Dodgers 200 Minor League Countdown: 190 - 181
Here is the next part of my Dodger prospect countdown. This isn't the most exciting group, although there are a few names that minor league junkies should recognize. As a reminder, my ranking includes players in Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications: (1) played in the Dodgers minor league system during 2010, or were injured during the entire 2010 season; (2) is still within the Dodgers organization as of season end; (3) will be under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2011; and (4) the player is still considered a prospect by Baseball America Standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors, regardless of service time. Also, remember that the players age I’ve listed is their age as of the start of the 2011 season.
190. Ronny Lugo, RF (46 games in DSL in 2010) Signed by Dodgers in 2009 6’2”, 170 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed .231 average, .654 OPS, 2 HR’s, 18 RBI’s, 6 SB’s Pre 2010 Rank: 157; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A Ronny Lugo was signed out of Venezuela prior to the 2009 season, but ever since his debut he has posted pretty dismal stats. In fact, the only damage that Lugo did in 2010 came against left handed pitchers, as righties limited him to a .203 average. The one good thing about Ronny is that he is versatile as an outfielder, but that will only get you so far. Overall because his offensive numbers this year did not show any improvement from 2009, and because he is almost 21 years old, I’m guessing that Lugo’s baseball career is probably done. 189. Johan Garcia, 3B (78 games in HiA, 16 games in LoA in 2010) Signed by Dodgers 4/19/05 6’0”, 170 lbs, 24.5 years old, bats right handed .243 average, .610 OPS, 3 HR’s 33 RBI’s, 9 SB’s Pre 2010 Rank: 186; Pre 2009 Rank: 155 Johan Garcia has been in the Dodgers organization for quite some time now, but he has never really done much of anything. His career batting average is below .240, he only six total homers his six seasons, and he doesn’t really have a whole lot of speed. In fact, he has had such a dismal career that his 2010 season was actually one of his best years yet. His .243 average was the 2nd highest of his career, and his 33 RBI’s almost doubled his previous season high. I guess the one thing that Garcia has going for him is that he is a versatile infielder, as he can play 3B, 2B, and SS. At 24 years old, Johan doesn’t seem to have much of a future in baseball, but the Dodgers might just keep him around as a utility player for another season.
See #'s 188 - 181 after the jump
188. Victor Araujo, RHP (14.2 IP in DSL in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers in 2010
5’11”, 171 lbs, 21.25 years old
2-0, 2.45 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 2.25 FIP, 11.66 K/9
Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Victor Araujo had outstanding stats in 2010, but he still has many flaws as a potential prospect. First, 2010 was his first taste of professional baseball even though he was already 20 years old during the season. Second, Araujo is very small for a pitcher as he stands at just 5’11”. Third, Victor only threw 14.2 innings in 2010 so while his stats were good, the sample size is much too small to pass any judgment on him as a player. Overall, the negatives outweigh the positives for Araujo, so unless he has another great season in 2011 while throwing a lot more innings, this will probably be the last time you read about him.
187. Steve Cilladi, C (11 games in Arizona League in 2010)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 33rd round
5’9”, 182 lbs, 24 years old, bats right handed
.292 average, .796 OPS, 1 HR’s, 3 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2010 Rank: 193; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Despite being 23 years old, Cilladi only participated in 11 games in the Arizona Rookie League in 2010. In fact, even though he was drafted in 2009, Cilladi has only played in 26 professional games. To provide a little background on Cilladi, his dad was a former athletic trainer for the Rockies and Cubs, so I’m sure he knows something about conditioning. He played college ball in the NAIA with the Kansas Wesleyan Coyotes, and during his four seasons there Steve hit .267 with 76 hits, so he wasn’t exactly a masher in college. In addition, he wasn’t even the full time starting catcher during his Senior year. Since he’s a catcher, Cilladi proves some value to the Dodgers since he can help out in spring training, but besides that I’m not sure how much use the Dodgers have for a 24 year old without much experience.
186. Jorky Infante, 3B (57 games in DSL in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers in 2009
6’0”, 155 lbs, 20 years old, switch hitter
.270 average, .697 OPS, 2 HR’s, 14 RBI’s, 13 SB’s
Pre 2010 Rank: 167; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Born in the Dominican Republic, Jorky Infante has a great name. He made his professional debut in 2009, but had terrible stats in limited appearances as an 18 year old. In 2010, Infante was the DSL Dodgers everyday 3rd baseman, and made 13 errors at the hot corner in 49 games. At the plate, however, Infante proved to be a pretty good all around player, hitting .270 with a couple of homers and stealing 13 bases. A switch hitter, Infante also showed good plate disciple as he walked 28 times against just 27 strikeouts. Jorky will be 20 years old when the 2011 season starts, and since his stats don’t warrant a move to a US based league, the Dodgers will have to decide if he is worth keeping around in the DSL for another year.
185. Ariel Botello, RHP (32 IP in DSL in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers in 2010
6’2”, 217 lbs, 21.25 years old
2-1, 3.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 4.39 FIP, 6.75 K/9
Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
The 2010 Dominican Dodgers pitching staff was full pitchers who were too old for the DSL, and Ariel Botello is another perfect example. 2010 was Botello’s first season even though he played the entire season as a 20 year old, and the Dominican native put up decent stats. He didn’t strike out a ton of batters, but his ERA was respectable and batters hit just .237 against him. He has a decent pitcher’s frame at 6’2”, but I really don’t see anything too special about Ariel. At the end of the day, he is really just a body used to fill the Dominican Dodgers roster.
184. Miguel Sanfler, LHP (70 IP in HiA in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers 10/2/02
5’11”, 165 lbs, 26.5 years old
0-3, 5.40 ERA, 1.64 WHIP, 4.27 FIP, 6.17 K/9
Pre 2010 Rank: 162; Pre 2009 Rank: 102
The highlight of Sanfler’s career was probably in 2005, when he was rated by Baseball America as the 19th best prospect in the Gulf Coast League. In their write up, BA said that Miguel boasted a 95 mph fastball and a devastating curveball. Five years later, Sanfler’s stuff seems to have faded. He has spent the last 4 years in A-ball (two in LoA and 2 in HiA), and has not performed well in any of those seasons. In fact, his 2010 stats were almost identical to his 2009 stats when he had a 5.48 ERA, a 1.64 WHIP, and a 6.13 K/9. Similar to years past, Sanfler’s poor control and lack of a strikeout pitch were his biggest problems in 2010 as his strikeout to walk ratio was just 1.41 for the year. The one positive for Sanfler is that he has been a workhorse through his career, and continued that trend in 2010 with 70 innings out of the bullpen. Currently a minor league free agent, my guess would be that the 26 year old will not be back with the Dodgers in 2011.
183. Josh Walter, RHP (95.2 IP in HiA in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers 6/27/08
6’4”, 250 lbs, 26 years old
1-10, 6.59 ERA, 1.83 WHIP, 5.45 FIP, 8.00 K/9
Pre 2010 Rank: 99; Pre 2009 Rank: 189
After a good season in 2009, there was some buzz about Josh Walter as a potential prospect. I didn’t buy into the hype, however, and now I think you can forget about him forever. The 25 year old had an ERA of 6.59 and - get this - he posted a win/loss record of 1 - 10 for the 66ers in 2010. He also allowed 13 homers in 95.2 innings, and ranked 2nd in the California league with his 64 walks. Signed as a non drafted free agent during the 2008 season out of Texas State, 2010 might just have been the last season as a Dodger for the big guy.
182. Andres Perez, OF (41 games in HiA in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers 8/9/09 out of independent ball
6’0”, 200 lbs, 26.75 years old, bats right handed
.285 average, .768 OPS, 2 HR’s, 20 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2010 Rank: 150; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
As I mentioned last year, Andres Perez played his college ball at Stony Brook University, and during 2006, his Senior season, he hit .327 and led the team with 7 HR’s. Undrafted out of college, Perez signed with the Yankees as a non drafted free agent in September of 2006. In 2007, his first professional season, he played at 4 different levels ranging from the Gulf Coast League to HiA. After an uninspiring season, however, he was cut from the Yankees, so he signed with Tampa Bay before the 2008 season. After a mediocre season in the Florida State League, he was again let go again. Unable to find a team to sign with at the beginning of 2009, Perez kept his baseball hopes alive by playing ball with the Newark Bears. After tearing up the independent league, he signed with the Dodgers midseason in 2009 and played in the California League where he put up very strong numbers in 26 games. He returned to the 66ers in 2010, but was hurt for most of the season and was very unimpressive for a 26 year old. A minor league free agent, I am pretty sure that Perez will not be in the Dodgers organization in 2011.
181. Luis Rosano, RHP (29.2 IP in DSL in 2010)
Signed by Dodgers in 2009
6’2”, 190 lbs, 19.75 years old
1-4, 6.37 ERA, 1.99 WHIP, 6.40 FIP, 4.55 K/9
Pre 2010 Rank: 145; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
While Rosano wasn’t great in 2009, he was slightly intriguing because at the time he was just 18 year old and had a solid pitchers frame. I think all expectations of him ever becoming a prospect are gone, however, as Rosano had a terrible season in 2010. The young man from Venezuela had an ERA of 6.37, and walked as many batters as he struck out (15). He also allowed 5 homers in his short season, and opposing battings hit .352 against him. Luis will be 20 years old by the time the 2011 DSL season starts, so if the Dodgers do decide to bring him back he’ll be one of the older players in the league.
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Sanfler
is the name that jumps out. He coulda been somebody. I’m noticing a trend with these guys of being old for their league and not very good.
Semi - Cheap LF Help
Looking over the candidates who might be free agents after the non – tender deadline I see some solid right handed hitting outfielders who I think could help us either in a platoon with Paul or Gibbons.
Scott Hairston – always a fave of mine, will post a plus .800 OPS against LHP, can even play CF, would be a better right fielder then Andre. Injuries have plagued him most of his career.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=1926&position=OF&season=0
Connor Jackson – Another fave, another player where injuries have decimated his value, another player who will easily put up a plus .800 OPS against LHP. Strictly a LF, but could also help Loney against LHP at 1st base.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=5997&position=1B/OF&season=0
Wily Aybar – could also help at 3rd / 1st, switch hitter but better from the right side, nothing special but would give some pop off the infield bench, not a lot but some.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=2192&position=3B/DH&season=0
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I like Jackson out of that group. Eric mentioned yesterday that ideally the LF would be RH and able to play 1B. Check and ccheck.
I can see Russ Mitchell getting a bench spot where he could potentially play 1B/3B/LF with some pop off the bench. In that regard, I don’t think a RH OFer is a necessity.
Much like others with Hu, I refuse to acknowledge Mitchell’s practical presence with this organization. I don’t see a career minor leaguer suddenly landing a key bench job with this team.
Looking at Ned's past
I’d expect they will keep Mitchell in AAA as depth, but go with a proven veteran for the bench role. If they use Mitchell as the bench guy, and someone gets hurt, we really have no one else to move up and help out. Carroll is Right handed, so Aybar gives you the look from both sides and can play the corners while Carroll takes care of the middle infield.
Mitchell can do what Aybar does and cheaper, but I don’t see Ned going that route.
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I’ve boosted Aybar for awhile, but I’d rather see him as the bench guy.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
I only see him as a bench guy
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Remind me to read thoroughly next time :-)
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Mitchell is the kind of guy they would keep IMO. He has no future as a regular, but can (in theory) play 1B, 3B, and the OF corners with some decent RH pop. It wouldn’t shock me at all to see Mitchell gain a bench spot.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Emphasis on the “in theory” part. I’d be shocked if he didn’t embarrass himself at one or more of those positions.
I think it all depends on who they sign for LF. If they sign an everyday starter, like Damon, I think they will be more free with that last bench spot.
I think Paul makes the bench, if only to give them a backup CF (not that they couldn’t sign one, of course).
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Has Ned
ever had a rookie on the bench for an infield spot that was not due to an injury replacement?
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Not that they thought had a future, nope.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Does Paul have a future?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Ha Ha
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But really
how often do you read someone got fired because a player didn’t make progress. Granted it was the coach who made the comment after he was let go but as Reg alluded to, that has to make Paul wonder what the Dodgers think of him that they fired a coach because he still sucked at things they wanted him to be better at.
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Especially when the alternative is
maybe Paul just sucks.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe they think
he still has that Shane Victorino potential then. If they can a coach for not developing him properly, they must still think he is worth the investment, but who knows the real reasons why they fired that guy.
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Well if anyone
can do that, then probably Mitchell because he does meet the needs to be able to play 1st against LHP, help at 3rd if Blake, gets hurt, can play the corners in the outfield, and in an emergency can even play 2nd while giving the team some pop off the bench.
I’d give him the spot, will be curious if Ned does.
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Not at 2nd
that was the Pirates
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For some reason, I like him and hope he gets a bench spot. He has some power but would probably be exposed as a fulltime player.
He's been compared to Kevin Millar
and it took Millar until he was 27 to get any significant playing time because he had a skill set that was basically a corner who could play the outfield who could only hit LHP.
I will be surprised if Mitchell does not develop into a lefty hitting corner infielder or outfielder but he’ll never be a full time player.
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I just have a feeling
that Ned is going to address LF in a move that non of us suspect. I think Fukudome would be a decent get in a salary dump. He plays good defense and could move Ethier to LF and even though his production has dropped off after the season gets going, he still puts up decent a OBP .
But is it unexpected anymore if we expect the unexpected?
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so, by that reasoning........
Listen carefully. The pellet with the poison’s in the vessel with the pestle, the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
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Why?
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because he's dead?
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Live and learn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7qYcyUjDPU
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Song turns to shit pretty fast.
No one wanting to hear a Dodgers song wants to even hear about Orlando Cepeda
you have no stick to it ness
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Good research. I think of this group Hairston probably is the best hitter, but Jackson is intriguing because he can play 1B. I think the Dodgers have to be at the point with Loney that they’re hoping, not expecting, that he becomes the player they thought he was. With that in mind, they should prepare to get someone else at bats against LHP.
That's enough material
for the 1 P.M. mini-article and worth the front-page exposure.
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Brandon what are the chances
of someone in the 200-100 prospect group breaking out and making an impact in MLB?
I actually had rubby at #35 last year
even through he barely played…I’ve always liked his velocity
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
0%
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I had Webster
at #11 last year…the #100 ranking was the year before that
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
How about Kenley Jansen?
before he became a pitcher. There’s always hope!
I actually had Jansen
at #16 last year when he was a pitcher, and believe it or not I had him #36 the year before that when he was still a catcher because I thought he might turn into something. Not saying I predicted he’d be a pitcher and have this success, but I always knew he threw hard and thought he’d be useful in the future somewhere on the field.
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
True - I missed the range of 100 - 200
I read that with out reading about this current group.
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in the 180 - 200 range..
I’d say basically 0%. Once we start getting into the 170 and below there is more of a chance.
If you go all the way down to #100, then there are definitly sleepers in that group who could have an impact. As I mentioned in my original post Allen Webster was #100 two years ago, and in looking at this year’s list up to #100, there a few college drafted pitchers who could breakout, as well as high school drafted players or international guys who could potentially just be late bloomers.
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
I'd go back to zero again
unless of course Brandon is doing a terrible job with this list and is missing obvious talent:)
Where was the 20 year relief pitcher who kind of exploded up the charts in 2010 ranked in the past? I would think he might be a guy to blow the 0% out of the water.
So let me change that. Anyone from 150 – 200 who is not a relief pitcher should have a zero chance of having a major league career if Brandon is doing a good job of evaluating the system.
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Javier Solano
was #111 last year. Rafael Ynoa was #172, but he’s most likely the exception because he was really terrible prior to last year, so i think his #172 ranking was justified last year
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, you may have missed on Ynoa
in that he might get a cup of coffee and maybe some tea.
Quite a jump for Solano – biggest jump in the ranking I’m going to guess?
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probably Solano for biggest jump
although Greg Wilborn is another candidate for the biggest jump since he was #124 last year. Wilborn had a 7.45 ERA and 2.12 WHIP in the Pioneer League in 2010 which is why he was ranked pretty low last year
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Greinke
Greinke is one of the Rangers’ backup plans if Lee splits. The Royals like Rangers pitching prospects Martin Perez and Tanner Scheppers. But it likely will take more than that to get Greinke, who has 15 teams on a no-trade list that kicks in for 2011.
The Royals are out for blood.
They have to be if they are giving up Grienke
and Scheppers sucked so bad when they tried to convert him to a starter he looks like only a relief pitcher. I’d want a lot more then Perez and Scheppers for Grienke.
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How do Perez and Tanner rate as prospects?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
Tanner dominated as a relief
pitcher, not so much when they tried him as starter mid season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=schepp001tan
was 42 headed into 2010 by BA
Perez has stuff but the results were not that impressive, crazy walk rate, gets hit
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=perez-011mar
Number 17 by BA going into 2010
but he was only 19 in AA so actually still a top tier prospect
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Bench platoon and LF
For those who want Connor Jackson, his back and time in Oakland this past year was not good. I just don’t see it happening. I am still hopping that the Dodgers take a look at Berkman. He provides so much flexibility and also still has some power.
I’d take Berkman at 1B, if we happened to trade Loney. However, I don’t hink I want Berkman patrolling the OF for this team. Also, I don’t see the flexibility if Loney is still here since Berkman is basically a LHH these days.
I wonder if his struggles as a RHH
were because of the knee as well? feel free to correct.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Last I looked I thought it was a down trend
from before his injury but I could be mistaken. Like OB12 I do not think Berkman can play LF without getting hurt. Once bodies like his start breaking down I don’t think they stablelize.
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it'd definately
be a gamble.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
definitely*
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Fat Elvises never go back
to their lean, leather-bodysuit wearing selves. This is fact.
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Splits show he has sucked against LHP
for the last two years and as a 1st baseman has been unimpressive since 2005 against lefties.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=548&position=1B/OF&season=0
He should totally be only a LHH going forward even at his best you are talking an .810 OPS and any good RHH should be able to do better then that. Hell Lindsey/Mitchell could probably do that if they only saw LHP.
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Ellsbury
If the Red Sox are one of the likely destinations for Werth, I think the logjam would send Jacoby out of town…plus he and the Sox apparently don’t see eye to eye. He will cost less than Upton, both moneywise and return-wise in a trade. I still think that the ideal solution in the OF is to move Kemp to RF and Dre to LF for defensive purposes, and get a plus defender in CF while Tray develops.
The main impetus is to get a #2 hitter for the lineup (that’s not Podman) because as the roster is currently set, I don’t see a good option.
What would it take to buy low on Ellsbury? The Sox need relievers maybe?
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On the surface that sounds okay
but beneath the surface the Red Sox acquired Cameron to play CF because they found Ellsbury wanting as a center fielder. Even if they sign Werth they have two old outfielders in Cameron / Drew both with significant injury history as does Ellsburry. Not sure they would trade him this winter but even if they do, can he play CF or is he just another speedy Roger Cedeno who has no idea where the ball is going?
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If we do want a pure defense center fielder, Tony Gwynn Jr is getting non-tendered. He’s probably the best option if we can’t afford a real player, but man the Kemp/Uribe/Pierzynski/Gwynn/Pitcher part of the lineup would be a whole lot of out.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Pierzynski
Did I miss something or are you just torturing me?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Only if you like the sound of blood in your ears.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Get used to it
he’s coming
AJ is coming
hide the children
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if Russ is resigned
would he platoon?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
You cannot sign both a Golden God and a man born out of the ass of Satan. The entire clubhouse would be shrouded in fire and brimstone, like something out of Revelations.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
After deliberating I'm pretty sure the only reason I like AJ
is because everyone else hates on him but that is a poor reason. So no I do not want AJ on this team.
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As someone who is 1/4 Polish I can tell you with authority that
the name Pierznyski means “That Little Prick”
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he's a big dude
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Just sayin'...
;-)
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It was more a technology issue. That issue has since been solved, but the change in my habits has been hard to break.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Also, I don’t recall Jon ever (or rarely) have a problem with my hyperbole. The rule was against using hyperbole when something else will suffice, and I usually make sure that nothing, nothing, NOTHING else will suffice.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Rapmaster kinbote
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
He was freed here
and broke all ten rules in ten days.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Ten rules? It’s rule 11 and unstated rule 13 that I violate most often.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
that's what I meant
thanks
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
do you realize
how many of the 2005 White Sox we’d have then?? Uribe, Garland, maybe Pods, hell Konerko is a FA…Cliff Politte anybody?
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Flagged for Scary.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Not only have I stopped believing, I am now the Christopher Hitchens of the baseball blog-commenting world.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
you should change your avatar then
to Andre running into the eternal void
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he still WANTS to believe
he just doesn’t :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
And the caption:
THERE IS NO NED
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
ONLY
ZUUL!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
If you’re gonna go with “fuck it, everyone might have a career year” as your plan, you might as well get the masters.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
And that team wasn’t even that good. They got lucky to hold on as they crashed and burned down the stretch.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
and athletic trainers
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn't punch them
just knees them in the groin (allegedly)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
He fat.
Cabrera is a decent corner outfielder, but he wouldn’t get Kemp out of center.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Nono, it’s phat. That’s what the kids say — phat, pee aych ay tee. Melky Cabrera is phat. Don’t you know he used to be a New York Yankee?!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
He was a Yankme? Shit. I don’t want him in my city!
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
have you met our new manager? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
See Pancho already gave us Yankme
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no
it was inside us all along, Pancho just let us see it. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I’m beginning to think he was never really here — he was just a figment of our imaginations.
Were you real, Pancho?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
he's somewhere out there, believing in us
(starts singing Just One Person)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
And I do believe!
that’s why I came here in the first place.
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'd thought he'd be here this morning
but maybe he reviewed the comments and realized that maybe we are just a bunch of dicks and not the great site he was led to believe.
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Oh, we’re dicks. But the site IS great.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
FTFY
Oh, we’re dicks.ButThat’s why the site IS great.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Your really becoming big time
now that Ivdown is not here during the day to hold you down
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I think the next Karaokee meet upu
has to be done at a place 22 and up
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i miss you all too!
So you all liked the Yankme thing? Good…I know I do.
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I still think that the ideal solution in the OF is to move Kemp to RF and Dre to LF for defensive purposes, and get a plus defender in CF while Tray develops.
Ellsbury will not solve this problem. If you can snag him for a reliever sure, but he hasn’t been better than Scotty Pods offensively since 2008 and he can’t play defense.
Maybe we can get Drew back now that Boston has paid most of salary:)
- 07:$14M, 08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M per Cots
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Man Time flies when you are having fun
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lol
my Dad despises him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
but just think
of his stolen base percentage combined with Davey Lopes’ magical abilities, he’ll never get thrown out! The anti-TOOTBLAN !!
Seriously, I did forget Cameron is there in Boston, so maybe LF is a better fit…I still prefer him over Pods and Damon cos of youth, and we ain’t getting Crawford.
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I think I'd rather have
Damon then Berkman and totally Damon over Pods.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=185&position=OF#advanced
Damon would need no help from Lopes when he comes to stolen base %. 23 stolen bases over the last two years, been caught once.
Pretty consistent skill set. Not great but you know what you are going to get.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Damon and Ellsbury are both bad OFers
but Ells is cheaper and younger, though you do have to trade something for him. He also steals more bags.
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But with Damon, it’s only a 1 year deal anyway. These guys would just be placeholders in hopes that somebody like Sands can start. With that said, you really only need to worry about how they would do next year. I expect Damon is a better hitter.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
the thing with damon
is he’s left handed. I thought the quest was for a right handed OF?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Damon does not need to be platooned
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dont tell that to ned
seems like once the man has a plan, he sticks to it
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Only if it’s someone like Pat Burrell or Marcus Thames who you would sit every now and then
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Right
Sands is going to be our Left Fielder by August anyway:)
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
So how much are people predicting Damon will cost for the one year?
Just wondering…
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To much for his production
but that didn’t stop us from signing Uribe so why stop now.
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Oh, so you want production for the cash, Huh?
Why would Ned want to change his strategy now?
Schmidt
Jones
etc……….
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
As long as the initial offer doesn’t get returned.
/mailer-daemon’d
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Daemon's
Have you read the Dark Materials
http://www.philip-pullman.com/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=50
I’d expect you would love them. As would Maddz for the whole Theology part. Nothing like going to war against God and traveling through hell. Much better then HP to bad they mangled the movie.
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i've heard of them, another series I haven't taken the plunge in
I remember the controversy when the movie came out. Both about the theme of the story, and how the movie bascially neutered it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
You have to get through the first fifty
pages, then I think you get hooked once the traveling starts and the first bear is joined. The 2nd book was much better then the first but the fighting polar bears are kind of awesome in the first book and they did a great job of that in the movie.
Lot of cool concepts how each person has an animal attached to them that neither can live without if they get separated. Lot of cool concepts in that series including hell and heaven. The huge swipes at organized religon is what got neutered in the movie. I knew they could never make a movie where the goal of the protaganist is to do battle with God without changing everything.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
sounds a bit like LOTR
the slow start that is.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I found it odd
that the movies got successfully worse, while I found the final LOTR book to be my favorite.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
is there any way
I can say I disagree and just leave it at that?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
well
nolander has to agree
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
the hobbit is the best book
felt the LOTR books were only ok.
the movies, i liked the first one, two towers was my favorite, and saw ROTK once and thats enough for me. those movies be long.
read the Hobbit as a kid
never read the LOTR books, I liked the first film much better than the last 2, and the last one might be one of the worst Best Picture winners. Well, that’s saying a lot, but it was overrated.
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It was a cumulative award
for sure
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Yah they were neutered in the film and yet
there were still throngs of protests from religious groups against the film (presumably most of them hadn’t even seen the movie, as usual). Movie had some good sequences and cool look and wasn’t as good. Don’t think Chris Weitz was good choice for director.
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Someone was just telling me I need to read these books, was it’s Maddz? No I think it was my cousin Amber. Anyhow, yeah I’m gonna get on that ASAP, cause I did see the potential for the story in the movie
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
it’s a very classic story in that sense, btw, taking on the Gods and traveling to the underworld is straight out of EPIC 101
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Not Gods, thee God
this is not a mythology story.
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but it’s following the Epic path which is the point I was making and you skirted around with your monotheism
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Don't use big words with me girl
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I think she called you a skirt. Are you gonna let that slide?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
sorry, forgot that I was talking to a dilettante
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Sometimes I can figure the meaning based on the sentence but now I’m going to have to look this one up and I’m sure I’m not going to like what I’m going to read.
I give you around 10 hours of joy in your life and you call me names.
Humma help me here, I need a comeback, call Jose something for me besides big haired unemployed ex quidditch home living writer that nobody reads person.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
big haired unemployed ex quidditch home living writer that nobody reads person
….hipster?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t that describe most of the great writers who have ever lived (not the hipster part)?
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Add drunk, and maybe.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
sure, they are all ex-quidditch players
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He also had cookies and a lot of memories.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder
if all his cookies subjected him to targeted ads based on his browsing preferences
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It's not a 'Cash Rich' profession
(But it beats working at Taco Bell)
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
: a person having a superficial interest in an art or a branch of knowledge : dabbler
Yes, Yes I am superficial in all knowledge but one.
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and when I need advice on which brand of Bran Flakes to buy I’ll give you a call
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
You hurt me because you care
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But she's a Cal grad
On MLB Network last Friday, Bob Uecker recalled a time when he and Howard Cosell were kidding around on a Monday Night Baseball broadcast and Cosell responded: to Bob, “Ueck, you don’t have to get so truculent. You do know what truculent means.” Uecker, without missing a beat, said: "Of course, Howard. If you had a truck and I borrowed it, it would be a truck you lent."
Love Ueck
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i missed that show :(
but at least I know they’ll show it again.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Getting older, had a fluky power year the year before.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
So, how do USC fans feel about Newton being ruled eligible?
In light of Reggie Bush causing USC 2 years of bowl eligibility
The story to me
is that Newton was actually ineligible, for a day, yesterday, and nobody knew about it until today.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
and it could only be one year of bowl ineligibility! :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I am ambivalent BTW
If anything happens to Auburn, it will be down the road. The memories (of their loss to Oregon) will still remain.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Yea, but Oregon State has some major injuries, no?
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
At least 1. But that’s been true most of the season.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
They also have a habit of completely dominating the 2nd half
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That’s the takeaway I’m getting. NCAA places blame on dear old dad and neither the son nor Auburn knew about it.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Well, the broad strokes is that the investigation is still ungoing, just that Newton will play the rest of the year. So like with USC, the most likely to be punished are future players who never met Newton as opposed to the offender himself.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I've never liked that part
how the current USC group has to suffer for the sins of the guy making gazillions in the pro’s. Can’t we just kill somebody and move on?
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Yes
never a fan of the innocent paying for the price for the guilty.
Again I ask can’t we just kill someone? The booster perhaps, the AD, the coach, the athletes dad? Someone in Somalia?
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I do think there is some merit for punishing the school even after the violators are gone
For one, it happens all the time in other areas of business, if an employee breaks the law or regulation, many people outside the person who broke that law may suffer the consequences (a large recent example would be Enron). I am not saying someone breaking NCAA violations is the same as fraud but the general idea is the same.
And even USC fans will have to admit that Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush are among the top reasons for USC re-emerging as a College powerhouse, I mean for those 3 years that Bush and Leinart played together, they were probably two of the highest profiled athletes in Los Angeles and that certainly had a value to bringing in both recruits and dollars.
Those above arguments can also be used against the current system and for restructuring the NCAA, but that is for another day. This is not a new system, it’s the same one that has been in place for many years and USC as a member institution has to live by those rules.
That’s not justice. That’s the NCAA saying “Just us.”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Actually
for the NCAA and Auburn, this was a great move, gets the story out on a Wednesday (right before LeBron-Hate) and better yet, allows CBS to not have to worry about tainting their love fest for the SEC, Auburn and Newton on Saturday.
It's dog shit, really
So the NCAA rules Dillon Baxter ineligible because he took a golf cart ride, yet Cam Newton is eligible to play when there’s a scandal going on behind the scenes. Brilliant.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s more of a bullshit issue because Newton’s “innocent” because it was his dad but it was Bush’s parents, not Reggie, who got the free house years ago.
Oh well…once again the NCAA has shown it’s ineptitude and inconsistency.
On that note
SPORTSbyBROOKS: ’95: Damon Stoudamire suspended by NCAA for a game despite not knowing dad allegedly took benefits http://bit.ly/h6gy2G
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Chargers could be inching closer to L.A.
If Anschutz actually takes a 35% stake in the team.
Cliffs notes version
With it being Anschutz, I assume a Charger team that moves to LA would be in a brand new stadium somewhere in or around downtown?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Well, ya. You disagree? That’s kind of his thing. Why else would he get involved.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
What is it, 10 miles? I’d call that “around” downtown.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
No I don’t disagree. Just think its still complete speculation that Anschutz will buy a chunk of the team. Goldman was hired to look for offers to buy a chunk of the team (as Spanos is looking to jettison a portion of his share for estate planning reasons).
Sure, Anschutz is probably looking at the deal but that doesn’t mean much at this point. I’m sure Anschutz is also talking to the Vikings.
That would be the worst thing ever. I’d rather a team I hate didn’t move to LA.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
agreed completely
(though there should be a team in LA in general)
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Since I run the world — didn’t you know? — no, there shouldn’t. I love that I can drive places on Sunday. Football traffic will get in my way.
Football in LA, I CONDEMN THEE!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
It won't be worst than
anytime USC plays a home game (though 5:00 p.m. Saturday is probably better than 1:00 p.m. Sunday)
Sorry, once a condemnation has taken place, there is no appeal, even if the facts get in the way. It has to be that way; otherwise, the condemnation would have no teeth.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Appeal?
Even if a small package of money is left on your desk?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
I'm shocked, shocked by the suggestion that my whims are so easily manipu--
well, how much money are we talking about?
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Well, now that we've established that you're a slut.......
we’re now just haggling over price. (lol)
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
trying to churn out something for SBNLA on this, though I don’t have any new information
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
How bloody weird would it be
for ex Los Angeles Ram fans to have to welcome the Vikings into LA? I know most of us are dead but some of us can still rattle our bones.
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About as weird as all the LA Raider fans welcoming the Chargers.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
The best part of the Chargers coming to LA
is that there would still be more Raiders fans during games against the Raiders in LA.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
and it was more awesome that I heard your comment in the voice of William Wallace.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
That’s absolutely how I planned it.
When you’re old, dying in your bed, Charger fans will outnumber Raider fans in LA.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
“Snitches get stitches” might be the comment of the week, BTW
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
There is also the possibility
That a stadium would house two teams. So it could be the Vikings and the Chargers. Or Vikings and Bills or Chargers and Jaguars.
No one knows at this point but if Anschutz does buy a stake in the Chargers (or any other team) then its probably a done deal that they would move.
No Thanks.
I still remember the 9-7 losses in the mud in Minnesota.
Theres a dent in my hall closet from my FULL beer hitting it.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
with no Favre and Chilly
I could like them in LA, but man that’d mean LA would have taken the Lakers and the Vikings from Minnesota. At least they have Darko Milicic.
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If I had a dollar
for every time a team unhappy with its stadium was “rumored” to be interested in moving to LA, I’d be rich enough to buy a team and move them to LA myself.
they are expected to non-tender
Jose Lopez
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Re: Cam Newton
To me, the fascinating part is that here in Auburn, nothing in the thread above has still been reported.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST reply actions
I don't understand how Auburn fans can support him.
I mean, he is clearly the most evil person in history.
http://www.chadgibbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CAMESPN.jpg
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
The fake headlines are hilarious, LMAO
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
fake?!?!
Also did you hear about the Bama PA guy getting fired for playing unapproved songs during warmup? Songs like “Take the Money and Run”
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
And “Son of a Preacher Man.” Students also showred Newton with monopoly money.
I don’t pretend to know the truth, but I’ve met Newton, and honestly he seems like a decent kid. I hope this is the end of it.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I think it is strange that high profile names are vilified.
While I get the impression that SO many kids fly under the radar. Don’t get me wrong, if Newton broke the rules the NCAA should get involved, but the problem is the culture of major college athletics, not one kid who capitalized on it.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
All this talk of minor league prospects
has me reminiscing of the days when our farm system was so good, we won five straight NL ROYs. IIRC, it was Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo and Hollandsworth from ‘92-’96…ah, those were the days. Besides Kemp and Kershaw, who’s the most recent homegrown rookie to garner any decent amount of praise?
Loney, Martin, Billingsley, Broxton, Kuo, and Jansen
have all drawn various amounts of praise
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
It won't happen
but if Broxton was traded and Jansen was made the closer, my money would be on Jansen winning ROY.
Hollandsworth wasn’t that good, Nomo was a rookie by rule only, and Karros had great hair. Piazza was a once-a-generation talent, which puts him in his own category, and Mondesi was supremely talented but flawed.
I would say the Jax 5 (+ others) bumper crop showed signs of being even better than the group you mentioned.
I don't know
I’ll give you Hollandsworth but if we are just looking at the Jacksonville 5 (Guzman, Martin, Billingsley, Broxton and LaRoche), the Karros, Piazza, Mondesi and Nomo group put up more productive numbers thus far. Now if you want to replace Guzman and LaRoche with Kemp and Loney, it could begin to maybe equal it but Mondesi had good numbers and was the centerpiece in the deal for Shawn Green.
maybe
the discussion is about fanfare/praise/expectations over actual production, unless I’m reading it wrong
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Okay
Nomo and Piazza got more praise by themselves during those years than anyone in the Jacksonville Five. Is that a fair comparison, no but it is the truth.
The truth is that Nomo is not in this discussion
since he said
has me reminiscing of the days when our farm system was so good,
We both lived through that period and you should remember that neither Piazza or Karros had a lot of fanfare, more people thought they would fail then succeed. That said what Piazza and Mondesi did is so much more then anything the non pitchers have accomplished from 2005 on, but the pitchers Kershaw/Billingsley/Broxton/Kuo kick ass.
I think this would be a good story comparing the two era’s, do you want to do it?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Yeah sure, I can do it.
and we could probably talk about the difference of Drafts and minor league systems in general not being talked about that much unless you were a fantasy baseball player who had deep leagues (Mondesi was the first player I ever reserved on a fantasy team back in 1992)
Piazza’s story was more about Tommy than any chance he would become one of best catchers of all time.
Right
which makes it one of the greatest baseball stories in the history of baseball stories.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Just guessing that Piazza alone was almost as productive as all our guys combined.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I picture
that would have been Ned if he was a player
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Not quite
but if you put him and Mondesi together, they have 54.9 WAR during their careers in LA (Piazza 33.6, Mondesi 21.3) to 48 WAR (Loney, Kemp, Billingsley, Martin and Broxton)
Russ finished 9th in ROY voting because he came up the same year Duggla, Hanley, Johnson, Cain, Ethier and Zimmerman did. He made two All Star teams after that.
Loney got ROY votes too.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Your memory seems off
1. Nomo was not home grown
2. Hollandsworth sucked
3. Martin, Loney came up with more fanfare then Kemp
4. Broxton was kind of big
5. Billingsley had more fanfare then anyone but Kershaw
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
The man who actually deserved Hollandsworth’s ROY: F.P. Santangelo. Really.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
bad years for rookies
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Renteria and Kendall were also way better. To Holly’s credit he was the rookie OPS leader.
by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
And both Renteria and Kendall are still making money off of that idea.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
For a few years
Renteria might have been the best NL SS.
And you know how good Kendall was.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Not anymore, tho.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
It was, and still is
God help me, I was 8 years old in ‘92, so all I remember from most of those early childhood games are Dodger Dogs, cholos grilling carne asada in the left field pavilion, and a Dave Hansen pinch hit grand slam to beat the Giants 16-15…I can’t recall what year that game was, but I remember the energy in DS was like nothing I’d ever experienced before or since.
From Lakers beat reporter Kevin Ding
Lakers on 3-game losing streak. No Phil Jackson championship team has ever had 4-game losing streak. Game 4 in Houston tonight.
That is a cool stat.
I wish the Lakers were playing the Clippers tonight
so we could end the Laker championship quest right now.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Blake Griffin is a beast
If John Wall stays injured for too much longer, he won’t have a chance to make up the ground he’s quickly losing in the ROY race. I’m a Laker fan first, but I’ve liked the Clippers as well since I first saw them play at the Sports Arena…Kevin Ducksworth and Pooh Richardson (can’t forget those names) were playing that night. Good times.
The last (and only time) a Phil Jackson coached Laker team
lost 4 games in a row in a year they went to the NBA Finals was back in 2003-2004, where they lost all 4 games on a road trip, at Seattle, at the Clippers, at Minnesota and at Denver.
Seems just yesterday
we were talking about their great depth. Is Wall out this Sunday?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Unfortunately for us
The Clippers are playing the actual best team in the NBA tonight.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
From the teams the Clipper have played, clearly OKC ain’t shit.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Reached back like a pimp and...
Thanks Josie!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
So no chance of crossing them?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
don’t cross the streams. I’m not pulling out he Egon quote, mainly because I have used it within the last month.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
What would you know about ghosts?
Oh yeah.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
we prefer “Transcendent incorporeal being.”
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
You are one of 12 people on Earth who know how to correctly spell Ziggggggie Wolfe. :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
should I have put in there somewhere thanks to Delia’s Man for the tip?
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
The other football one
has been submitted
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
But a player also can’t take a cut of more than 20% if he is tendered a contract.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Just straight salaries in arbitration (through a hearing).
The incentives would have to be worked out on a separate basis.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
guys
this laptop allows me to comment virtually ANYWHERE.
this is going to be very bad for my productivity.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
who needs productivity when you have. . . .
THE INTERNET!

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
RTTS
My road to the show character on MLB the Show is reaching levels of awesome, but I am still under arbitration with a crappy Texas Rangers team, and they won’t trade me like I ask. I am desperately looking forward to FA.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions
the levels of realism their are actually kind of scary
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, it has been really weird for me. I am six years in, been in the majors for 4, when can I go to a team that has a chance of winning? :)
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve never played it, do you take all the at bats and play in the field or is it all simmed or a mix?
You can set it to however you like. I take all of the AB’s and about 1/2 of the fielding chances.
You can set it to take all opportunities. You can also change the baserunning sets to only control your player when he is the lead runner or all chances.
Exactly…I have played most of the games, but one season I just simmed along the way and increased my attributes. In 2014 I hit .310 with 31 HRs and 100RBIs at age 22. I regressed a little due to injury, but I am back on track in 2016
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
I have a guy that is 20 or 21. He is a RF switch hitter. I started with the Dodgers, got traded to Boston in a deal that sent John Lester to LA. I then got traded to the Angels. I’d never played a ML game until I got to Anaheim.
I hit about .305 with 17HR and 85 RBI in about 430 AB’s in 2012. Then got sent to AAA to start 2013. Havent played it since.
I was pissed. David Murphy is starting in front of me!
Sounds like when Loney got sent down :) You would get called up right away.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't played that in months
I’m busy on my NBA 2K11 Rockets franchise. They really suck, but have a lot of good young players, plus at least 2 first round draft picks for next year’s draft. The future is coming in Houston! But fuck them tonight.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
As are Cool Ranch
But don’t come near me with the regular Nacho Cheese flavor. Blah.
it works as a part of their munchie mix that they sale, but not as a sole party
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
disregard that sentence. I just wrote two articles and sat in on a conference call my word making part of my head is loopy
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
OT, but… I tried making a pumpkin pie. Results were not up to par =(.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
the mixing of the custard is the key, you have to get even distribution
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
It came out too sweet. I used the condensed milk thing that had the picture of the cow on the can. I didn’t add any other sweetener (the recipe I followed didn’t say to).
But the oven was a huge problem. My mom’s oven had the temperature numbers on the dial all scratched out and we could not find our oven thermometer. I wonder if that contributed to the taste not being quite right…
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
you might have gotten sweetened condensed milk, on accident, but I think they’re all SCM. The oven would only affect burning or not cooking, not sweetnes. Also could just be the brand of pumpkin you got, always make sure you taste everything as you cook.
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Le sigh. I think they’re all sweetened and the can said to use sweetened.
I used the Whole Foods organic pumpkin and everything. I dunno. It wasn’t my best effort, and I’m typically terrible at anything the first time I do it. I’ll try to do more research and attempt things again for Christmas.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I’d offer to help, but I’m in la ciudad de los angeles
by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well, home for me IS in the LA area… and my next attempt will also be while I’m in SoCal. But I think I can manage. I may run the ingredients and recipe by you first though…. expect some emails =X.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
pumpkin pie is super easy.
i cheat a bit and use pre-made pie dough (the roll out frozen/refridge kind) and use canned pumpkin puree, but just add some half and half, sugar, and a few spices… super easy.
Thanks. You made me feel better after my pathetic first attempt. Now I feel even more incompetent.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Thanks! That would be helpful.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
My email address on my profile forwards to my real one.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Maddz can do it for $25
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
So this was one of those ..... something something questions
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
is it hypothetical
if he’s already done it?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Go to an old folks home
Pretend to be nice to someone, and they will do it for free.
Happy Holidays! :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
All Dodger fans should watch this
sad ending but what a video, sung by the great Dodger fan, the Court Jester, Danny Kaye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7qYcyUjDPU
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
this is great. thanks!
Did not know he was a Dodger fan. Danny Kaye is one of my favorite actors…especially in the Court Jester: the pellet with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon, the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!
Thoughts on Loney for Ian Desmond, then mapping out this infield:
1B Blake
2B Desmond
SS Furcal
3B Uribe
Any good?
I doubt they trade him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
My thought is that it will never happen.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I think I like our current infield of Loney-Uribe-Furcal-Blake better. If we are going to trade Loney, I would hope that they would target BJ Upton.
then i would hope
they signed Dunn
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
may be what he wants
but not what he gets. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'm surprised this option
hasn’t been considered more seriously. After his injury-plagued year last year, how cheap could we get Derrek Lee for? I’d be happy with D.Lee/Uribe/Furcal/The Beard manning the diamond…not a bad defense at all, and it’ll only make the pitching look even more like money well spent.
Lee is one year removed from putting up a .972 OPS, though he may be seen as on the decline which would drive his price down. I think he could be had for 1/8 with and option.
nay
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Andruw Jones was one year removed from …….
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
CBlake’s bat doesn’t play at 1B any better than Loney’s.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
(looks over a the bench) i could think of a spot
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Schad from the Mothership
is reporting that there is zero chance Jon Gruden will become The University of Miami’s football coach.
A surprise from Boras
per Venezuelan reporter Augusto Cardneas:
CarGo just confirmed his agent (Scott Boras) has been negociating a long term contract with the #Rockies
Then would it be long term?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
josh byrnes sez
be careful who you hitch your wagon to and sign to long term contracts
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
More fodder for Phil’s article on the Pirates picking up former top prospects…Pittsburgh has now signed (former top MLB prospect) Andy Marte to a minor league deal,, per Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.
Wow really going after the BA top 20 in 2006
now they need Jeremy Hermida, Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, Connor Jackson, Salty
they already have
Marte, LaRoche, and Milledge
I have to think the top 20 in 2006 is as unfulfilled a class as you can have.
Guys who made it:
Verlander, Justin Upton, Billingsley, Liriano, Drew, Cain, Fielder, Zimmerman
Guys who might
D Young, Howie Kendrick, Ian Stewart,
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2006/26660.html
yes I know LaRoche was released.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Movember is over, shave the stache?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Keep it until pitchers and catchers report
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
That is why I wear a hat
so I don’t scare the children
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
you could grow out the beard and dye it black?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
To much of me is never a good thing
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
like this

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
That hurt
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
My wife is right
I focused right on the eyes.
Not a bad ’stache at all, but you are getting a bit grizzled to be sporting the other whiskers!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Not bad for 30 days
but the first two weeks it was kind of scarce, glad to see it filled out. This stache has no chance of staying unless I don’t want to kiss my wife for the rest of my life.
Strange, my first wife only liked me with a stache and Verdell hates me with it.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
My wife had never seen me without one
until I shaved it last New Year’s Eve. She like the w/out better.
I know which of your wives I would side with, if I were you.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wow that is a long time
sounds like you got a better reception after you shaved then I did. Based on the new Avatar I’d agree with her.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I agree too
I guess I didn’t realize how cheesy it was until it was gone. (I last shaved it off at 19, so 29 years or so in between shavings!)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Awesoke
your moustache was older then 90% of the TBLA membership
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I can’t believe I never used a “my fucking mustache is older than you” line here. Dang.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wow!
I’m pissed that I didn’t get to use that one first!
I usually use that one for ties. re: “i’ve got ties older than you!”
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
What does your wife say about it?
Not that, y’know, it’s her stache. You get to decide. But a female meercat unimpressed with a moustache can be a dangerous thing.
Now with 33% more Kavula
See above
you are right
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Extend it
Grow it into a full fu manchu, like Broadway Joe once sported:

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Can't do it
I seem to lose a bit just below the lower lip, but if I could that is what I’d go for.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I have the same
gap problem, almost nothing there, and then in the “beard area”, not enough either. I am simply just not that hairy.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Haha
I didn’t even know he was still IN baseball
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Belongs on the sleeve
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
so his DAR
is $-3?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Best response
came from Mariners minor league broadcaster Mike Curto:
Wily Mo could put up huge – HUGE – numbers in Reno
I once sent a man to Reno just to watch his career die?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, I found out we have to work on New Year’s Eve. But they’re gonna pay us time-and-a-half to compensate for the holiday.
Okay, that really sucks. Park your car 2 blocks away (towards where you live)
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
My wife has to work
Christmas Eve and Christmas Day; New Years Eve and New Years Day.
She is less than pumped.
yep
i actually had an interview today for another sub job, as my other one hasnt called me in at all yet haha
I will be on a furlough during the holidays. we are shutting down for a week or so.
I get off at 10 pm on 12/23 and go back at 8 am on 1/3
We have paid holidays from 12/24 to 1/3 this year. We have holidays from Xmas to New Year’s every year. One of the best perks of the job. Of course we only have five other holidays throughout the rest of the year: Memorial, Independence and Labor Days, plus two for Thanksgiving. Good deal though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That is cool. Good for you man!
We get New Years, Memorial, Independence, Labor, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.
I get 18 vacation days per year. And those holidays.
You got me crushed!
18 is pretty good
I’m old and have more experience. I accrue a lot of vacation too, somewhere between 20 and 25 days now, I think.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m old and have more experience
Twenty fucking seven years with company gets you something!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That is a serious consideration for me!
Five years from tomorrow I will be eligible for retirement. Can’t afford to, but eligibility is important.
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My one and only is, but not out of the wallet (college senior).
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
okay
I thought you had more….but you used to/ or still host exchange students?
Maybe that is where I’m confused. I thought you had a few kids.
College SR not bad. The work is almost done!
Two years ago, a woman who gives us some advice about how to invest our money told me, “If you don’t have another kid, never move again, and send Spawn to public school, you can retire at age 51.”
Since then, I’ve had another kid, which is probably going to necessitate a bigger house, and we have to figure out school… and I can’t stop thinking about the fifteen years I’m going to have to work to make that decision pay off.
Now with 33% more Kavula
You work for the wrong company in this business. Anytime you want to transfer your skills over here, lemme know.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
In reality, there isn’t that much difference between the big boys in this industry, but your company is a little different. You must really bring down the average age around there, judging by the folks I deal with from there.
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I think the youngest person I interact with on a regular basis is 12 years older than me. There’s reasons why we were named one of the best companies for seniors.
A lot of folks in this biz retire and then go work there.
My office mate is 27. He was born one week after I started here.
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Ha Ha
that must be a great topic of fun for the both of you. I’m glad I still get along great with my younger co – workers, I can still remember how full of myself I was at 27 so it is my job to puncture them whenever I can.
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It's useful both ways
I give him the whippersnapper treatment, he gives me the old goat one.
The few under 30s we got around here are mostly ok, but, yeah, I do find myself in “old war story” and curmudgeon mode quite a bit.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
There are several people in my department that have been here longer than I’ve been alive. They’re mostly in curmudgeon mode.
When I was 30 I was a curmedgeon
now I’m their friendly Uncle.
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I’ve been in curmudgeon mode since I was 25. I turned 25, went to work that day, and suddenly realized I had 40 more years of that shit coming to me. Since then, I have been unpleasant.
Now with 33% more Kavula
quite some time ago
someone here called me “the world’s youngest curmudgeon”. You have me beaten.
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our curmudgeon job is done then
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It does get better when you get to the point of having “fuck you” credibility. They purged enough people around here way back when that they need my experience here, so I can’t simply just be pushed around. This allows me to circumvent a certain amount of management stupidity.
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In her new job? Way to stick it to the newcomer!
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My wife starts here vacation on Dec 20th
and does not go back for quite a while. Teachers rule, no wonder Tripon and Snobby are trying to break in.
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I’m probably getting season tickets again next year. I stopped 2 years ago bc of my daughter being here and I am the Commandant on the Weekends.
But we are probably gonna buy 4 season tickets next year and get back in the swing of it.
I think I’d rather live in SC than in ARK.
But my wife would never go for that.
She has to see her Mom and Sister all the freakin time.
Don’t Arkies migrate in hordes anyway?
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no
ports o’ call is embarrassing. an eyesore. was a top destination 20-30 years ago but poor management killed it.
I believe I have figured out where Silverwidow works
but then that is what I used to do for a living.
By that much
/Max Smart
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
So I have read everything on this Cam Newton thing
And I’ve come to the conclusion that the NCAA fields a staff that trolls. An NCAA spokeswoman publicly said that the act of soliciting money is a violation. Now the new rule is it is only a violation if the athlete knows. Also, now the parents are able to solicit cash payments for their sons, because it is within NCAA rules.
See the tweet I posted above.
NCAA had no problem punishing Damon Stoudamire even though he didn’t know.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Not only that
But, if I’m reading this clear, IT’S OK for boosters to send cash to parents to get their son to play football for their school.
The NCAA everyone!
Hmmm. I hope you’re reading it wrong. I doubt you are, but I hope you are.
That is crazy. I have a huge problem with the NCAA telling me CN had no clue his Dad was trying to get paid.
Totally
I found myself rooting the Hogs for the first time every just because of Keith. My family was watching the game and asked why I was rooting for the hogs, I said because Keith is a hog, and that is all it took for us to find a common interest in a game we cared nothing about.
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It would be hilarious if my girlfriend knew who Keith was. It would rank very highly in my “WTF” moments list.
That part of the family knows who Keith is
they read the blog. So when I said he was a pompous ass from Ar Kansas they knew it was the truth but they also knew that since he’s TBLA family we had to root for him.
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I was the same way. I was screaming when they scored right before the end of the 1st half. My wife and son were wondering what game I was watching.
I was happy for Keith (the hog) but also for LSU to lose. They are the most pompous of all the SEC teams.
Truth be told I only cared about LSU losing
fuck the hogs.
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You mean my folks could have made a fortune off of my tremendous athletic skills?
Actually, this should be good for USC’s efforts to lessen the sanctions. It was Bush’s parents living rent-free, so they can say since it’s now legal and we went above and beyond by firing our AD, you can stop the sanctions after this year. I like it.
Didn’t Reggie take a car?
/not an expert on the Bush thing
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if you know this
But the NCAA has told USC they can’t even use the McNair situation for their appeal when clearly, that was the most important factor because USC “should know or should’ve known”.
Fuck the NCAA in the heart man, this is such a bummer..
Yeah, it’s pretty shitty.
But at least they’re doing everything humanly possible to stay above board.
But i think they should expel that Egan kid…who the fuck needs an agent as a student on campus. And how in the hell did he get certified anyway?
That's on the NFLPA
By the way, if you don’t know, the NFLPA are idiots too.
I don’t understand why Baxter was deemed inelibigle for their game against Arizona. Baxter said he didn’t know. Oh, but Cam is A-OK because he didn’t know his Dad was getting $100,000+ for his son to play football.
Stupid, stupid, stupid
Yep, i know that.
The Baxter thing is just Haden trying to go overboard to stay clean. It’s hell, but it will definitely help our chances when we appeal next month.
Kelly
I don’t know if you have read this yet, but here some fighting words from Haden. I just read this:
Also
its pretty hard to win an appeal when the same people who issued the original findings are the ones who set the rules and decide the appeal.
But to be clear, even when you appeal a lawsuit, you are not allowed to use evidence that was not introduced and admitted at trial. So anything that the NCAA did post their earlier finding against USC would not be relevant.
The McNair thing is unfortunate and not fair but I thought the jig was up once I learned who heard the appeal
Don’t suspensions get reduced in baseball all the time after appeal?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
same people who issued the original findings are the ones who set the rules and decide the appeal.
Wrong. The appeal committee are not the same people.
The McNair thing is unfortunate and not fair but I thought the jig was up once I learned who heard the appeal
Huh? Who?
Boooohahahah!
Hello my fellow fans! HOpe you all didn’t miss me! Any Yankme fans in here today to bash? lol. I see a few of you took to my nickname for the Bronx Bombers?
Really though......
You all didin’t bother me yesterday and i am glad I found this place. Welcome to me. So….any news on Russell Martin?
thank you Keith!
tip of the ol Dodger cap to you!
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I hope
the ones on the left and right exchanged those pieces right there between snapshots.
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If only Blake's sister was in that photo:)
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wow....
where was this at? I liked the drunk Mex girl in the middle. Right up my alley! lol
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I like the one of the right, much easier to objectify her with her head cropped off.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That reminds me of comedian Greg Fitzsimmons
who often in the middle of his sets will attempt to guess the exact ethnicity of Asians in the audience. He similarly claims to be an authority on the subject.
Reminds me of a Buddy Hackett joke/routine/one-liner I heard
Buddy goes up to a woman in the audience. “Are you Jewish?” he asks.
The woman replies that yes, she is Jewish.
“I knew it,” Hackett says. “I’d recognize Jewish tits anywhere.”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of a classic joke
Reminds me of the guy at the supermarket, who sees a woman put all her items on the conveyor belt, then smiles and says to her, “you must be single.” The woman is amazed and says, “You can tell I am single just by the groceries I am buying?”
The man replies, “No, it’s because you’re ugly.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Not fair
I’m laughing and can’t stop
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she's Latrina if not Mex....
but who really cares?!?!?!
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
hahah Latina!
not Latrina, that sounds like a a hoodrat walking around Crenshaw Bl.
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Ned: So, Russ, how is the rehab going?
Martin: Great boss. Doin’ hundreds of hip thrusts daily.
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by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No one ever said rehad had to be unpleasant
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I would expect it tomorrow. The will use all the time they can to figure out what to do and/or negotiate.
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I figured that.....
seems like every available Free Agent catcher out there is being targeted by the Dodgers. I don’t know what to believe, lol.
by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
We didn't bribe enough judges
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
World Cup in the Arabian Peninsula. Interesting.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but it’s not like they have exit polls for this kind of thing, I’m just wondering where the source for this is
hearsay
i will just say this. I would be shocked, shocked if USA made it past the second round tomorrow.
Your such a reporter
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Me to, more of this

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think we all need to send Ned a thank you note
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this fits in perfectly
with the soccer discussion, no wonder I like this site.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Does anyone else not find her attractive? I mean I don’t at all
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
well duh you don't
you’re a robot…….made of nails :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Butter face:
Damned smoking body. Kinna like Camron Diaz (sp?)
Your hate will make you powerful.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Michael deleted my photo
with a great line because of no subject.
David does it all the time.
I protest
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I try to delete them as soon as they come in. If there’s already comments under it, I just ignore it because I don’t want to lose the conversation.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
I went to Colombia vs. USA at the Rose Bowl in 94
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I took my niece to see the
Womans Cup victory at the Rose Bowl. That was all kinds of awesoke, I figure if I’m going to watch soccer I might as well go to the big game.
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I’m gonna go with Spain/Portugal and USA, Spain has goodwill going from their WC win and FIFA out of the choices would rather gain more leverage over USMNT than any of the other countries
I think we will be going in five months time
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looks like Matt Diaz is available
Supposedly crushes lefties.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions
If Furcal screws up his back again, does Uribe play SS everyday? Or does Jamey Gamer fill-in as usual?
I'd bet on Uribe playing SS
but with Torre it would have been Carroll since he didn’t like moving his starters around.
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So Carroll plays 2nd?
Otherwise, we’ll need to call-up Hu, or DeJesus, or figure out where Juan Castro is hiding.
wasn't the whole thing last year
that he was gonna be the 2B if Dewitt failed?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
My Dad is pumped that the Hogs are recruiting LB from Phoenix College. He played FB there.
I think it’s funny how excited he is….
so
if AR gets an LB from PC where he played FB hell be PDE?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
he’ll
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Russ Mitchell
Each of the past two years, Mitchell has seen action at 1b/2b/3b/lf/rf. If he can make some consistent hard contact, he could be a real useful guy to carry on the bench. (Just doing my due diligence on the 2011 roster.)
Crap
I just read up on the game “Killer Bunnies” and now I have to get it
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions
I must have this game. I love new card/board games, and it gets amazing reviews. This will be a perfect game to play while camping out on Colorado for the Rose Parade and drinking margaritas from a sippy cup
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
A game based on Monty Python?!?!?!? what’ll they think of next!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I believe UCLA is one of a handful of programs in the country that has NEVER played a D 1-AA or lower team.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Boise St.'s schedule
ranks 62 in the Sagarin rankings. For comparison, Oregon is 19, Arkansas is 17, Oklahoma is 12, TCU is 76
This started from discussing non-conference games and how teams like Arkansas just rely on conference opponents and play teams like Kennesaw State. The fact that Auburn’s SOS is good is by chance. The reason Wisconsin’s schedule is bad is also by chance.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
and there is 0% chance of the WAC schedule ever being respectable. TCU took the hint, it’s time for Boise St. to take their talents to somewhere else
I literally don’t know where TCU and Boise State came from in this conversation and what they have to do with UCLA or Arkansas.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
well we veered far off course once delia’s got involved. In answer to silverwidow’s question:
UCLA has played CSULB and CSU Fullerton
USC has played Cal Poly
neither of them has played CSULA
Pardon my ignorance
but were any outside of your conference? Because Michael White tells me your conference is the most overrated conference in the history of conference ranking so if that is all you have to hang you hat on, then maybe you need a new coat rack.
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For that answer
I give the photo you want above.
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who do you want to play in the bowls?
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someone good.
Looking like Ohio State right now. That would be cool with me.
That would be apretty good game, IMO.
I’m sure the majority of people on here think we’d get crushed because we are overrated.
But it would be a great game.
I'd have to support the pac 10
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No, I don’t believe they could pick Stanford.
Unless another bowl went crazy and selected UCONN.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
so help me on this
If Oregon is going to the title game
Can the Rose Bowl pick anyone they want or does it have to be Stanford / Wisconsin?
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The Rose Bowl must pick a non-AQ school and that will be TCU.
The other berth is the Big-10 champ (Wisconsin).
Big 10 and Pac 10 champ always go to Rose Bowl unless 1 is in the national title game.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
BTW
Stewart Mandel addressed the reasoning for this bizarre rule where the Rose Bowl has to take TCU in his mailbag today.
The sole reason the rule was put in place this year requiring the Rose Bowl to take a non-AQ replacement team was due to grumbling from the other bowls that they were constantly getting stuck with the non-AQs (the Fiesta has hosted four, the Sugar two) but that the Rose never did because it has two conference partners. So no, I don’t think one of the other bowls that lobbied for the rule to begin with would suddenly let the Rose off the hook the first time the scenario came up. Not to mention that in 12 years, the BCS has yet to let a pair of games swap teams.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Well, the bowls don’t like them because it takes money out of their pocket.
Your motive is to be a hater.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
ha ha
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One thing
if Oregon and Stanford go to BCS bowls, the Pac-10 conference, the Pac-10 will get somewhere close to $25M which should help make up for the fact that they at most will send two other schools to bowl games this year (after sending 6 or 7 in 2009).
Choosing the Pac 10 runner up instead of the Big Ten champ? I don’t see any reason for that.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t get behind this one. Wisconsin won* the Big Ten. They deserve to go to the Rose Bowl.
*won is used loosely these days
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather see a
MSU / Wisconsin rematch but that would not help the Big 10, as Wisconsin kicking TCU butt won’t help either.
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Two teams from the same conference sounds terrible. I always hate it when a bowl is a rematch.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Big Ten Network. Great HD.
I like all the conferences…..except 1.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
People that I know who know people
on the Rose Bowl/Parade Committee have told me that they love the tradition and also, especially if its a school that hasn’t been here in a while like Wisconsin, they storm the area.
I don’t think they are as happy about the BCS title game since that is on a Thursday, it completely shuts down the city on a work day and it is just a big hassle.
I am fairly sure, they would love just to have the old Rose Bowl and leave it at that.
I’m sure they would.
As a fan, part of me would rather that too.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
If Oregon goes to the title:
1) They are guaranteed Wisconsin
2) Because TCU finished in the top 4, they HAVE to pick them.
The Rose Bowl game is essentially set unless Oregon State pulls off the miracle
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yuck
TCU is the last team I’d want to see in the Rose Bowl. Badgers can’t be happy their opponent are the horned frogs.
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This is an argument against a playoff
whereas you cannot expect fans to travel 2 or 3 times to a site far away to watch a playoff game.
Now if you had played at someone’s home field, well that could help.
NFL playoff games are essentially a home game for whatever team, and that’s against the bowl game spirit
Right, that’s why I always argued against those who said you could incorporate the bowls in a playoff system.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
An 8 team playoff would have to start with the top 4 teams hosting a game.
Then go to the BCS Bowls and NC game.
I guess.
I still think that’s two much travel. 2 neutral site games in 2 weeks?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
No
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When meercat takes the holidays off
he takes them off. Joking with you but this was discussed a lot over the weekend
Under the BCS rules for 2011-2014 (or so)
The Rose Bowl is contracted to take a Non-Automatic qualifying team (like TCU) if they lose one of their contracted teams (Pac 10, Big 10) to the BCS Title game. So unless TCU goes to the Title game, they will play in the Rose Bowl, more than likely against Wisconsin.
This year the Sugar Bowl as first choice of the teams not contracted to other BCS bowl games or the Title game and they also get a choice before that to replace Auburn, if Auburn wins the SEC and goes to the Title game.
So the Sugar Bowl would more than likely take Arkansas to replace Auburn, most think they will take Ohio State as the opponent. The Orange Bowl is next, they will have the winner of the ACC Conference and could choose the Big East Conference champion or Stanford (who is currently in 4th place, thus an automatic at-large team) The Fiesta Bowl has the last pick, so the Big 12 champion will play whoever doesn’t go to the Orange Bowl.
True
I did not read any comments over the three day weekend, as I expect many other TBLA readers. Thanks for the info
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I am now very unhappy we will be hosting
TCU, may not bother going to the game.
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I've been a few times
but my Uncle is Badger Alumni and my family history is all Wisconsin so I was thinking of going this year hoping it was Stanford as the opponent.
Rose Bowl games are great fun, my 1st was 1975 when my favorite Bruin Wendall Tyler beat Ohio State. My last was when UCLA got beat by Wisconsin.
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You could get lucky and have Wisconsin vs. Oregon.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
he's rooting for Auburn to lose next week
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Oh, right.
There’s already chatter that Auburn would still go even if they lose.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I would like that to happen
just because the BCS would be TCU / Auburn and how awful would that be?
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It was cool that
Tyler was my favorite Bruin and then was drafted by the Rams. When he wasn’t fumbling he was exciting to watch.
I take it his son is at USC instead of UCLA? That is awful news.
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I've been three times
USC vs Ohio State ’85
UCLA vs Wisconsin ’94 & ’99
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
I had a friend.....
Stop me if you’ve heard this one….
I had a friend who’s father was the head baseball coach at UCLA from 1939-1975 and he got premium seats for life. He sold us seats from 1991 -1999 that were the best I’ve ever had at a football game. You walk out of tunnel 4, turn right and sit down. Right on the 50. in the esteemed Alumni section.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Nice
I’m going to assume those tickets went with him when he passed away?
http://www.cocoaexpo.com/baseball/tournaments/ldc/Art%20Reichle.htm
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No. His son still has them in perpetuity
(That’s a long time!)
He was an alumnus, and still gets them and sells them to friends. The same people, except for me, have been going since the early ’90’s.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
I’ve gone 3 times.
Washington State vs. Oklahoma
USC vs. Michigan
Michigan vs. Texas
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Looks strange just seeing
Michigan vs Texas
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I am tempted to go to the Pasadena lottery so I could sell the tickets.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
Looks like USC has never played a FCS team either. Neither has Notre Dame.
Can anybody confirm?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Not at all.
I respect the Pac 10. I personally think they are the 2nd or 3rd best conference in the country. They have good teams and great historical programs.
That doesn't change the fact UCLA is playing like a FCS team
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I expect there will be a game on Saturday. Lane is 0-1 against Neuheisel, yes things are surely different now, but USC hasn’t convinced me that their offense is all that better than UCLA’s…
I’m just saying that I would not come n here and bash a team that plays in a AQ conference and plays quality talent. That’s all.
Some come on here and crush conferences because they don’t like em….And it makes no sense.
I’m not.
Not getting to me. But your hatred of a conference because of what others say is odd to me.
You seem way too smart to be affected by what others say. Just not in this case.
I wish you would change how you thought about it, but you’re a grown up. You’ll do what you
want. That’s cool with me.
I wouldn’t sit around and wait for me to get into it with MW.
I respect him way too much for that. The previous post came off the wrong way.
I don't think you should back down
considering how much he disses your conference. It is like he’s calling your manhood into question.
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For the record, the reason I hate is not because of the praise in and of itself. It’s just that in college football unlike other sports, the blind praise actually matters. People could write articles all day long that the NL West is weaker than the NL East, but it wouldn’t matter. The Dodgers won’t get passed up for a playoffs spot because writers think the NL West is weak.
For years I couldn’t have cared less about the SEC. I didn’t hate them, didn’t love them, I literally had no opinion. Things changed after Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, USC and Cal got boned because the “old elite” programs needed to get their way. And even then, it wasn’t like the SEC was the culprit (mostly.) Not until Auburn (gasp) got passed up to play in the NC game for USC did things get crazy. The SEC went on a PR offensive which I found objectionable.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
If only they could play each other
to settle these things.
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Yes. That’s literally men vs. boys.
I remember going back to my high school as a sophomore in college and thinking how small the football players looked.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Would a team of 24 and 25 year old misfits beat the crap out of a bunch of coddled 18 & 19 year olds?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
It's like saying
could Duke’s NC team beat the Clippers. It’s sounds good in theory but it is still men against boys.
Of course
there was a time (not so long ago) when a college all-star team used to play the NFL champion (the last game was in 1976)
I remember the stars on the helmets
what a stupid game.
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how many times did the college team win?
(at least once)
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Not stupid because they played
just stupid that these kids were the future of their franchises and they were playing a game in which they could easily get career ending injuries in a meaningless game.
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yes, saw that happen
career ended in an exhibition game
boom, no more football for you
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I feel that way about the Pro Bowl. Football is too violent to have exhibition games.
Name a pro bowl team. have a skills competition in hawaii and call it a day.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
The skill should be
shots and wahine bench presses.
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You been working to hard
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Had an end-of-the-year event in Manhattan Beach the last 3 days. I’ll be sure to step up my TBLA contributions.
Anything happen since last week?
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We signed the biggest 2nd base free agent in years
We signed a pitcher
We got new members
Maddz got a new MacBook and is now to good for us
Josie keeps getting writing gigs
Keith hates Michael
Not to much
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Aww too bad
I was really excited for Maddz’s new macbook
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I don’t a shit what Michael says!
He’s taking me to play golf when I come out there.
We will discuss this shit in person…..And I may kill him….
:)
Totally agree
it is the one sport where every time you step on the field could have consequences.
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Maggette, Park, Brand, McGinnis
against Duke would have been fun.
4 on 5
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I will try them with a Chocolate Frosty
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Are their frostys that good?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
If you freeze them it is just like eating a chocolate malt at the Ravine
I love them, but many will not.
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“What were you using before?”
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ha ha
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Real = crap
McDonald’s fries are fake as shit, and I would euthanize a cat just for one fry right now.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Come on, don’t tell me you weren’t a Seinfeld fan.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Please stop
Nobody likes you.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
spam, troll, inappropriate
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I was actually kinda disappointed by Zaytinya. The hummus and lamb were out of this world, but we had some meh eggplant and a chicken orzo thing that tasted like something I could have made.
oh man
yeah the lamb blew me away but just the whole meal made me so happy. those fresh pitas… we had some sundried tomato and cheese dish. and ended the night with some olive oil ice cream.
i went to some other places in DC too and loved them all: Spike’s Good Stuff Eatery, and Brian V’s Volt (ohhhh man that was out of this world)
The pitas were sooooo good. Oh yeah, had some apricot and greek yogurt that was great too.
Wanted to go to Volt but we only had a day in DC so couldn’t drive out to Frederickson. Making that a priority next time I go out east.
we got lucky
we went to DC because my wife was shooting a wedding out there and the wedding just happened to be like 15 min away from Volt so we went for lunch.
yep!
the all-stars edition! check out the power rankings over at http://www.skilletdoux.com/
fuct (fun+fact=fuct): the dude who runs skillet doux is the voice of guybrush from monkey island.
Thanks
I missed recording a season as I switched DVRs, and haven’t set it to record new episodes…UNTIL NOW!
you didnt miss much
it didnt really get any good till the end. it left me wanting, and so i watched Just Deserts, which sucked except for the whole LA thing. Cool seeing them at the same Albertsons i shop at ahha
Conspiracy Theory #1
Frank McCourt, seeing his chances of winning the divorce case slip away, approves large contracts to make the sale of the team harder on Jamie. the Dodgers sign Jayson Werth to a 96/6 deal to stick it to the former Mrs. McCourt.
Conspiracy Theory #2: There is no Conspiracy Theory #1.
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Did you enjoy the spiteful move where Jamie banged the help which ended up resulting in the two getting divorced and fighting over your favorite team in court?
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
That is a spiteful comment
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3115 Members on Dec 1st
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115 members
3000 meercats.
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Yet we average about 1 comment per member account per day
I see it as a great thing that everyone doesn’t post. If they did, my computer would fucking explode.
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I agree
if we had any more regular posters we’d have to start furloughing some of the regulars who don’t add anything to conversations. Meaning I should start getting some work done.
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she's biding her time
waiting for her perfect moment to strike.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
If each member sent Eric $10
for the work he does here as a Xmas Bonus he could finally get those singing lessons he so badly wants.
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My email address doesn’t begin with SECpoon :_
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
every time someone posts a slutty photo of a lady
TBLA gains a member
oooh, unintentional double meaning! nice!
We post tastefull shots
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I’m glad to be a “regular”, which I believe is less than 3% of that number.
WHERE YOU AT 3,115! WE WANT YOU LOUD AND PROUD!
1%, you are totally elite
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1%
still only puts you in the top 31.
It’s like saying Ryan Theriot is in the top 750 active MLB players.
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NPUT
only because we are about to hit 1,000 comments
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