Bill Hall starting LF for the Dodgers? Maybe not so crazy an idea after all
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:27 AM PST
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PrintIt has been reported that the Dodgers are in discussions with Billy Hall to become the Dodgers everyday LF. At first blush this seemed like a crazy idea to me, so I hit the books to see if this was as crazy as it sounded. Bill Hall had a monster 2006 season as a Brewer infielder, which had followed a very good 2005 season. At only 27 years old entering the 2007 season he appeared to be one of the better young power hitters in the game. The Brewers moved him to CF, and his career went South as fast as Russell Martins had. By 2009 he was a bit player only able to gather 139 plate appearances for the offensively strapped Seattle Mariners. His career looked done.
Luck however plays a huge role in everyone's career, and for Bill Hall he luckily ended up a Red Sox. Not because of Fenway Park but because for a point of time in 2010 the whole Red Sox Outfield was hurt so Bill Hall got plenty of playing time, and like Juan Uribe in 2009, rebuilt his skills to the point he is trying to became a full time player again. His home/road splits suggest his resurgence was not just a Fenway Park mirage. However his LH/RH splits threw me for a loop as I totally expected him to have mashed LHP, and struggle against RHP which would have been the basis for my argument against making him a full time left fielder. I was wrong.
Eric noted the other day the bizarre splits of Carlos Quentin against RHP / LHP. As I looked at other names that we would like the Dodgers to kick the tires on I found that Quentin does not stand alone in 2010, both Ryan Ludwick and Bill Hall also had strange splits against RHP.
Normally, or at least what I thought was normal is that right handed hitters pummel LHP, and try to hold their own against RHP, but all of these guys hit RHP much better then LHP. So while we might be thinking of a platoon for Bill Hall, maybe Ned is correct in looking at him as a full time LF. Or at least against RHP anyway.
Check this out:
| Name | Overall OPS | OPS RHP/AB | OPS LHP/AB |
| Hall | 0.772 | .841/219 | .680/163 |
| Ludwick | 0.743 | .800/387 | .609/164 |
| Quentin | 0.821 | .838/393 | .764/134 |
When I heard we might be looking at Bill Hall as the everyday Left Fielder I said why? However now I'm even more confused? Did LHP get so much better in the 2010 that right handed hitters are now at the mercy of the Lee's, Kershaws, Hamels, Thorntons, Kuo's? Quick and dirty the answer is no, in 2010 26 Left handed pitchers who pitched at least 50 innings had an ERA+ over 120, in 2009 it was 35.
Just Small Sample Size for 2010? Maybe, but this has whetted my curiosity. Might delve more into this but with the contract talks for Billy Hall intensifying I just thought this was interesting. For his career he still has hit LHP at a much higher clip then RHP so I'm inclined to think this was a fluke, if the Dodgers are going to make him our LF, they better hope it was not.
On the optimistic side, if Bill Hall can retain the gains he made against RHP, while getting back the skills he once owned against LHP, they just might have a legitimate left fielder. At least one who is better then Podboy. Hall was once one of may favorite players while smacking home runs for the Brewers, the odds are long that he can ever be that player again, but after watching what Jose Baustista has done, I no longer discount anything, and I mean anything.
Oh, one other thing. Bill Hall struck out 104 times in 382 plate appearances, with 50 of those strike outs coming against LHP in only 163 plate appearances.
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I guess what I was watching yesterday was something different then.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Was it hosted by someone with an untucked shirt under their jacket?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
wow
do not remember. It was a guy. 4+1 was #18 and Joe Carter was the winner. I think Gibson was 4 or 5.
What do you expect
from people whose memory of baseball only goes back 10 years?
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
The other two of those type shows that I can remember
Top trades, and something else were hosted by Matt Vasgersian and Greg Amsinger (who has a voice that I hate), respectively, and in both cases, the hosts were informally walking around with an untucked shirt.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
All I heard was
“I’m Delias Man, and I don’t like attractive women.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Your an idiot
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
YOU'RE not YOUR
If you’re going to try to insult somebody, at least use proper grammar…..or better yet, don’t say anything.
by Montana_Dodger on Dec 13, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
taking one for the team?
or did he just successfully troll you?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
GFY
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh come on
you have to be a little impressed. It took his Montana dial-up a full day to submit that comment. It may not have even been directed at you.
Do, do, do you have it?
although to be fair
“No, you’re an idiot!” would have been funnier
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No kidding...
I started writing that when the Dodgers signed Jason Schmidt……THAT’S how long it took….sheesh
by Montana_Dodger on Dec 29, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Uh. Montana, let’s chalk this up to being a troll, or not knowing the good nature of this board. No one was insulting Delias
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I am also not a Hazel Mae fan
But I approve of attempts to resuscitate the name Hazel.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Hazel Mae
is a great name, I wonder how long they took to come up with it in the agents office.
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She does have
pretty nice gams. (I wanted to say “gams”.) If she has a different real name, I can’t find it on the internet, and you’d think it be easy to find if “Hazel Mae” is just a stage name. Funny, I always assumed they were her given first and middle names.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
not a fan of hers
but the age comment was beneath you.
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At our age
I find that I can find women from their 20s to their 50s attractive, which makes people watching all the more enjoyable.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Psh
I can do that at my age too.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Dude, this is your second comment ever
So let’s chalk this up to inexperience, but 1) delias man and Phil have met in person and are on friendly terms, 2) Phil’s grammar is known quantity of below average. His GAR is negative, and 3) trolling one of the writers here is a poor course of action.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Here I was
assuming phil misspelled it on purpose.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
DeliaMan and I have met (true), other then sharing one beer together we are not on friendly terms, . He hates Hipsters, I work for a Hipster Lobbying firm. I believe he’s a closet Hipster and thus his hatred for Hipsters is driven by an emotional need to drive them away thus averting the obvious . Someday he will need to have a conversation with his parents.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
ha ha
We may need to up the rec to green to five.
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I’m annoyed by the frequent possessive pronoun/contraction errors by many posters here, but I just try to ignore it. That, and quietly add said posters to my “does not care about grammar” obelisk. That’s right, I have more than one obelisk.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Nope
you are forever labeled as a jerk, jerk.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Oh it takes more than one offense to get put on an obelisk. I’m not THAT unreasonable.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Yeah, that was a silly mistake of mine. I’m not a grammar nazi and I’m okay with the subtler slip-ups. I just feel that the people here that habitually make possessive pronoun/contraction errors DO know better and just choose to not put forth the effort.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
As long as people make an attempt
to use some capitilization and punctuation I find I’m ok. its the people that type like this and never punctuate and go on and on and write while paragraphs rambling like this that drive me nuts because it hurts my brain to watch them rant on and on about how much we need to give manny a 4 year deal or how… lol ……….. the only punctuation……….. they use is complete and random use of ……..s.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Right. I appreciate an honest effort. I find that attempting things like capitalization and punctuation are a sign of thoughtfulness. Being considerate with grammar, for me, goes a long way to promoting civility.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
i could give two shits about 100% proper grammar here. This is not an English class
by delias man on Dec 13, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Phew. Good thing I never said 100% anywhere.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I put zero effort into using proper grammar in my comments. I do try to spell words correctly.
Some of you might think I also put zero effort to use proper grammar in my writing but you’d be wrong, it just looks that way.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Those who aspire
to be future writers should give a fuck, those of us just waiting to die, probably not.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was talking about how I don’t really judge people based on their personas over the internet; as it turns out, most of you are actually very nice people though it would not and does not appear as such over such a medium devoid of nuance and tone and other contextual clues such as the Internet.
I don’t always type like the academic that I am because not only is that tiresome, it’s not the way I choose to engage most individuals on a daily basis because it’s FUCKING DIFFICULT. I assume others are like and can, when they need to, communicate fully and use grammatical rules to the best of their ability.
This being a Dodger blog, I tend to not care as much and figure y’all probably don’t care either. :P
Winter is coming.
Only if
Sofía Vergara does the audio version.
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this is starting to remind me of Friends
where Joey and Chandler would pretend to be angry at each other
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I simply feel that people should be civil to each other. Especially since we’re all on the same team here…
Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.
Proper grammar
!= civility
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I said earlier that proper grammar, for me, is a sign of being thoughtful. So I interpret it is a step towards being civil.
Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.
And I am saying you are wrong.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
But we already had that discussion
we disagree on what level of proper grammar is necessary to be considered “civil”
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I haven't seen you this riled up since the prop 19 debate
while replying to me :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You realize you have to pay Bob Timmermann
$3 every time you use the obelisk right? I learned the hard way, but when that bill arrives, hoo boy!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I can be tongue-in-cheek, too.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I’m really not that complicated.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Is that a compliment?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
it means your sig is hella long
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
My mother would spend all her time here correcting grammer. But then, she hates baseball, and she STILL corects my grammer!
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Funny, I also called my mom’s mom “Grammer,” and we’d correct her all the time.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a unstoppable need
to fucking reply here.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you have any kind of a belly
the untucked look helps.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
And if you are a slob, like I am,
the untucked look is a matter of consquence.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
thanks...
I am going to check that out. Is that a segment off the News? Or its own slot?
by The Real Pancho on Dec 13, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Saw that
it was like a cartoon, not hoping anyone would be hurt but that would have been so cool to see that land on a huddle during a game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I like Favre
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
leave brett favre aaaaaaloooooooooooooooooooooooone
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
We can do better and I just can’t come to grips with Hall’s numbers in 2007-2009.
Even his .316 OBP in 2010 with the Red Sox was a five year high.
If he played 2b or multiple positions, he ’d be a greater benefit. If he was Crawford on defense in LF, maybe, but otherwise, sign me up for the NRI LF audition with an eye on POSSIBLE Sands progress in March.
I know Sands needs to wait until atleast June and next year is more likely.
That $4mil might come in handy and I just don’t see anything in his #s to justify the $.
I thought we was broke?
I thought he did play multiple positions?
Though more likely as an emergency role player; at SS the team has Furcal, Uribe and Carroll all better defensively there. But in a pinch he can play the infield.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
We could probably do better
on the trade market but in that price range I don’t see how could do better on the FA market. Sure Damon is better but if Hall signs for 4 Million that would be 1/2 of what Damon is looking for.
I’m crossing my fingers it is a one deal in case he totally blows.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
In my mind I have been seeing 2/$9 million for some reason, but that was just a thought.
I think he can get ~$5m or so on a one-year deal.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
if Hall signs for 4 Million that would be 1/2 of what Damon is looking for
Wait, when people say “Damon wants to get paid,” we are talking about a 1/8 deal? So $4 million is what is standing between the Dodgers and a real LF?
Somebody tell me that’s not true. I mean, it’s not even like Damon is a perfect player. He is surely flawed. But Bill Hall could put up the 60 OPS+ he put up two short years ago. Please, somebody tell me that Damon is going to get some kinda crazy deal that really forces the Dodgers to go with Hall.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I think the problem is that Damon can’t reasonably be expected to play the OF for 130 games. That, not the money, is probably the bigger impediment.
We shall find out
we don’t even have any idea what they are trying to sign Hall for.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Do y'all believe there is a legit 3rd team in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes(other then Rangers Yankees)
and if so, who do you believe it is. Interestingly, some dude claims the mystery third team(if they truly exist) are only offering a 4 or 5 year deal(link). If they are real, how much per year must they be offering to have not been kicked out of the room already?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
No. I think it’s down to Texas or the Yankees
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I hope he stays with the Rangers. Would be weird for Martin to catch for Lee though.
Winter is coming.
I think it'd be great
calling for 0-0 fastballs inside and 0-2 fastballs up out of the zone for every batter is only okay if you have a pitcher like lee who will never miss.
One thing I know I won’t miss is Martin’s predictability in his pitch caling.
Do, do, do you have it?
Anyone else think
That Boston’s seven year deal was only offered in an attempt to drive up the price on the yanks?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I'll be honest
That 35 homer year makes him at least somewhat intriguing to me. His “defensive versatility” is what is likely attracting Ned. If we sign him, I’ll be holding out hope he could pull an Aubrey Huff and reinvent his game in time for a World Championship.
Sadly anything you did more than three years ago has no predictive value.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Except for Adrian Beltre’s contract year?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Hall see some time at 3B occasionally.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I think Uribe will end up playing more 3B than 2B. Blake is just about finished, IMO.
by silverwidow on Dec 13, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Casey “higher WAR than every Dodger offensive player but Furcal in 2010” Blake is “just about finished?”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
…as an everyday 3B. Back problems in your mid 30’s tend to worsen.
by silverwidow on Dec 13, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
He was fairly durable last year, and he’s in his contract year. I think he’ll do just about anything to stay in the lineup. Hopefully that translates into a decent season.
What that translates to when I read that
is that he will attempt to play through pain and suck but will not be taken out of the lineup because he will say he’s fine.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I expect Blake to get more days off, but that he will still start ~120 games at 3B.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think Mattingly
will use his everyday 2nd baseman to spell Blake at 3rd base instead of Carroll or keep Uribe at 2nd and use Carroll at 3rd?
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think he should
but what do I know?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I think Carroll would start more at 3B in those cases.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I think there is still a good chance that Mitchell makes the team, in which case he would probably get those starts.
If Mitchell makes the team, I think the majority of his starts would be to spell Loney against LHP.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Hell if Hall makes the team
we would Loney, Andre, Hall who can’t hit left hand pitchers in the regular lineup. Russell will need to be cloned.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed, but I don’t think that Blake sits much against lefties since he hits them well. He will sit mostly against RHP.
Russ could get some good at bats
1. Spell Loney against LHP
2. Spell Blake against RHP when Blake needs a break
3. Pinch Hit just about every game
Could be looking at around 250 at bats. Or when he goes 1/ 50 maybe only 50 before they try someone else.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
File me into the "I don't give a shit if we sign Bill Hall" category.
He will not make the team significantly better or worse.
The only thing that will piss me off is when we trade extra prospects at the deadline for a reliever so as not to take on additional salary. Of course, this would happen regardless so I’m not going to be blaming Bill Hall.
There is an off chance
our starting pitching and relief pitching will be good enough even ned won’t feel the need to do that. crosses fingers
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
/realizes he I am delusional.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I can agree with that, but I’d put it a different way: with Bill Hall in LF, it is likely that he does not affect any change upon the Dodger offense as we move from 2010 to 2011.
Where I get negative is that I wanted to see improvement at that position. That’s all.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
he’s not the LF we needed to give us more hope in 2011, on the other hand he gives me more hope then Podboy, so while incremental it is more then I originally had hoped for.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Beltre might be able to set up a bidding war
between the A’s, Angels, and Rangers. That could be very lucrative for him.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Maybe we can get
Bowker
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Holy hell this is dark
From @paulscheer: Stop Everything & Watch the Alt Ending 4 Yogi Bear, done by the real animators, it will be taken down quickly http://youtu.be/m6w0r-ScEG4
Superduper dark.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You made me sad
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm guess that has to be a parody
of some other movie, not a “real” alt ending.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Yes indeed
it took me a sec but realized it’s basically the Assassination of Yogi Bear by the Coward Boo-Boo. Still dark and great, though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Been meaning to see that
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Holy shit
That looked like it could have been an actual movie by the looks of the background and the characters. Jeez, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it's supposedly by the makers of the movie
who probably did it as an in- joke for themselves. which is why it looks pretty seamless.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The tears in Boo Boo eyes
were amazing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I haven't watched it, but just remember
“Good things come in bears.” :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
That still kills me
even if Doug Benson is officially tired of it. ;)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You all know we have a Jellystone Park
above Redlands here in the Southland? Complete with a Boo Boo road.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So doesn't anyone find these splits weird
for the players mentioned?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s actually a league wide thing. Righties against lefties were 46 points better in 2009, 34 in 2010. Maybe it is that lefties got better.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
The Quentin thing is weird because it goes back five years, but I think the others will tend to even out.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
For those who wanted to make snide remarks about Jim Tracy, he’s ok.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
OK, I got one.
Tracy’s collapse is just the latest for the Rockies, who contended for the postseason before their season-ending eight-game skid.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I don't mind
Bill Hall at all, but I would suggest Edwin Encarnacion for LF. Probably has more upside, the only problem is he has never played LF in the majors. I wonder how difficult the transition would be?
Hall questions
1. I’ve been on the Quentin bandwagon, so I have to ask, what does Hall look like as a defensive outfielder?
2. The assumption seems to be a one-year deal, has that been discussed elsewhere and I just missed it? I’d hate to see a Blake contract here.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 13, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions
Per Plus/Minus
Hall has only played 519 innings in LF in the last two years. He is -6 overall in runs saved, including a horrific -9 in 341 innings in Boston in 2010.
Not sure there is much there on which to form an opinion.
He was averageish in CF…but that was 2007.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Boy I am just falling in love with Bill Hall.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Subjectively
he looked awful in CF whenever I watched the Brewers in 2007, that was when I watched part of them every night.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't that his first year in OF
after transitioning from SS? I have seen several reports saying that he is an average to slightly above-average defender in the OF.
The Dodger beat writers are making it sound like Kemp and Ethier won’t be changing positions.
by silverwidow on Dec 13, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
hopefully Trayvon forces their hand next year...
but they’d probably just put him in LF…
:/
@neufaustcan
I would love for Mattingly to prove me wrong, but nothing short of a star caliber player will move the big guys from their current spots.
by silverwidow on Dec 13, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I would get on board the Mike Cameron train.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I’d consider facial reconstruction surgery just to get it done.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Is he a FA or is he still under contract?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
They have too many outfielders. We have too many pitchers. Maybe all of their outfielders and all of our pitchers can get in a room together and work it out.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I'm normall game for trading relievers for
starting position players but I’d rather only give up Broxton if part of a package returning a legit starting player. Isn’t Cameron about to be 38 and tailed off last year?
Also seems he’s likely staying put anyway.
http://www.overthemonster.com/2010/12/12/1871816/mike-cameron-likely-to-stay-with-the-red-sox-next-season
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Broxton, like Cameron, will be a FA after 2011, and he makes $7m. While Cameron didn’t look good in limited play last year, he is a year removed from .250/.342/.452 in Milwaukee with 24 HR, and still rated as a plus defender in CF.
The biggest problem is that it gives Ned even more reason to make an idiotic move for a mediocre relief pitcher.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Self Inflicted
Staring at Hall’s OBP, K rate and general suckitude for his age 27-30 years, I find it likely that we will be howling in pain by April 30th
Fans in Milwaukee were suffering after his contract.To think we’d voluntarily do this Harry Carey!
I see nothing here I like and we have backups all over the infield. He’s no benefit there.
For a $1mil? Sure but not $4 or $5mil.
Gotta be a better choice here…Almost anybody can play LF…keep looking.
The problem I have with Encarnacion is why do teams keep cutting him when he plays a premium position?
he's very bad defensively
Jays fans reffered to him as “E5”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
There really are not better options on the FA market.
Damon – expensive and no longer capable of playing defense
Pods – been there, sucks
Ankiel – sucks
Maggs – too expensive
Milledge – maybe some upside, but hasn’t seem to get past his attitude problems
So Lastings doesn’t something annoying, but harmless, other team assaults him, steals second, assaults him again?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I would take Milledge
but he is definitely not a “Ned Guy”
He is interesting and probably super cheap due to this weekend’s stunt. I’d take him but doubt Ned would.
Milledge may not be a "Ned" guy
but neither were Padilla and Manny. Manny fell in his lap sure, but Padilla was cheap, and Milledge would arguably be as well.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ned will gamble on non-Ned Guys when there’s a big enough track record. That doesn’t really apply to Milledge.
was there really a track record with Padilla though?
He was always a 4.00 ERA guy who had great stuff but also attitude problems. The only thing I think he has different from Milledge is he’s been in the league longer. That might be enough for ned though.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Maggs – too expensive
What does he want?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Boy, that’s a lot of money for a guy who’s got some injury question marks.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Scott, Daddy’s working, so as long as you’re going to be in the main chamber, try to use your big-boy voice, okay? Thank you.
Sorry, I just heard that statement in Seth Green’s voice…can’t believe the first Austin Powers movie is 13 years old.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I'd never heard of Seth Green's
Star Wars Robot Chicken until I saw it on Jon Stewart the other night.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Robot Chicken Star Wars is awesome
Some choice quotes:
What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?
Oh, your hands are up, almost like you’re begging…begging for a little piece of Boba!
“Wow, Admiral Ackbar cereal!”
“Your tongues can’t repel flavor of THAT magnitude!”
Classic stuff.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Love the first one
Had my brothers rolling one time doing almost that entire bit.
“Just rebuild it? Great idea! Who’s gonna give me a loan jackhole? You? You got an ATM machine in that torso light-brite of yours? Now you get your 7’2” asthmatic ass back here, or I’m gonna tell everyone what a whiny little bitch your were about Padamamae or Panda-bear or whatever the hell her name was. Oh geez, he’s crying."
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
The Admaril Ackbar one
has long been a favorite of mine.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
not to mention
will be 37 to start the season
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Lastings Milledge was involved in an on-field fight this weekend in the Venezuelan Winter League.
Probably not a good move by the free agent outfielder, who already carries a bad reputation. According to ESPN New York’s Adam Rubin, Milledge doubled in the fourth inning then mimicked a celebratory grenade throw into his team’s dugout. He was plunked in the seventh inning by the opposition, but stole second immediately and set off a benches-clearing brawl. Milledge was non-tendered by the Pirates earlier this month after an unimpressive 2010 and has not drawn much free agent interest. This certainly won’t help.
Source: Adam Rubin on Twitter
Tire kickin' going on
The Chicago Sun-Times’ Joe Cowley is sticking with his story that the White Sox are indeed shopping Carlos Quentin.
White Sox GM Kenny Williams told the Chicago Tribune’s Dave van Dyck that it wasn’t the case, but Cowley believes Williams is simply “protecting the shield” by saying Quentin isn’t on the market. A scout told Cowley that Williams is looking for a Carlos Lee-type return (Scott Podsednik and Luis Vizcaino) for Quentin but would also be willing to deal (3b)Dayan Viciedo or (3b)Mark Teahen instead in an effort to upgrade the bullpen.
Source: Joe Cowley on Twitter
Viciedo
that’s the guy people here were hoping to get for Manny right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Viceido
is going anywhere. I just read an article talking about how Viceido and Morel were expected to battle for the 3B spot in spring training.
Please don’t repost MLB Trade Rumors stuff on here verbatim, especially without a link.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
or Rotoworld, or whatever baseball news agregator it is.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
So is there any chance
Ned signs Pods and then ships him and Broxton to the South Side for Quentin? You don’t get Lee-type return with Podboy, after all… :-)
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Not this again
Bill Shaikin agrees with Josie
A division championship is more significant in baseball than in any other sport because the length of the season weeds out fluke teams, so let’s keep the divisions intact. Better yet, let’s borrow a page from English soccer and relegate the three worst teams in divisions outside the AL East to rotate in and replace the Rays, Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays, then rotate again every two years
Speaking as maybe the biggest soccer fan on this blog
Relegation and MLB is the stupidest idea ever.
Speaking as a soccer journalist
If the Durham Bulls are consistently more competitive than the two decades of losing seasons Pirates, it’s in the sports best interest to rotate the Pirates out.
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I only kid. There’s too much money invested in all of baseball right now for relegation to work. Manchester United can spend like the Yankees, but even as a cellar dweller the Pirates don’t spend like a team who has been up and down the leagues for a few years
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
That might work, if the minor leagues were actually independent. They are not.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
or if their stadiums
where big enough to support a major league sized crowd?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
thus it’s wishful thinking, like writing an article whose point is “The AL East is hard” and writing “Let’s have relegation!”
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
The AL East is hard
lets go shopping?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
pretty much. The Orioles have been to the WS before, as have the Blue Jays. Just cause it hasn’t happened since the Yankees became a money tree instead of a money pit don’t mean it won’t happen again
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Boca and Gimnasia
are playing a meaningful game at the moment. martincito just scored his 300th career goal. http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/canal-de-tv/vivo
I watched Man U – Arsenal earlier, pretty boring for a top of the league brawl, though it was all sorts of rough
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
It depends what kind of relegation system is being proposed. To make a blanket statement that “relegation” is a stupid idea without knowing the parameters is not a friend of wisdom.
Actually there are plenty of parameters that make sense. But we all know big changes don’t happen in the MLB. So from a position of it will never happen in the “near future” I agree. But from a position that it is a stupid idea that can never make sense for the MLB, I don’t.
Relegated and it feels so good
Actually there have been some long discussion(s) on the topic of relegation (and variants of it) over at The Book Blog. Some people have brought up some pretty interesting ideas to say the least. Here is my proposal on the best relegation system for baseball. Of course if this was ever a serious idea, I’d have to provide a little more detail and take into account things like travel schedules and a few other items. But call it a start.
The resulting playoffs for that system would’ve looked like this.
(#9NYN/#8SD Winner) vs #1PHI
#7ATL vs #2TB
#6CIN vs #3NYA
#5SF vs #4MIN
As it turned out tier #2 had three strong teams (CIN, ATL, TEX) and Texas gets screwed for being the third team in the second tier. Of course had Texas been playing the same schedule as the Reds maybe they finish differently? There is even a team in the third tier (the Padres) who had 90 wins. I could see maybe instead of the two top teams from tier 3 playing each other that maybe the #6 team from tier #1 should play against the #1 team from tier 3 if the #2 team from tier 3 does not meet a threshold of 81 wins. /jibberish
Why, kinbote, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ha Ha
that would be brilliant. Wonder what it would be like to play in the AL East in 2012:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly the NFL system would be just fine – just add two more wild cards, make add a first round best of 3, and give the top two division winners in each league a first round bye.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
At the end of the day
if the answer is Bill Hall and a multi year deal, I would hope Ned would pass and simply use Gywnn, Gibbons, Paul, Mitchell, Hoffman until the A’s are ready to trade Coco Crisp or the Red Sox are ready to trade Cameron.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'd prefer
Ned would pass and simply use Gywnn, Gibbons, Paul, Mitchell, Hoffman until June and then call up Trayvon rather than trading him to the A’s when they are ready to trade Coco Crisp or the Red Sox are ready to trade Cameron
I'm tickled
by this idea that Trayon Robinson is any good.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Whether he is good or not remains to be seen, but I would much rather find out with him as a Dodger than see him shipped off for someone like Crisp, Cameron or a MR.
I would also be unhappy
if he was shipped off for a middle reliever, but if we need an outfielder at the deadline, and Trayvon Robinson is the price for a healthy and productive Crisp / Cameron (meaning they were both healthy and producing in line with their historic norms) I’d trade him, because his upside is simply Coco Crisp and he’s not going to reach that in the 2nd half of 2011. Assuming we are in a pennant race in the 1st place with a viable chance for the postseason.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Considering Trayvon
Was a better player at basically every level and the same age than Crisp, I’m going to go ahead and say his upside is definitely better than Crisp. Is his most likely scenario being another Cris? Yes, but I would rather have 6 cost-controlled years of Trayvon than 3 months of Crisp. He is not a mid-season acquisition that is going to make this team significantly better.
Hasn't Crisp
been one of the premier defensive center fielders of the last five years or am I mis remembering?
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I can't stop
eating these Danish Butter Cookies.
I get to pick a tin up from my apartment building’s front desk every year. They’re so delicious. It’s amazing how a $5 tin of cookies can make me feel like the thousands of dollars I pay in rent all year is worthwhile.
I brought four of those
to work last Friday, within two hours they were all gone and we are a small company.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So I'm talking to my father about one of my take home finals
and all of a sudden he pastes my paper prompt — which I had not told him about — into the chat window. I was like, “WHERE THE HELL DID YOU FIND THAT?!” He goes, “Here!” and links the TBLA post in which I had posted it.
At first I was like oh no, my father follows me on TBLA. But then he told me he googled but. But now he probably is following me so, Hi Dad!
Winter is coming.
At first when I started writing here
I hoped my Dad would read our stuff since he is a huge baseball fan, but I’m glad he does not follow the comments.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Great name
someone should take it now to freak her out
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Between Maddz Daddz and iiidown there could soon be a real fathers convention.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
if my dad starts posting on here
I’d like to remind everyone of how chase and modest I am AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
Winter is coming.
I wonder if my Dad were to lurk here
if he would know who I was. he doesn’t know my name here.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
an “I wonder” was supposed to be there…..odd…..
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
damn, i can’t read anything right today. I need to go home.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If my dad starts posting on here, somebody call the authorities, because he is obviously off his meds and the warden really shouldn’t be giving him this much computer time.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
If my dad was Jack Warden, I would call him The Warden.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'd do a do over
and let us ban you thus removing every comment you ever made.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Found out last night one of my best friends is a lurker
reads the articles but never the comments. I didn’t ask, but I wonder if they all assume the comments are just going to be dodgers.com in nature.
Do, do, do you have it?
I expect most do
because up until 6-9 months ago they mostly were.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I used to read the articles....
and the first few comments. Then one day there was an OT comment, and I read the responses. Laughed for an hour! Now this is better than my subscription to MAD magazine!
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
I just realized that the ear buds that Apple ships with their merchandise are very cheap. I put some Sony’s on instead and it was like, WHOA.
welcome to 2000
:-p. Seriously though they really are completely shite.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
those headphones suck
cost a shitload of money for what you pay for and then break in a matter of months
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 13, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know how durable they are but the sound quality is shit. I love CRISP vocals and loud bass. The Apples sounded very muffled.
I have Skull Candy headphones
I am very satisfied with them.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
The girlfriend explained to me the horror that is buying jewelry last night. Apparently asking “what do you want” is cheating.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I consider necklaces to be the kiss of death based on historical precedent
but then again I don’t really date guys who know how to buy me presents, either.
Winter is coming.
He should have gone the correct route and asked your friends what you want.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Bought ex 2 necklaces. She loves them. Maybe it’s just the Maddz kiss of death.
Do, do, do you have it?
I used to spend 3-5 grand on jewelry for my ex every year......
Thank God she left me!
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
I have not spent 5,000 on jewelry gifts in my entire life.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Me either
and I am still married to my first wife. I must know how to pick ’em.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would try to find a place called “Bay Jewelers,” because if every kiss begins with Kay…
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That should have said “Bee Jewelers.”
Fucked it up.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I love the Jewelry Exchange from Tustin commercials. They wave like robots.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I tried to go there once
apparently they are closed on Mondays.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
You are supposed to know her so well
that you can look into her mind and decipher the exact gift that she would like. She will on the other hand never be able to figure out what kind of gift you would like. You could have the baseball forecaster open in front of you, the Bill James series to the left of you, the Jon Weisman 100 Ways to break a Dodger heart to the right of you, a schedule of the Dodger games on your laptop, the amazon link to John Sickels on your netbook, and she will tell you that she has no idea what your interests are.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
now that is just not true
I am awesome at getting birthday presents and Christmas/holiday gifts. I just date complete morons.
Winter is coming.
Basedo on the knowledge I have gleamed
from several months of your posting I would indeed say you are an oddity among the world of woman:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can't we just say
that she is an oddity and leave it at that?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Oddity
Ground control to Major Maddz….
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Damn it! I always forget about that one. I’m sure Gabe’s and their 2 million song book would have that.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
hah
its not like its a bad thing!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Bride and I have solved this problem by never buying each other anything.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, we used to buy gifts, and then we had a kid.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Don't most parents stop buying
themselves gifts once they have children?
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how does gift buying work once you have a joint bank account? Is it any less meaningful?
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Its the thought that counts
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
No, I still love paying attention and surprising her with something she mentioned from a while back.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
My wife
won’t spend money on herself unless I tell her too, so yeah, its nice to give her a little something I know she wants but wouldn’t get for herself.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
This describes my wife too. I have to convince her it is okay to get a haircut, she is so cheap.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
My wife just feels guilty whenever she spends money
which makes me feel guilty, so every once in a while I just turn to her and say “hey, go spend x dollars on yourself”.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
We both tend to be that way
so both my wife and I tend to give each other gifts that we wouldn’t spend the money on for ourselves. Sometimes we do the Maddz’s parent’s thing and agree to splurge on something for ourselves, but don’t wrap them up anymore – that would happen only back in the days when the kid still believed in Santa.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
“honey why did you pull a bunch of money out of our account?”
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
my parents get joint presents. And then wrap them. “oh look honey, we got a BRAND NEW HUGE TELEVISION! SWEET! WE ARE SO NICE!”
Winter is coming.
haha like the one where it's the kid's 1 year birthday
“Daddy got you a big screen TV!”
Do, do, do you have it?
My son has been asking for new floors for the past two years and no Grandparent is paying attention.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
They are just
waiting for him to start walking like a man
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I should point out that Bride did get me the best present I ever got in my life.
I wanted an antique mechanical (winding) watch and I used to go into antique jewelry stores to admire them, but would never have brought myself to buy one. Bride took it upon herself to get that done. I love my watch.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent work by Bride
Is it a pocket watch? Old pocket watches are excellent.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
that reminds me
that I need to find the pocket watch I bought my wife that she proceeded to break, and get it fixed.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I just date complete morons
With arms like tree trunks?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not an arm.
/cross the line
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
That's my favorite line in music:
“…..and a baby’s arm holding an apple.”
The Tubes ‘What Do You Want From Life’
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Bangkok will touch your……………. nevermind
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Back when I was in college(forever ago of course)
my wife picked up that I was looking into getting back into comics, realized I loved batman, and bought me a bunch of trades and the entire batman animated series.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Gifts I have received from her:
Towels
A Double Down
Now I did really need the towels, but I needed them so much I bought them for myself two days earlier.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Nope. Don’t get me wrong she’s great otherwise, but her gifts have been kinda off.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
I don't even know what a
Double Down is, but if your complaining about getting sex as a present maybe you should reconsider your complaint.
Speaking just for me, I’d say as a man, if I simply got sex instead of a bad present I’d be pretty happy with the whole present thing. If I want things I can buy them my self, however the other part is not quite the same by one self.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yes. There was a reason for it, but not a great one.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
SHE ASKED FOR IT!
Not entirely, but I’m sure it had something to do with it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
We did agree that six months was the chicken sandwich anniversary.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
A double down is a sandwich
from Wendy’s. Right?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I don't like this
I expect sex AND the present.
What about getting her a set of nice towels with your picture on them?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
oh good god no. Pictures belong on T-shirts surrounded by airbrushing, with slogans like “World’s Best Boyfriend”
by Josie Becker on Dec 13, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
She is counting on you to recall the time she mentioned or pointed to you something
that she liked since the first day you met.
GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I mean I know general style and stones she likes, but after that it’s completely up in the air.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
if Maddz does help you Reg
remember to take ALL the credit.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Maddz Daddz
Do a better job of hiding your gifts!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know about maddz
but my parents just give me money and tell me to buy stuff so they can wrap it and put it under the tree.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That is the worst thing I have ever heard.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't always that way
but now days, I much prefer it that way.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Agreed
I already opened the gifts from my mom, and I am returning them. Thankfully, it was all from Sears, so hello PS3 games!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Maddz Mommz did at one point
but than Maddz Sisz (what?!) totaled it. So now she drives a buick.
Winter is coming.
had those
earbuds. really nice. then I tugged on them because they were knotted up and found a way to prevent the left speaker from working. some bullshit. I spend way too much money on headphones and the replacement thereof.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 13, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oy. Would I be called a hipster for not liking Bose and trying to explain why you shouldn’t like Bose, either?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Nope
I just chose them because my roommate has them and I liked ‘em. But I would be interested to hear why I shouldn’t like Bose.
Winter is coming.
My dislike is more about the company’s business practices (marketing instead of good sound); I haven’t had enough experience with all their products to say that they’re all terrible (which I’m sure isn’t the case anyway). In general, Bose is more about marketing than putting out a good product. They put out a lot of advertisements and are thus a well-known brand. While their products aren’t always bad, they are invariably over-priced because you pay for the name.
With Bose’s noise-canceling headphones in particular, you pay for the noise-canceling technology and not so much the sound quality. I’ve only demoed one pair of Bose headphones. They weren’t bad, but you could definitely get better sound for the money.
I don’t keep up with what the newer decent headphone brands are (I’m no longer in the market), but you’re usually okay with Sennheiser, Grado, Audio-Technica, among others.
Here’s an old article (though AFAIK, the premise is not outdated) about why Bose (the company) and their speakers are not worth getting.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Thats odd
I’ve heard the EXACT opposite. Have you ever seen a Bose commercial? Things are as no frills as you can get.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What do you mean “no frills”? I’ve seen too many Bose commercials in my life.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Yes
and none of them look like they cost much to make.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I’m not following you..
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Simple
the commercials they make are simple, as opposed to say a sony commercial with a bunch of CG and Justin Timberlake.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Oh. Well, Sony (for the most part) isn’t high-end either. Not that these are necessarily super high-end brands, but do you see commercials for Polk, Infinity, Paradigm, or Mirage for speakers? Or Sennheiser, Grado, Beyer-dynamic for headphones? My experience has just been that the “nicer” higher-bang-for-buck audio stuff isn’t usually mass-marketed.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone form a rational opinion against marketing.
Do, do, do you have it?
I’m not saying that marketing is bad, but people think Bose is good because they see advertisements for it. They are well-recognized among people that are not audio enthusiasts. I was replying specifically to nolander’s comment about Bose’s advertisements versus Sony’s.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I think it has more to do with the accessibility of their stores, and the non-douchy feeling you get when going in there. They have excellent customer service.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like Bose has a fantastic marketing department. Hating their product is one thing. Hating the company because they are good at their jobs is another thing entirely. I take this as the Wal-mart argument about how their strategy of building up through small towns and diversified shipment methods means they are taking over the world.
Do, do, do you have it?
I don't like Wal Mart because they are evil
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I don’t like Wal-Mart because the checkout lines always take at least 20 min.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
But that’s not quite right. The marketing department is good at its job. The actual product is mediocre and over-priced. For me, it’s not far away from false advertising.
Wal-mart sells useful products that I buy (not necessarily from Wal-mart).
Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.
I don't see it as being different
people are pissed because Wal Mart muscles out small stores right? And you are pissed because people buy Bose instead of one of the other high end audio companies products.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That and the slave labor.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I was more reffering to G Scotts small town thing
but yes, thats why I call them evil.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Is this even worth debating? I’d rather not talk about Wal-mart’s trade practices and how they compare to Bose’s marketing efforts.
Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.
Actually, Marketing is lying for profit, sin't it?
My main gripe about marketing is Corona beer. I used to surf in Baja, many moons ago. We would surf all day and go into Ensenada at night. In the bars, Carta Blanca was 50 cents a bottle, and Corona was two for 25 cents, and we still drank the Carta Blanca. Corona was a cheap, really light beer. It’s Coors Light light. And now, with marketing, it’s the coolest beer to drink, with a lime, for God’s sake! The lime was supposed to cut the bitter aftertaste of something like Dos Equis or Tres Equis, not a super ligh like Corona.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
I am here to tell you that Corona is not the “coolest beer to drink”
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting
I would appreciate it if you would find another sig.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
But the reason I have it is to annoy you!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
That is not succeeding
I was thinking more of the mobile readers of which I’m not one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sigh. Honestly it is so over the top I can’t help but be amused every time I read it. If it’s that much of a concern I will get rid of it.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Me too!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
by MR.F. on Dec 13, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose_Corporation#Opinions_about_Bose
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I own a Bose system, and Mr. F is right on here. Bose is right in the middle of quality, but you can get much better bang for your buck.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
I always like comments like this with followup
what would be the better buys?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t have any specific recommendations, but any time I have visited A/V forums, most of the audiophiles will recommend comprable prices for a better product. In my experience, any time I have researched audio options, Bose is considered very overrated. Now, I happen to like my setup, and it works for me, but if I were to eventually get something new, it would not be Bose.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
but isn’t audiophile code for “full of shit”? :-p
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Ha….I think Bose gets the job done, but there are better options out there.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't disagreeing with you there
Bose is quite expensive
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Audiophile has a negative connotation to it. Usually people see audiophile and think “$10,000 cables.”
However, not everything is snake oil and money well-spent can provide very tangible differences.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Mr F
is right that Sennheiser is awesome. Honestly I don’t personally believe in blindly trusting any brand, I usually shop around when I’m looking for something. As much as I claim Sony is generally overpriced, I still own one of their soundbars, and find it to be excellent.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Without knowing anything about what you may or may not be interested in, I’ve found this FAQ (from the Anandtech computer forum) to be a useful starting point.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Josie hates Bose, and thinks their speakers haven’t been truly tested, and if they were, wouldn’t compare with the market leaders.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Would have been funnier if I used Jose
I keep just missing on my jokes today.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
I love 80s music, too. But as far as actually sitting down and listening to an album from beginning to end, just the Beatles.
80's music is so vague
the difference between like X and Journey is the same gap that separates Eric ability to communicate from TJ Simers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
quick question
since Gibbons actually hits pretty good against LHP, do you think Donnie might put him at 1B against a tough lefty? I guess Russ Mitchell would be more likely if he made the team.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions
I don’t buy that Gibbons is anything against anything, considering he has 80 plate appearances in three years.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
is
a definitive answer
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Humma
Off, off topic, but there are a new series of commercials about some cell phone service being faster than the others. The best commercial is the one about tacos outside of a dude’s office, only one guy didn’t get his message until after he complained about not being invited (and calling a guy weird).
Anyway…
In the other commercial, one guy in a carpool gets a joke sent to him and laughs before everyone else in the car, because he has the better cell phone service. The guy riding shotgun kind of looks like you IMO.
Any way I can get a youtube? I love to see my doppelgangers.
The one I get all the time is Chris Kattan. I used to get “a young Chris Kattan,” but I don’t get that anymore.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCzpmtolPGE
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
That DOES look like me. Right down to the glasses and the sour expression on his face.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
It does
without the sour face, we have only seen you smiling because you always have your daughter with you.
Love that guys love.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
“I need a guy what looks like the guy riding shotgun in that AT&T commercial! But he’s gotta be cheap! And not as good looking! Whaddaya got for me, Stephen?”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I would do a lot better
than to cast the Jack in the Box wife as the wife in two other commercials currently running (Wii, and I forgot the other one)!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
I dig that first one
haven’t seen the 2nd one yet. I’ll be on the look out for the Humma Clone. You have to be careful when you say someone looks like someone, we all like to think we are better looking then reality.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
taco party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD3ugol1DxU
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Pizza Hut commercial
Has anyone seen the one where this young blonde says Pizza Hut will “guarantee you a second date”? I’ve been searching for it on youtube with no luck. I think it’s one of the funniest things ever.
That's actually true though
first date: pizza hut, second date: sexy time.
Boom.
Do, do, do you have it?
Chef Art's pizza is amazing
So that’d probably look more like
First date: Chef Art’s….and then sexy time
Winter is coming.
I probably could just give money to the people that I would generally buy
gifts for and then bake some cookies and bread for others. This is why I don’t get stressed out about the holidays.
Only if it had .89 left on it
then totally an insult
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wait, they didn’t tell you…holy cow that is crazy.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nope.
I went to Best Buy and bought $93 worth of stuff thinking I had 100 to spend. Then the cashier said I owe like 50 bucks.
That is a bummer
I wonder if they knew?
For example we get many AE cards as gifts from Parents but until last year they could deduct money from the value of the card each year as it was not used. So we literally have cards worth nothing even though we have not used them. This might have happened to you, they gave you what they thought was a 100 gift card because it had never been used, but the deductions might have lessened the value.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Waitaminute. Do we understand the facts here?
1. You were given a gift card
2. The face value of the gift card was $100
3. Nothing was said about the gift card being less than full value or a regift
4. The gift card was for less than face value.
That is nuts.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
This is the worst gift I have ever heard of.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think I would rather be given 40 bucks than be kicked in the balls.
Do, do, do you have it?
by G.Scott on Dec 13, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Does not matter…include the freaking amont in the card then…it would still be cheap, but at least you are up front about it.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
This happened to my girlfriend
When she graduated from nursing school her aunt gave her two gift cards to Banana Republic. Each one had like $19.37 on it.
My wife already gifted me this weekend
when she kept me from being run over by a car. Never a good idea to be listening to someone see the walk light light up and then start to use the other crosswalk. Luckily she can scream loud enough to penetrate the stupidity of her mate.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My brother Kelly sent that to me and Greg.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
VOTE YOU FOOLS
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/10/1868125/tbla-t-shirts-selection-r1-p2
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
GIVE HIM 4 YEARS 100 MILLION
DO IT DO IT NOW MCCHEAP.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What would have to happen for Simers and Plaschke to both write nice articles praising the Dodgers in the same week?
Do, do, do you have it?
or
Kershaw will have to strike out every batter he faces in a CG and Bison will have to have 9 solo homers.
Winter is coming.
Most of our lineup
seems to have 20+ HR power. Could be lots and lots of solo shots.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Kemp’s padding his stats. Derek Jeter would have grounded out with a nine run lead.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
For anything short of that
#blamekemp
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell
is Maikel Cleto? Have the Mariners given up all hope of offense?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Guy that throws hard with no control, every team has five guys like that.
Ryan sucks, but he’s probably better than Jack Wilson.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of which, Keith Law
apparently is wondering about the Cards downgrade from one Ryan to the other, though I can’t read this damned thing.
New post for Insiders on the Angels ignoring history with Downs and the Ryan/Theriot downgrade in St. Louis: http://klaw.me/fLjX4f
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
uhhh
what the fuck?
Sterling has expressed his displeasure about Davis’ play by taunting him from his courtside seat at Clippers’ home games, several sources told Yahoo! Sports. Among Sterling’s verbal barbs:
– "Why are you in the game?"
– "Why did you take that shot?"
– "You’re out of shape!"
Winter is coming.
he is in the game
because you signed him to a big ass deal you idiot.
nevertheless, I bought clips tickets today to see BG dunk all over Golden State. I am officially on the bandwagon.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 13, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Leave our owner alone
your guy owns the Lakers, drive drunk because from season I guy who his worth over 1 Billion dollar cannot spend the money for a fucking driver after he gets shit faced.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was more just bringing that to your attention in case you didn’t notice, since it’s a team you like and that seems kind of shitty and strangely familiar…where have I heard someone high up in an organization do that before…hmmm…
Was it with Kemp? Is that right?
It just seems fucked up is all. I don’t care who the owner is.
Winter is coming.
Indeed
as a fan DTS has every right to jab at Baron. As an owner he has every right that the 13 Million he’s spending on him resulted in him coming to camp fat, trying an accelerated workout program that ended with his gimpy ass knee putting him out of action and putting the Clipper season in jeopordy since he was the vet who was supposed to lead the young lions into action.
Since he is the owner however he should do this in private but the real scoundrel in this is Baron Davis not DTS>
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Couldn't even get to 300 straight
Puss.
Seriously though, starting 297 straight games in the NFL is a ridiculous streak, regardless of position.
Speaking of Bill Hall
I say do it. He wasn’t awful with Boston. He will hit 20 bombs and is versatile.
On a two year deal, He and Uribe at the very least stabilize the left side next season. It creates options.
Kemp, Loney and Either are the real issues. There are no real LF solutions out there, so why not at least bring in a guy who gives the roster options and has some power.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 13, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions
So,if we get Hall,
we’ll have 9 guys in the starting lineup that will hit at least 20 HR’s this year?
( I’m assuming Kenley Jansen will either pitch or play LF)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Loney probably won't hit 20.
Blake will hit 17ish.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Hyperbole?
It’s hyperbole to think that a guy whose homer rate has been declining, at 4% of fly balls last year, who hit home run #10 on Sept. 28, might not make it to 10 HR in 2011? I didn’t think anyone thought 20 HR was possible for Loney since before the 2008 season; an 8-9 HR season seems like less of an outlier for Loney now than in previous years.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Its hyperbole to say you would be amazed
if he hit more, yes. He has hit 10 or more for what, 4 years now?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Part of it is that I didn’t expect him to make it to 10 last year, and part of it is that I have a low threshold for amazement.
Look, animation made on a computer over the interwebs!
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
When he hits 10 home runs in April
you are going to shit your pants
when ends the season with 13
you will shit them again
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sew nice
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Dec 13, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yay
We can have Chris Shelton play first base!
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Hey
he had power just missed on the ability to make contact. He’d have become Rod Barajas
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not trying to tell anyone to do their jobs
but perhaps the tshirt part 2 thread should get bumped to the front page? Its not getting anywhere near as much activity as the first thread.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
i stopped voting because of the extreme unikelihood that i would buy one.
Sorry, I love the blog and the t-shirt would look great, but I just wouldn’t wear it.
Do, do, do you have it?
C'mon
If nothing else, it will be a great tee to wear under your Dodger jersey at the Stadium. I always wear my Dodger Thoughts tee that way. Also the TBLA tee will be great wearing for changing the oil in your car, heavy gardening activity, crawling in the attic, etc.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Does “shearing the alpaca” mean what I think it means?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 13, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I already voted when it was originally posted.
Should I vote again?
(Someone check my grammer.)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
I only saw
one in the 2nd group I’d wear “Peripherals are showing”.
Again while the voting is great, if the slogan ends up being an embarrassment to Eric, he’s not going to sell it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
not enough hipsters eating sausage?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Well the motivation
needs to be from the generous side of your heart. The T-Shirt is strictly a gimmick by which you can trick yourself into giving money to TBLA while also getting something of benefit from it, in case the daily articles, the payroll sidebar and other secondary things did not inspire you. I think of the T-Shirt as the cover charge.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Barry Larkin is dumb
at least about Russell Martin. Saying that Martin’s decline was because of being injured “over and over and over” again. Wasn’t the hip thing the first time he was on the DL? Nice research.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions
Maybe
he has inside knowledge that he’s been hurt over and hurt but never stopped playing.
Probably not
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe
analyst is not a word that describes what Barry Larkin does well. Just like “hitter” did not describe Ryan Theriot well, or “second baseman” for Alfonso Soriano back in the day.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 13, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe Larking can be a analyst/therapist, or analrapist, if you will.
/tobias
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Wotcher.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
One of my favorite words
I even made a Buffy joke based on it. How would one say, “Say, Giles! Which program is on the television?”
The answer, of course, is: Wotcher, watcher. Whatcha watchin’?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 13, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
In case anyone was wondering
The Dodgers officially announced that pitchers & catchers first workout is February 17. First full-team workout is Feb 22.
Jansen
Is he someone the league will catch up to next year? He needs to stop walking so many guys, but I’m still kind of blown away by those K rates. It’s not like he throws 98-100. It’s around 93-95 but I guess the action on the ball throws hitters off.
you don’t exactly “catch up” to 100mph fastballs. You might guess right sometimes, but hitting 100mph fastballs is not a skill. It comes so fast that you have to correctly guess the timing, trajectory, location and movement of it beforehand.
Think of it this way. On a 95mph fastball, if your front foot hasn’t landed when the pitcher releases the ball, you’ve already missed it.
Do, do, do you have it?
Tell that to Gary Sheffield. He could be tying his shoe as the pitcher releases the ball and still hit a 99 mph fastball.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Math is a science
But I will choose to attribute it to the science of physics.l
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You could never shoot Gary if he had a bat in his hand, he’d just foul off the bullet.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Because it came up
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If Lee really wanted to play in New York, he’d have signed by now, correct? I don’t see the point in waiting at this point. Texas is probably going to get him.
Sure
hope so. I’d forever become a Cliff Lee fan.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe He's
Considering joining Ozzie Smith on the mystery team.
…I’m probably not the first person to think of this, am I.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Besides the Nationals, I haven’t been able to think of another team. Maybe you’re right.
Do, do, do you have it?
I didn't hear it
But I will recap:
Steve Mason opened the interview, asking if Ned now had to report to Jamie. Ned laughed and played it off.
Then, Jon Ireland chimed in and asked when the Dodgers would get an ace. Ned then pointed out that they had six starters.
Then, through the course of a few questions, Ned would repeat the same talking points of acquiring players who wanted to play here, and had championship experience, and that these guys won 95 games two years ago, etc.
Then, Ireland chimed in, saying “last thing from me…with Tashard Choice asking for Michael Vick’s autograph after the game last night, on TV, have you ever seen anything like that in baseball?”
At least I think that’s how it might have went.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Ned should do bloggers
at least we would ask different questions and one for sure would not be “When are you going to get an Ace” it would be “When are you going to get a hitter”:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I asked to get in on some conference calls, and on the two I have been allowed to join (Uribe & Garland), I happened to be too busy at the time of the call.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Has anything useful ever come from an interview on [someone] and [someone]
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
I’ve found the Aflack Duck interviews to be incredibly enlightening.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 13, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially not if the title of the show includes the word “morning.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Troy and Abed in the Morning gave us an exclusive with Jeff Winger.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Community this last Thursday
was the best Christmas Show I’ve seen since Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer. Period .. Double Period
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Judging contest
using 1-10 you don’t want to use your 10 up early in case someone later in the act trumps the earlier act. So you use a nine just in case you might need to use the 10 later.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ah, gotcha
Yeah, I hate being a 10 whore.
I like using the whole scale, especially the lower end, too.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
It’s also best, at least for me, to wait a while to rank something.
I was convinced after opening weekend in 1996 that Independence Day was the greatest movie of all time, for instance.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
I had a professor who said first day he will never give out 10s. Also he graded on a curve. He was not a math professor.
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by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Following that up with Kevin going insane on The League two hours later have been a close second.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure this will be taken down soon enough
But here is Kevin, freaking out.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
i don't know that show
but that was hilarious.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 13, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Saw SM2 last night
and damn if Jeff Winger wasn’t in the movie playing a pussy banker.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The question will just become, “Now that Kershaw has a Cy Young award, is he an ace?”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
“When are you going to get a second ace like Philly”
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Don't Mason and Ireland hate Colletti?
Something to do with him snapping at them about Schmidt?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
They seem to be jovial with Colletti when he’s on.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 13, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Idiots are always jovial which is why we are such a serious bunch.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ned has always had a good relationship
at least it is portrayed on air with the local sports guys (Mason and Ireland, KLAC/Fox) and also MLB Network Radio folks.
One of the things you heard early after Ned was hired was that he was more approachable than DePodesta was doing these types of interviews (from Mason).
would be ridiculous to see Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels.
Thank god for Joe Blanton.
Do, do, do you have it?
They are going for a Yankees-esque payroll?
Godamnit I hate them even more after hearing they MIGHT be going after Lee.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Ruben Amaro is convinced the world is ending in 2012. It explains so much.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 13, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Also
How hilarious would it be to see them get Lee then still not win more than 90-92 games and lose first round of the playoffs. It would show them!
Ok, I’m sad now :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'm pretty sure they where happy with the trade
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
They would be
World Champions if not for that trade. Or the very least maybe won one more playoff game.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
wasn't one of the reasons they traded him was because...
his contract demands were too high and they weren’t going to be able to sign him long term?
@neufaustcan
As I recall
they said at the time they needed to replenish their minor league system which they had lost in trading for both Lee and Halladay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I mean this is all conjecture, but Lee responded to their “he is asking for too much for an extension” comments with something along the lines of loving it there and willing to give a discount.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I took Lee’s interviews after the trade to Seattle to mean he was pretty hurt and pissed about it. I see him going back to Texas, which would be great.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Unless
he loved his time in Philly which sounded like he did, and wants a better chance to win a ring then what the Rangers can give him, while also not wanting to be a Yankee. Whew
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I doubt Philly can match a Rangers offer.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 13, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
BTW OT
USC and UCLA football attendance both dropped somewhere between 4 and 6% this year. Washington was about the same or a little bit more. Cal dropped 3-5%. Oregon was about the same. Stanford was the same or slightly below last year.
They are getting close to 80K (USC)
and they had Cal, Oregon and Notre Dame at home, their attendance for 2011 will be based on the first three games with Syracuse, Utah and Minnesota at home.
He will get a steal
By trading ONLY Sands, Rubby, and Withrow. Might as well just include Jansen to make sure.
7 starters…we’d be invincible!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
How could we lose????
haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Phillies have a current payroll of
$146M for 2011.
They owe Blanton $21M (10.5 per) for the next 2 years. Oswalt has a $16M option for 2012 that he can opt out of at the end of 2011.
I don’t see how it all fits. Unless they think Oswalt is gone after next year.
lol this is funny:
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
/wrong thread
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Lee was a HUGE pickup for Philly
I was really surprised that he didn’t end up a Yankee. Especially since the offer was for 7 years. Now I can see Philly getting very solid production over 5 years from Lee. He is now putting himself in a position to make way less money over his career by not taking advantage of the length that NY offered. He must have really preferred playing in Philly, which surprises me that they lucked out with two top notch pitchers willing to take less to play there. Does anyone have any insight as to why that might be? Citizens is a hitters park and will certainly not do a pitcher any favors from a statistical standpoint. I’m at a loss when trying to conjure up logical reasoning behind wanting to play there, especially as a pitcher. With that being said I think that PHI has really set themselves up for success. It is going to be very tough for any NL team to be able to compete against that staff and their lineup is no slouch either. Assuming Hall is a Dodger, how would you rank the top 5 NL teams on paper?
1. Phillies
2. Dodgers (I’m totally biased)
3. Cardinals
4. Gnats
5. Braves
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