ago, asked him if he could get Sparky’s autograph for me as a Christmas present. I ended up with an autographed baseball.
Fuck the Giants, fuck the Rangers, fuck this whole damn World Series.
It’s great to hear that the heroes you attach good guy personalities to actualy turn out to be quality people. Nothing really dashes a hope more than meeting your idol or hearing a story about them and finding out they were nothing like you thought.
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I could not begin to know. I’ve grown up with Vin Scully, Chick Hearn and Bob Miller and no one else. I have to say, my Lakers viewership is about 5% of what it was when Chick was alive.
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Last night was my first game with Joel Meyers unmuted.
In the previous three games, I was listening to something else while watching, and the first game was on TNT. Those were the days.
This is no joke. They could easily have Spero and Stu do a simulcast.
Sorry Joel and Mychal. I don’t know what they see in Joel Meyers either. Spero is better in every way, plus he’s on TV all over now.
Stu is bearable with a good PBP man. I never respected Chick more than after he died, when I realized how awesome he was for interrupting Stu all those times :)
I find Stu’s imaginary conversations to be endlessly entertaining. Otherwise, he’s just meh.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
where the fuck
is that quote from
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
meercatjohn said that after I commented that I liked John Lennon’s guitar-work in “Honey Pie”
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
that does sound like you, phil
and I am stuck in Theology hell. :(
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
One day we should do
instead of talk like a pirate
talk like Maddz
or talk like Josie
or talk like Marty
or talk like ……..
you get the picture
Captain Crankypants
When it's
talk like Eric day, there will be one three-word sentence repeated interminably.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I liked Chick
but his impact on my viewing/listening to Laker games is not the same as Vin’s is on Dodger games. Well to be honest, really neither is to the extent that I would not watch or listen to the game if they were not there. But baseball is a game that relies more on the play by play guy vs. basketball.
And Chick, as great as he was, had a lot of things at the end, he had to use (game is in the fridge, etc) that was more for the effect rather than the entertainment.
BTW
I started really listening/watching Laker games since Lassie was a pup. Or put it this way. Elgin Baylor was still playing.
As I've said before here
losing Chick really changed how I viewed the Lakers. I simply will not watch them anymore with Joel because unlike Baseball I like to hear my announcers in basketball.
Captain Crankypants
But you listen to Lawler?
I can take about 5 minutes of his voice.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
He could teach SilverWidow a thing or two about hyperbole
That was the greatest play in Minnesota in the month of may by a 25 year old Clipper in history
Captain Crankypants
BINGO!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I think Lawler is fantastic
Smith I could live without
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't watch sports for the announcers
but Chick made Laker basketball all that much better, just as Vin does with the Dodgers.
Put another way, I won’t stop watching the Dodgers when Vin retires. I’ll just watch less because the less exciting games won’t be as entertaining and it’ll remind me how much I miss Vin.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
Maybe we can trade Sands and Robinson for Carlos Lee
dodgerthoughts
Wondering if Scott Podsednik is holding out for Jody Reed money.
Cots
# 07:$11M, 08:$12M, 09:$18.5M, 10:$18.5M, 11:$18.5M, 12:$18.5M
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/leeca01.shtml
Problem with six year deals with guys who just turned 30.
Captain Crankypants
I suppose I should have written
Zach Lee for some middling LF to tie in to the Jody Reed part of Jon’s tweet.
That's pretty meta.
The newest State Farm ad with the the creepy guy had one guy looking at him like “Are you kidding me?”
Ismael is even younger!
August 21, 1973.
Trade back the Z for an S at the end of the last name, and we have a deal.
Astacio or Valdes
Ah the days of Hispanic arms. Seems like ages since we found one in the rotation who was worth a shit in the woods.
Captain Crankypants
FLAGGED
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#rockies never made official offer for De La Rosa since they were thinking 2 yrs and De La Rosa 5.
5 years?
Welp, it’s nice to want things
by Michael White on Nov 4, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
in all seriousness, I'd give him 5 years
If it was slated as:
2011: 11mil, 12: 11mil, 13: 11mil, 14: 9mil club option, 15: 8mil club option.
Minimum 33/3, Maximum 50/5
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The New York Court of Appeals
/Plaxico
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by G.Scott on Nov 4, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Charlie Samuels, the Mets’ longtime clubhouse manager, has been suspended after the team learned he was tied to a federal investigation into illegal gambling, according to two lawyers briefed on the matter.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/mets-suspend-clubhouse-manager/
James Jones = Rickey fan
Fourth-year receiver James Jones has had an up and down career, and perhaps the last three games are a microcosm of that inconsistency.
Jones had no catches Sunday against the New York Jets, and was also shut out Oct 17 against Miami. Sandwiched in between, Jones had four catches for 107 yards in a huge Week 7 win over Minnesota.
"James Jones could play better, yes," Jones said. "But James Jones believes to be up, you need opportunities. I can’t throw the ball to myself. I can’t do that.
Sounds like James Jones is a James Jones fan
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
From espn.com
Tim Kurkjian on Sparky Anderson.
Why Phil should love Sparky:
Anderson fractured the English language, but in an engaging, homespun sort of way. Of his Stengelesque mangling of words, which was comical and harmless, Anderson once said, "Why do you have to know English? It’s like ‘two.’ There are three twos! There’s tee-oh. There’s tee-doublya-oh, and there’s tee-double-oh. Three twos! Now, if I put any one of them down in a letter I wrote, you would know which one it is I am talking about. It’s like ‘there’ and ‘their.’ What is the difference as long as you know there’s a there there?’’Why Eric should love Sparky:
When Steve Rushin of Sports Illustrated went to do a story on Sparky, Anderson brought up the hilarious movie, “The Naked Gun,” and in full uniform in his office, did his impersonation of Leslie Nielsen as the umpire, complete with the moonwalk and the yelling of Steeeeee-rike threeeee.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sparky is to awesome too be used in the company of the two of us
Captain Crankypants
by meercatjohn on Nov 4, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
For once I can ignore that the source is Plaschke
He has some quotes from Lopes and Colletti. Nobody’s ruling anything out anyway.
“The things he did in Philadelphia, combined with the fact that he’s a Dodger legend, we would be remiss if we didn’t think about this internally,” Colletti said.
“I’ve been there, I know what it’s like when you’re young and you need to know somebody is covering your back,” Lopes said from his home in the San Diego area. “Sometimes you feel lost, and you need a coach or manager to alleviate that. I get it.”
“I think it would be a good situation for the Dodgers and myself,” Lopes said. “I would love to finish where I started.”
“I am impressed with the entire Phillies operation, and Davey was part of that,” Colletti said. “I know the intensity he brings to a team. He knows how to use his knowledge and experience.”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I don’t know why, but I really hope this happens.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 4, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
DO IT DO IT NOW
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
Even then it's still obnoxious
he basically sounds like he wants to take credit for it if Lopes comes to LA, all because he played matchmaker.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yeah, it's his usual tone
Plus he made these phone calls yesterday. We were all thinking these same thoughts within moments of Lopes announcement on Monday. If Eric had access to Lopes and Colletti like Plaschke does, he would have had that article whipped out for the Tuesday’s paper, not Thursday’s.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
"Excuse me while I whip this out..."
{everyone takes cover} {screams}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm astounded that you can write in a candidate
how would we do that in California? I know nothing of this Alaskan Senator but I hope she pulls this off.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/us/politics/04alaska.html?_r=1
Captain Crankypants
I would love to be in the room as vote counters try to figure out what a voter wrote. If we can’t figure out whether or not a chad has been punched or not, how are they possibly going to decipher an Alaskan’s handwriting?
I understand they just have to recognize intent
and not spell the name correctly, but yet that would be interesting. They could show it on Cspan
Captain Crankypants
Lisa Murkowski the incumbent. She’s going to because there’s a bunch of conservative democrats that hate Palin, but don’t want to see an actual Democrat in charge.
Yes
I understand the sentiment, just didn’t know write in was an option until this week.
Captain Crankypants
Upto this point the most famous write in candidate in my lifetime
was Steve Garvey winning the 1974 all star vote for 1st baseman with a write in campaign. I think he then went on to win the All Star game MVP, and of course the NL MVP. What other MVP did he win that year?
Captain Crankypants
>Blue Sky Disney has revealed that Disney’s next hand drawn animated film following Winnie the Pooh will be an adaptation of one of the books in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series, and will be directed by Ron Clements and John Musker. The project is very early in development, since Disney has just recently secured the rights to it. These films take about three years to produce, so the film will not be released until 2013 at the earliest. However, since Disney’s Reboot Ralph is farther along in production, that will probably be the 2013 release with the Discworld project more likely getting a 2014 release.
http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/35572/disneys-next-hand-drawn-animated-film-based-on-pratchett
s-discworld
Revival of WtP?
They better not fuck that up.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
Discworld?
The game that was on the playstation? Would love that as a movie, it was really funny.
My gf will be stoked
or scared. She loves Pratchett to death. I enjoy his books, too.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm really hoping that John Lassater
has a positive effect on these films.
Above all else do no harm
John Lassater
the Midas of animated cinema.
FYI, Midas the golden touch guy, not Midas the PUMP YO BREAKS guy.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
If they fuck up WtP
all his other work will be dead to me.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Oh, another one that is fun to play.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 4, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I really need to read more
Didn’t realize Discworld was a book series, but I’m guessing that’s where the game came from…
I thought I was. Eric told me you’re the coolest, so I thought I’d start at the top.
My buddy is flying out there sometime…..maybe this weekend. He goes out there once a year.
He loves the Raiders.
He went to SD last year and watched the Raiders/Chargers.
i dont go to qualcomm anymore
logistical nightmare. i think the next time i go there will be the next time UCLA is in the Holiday Bowl. (Or the Pointsettia Bowl)
Pendleton?
There must be worse places for USMC boot. At least the weather is nice.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Just tell someone to jently nudge Brandon Flowers on every route
and he will spend the rest of the game alternating between clapping like a moron and bitching like a child, while simultaneously giving up on covering the receiver immediately.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'
Sparky and Tommy
Sparky Anderson was a Dodger farmhand from 1953 – 1958, which means he was Los Angeles Dodger property that last year. He played in Santa Barbara (C League!, 1953), Pueblo (‘54), Ft. Worth (’55), Montreal (‘56 & ’58) and the LA Angels of the PCL (’57).
Tommy Lasorda played for Montreal 1950-1955 and 1958-1960, and the LA Angels in 1957. Sparky was the 2B behind Tommy in both 1957 and 1958.
Thanks to baseball-reference.com.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Chimes in on Sparky
Sparky once said, "I only had a high school education and, believe me, I had to cheat to get that.’’
I saw that quote
If I only I had thought to add you to that Phil/Eric/Sparky comment. Darn.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This is good stuff
Sparky Anderson got another chance. He made the kids winners in minor league towns like St. Petersburg, Fla., and Modesto, Calif., and Asheville, N.C. The kids feared him and they liked him too. Not that it mattered. “A player doesn’t have to like the manger,” Sparky would say, “and a player doesn’t have to respect the manager. All the player has to do is obey the manager.”
Really fine article
Thanks for the link.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Gibbons contract
the Dodgers.com article says he gets $650K with another $150K in incentives. so which is it, the $650K or the league minimum?
Oh reginald.....
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
By tomorrow we should have the full AP report, which usually has incentive details. That should clear it up.
I’m more inclined to believe the $650k FWIW
True or False
Ned Colletti would include the blood of his first born in a contract incentive if a player requested it.
Should not
and the good part of the story is that Gibbons will be back. No one thought he could hit major league pitching anymore and he proved us wrong. At least reward him for that and if he can’t next year then let him go. Nothing wrong with Jay Gibbons getting a chance to be our left handed pinch hitter.
Captain Crankypants
I'm actually pretty high on the guy
I like having him on the team.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
yeah i am too
When i first heard that it was for the that the league minmum i thought there is no way that could be accurate
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That said, SOP in baseball seems that you offer a bit more than the minimum to veteran players anyway.
Agreed
Although if there was anyone who would sign for the minimum, it’s someone who was out of baseball for three years with a tinge of shame attached to the backstory. Especially given that there are incentives in the deal.
But yeah, $650k does sound more realistic.
Anybody know any good jobsites?
I’ve been using craiglist(don’t laugh, it actually works for education jobs).
How much do you like spam?
and are you willing to work as a salesman?
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Consider posting your resume on Monster if your willing to consider about anything.
Lots of sales jobs and such.
You don't even have to look for them
They’ll send them to you, no matter what you put in your profile.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
For tech jobs
I think dice.com is the best. The Ladders.com is good for a little more executive level.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
The hardest is to find non sales jobs when that is your main area of expertice. If you have no degree, and you have 13 years of sales experience…..you are doomed!
it's all about transferable skills
if you are in sales, get into management and show you can manage people. Then write up your success stories in your resume, highlighting revenue brought in or expenses saved. You can then apply to almost any industry.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I have 11 years of management in sales. I need to be a better story teller on my resume, apparently!
I highly recommend
having your resume professionally written. It was the best $500 I’ve ever spent.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
What did they translate
exceptional knowledge on the best burritos in the Pasadena area that got you your new gig.
:)
Detailing the trail of bodies I've left behind
after various re-orgs. Companies love that.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
5 days a week. She has to get her credentials and she is good to go.
She will be the Primary APN for the Trauma Center at The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences.
I have to practice that.
I am very proud of her.
That's great
and also a reason to stay in Arkansas
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Is Arkansas one of those states where its too fucking hot in the summer and too fucking cold in the winter?
Congratulations
When I went through my career crisis I thought of becoming a Male Nurse, but decided if they put to many peoples lives in my hands they would start to wonder why they all ended up dead.
Captain Crankypants
Can't you get a job
that pays for watching Dodger games and following the Razorbacks around the SEC.
Congrats to your wife, sounds like after she has a tough day, she probably won’t care about the Dodgers blowing a 9th inning lead.
She hates Sports. As bad as a person can hate them. She only watches and plays along because she knows I love it.
Unreal how lucky some dudes get.
My wife loves baseball and HATES basketball.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Mine likes baseball / basketball
absolutely hates football but I think it was because her ex husband was a high school football coach and ex High School QB.
Captain Crankypants
She wins then. 2 outa 3 aint bad.
When she called me to tell me about the acceptance, this is how she told me.
“Well, we can get you that poker table you want now…..”
/swoon
Now that is a woman
good thing I’m old, bald, married, and lost my penis in a cockfight, or I’d be headed out to Ar Kansas to woe her.
Captain Crankypants
…the idea of losing one’s penis in a cockfight is hilarious because the possibilities abound
Leading the league in OMGs || President of the Billz Appreciation Club
Oh dear god
I will definitely never go to a Donkey show in Tijuana because of that show!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
there was a question that you might before?
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(that was sort of the joke I was going for there)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Someone better save up for that ring
and second honeymoon trip
and going to the SEC championship game doesn’t count.
Congrats
That is fine and noble work indeed.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Can you outlast him?
I’ve outlasted many an incompetent boss in my career. The one truly evil one also, but that took 8 1/3 long years.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Man, that is a long time to outlast a boss
I have to say in all my time, I’ve never worked for a dick. I think I’ve been very blessed in this area. If I had kept in touch with them, they would all be friends.
Captain Crankypants
I have bosses who can be dicks sometimes
but are generally cool guys.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
You'll aren't the boss of me!
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Noland er does not
I work with a Brendan if it is any consolation.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Of course I kind of work for Eric now
so I guess there is always a dick in the box.
Captain Crankypants
Most of my bad bosses were more
clueless than “dicks”. The Peter Principle is rampant in my industry. But the evil boss, he was simply a mofo, no two ways about it. He would lie simply for the sake of lying. Here’s a list of terms people actually used when talking to me about him:
sleazyTwo of those came together. The guy said, “that guy is so oily, he’s, he’s, self-lubricating!” The guys that called him POD weren’t even in our department!
duplicitous
conniving bastard
slimy snake in the grass
asshole
Prince of Darkness (POD)
King first-name
two-faced
self-lubricating
power hungry
self-serving
liar
evil
oily
sleaze-weasel
evil AND stupid
coward
Capt. first-name Queeg
fucking idiot
lying son of a bitch
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I hear Dick Cheny is looking for more hunting buddy's
I bet your boss likes to hunt.
Captain Crankypants
At this point, I would work for China teaching Disney English. (Yes, this is an actual job on craiglist. The job is literally teaching ‘Disney English’.)
You are young
if there is a time to do something like that, its now.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
This
If I was 25 years younger, I’d jump at a chance to go to China to work for a year or two.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
heh I got my tech job
on Monster, on like the 2nd day. They called me 15 minutes after I submitted my application.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
nolander
is your quote from Bioshock?
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yes
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
nsfw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkieBQv_0H8
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I award you 1 nolander point
screw inflation
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
thanks
one of my favorite games
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Its def in my top 10
Not sure if I can bring myself to play the sequel, but Infinite looks awesome.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
sequel was good
I worked on it :)
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Indeed.com
Amalgamates everything. Best site out there by far.
Can we pencil the D'backs for 5th in the NL West again?
murdog1: Are the D-backs going to win next season under your direction or is this a multi-year process?
Towers: Yes, we are going to win next year! I do not believe in long-term plans. The fans do not deserve it nor do any of our hard-working employees in the organization.
hotelguy: You mention wanting to cut down the strikeout totals, which I have been begging to happen for years. How does Don Baylor convince guys like Upton and Reynolds to change their approach, and if they don’t do they become expendable?
Towers: First way to cut down on the strikeout total is to change the personnel in the lineup, with the focus more on contact and pitch recognition. Those are the qualities I am looking for in a hitter. Those are areas that Don Baylor will influence our hitters to improve upon to be more successful.
so aaron miller
does he throw those mid 90s fastballs
or is he to what i thought he was…. 88-91 with a few 92s… maybe one 93
honestly
it was a serious question….. so is he mid 90s or is he low 90s high 80s? was the report right afterall that his velocity jumped???
maybe canuck knows… i was serious
don't call it
a callback
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
That line
was my favorite from the list. “He’s so oily he’s, he’s self-lubricating.” I can hear it to this day, more than a dozen years later.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Miller does not throw mid 90's
Charlie Hough specifically told me he doesn’t throw real hard; i believe he specially mentioned he works around 90 mph
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
I do hope is still with the team in Rancho…he was fun to talk to
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Miller
From BA….low 90’s up to 95mph..from Cal league top 20..he was #8..
When at his best, Miller works with a low-90s fastball that touches 95 mph and he locates it to both sides of the plate. He also has a power slider that he’s still learning to command as well as a changeup that has some sink but needs refinement. He’s still polishing his control and command as well.
You mean like this guy
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5524&position=P
Captain Crankypants
bumgarner was 94 from HS....
his velocity was just lost for a year or so and it came back recently…. aaron miller is a different scenario….
he was always high 80s low 90s… and then there was a reported velocity jump…..
Fangraphs says differently
sits at 91 during his major league career. who cares what he threw in HS?
Captain Crankypants
his velocity came back in the end of the season...
was down in the beginning
shut up tripon
hey, you aren’t tripon…
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I might take him over pods
at the right price
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Strangely, I am suddenly craving this
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If he wants 20 million dollars
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I'm still hoping we sign
some hot shot corner infielder if the choices are between Damon and Pods in left
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I went with Ethan Martin this round, I think he’s got the best potential of anyone left to vote for so far. I would have gone with Miller if not Martin. Then likely Garcia.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That's what you get! Now who looks like the idiot!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Never thought you'd see the day, would you?
I feel a sense of triumph right now! haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
God, don't make me throw up
I wouldn’t eat that for 1,000 dollars.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I would eat one
for free. Do I win?
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
One. Just one.
I have yet to consume one, and I must know.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I'm VERY picky
and seriously dumb, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it doesn't mean you're picky if you don't pay to eat a mcrib
it means you appreciate and respect your insides
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who the f does that?
Although I’m definitely not getting the jalapeño coins next time I go to red robins, so maybe me.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
ok first of all
my roommate did, and we’re all well aware that she’s awesome
secondly, i was belisario’d, so they were delicious
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also
i’m sorry for being insensitive to belisario and his issues, but i wanted to make that joke and so i did.
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Hey, I’m not hating, the drunken White Castle run is magical, just saying that you’re not in the best position to pass judgment.
somehow I don’t see sliders being nearly as offensive as a mcrib
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one shoots itself
the other is unoffensive and white?
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I have no idea
what a Padilla is doing on a tree or any other punny way to read that
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unless
the joke is that there is no difference between the two and that they are, effectively, both garlands
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Deal with it
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
What don't you hate, snob!
:P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
(shakes fist)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Giants decline Renteria's option
el oh el
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that's just great, haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
We still have Furcal booked for 2011, right?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I hurt my back
from sleeping. So.
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I had to leave the cafe because it hurt to sit in the chair. Now I am laying in bed. And it hurts to do this too.
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You are 24, right?
Jesus, I better take advantage of only being 20, the body falls to shit in only a couple more years apparently, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I have very tight back muscles. It’s more that then anything else. :P
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I totally read the second sentence as " not as much as something else :P"
hahaha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You should stop
trying to keep your shoulders back so far….
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
this area of back pain
would be more from trying to get my feet over my head then that, anyway
:P
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The worst part about having a desk job is the sitting.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Thats the worst part!
Its killing us slowly
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I read your post
as saying thats the best part. OOPS.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
I don't work a desk job anymore
I have a worse sitting down job, a factory assembly job.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
child labor is making a comeback?
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Damn you people, I am 20 years old, damnit!
lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
If I had to do it all over again
I would not start working at age 21. I would have stuck it out in school maybe even leaving LA. But that is just me.
I have some classes under my belt
Just not all that many. I’m not really a school person, not because I’m not good in school, I just don’t care enough to try, and I can’t find any real motivation. I wish I could, though. The only class I’ve ever really been seriously interested in was US History, I LOVE history so much.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
there's this thing
called a major, and like, you get to study ONLY that subject!!!
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Only after you’ve spent two years studying shit you don’t care about. I’m glad I took bio lab, it’s really paid off for my business degree.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
The English classes I took in college
while getting my Math/CS does occasionally help me understand Josie and Humma though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oh, I like English classes too
My major (yes, i actually have one Maddz, thank you, lol) is English. I’ve taken more English classes than any subject so far.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
English is one thing, making sure I understand basic math is one thing, making sure I understand the anatomy of the human eye, how a cell operates, and the exact dates, places and order of every Egyptian pharaoh, Persian king, Asian dynasty, ice age, and European war is an entirely pointless adventure into the abyss.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
thisssssssssssss
and Persian kings were kind of bad ass. <3 ANE
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I've been told countless times
That if I put the effort into school that I put into baseball knowledge I’d be a 4.0 student at a university right now. Sadly that is 100 percent true, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Funny thing is, I’d gladly know more about pointless dates, the names of kings from 1000 years ago, the names of battles in the American Revolution, etc…than Geography (I’m naturally Geographically dumb thanks to my mother I’m sure), anything above Algebraic math, and just about anything above high school science, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
And that’s great that that’s your passion. You should be able to spend 4 full years studying what you want to study and honing your craft towards your chosen career path.
You can, however, see how that would be next to pointless for me to know.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
What is your (or was) Major?
And yeah, I would be way more happy to go to school if I could just take English and History classes. I enjoy both subjects, just one more than the other.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You’ve got your whole life to learn about stuff in your field. Take advantage of a diversity of classes in college.
This. So very much this.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
waste of time and money.
I got my BS in Business Management with minors in Human Resources and Administration.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
Wow, that was pretty fucking harsh
That was directed at G Scott, right?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The only things I would really want to outside of what I’ve mentioned is maybe psychology (who the hell doesn’t take this class though, and right away too, though it’s probably mandatory for the GE), but I haven’t found much outside of that that can really interest me all that much.
Oh, maybe computer related classes.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Give stuff you think you might not like a try because it makes you a more interesting person if you can discuss a wide variety of stuff.
we need to do that
when I am back in town.
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are you kidding me?
you constantly beat me in qrank, it’s AGGRAVATING
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I follow it too
and am impressed :D
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And I love that word
circumlocution.
What I can’t remember is the word for a completely overly wordy writing style. The word is derived from some author who was guilty of it…… Damn this aging memory!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You're either close to my height
or taller. So no. Also, your hair is mighty.
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Dickens. Office of Circumlocution in Bleak House. And, yes, he could be – wordy, anyway. Not really circumlocutious in the way he meant.
The word I’m thinking of isn’t a form of “Dickens” though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Are you thinking of “Jamesian”, from Henry James’ contorted, extremely long sentences with lost and lots of internal clauses that finish out the other side?
Or something simpler and cruder?
euphuistic!
That’s the word!
1: an elegant Elizabethan literary style marked by excessive use of balance, antithesis, and alliteration and by frequent use of similes drawn from mythology and nature
2: artificial elegance of language
Euphues, character in prose romances by John Lyly
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
After you nail down your electives
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Except
for those troublesome general ed requirements.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
i know i know i know
it just seems like a small price to pay
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You are a grad student
You and I have much different values of education.
It’s why you will likely have a more successful career with whatever you do, but while I’m young I will get to work full time at a job I like, start saving up money for the future, and have a more enjoyable experience instead of being in classes for most of the day, then doing homework, projects, and essays in the night time, and also studying for a week for a quiz or test.
I do admire the work ethic of people like you, though.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
enjoyable experience is subjective
I’ve done the 40-50 hour a week job, because I was over school, and it wasn’t long before I realized I’d rather work towards something I want. I just don’t do it in 8-9 hour shifts.
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Everyone is different
You are willing to devote most of, what, 6-8 years (i’d imagine after grad school, yeah?) to have a better life after school (not to say you don’t have a kick ass life now, afterall, you are Maddz), while that isn’t appealing to me, even with the potential rewards after.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it's mostly because
what I want to do involves a lot of school. If I found that I had really enjoyed the video game industry, the bachelor’s would have been enough.
Not getting one wasn’t an option.
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What is it that you want to do?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Teach.
At the collegiate level. Or high school. But I also have a natural love of learning so it dovetails pretty nicely.
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I'm sure it is
I’m also sure I would not be able to handle that age. Or enjoy it. At all.
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They’re cute at that age. Also, they’re more likely to follow what you say from the outset. Your job is more like trying to get them to think cognitively about what they’re doing.
“Following” and “think cognitively” seem to be different. And it’s not what I’m interested in.
I’m not entirely sure why you’re telling me I should teach middle school.
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Because getting your foot in the door is more important in this job market than what you want to teach. Think of it as ‘paying your dues’.
Especially if you want to teach English or History.
Still don’t understand where this is coming from. But thanks, I’ll keep that in mind.
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more serious
about teaching in college or community college.
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Oh yeah, you definitely need all the schooling you've done and will do for that
Good luck to you, high school kids are bastards, lol. I hope you get to teach at a good college, not some junior college, it’s basically 13th grade for freshman.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
It would be a small price
if I didn’t spend half my college years studying crap that didn’t have anything to do with my major, and then only getting two years to hone my skills for my career.
Five zombies. Four bullets. Two zombies.
I dunno, if I have any regrets about college, it’s not paying more attention to my general ed stuff.
Fortunately I can always fall back on my SQL skills to get women.
Well I did explain to my girlfriend that I know what all the numbers on Matt Kemp’s Fangraphs page mean and she’s still with me for some reason.
WAIT! were you wearing the glasses while telling her this?
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I don't know why
But it’s not a turn on when you talk about how Kershaw is one of the most underrated players in baseball and how Matt Kemp doesn’t suck (this was in 2009, btw, lol) and is better than Ethier, for some reason. I guess I’ll never know why :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yeah
I know math is needed more than most other subjects, but I’ve been dreading taking once since my freshman year. Science I don’t even want to think about.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I go to a small college in Ventura County (Moorpark)
not exactly a great choice of interesting history subjects. Sorry, Chicano Studies sounds boring as hell. Same with women’s studies. World History starting with Mesopotamia was kind of interesting, but I’m more a lover of US history, with everything else taking a back seat.
Also, to get a degree I still need to take all the other bullshit classes I hate. Fuck science classes, pretty much.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I think you should take woman’s studies. And I say this seriously because a) it’ll challenge the way you think b) it’ll challenge the way you perceive the world c) IT IS A GREAT WAY TO MEET CHICKS ARE YOU KIDDING ME
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Yes.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
The last sentence would be my biggest motivation
Honestly though, if I’m not interested by a class, I won’t do good in it most likely. It’s something I’m hoping I can work on when I go back likely next semester.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
also
if you like US history, you should consider Chicano Studies because US History isn’t only the study of white dudes
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Plus the history of the Americas
before the white people showed up is pretty damn fascinating.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It's not that I only want to learn about white dudes, lol
But I would guess a lot of that would be learning about the classes of society and a lot of political stuff, which I’m just whatever on.
My absolute favorite area of study is war. Shocking I’m sure, but learning about the American Revolution, Civil War, World War I, and World War II are better than any other topic of any other subject I’ve ever had in any form of schooling to me. World War I in particular. I had an English class two years ago that I had to write an 8 page thesis paper on, and I managed to write it on how World War I was started (Gavrilo Princip, ftw!). I enjoyed writing that paper more than any paper I’ve ever written, except maybe the one I did in my junior year of high school on the Kennedy Assassination.
Besides learning about wars, I enjoyed learning, as a whole, how the US really came to be. I suppose Chicano Studies and Women’s Studies would be a big part of that, I just have a big feeling I won’t enjoy it as much as I did my US History class.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
WWI is very fascinating. US history generally depresses the hell out of me.
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Read any cracked.com articles lately :P
WWI basically was started by Nationalism, Industrialization, countries arming themselves and building up their armed forces, treaties, and Austria-Hungary bullying Serbia.
Also, Franz Ferdinand and his security detail were freaking idiots, and could have gotten out of Serbia without being killed. But a serious of moronic choices and good luck (I’d say more moronic choices, though) for Gavrilo Princip, and the World explodes into war.
I’m feeling a bit rusty on everything though, I’d love to get movies from the history channel or something about it and just watch them one weekend.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I make 10 dollars an hour, more than I've ever made
many of the friends I have are looking for jobs and can’t find them, and for now I’d rather work 40 hours a week then go to school. I’m very content with what I’ve got going on right now.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Well
he would probably have to sell his car.
I don’t know man, I am very fortunate to have my job and I am pretty darn sure I would not tet it now with no college degree. I know it seems tough to have no cash and study stuff that seems like a waste time but that is what your 20s are about.
Just my unsolicited two cents here. Now more fast food talk.
No, you are exactly right
I SHOULD be going to school to get a degree (if anything, I will at least get my AA, but eventually I would like to go to a 4 year college, I will just be behind a lot of other people my age). I have a lot of respect and admiration for the people I know who dedicate themselves to school and getting their degrees, I just see what it does to them stress wise and fun wise, and it kinda sucks to see…until they graduate and get kick ass jobs, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I sit all day.
Grad student + part time desk job = ouch
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I can't stand for very long
without killing my knees. My brother in law told me it’s because I lock them when I stand, but i feel so weird bending them even slightly while I’m standing.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Not everyone can be a super soldier like Keithc and stand at attention any old time :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
with all this talk of keith and his hot/awesome wife, I don’t want to know about him standing at attention any old time :(
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Has anyone seen proof of Keith’s hot wife? i’ve only heard the stories from Keith, and I don’t know if we can trust his word ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
He also said he doesn't eat strawberries
What kind of a sick fuck would lie about that?
Keith’s word = gold! :)
Or that he wouldn't
piss on LSU.
It is sad what we know about Keith.
But it will be useful when KeithC’s kid starts asking questions later in life.
with my luck, my kid will want to attend any school in the SEC not named the University of Arkansas.
Send her out west
The schools here are always looking for diversity and her accent will surely add to that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
She has specifically asked for me not to post pictures of her on here. doing what I’m told is what I’m good at.
she’d be pissed if she knew there was a pic of our daughter on here.
Need to get that moved.
Lol, I can understand that
Just some of us think you’re a lying sob, that’s all. As long as you’re ok with it :P
jk
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
If you can follow instructions you can.
You are taught from day one, not to lock your knees in the POA.
It will hurt, and you will cut off the circulation of blood to your grape and pass out.
:)
I can only imagine the scene that would unfold when that happened
lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
heh
my back problems where caused by flipping over my handlebars while mountain biking, and landing on my back.
I want to make them beautiful, but they always turn out WRONG! That one... too fat! This one... too tall! This one... too symmetrical!
Ok, so for me
9 is Martin.
10 is miller
11 is Garcia
You know what lucky number 12 is going to be (oh, 12 is the greatest number ever, for your information), I think some of you may have an idea :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’m watching TV and all of a sudden more political commercials come on, and I’m thinking, “aren’t there laws against this?”
Then I remembered I am watching something recorded.
Is that an endorcement to work instead of go to school :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
hahaha
depending on the kind of student, sure! there’s something in the air or the weather or something, everyone is freaking out right now.
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I have some friends that think I should do it
the big stumbling block is my absence of faith. :)
There are some denominations with female clergy, I know a few women in my program who are going for ordination. As of this moment, it’s just not for me.
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yeah
that faith thing is important.
this doesn’t fit here but I think its how some think about other religions.
Reverend Lovejoy lists Apu’s religion as “Miscellaneous” in the 4th season episode Homer the Heretic (“Hindu!” snaps Apu, “there are 700 million of us.” To which Lovejoy sarcastically replies “That’s super.”; this occurred well before Apu’s marriage, however).
That is not an issue
If you are only in it to make money.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wow the sky looks really nice right now.
/end of sweet and sentimental crap
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
being awesome
and also, english
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And here is when we all find out that Maddz and Josie are actually the same person.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
this trick we’re playing being in two parts of the country and being two different people is most impressive if we’re the same person.
Also, who gave us that lovely quote in your signature. Also, is I really such a hard button to press?
a meercat did it
apparently typing is very difficult for them
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I was gracious enough to insert the “[sic]” just for you!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
She has to
study for the former? I DON’T THINK SO!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I can see
fucking an ellipse, but an ellipsis?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
those
… you see sometimes between quotes.
From wikipedia
Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, “omission”) is a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word in the original text. An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought, or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis) (apostrophe and ellipsis mixed). When placed at the end of a sentence, the ellipsis can also inspire a feeling of melancholy longing. The ellipsis calls for a slight pause in speech.
I know what an ellipsis is
It was a joke regarding the physical form of it vs. the ellipse.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oh my God
The dead eyes woman from the All-State commercial (and the silent role in the Captain Morgan commercial) was on The Good Guys a few weeks ago.
World colliding!
Martin
It think you guys are optimistic about martin…
He’s not even in my top 15..I rank Eovaldi ahead of Martin now…even though I think Eovaldi ceiling is probable SU maybe CL
pitchers after Withrow and Webster…are Gould…Wilborn..Eovaldi.Solano…lindblom and then martin.
I give Martih a half yr if he doesn’t turn it around..convert him to position players where he was a HS stud at 3b with power..
Wow, Martin under Eovaldi?
That’s rough. Martin still has gobs of potential, if not as a starter, maybe he can one day go back to 3B. I wish he would have just been a 3B to start.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The "maybe he can one day go back to 3B"
is more of a dream than anything close to a reality.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Martin
You are right about potential…Martin has gobs of potential…but not improving as Pitcher. he has a top 3bman in HS..with power which we need.
Right now..Martin has a plus Fb he can’t command well…a curveball that has potential as plus that he can’t command well. Eovaldi at least has Plus Fb and dev offspeed. and has command. Because Eovaldi has not develeoped that next offspeed pitch yet after 2 yrs..and a 3rd offering..i don’t think he will make it as SP..he giv sup too many hits….however I think he will make a great SU and posible CL. He is a good Gball guy.
We sometimes don’t look at that command issues with our pitchers…
If you forget about Martin as a 1st rd pick..i don’t think his production even merits top 10 discussion…much less top 15.
Wilborn has a plus FB..good curve and changup…right now he is on track to pass Martin if his first half in 2011 looks good on path to SP..Wilborn looks like Kuo when I have seen him pitch.
Martin below Wilborn????
Wilborn is ooooold. Too early to write off E. Martin’s potential as a pitcher.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
complaining about martin below wilborn
what about lindblom hahahahaaaha wilborn has some potential at least…. lindblom is hittable junk
question
why would you convert a position player to a pitcher, esp. if they were good at it? So not like Jansen, who was bad at being a catcher (aka’d as hitting)
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I remember when Martin was drafted
and they thought the Dodgers announced him as a 3B, Kevin Goldstein thought that was strange, I emailed him or messaged him he was announced as a pitcher, he then agreed with the pick.
I think they just thought Martin would be a better pitcher than hitter
I just really wish we could have seen what he had as a 3B.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I always respect coloblue's option becuase he knows his Dodger prospects
but i think having Marin below all of those other pitchers is a very big reach
by Brandon Lennox on Nov 4, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon thanks for support and I hope I am wrong!!!
I am very down on Martin…lots of potential but not showing it and may never??
I am looking at Command of pitches as a key factor in SP prospects..as well as other things like FB,cure ,chup etc..That’s why i like RDLR and Webster so much over even withrow because Withrow has major command issues esp LHB.
Martin has ave w/9ip over those 2 yrs with 100ip in each yr..last yr he walked 6.4w/9ip and gave up 9.5h/9ip..His lack of command of offspeed pitches is killing him..batters just wait til they see Fb and IF over plate they hit it.
I’d LOVE to see him rebound…but don’t see any evidence of improvement yr to yr and w/in 2010. His 2010 splits preasg were era of 5.3 and after ASG 7.7ERA..yikes..
Hope he does well in 2011 but I would not bet oo much on him.
Super Two level is lower this year
2 years, 122 days was the cutoff
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101104&content_id=16004318
Foiled again by Uncle Google!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Speaking of Uncle Google
My dad (iiidown) was trying to think of the name of someone who Charlie Finley, in the 70s, used as a pinch runner pretty much exclusively, and had nearly no at bats, but a huge amount of stolen bases.
Do you know anyone who might fit this description?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
He had exactly zero AB, not "nearly no"
So, how about Matt Alexander? ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah he thought it was someone with Washington as the last name
He at first thought maybe Ron Washington (I had brought him up and he mentioned it), then thought it wasn’t.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
i humbly submit
that we use “fungo” in a context completely different than its intended.
For instance, “Eric is such a fungo.”
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Fungo you straight in the heart
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His signature looks like it says Herb Stashington
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Only five players (non-ptichers) have played over 100 games
and had 2/3 the number of plate appearances or less, compared to games played.
Herb Washington and Matt Alexander were two. Allan Lewis was Charlie Finley’s first pinch-runner experiment. The other two were Jack Reed and Ross Moschitto, who were some sort of OF defensive caddy’s for the Yankees in the 1960s.
I can’t actually make Herb Washington show up in that b-r play index search because I have to exclude pitchers, and Washington’s only “position” ever (PR) doesn’t show up on the menu!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Matt Alexander had the longest career of those guys
over nine seasons, he appeared in 374 games and had 195 plate appearances, but only had a 71% SB success rate.
Allan Lewis appeared in 156 games and had only 31 PAs, with 72% basestealing success.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Lewis
did that over the course of six seasons.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Since Delias Man mentioned this earlier
the Raider game is a sellout, meaning the game will be on TV locally
Just sent the email to my boss requesting a meeting on Monday to discuss my move within the company.
He’s gonna be pumped….
the email should have said
to discuss HIS move. That would get his attention.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
What sort of widgets
does your company make/sell/smuggle/push?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
/traffic
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Everybody just went to McDonald’s.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I guess the Rockies didn't decline that option for Miguel Olivo after all
per Thomas Harding / MLB.com:
The Rockies have traded C Miguel Olivo to the Blue Jays for a player to be named.
The dreaded player to be named
Speaking of, who’s the PTBNL on the Dotel trade?
"Marriage is the leading cause of divorce"
Wonder how that worked
Maybe Toronto called Colorado and said, hey, if you are thinking of not exercising Olivo’s option, we’re interested enough to trade you something for him, if you will exercise it.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Last night I tweeted some line that had a Chuck Norris reference in it
Within seconds (literally couldn’t have been more than a minute or two) I had this e-mail:
Chuck Norriz (ChuckNorriz) is now following your tweets (DavidYoungTBLA) on Twitter.That is impressive.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Nothing really new in Dylan Hernandez's
article, but there is this line that raised my eyebrow.
Colletti said he believes the Dodgers have enough experienced players to carry a novice like Paul, Mitchell or Oeltjen in their lineup.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Heh
Tony Jackson’s was
“[The search] continues,” Colletti said. “It might be a combination of Xavier Paul and [Trent] Oeltjen. Jay Gibbons can get some time there. Russ Mitchell could get time there. As of right now, it is what it is, but we have a long winter ahead of us.”But Dylan’s line implies that Colletti bothered with a justification, a line of reasoning, on why that would work. Still, I find it hard to believe that he is really thinking like that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Made a wishful correction in his subheader
He still can re-sign with the team, but Dodgers might prefer a cheaper superior alternative in left field.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
IVironAndSteel's avatar
in the small form you see on this page, looks like he’s wearing a bra or holding two softballs in front of his chest.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
LOL
All I can say is wtf, hahaha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Oh god damnit, now I can kinda see that
I need a new avatar now, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
New avatar
Of my great new car :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Eclispe
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Rockies have traded catcher Miguel Olivo to the Blue Jays in exchange for cash considerations or a player to be named later, according to a press release from Toronto.
The Blue Jays have until midnight to decide whether to exercise Olivo’s 2.5MM option for 2011. The veteran is a Type B free agent, meaning that he could potentially net the Blue Jays a compensatory draft pick if they decline.
Ah, right
the current contract is still in force! I wonder if Toronto wants Olivo, would consider offering him arb (which they’d have to do to get a pick), or simply want to pick up the option. Interesting.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
AMiller
Miller ended up with tired arm last yr when he was called up and his FB went from 90-95 to 88-92 so he didn’t not do as well in AA. this was his first full yr as pitcher..
So he had a very successfull A+ yr with ERA of less than 3 inh CAL league! and lead league in ERA and OBA for pitchers who threw 100ip or more.
he should be fine in AA this next yr..
Compare 2010 Miller to Martin’s production while on same team…that says it all.

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