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Matt Kemp, Iron Man

The players with the longest active games played streaks in both the NBA and MLB play in Los Angeles. Derek Fisher of the Lakers has played in 436 straight games, including a league-best 314 consecutive starts. In baseball, the longest active streak belongs to none other than Matt Kemp, who has played in 204 straight contests. It might not be Ripken-esque, but Kemp has played every game since August 19, 2009.

While we got our panties in a bunch over Kemp getting benched last season, the fact is that his 150 outfield starts tied for sixth most in the National League. Kemp played 1,346 innings in the outfield in 2010, a number only topped by Hunter Pence and Chris Young. The Dodgers played 1441 2/3 defensive innings last year, meaning Kemp played 93.4% of the possible innings last year.

Since the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles in 1958, there have only been 26 seasons in which an outfielder played at least 90% of the innings in the field. Kemp has hit that mark in each of the last three seasons, and in 2009 he became just the second L.A. Dodger to lead the NL in outfield innings, joining Brett Butler in 1991. Butler and Kemp each have three seasons of 90% or more; the only three L.A. Dodger outfielders with more seasons are Willie Davis (six seasons), Raul Mondesi (five), and Shawn Green (four).

Green played in the highest percentage of innings of any L.A. Dodger outfielder, playing in 98.7% of defensive innings in 2000, missing just 19 innings that season. Green was quite the iron man, playing in 96.7% of innings between 2000-2003. Kemp has played more innings in the outfield in the last two years than any other National League outfielder, and over the past three years has played 93.0% of all Dodger innings.

Here are the top L.A. Dodger outfield seasons, ranked by percentage of innings played:

Star-divide

Dodgers Outfield Iron Men
Player Year Innings Team Inn Inn %
Shawn Green 2000 1426.0 1445.0 98.7%
Juan Pierre 2007 1416.2 1450.0 97.7%
Raul Mondesi 1994 985.0 1014.0 97.1%
Shawn Green 2001 1407.2 1450.2 97.0%
Brett Butler 1991 1409.0 1458.0 96.6%
Willie Davis 1968 1392.1 1449.1 96.1%
Raul Mondesi 1996 1407.1 1466.1 96.0%
Shawn Green 2003 1397.2 1457.2 95.9%
Matt Kemp 2009 1405.1 1473.1 95.4%
Shawn Green 2002 1388.2 1457.2 95.3%
Raul Mondesi 1997 1390.0 1459.1 95.2%
Raul Mondesi 1999 1379.2 1453.3 95.0%
Willie Davis 1972 1318.0 1403.3 93.9%
Brett Butler 1993 1381.2 1472.2 93.8%
Willie Davis 1971 1354.2 1449.2 93.4%
Matt Kemp 2010 1346.0 1441.2 93.4%
Bill Buckner 1976 1368.2 1470.2 93.1%
Raul Mondesi 1995 1204.2 1295.0 93.0%
Willie Davis 1964 1378.1 1483.2 92.9%
Andre Ethier 2009 1365.1 1473.1 92.7%
Brett Butler 1992 1318.1 1438.0 91.7%
Willie Davis 1966 1333.0 1458.0 91.4%
Willie Davis 1962 1358.0 1488.2 91.2%
Dusty Baker 1980 1336.2 1472.2 90.8%
Matt Kemp 2008 1304.1 1447.1 90.1%
Wally Moon 1959 1271.0 1411.2 90.0%

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are too stunned to write anything

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

I'm not stuned,

I just don’t have anything to contribute.

by Grimjack on Dec 11, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing playing OF is not nearly as strenuous as say, catching every day?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard a rumor that LF is down to Podsednik,Hall and Kearns. Out of those 3 I would pick Hall.

by dodgers4life on Dec 11, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

I would prepare for Tony Gwynn to make several starts.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is fine if your staff goes Greinke, K, Bills, Lily, Hiro

by oshea2002 on Dec 11, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

we have a better chance of: Lee, K, Bills, Lily, Hiro

than that one…

by UC.Clipper on Dec 11, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying we’ll land either, but Greinke is a 5% shot, Lee is 0%

by oshea2002 on Dec 11, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad, worse, and worser

by oshea2002 on Dec 11, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Gurnick adds the Hairston bros. to that list.

by silverwidow on Dec 11, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll miss talking about the LF

position after they sign someone, they should wait until Spring so this can go on for a few more months.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

They should wait until right before the trade deadline to keep the subject alive for even longer!!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

it's a good thing

you didn’t stay home for finals, you would be tempted to go get a Chef Art’s pizza.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

as good as that pizza was, I’m not driving all the way to the west side to go get it. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

improvement?

Out- Manny/Podsednick
IN – Gibbons/Bill Hall

Out – Dewitt/Theriot
In – Uribe

Out – Martin/Ellis
In – Barajas/Navarro

by Joey Joe on Dec 11, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Improvments

1. Jury undecided due to a lack of Hall on the roster.
2. improvement, solid defense less TOOTBLAN and more powah.
3. Undecided.

by Grimjack on Dec 11, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm watching Wicker Man as part of my take home final for my film class

and Christopher Lee is not only wearing the most balling kilt/ruffled blouse I’ve ever seen, but he was also singing. He’s got a very nice bass voice.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

Linkin Park, Wicker Man

next a paper on Spiderman’s main theme, “with great power comes great responsibility.”

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Next on my agenda is to convince this professor to do a course on science fiction and religion.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that a given?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 11, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Would said course

spend at least a week talking about how Orson Scott Card is an asshole?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 11, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

not sure

that’s kind of why I want to take it. Religion’s more than theology, you know. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I

just spent all day talking about how pretty Angels are. oops.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 11, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well you know, a man crush on Jared Weaver isn’t going to develop itself.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 11, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

:)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

no seriously

I really appreciate that you put that picture there. I find that meme to be hilarious.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Count Duku sucks.

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The character yes,

The actor who portrayed him not so much.

by Grimjack on Dec 11, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

well

that actor is now in a dress, dancing up a storm

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

reminds me of

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha

how so?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

badass actor playing a wussy role

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

knew it

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If Boat Trip came out the same year Crash won the best picture award?

I’d be complaining about why didn’t Boat Trip win best picture, along with every other film that came out that year.

Seriously eveyone must have been on drugs when they filled in that ballot, which would explain the bias.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 11, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Crash from 1996

the Cronenberg film. Really twisted eroticism.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 12, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahahaha if only it were that version! It’s the 1973 version, and now I feel compelled to watch the remake even though Nic Cage is in it.

Nicholas Cage, the only man to be CONTINUALLY cast in romantic lead roles without actually being fantasized about by the female audience!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

it doesnt help that hes constantly punching women in the face in this movie

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 11, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm watching this youtube video

and “HOW’D IT GET BURNED?!” is quite possibly the funniest thing I’ve — WTF HE PUNCH THAT CHICK! AND THEN KICKED THAT OTHER ONE?!

And the girls are wearing splicer masks from Bioshock? This movie appears epic, we need to have a TBLA drinking game to it. Every time Nic Cage punches a chick, take a shot.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It's no Tim McCarver drinking game

every time Tim McCarver says something completely fucking stupid take a shot.

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Playing the very similar Mike Goldberg drinking game in an hour.

Though I’m using drinks instead of shots since I value life.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Your amazing mid-black out text from last night says that last statement is bullshit

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That was from 7 drinks, not 30.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

But basically I think we need to play Guitar Hero/Rock Band while I’m back in town.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Having two people that can sing in my apartment would be scary.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sing?

I’m gonna rock the fuck out on the drums! What do you mean, sing?

But basically I think that will probably be the safest bet for our drinking since it will not require cars.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. If I’m gonna spend 1000 bucks on Rock Band, I’m gonna use it dammit.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll help!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The Neil LaBute/ Nic Cage remake is TERRIBLE

Only watch it with a side of Rifftrax or to just be aghast at something that went so wrong. And to appreciate the creepy original.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that movie definitely gave me the heebie jeebies…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

but seriously

why did Nic Cage punch/kick people?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

pissed off at having to be Nic Cage

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

true

his fivehead rivals Rihanna’s

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

supposedly the editor suffered from crippling alchoholism and he barely did the work he was supposed to do, so thats one reason why it sucks.. the director on the other hand…

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 11, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, when it comes to the point that you have someone screaming “OH GOD, NOT THE BEES! NOT THE BEES!” then your problems might have been there from the start.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish that was my film class.

Instead my final is on the film Zodiac where I have to talk about; comparsion to modern day terrorism (Al Queda), media crime fighting, post 9/11 anti-government sentiment, reactive policing compared to community oriented policing, comparisons to Dirty Harry and All the President’s Men, and development history in relation to studio structure and genre history. It’s also 10,000 words long.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 11, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that sounds like a complicated

assignment, if not downright insane or convoluted at least. But interesting, too. I really, really think highly of Fincher’s Zodiac.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

cool assignment

You could mention “The Wire.” That would be fun.

by kinbote on Dec 11, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

ha

At orientation and at our welcome night, the UMD law people tried to reassure us that Baltimore is not like The Wire.

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 11, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

here's my prompt!

“Is contact with otherness an appropriate way to think of the religious, its practice and/or it’s study? Otherwise put, are we always already interpellated in the tension between, in Smith’s terms, “situational incongruity” and “rectification” or, in Camus’s terms, a world that resists and a will to meaning – and is that the religious?"

So basically I have to look at Wicker Man and Catholics (aka Conflict) with Martin Sheen and refer back to the cult in Wicker Man or the should-be-cult in Catholicism and use it to talk about the Other.

I have no idea how this is going to work. Best of luck on your final!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

also

we had to watch Irreversible. Never again.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

It is such a lovely film.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Dec 12, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Har har har.

I actually thought it was a well made film but there are certain things about it that I don’t think I could stomach the second time around.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Only a few minutes left til

Cam Newton and his dad are handed the Heisman Trophy.

The excitement is palpable.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

I’m watching the final moments of The Good Guys instead.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The Angels may have matched Boston’s offer for Carl Crawford, according to the LA Times, but Crawford chose Boston.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

plaschke wuz right

oh why god why have you forsaken los angeles

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 11, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

because godless hacks like Plaschke live here, I think that’s in Leviticus somewhere; I should know, I’m a scholar.

/divschool
/finalsmakemecrazy

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 11, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It's actually...

“Revelation” not “Revelations”. When was the last time Plaschke or Simmers wrote a positive article about the Dodgers? If they aren’t bagging on the team, they are bagging on the stadium. SO sick of those two guys.

by markj6 on Dec 11, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be damned.

All this time I thought it was revelations

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 11, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to write this

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 12, 2010 2:41 AM PST up reply actions  

actually

isn’t it the Apocalypse of John?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Carl Crawford is a good man.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 11, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Molly Knight's chat with ESPNLA

is now up online
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?autoplay=1&callsign=KSPNAM&id=5909285

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Tweet re Gibbons
dylanohernandez
Heard this: Gibbons’ one-year $650k deal with the #Dodgers is guaranteed for only $400k. Gibbons can earn $150k in incentives based on PAs.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

400+150=550

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 11, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah that sounded like a math-fail. He updated:
For clarification: Gibbons can earn as much as $800k — $650k in salary (of which $400k is guaranteed) and an extra $150k in incentives.

though that still sounds confusing. 650 + 150 = 800, but how does he get to 650 from 400?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The other $250,000 is almost certainly guaranteed only if Gibbons makes the team out of spring training.

The $150,000 incentives means Gibbons can earn up to $800,000 total.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Dylan tweeted the incentives too

$50,000 for 300pa
$50,000 for 400pa
$50,000 for 500pa

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

figured it was plate appearances, just was confusing. Or I was confused. One or the other.

I will be stunned if he reaches the 500 pa barrier…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 11, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got back

Told my pro-Koshek buddy “I want to see GSP beat him up for five rounds.” Dominating performance. Top five athlete in world?

by kinbote on Dec 11, 2010 10:24 PM PST reply actions  

I think so. Koscheck probably had a better chance of beating GSP than anyone else and Koscheck wasn’t even in there for a second.

I would also like to thank anyone who thought Charles Olivera was an elite fighter because he beat Efrain Escudaro, you made me a ton of money.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Koscheck's eye

might have been the ugliest I’ve seen in MMA.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Either him or Marcus Davis from a few events ago.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Honest question

What does it mean if Castro makes the team?

by kinbote on Dec 11, 2010 10:42 PM PST reply actions  

It means the bench will be even worse, and will mean Hu gets placed on waivers, then, if he clears, likely will be outrighted.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think there is much of a difference, but there is also almost literally no reason Juan Castro should be on a major league roster. My point is more than if Juan Castro takes a spot, it grabs a spot that could be used on an actual major league player.

With Furcal, Uribe, and Carroll on the roster, that is three shortstops on the roster, which means there is really no need to keep a defensive shortstop, and that spot could be used on an actual hitter instead.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 11, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell

would be okay, though he would be strictly a pinch hitter 9 out of 10 games

by bhsportsguy on Dec 11, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna ask why do we need 4 guys that can play 2B/SS….

Weak Sauce

by keithc13 on Dec 12, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Hu isn’t the 38 SS whose only asset is defense, but isn’t that great of a defensive shortstop anyway.

by Tripon on Dec 11, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

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The Dodgers were 5 1/2 games out of first at the trading deadline; they finished the season 12 games back.

This past week, Times reporters have been gushing about Colletti’s off-season work, marveling at his ability to find so many warm bodies while the McCourts continue bickering.

It’s a good bet that when the McCourts leave, Colletti will be the only sad guy in town, his cover gone.

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“I’m not surprised by your reaction,” says Colletti, the former Philadelphia sportswriter. “That’s what you do. I’d be surprised if you liked any of this.”

Just to be clear here, I think the Dodgers are stockpiling garbage when they should be acting more like one of the game’s top franchises located in one of the country’s top cities.

I think Dodgers fans have come to accept a lower standard of player when it comes to their team, management counting on it and knowing Dodgers fans will keep buying tickets.

“The payroll will be higher this year than last year,” says Colletti. “It should be a better team this year.”

The Dodgers will point to a $110-million payroll this season, but that includes deferred money for players such as Manny Ramirez.

As for players on the field, Colletti says the Dodgers were in the mid-80s last season, and will be in the mid-90s this season. So shouldn’t Colletti be dismissed immediately if this is the best he could do with the extra money?

Why can’t the Dodgers act more like the Red Sox and Yankees when it comes to improving their teams?

“We don’t think it’s prudent to sign players to six- and seven-year contracts and will not do so,” Colletti says.

It has nothing to do with money, Colletti says, the Dodgers apparently believing you don’t need Cliff Lee if you can get Padilla, Lilly and Garland.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/la-sp-simers-20101212,0,1866102.column?page=2&utm_medium=feed&track=rss&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20latimes%2Fsports%2Fbaseball%2Fmlb%20%28L.A.%20Times%20-%20Baseball%20News%29&utm_source=feedburner

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 12:57 AM PST reply actions  

Sadly, nothing untrue. It is what it is.

by oshea2002 on Dec 12, 2010 1:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I stopped reading after seeing him use pitchers’ win-loss records as “analysis.”

by silverwidow on Dec 12, 2010 4:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't disagree

about 6 and 7 year contracts.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

i see why he's angry

but you really wanna give a speedster 140 million, give another Zito-like contract to an OF or give a 32 year old 7 years, as a pitcher?

I get they dont like the crappy signings. Neither do we. But Crawford, Werth, and Lee, given what they got on the market, arent the answer either IMO

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 12, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

the funny thing its

would Crawford have gotten that much from the Red Sox if Werth hadn’t gotten as much as he did from the Nats?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

"Nothing Untrue?"

At least a whole lot of stupid, then.

(1) “One of the country’s top cities” doesn’t even have an NFL team, so LA, get off the high horse.

(2) “Why can’t the Dodgers act more like the Red Sox and Yankees when it comes to improving their teams?” Because the Dodgers have limited revenue compared to the Yankees and Red Sox. Nor does it help that the owner of the Dodgers bought the team almost entirely through debt financing and that debt is its own kind of burden.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 12, 2010 4:39 AM PST reply actions  

No NFL team doesn't matter to me

as a lifetime resident of Los Angeles, having an NFL franchise is not a defining point for me when determining whether or not this is a great city.

This is TJ’s opinion, LA has no high horse to get on or off on.

The interesting point is that while the Dodgers (and Angels) for the most part avoid the longer term deals, both teams have done their share of spending at least until the last few years.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I Think The "High Horse" Comment Applies...

…to everyone I have ever seen write a variation on “This is Los Angeles, not Pittsburgh/Kansas City etc…” and that is an awful lot of people. Thankfully not the people who usually post here or at Dodger Thoughts, but I have always believed that the opinions one sees at Dodgers.com or the LAT are more representative of the common Dodger fan.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 12, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the Dodgers have limited revenue compared to the Yankees and Red Sox.

I’d like to look at population stuff, but the Red Sox are the only team in New England — that includes Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Maine, Vermont…maybe Connecticut but I would argue those people are probably Yankees fans given their proximity to NYC.

The Dodgers get kind of screwed in that there are a bunch of baseball teams in California and therefore don’t have everyone in the state (or even in the surrounding area) rooting for the Dodgers.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I find it amusing that a Canadian thinks that the one thing that would make L.A. a ‘top city’ is a NFL team.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyway, getting a NFL team is Los Angeles’ White Whale. It would have happened already if the NFL was serious about it.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Tripon , You Have Misunderstood...

My point is that sports has NOTHING to do with “top city” status. It is Simers who is assuming such a relationship exists or should exist. By Simers’ own way of thinking, LA can’t be a top city because it doesn’t even have an NFL team, let alone a crappy NFL team.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 12, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers are screwed because of the owner

… and the bone headed GM’s we’ve had since Al Campanis stuck his foot in his mouth

by Freddy V on Dec 12, 2010 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Simers

I still think that when TJ Simers isn’t a fan of something, Dodgers are probably doing something right. He probably just woke up from his curmudgeonly nap long enough to see they hadn’t signed Certified Ace™ Cliff Lee and then dribbled out his column and fell back asleep.

Whoop-de-doo.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

He’s right about the offense, but his “analysis” of the pitching is just dumb.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes and yes.

Either way he’s still a “Aren’t I a funny, truth-telling curmudgeon?” guy I wish would stop writing and go back to sleep.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

We’re gonna need a bigger wood chipper.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Hah!

Eek.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ya, I’ll catch your shark for ya, you betcha. You’ll be wantin’ the head, the tail, the fin, the whole gosh-darn thing, ya?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Only because I ran out of things to say about Hal Lanier.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And that, kids, is why you should always wear sunscreen.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Cut the shit

Just give us more Swen Nater. (T-shirt poll closed?)

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

so you’re saying you’d waste your vote on Nater? :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

George Sherrill called

to say Lanier’s brim is too flat.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Chad Cordero has the worst brim I’ve seen.

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Love it!

I’d watch that.

“Oh dear, that shark is a biggun, dontcha know?”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’d be nice to have a Certified Ace™…oh wait…don’t we have that in the making…with Kershaw?

Real talk, though: if we had Cliff Lee, Kershaw, and Billz…that’d be nice…but I’d rather have a solid rotation of Kid K/Billz/Kuroda/Lilly/Garland&Padilla than whatever fun stuff we’d get with the last two spots, like the return of the Ortizii

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

You're preaching to the choir, but yes.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

Look at his stats. Is he worth what the Yanks/Texas are offering?
Kershaw every bit as good and probably better.

by Freddy V on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we all agree here that Lee's not worth what he'll be paid and

that Kershaw’s an ace.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

You do realize that the Ortizii are now an endangered species, don’t you?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Go go raiders

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

TB is getting murdered on defense by Ryan Torain. I didn’t play him b/c of the long injury layoff. Killing me right now.

by silverwidow on Dec 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

I really want TB to succeed

if not just because they drafted DTs with their first two picks

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Torain's injury history

is frustrating because when healthy I felt like he’d be a good back. He was with the Broncos in Shanahan’s last season but just continued to have health problems.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

So

he is Portis 2.0?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Well he may never even have the career Portis has had

whatever that’s saying. But yeah in a sense… Portis at least was healthy iirc, in his first few seasons in Denver. Torain was even injury prone in college.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Roh roh

Aaron Rodgers has been KO’ed by the Lions.

by silverwidow on Dec 12, 2010 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

So how is Ryan Theriot better than Brendan RYan again?

Neither much of a hitter, maybe Theriot’s slightly better there. While Ryan’s a much better fielder. Why are Cards choosing Theriot over Ryan (who they are shopping)? Again, Ryan isn’t much of a hitter but neither is Theriot really…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

off the top of my head — is he coming up on FA soon? Maybe they want a return for a player they know isn’t going to return…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan is cheaper and further away from FA than TOOTBLAN

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Then I have no idea. I miss DeWitt. /pout

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I really like the name Ryan

I don’t like Brendan Ryan’s “don’t touch kids” mustache though.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they have a moustache quota

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan’s a good name, comes from rex, means little king. So ryan’s are like royalty or whatever

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

So basically it's because Tony LaRussa and company are kind of

idiotic mysterious.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

They’re trying to corner the market on 2nd basemen?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Ryan

Now a Mariner, for minor league pitcher Maikel Cleto, per Greg Johns of MLB.com

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, the Twins lost out

or maybe lost interest.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 12, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm. This makes me happy that Nashville is only expected to get like, 2 inches of snow tonight.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

white stuff. cold. wet. I saw pictures of it once.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a word-based synchronous stream cipher, but that’s not important right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNOW

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Freud’s favorite thing?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

What? No, I was referring to his coke habit, but that’s not that important right now.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

This just in

Darren McFadden is awesome.

That is all.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

amazing what an offensive line and a stable offensive scheme can do.

oh, and not having a cancer under center.

side note: how come you rarely hear white players called cancers?

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

because they’re gritty?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

right.

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Because there aren’t many white players in the NBA, where Kevin Garnett resides?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that this connection was made.

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Not fast enough

to play WR?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

this just in

fucking raiders

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

bunch of bums

some things never change

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

well they’ve got the jump on the Chargers for the division, so of course this is the year the Chiefs decided to be good

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Raiders

raiders never change. They still get another shot at the chiefs though, so they still could pull it out.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

they’ll need some help from the Chargers today, and we’ve been about as reliable as a ten buck tow truck

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Raiders of the Lost Back Arch

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers are playing right now during early football. They can sleepwalk through a game better than anybody.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

The Nets and Raptors, kings of the early Sunday starts in the NBA

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in

I’m watching the snow float by the window next to my desk. I should be getting work done, but that’s not that important right now.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

I love snow

Have experienced it maybe five times total in my life.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Santa’s Village once as a kid, that was the only time I’ve ever seen snow.

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Eric Snow

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

^

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

How about Jon Snow?!

Total badass, amirite?

/crickets

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Charlie Snow > JT Snow

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Charlie had a higher OPS anyway

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/snowch01.shtml

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure he does

I was making a reference to my signature. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually have zero ideas as to the meaning of your signature.

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That fact that your signature isn’t “Do you have it?” makes me sad

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha oh guts. Mike O’Malley, you crazy motherfucker

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So for our next game, we’re gonna put a bunch of kids on bungee chords, then throw rocks at them. Go!

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Josie

more a “Legends of the Hidden Temple” fan. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Boom

new sig that is too long for me to keep

Players will start at the sound of my whistle. Each player has an identical side of the mountain to climb and may not cross into another player's path. Now, during their climb each player must light up each of seven targets located on their side of the crag. The first player to light up all of their targets, including the final one at the peak of the crag, will take First Place points. Mike?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i knew I forgot something

Time's fun when you're having flies.

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon Snow is a character in the book that the signature comes from. I knew hardly anyone (aside from Mr. F and Grimjack) would know what it meant, so that’s why I included “/crickets”

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

How close to Wrightwood do you live?

by Xeifrank on Dec 12, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Shannon Brown just yelled “FOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUULLLLLLL” like a child, and did not get called for a T.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Not that this doesn’t happen all the time from more players, but it appears there are some well-placed microphonees in New Jersey. Lots of court chatter on the air today.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA

I’m Commander Shepard and this is my favorite blog on the citadel

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, life question

Sunday afternoon football is approaching. Do you a) order wings from the Wingstop by your house and watch the game on your 45’ TV or b) drive to the Buffalo Wild Wings two towns over to watch the game and eat wings in public, even though you don’t have anyone to go with?

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

go to BWW and sit next to a guy rooting for the same team as you and get him to buy you beer

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

this

you never know who you’re going to meet

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz with the tie breaker, unless E has a swing vote comin…

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Buffalo Wild Wings is better than Wingstop, and you can watch other games while getting bored with SD murdering the Chiefs.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

but but but

she has a 45 inch tv and wingstop wings are better!

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

but cute company >>>>>>> 45 inch TV.

Cos you can always bring them back to where the 45 inch TV is, ya dig?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

except I live with my parents so that’s right out. However it’s still 2-1, so y’all take care of the house while I’m gone, last one out start the dishwasher.

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

oh.

yeah, that will make things difficult. That’s why I have a room on the other side of the house!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I can understand that

I tend to spend my sundays as a hermit, venturing out into the sun only in dire circumstances, though my need for human interaction sometimes overrides my need to just get the fuck away from everyone sometimes.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

FOUND HIM

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

I know I’ve posted that on here at some point. Thats only me on sundays where I don’t go mountain bikings…. so right now all of them.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

wingstop wings are better

False statement, unless only counting garlic parmesan.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I like me a good BWW Caribbean Jerk sauce.

Also: Asian Zing and Medium.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there a person out there

who doesn’t like Asian Zing?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know who he is

but I don’t like him already

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Kilgore

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm probably wrong

its actually been a while since I’ve been to wingstop, but yeah their garlic parmesan is a billionty times better. They don’t have asian zing or mango hab though

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I have never been to a BWW or a Wingstop.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wing Stop = Weak sauce (The one in Hollywood)

Went there to pick up a boat load for a show I was going to, I found the wings tasty but small. Service was piss poor. I have yet to go to BWW, but if you are in the Hollywood area and are looking for big meaty wings and 25-30 BEERS on tap I recomend Big Wangs.

by Grimjack on Dec 12, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

the name of the establishment is named “Big Wangs”?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I must go to this establishment.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The beer comes in:

Pints
Stiens (SP?)
pitcher
and
Towers
There is a wheel of beer.

by Grimjack on Dec 12, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

a wheel? of beer?

SIGN ME UP

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

home

unless you have another game you want to watch

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

home

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

I hate Jason Campbell.

Even though he is 97 times better than Mr. Purple Drink.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Even though he is 97 times better than Mr. Purple Driank.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It has three ingredients: water, sugar, and purple.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Raiders got bailed out by a ridiculous helmet-to-helmet penalty that negated a fumble recovery TD by Jags.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

that was a huge break for them… kept them in the game.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Dec 12, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

eh

I blame the line. He got smooshed

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He almost literally has no idea what to do out there.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Who let Al Davis on the field?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Cambell

looks to me, to be really scared of getting hit. I know two Raider fans who agree.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He got David Carr'd

in Washington?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Raider quarterbacks = Xeifrank’s theory of middle relievers.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

what’s Xeifrank’s theory?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhh

sounds sound to me!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Redskins blow the extra point that would have tied the game. Unbelievable.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

I believe it

I was there when they blew multiple kicks against the texans

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Lions

beat the Aaron Rodgers-less Packers

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

wow

amazing run

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

Holy shit McFadden again.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

Well, that was fun for the few seconds that it lasted.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

Sure that TD was horrible, but at least it was quick as shit. Now the Raiders actually have time left.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Jax secondary sucks

so yeah, unleash the track team wrs

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

draw time

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

nm

no time for that

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of no time

CBS is about to switch to SD/KC. Boooo.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously lame

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

and they left IN THE MIDDLE OF A PLAY…to GO TO A COMMERCIAL.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well the play ended in the middle of the field. I would guess the Raiders lost.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

MJD...

probably should have stopped short of scoring, but he probably selfishly wanted 100 yards and a td.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Dec 12, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That was some shitty timing.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

It’s probably best I didn’t see the end of that play.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not officially over

but the Raiders are done.

I’m rooting for the Chiefs now to eliminate the Chargers today.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

This is gonna get bumpy

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Snow covered field in Chicago.

by Alex41592 on Dec 12, 2010 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn’t know, sadly. Not at BWW today.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Denver

hits a carom shot and its 3-0 Denver

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Huge win by the Jags...

the matchup really favored them, but the Raiders wisely relied on the pass game and Mcfadden going insane certainly helped…

but thankfully they were able to come back for the win.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Dec 12, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Juan Castro had 4 at bats for us last year, the hell?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

I stopped questioning the signing of Juan Castro when Ned signed him the 2nd time.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly don’t remember him being on the team.

Also fun Juan Castro fact: he’s never had a positive WAR in a season with more than 5 PA, yet he’s had a 18 year career. Life is unfair.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know how you really can measure the bit players with WAR. The middle relievers and the little used bench players need their own system, like Crap above replacement, or CAR.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

DFUTB

Didn’t Fuck Up That Badlly

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s amazing that he couldn’t even small sample size his way to a good defensive season and WAR like .2. Juan Castro might be the worst baseball player of all time.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, can someone with Play Index run a search on the worst career WAR?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news, Juan Castro isn’t the worst player of all time!

He’s the third worst.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Spotted Horse cannot be killed by a bullet

and Juan Castro cannot be stopped by a DFA

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyway, its just a minor league deal, and Torre isn’t the manager anymore.

I doubt Don Mattingly has such a hard on for crappy gritty players like Torre did.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a 100 percent chance Castro is the useless utility guy next year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think the useless guy is Hu this year. The team isn’t going to trade for another middling reliever, and that’s pretty much his value right now.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Reg

if that is the choice.

Also, I think everyone in baseball likes players like Castro. They are a good example to point out to your younger players as how to carry yourself and probably don’t cause many problems in the clubhouse.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Castro Can Be Sent To The Minors....

Hu cannot. That is the sort of thing that has weighed heavily on Dodger roster decisions in the past. We are just used to seeing the younger player in the position of the player who can be sent down.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 12, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Not exactly true. Dodgers traded Dwleyn Young for Eric Krebs for instance.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Hu can be outrighted when he clears waivers

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Juan Castro

has a good reputation and brings intangibles that cannot be measured by statistics.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

it can’t just be true?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It might be true.

But then you can get the value of Castro’s intangibles if you make him a coach like Mark Sweeney.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tripon is going all Tripon again.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh. Explain. I just don’t think the team would pull another Garret Anderson situation after doing it in 2010.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It's true

or at least that is what I am guessing.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm of the opinion

that intangibles should be like the icing off the cake. its the bonus, it shouldn’t be the reason to be making a decision.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

so then Ned

is one of those people who likes to eat the icing out of the can?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's put it this way

You have a known value with Castro. If we are only talking about Hu, you have a player that basically has been on a downward or stagnant trend since 2008.

So, if you are making a choice of who the sit on your bench if both are healthy in March 2011 and its between Hu and Castro, that choice will be Castro.

Now, given that there are 3 guys already on the roster that can play short, 2 of them can play second and 3 can play third, Castro and Hu’s value might not be as great versus a right-hand hitter corner back up like Mitchell.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

So

The chargers are murderizing the chiefs. Hahahahahahaha Raiders fans ahahahahahaha. Beat the Chargers twice, and still fall below them in the division.

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I started watching that game, saw the Chargers score easily on the first drive, and am now about to take a nap while watching Indiana Jones Last Crusade.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Dorks, the both of you

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m more dweeb than dork.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

We should get together as we both watch the playoffs from home.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

She’d have to go now to see you, since public transportation to where you live is probably limited to caravan.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Right?

I might be able to hitch hike, but if I’m gonna be murdered I’d rather it be in civilization, I’m too cute to be eaten by buzzards

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You sayin the Chargers can’t sweep the 49ers, Browns, and Broncos?

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

And you expect the Chiefs to lose the rest of the games too? Chiefs still have a one game lead over the Chargers.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is why the Wild Card was invented

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I got a bridge to sell to you if you think the Chargers will get a wild card spot.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So

The chargers are murderizing the chiefs. Hahahahahahaha Raiders fans ahahahahahaha. Beat the Chargers twice, and still fall below them in the division.

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I started watching that game, saw the Chargers score easily on the first drive, and am now about to take a nap while watching Indiana Jones Last Crusade.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Dorks, the — you know, I’m not going to go there

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m more geek than dork.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were more of a dweeb?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

it depends on the day. I believe the order of operations is nerd>dork>geek>dweeb

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a little bit country, and I’m a little bit rock and roll

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Still can’t shake that country thing, huh?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I reckon it’s not so bad, plenty of open sky and real down to earth folk.

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 2:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Where’s Loretta Lynn when you really need her?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

On a tour promoting the re-release of her memoir and the new release of the Lynn tribute album. Why do you ask?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Just so Josie can work on her twang!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 12, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Juan Castro is

second to Doug Flynn

Just so you know, 500 games played, 1920-2010 and no pitchers.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

No Bill Bergen?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, missed the 1920 part.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Any list that has Hal Lanier — who, If I’m not mistaken, Bill James has called the worst hitter ever to have a 1,000-game career — is not a good list.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I might want to write more about this, since Juan Castro is becoming really fascinating to me. Even a guy like Doug Flynn hit .270 a couple years and has a Gold Glove. Juan Castro has never had a season you could even call superficially good, yet he keeps getting work year after year. I don’t think anyone has done anything close to this.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I had the NBJHA handy so I found the comment on Lanier. It is in the middle of the comment on Bill Mazeroski.

“Lanier was the weakest hitter ever to play 1,000 games in the major leagues (except pitchers), but was such a good second baseman that they moved him to shortstop after a couple of years.”

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

One more note on Lanier’s defense. Among players who played 3,000 or more innings at second base, no one ranks as a better defender at the position than Lanier (6.38 Win Shares per 1,000 defensive innings).

  1. on the list (with many, many more innings) is Mazeroski. Maz has more than 10,000 defensive innings at the position.
  1. on the 3,000-inning-minimum list would be none other than Jody Reed.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Pound fail

The first 1 should say Number 2. The second 1 should say Number 3.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That last B was a typo

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

So at least Lanier has that going for him. Castro has a reputation for good defense, but I’ve never heard him being called an elite defensive player.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Just because I can’t let the opportunity go by without linking to another Dave Frishberg song…

Lanier is the son of Max Lanier, who gets a name drop in Frishberg’s great baseball song, Van Lingle Mungo.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 12, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

he keeps getting work year after year. I don’t think anyone has done anything close to this.

Enrique Iglesias? Dan Dierdorf? I got it, Martin Lawrence…no, Tim Allen!

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 12, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Eddy Murphy after the 80’s. He has to have the record of most flops and getting paid like an A-Lister.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

he got some award nominations after Dream Girls, but point taken. Another good one: Michael Bay.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 12, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

hey

ivdown LOVES michael bay! ;D

by mintxcore on Dec 12, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Nicolas Cage

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

has done good work in the past though

Wild at Heart, Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona, Bringing Out the Dead…he was in Valley Girl too! Oh, Adaptation of course, and I hear the Bad Lieutenant remake was really good. He’s worked with some great directors, but he’s also OD’ed on the generic action shit.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 12, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he's there

at the top if you go all the way back to 1901

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Primarily

middle infielders and catchers

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This time next year is going to be weird when there is no NBA and no NFL.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

Both leagues will likely be in lockout

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And as Josie will point out, MLS.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

MLS will be long done this time next year, unless we switch to an international calendar in the next few months

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, I thought that was a joke. It’s for real going to happen?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe by this time in 2011 both leagues will be playing, but both leagues are still pretty far off to get new agreements. Wouldn’t be surprised to see delayed openings of each league.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If the NFL is out until now

I think the Lingerie Bowl will make a comeback.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

apparently there’s a lingerie football league now, I saw a sign off the 110

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the caption via tweet on this photo

“HOW WAS YOUR TRIP? Have a nice fall!” – via @bubbaprog

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

it would be nice if

we can stop watching this boring Chargers game and switch to the NYJ/MIA :\

by mintxcore on Dec 12, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously. both games out here are dogs. And here I am all liquored up to enjoy them.

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching crazy endings

or whatever it’s called on MLB Network, and the Angels game (Martin out at 2B before Reed Johnson scored) came on again. One thing I didn’t notice at the time: that play was another notch in the “Juan Rivera doesn’t dive” belt.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

I wish I got MLB Network.

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I have it and love it, but I wish I had NBA TV too. I have MLB and NHL networks, but no NBA and NFL.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I like NFL Network for TNF. I don’t think I have the others.

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh, they just showed the Nate McLouth walk-off HR when all the Braves fled the dugout. So awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He refused to hit another one all year in protest

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in

Guinness goes down easy.

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

Even I get that Arthur reference . . .

by kinbote on Dec 12, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s delightful. I will be drinking many of them when I get back to Los Angeles.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Guinness is the best on a cold day, with a bowl of chili

by Josie Becker on Dec 12, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Only thing good on a cold day is a warm body.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit, I knew I was missing something. Cat obsessed with shadows doesn’t really fit the bill.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Jets

use their last time out, 1:36 left down by 4

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

Rememeber when Carson Palmer was good?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 12, 2010 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

Yes. Long, long time ago.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

At least

all Matt Cassell had was appendectomy this week

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

better than getting torn a new one :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching Jets fans implode on Twitter is kind of fun.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 4:23 PM PST reply actions  

Not a good week for the Jets

Start off tied for the best record in NFL and with tiebreaker over New England. Drop two division games to fall 2 games back with 3 to go, they still have a 2 game lead with 3 to go to clinch W/C but will have games at Pittsburgh and Chicago before closing out at home against the Bills.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

I always laugh when I see Valley View Casino patrons bragging about their loose slots.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 12, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

The thing that makes me chuckle is when they proclaim that the first lobster buffet is free.

by Tripon on Dec 12, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The run a ton of commercials down in San Diego, naturally, and many of them a few years ago featured Padres’ announcer Mark Grant eating a ton at the buffet.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone seen The Tourist? I know it’s bad, but is it that bad?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

Angelina Jolie and Johnny Depp.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 12, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, right

I’m waiting for that to hit the discount theater.

I confused it with The American, apparently.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I was waiting for it as a rental, so let me know if it’s OK. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 12, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Scott Wolf of the Daily News is repetitive

but he keeps his eye up north.

The Six Million Dollar Man
By Scott Wolf on December 12, 2010 4:55 PM

49ers 40, Caesarhawks 21. That still works out $1 million per victory. But don’t think he isn’t laughing at the thought if he were at USC, he would be dealing with probation and less talent than in his glory days.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 12, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

I wore sweats to the library today

and I’m totally not sorry.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 12, 2010 6:50 PM PST reply actions  

Maddz

FTW

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 12, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

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