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Dodgers 200 Minor League Countdown: 190 - 181

Here is the next part of my Dodger prospect countdown.  This isn't the most exciting group, although there are a few names that minor league junkies should recognize.  As a reminder, my ranking includes players in Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications:  (1) played in the Dodgers minor league system during 2010, or were injured during the entire 2010 season; (2) is still within the Dodgers organization as of season end; (3) will be under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2011; and (4) the player is still considered a prospect by Baseball America Standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors, regardless of service time.  Also, remember that the players age I’ve listed is their age as of the start of the 2011 season. 

190.  Ronny Lugo, RF (46 games in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2009

6’2”, 170 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed

.231 average, .654 OPS, 2 HR’s, 18 RBI’s, 6 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 157;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Ronny Lugo was signed out of Venezuela prior to the 2009 season, but ever since his debut he has posted pretty dismal stats.  In fact, the only damage that Lugo did in 2010 came against left handed pitchers, as righties limited him to a .203 average.  The one good thing about Ronny is that he is versatile as an outfielder, but that will only get you so far.  Overall because his offensive numbers this year did not show any improvement from 2009, and because he is almost 21 years old, I’m guessing that Lugo’s baseball career is probably done. 

 

189.  Johan Garcia, 3B (78 games in HiA, 16 games in LoA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 4/19/05

6’0”, 170 lbs, 24.5 years old, bats right handed

.243 average, .610 OPS, 3 HR’s 33 RBI’s, 9 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 186;     Pre 2009 Rank: 155

 

Johan Garcia has been in the Dodgers organization for quite some time now, but he has never really done much of anything.  His career batting average is below .240, he only six total homers his six seasons, and he doesn’t really have a whole lot of speed.  In fact, he has had such a dismal career that his 2010 season was actually one of his best years yet.  His .243 average was the 2nd highest of his career, and his 33 RBI’s almost doubled his previous season high.  I guess the one thing that Garcia has going for him is that he is a versatile infielder, as he can play 3B, 2B, and SS.  At 24 years old, Johan doesn’t seem to have much of a future in baseball, but the Dodgers might just keep him around as a utility player for another season.

See #'s 188 - 181 after the jump

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188.  Victor Araujo, RHP (14.2 IP in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2010

5’11”, 171 lbs, 21.25 years old

2-0, 2.45 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 2.25 FIP, 11.66 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: N/A;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A  

 

Victor Araujo had outstanding stats in 2010, but he still has many flaws as a potential prospect.  First, 2010 was his first taste of professional baseball even though he was already 20 years old during the season.  Second, Araujo is very small for a pitcher as he stands at just 5’11”.  Third, Victor only threw 14.2 innings in 2010 so while his stats were good, the sample size is much too small to pass any judgment on him as a player.  Overall, the negatives outweigh the positives for Araujo, so unless he has another great season in 2011 while throwing a lot more innings, this will probably be the last time you read about him.

 

187.  Steve Cilladi, C (11 games in Arizona League in 2010)

Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 33rd round

5’9”, 182 lbs, 24 years old, bats right handed

.292 average, .796 OPS, 1 HR’s, 3 RBI’s, 0 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 193;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Despite being 23 years old, Cilladi only participated in 11 games in the Arizona Rookie League in 2010.  In fact, even though he was drafted in 2009, Cilladi has only played in 26 professional games.  To provide a little background on Cilladi, his dad was a former athletic trainer for the Rockies and Cubs, so I’m sure he knows something about conditioning.  He played college ball in the NAIA with the Kansas Wesleyan Coyotes, and during his four seasons there Steve hit .267 with 76 hits, so he wasn’t exactly a masher in college.  In addition, he wasn’t even the full time starting catcher during his Senior year.  Since he’s a catcher, Cilladi proves some value to the Dodgers since he can help out in spring training, but besides that I’m not sure how much use the Dodgers have for a 24 year old without much experience.

 

186.  Jorky Infante, 3B (57 games in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2009

6’0”, 155 lbs, 20 years old, switch hitter

.270 average, .697 OPS, 2 HR’s, 14 RBI’s, 13 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 167;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Born in the Dominican Republic, Jorky Infante has a great name.  He made his professional debut in 2009, but had terrible stats in limited appearances as an 18 year old.  In 2010, Infante was the DSL Dodgers everyday 3rd baseman, and made 13 errors at the hot corner in 49 games.  At the plate, however, Infante proved to be a pretty good all around player, hitting .270 with a couple of homers and stealing 13 bases.  A switch hitter, Infante also showed good plate disciple as he walked 28 times against just 27 strikeouts.  Jorky will be 20 years old when the 2011 season starts, and since his stats don’t warrant a move to a US based league, the Dodgers will have to decide if he is worth keeping around in the DSL for another year.

 

185.  Ariel Botello, RHP (32 IP in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2010

6’2”, 217 lbs, 21.25 years old

2-1, 3.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 4.39 FIP, 6.75 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: N/A;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

The 2010 Dominican Dodgers pitching staff was full pitchers who were too old for the DSL, and Ariel Botello is another perfect example. 2010 was Botello’s first season even though he played the entire season as a 20 year old, and the Dominican native put up decent stats.  He didn’t strike out a ton of batters, but his ERA was respectable and batters hit just .237 against him.  He has a decent pitcher’s frame at 6’2”, but I really don’t see anything too special about Ariel.  At the end of the day, he is really just a body used to fill the Dominican Dodgers roster.

 

184.  Miguel Sanfler, LHP (70 IP in HiA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 10/2/02

5’11”, 165 lbs, 26.5 years old

0-3, 5.40 ERA, 1.64 WHIP, 4.27 FIP, 6.17 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 162;     Pre 2009 Rank: 102

 

The highlight of Sanfler’s career was probably in 2005, when he was rated by Baseball America as the 19th best prospect in the Gulf Coast League.  In their write up, BA said that Miguel boasted a 95 mph fastball and a devastating curveball.  Five years later, Sanfler’s stuff seems to have faded.  He has spent the last 4 years in A-ball (two in LoA and 2 in HiA), and has not performed well in any of those seasons.  In fact, his 2010 stats were almost identical to his 2009 stats when he had a 5.48 ERA, a 1.64 WHIP, and a 6.13 K/9.  Similar to years past, Sanfler’s poor control and lack of a strikeout pitch were his biggest problems in 2010 as his strikeout to walk ratio was just 1.41 for the year.  The one positive for Sanfler is that he has been a workhorse through his career, and continued that trend in 2010 with 70 innings out of the bullpen.  Currently a minor league free agent, my guess would be that the 26 year old will not be back with the Dodgers in 2011.

 

183.  Josh Walter, RHP (95.2 IP in HiA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 6/27/08

6’4”, 250 lbs, 26 years old

1-10, 6.59 ERA, 1.83 WHIP, 5.45 FIP, 8.00 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 99;     Pre 2009 Rank: 189

 

After a good season in 2009, there was some buzz about Josh Walter as a potential prospect.  I didn’t buy into the hype, however, and now I think you can forget about him forever.  The 25 year old had an ERA of 6.59 and - get this - he posted a win/loss record of 1 - 10 for the 66ers in 2010.  He also allowed 13 homers in 95.2 innings, and ranked 2nd in the California league with his 64 walks.  Signed as a non drafted free agent during the 2008 season out of Texas State, 2010 might just have been the last season as a Dodger for the big guy.

 

182.  Andres Perez, OF (41 games in HiA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 8/9/09 out of independent ball

6’0”, 200 lbs, 26.75 years old, bats right handed

.285 average, .768 OPS, 2 HR’s, 20 RBI’s, 2 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 150;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

As I mentioned last year, Andres Perez played his college ball at Stony Brook University, and during 2006, his Senior season, he hit .327 and led the team with 7 HR’s.  Undrafted out of college, Perez signed with the Yankees as a non drafted free agent in September of 2006.  In 2007, his first professional season, he played at 4 different levels ranging from the Gulf Coast League to HiA.  After an uninspiring season, however, he was cut from the Yankees, so he signed with Tampa Bay before the 2008 season.  After a mediocre season in the Florida State League, he was again let go again.  Unable to find a team to sign with at the beginning of 2009, Perez kept his baseball hopes alive by playing ball with the Newark Bears.  After tearing up the independent league, he signed with the Dodgers midseason in 2009 and played in the California League where he put up very strong numbers in 26 games.  He returned to the 66ers in 2010, but was hurt for most of the season and was very unimpressive for a 26 year old.  A minor league free agent, I am pretty sure that Perez will not be in the Dodgers organization in 2011. 

 

181.  Luis Rosano, RHP (29.2 IP in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2009

6’2”, 190 lbs, 19.75 years old

1-4, 6.37 ERA, 1.99 WHIP, 6.40 FIP, 4.55 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 145;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

While Rosano wasn’t great in 2009, he was slightly intriguing because at the time he was just 18 year old and had a solid pitchers frame.  I think all expectations of him ever becoming a prospect are gone, however, as Rosano had a terrible season in 2010.  The young man from Venezuela had an ERA of 6.37, and walked as many batters as he struck out (15).  He also allowed 5 homers in his short season, and opposing battings hit .352 against him.  Luis will be 20 years old by the time the 2011 DSL season starts, so if the Dodgers do decide to bring him back he’ll be one of the older players in the league.

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Sanfler

is the name that jumps out. He coulda been somebody. I’m noticing a trend with these guys of being old for their league and not very good.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Semi - Cheap LF Help

Looking over the candidates who might be free agents after the non – tender deadline I see some solid right handed hitting outfielders who I think could help us either in a platoon with Paul or Gibbons.

Scott Hairston – always a fave of mine, will post a plus .800 OPS against LHP, can even play CF, would be a better right fielder then Andre. Injuries have plagued him most of his career.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=1926&position=OF&season=0

Connor Jackson – Another fave, another player where injuries have decimated his value, another player who will easily put up a plus .800 OPS against LHP. Strictly a LF, but could also help Loney against LHP at 1st base.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=5997&position=1B/OF&season=0

Wily Aybar – could also help at 3rd / 1st, switch hitter but better from the right side, nothing special but would give some pop off the infield bench, not a lot but some.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=2192&position=3B/DH&season=0

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

I like Jackson out of that group. Eric mentioned yesterday that ideally the LF would be RH and able to play 1B. Check and ccheck.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I can see Russ Mitchell getting a bench spot where he could potentially play 1B/3B/LF with some pop off the bench. In that regard, I don’t think a RH OFer is a necessity.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Much like others with Hu, I refuse to acknowledge Mitchell’s practical presence with this organization. I don’t see a career minor leaguer suddenly landing a key bench job with this team.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking at Ned's past

I’d expect they will keep Mitchell in AAA as depth, but go with a proven veteran for the bench role. If they use Mitchell as the bench guy, and someone gets hurt, we really have no one else to move up and help out. Carroll is Right handed, so Aybar gives you the look from both sides and can play the corners while Carroll takes care of the middle infield.

Mitchell can do what Aybar does and cheaper, but I don’t see Ned going that route.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve boosted Aybar for awhile, but I’d rather see him as the bench guy.

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I only see him as a bench guy

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Remind me to read thoroughly next time :-)

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Mitchell is the kind of guy they would keep IMO. He has no future as a regular, but can (in theory) play 1B, 3B, and the OF corners with some decent RH pop. It wouldn’t shock me at all to see Mitchell gain a bench spot.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Emphasis on the “in theory” part. I’d be shocked if he didn’t embarrass himself at one or more of those positions.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it all depends on who they sign for LF. If they sign an everyday starter, like Damon, I think they will be more free with that last bench spot.

I think Paul makes the bench, if only to give them a backup CF (not that they couldn’t sign one, of course).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Has Ned

ever had a rookie on the bench for an infield spot that was not due to an injury replacement?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Not that they thought had a future, nope.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Paul have a future?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

More of one than Mitchell.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

moreso than the coach he got fired

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

But really

how often do you read someone got fired because a player didn’t make progress. Granted it was the coach who made the comment after he was let go but as Reg alluded to, that has to make Paul wonder what the Dodgers think of him that they fired a coach because he still sucked at things they wanted him to be better at.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially when the alternative is

maybe Paul just sucks.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they think

he still has that Shane Victorino potential then. If they can a coach for not developing him properly, they must still think he is worth the investment, but who knows the real reasons why they fired that guy.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Well if anyone

can do that, then probably Mitchell because he does meet the needs to be able to play 1st against LHP, help at 3rd if Blake, gets hurt, can play the corners in the outfield, and in an emergency can even play 2nd while giving the team some pop off the bench.

I’d give him the spot, will be curious if Ned does.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

We gave Delwyn a shot didn’t we?

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Not at 2nd

that was the Pirates

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, missed the infielder part.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

For some reason, I like him and hope he gets a bench spot. He has some power but would probably be exposed as a fulltime player.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

He's been compared to Kevin Millar

and it took Millar until he was 27 to get any significant playing time because he had a skill set that was basically a corner who could play the outfield who could only hit LHP.

I will be surprised if Mitchell does not develop into a lefty hitting corner infielder or outfielder but he’ll never be a full time player.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, he is not suited to be a starter, but I would welcome him as a utility guy on our bench. I think he could be pretty valuable.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I just have a feeling

that Ned is going to address LF in a move that non of us suspect. I think Fukudome would be a decent get in a salary dump. He plays good defense and could move Ethier to LF and even though his production has dropped off after the season gets going, he still puts up decent a OBP .

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Basically, you’re expecting the unexpected?

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

But is it unexpected anymore if we expect the unexpected?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Touche. Not predicting Fukudome, but I could see something like that being done to address LF.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

so, by that reasoning........

 Listen carefully. The pellet with the poison’s in the vessel with the pestle, the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That picture is bad ass

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Danny Kaye - Huge Dodger fan

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn’t seem like one

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

because he's dead?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

singing and dancing guys don’t seem like big Sports guys, that’s all.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Live and learn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7qYcyUjDPU

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Song turns to shit pretty fast.

No one wanting to hear a Dodgers song wants to even hear about Orlando Cepeda

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

you have no stick to it ness

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife would high five you if she were here right now

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA Karaoke Night!!!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I would’ve spent the entire night beside Michael White having him explain X-FIP

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Good research. I think of this group Hairston probably is the best hitter, but Jackson is intriguing because he can play 1B. I think the Dodgers have to be at the point with Loney that they’re hoping, not expecting, that he becomes the player they thought he was. With that in mind, they should prepare to get someone else at bats against LHP.

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

100% behind getting Hairston.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

That's enough material

for the 1 P.M. mini-article and worth the front-page exposure.

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by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon what are the chances

of someone in the 200-100 prospect group breaking out and making an impact in MLB?

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

One in a trillion*

*Rough estimate

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

So you’re sayin’ there’s a chance!

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Where was Rubby on last years list?

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually had rubby at #35 last year

even through he barely played…I’ve always liked his velocity

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

0%

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you round down?

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

at least it's not negative

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Webster was #100 on his 2009 list, so more than zero.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That means you think Webster will make an impact. Nice!

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there’s a chance he could.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

A bug on a windshield makes an impact.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

But he was 21 on the TBLA list!

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I had Webster

at #11 last year…the #100 ranking was the year before that

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

How about Kenley Jansen?

before he became a pitcher. There’s always hope!

by ClipCat on Dec 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually had Jansen

at #16 last year when he was a pitcher, and believe it or not I had him #36 the year before that when he was still a catcher because I thought he might turn into something. Not saying I predicted he’d be a pitcher and have this success, but I always knew he threw hard and thought he’d be useful in the future somewhere on the field.

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

True - I missed the range of 100 - 200

I read that with out reading about this current group.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

in the 180 - 200 range..

I’d say basically 0%. Once we start getting into the 170 and below there is more of a chance.

If you go all the way down to #100, then there are definitly sleepers in that group who could have an impact. As I mentioned in my original post Allen Webster was #100 two years ago, and in looking at this year’s list up to #100, there a few college drafted pitchers who could breakout, as well as high school drafted players or international guys who could potentially just be late bloomers.

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd go back to zero again

unless of course Brandon is doing a terrible job with this list and is missing obvious talent:)

Where was the 20 year relief pitcher who kind of exploded up the charts in 2010 ranked in the past? I would think he might be a guy to blow the 0% out of the water.

So let me change that. Anyone from 150 – 200 who is not a relief pitcher should have a zero chance of having a major league career if Brandon is doing a good job of evaluating the system.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

Javier Solano

was #111 last year. Rafael Ynoa was #172, but he’s most likely the exception because he was really terrible prior to last year, so i think his #172 ranking was justified last year

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you may have missed on Ynoa

in that he might get a cup of coffee and maybe some tea.

Quite a jump for Solano – biggest jump in the ranking I’m going to guess?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

probably Solano for biggest jump

although Greg Wilborn is another candidate for the biggest jump since he was #124 last year. Wilborn had a 7.45 ERA and 2.12 WHIP in the Pioneer League in 2010 which is why he was ranked pretty low last year

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 1, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Greinke

NY Post

Greinke is one of the Rangers’ backup plans if Lee splits. The Royals like Rangers pitching prospects Martin Perez and Tanner Scheppers. But it likely will take more than that to get Greinke, who has 15 teams on a no-trade list that kicks in for 2011.

The Royals are out for blood.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

They have to be if they are giving up Grienke

and Scheppers sucked so bad when they tried to convert him to a starter he looks like only a relief pitcher. I’d want a lot more then Perez and Scheppers for Grienke.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

How do Perez and Tanner rate as prospects?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Before the season, they were top 5 in a very deep Rangers’ system.

Perez has been compared to Johan Santana and was young for AA last year. Scheppers can throw 99 mph.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Tanner dominated as a relief

pitcher, not so much when they tried him as starter mid season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=schepp001tan
was 42 headed into 2010 by BA

Perez has stuff but the results were not that impressive, crazy walk rate, gets hit
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=perez-011mar
Number 17 by BA going into 2010

but he was only 19 in AA so actually still a top tier prospect

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Bench platoon and LF

For those who want Connor Jackson, his back and time in Oakland this past year was not good. I just don’t see it happening. I am still hopping that the Dodgers take a look at Berkman. He provides so much flexibility and also still has some power.

by wineracquet on Dec 1, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

I’d take Berkman at 1B, if we happened to trade Loney. However, I don’t hink I want Berkman patrolling the OF for this team. Also, I don’t see the flexibility if Loney is still here since Berkman is basically a LHH these days.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if his struggles as a RHH

were because of the knee as well? feel free to correct.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Last I looked I thought it was a down trend

from before his injury but I could be mistaken. Like OB12 I do not think Berkman can play LF without getting hurt. Once bodies like his start breaking down I don’t think they stablelize.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

it'd definately

be a gamble.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

definitely*

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Fat Elvises never go back

to their lean, leather-bodysuit wearing selves. This is fact.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Splits show he has sucked against LHP

for the last two years and as a 1st baseman has been unimpressive since 2005 against lefties.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=548&position=1B/OF&season=0

He should totally be only a LHH going forward even at his best you are talking an .810 OPS and any good RHH should be able to do better then that. Hell Lindsey/Mitchell could probably do that if they only saw LHP.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Ellsbury

If the Red Sox are one of the likely destinations for Werth, I think the logjam would send Jacoby out of town…plus he and the Sox apparently don’t see eye to eye. He will cost less than Upton, both moneywise and return-wise in a trade. I still think that the ideal solution in the OF is to move Kemp to RF and Dre to LF for defensive purposes, and get a plus defender in CF while Tray develops.

The main impetus is to get a #2 hitter for the lineup (that’s not Podman) because as the roster is currently set, I don’t see a good option.

What would it take to buy low on Ellsbury? The Sox need relievers maybe?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

On the surface that sounds okay

but beneath the surface the Red Sox acquired Cameron to play CF because they found Ellsbury wanting as a center fielder. Even if they sign Werth they have two old outfielders in Cameron / Drew both with significant injury history as does Ellsburry. Not sure they would trade him this winter but even if they do, can he play CF or is he just another speedy Roger Cedeno who has no idea where the ball is going?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

If we do want a pure defense center fielder, Tony Gwynn Jr is getting non-tendered. He’s probably the best option if we can’t afford a real player, but man the Kemp/Uribe/Pierzynski/Gwynn/Pitcher part of the lineup would be a whole lot of out.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Pierzynski

Did I miss something or are you just torturing me?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

It sounds nicer than Barajas.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Only if you like the sound of blood in your ears.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, way too slip that a-hole in there!

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Get used to it

he’s coming

AJ is coming
hide the children

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

if Russ is resigned

would he platoon?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They wouldn’t do both.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

You cannot sign both a Golden God and a man born out of the ass of Satan. The entire clubhouse would be shrouded in fire and brimstone, like something out of Revelations.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

After deliberating I'm pretty sure the only reason I like AJ

is because everyone else hates on him but that is a poor reason. So no I do not want AJ on this team.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

As someone who is 1/4 Polish I can tell you with authority that

the name Pierznyski means “That Little Prick”

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

he's a big dude

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Just sayin'...

;-)

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you flee DT for the hyperbole?

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

It was more a technology issue. That issue has since been solved, but the change in my habits has been hard to break.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I don’t recall Jon ever (or rarely) have a problem with my hyperbole. The rule was against using hyperbole when something else will suffice, and I usually make sure that nothing, nothing, NOTHING else will suffice.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I like it. Agree on the technology angle. This software, or whatever it is, is cool.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Rapmaster kinbote

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Word to your most recent female progenitor.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

He was freed here

and broke all ten rules in ten days.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Ten rules? It’s rule 11 and unstated rule 13 that I violate most often.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

that's what I meant

thanks

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

do you realize

how many of the 2005 White Sox we’d have then?? Uribe, Garland, maybe Pods, hell Konerko is a FA…Cliff Politte anybody?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for Scary.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't Stop Believin'!!!!

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Not only have I stopped believing, I am now the Christopher Hitchens of the baseball blog-commenting world.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

you should change your avatar then

to Andre running into the eternal void

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

he still WANTS to believe

he just doesn’t :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

And the caption:

THERE IS NO NED

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Ned is Dead

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

pulp'd him

/Preston Mattingly

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

ONLY

ZUUL!!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

If you’re gonna go with “fuck it, everyone might have a career year” as your plan, you might as well get the masters.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

And that team wasn’t even that good. They got lucky to hold on as they crashed and burned down the stretch.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

2011 Dodger catcher:

AJ Pierzynski!!!

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

He only punches opposing players, not women!

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

and athletic trainers

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't punch them

just knees them in the groin (allegedly)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Melky Cabrera would be another option as a defensive OFer with limited offensive potential.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

He fat.

Cabrera is a decent corner outfielder, but he wouldn’t get Kemp out of center.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Nono, it’s phat. That’s what the kids say — phat, pee aych ay tee. Melky Cabrera is phat. Don’t you know he used to be a New York Yankee?!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

He was a Yankme? Shit. I don’t want him in my city!

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

have you met our new manager? :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

See Pancho already gave us Yankme

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

no

it was inside us all along, Pancho just let us see it. :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I miss Pancho already

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m beginning to think he was never really here — he was just a figment of our imaginations.

Were you real, Pancho?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t the ban lifted?

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

he left in the 7th inning

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

he's somewhere out there, believing in us

(starts singing Just One Person)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

And I do believe!

that’s why I came here in the first place.

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd thought he'd be here this morning

but maybe he reviewed the comments and realized that maybe we are just a bunch of dicks and not the great site he was led to believe.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, we’re dicks. But the site IS great.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

FTFY
Oh, we’re dicks. But That’s why the site IS great.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Your really becoming big time

now that Ivdown is not here during the day to hold you down

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the next Karaokee meet upu

has to be done at a place 22 and up

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

i miss you all too!

So you all liked the Yankme thing? Good…I know I do.

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think that the ideal solution in the OF is to move Kemp to RF and Dre to LF for defensive purposes, and get a plus defender in CF while Tray develops.

Ellsbury will not solve this problem. If you can snag him for a reliever sure, but he hasn’t been better than Scotty Pods offensively since 2008 and he can’t play defense.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe we can get Drew back now that Boston has paid most of salary:)
  1. 07:$14M, 08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M per Cots

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Man Time flies when you are having fun

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

my Dad despises him.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I love me some JD Drew.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

but just think

of his stolen base percentage combined with Davey Lopes’ magical abilities, he’ll never get thrown out! The anti-TOOTBLAN !!

Seriously, I did forget Cameron is there in Boston, so maybe LF is a better fit…I still prefer him over Pods and Damon cos of youth, and we ain’t getting Crawford.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I'd rather have

Damon then Berkman and totally Damon over Pods.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=185&position=OF#advanced

Damon would need no help from Lopes when he comes to stolen base %. 23 stolen bases over the last two years, been caught once.

Pretty consistent skill set. Not great but you know what you are going to get.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Damon and Ellsbury are both bad OFers

but Ells is cheaper and younger, though you do have to trade something for him. He also steals more bags.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

But with Damon, it’s only a 1 year deal anyway. These guys would just be placeholders in hopes that somebody like Sands can start. With that said, you really only need to worry about how they would do next year. I expect Damon is a better hitter.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

the thing with damon

is he’s left handed. I thought the quest was for a right handed OF?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Damon does not need to be platooned

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

dont tell that to ned

seems like once the man has a plan, he sticks to it

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Only if it’s someone like Pat Burrell or Marcus Thames who you would sit every now and then

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

Sands is going to be our Left Fielder by August anyway:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

So how much are people predicting Damon will cost for the one year?

Just wondering…

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

To much for his production

but that didn’t stop us from signing Uribe so why stop now.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, so you want production for the cash, Huh?

Why would Ned want to change his strategy now?
Schmidt
Jones
etc……….

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as the initial offer doesn’t get returned.

/mailer-daemon’d

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Daemon's

Have you read the Dark Materials
http://www.philip-pullman.com/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=50

I’d expect you would love them. As would Maddz for the whole Theology part. Nothing like going to war against God and traveling through hell. Much better then HP to bad they mangled the movie.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

i've heard of them, another series I haven't taken the plunge in

I remember the controversy when the movie came out. Both about the theme of the story, and how the movie bascially neutered it.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

You have to get through the first fifty

pages, then I think you get hooked once the traveling starts and the first bear is joined. The 2nd book was much better then the first but the fighting polar bears are kind of awesome in the first book and they did a great job of that in the movie.

Lot of cool concepts how each person has an animal attached to them that neither can live without if they get separated. Lot of cool concepts in that series including hell and heaven. The huge swipes at organized religon is what got neutered in the movie. I knew they could never make a movie where the goal of the protaganist is to do battle with God without changing everything.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

sounds a bit like LOTR

the slow start that is.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I found it odd

that the movies got successfully worse, while I found the final LOTR book to be my favorite.

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by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

is there any way

I can say I disagree and just leave it at that?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

you just did

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

well

nolander has to agree

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

the hobbit is the best book

felt the LOTR books were only ok.

the movies, i liked the first one, two towers was my favorite, and saw ROTK once and thats enough for me. those movies be long.

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

read the Hobbit as a kid

never read the LOTR books, I liked the first film much better than the last 2, and the last one might be one of the worst Best Picture winners. Well, that’s saying a lot, but it was overrated.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a cumulative award

for sure

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

sure? I guess, maybe.

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by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah they were neutered in the film and yet

there were still throngs of protests from religious groups against the film (presumably most of them hadn’t even seen the movie, as usual). Movie had some good sequences and cool look and wasn’t as good. Don’t think Chris Weitz was good choice for director.

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone was just telling me I need to read these books, was it’s Maddz? No I think it was my cousin Amber. Anyhow, yeah I’m gonna get on that ASAP, cause I did see the potential for the story in the movie

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s a very classic story in that sense, btw, taking on the Gods and traveling to the underworld is straight out of EPIC 101

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Not Gods, thee God

this is not a mythology story.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

but it’s following the Epic path which is the point I was making and you skirted around with your monotheism

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't use big words with me girl

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I think she called you a skirt. Are you gonna let that slide?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

sorry, forgot that I was talking to a dilettante

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I can figure the meaning based on the sentence but now I’m going to have to look this one up and I’m sure I’m not going to like what I’m going to read.

I give you around 10 hours of joy in your life and you call me names.

Humma help me here, I need a comeback, call Jose something for me besides big haired unemployed ex quidditch home living writer that nobody reads person.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

big haired unemployed ex quidditch home living writer that nobody reads person

….hipster?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t that describe most of the great writers who have ever lived (not the hipster part)?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Add drunk, and maybe.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

sure, they are all ex-quidditch players

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Proust had game

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

He also had cookies and a lot of memories.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder

if all his cookies subjected him to targeted ads based on his browsing preferences

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not a 'Cash Rich' profession

(But it beats working at Taco Bell)

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by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

: a person having a superficial interest in an art or a branch of knowledge : dabbler

Yes, Yes I am superficial in all knowledge but one.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

and when I need advice on which brand of Bran Flakes to buy I’ll give you a call

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

You hurt me because you care

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I told my therapist the same thing about you

/touched

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

But she's a Cal grad

On MLB Network last Friday, Bob Uecker recalled a time when he and Howard Cosell were kidding around on a Monday Night Baseball broadcast and Cosell responded: to Bob, “Ueck, you don’t have to get so truculent. You do know what truculent means.” Uecker, without missing a beat, said: "Of course, Howard. If you had a truck and I borrowed it, it would be a truck you lent."

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Love Ueck

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

i missed that show :(

but at least I know they’ll show it again.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

haha

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

What happened to his power? Comerica ate it up?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He stopped playing at Yankee Stadium

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Or being 36?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Getting older, had a fluky power year the year before.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

So, how do USC fans feel about Newton being ruled eligible?

In light of Reggie Bush causing USC 2 years of bowl eligibility

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

The story to me

is that Newton was actually ineligible, for a day, yesterday, and nobody knew about it until today.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

and it could only be one year of bowl ineligibility! :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I am ambivalent BTW

If anything happens to Auburn, it will be down the road. The memories (of their loss to Oregon) will still remain.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Getting ahead of ourselves. :)

If that happens, it’s a first time ever meeting.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Bite your tongue. The Civil War, especially away, is never easy.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, but Oregon State has some major injuries, no?

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

At least 1. But that’s been true most of the season.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Oregon has made a habit of starting slowly. That has to end.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

They also have a habit of completely dominating the 2nd half

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That has to remain!

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

so they are saying that he did not know and this was all on his dad? and that is OK somehow?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s the takeaway I’m getting. NCAA places blame on dear old dad and neither the son nor Auburn knew about it.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

so the ncaa could not come up with and $$ trail? i mean, he did not go to auburn for no money.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, the broad strokes is that the investigation is still ungoing, just that Newton will play the rest of the year. So like with USC, the most likely to be punished are future players who never met Newton as opposed to the offender himself.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I've never liked that part

how the current USC group has to suffer for the sins of the guy making gazillions in the pro’s. Can’t we just kill somebody and move on?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

sucks for the kids

but the school was still found guilty no matter what.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

never a fan of the innocent paying for the price for the guilty.

Again I ask can’t we just kill someone? The booster perhaps, the AD, the coach, the athletes dad? Someone in Somalia?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I do think there is some merit for punishing the school even after the violators are gone

For one, it happens all the time in other areas of business, if an employee breaks the law or regulation, many people outside the person who broke that law may suffer the consequences (a large recent example would be Enron). I am not saying someone breaking NCAA violations is the same as fraud but the general idea is the same.

And even USC fans will have to admit that Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush are among the top reasons for USC re-emerging as a College powerhouse, I mean for those 3 years that Bush and Leinart played together, they were probably two of the highest profiled athletes in Los Angeles and that certainly had a value to bringing in both recruits and dollars.

Those above arguments can also be used against the current system and for restructuring the NCAA, but that is for another day. This is not a new system, it’s the same one that has been in place for many years and USC as a member institution has to live by those rules.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s not justice. That’s the NCAA saying “Just us.”

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually

for the NCAA and Auburn, this was a great move, gets the story out on a Wednesday (right before LeBron-Hate) and better yet, allows CBS to not have to worry about tainting their love fest for the SEC, Auburn and Newton on Saturday.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

It's dog shit, really

So the NCAA rules Dillon Baxter ineligible because he took a golf cart ride, yet Cam Newton is eligible to play when there’s a scandal going on behind the scenes. Brilliant.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s more of a bullshit issue because Newton’s “innocent” because it was his dad but it was Bush’s parents, not Reggie, who got the free house years ago.

Oh well…once again the NCAA has shown it’s ineptitude and inconsistency.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

On that note

SPORTSbyBROOKS: ’95: Damon Stoudamire suspended by NCAA for a game despite not knowing dad allegedly took benefits http://bit.ly/h6gy2G

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliffs notes version

With it being Anschutz, I assume a Charger team that moves to LA would be in a brand new stadium somewhere in or around downtown?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Those downtown stadium rumors start flying around every time Anschutz’ name is mentioned.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, ya. You disagree? That’s kind of his thing. Why else would he get involved.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

What is it, 10 miles? I’d call that “around” downtown.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

No I don’t disagree. Just think its still complete speculation that Anschutz will buy a chunk of the team. Goldman was hired to look for offers to buy a chunk of the team (as Spanos is looking to jettison a portion of his share for estate planning reasons).

Sure, Anschutz is probably looking at the deal but that doesn’t mean much at this point. I’m sure Anschutz is also talking to the Vikings.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be the worst thing ever. I’d rather a team I hate didn’t move to LA.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed completely

(though there should be a team in LA in general)

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by underdog on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Since I run the world — didn’t you know? — no, there shouldn’t. I love that I can drive places on Sunday. Football traffic will get in my way.

Football in LA, I CONDEMN THEE!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It won't be worst than

anytime USC plays a home game (though 5:00 p.m. Saturday is probably better than 1:00 p.m. Sunday)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

football traffic is a myth

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, once a condemnation has taken place, there is no appeal, even if the facts get in the way. It has to be that way; otherwise, the condemnation would have no teeth.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Appeal?

Even if a small package of money is left on your desk?

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, now that we've established that you're a slut.......

we’re now just haggling over price. (lol)

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

trying to churn out something for SBNLA on this, though I don’t have any new information

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

How bloody weird would it be

for ex Los Angeles Ram fans to have to welcome the Vikings into LA? I know most of us are dead but some of us can still rattle our bones.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

About as weird as all the LA Raider fans welcoming the Chargers.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The best part of the Chargers coming to LA

is that there would still be more Raiders fans during games against the Raiders in LA.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

and it was more awesome that I heard your comment in the voice of William Wallace.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s absolutely how I planned it.

When you’re old, dying in your bed, Charger fans will outnumber Raider fans in LA.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

i think forever. the raider fan is loyal to a fault. and it spans generations.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

“Snitches get stitches” might be the comment of the week, BTW

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get his head any bigger than it already is

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There is also the possibility

That a stadium would house two teams. So it could be the Vikings and the Chargers. Or Vikings and Bills or Chargers and Jaguars.

No one knows at this point but if Anschutz does buy a stake in the Chargers (or any other team) then its probably a done deal that they would move.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

No Thanks.

I still remember the 9-7 losses in the mud in Minnesota.
Theres a dent in my hall closet from my FULL beer hitting it.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

with no Favre and Chilly

I could like them in LA, but man that’d mean LA would have taken the Lakers and the Vikings from Minnesota. At least they have Darko Milicic.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

If I had a dollar

for every time a team unhappy with its stadium was “rumored” to be interested in moving to LA, I’d be rich enough to buy a team and move them to LA myself.

by Real DL on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Dustin Ackley

Bowden says he will be the Mariners’ starting 2B.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

they are expected to non-tender

Jose Lopez

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Cam Newton

To me, the fascinating part is that here in Auburn, nothing in the thread above has still been reported.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

I don't understand how Auburn fans can support him.

I mean, he is clearly the most evil person in history.
http://www.chadgibbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CAMESPN.jpg

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The fake headlines are hilarious, LMAO

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

fake?!?!

Also did you hear about the Bama PA guy getting fired for playing unapproved songs during warmup? Songs like “Take the Money and Run”

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

And “Son of a Preacher Man.” Students also showred Newton with monopoly money.

I don’t pretend to know the truth, but I’ve met Newton, and honestly he seems like a decent kid. I hope this is the end of it.

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it is strange that high profile names are vilified.

While I get the impression that SO many kids fly under the radar. Don’t get me wrong, if Newton broke the rules the NCAA should get involved, but the problem is the culture of major college athletics, not one kid who capitalized on it.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

All this talk of minor league prospects

has me reminiscing of the days when our farm system was so good, we won five straight NL ROYs. IIRC, it was Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo and Hollandsworth from ‘92-’96…ah, those were the days. Besides Kemp and Kershaw, who’s the most recent homegrown rookie to garner any decent amount of praise?

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Billingsley was the #7 prospect in baseball before 2006.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

It won't happen

but if Broxton was traded and Jansen was made the closer, my money would be on Jansen winning ROY.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Hollandsworth wasn’t that good, Nomo was a rookie by rule only, and Karros had great hair. Piazza was a once-a-generation talent, which puts him in his own category, and Mondesi was supremely talented but flawed.

I would say the Jax 5 (+ others) bumper crop showed signs of being even better than the group you mentioned.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

I’ll give you Hollandsworth but if we are just looking at the Jacksonville 5 (Guzman, Martin, Billingsley, Broxton and LaRoche), the Karros, Piazza, Mondesi and Nomo group put up more productive numbers thus far. Now if you want to replace Guzman and LaRoche with Kemp and Loney, it could begin to maybe equal it but Mondesi had good numbers and was the centerpiece in the deal for Shawn Green.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe

the discussion is about fanfare/praise/expectations over actual production, unless I’m reading it wrong

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

Nomo and Piazza got more praise by themselves during those years than anyone in the Jacksonville Five. Is that a fair comparison, no but it is the truth.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The truth is that Nomo is not in this discussion

since he said

has me reminiscing of the days when our farm system was so good,

We both lived through that period and you should remember that neither Piazza or Karros had a lot of fanfare, more people thought they would fail then succeed. That said what Piazza and Mondesi did is so much more then anything the non pitchers have accomplished from 2005 on, but the pitchers Kershaw/Billingsley/Broxton/Kuo kick ass.

I think this would be a good story comparing the two era’s, do you want to do it?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah sure, I can do it.

and we could probably talk about the difference of Drafts and minor league systems in general not being talked about that much unless you were a fantasy baseball player who had deep leagues (Mondesi was the first player I ever reserved on a fantasy team back in 1992)

Piazza’s story was more about Tommy than any chance he would become one of best catchers of all time.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

which makes it one of the greatest baseball stories in the history of baseball stories.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Just guessing that Piazza alone was almost as productive as all our guys combined.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Goes to show we need to get Loney and Martin on ’roids.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

then we’d have Palmeiro and BJ Surhoff

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

BJ Surhoff is my hero

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting choice

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He was one of my Dad’s favorites.

Lots of swing and miss, but hit ball….it go far

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Tough to be a little guy and hold the bat up like that!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Balboni

http://www.stevebalboni.com/

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a big moustache

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I picture

that would have been Ned if he was a player

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a big fan of Lowered Expectations

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Not quite

but if you put him and Mondesi together, they have 54.9 WAR during their careers in LA (Piazza 33.6, Mondesi 21.3) to 48 WAR (Loney, Kemp, Billingsley, Martin and Broxton)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Russ finished 9th in ROY voting because he came up the same year Duggla, Hanley, Johnson, Cain, Ethier and Zimmerman did. He made two All Star teams after that.

Loney got ROY votes too.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Your memory seems off

1. Nomo was not home grown
2. Hollandsworth sucked
3. Martin, Loney came up with more fanfare then Kemp
4. Broxton was kind of big
5. Billingsley had more fanfare then anyone but Kershaw

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The man who actually deserved Hollandsworth’s ROY: F.P. Santangelo. Really.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

bad years for rookies

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Renteria and Kendall were also way better. To Holly’s credit he was the rookie OPS leader.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

And both Renteria and Kendall are still making money off of that idea.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

For a few years

Renteria might have been the best NL SS.

And you know how good Kendall was.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Not anymore, tho.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It was, and still is

God help me, I was 8 years old in ‘92, so all I remember from most of those early childhood games are Dodger Dogs, cholos grilling carne asada in the left field pavilion, and a Dave Hansen pinch hit grand slam to beat the Giants 16-15…I can’t recall what year that game was, but I remember the energy in DS was like nothing I’d ever experienced before or since.

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

From Lakers beat reporter Kevin Ding
Lakers on 3-game losing streak. No Phil Jackson championship team has ever had 4-game losing streak. Game 4 in Houston tonight.

That is a cool stat.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

I wish the Lakers were playing the Clippers tonight

so we could end the Laker championship quest right now.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake Griffin is a beast

If John Wall stays injured for too much longer, he won’t have a chance to make up the ground he’s quickly losing in the ROY race. I’m a Laker fan first, but I’ve liked the Clippers as well since I first saw them play at the Sports Arena…Kevin Ducksworth and Pooh Richardson (can’t forget those names) were playing that night. Good times.

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The last (and only time) a Phil Jackson coached Laker team

lost 4 games in a row in a year they went to the NBA Finals was back in 2003-2004, where they lost all 4 games on a road trip, at Seattle, at the Clippers, at Minnesota and at Denver.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems just yesterday

we were talking about their great depth. Is Wall out this Sunday?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for us

The Clippers are playing the actual best team in the NBA tonight.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it matter who they play?

/ducks

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

From the teams the Clipper have played, clearly OKC ain’t shit.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

So no chance of crossing them?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

don’t cross the streams. I’m not pulling out he Egon quote, mainly because I have used it within the last month.

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

What would you know about ghosts?

Oh yeah.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

we prefer “Transcendent incorporeal being.”

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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

So

In arbitration hearings, are injuries even considered?

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Yep

But a player also can’t take a cut of more than 20% if he is tendered a contract.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

man

the MLB players union is good

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by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

And no one ever takes a paycut.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. And no incentives can be part of arbitration settlements, I assume.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Just straight salaries in arbitration (through a hearing).

The incentives would have to be worked out on a separate basis.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

you just submit two figures, that’s it.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

guys

this laptop allows me to comment virtually ANYWHERE.

this is going to be very bad for my productivity.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 1, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

who needs productivity when you have. . . .

THE INTERNET!

0oo0oo0000oo0o00ooo0oo0o0ooo0o0o0. . .. . . . . .

by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Let us know when the post office line is real long.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Red Soxare meeting with Crawford in Houston.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

I’m sure they wind up with one of Crawford or Werth. What a waste of Crawford’s athleticism though in LF at Fenway.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

RTTS

My road to the show character on MLB the Show is reaching levels of awesome, but I am still under arbitration with a crappy Texas Rangers team, and they won’t trade me like I ask. I am desperately looking forward to FA.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

the levels of realism their are actually kind of scary

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, it has been really weird for me. I am six years in, been in the majors for 4, when can I go to a team that has a chance of winning? :)

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never played it, do you take all the at bats and play in the field or is it all simmed or a mix?

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You can set it to however you like. I take all of the AB’s and about 1/2 of the fielding chances.

You can set it to take all opportunities. You can also change the baserunning sets to only control your player when he is the lead runner or all chances.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly…I have played most of the games, but one season I just simmed along the way and increased my attributes. In 2014 I hit .310 with 31 HRs and 100RBIs at age 22. I regressed a little due to injury, but I am back on track in 2016

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a guy that is 20 or 21. He is a RF switch hitter. I started with the Dodgers, got traded to Boston in a deal that sent John Lester to LA. I then got traded to the Angels. I’d never played a ML game until I got to Anaheim.

I hit about .305 with 17HR and 85 RBI in about 430 AB’s in 2012. Then got sent to AAA to start 2013. Havent played it since.

I was pissed. David Murphy is starting in front of me!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like when Loney got sent down :) You would get called up right away.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't played that in months

I’m busy on my NBA 2K11 Rockets franchise. They really suck, but have a lot of good young players, plus at least 2 first round draft picks for next year’s draft. The future is coming in Houston! But fuck them tonight.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 1, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Salsa Verde Doritos are underrated.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

As are Cool Ranch

But don’t come near me with the regular Nacho Cheese flavor. Blah.

by Real DL on Dec 1, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

it works as a part of their munchie mix that they sale, but not as a sole party

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

disregard that sentence. I just wrote two articles and sat in on a conference call my word making part of my head is loopy

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

OT, but… I tried making a pumpkin pie. Results were not up to par =(.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

the mixing of the custard is the key, you have to get even distribution

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It came out too sweet. I used the condensed milk thing that had the picture of the cow on the can. I didn’t add any other sweetener (the recipe I followed didn’t say to).

But the oven was a huge problem. My mom’s oven had the temperature numbers on the dial all scratched out and we could not find our oven thermometer. I wonder if that contributed to the taste not being quite right…

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

you might have gotten sweetened condensed milk, on accident, but I think they’re all SCM. The oven would only affect burning or not cooking, not sweetnes. Also could just be the brand of pumpkin you got, always make sure you taste everything as you cook.

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Le sigh. I think they’re all sweetened and the can said to use sweetened.

I used the Whole Foods organic pumpkin and everything. I dunno. It wasn’t my best effort, and I’m typically terrible at anything the first time I do it. I’ll try to do more research and attempt things again for Christmas.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d offer to help, but I’m in la ciudad de los angeles

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, home for me IS in the LA area… and my next attempt will also be while I’m in SoCal. But I think I can manage. I may run the ingredients and recipe by you first though…. expect some emails =X.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

pumpkin pie is super easy.

i cheat a bit and use pre-made pie dough (the roll out frozen/refridge kind) and use canned pumpkin puree, but just add some half and half, sugar, and a few spices… super easy.

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. You made me feel better after my pathetic first attempt. Now I feel even more incompetent.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I can send you a pretty simple recipe for

a very good and easy pie that easier to serve.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks! That would be helpful.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My email address on my profile forwards to my real one.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t consider Cool Ranch underrated. It’s probably their most popular flavor.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

2nd most then. Either way, those are the two I see the most.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

def not underrated

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Does $43

Seem a little high to get names stitched into 3 stockings?

It does to me.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

Maddz can do it for $25

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

But I’d have to pay shipping to and fro.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Take the $43 and buy some really cool stocking stuffers instead!

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Money already spent

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

So this was one of those ..... something something questions

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

is it hypothetical

if he’s already done it?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t looking for alternate plans, I just wanted to know if that seemed like too much.

Don’t over think it, I’m not smart enough to try and trick everyone.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Go to an old folks home

Pretend to be nice to someone, and they will do it for free.

Happy Holidays! :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

All Dodger fans should watch this

sad ending but what a video, sung by the great Dodger fan, the Court Jester, Danny Kaye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7qYcyUjDPU

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

this is great. thanks!

Did not know he was a Dodger fan. Danny Kaye is one of my favorite actors…especially in the Court Jester: the pellet with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon, the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!

by DodgerSF on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts on Loney for Ian Desmond, then mapping out this infield:

1B Blake
2B Desmond
SS Furcal
3B Uribe

Any good?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt they trade him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

My thought is that it will never happen.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I like our current infield of Loney-Uribe-Furcal-Blake better. If we are going to trade Loney, I would hope that they would target BJ Upton.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

then i would hope

they signed Dunn

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

4/60 is too rich for Ned.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

may be what he wants

but not what he gets. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunn would be ideal, but I would settle for D. Lee.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm surprised this option

hasn’t been considered more seriously. After his injury-plagued year last year, how cheap could we get Derrek Lee for? I’d be happy with D.Lee/Uribe/Furcal/The Beard manning the diamond…not a bad defense at all, and it’ll only make the pitching look even more like money well spent.

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee is one year removed from putting up a .972 OPS, though he may be seen as on the decline which would drive his price down. I think he could be had for 1/8 with and option.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd call that

money VERY well spent. Now, can he play LF and 3B as well? :-)

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

nay

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Andruw Jones was one year removed from …….

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true, although I think the warning signs were greater with Jones. Plus Lee has been doing the every other year thing for a while, so next year he is due for a big one.

by OB12 on Dec 1, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

or he could just be aging.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

CBlake’s bat doesn’t play at 1B any better than Loney’s.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, but there’s nowhere else to put him in that far fetched scenario.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

(looks over a the bench) i could think of a spot

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you trade Blake for Desmond?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Schad from the Mothership

is reporting that there is zero chance Jon Gruden will become The University of Miami’s football coach.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

A surprise from Boras

per Venezuelan reporter Augusto Cardneas:

CarGo just confirmed his agent (Scott Boras) has been negociating a long term contract with the #Rockies

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

There’s no way it buys out FA years.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Then would it be long term?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

CarGo does have four years until FA, so it would qualify as long term I suppose.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

josh byrnes sez

be careful who you hitch your wagon to and sign to long term contracts

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

More fodder for Phil’s article on the Pirates picking up former top prospects…Pittsburgh has now signed (former top MLB prospect) Andy Marte to a minor league deal,, per Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

So what’s up with Marte? He doesn’t strike out too much and hits for decent power, but he can’t seem to hit over .230.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow really going after the BA top 20 in 2006

now they need Jeremy Hermida, Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, Connor Jackson, Salty
they already have
Marte, LaRoche, and Milledge

I have to think the top 20 in 2006 is as unfulfilled a class as you can have.
Guys who made it:
Verlander, Justin Upton, Billingsley, Liriano, Drew, Cain, Fielder, Zimmerman

Guys who might
D Young, Howie Kendrick, Ian Stewart,

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2006/26660.html

yes I know LaRoche was released.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Movember is over, shave the stache?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Leave it alone.

It isn’t hurting anyone!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like a mugshot at Lompoc

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That is why I wear a hat

so I don’t scare the children

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

you could grow out the beard and dye it black?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, We need more moustaches.

Keep it

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife said the first thing people notice about you are the eyes.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

rec’d, because that was my exact thought. No AB tattoo though

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you should take a smaller photo.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s another thought

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

To much of me is never a good thing

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

like this

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That hurt

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife is right

I focused right on the eyes.

Not a bad ’stache at all, but you are getting a bit grizzled to be sporting the other whiskers!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not bad for 30 days

but the first two weeks it was kind of scarce, glad to see it filled out. This stache has no chance of staying unless I don’t want to kiss my wife for the rest of my life.

Strange, my first wife only liked me with a stache and Verdell hates me with it.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife had never seen me without one

until I shaved it last New Year’s Eve. She like the w/out better.

I know which of your wives I would side with, if I were you.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that is a long time

sounds like you got a better reception after you shaved then I did. Based on the new Avatar I’d agree with her.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree too

I guess I didn’t realize how cheesy it was until it was gone. (I last shaved it off at 19, so 29 years or so in between shavings!)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

(It was summer, so 29.5 years.)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesoke

your moustache was older then 90% of the TBLA membership

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe I never used a “my fucking mustache is older than you” line here. Dang.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Josie would point out that you have a “fucking mustache,” and we will all laugh.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are straight, and you don’t have a fucking moustache, you are doing it wrong.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

well played, you cunning linguist, well played

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow!

I’m pissed that I didn’t get to use that one first!
 I usually use that one for ties. re: “i’ve got ties older than you!”

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Leave the Stache!
Leave the Stache!
Leave the Stache!
Leave the Stache!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

What does your wife say about it?

Not that, y’know, it’s her stache. You get to decide. But a female meercat unimpressed with a moustache can be a dangerous thing.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

See above

you are right

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Extend it

Grow it into a full fu manchu, like Broadway Joe once sported:

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't do it

I seem to lose a bit just below the lower lip, but if I could that is what I’d go for.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the same

gap problem, almost nothing there, and then in the “beard area”, not enough either. I am simply just not that hairy.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I shaved today.

I am not shaving again until New Years Day.

Gonna be a hairy beast.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

D’Backs continue their quest to sign every bad player in baseball, acquire Wily Mo Pena.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

I didn’t even know he was still IN baseball

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

They suck, no doubt.

should be an interesting race between them and the Fathers for the basement

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Have they held a dual press conference yet

to announce the signings of Russ and Ramon Ortiz?

by TomasC on Dec 1, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

My Favorite Wily Mo Related Thing

An official MLB ball costs 13 dollars retail.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

swesoke = sweet and awesoke?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Good catch..

And I say yes.

From now on, I will use swesoke

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds kinda Arkie too. Sweeeeeeeeeeee!soke.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Belongs on the sleeve

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

so his DAR

is $-3?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I see no other way to take this.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Best response

came from Mariners minor league broadcaster Mike Curto:

Wily Mo could put up huge – HUGE – numbers in Reno

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I once sent a man to Reno just to watch his career die?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

When the curveball comes a rollin, he hangs his head and cries….

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, I found out we have to work on New Year’s Eve. But they’re gonna pay us time-and-a-half to compensate for the holiday.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

That sucks….having to work.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, especially HERE, on Colorado Blvd.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, that really sucks. Park your car 2 blocks away (towards where you live)

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife has to work

Christmas Eve and Christmas Day; New Years Eve and New Years Day.

She is less than pumped.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Remind me, are you looking to become a teacher?

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

i actually had an interview today for another sub job, as my other one hasnt called me in at all yet haha

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I will be on a furlough during the holidays. we are shutting down for a week or so.

I get off at 10 pm on 12/23 and go back at 8 am on 1/3

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We have paid holidays from 12/24 to 1/3 this year. We have holidays from Xmas to New Year’s every year. One of the best perks of the job. Of course we only have five other holidays throughout the rest of the year: Memorial, Independence and Labor Days, plus two for Thanksgiving. Good deal though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That whole week is a paid holiday?

We have paid holidays from 12/24 to 1/3 this year

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes indeed. Nice benefit, eh?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That is cool. Good for you man!

We get New Years, Memorial, Independence, Labor, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

I get 18 vacation days per year. And those holidays.

You got me crushed!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

18 is pretty good

I’m old and have more experience. I accrue a lot of vacation too, somewhere between 20 and 25 days now, I think.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

jeez, do you live in Europe or something?!?!? ;D

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

25 days is sweet.

18 is our Max.

I’m 13 years in here.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m old and have more experience

Twenty fucking seven years with company gets you something!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn PaPa!

When do you get your gold watch?

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a serious consideration for me!

Five years from tomorrow I will be eligible for retirement. Can’t afford to, but eligibility is important.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

eligibility is important, no doubt.

Are all of your kids out of the house now?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My one and only is, but not out of the wallet (college senior).

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

okay

I thought you had more….but you used to/ or still host exchange students?

Maybe that is where I’m confused. I thought you had a few kids.

College SR not bad. The work is almost done!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Many students, but none currently.

Yup, the light at the end of the tunnel is in sight.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Two years ago, a woman who gives us some advice about how to invest our money told me, “If you don’t have another kid, never move again, and send Spawn to public school, you can retire at age 51.”

Since then, I’ve had another kid, which is probably going to necessitate a bigger house, and we have to figure out school… and I can’t stop thinking about the fifteen years I’m going to have to work to make that decision pay off.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it’s nice, I don’t get the week and all I get in return is Presidents Day.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You work for the wrong company in this business. Anytime you want to transfer your skills over here, lemme know.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely worth thinking about.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

In reality, there isn’t that much difference between the big boys in this industry, but your company is a little different. You must really bring down the average age around there, judging by the folks I deal with from there.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the youngest person I interact with on a regular basis is 12 years older than me. There’s reasons why we were named one of the best companies for seniors.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of folks in this biz retire and then go work there.

My office mate is 27. He was born one week after I started here.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

that must be a great topic of fun for the both of you. I’m glad I still get along great with my younger co – workers, I can still remember how full of myself I was at 27 so it is my job to puncture them whenever I can.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It's useful both ways

I give him the whippersnapper treatment, he gives me the old goat one.

The few under 30s we got around here are mostly ok, but, yeah, I do find myself in “old war story” and curmudgeon mode quite a bit.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There are several people in my department that have been here longer than I’ve been alive. They’re mostly in curmudgeon mode.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The lesson you should learn is that they all outlasted management stupidity. It can be done.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was 30 I was a curmedgeon

now I’m their friendly Uncle.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn!

I had to work 30 years to become head curmudgeon at work. Now I have a business card to tell everyone so.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been in curmudgeon mode since I was 25. I turned 25, went to work that day, and suddenly realized I had 40 more years of that shit coming to me. Since then, I have been unpleasant.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

quite some time ago

someone here called me “the world’s youngest curmudgeon”. You have me beaten.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well now I’m depressed.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

our curmudgeon job is done then

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

Mission Accomplished

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It does get better when you get to the point of having “fuck you” credibility. They purged enough people around here way back when that they need my experience here, so I can’t simply just be pushed around. This allows me to circumvent a certain amount of management stupidity.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Just 15 more years to go then!

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

In her new job? Way to stick it to the newcomer!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope the old one.

she starts the new one in the middle of Jan.

She is working weekend option right now. Holidays are on the weekend this year.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

work or go out with the girls?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Working this time!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife starts here vacation on Dec 20th

and does not go back for quite a while. Teachers rule, no wonder Tripon and Snobby are trying to break in.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Snobby doesn’t need that much time off!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the deal with Colorado Blvd?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha.

People who don’t live in CA or give a fuck about parades don’t memorize the route.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

From April to September.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta be back for Football.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Football not that big a deal

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

True

if you run with UCLA

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh that hurts me too.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

that does not hurt me

so you are saying CFB is bigger than MLB for you?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

and you don’t even go to the games anyways. you can watch all that stuff from here.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m probably getting season tickets again next year. I stopped 2 years ago bc of my daughter being here and I am the Commandant on the Weekends.

But we are probably gonna buy 4 season tickets next year and get back in the swing of it.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I’d rather live in SC than in ARK.

But my wife would never go for that.

She has to see her Mom and Sister all the freakin time.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t Arkies migrate in hordes anyway?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Mostly.

But I would want to be out here with just the wife and kid.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of arkies moved to my city around the war to work in the shipyards.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is “your” city?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Researching…..

Stand By

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

it means

St. Peter

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was German for a whale’s testicles….

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a nice enough city…

You ever eat at Ports O’call?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

no

ports o’ call is embarrassing. an eyesore. was a top destination 20-30 years ago but poor management killed it.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. Just checking out google maps.

Scanning the area

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

like any port town of 100 years ago. most popular for bars and an abundance of tattoo businesses.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

How about Muy Prontos Tacos and El Frijolito Mexican Food?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

nah

If i am in the mood for that, I go for Las Brisas #2 maybe Brite Spot

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Spill your guts BH!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

dammit

“you used to be a dick?” would have been funnier

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

By that much

/Max Smart

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Shoe phone always fucking ringing at the wrong moment

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Some little civic event I think.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s probably a million people camping out.

Not sure why. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I knew the economy was bad but….

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

So I have read everything on this Cam Newton thing

And I’ve come to the conclusion that the NCAA fields a staff that trolls. An NCAA spokeswoman publicly said that the act of soliciting money is a violation. Now the new rule is it is only a violation if the athlete knows. Also, now the parents are able to solicit cash payments for their sons, because it is within NCAA rules.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

See the tweet I posted above.

NCAA had no problem punishing Damon Stoudamire even though he didn’t know.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Damon Stoudamire. The reason Arkansas won the strap in 94.

He went 3-21 or so in the Semis.

Keep jackin it up Mighty Mouse!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So the NCAA is claiming he had no clue his Dad was pimping him for cash?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. Hence Julio’s “troll” comment.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Not only that

But, if I’m reading this clear, IT’S OK for boosters to send cash to parents to get their son to play football for their school.

The NCAA everyone!

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm. I hope you’re reading it wrong. I doubt you are, but I hope you are.

That is crazy. I have a huge problem with the NCAA telling me CN had no clue his Dad was trying to get paid.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey man…BTW…great win last week of the Hat.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, thank god Arkansas blew LSU’s balloon of luck. That was joy.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Keith is okay with blowing

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m okay with gettin head…

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally

I found myself rooting the Hogs for the first time every just because of Keith. My family was watching the game and asked why I was rooting for the hogs, I said because Keith is a hog, and that is all it took for us to find a common interest in a game we cared nothing about.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be hilarious if my girlfriend knew who Keith was. It would rank very highly in my “WTF” moments list.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This is where you just make some shit up!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That part of the family knows who Keith is

they read the blog. So when I said he was a pompous ass from Ar Kansas they knew it was the truth but they also knew that since he’s TBLA family we had to root for him.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow…..Pompous Ass…..

That hurts

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwwwww

Gettin me all gooey inside.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I was the same way. I was screaming when they scored right before the end of the 1st half. My wife and son were wondering what game I was watching.

I was happy for Keith (the hog) but also for LSU to lose. They are the most pompous of all the SEC teams.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Truth be told I only cared about LSU losing

fuck the hogs.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s an image.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

so isnt that a long drive to fayetteville for the games?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

A little over 2 hours

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean my folks could have made a fortune off of my tremendous athletic skills?

Actually, this should be good for USC’s efforts to lessen the sanctions. It was Bush’s parents living rent-free, so they can say since it’s now legal and we went above and beyond by firing our AD, you can stop the sanctions after this year. I like it.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Reggie take a car?

/not an expert on the Bush thing

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

the main issue was a house

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Just because there was an alleged car in the garage of said house…

I never saw anything in the NCAA report on a car.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

USC can’t use this issue against the NCAA. They’re both different.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if you know this

But the NCAA has told USC they can’t even use the McNair situation for their appeal when clearly, that was the most important factor because USC “should know or should’ve known”.

Fuck the NCAA in the heart man, this is such a bummer..

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s pretty shitty.

But at least they’re doing everything humanly possible to stay above board.

But i think they should expel that Egan kid…who the fuck needs an agent as a student on campus. And how in the hell did he get certified anyway?

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That's on the NFLPA

By the way, if you don’t know, the NFLPA are idiots too.

I don’t understand why Baxter was deemed inelibigle for their game against Arizona. Baxter said he didn’t know. Oh, but Cam is A-OK because he didn’t know his Dad was getting $100,000+ for his son to play football.

Stupid, stupid, stupid

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, i know that.

The Baxter thing is just Haden trying to go overboard to stay clean. It’s hell, but it will definitely help our chances when we appeal next month.

by KellyStephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly

I don’t know if you have read this yet, but here some fighting words from Haden. I just read this:

Link

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

its pretty hard to win an appeal when the same people who issued the original findings are the ones who set the rules and decide the appeal.

But to be clear, even when you appeal a lawsuit, you are not allowed to use evidence that was not introduced and admitted at trial. So anything that the NCAA did post their earlier finding against USC would not be relevant.

The McNair thing is unfortunate and not fair but I thought the jig was up once I learned who heard the appeal

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t suspensions get reduced in baseball all the time after appeal?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

same people who issued the original findings are the ones who set the rules and decide the appeal.

Wrong. The appeal committee are not the same people.

The McNair thing is unfortunate and not fair but I thought the jig was up once I learned who heard the appeal

Huh? Who?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhh

I get you, you’re saying the NCAA is the NCAA…

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Boooohahahah!

Hello my fellow fans! HOpe you all didn’t miss me! Any Yankme fans in here today to bash? lol. I see a few of you took to my nickname for the Bronx Bombers?

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Really though......

You all didin’t bother me yesterday and i am glad I found this place. Welcome to me. So….any news on Russell Martin?

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

I hope

the ones on the left and right exchanged those pieces right there between snapshots.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If only Blake's sister was in that photo:)

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

wow....

where was this at? I liked the drunk Mex girl in the middle. Right up my alley! lol

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the one of the right, much easier to objectify her with her head cropped off.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that is J-Woww before implants

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That reminds me of comedian Greg Fitzsimmons

who often in the middle of his sets will attempt to guess the exact ethnicity of Asians in the audience. He similarly claims to be an authority on the subject.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

How succesful is he in doing that?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He claims to never miss. I have never seen him attempt it, but listen to his podcast.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of a Buddy Hackett joke/routine/one-liner I heard

Buddy goes up to a woman in the audience. “Are you Jewish?” he asks.

The woman replies that yes, she is Jewish.

“I knew it,” Hackett says. “I’d recognize Jewish tits anywhere.”

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Not fair

I’m laughing and can’t stop

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

{instantly adds to weak repertoire}

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

hahah Latina!

not Latrina, that sounds like a a hoodrat walking around Crenshaw Bl.

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

nice way to rehabilitate your hip

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned: So, Russ, how is the rehab going?
Martin: Great boss. Doin’ hundreds of hip thrusts daily.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No one ever said rehad had to be unpleasant

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

the J is for...never mind

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I would expect it tomorrow. The will use all the time they can to figure out what to do and/or negotiate.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I figured that.....

seems like every available Free Agent catcher out there is being targeted by the Dodgers. I don’t know what to believe, lol.

by The Real Pancho on Dec 1, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The should speak with all the FA catchers in order to gauge the market properly. Also, Martin may simply not want to sign for the max the Dodgers want to offer, so they should be prepared.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 1, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No news that I’ve heard.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We will probably here more in the next 48 hours.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn – looks like USA is going to get jobbed for 2022 WC tomorrow morning.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

Oh really? What happened?

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We didn't bribe enough judges

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

they appear to be third in the voting. Qatar 22 here we come!

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

i read numerous soccer websites and blogs throughout my day.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah but it’s not like they have exit polls for this kind of thing, I’m just wondering where the source for this is

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

hearsay

i will just say this. I would be shocked, shocked if USA made it past the second round tomorrow.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i’ll believe hearsay and conjecture about the same time I take MLBTR seriously

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Your such a reporter

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So who do you think is getting 18 and 22?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t make a logical conclusion knowing as little as I know

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

How’s it feel being Editor of the Year?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we all need to send Ned a thank you note

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

this fits in perfectly

with the soccer discussion, no wonder I like this site.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone else not find her attractive? I mean I don’t at all

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

well duh you don't

you’re a robot…….made of nails :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Well played, well played

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Butter face:

Damned smoking body. Kinna like Camron Diaz (sp?)

by Grimjack on Dec 1, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate you so much right now

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Your hate will make you powerful.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael deleted my photo

with a great line because of no subject.

David does it all the time.

I protest

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The man is keeping you down!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He only does it because I support the greatness that is the SEC

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I try to delete them as soon as they come in. If there’s already comments under it, I just ignore it because I don’t want to lose the conversation.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The new face of the franchise?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I will go out on a limb

Russia and Qatar barf and barf I guess i will never go to a WC.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Colombia vs. USA at the Rose Bowl in 94

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I took my niece to see the

Womans Cup victory at the Rose Bowl. That was all kinds of awesoke, I figure if I’m going to watch soccer I might as well go to the big game.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I was actually at that game too.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna go with Spain/Portugal and USA, Spain has goodwill going from their WC win and FIFA out of the choices would rather gain more leverage over USMNT than any of the other countries

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we will be going in five months time

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I getting to go?

I’m a great time, I tell ya!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Spain/Portugal would be a good site.

They have good fans.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

bribery

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If Furcal screws up his back again, does Uribe play SS everyday? Or does Jamey Gamer fill-in as usual?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

I'd bet on Uribe playing SS

but with Torre it would have been Carroll since he didn’t like moving his starters around.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So Carroll plays 2nd?

Otherwise, we’ll need to call-up Hu, or DeJesus, or figure out where Juan Castro is hiding.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

wasn't the whole thing last year

that he was gonna be the 2B if Dewitt failed?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

People were banking on Belliard/DeWitt in a platoon.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But then Belliard showed up shaped like a pontoon.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He weighed under 209!!!!!

That was his goal weight..

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

at which point the only thing people were banking on was a harpoon.

by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you be comfortable for Gamer to play SS everyday? I think they should switch it up.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

My Dad is pumped that the Hogs are recruiting LB from Phoenix College. He played FB there.

I think it’s funny how excited he is….

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the best program Arkansas hasn’t ever played?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t know.

I don’t think we’ve ever played Ohio State. We’ve never played Florida State. Don’t know about Notre Dame.

We’ve played Texas, USC, Michigan, Boise State….

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Never played Notre Dame.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

so

if AR gets an LB from PC where he played FB hell be PDE?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

he’ll

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell

Each of the past two years, Mitchell has seen action at 1b/2b/3b/lf/rf. If he can make some consistent hard contact, he could be a real useful guy to carry on the bench. (Just doing my due diligence on the 2011 roster.)

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

I think he will be given every opportunity to prove his worth in Spring Training.

by BFDC on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

then be replaced by a worthless NRI whom Ned’s afraid of losing.

by kinbote on Dec 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap

I just read up on the game “Killer Bunnies” and now I have to get it

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to do.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I must have this game. I love new card/board games, and it gets amazing reviews. This will be a perfect game to play while camping out on Colorado for the Rose Parade and drinking margaritas from a sippy cup

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

A game based on Monty Python?!?!?!? what’ll they think of next!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Did USC or UCLA ever play Cal State LA (when they had a DII football program)?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

I believe UCLA is one of a handful of programs in the country that has NEVER played a D 1-AA or lower team.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Great point….

I should be ashamed we played 7 ranked teams this year….

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

but when you play little sisters of the poor the other 5 times.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you still have a tougher schedule than Boise St.

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Boise St.'s schedule

ranks 62 in the Sagarin rankings. For comparison, Oregon is 19, Arkansas is 17, Oklahoma is 12, TCU is 76

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot to mention Wisconsin

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

the Big 10 sucked this year, this isn’t news

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

This started from discussing non-conference games and how teams like Arkansas just rely on conference opponents and play teams like Kennesaw State. The fact that Auburn’s SOS is good is by chance. The reason Wisconsin’s schedule is bad is also by chance.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and there is 0% chance of the WAC schedule ever being respectable. TCU took the hint, it’s time for Boise St. to take their talents to somewhere else

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I literally don’t know where TCU and Boise State came from in this conversation and what they have to do with UCLA or Arkansas.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

well we veered far off course once delia’s got involved. In answer to silverwidow’s question:

UCLA has played CSULB and CSU Fullerton
USC has played Cal Poly

neither of them has played CSULA

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA has played LACC, Hollywood High, and LA Manual Arts HS

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

that is back when whittier college was probably the best team in california. them and occidental

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Pardon my ignorance

but were any outside of your conference? Because Michael White tells me your conference is the most overrated conference in the history of conference ranking so if that is all you have to hang you hat on, then maybe you need a new coat rack.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

For that answer

I give the photo you want above.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you think Arkansas would crush Nevada?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

who do you want to play in the bowls?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

someone good.

Looking like Ohio State right now. That would be cool with me.

That would be apretty good game, IMO.

I’m sure the majority of people on here think we’d get crushed because we are overrated.

But it would be a great game.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be wary of the Big10, the top three have been eating softie flakes all year

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sugar Bowl could pick Stanford. That would a strong game.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d watch that, and I’d woooooo pig sooie the whole game

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd have to support the pac 10

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I don’t believe they could pick Stanford.

Unless another bowl went crazy and selected UCONN.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sugar gets the #1 at large pick, I believe.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Which would be Arkansas, right?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

so help me on this

If Oregon is going to the title game

Can the Rose Bowl pick anyone they want or does it have to be Stanford / Wisconsin?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

they have to pick the top non auto qualifier

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The Rose Bowl must pick a non-AQ school and that will be TCU.

The other berth is the Big-10 champ (Wisconsin).

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

why can’t it be stanford TCU?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the Rose must take the Big 10 champ.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

They want 45,000 people to travel to SC and spend money for a week.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

No doubt

But this goes along with what we discussed about the Sugar Bowl the other day.

I almost think they’d rather have Wisconsin if they could only get 1 of em.

They will spend more time and money in LA.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Big 10 and Pac 10 champ always go to Rose Bowl unless 1 is in the national title game.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

Stewart Mandel addressed the reasoning for this bizarre rule where the Rose Bowl has to take TCU in his mailbag today.

The sole reason the rule was put in place this year requiring the Rose Bowl to take a non-AQ replacement team was due to grumbling from the other bowls that they were constantly getting stuck with the non-AQs (the Fiesta has hosted four, the Sugar two) but that the Rose never did because it has two conference partners. So no, I don’t think one of the other bowls that lobbied for the rule to begin with would suddenly let the Rose off the hook the first time the scenario came up. Not to mention that in 12 years, the BCS has yet to let a pair of games swap teams.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the bowls don’t like them because it takes money out of their pocket.

Your motive is to be a hater.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing

if Oregon and Stanford go to BCS bowls, the Pac-10 conference, the Pac-10 will get somewhere close to $25M which should help make up for the fact that they at most will send two other schools to bowl games this year (after sending 6 or 7 in 2009).

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

i get that.

but they should still take the pac 10 team that is available and good.

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Choosing the Pac 10 runner up instead of the Big Ten champ? I don’t see any reason for that.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

because Stanford is better?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t get behind this one. Wisconsin won* the Big Ten. They deserve to go to the Rose Bowl.

*won is used loosely these days

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather see a

MSU / Wisconsin rematch but that would not help the Big 10, as Wisconsin kicking TCU butt won’t help either.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Two teams from the same conference sounds terrible. I always hate it when a bowl is a rematch.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Ten Network. Great HD.

I like all the conferences…..except 1.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

watching LB state Washington last night not in HD was painful

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

People that I know who know people

on the Rose Bowl/Parade Committee have told me that they love the tradition and also, especially if its a school that hasn’t been here in a while like Wisconsin, they storm the area.

I don’t think they are as happy about the BCS title game since that is on a Thursday, it completely shuts down the city on a work day and it is just a big hassle.

I am fairly sure, they would love just to have the old Rose Bowl and leave it at that.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure they would.

As a fan, part of me would rather that too.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If Oregon goes to the title:

1) They are guaranteed Wisconsin
2) Because TCU finished in the top 4, they HAVE to pick them.

The Rose Bowl game is essentially set unless Oregon State pulls off the miracle

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yuck

TCU is the last team I’d want to see in the Rose Bowl. Badgers can’t be happy their opponent are the horned frogs.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Stanford travel well?

I have no clue.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I would think they would have to rely on Alumni to travel.

That is tough on a school.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This is an argument against a playoff

whereas you cannot expect fans to travel 2 or 3 times to a site far away to watch a playoff game.

Now if you had played at someone’s home field, well that could help.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL playoff games are essentially a home game for whatever team, and that’s against the bowl game spirit

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, that’s why I always argued against those who said you could incorporate the bowls in a playoff system.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

An 8 team playoff would have to start with the top 4 teams hosting a game.

Then go to the BCS Bowls and NC game.

I guess.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think that’s two much travel. 2 neutral site games in 2 weeks?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Too much travel is right…

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

No

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

When meercat takes the holidays off

he takes them off. Joking with you but this was discussed a lot over the weekend

Under the BCS rules for 2011-2014 (or so)
The Rose Bowl is contracted to take a Non-Automatic qualifying team (like TCU) if they lose one of their contracted teams (Pac 10, Big 10) to the BCS Title game. So unless TCU goes to the Title game, they will play in the Rose Bowl, more than likely against Wisconsin.

This year the Sugar Bowl as first choice of the teams not contracted to other BCS bowl games or the Title game and they also get a choice before that to replace Auburn, if Auburn wins the SEC and goes to the Title game.

So the Sugar Bowl would more than likely take Arkansas to replace Auburn, most think they will take Ohio State as the opponent. The Orange Bowl is next, they will have the winner of the ACC Conference and could choose the Big East Conference champion or Stanford (who is currently in 4th place, thus an automatic at-large team) The Fiesta Bowl has the last pick, so the Big 12 champion will play whoever doesn’t go to the Orange Bowl.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

True

I did not read any comments over the three day weekend, as I expect many other TBLA readers. Thanks for the info

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I am now very unhappy we will be hosting

TCU, may not bother going to the game.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been a few times

but my Uncle is Badger Alumni and my family history is all Wisconsin so I was thinking of going this year hoping it was Stanford as the opponent.

Rose Bowl games are great fun, my 1st was 1975 when my favorite Bruin Wendall Tyler beat Ohio State. My last was when UCLA got beat by Wisconsin.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You could get lucky and have Wisconsin vs. Oregon.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Oregon will wipe out Wisconsin. Oregon vs. TCU!!!!!

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

he's rooting for Auburn to lose next week

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, right.

There’s already chatter that Auburn would still go even if they lose.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like that to happen

just because the BCS would be TCU / Auburn and how awful would that be?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell Wendall his son should be a star next year.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It was cool that

Tyler was my favorite Bruin and then was drafted by the Rams. When he wasn’t fumbling he was exciting to watch.

I take it his son is at USC instead of UCLA? That is awful news.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

You can watch him as he will run through his father’s alma mater this Saturday… Or not.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm ill

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been three times

USC vs Ohio State ’85
UCLA vs Wisconsin ’94 & ’99

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a friend.....

Stop me if you’ve heard this one….
I had a friend who’s father was the head baseball coach at UCLA from 1939-1975 and he got premium seats for life. He sold us seats from 1991 -1999 that were the best I’ve ever had at a football game. You walk out of tunnel 4, turn right and sit down. Right on the 50. in the esteemed Alumni section.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

I’m going to assume those tickets went with him when he passed away?
http://www.cocoaexpo.com/baseball/tournaments/ldc/Art%20Reichle.htm

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

No. His son still has them in perpetuity

(That’s a long time!)
He was an alumnus, and still gets them and sells them to friends. The same people, except for me, have been going since the early ’90’s.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gone 3 times.

Washington State vs. Oklahoma
USC vs. Michigan
Michigan vs. Texas

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks strange just seeing

Michigan vs Texas

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It should have been Cal vs. Michigan.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I am tempted to go to the Pasadena lottery so I could sell the tickets.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

Looks like USC has never played a FCS team either. Neither has Notre Dame.

Can anybody confirm?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt ND has with their independent asses!

Don’t know about USC.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at all.

I respect the Pac 10. I personally think they are the 2nd or 3rd best conference in the country. They have good teams and great historical programs.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't change the fact UCLA is playing like a FCS team

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect there will be a game on Saturday. Lane is 0-1 against Neuheisel, yes things are surely different now, but USC hasn’t convinced me that their offense is all that better than UCLA’s…

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Norm Chow vs. the vaunted USC Defense!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just saying that I would not come n here and bash a team that plays in a AQ conference and plays quality talent. That’s all.

Some come on here and crush conferences because they don’t like em….And it makes no sense.

I’m not.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Not getting to me. But your hatred of a conference because of what others say is odd to me.

You seem way too smart to be affected by what others say. Just not in this case.

I wish you would change how you thought about it, but you’re a grown up. You’ll do what you

want. That’s cool with me.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t sit around and wait for me to get into it with MW.

I respect him way too much for that. The previous post came off the wrong way.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think you should back down

considering how much he disses your conference. It is like he’s calling your manhood into question.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

For the record, the reason I hate is not because of the praise in and of itself. It’s just that in college football unlike other sports, the blind praise actually matters. People could write articles all day long that the NL West is weaker than the NL East, but it wouldn’t matter. The Dodgers won’t get passed up for a playoffs spot because writers think the NL West is weak.

For years I couldn’t have cared less about the SEC. I didn’t hate them, didn’t love them, I literally had no opinion. Things changed after Washington, Oregon State, Oregon, USC and Cal got boned because the “old elite” programs needed to get their way. And even then, it wasn’t like the SEC was the culprit (mostly.) Not until Auburn (gasp) got passed up to play in the NC game for USC did things get crazy. The SEC went on a PR offensive which I found objectionable.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If only they could play each other

to settle these things.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that too, lol

But you explain your reasoning, so I was thinking “Well… It’s not Mike”

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Whom

do you think holds the advantage in the CSULA / CSULB football rivalry that no longer exists

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

nice first reply. Long Beach St. owns the battle, 8 wins to 6

by Josie Becker on Dec 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m replying while my cpu will still allow me too!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Would the worst D2 school in the country crush the best HS team?

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Yes. That’s literally men vs. boys.

I remember going back to my high school as a sophomore in college and thinking how small the football players looked.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Would a team of 24 and 25 year old misfits beat the crap out of a bunch of coddled 18 & 19 year olds?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like saying

could Duke’s NC team beat the Clippers. It’s sounds good in theory but it is still men against boys.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

there was a time (not so long ago) when a college all-star team used to play the NFL champion (the last game was in 1976)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember the stars on the helmets

what a stupid game.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

how many times did the college team win?
(at least once)

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Not stupid because they played

just stupid that these kids were the future of their franchises and they were playing a game in which they could easily get career ending injuries in a meaningless game.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, saw that happen
career ended in an exhibition game
boom, no more football for you

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel that way about the Pro Bowl. Football is too violent to have exhibition games.

Name a pro bowl team. have a skills competition in hawaii and call it a day.

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The skill should be

shots and wahine bench presses.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You been working to hard

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Had an end-of-the-year event in Manhattan Beach the last 3 days. I’ll be sure to step up my TBLA contributions.

Anything happen since last week?

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We signed the biggest 2nd base free agent in years

We signed a pitcher
We got new members
Maddz got a new MacBook and is now to good for us
Josie keeps getting writing gigs
Keith hates Michael

Not to much

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Aww too bad

I was really excited for Maddz’s new macbook

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz’s new macbook > my new iPod Touch.

I can’t compete there.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t a shit what Michael says!

He’s taking me to play golf when I come out there.

We will discuss this shit in person…..And I may kill him….

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith is Saiid.

Too many parallels.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith hates Michael

not news.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t forget about tennis ball HR derby!!!

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It will a great time.

I think it’s gonna be cool to live 1,800 miles away and be the only person

that knows what you look like!

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree

it is the one sport where every time you step on the field could have consequences.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Maggette, Park, Brand, McGinnis

against Duke would have been fun.

4 on 5

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT’S WENDY’S?

by delias man on Dec 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I will try them with a Chocolate Frosty

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Never got that fascination.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Are their frostys that good?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If you freeze them it is just like eating a chocolate malt at the Ravine

I love them, but many will not.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they’re awesome. Haven’t had one in awhile, but I will later. thanks.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nuggets are also great

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 1, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

“What were you using before?”

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like artificial potato skins?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Please stop

Nobody likes you.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i suddenly feel like the real pancho

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

spam, troll, inappropriate

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

I’ll watch Survivor when I get home tonight.

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

for some reason I’m rooting for Mike I. partly because Zaytinya blew my mind.

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I was actually kinda disappointed by Zaytinya. The hummus and lamb were out of this world, but we had some meh eggplant and a chicken orzo thing that tasted like something I could have made.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

oh man

yeah the lamb blew me away but just the whole meal made me so happy. those fresh pitas… we had some sundried tomato and cheese dish. and ended the night with some olive oil ice cream.

i went to some other places in DC too and loved them all: Spike’s Good Stuff Eatery, and Brian V’s Volt (ohhhh man that was out of this world)

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The pitas were sooooo good. Oh yeah, had some apricot and greek yogurt that was great too.

Wanted to go to Volt but we only had a day in DC so couldn’t drive out to Frederickson. Making that a priority next time I go out east.

by regfairfield on Dec 1, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

we got lucky

we went to DC because my wife was shooting a wedding out there and the wedding just happened to be like 15 min away from Volt so we went for lunch.

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Does the new season begin tonight?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

yep!

the all-stars edition! check out the power rankings over at http://www.skilletdoux.com/

fuct (fun+fact=fuct): the dude who runs skillet doux is the voice of guybrush from monkey island.

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I missed recording a season as I switched DVRs, and haven’t set it to record new episodes…UNTIL NOW!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I ended up joining mid season, watched the last 6 or so.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

you didnt miss much

it didnt really get any good till the end. it left me wanting, and so i watched Just Deserts, which sucked except for the whole LA thing. Cool seeing them at the same Albertsons i shop at ahha

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Most def

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 1, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory #1

Frank McCourt, seeing his chances of winning the divorce case slip away, approves large contracts to make the sale of the team harder on Jamie. the Dodgers sign Jayson Werth to a 96/6 deal to stick it to the former Mrs. McCourt.

Conspiracy Theory #2: There is no Conspiracy Theory #1.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

I hope #1 comes true…

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I do enjoy spiteful moves

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you enjoy the spiteful move where Jamie banged the help which ended up resulting in the two getting divorced and fighting over your favorite team in court?

by Michael White on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a spiteful comment

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

3115 Members on Dec 1st

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

115 members

3000 meercats.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems like a lot.

Too bad for us only 38 post regularly!

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet we average about 1 comment per member account per day

I see it as a great thing that everyone doesn’t post. If they did, my computer would fucking explode.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Tru dat….

Like mine is doing right now

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

if we had any more regular posters we’d have to start furloughing some of the regulars who don’t add anything to conversations. Meaning I should start getting some work done.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is Lady-n-Blue?

No posts in a week or so?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

she's biding her time

waiting for her perfect moment to strike.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 1, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If each member sent Eric $10

for the work he does here as a Xmas Bonus he could finally get those singing lessons he so badly wants.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric can buy a Jaguar with that.

by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been sending $14.99 to a paypal account every month since January?

WTF?

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

My email address doesn’t begin with SECpoon :_

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was told it was $19.99 per month.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 1, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

every time someone posts a slutty photo of a lady

TBLA gains a member

oooh, unintentional double meaning! nice!

by mintxcore on Dec 1, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

We post tastefull shots

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Just because I don’t know how!

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad to be a “regular”, which I believe is less than 3% of that number.

WHERE YOU AT 3,115! WE WANT YOU LOUD AND PROUD!

by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

1%, you are totally elite

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 1, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

1%

still only puts you in the top 31.

It’s like saying Ryan Theriot is in the top 750 active MLB players.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

by G.Scott on Dec 1, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m definately closer to 3,115 than I am to 1!

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 1, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

No way

just your non-conference strength of comment.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

NPUT

only because we are about to hit 1,000 comments

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/1/1849745/3115-members

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

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