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Russell Martin Escapes To New York; Vicente Padilla's Contract Incentives Revealed

Russell Martin is now officially gone, as he has signed a one-year contract with the New York Yankees. The financial details are not yet known, but if I had to guess, I think the deal is less than the $5 million Martin was seeking with the Dodgers. The Yankees and Dodgers were working on a deal for Martin in the days leading up to the non-tender deadline, which reportedly involved catcher Francisco Cervelli coming to Los Angeles, per the New York Times. That deal fell through, which leads me to believe the Yankees didn't want to pay Martin the $5.5 to $6 million he would have likely received in salary arbitration. Or perhaps they had strong feelings that the Dodgers were inclined to non-tender Martin anyway, so the Yankees didn't want to give up a player for someone they could simply sign on the free agent market.

Either way, good luck in the Bronx, Russ. You will be missed.

*****

The full performance bonus details of Vicente Padilla's contract have been revealed, thanks to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. In addition to his $2 million base salary, Padilla can earn up to $6.8 million in relief incentives, or up to $8 (or $9) million in starting incentives:

Relief Incentives

  • $250,000 for each of 40 and 50 relief appearances
  • $500,000 for each of 60, 70, and 80 relief appearances (there have been five Dodgers to pitch 80 games since 2000)
  • $750,000 for each of 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, and 55 games finished
  • $150,000 for each of 35 and 45 games in "which he enters games with the Dodgers leading by three or fewer runs" (this is by far my favorite Dodger performance bonus to date)

Starting Incentives

  • $1 million for 12 starts and 70 innings pitched as a starter*
  • $1 million for each of 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, and 33 starts

*I'm not sure if Padilla gets $1 million for 12 starts and $1 million for 70 innings as a starter, or if it is just $1 million combined for hitting both. If it is indeed $1 million for each, Padilla would have a potential for $9 million in starting bonuses, instead of $8 million.

Gurnick also notes all the incentives for Padilla are deferred without interest, to an unspecified date.

Tying this all together, Paul Quantrill, who had two of the five 80-games-pitched seasons since 2000 for the Dodgers, was also the last Dodger free agent to sign with the Yankees, when Quantrill did so after 2003.

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Plus more speculation that Doumit will be moved. Really would’ve liked having him.

by OB12 on Dec 14, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry

We can trade Sands for him in July, when Barajas is on the DL and we are 6 games out of 1st.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Shwwooo, I was worried there for a second.

by OB12 on Dec 14, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

By then.....

You’ll be a Giants fan?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

??

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory

At exactly halfway through the season (81 games), after his 39th relief appearance (fewer than 30 of which were games finished, and fewer than 35 in which he entered with a lead of 3 or fewer runs), Padilla finds he is needed in the rotation.

Padilla remains in the rotation for the rest of the season, as the fifth starter. He pitches at each opportunity that he is called to do so, but is skipped twice (as teams do with their fifth starters). He makes 14 starts.

The Dodgers would owe him $2 million base, +$1m for the 12 starts, plus maybe the $1 more for 70 IP depending on how that clause reads.

$3 or $4 million for all of that? That is a bargain.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

The best you’ve ever had?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Now I can’t get that song out of my head. Thanks.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That it’s 39 relief appearances and 14 starts from Vicente Padilla makes it a more fair value.

But yeah, this does seem to lend itself to abuse.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It has been done

not many times but twice last year, and it looks like the pitchers for the most part had a good year.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I always feared the day our young core would become free agents and sign with the Yanks. Didn’t think it would happen quite this way though.

by guy clinch on Dec 14, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

what a way to go, dying in a fake world because some jackass wants to taste steak

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Next time someone drops dead suddenly of a stroke, I will just assume Joey Pants pulled the plug.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

My friend said it best

I think the about only thing I will miss about Russell Martin is his cool saxophone playing father.

Taylor Morgan: "My abortion was botched!"
Teemu Selanne: "Wow. That sounds awesome."

by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 14, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

The only Dodger ever

to reach the upper limit of Padilla’s incentives (80 games in relief and 55 games finished) was Mike Marshall in his herculean 1974 season, when he had 106 games in relief, and 83 games finished!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Mike Marshall

thinks every pitcher in the league is a pussy.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 14, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, compared to him, they are!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that your other nickname

or are you more of a Ford Fiesta kind of guy?

by Greg Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

you like bad boys too?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

depends on the level, leather jacket sure, but I stop at tattoo one. Cause it never stops at tattoo one, and that’s $200 coulda been spent on like 4 fancy dinners

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

or shoes. Amirite, keith?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean J. Edgar Hoover.

But he’s not Herbert, either.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Humma and I

know our famous cross-dressers.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He isn’t a J. Edgar Hoover either.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad y’all are on top of what menfolk are wearin lady garb

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not really Southern. It’s more western-via-Whedon. Was that your intention?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I love bad boys. Give me some tattoos and some piercings and it’s on.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I fold.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I look at that as neo-tribalism

not being “bad”

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Madds seems to equate egotism with being bad

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it depend on the tat?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

like a tribal tattoo versus a big breasted female

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Which one is the bad one here?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

if your Mom had a tattoo

that said “Son”, that’s more impressive to me

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe

I do like smart people, and they all tend to be assholes, so.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Reg ain't so bad

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And you and I ain’t that smart.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

that we are not smart enough to be assholes.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if they’re insufferable, no, I don’t tend to hang around them. But I like people who are sarcastic and funny. Like Reg. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well thank you.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hurt for your dad.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

But the thing is

is that no self respecting bad boy would go anywhere NEAR me. I’m like a non-object to them. I wear sweatpants in public for Chrissakes.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

A notch is a notch said the bad boy to the spider

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I must not give off that particular vibe to them.

Though I guess Billz Hating Ex was kinda in that mold, though he was actually just a huge geek with lots of tattoos.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

HA

I have a good friend who has one tattoo’d on his shoulder. He is also very cute.

No, no SW related tats for B.H.E.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I have never dumped a girl for hating my favorite player……..
Now I’ve dumped a few who mentioned liking the Yankees or Giants!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I dumped him for more concrete reasons like

not being in love with me anymore, or being attracted to me.

Hating Billz was just icing on the GFY cake.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I owned a Fiesta

First car I ever owned. I called it the Fiasco.

But it was a great car, really.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my mom's car.

Brand new in 1981. But she got a new car in 1987, saving me the indiginity of driving that beast when I turned 16 in 1990.

I eventually got that new car — a beige (but really pinkish-brown) Mercury Sable.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

i just watched the first 5 minutes last night. I think I will squeeze it in Thursday.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That was really good. Eric Dickerson really is stubborn talking about any benefits he received.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually thought Dickerson came off looking great. Just really funny and (other than not talking about the benefits) a pretty honest guy. He hinted that he received benefits. But the story about him telling the Texas coach GFY and telling the recruit he would beat his ass was great.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he had great interviews in that doc. That might have been my favorite 30 for 30.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

so it was better than The U?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so

I did really like that one though, too.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely. I didn’t the U was that good. It just kind of haphazardly went from story to story.

This one was more like a movie with a central story, like the Escobar one.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I never saw the Escobar one, but have heard nothing but good things.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

it is on TW on demand

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll check when I get home. I have Charter.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the one to compare the SMU one two. Those were my two favorites by a long shot.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i hated how Ice Cube did the LA Raider one.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I never saw that one, and it sounds like I’m glad I didn’t.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It is worth it

just for the intense closeups during the Al Davis segments.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i sawr it

But I guess not really knowing much about the LA Raiders I can’t really make a judgement. It did remind me of when I was younger and my Mother refusing to buy Raider gear for my older brother and half-brother because she was convinced they would be shot by gang-bangers because of it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He made it seem like the raiders went 0-16 every year from 84 until they left.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

your story is convoluted. they never once had a blackout lifted.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I said try, I didn’t say they succeeded in lifting said blackouts

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I still never saw that one.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything with Luke is a winner. Except his VH1 reality show

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

TransA&M was pretty funny, too.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

The boosters and dirty assistant coaches were pretty funny.

“I feel like I have to go to A & M because of the car.”

“The fuck you do. Keep the car and come to SMU.”

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

They were great!

And the TV news footage of the university exec lying about sending the linebacker anything at all, then getting presented with the envelope and letter was classic. I bet Geraldo Rivera got a boner watching that part.

Also, the footage of the other college coaches and recruiters swarming SMU on the day of the death penalty announcement was awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Saw a bit of the Marcus Dupree 30 for 30

on a restaurant TV over the w/e. There were some over-the-top recruiting stories in there, but the note that got me was that because Mississippi integrated their public schools in 1970, Dupree’s class was the first in his town to have been in solely integrated classes. I remember when he was supposed to be the next big thing at Oklahoma, and his brief tenure with the Rams after coming back from a knee injury.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i really liked that one. His high school footage was fucking amazing. I have seen a lot of men vs. boys RB’s in HS football the last 15 years, but nothing like him.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw some of that footage and I agree on its amazing-ness. Just ridiculous.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed that one as well, due to a recording snafu (I think I was recording two other things during the second hour). I was looking forward to that one.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It still has three showings scheduled.
http://30for30.espn.com/film/the-best-that-never-was.html

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent. The scumbag “advisor” reverand from Mississippi State comes off as a real skank.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw half of it

hopefully i can see the rest on demand, it was very interesting.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched that as well and I agree. I’m definitely not an ESPN fan but they’ve had some really good ones in this series. The “Guru of Go” was outstanding, as was the Marcus Dupree one.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Per Yahoo:

• RHP Zack Greinke(notes) wouldn’t appear to be a fit for the Dodgers with so many starting pitchers on the roster already. But the Dodgers contacted the Royals about the former Cy Young award winner, who will likely be traded this winter, because he’s such a difference-maker. Talks went nowhere because the Dodgers don’t have the prospects the Royals are seeking.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

This is my surprised face

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

But but Jerry Sands.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

can this greinke story just end already?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

“Talks went nowhere” is a good place to stop.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Zach Lee could be that guy

but he can’t be dealt until the next off-season.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Lee can be dealt as soon as August 16 (one year after he signed). Not that he will be dealt, of course.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but he wouldn’t clear waivers.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s not on the 40-man, and doesn’t have to clear waivers.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

he wouldn’t be on the 40 man roster so he wouldn’t have to clear waivers.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Greinke to the Dodgers can end, but I suspect we will hear about him going to the Yankees all winter.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

“OK, KC, you drive a hard bargain. You can have Sands AND Travyon! Please ship the Greinke to Dodger Stadium, 1000 Elysian….. Hello? Hello…? Hey, Logan, he’s stunned. Too stunned to speak that we offered both Sands AND Robinson. Do you think we overpaid?”

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Moving Chad is the only way that works, no thanks.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe someone already mentioned this but.....

I wonder how the public address announcer at Dodger Stadium feels about Rrruuuusell Maartin’s departure? Not many guys on the roster who have the perfect name for announcing an at bat. Jaaames LOwney just doesn’t have that natural growl to it that Rruuuusell Maartin does. Peace out Russ. I now must hate you for being on the Yankees.

by Ian Capilouto on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

He let go of Jayson Werth, he can learn to love again.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

If all else fails, we can put Jason Grabowski back on the roster.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrussell Mmmmmmmmmitchell!

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Kyyyyyyyyyyyyle Rrrrrrrrrrrussell!

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

he made it!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically anyone with an R in their name followed by a vowel.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

So apparently this is happening tomorrow
Following (private) detailed presentations to AEG and ICON Venue Group (Owners Representative firm) by the three architectural firms selected to submit proposals to design the L.A. Event Center, a media briefing and update will take place.

The email is super cryptic, but I’m guess the Event Center includes football stadium plans? I have no idea really

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

It will be exciting to add this to the list of failures
Irwindale
Carson
Hollywood Park
Dodger Stadium
DTLA One
“Renovated Coliseum”
Industry
DTLA Two

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I kinda wanna go to the presser now, just to so I was there at the beginning of the end

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the presentations are about the new 7th and Fig, not anything to do with the stadium.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They changing 7th/Fig

that is my Staples Metro stop

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

they are basically blowing up the mall. and redoing the wilshire grand

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We should buy a TBLA Loft overlooking LA Live

where we do podcasts, parties, and all those things rich young attractive people do in lofts even though most of you are neither rich, attractive, or young.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll settle for 2 out of the 3

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re loaded?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

relatively to others my age?

perhaps

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn!!!

0 for 3!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

But he’s my age, and that mean’s I’m too old for Scarlett. I can’t accept that.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh. She ain’t shit.

I think I’m more attracted to Reynolds than her.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Is her, uh,

nose too big for you or something?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Her nose used to bother me

I got over it

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

her smile is kinda weird, but you could balance your checkbook on those breasts

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't get it

What is wrong with her smile?

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It isn't

being sent my way.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

she just always looks like she’s faking it to me, like I think her natural state is meant to be completely serious all the time

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well she is posing for a picture…

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s that northern european, long dark winter days thing. So serious.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

she can fake all she wants.

i’ll just get it out of the way.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

All I heard was Michael White saying

I hate attractive women.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s within the formula for him, is he not? The age gap is only 8 years.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you are an actor / actress / wealthy

then you can throw the formula out the window.

My guess is that the formula was created by woman over 35.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Half plus seven

He’s 34, so 17+7 = 24, meaning Reynolds can date anyone 24 or older. She’s 26. It works.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

She has done a lot already for a 26 year old. I thought she was older for some reason.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Same

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I just

figured they were the same age. She is only 26? Wow!!

Maybe my favorite actress beauty wise.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

So starting at 46

it is 30 and up, eh?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

According to science, yes. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

as one gets older, the gap gets wider. This is sciences way of ensuring that those who fall through the cracks in their own generation don’t get left behind

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

as one gets older, the gap gets wider

This will be on the sleeve of the TBLA t-shirt.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Mind the gap.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

One could misinterpret

such a thing

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My range goes down to 32
That seems right. Hitting on 20-somethings would seem pretty skeevy, if I were out hitting on women that is.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I can go all the way down to 23, which would be pretty awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz and Josie take note.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t date my boss, that’s how movie plots start

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news, you’re fired!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

this is the part of the movie where I become Catwoman, I presume

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The watchable kind, though, yes.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Meeee-yow.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You would voice her like Eartha Kitt, right?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

WHO THE HELL IS EARTHA KITT?!

YOU ARE ASKING WHO THE HELL IS EARTHA KITT?!

SERIOUSLY?!?!

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear god, the young’uns.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I know who Eartha Kitt is. She’s hot.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

she may not have been sent to hell.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Eartha Kitt as Catwoman

in the last season of the Batman TV series.

This is not what she should be most famous for, but it is her poppiest pop-culture reference. Given that there is supposed to be sexual tension between Batman and Catwoman, recasting Eartha Kitt as the villainess in the late 1960s was a pretty gutty move by ABC.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Coincidentally, Reynolds can date anyone from 24 to 54, while Johansson can date anyone from 20 to 38.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit to Phil that

I was wrong to comment about Hazel Mae’s age yesterday. She remains gross, but Lucero is 41, and I have had a serious crush on her about a year now.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It is apparently red dress day at TBLA.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's a two-fer

Although I hate the shapeless dress Zooey is wearing.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

huh, for two people who never work together, the Deschanel sisters sure have a bunch of photo shoots together

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s the only time I know of them being on film together

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They should totally do a movie

where these sweet as sauce sisters are in reality sisters from hell.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That could be the title - Sisters: From Hell

In a world where little girls are made of sugar and spice, these girls don’t play nice. Coming this winter

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Josie -

You really should do movie promos – not reviews.

There’s a lot more room to be creative.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

hey I’m only on the critical side til creative swoops me up

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to make up for that

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe Mila

has killed more people in movies then anyone in history. She will always be a fave of mine because of the 5th Dimension.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Up, Up And Blow You Away?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha

Now I get what David wrote

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not know this person

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon tweeted that she is the star of the most popular TV show in the US today.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know they were married!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He was too busy

recovering from the Russell Brand/Katy Perry nuptials.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A film blogger colleague of mine just commented on that
Dear Ryan Reynolds, you’re handsome and all, but you’ll never do better. Whatever you did, it was your fault. You poor dolt. Love, Scott.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

they were never really seen together

except at the gym. And I would totally love to see Ryan Reynolds’ 6 pack for myself…with my mouth. /fans self

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Daddz Maddz

loves this stuff

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This story sucks

and makes me thankful we never have to drive in shitty weather conditions in SoCal. Yankee blogger Steven Smith died yesterday in a car accident in New Jersey. His car slid off the road, down an embankment, along with another car. Smith got out to check on the damages to his car, but when he was out he was struck by another car. That really, really sucks.

I’m not sure what blog he wrote for, but I have seen his posts on Twitter, and was known enough that a few Yankee beat writers acknowledged his death on Twitter today. Sad story.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

wow, how sad

my condolences to his family and friends.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Driving on ice

sucks.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That ending sucked

but it is confusing. If he slid down an embankment, how could another car hit him?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the other car

slid down the same embankment I imagine

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess it was onto another road. I’m not sure.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

For Robotmadeofnails (late comment, last thread)

Halladay is signed through 2013, with a vesting option for $20 million for 2014.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks

For some reason I thought that was a two year deal

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers put out a holiday greeting, which is pretty lame (and it seems most MLB teams have done similar ones today), but hey there is Kershaw footage, so enjoy.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

good luck, J-Mart

I hope he does well enough to win enough to win those brutal fans over, but not so well that we end up screaming for years how Ned sold low yet again. (“Sold” in this case being a huge understatement, seeing how we didn’t actually get anything in return for him.) But honestly, better to see him revive his career in New York than Colorado.

by sarcastro9 on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

They made a fair offer to him. I’m not interested in putting any blame on Ned.

This isn’t even in the conversation with selling low on JMac.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely agree with you on J-Mac

And yeah, the offer to Martin was fair. But seeing how Plan B ended up being to overpay Barajas instead, they mine as well have just given in to Martin’s demands for a year, and seen what came of it, IMO.

by sarcastro9 on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned is rightfully concerned

about whether or not Martin will be ready for opening day. Even if he signed Martin, he still needed another workable catching option.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Festivus lives!
An Orange County jail inmate caused a stir this year by successfully claiming the fictitious holiday Festivus, made famous on the television show "Seinfeld," as part of his religious beliefs to score better meals.

Malcolm Alarmo King, 38, enjoyed "a high protein no salami diet 3 times per day for ‘Festivism’" according to a court order by Orange County Superior Court Judge Derek G. Johnson.

King, who was serving a one-year sentence at Theo Lacy Jail for a drug offense, also got the judge to sign off on double portions of kosher meals three times a day in a bizarre arrangement first reported by the Orange County Register.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/12/oc-inmate-claims-religious-ties-to-festivus-to-score-better-food.html

by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

And what's the deal with New England?
It’s over 200 years old! Last time I checked, that’s not that new.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That officially deserves some elevator music because of how amazing Mr. King is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da-RjeCObyA

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Any guitarists here with DIY experience?

I recently came across my uncle’s old bass guitar and I’m interested in restoring it to its former glory. Unfortunately, all that’s left of it is the wooden shell: all of the electronics and circuitry have been stripped, along with (obviously) the strings. Does anyone have any idea what I might have to do to fix it up, and how much that might cost? I’d like to avoid taking it to a major music retailer (i.e. Guitar Center, Sam Ash) for as long as possible, seeing as how they have a tendency to overcharge for any and everything.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

If you don't know what you are doing.

Take it to a pro. I wouldn’t take it to a box store no matter what unless that is your only option. You should be able to find a local luthier to take a look at it. But if the neck looks straight and the finish is still in good shape you could try to install new electronics yourself. If you know how to solder well. Any pickups you buy should have wiring diagrams. Some basses can have pretty complicated electronics though. And stringing is quite easy. I would say at the least take it to a local luthier/guitar shop to have it checked out. They could at least tell you what if anything is wrong with it. And get you on the right path to get the correct electronics. Do you know how long it’s it’s been without strings? and how it’s been stored ie( in a home, in an uninsulated garage/storage, in a case, or just laying around.) Humidity and temperature can have a huge effect on a guitar or bass.

by CTBMikeD on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the suggestion

This place looks perfect…I may go grab it and get a quote today. Not too far away from work or home.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

good guy, Eric. Been going there for tune ups for years

by megaballs on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Just remember Tomas

for every question that gets answered here, Eric gets a buck.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds to me

like easy money for Eric. :)

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

didn’t see this. Ha

by CTBMikeD on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What a crappy day to be a New Yorker

To lose out on the Lee race like that and then to get Russell Martin as a consolation prize.

That’s like if Dodgers were in the race to get a top tier FA like Lee, but instead got Russell Martin as a consolation prize.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

when was the last time that happened? Kevin Brown?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Schmidt, Manny Ramirez…

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

well we weren’t really bidding against anyone for Manny though

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Andrew Jones count, or was that a gag prize?

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

In the end, gagging was involved.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

His down year dropped him down a peg, but he was still heavily sought.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The only player I know of that......

Lives up to David Letterman’s “Fat Tub Of Goo” description.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

just always feels that way when you are dealing with Boras.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the question?

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

the last time the Dodgers were bidders for the tip top free agent of the season

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Furcal?

He was the top shortstop of the offseason anyway.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

According to Bill Plaschke the last time the Dodgers did that was Don Drysdale

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Then Raul Mondasi threaten to kill Bill’s children

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Comparing the numbers for the past two seasons

Andruw Jones > Bill Hall?

LF?

Why not?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahhahahahahahaha
no kidding….

by megaballs on Dec 14, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

from 20,000 to 1.5 Million. I hope he did it alone and has no friends or family that he likes to brag to.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

but he stole chips…how is he going to turn those into money?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Carefully:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

strippers.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

laundering money through sex workers. never would have thought of that.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

give the coins to the strippers, a few hundred bucks at a time, give them a cut, have them cash their chips and give you your 90% or whatever.

It was in 21.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Also not a bright way to go about not getting caught

A whore is a a whore, they would turn you in before you could blink. Money will talk. It always does.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently

he stole chips ranging from $100 to $25K denominations. I have to believe it will virtually impossible for anyone off the street to cash a $25K chip without being questioned.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

Has anyone here ever seen a 25K chip?

He was daring, now we will see if he is smart enough to not let his ego get in the way of his future.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I am guessing it had to be $100

chips – even at that rate, it will be 150 racks ($10K) worth of chips.

So it will take a while to cash that in, even a $1000 per visit.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

My guess

Would be he would sell the $1.5mm in chips for $1mm in cash or something along those lines… Or hire hookers to do it for him.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It happened before (can’t remember if it was a real story or a movie) so that’s what made me think of it.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I suspect more Dodger fans would want to attempt Reg’s Sheffield bullet theory on Gary than would want him to man LF.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If he goes into the HOF as a Dodger, should we retire his number?

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Gack

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i like to retire numbers

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Strasburg will get his 400 strikeouts in a season before Sheffield enters the HOF with a Dodger cap on his plaque.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sheffield's 2001

How many guys have had a clean 1.000 OPS season?

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Two

Sheff in 2001, and Juan Gonzalez in 1993

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Clean?

Probably neither

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Type in “fall off a cliff” and you’ll probably get some Gonzalez hits.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Or “Why you shouldn’t ever turn down $140 million” :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that was a contract fail

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

even Jody Reed laughs at that one.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

San Diego has more Dodgers numbers retired....

…than the actual Dodgers do. They’ll also get to Fernando before we do.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

13-8 for the 1996 NL West champions!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

how do you figure? winfield, show, gwynn, who else?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s 50% in my book,

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

They have 5 retired numbers

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if you eliminate the players who played the majority or all their career in Brooklyn

By memory Alston, Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, Lasorda. (Brooklyn Dodgers – Reese, Snider, Robinson, Gilliam and Campanella)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

the padres retiring garveys number

would be like the dodgers retiring marlon andersons number

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No way

I mean, it is kind of a joke that they retired Garvey’s number, but he does have the top postseason moment in their franchise history.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

if Marlon Anderson had played in over 600 games instead of 30 and led his team into the World Series by winning the NLCS championship. Other then that good analogy.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Took me a minute to realize that “Robinson” means Jackie. In a sense, that shouldn’t count, since MLB retired that number, not each individual team.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was racking my brain for a Padre Robinson

thanks for getting me back on course.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Randy Jones shouldn't count ethier

Because that means Eric Gange deserves a freakin statue built of him out in autograph alley.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

at least they didn’t retire Mark Davis’ number

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

1989 Cy Young Voting

1 Mark Davis
2 Mike Scott
3 Greg Maddux
4t Orel Hershiser
4t Joe Magrane
6t Tim Belcher
6t Scott Garrelts
8 Rick Reuschel
9 Mike Bielecki
9 Mitch Williams

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier

has no idea who Randy Jones is

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I love how I spelt Either

even in the offseason I can’t get that handsome devil off my mind.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha on Show BTW. Randy Jones is the other SD retired number

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah

I have been to 2 games where a number was retired. Catfish Hunter and Dave Winfield

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave Winfield

still has the most memorable bad throw I’ve ever seen in a World Series.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

When Winfield asked for the ball after his one hit in that series, was that a big deal at the time? I have only seen it via highlight videos. It seemed pretty funny to me, but it sounds like something that would get picked apart every which way today.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As I recall

it was funny at the time but I don’t think anyone was laughing after the series ended. He not only had a terrible series he had terrible ALCS preceeding it. 3 hits in 35 at bats for a guy who might have been the highest paid player in baseball at the time.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

at the time his 10-year 23M contract was the highest in baseball (1981)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a good laugh

I can’t recall if the ABC crew made a lot of jokes about it but it was definitely pointed out.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Toronto really had nobody worth retiring a number for?

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Garth Iorg

just for the name

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I second this idea.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Very interesting

Dave Steib was pretty awesome. And I would think at least Roberto Alomar from the two-time champs would be retired.

I bet they retire Cito Gaston’s number eventually.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Carter

really was not that great either.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Joe Carter stat came with the Padres

in 1990, he hit .232/.290/.391, yet drove in 115 runs (3rd in the NL, seven off the lead), mostly because he batted fourth or fifth, with these guys in front of him:

Bip Roberts (.375 OBP)
Tony Gwynn (.357 OBP)
Roberto Alomar (.340 OBP)
Jack Clark (.441 OBP)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

441?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Clark was as awesome as he was an asshole (and a piano connoisseur)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I remember

Joe Carter being written about as a mentor for the young Matt Kemp since they’re both from the same area.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That's incredible

and probably fooled 18 year-old me into thinking he was an elite run producer.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Someone did a list of worst 100 RBI seasons at one point, and the top was almost all Joe Carter and Eric Karros.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Carlos Delgado people!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Olerud

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Mitch Williams

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW here are the combined 2010 numbers of what is now the Big Four in Philly

Doc-CLee-Oswalt-Hamels (in 2010): 126 starts, 883 1/3 IP, 2.84 ERA, ~142 ERA+ (I think I figured it right)
Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz-Neagle (97): 135 starts, 962 IP, 2.80 ERA, 149 ERA+

If those four can replicate their 2010, that will stack up quite nicely with those 1997 Braves.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Oswalt

gets my vote to screw the pooch

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

5 man pitching staff

Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Neagle, Wohlers.

a la ballgame.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish Pettite would just friggin retire already

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Not yet on Pettite

We need another long reliever

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

How many offseasons has he done this dance? 4 now?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

not nearly as bad

but still annoying

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Just saw the Dodgers Holiday Greeting....

Underwhelming

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

just like the season

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Now This Is A Headline

FIFA president: Homosexuals should ‘refrain from sexual activities’ at 2022 World Cup

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

So glad

the cup will be in Qatar. Soooooooooooo glad.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll be 34ish then, I know for a fact that won’t be on my mind..

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

No way in hell does the World Cup play in Qatar in 2022.

by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

not covered but should also watch their back:
interracial couples
inter-religious couples
short people

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

GD

always picking on the short people.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

women wearing less than 100 square feet of clothing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I swear, in twelve years from now when I’m covering that world cup for the LA Times, I’m gonna need a popemobile to get around

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

LATimes.com of course. Imagine, print journalism in twelve years!

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you have a better shot covering that for a website

like SBN since I think it would economically unfeasible for an individual newspaper to cover the World Cup in 2022.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

In twelve years

you won’t need to physically be present for any of it. The level of public and media access is going to be so intrusive you’ll be able to do anything you like.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Brett Favre will be sending holograms . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

There will always be need for writers

especially for the web.

It’s still determining how to make money without large commercial ads or classifieds like the old school newspapers used to do it, that is making it hard to figure the next steps.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure it’s that and the fact that internet ads are still considered a subset, some of the print money is divested to blogs, some of the tv money is divested to sites like hulu, but the focus is still on print and tv

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope in the future...

…virtual reality makes its comback

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

left handed people

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

How many times was Ted Williams intentionally walked? BB-Ref has limited info on this.

What’s the record for unintentional walks in a season?

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

B-Ref has him at 110 unintentional.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I see 112 unintentional in 2004

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably that.

Eddie Yost as far as I can tell has the record with 142.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds had 142 in 2001

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yost in 56: .231/.412/.336. That rules so hard.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yost, Eddie Joost, and Ferris Fain are my favorite walking guys of that era.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, only one of them, Yost, has the nickname The Walking Man.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought Ferris Fain was a made up name

I’m still not sure he really existed.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ted’s 1947 or 49 could be the record (162), but we don’t have the IBB numbers.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Present day Dodgers need Eddie Yost badly.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He's still alive

I have to think even at 85 he can walk 60 times in a full season.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

We can send Velez in to pinch run for him. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

are walkers allowed

on the field?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

“Nope” – Ned Colletti

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

beat me by 2 secs

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man

I am a dope. I read his 41 strikeouts (the next column) as his IBB. Whoops.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet Bonds still has it

of course many of those unintentional walks where players simply pitching around him in the vain hope he would swing at a bad pitch.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So how’s that $30M Randy Wolf deal looking right now?

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

NFL Draft news

 insidetroy
#USC DT Jurrell Casey and OT Tyron Smith will enter the NFL draft.

Soon Akeem Ayers and Rahim Moore from UCLA will make similar announcements.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

never saw two kids go backwards like Ayers and Moore did. So much promise.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Ayers still made

2nd team All-American, apparently he played with Turf toe since the Texas game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

z

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

I am an Ilgauskas fan. There, I said it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

would you pick up the phone right away or wait until after the fifth ring?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Z Channel?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a great documentary

saw it on IFC in 05 I believe

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ironically, I (my parents) didn’t buy the Z channel and I don’t get IFC.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad

I lived through the Z Channel years. The leap from Z Channel to Netflix entertainment wise is beyond imagination.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That and

On TV.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I would welcome a new Z channel

Like this:

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Being Zooey Deschanel

I’d watch it

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

What is with all the Zooey love?

She is very average looking. Is it the personality?

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged

Watch it – I have moderator powers!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You keep using that word

I do not think it means what you think it means.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To be honest...

I liked fall better than summer, and I only knew fall for like 2 seconds.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

or spring? I dont even remember what he name was. But yeah I’m not down with the zooey love.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

he?

Give me a break, I’m procrastinating from doing finals

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Also flagged

Minka Kelly was “Autumn”.

The eyes are definitely part of it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Martin’s escape to NY include the ‘Jodie Reed’?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 14, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

The Dioner Navarro deal is official.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Quote
"We know Dioner well from his previous stint in Los Angeles and we are comfortable with how he handles a pitching staff," said Colletti. "He’s a solid Major League catcher and we’re looking forward to his contributions behind the plate next season."

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No grit or ring in the box for this one.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

true story

i was looking up the trailer for an interesting movie and typed in “jamey carroll” into the search bar. this is what came up

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810153253/info

maybe its not a “true” story, but it might as well be

by raj m on Dec 14, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

His previous team benched his butt after two years of bad offense.

by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

When Ned Colletti has trouble finding something positive to say about you, you might actually suck.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That seriously made me laugh out loud. I thought Ned was going to go all Isaac Newton on me for a second.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s the damage?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

his bat

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by Pure Azure on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

about two negative wins

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the White Sox are the only team that includes salary figures in their press releases.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeremy Accardo will not be in LA, as he has signed with Baltimore.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

OK, this is awesome (about Navarro)...I had no idea
in 2006, he became the first catcher in Major League history to start and finish a triple play, this one of the "2-6-2" variety.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

"First"

but not “only”? Someone has done it since?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

According to this website

http://tripleplays.sabr.org/tp_combo.htm

No, it hadn’t been done before and hasn’t been done since (2-6-2). Apparently, there was also an instance of a 2-3-2 triple play, but I can’t find a mention of it yet.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

So what is that, strike out, catch a guy stealing second, catch a delayed steal at home?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

On September 2, 2006, in the first inning against Seattle:

Triple Play: Strikeout Looking, Beltre Caught Stealing 2B (C-SS); Lopez out at Hm/SS-C

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

TOOTBLAN?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Raul Ibañez was the batter BTW

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

men on first and third, nobody out, x is at the plate. X stikes out swinging, but 2 drops the ball. He goes to tag out x, but nobody is covering 2nd so Y takes off. 6 comes over to take the throw tagging out the runner at second, z takes off on the throw trying to steal home! The throw back to the plate….and he’s out!

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

For Delia, from Fox Soccer

Newsweek/MSNBC’s @jonathanalter reporting that Qatar paid $10m for EACH World Cup vote

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

shocked

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna believe what he says, cause he writes for Newsweek, and I’m also going to believe that this means USA WC in 2022, or there is not God/Justice

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Like Fifa would ever fess up

and rectify it even if there where a billion smoking guns

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I read that Grondona got 80m for his. Thought that number was outrageous.

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

the other part of this is that the bribe is legal

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Another quote from the press release
Navarro has always worn No. 30 in honor of Sept. 30, 2003, the day his wife was expected to pass away, according to the doctors.

It doesn’t say he will wear #30 with the Dodgers though (which is assigned to Lopes per the infamous whiteboard).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

Is that sentence grammatically wrong? I’m sure doctors didn’t report that Navarro always wore 30.

I speculated on this number thing when he was signed – it’s in his wikipedia! Coaches give up numbers to players all the time; I bet Lopes switches.

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

that second comma shouldn’t be there, but folk start writing a second clause and they forget they’re working on a sentence….as I almost did in my own example

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s what I thought.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the end of a sentence. I parsed it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think it will matter what came before “Navarro”.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right

and looking back, that is the complete sentence.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

30 what?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Given that the Yankees didn't get to blow a big wad

of cash on Cliff Lee, how much are they going to sign Albert Pujols for, $30M/season? Yeah, they have Tex – one can DH. Maybe Albert can still play LF.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Makes sense. Biggest contract ever goes to team with largest payroll.
He could definitely play LF. If his arm is still in question (surgery done), he should just DH.

by megaballs on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i would be more pissed at that

then with Lee going there.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Ethier attended

AZ Central also noted that employees of Go Daddy Group Inc. enjoyed a lavish holiday party this year. The $4 million bash included 6,000 employees and took place at Chase Field on Saturday night.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

mmm, threesome with Andre and Danica Patrick

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Danica Patrick

is very meh despite all of Go Daddy’s attempts to make me regard her as a sex symbol.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

She belongs in an Acura commercial

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you reffering

to her being a b word? Maybe a c word?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

or just acting entitled?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Give me Candace Michelle any day over Danica.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say no to Danica

Beggars can’t be choosers.

I guess I would have to take that same option with Ethier too. I don’t think I would enjoy it but hey I don’t have room to be picky.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

she'll

be in her bunk.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ken Gurnick's Twitter for iPhone delay strikes again!
Tony Gwynn’s signing is now official. Check dodges.com for more

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

dodges.com

leads to the question: what, exactly, did the Dodgers dodge by signing Gwynn?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Rotoworld says Navarro’s deal is for $1M, but doesn’t cite a source.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Rotoworld

citing Bleacher Report since 2008.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Phillips on Fanhouse had the $1 million figure, last Wednesday.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Very nice of them to skip over 2005.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it really too hard to find a writer

who actually covers the Dodgers in their blog.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

2005 gets what it deserved
Identity No. 4: Enter the McCourts (Early to mid-2000s):
The McCourts bought the team prior to the 2004 season … blah blah blah 2004 playoffs…. By the end of the next year, manager Jim Tracy was gone and the team looked almost totally different.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting take on Joe Torre. I’m still not sure what to think. For every good there seems to be a bad. Those back-to-back NLCS appearances are hard to ignore, but was he really the best fit for this organization? Maybe someday someone will write a book on the Torre/Colletti years . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Torre would look terrible if instead of 2008 being an NLCS appearance, you call it an 84 win season.

The 2007 Dodgers won 82 games, Grady Little got fired. The 2008 Dodgers were basically the same team, except they made the greatest trade deadline acquisition of all time. They won 84 games. How much can you attribute to Torre.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Very little

But he did provide a nice even keel presence on a team that came a couple Broxton fastballs away from playing in the World Series. I personally will never forgive him for how he handled Bills. We’ll see what Mattingly can do next . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Torre was the right guy for those teams, then again

I am not one to complain about Torre’s usage of the bullpen and he did sit Pierre for the first game of the 2008 season.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And the friction between veterans and young players that Torre gets so much credit for healing was kind of working its way out in 2008 anyway. The young players had proven that they were legit MLB players and there were fewer obviously crap vets signed to block them (Luis Gonzalez).

by guy clinch on Dec 14, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Luis Gonzalez

put up a .793 OPS (104 OPS+) for LA that one year, or .033 better than Matt Kemp (107 OPS+) last year.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we talking about 2007? The beef was not with Gonzalez. It was with Pierre.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Gonzalez had the issue about playing time

since it was for a while Ethier, Kemp and Gonzalez but for some of us who followed the team, the issue was why do they have to keep playing Pierre, is it just because of his consecutive game streak.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I should have checked his stats before calling him crap! But my point was that a lot of the issues regarding playing time and the veterans vs youth seemed to be working themselves out in Torre’s first year as players had carved out roles by then.

by guy clinch on Dec 14, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

at Left field while taking away playing time from Kemp and Ethier. It was a depth signing that cost the team $7 million. Unnecessary move that caused problems.

by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

you know I agree with you. I was just debating the “crap” adjective.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see why its ‘crap’ though because by that time, Luis Gonzalez was also playing atrocious defense.

by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They weren’t gonna hand a job to a guy who hit .202/.233/.275 after June 15th the previous year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

you really need to stop putting the words ‘hand’ and ‘job’ so close to each other.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemp didn’t deserve one of those after June 15th either.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

lies damn lies

and the truth

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally looking forward to the 7th identity

Because this 6th one is a decaying corpse that Ned is trying to necromanticize.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If that’s not the word of the day, I quit this blog.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Mort heard the Shanahan might start Rex Grossman this week. That is just ludicrous.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

I believe the word you were looking for is “awesome.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Easily the best rapper today.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

A few years back he was in a movie I was working on. I was in the office of the guy putting together the Electronic Press Kit — video soundbites, that kind of thing.

So he’s on screen and he says something about the movie. I say to the guy editing the soundbite, in a loud, can-you-believe-he-said-that voice, “Oh, come on. That’s Ludacris!”

He laughed for about three weeks. I was pretty proud of that.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

good story

Hey Humma—I never asked you. Do you like “Modern Romance”? I swear, that scene where they’re dubbing the sound absolutely kills me every time I see it . . .

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Believe it or not, never seen Modern Romance.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yes!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

seriously

this suzy kolber article cracks me up every time http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck it

I’m going deep would actually be a GREAT slogan for the Dodgers this year.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

open question

who do the Dodgers put on the cover of the media guide this year?

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Rex Grossman

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Kershaw in a landslide

or maybe the whole six man rotation

or maybe
Kuo/Broxton/Jansen

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Only trust the finger test

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

ha

Remember to use someone else’s.

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have a cat nearby to test the oil?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You should probably never eat at my house again

I cannot guarantee my wife will not poison you.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I have actually never eaten at your house. Stayed overnight twice (I think it was twice), but no food was consumed.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re saying you slept straight through then?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That looks poorly for us

did we not offer you food?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It was timing both times

We got back super late from games, and once we went out to breakfast Sunday morning, and the other time I left early to get to Dodger Stadium.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Thermometer is the only safe way. It can bubble at under 350.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

in order from the top

fuck you, fuck you, reg you’re cool, but there’s no way I’m getting “put a thermometer in” close to that oil

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Make you get the thermonmeter wet with water

before dipping it, into the oil. That is always fun.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

How much oil are we talking?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

like a centimeter in a 10" diameter pan with 5" sides

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice use of the metric and american measurement system in one sentence.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news

The metric system is thriving in America’s inner cities. /onion

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

according to congress it already happened, we’re metric

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

in for a penny, in for a kilo?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the funny part is: in for a penny, in for a pound refers to money and not weight measurement

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

then that should be ‘pence’

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

pence is plural for penny, but thanks for playing : p

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

no consolation prize?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

there goes my 4.0 avg.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

take some ap classes

anything below 4.3 won’t even get you a look from the best schools these days

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

buck up kid, no one gets into Harvard anyhow

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on

you were a 2.4 just like me who did the bear minimum.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you’re smarter than the average bear : )

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like George Bernard Shaw said..

about the British and Americans : “We are two peoples separated by a common language.”

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You should be safe with a cooking thermometer, wear gloves and goggles if you’re really concerned.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t those thermometers pretty long? Hold it with a pair of long, padded tongs?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

lol
Make Granick the closer
by Xeifrank on Jun 28, 2010 8:00 AM PDT

by kinbote on Dec 14, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Did the GFY comment get deleted from that thread?

I loved Phil being the voice of reason.

Broxton got worse, but for none of the reasons bearface outlined.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That was in a front page thread.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

you got your first rec.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

sure did

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember my first rec

I slept like a baby

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I know bearface is already banned

but fuck you again, dick. Here is a quote on his profile page:

I like the Dodgers. So much so that I want them to win the World Series at any cost. Unfortunately, some Dodger fans would rather talk about how great Ethier’s OPS+ is or Kershaws great K/9.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAH that is funny.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard

that Kershaw calls his member the K9

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly

in the end Broxton did implode and all our arguments against the BearFace fan post while right at the time, look pointless now.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

So

The Return of the Bearface?

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If he’s not a petulant child, sure.

No offense, IVdown. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If he didn't like us then

I can’t imagine he’d like us now as we try to rationalize this current roster given his stated goal of a World Championship at all costs.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s 21 now. But the petulant may still apply.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

We can bring back baronycamby while we are at it.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t read those comments in a while. It was kind of fun to go back, in some respects.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

k3vo was even corporeal in those days!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the genesis of the IvDown / Tommy Blackjack Futurama bromance is in there.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

this is what i’m talking about. voice of reason strikes again.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The worst part about that is it wasn’t even close to Broxton’s nadir.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The old “…but i also work 60 hours a week and don’t have time to memorize every closer’s numbers” gambit.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I really like

the simplicity of this comment from npurcell
bq. lol no that one doesn’t count because it fails to prove his point.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

3 ways to test temp of cooking oil

How to Test Oil Temperature
Deep frying is normally done at between 360 and 375 degrees Fahrenheit and the following methods are designed to indicate when the oil reaches this temperature point

Use the handle of a wooden spoon or a wooden chopstick. When the oil has preheated, dip the handle of a wooden spoon or a chopstick into the oil. If the oil starts steadily bubbling, then the oil is hot enough for frying. If the oil bubbles very very vigorously, then the oil is too hot and needs to cool off a touch. If no or very few bubbles pop up – then it’s not hot enough.
The old Joy of Cooking method – drop a 1 inch square of bread into the oil. If it takes 60 seconds to brown, then the oil is at 365.
The Cooks Illustrated Method – drop a single kernel of popcorn into the oil as you heat it. The kernel will pop as the oil reaches between 350 and 360 degrees. (Remove the kernel, eat it, and start frying)

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Sometimes your awesome

but we were having so much fun.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Like women.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I have to remember that.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I worked with fryers

for two years, so I was amused at Josie’s fear even if it was well founded.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Wings are in, Honey BBQ wings at my house in ten mins!

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

1 cm of oil

that doesn’t sound like a lot. You probably should use at least 2.5 cm for better frying.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I was skittish about having that much hot oil that close to me. they turned out fine, i just turned them once and gave them a bit more time

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I do my wings on the barbecue; or you can bake them. They take longer but you don’t get the calories from the oil.

by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the Cooks Illustrated Method

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm probably one of a handful of people

who think it’s funny that they named Michael Keaton’s character in The Other Guys “Gene Mauch”
(Out on DVD today is why this occurred to me)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Nice. Keaton grew up in Pittsburgh, and was at the showing of Game 7 of the 1960 WS (on MLB-N tomorrow night).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

4.25 for our catchers

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this kind of like replacing a 16-14 pitcher with two 8-7 guys? Given Martin’s decline, I guess not.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha that is what I was trying to refer to directly below…

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I am anxious to see what Martin got from the Yankees. My guess is $4.5 million, plus incentives. But that is just a guess.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned was probably like, “Fuck Yea. I got two for the price of one, bitches!”

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Canada issuing Ferguson Jenkins postage stamps. If I get some, I will trade them for some Mad Dog stamps.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

How much

are the Yanks paying Martin?

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

MLB Trade Rumors reports

Navarro earns $1MM in 2011, according to the AP.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

This is almost bannable

what if everyone started cooking great things at home while we were working and talked about it.

Next thing we will have “like this” as comments. GG

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

alright alright, I see your point, I’ll keep facebook type comments on facebook

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Like This:)

Honestly, I’m just having fun, I enjoyed your fear of oil, I had kind of gotten the idea you were fearless.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot things, I’m terrified of getting burned

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You need

to drop by the house and pick up a few of my 100 aloe vera plants if you are going to play with oil.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you still talking oil or boyfriends now?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

nice of you to see the open endedness of the statement

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like watching Iron Chef when pork fat is the secret ingredient!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you took a picture

and are about to post it.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Phil will choke me with my own first child’s umbilical cord

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

you’d get a couple pokes and a few likes out of it though.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not

You really need to take the Michael White approach to Phil’s posting. He believes in nothing

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

purty plates

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

/Like

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

David Young Likes This

swesoke!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously so tasty. I put away a pound of chicken and didn’t even notice. My thighs will later of course, I’m required to say by lady law.

by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

For a guy

who destroyed the Timberwolve franchise he was a very mediocre talent.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

mediocre yes

but I think he will fit well in the 10-15 minute a game bench role that Theo was supposed to fill

by SeanMillerSavior on Dec 14, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Not done yet

and it still in the talk stages

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not even know he was still playing

Lakers might be trading Sasha “the Machine” for this guy

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Sasha is more Iron Mike than anything.

And for anyone who has ever tried to hit off an old Iron Mike pitching machine, you know what I mean.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like the Lakers are also giving up their first round pick next year.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Good

hope he rediscovers his fast ball.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Welp

time to put in my 90 minutes of work for the day.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

I am actively starting to freak out about this final

but the good news is that it’s due at 9 am tomorrow morning, so if I need to pull an all nighter, I so will.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

You got this.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

the bitch of it

is that we’re not supposed to take more than 2 hours typing everything out. So I’m trying to write out notes to everything by hand. Blah. It’s like taking the final twice.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap

I still need to read your paper

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I submitted it a while ago, no worries. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry I blew it. My brain is not working well. The second part of the A+ exam is going to be much harder for me.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Prior to Yankees

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

The Inverted W

stands for Win!

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

On the Cliff Lee signing

From what I’ve read, the only scrutiny (which seems to be overstating it) being given to the deal is whether he’ll be worth the money as he gets older. But if we are to give this point serious consideration, then I posit this query: Do you think the Phils could have better spent the money this offseason? Specifically, why weren’t they the frontrunner in the Crawford sweepstakes? After all, there are some big shoes to fill after having lost Werth. Crawford signed (on average) for less annually than did Lee, not to mention Crawford is a few years younger than Lee. Plus, the Phillies already had a terrific rotation without Lee.

Perhaps the answer would be more interesting coming from Phillie fans, but I want to get your take on it: Did the Phillies make a big mistake in not pursuing Crawford now that we know the money was available?

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

The choice was get the best free agent

or the 2nd best, they went for the best, and gave him fewer years then Crawford.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

But

Does the best free agent improve the team more than the 2nd best would have?

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it matter if they are only going to sign one?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wouldn't it?

Not sure I follow you. The contributions each of the two make are pretty dissimilar.

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wouldn't you take the best player you can get?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically this. It’s almost always better to take the best player possible and work around him than it is to take a lesser player that might be a better fit. Even better idea in this case when the two are making almost the same.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I just question it for the reasons stated above. To me, the Phillies have been successful in recent years because they’ve had the right balance of good pitching and good hitting. Clearly, their focus now is on pitching and I don’t want to say that’s wrongheaded, but with Ibanez on the decline, Rollins on the decline (?), and no Jayson Werth……Brown has promise, but he has yet to prove it at the big league level. Is it enough to have just Utley and Howard?

BTW, fuck Carlos Ruiz.

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

They have enough offense

that getting the best player available, even if he is a pitcher, is still the best move imho. They would also be blocking Dominic Brown by signing Crawford, and Brown is their number 1 prospect I believe.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

They made the right move

We would be ecstatic if we were Phillies fans right now.

by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No

They still have to live there.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I’d be kind of irked if Ned had that kind of money and spent it on Cliff Lee. The Giants owned him. He couldn’t handle the West.

Seriously I would be irked.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you really?

Would you be focused on Lee’s contract or the fact that you could buy a random ticket and have an 80% chance of watching a Cy Young candidate that night?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

If I had 23 Million to spend I’d rather not spend it on one player.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Certainly not saying Phillie fans don’t have reason to be happy with the signing. He’s definitely the best pickup they could have made at THIS point in time.

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Also if I have to chose between a long term contract for a hitter and a pitcher, I usually say pitcher because of this.

Will Carl Crawford ever not be the best left fielder on the Red Sox organization in the next 7 years? It’s very possible.

Will Cliff Lee ever not be one of the five best pitchers in the Phillies organization in the next 7 years? Probably not.

A contract is only truly a disaster when it starts blocking better players. It’s much less likely to happen to Lee.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh no question, they could have probably got almost anyone. But anyone you could get would either be: way worse than Lee, or expensive enough that you probably couldn’t afford him and Crawford.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

that lineup does NOT need another left handed hitter. I think in 6 years, Cliff Lee is more likely to be worth $24mil per season than Crawford is to be worth 20.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee’s value – Blanton is much bigger than Werth – Dom Brown.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I like this question

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

With regards to the original question, what are your thoughts?

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The rotation might be overkill in 2011 but in 2012 once Oswalt is gone they will want the three studs, plus if they cannot extend Hamels they know they will have Halladay/Lee after 2012 so I like it for them in the long term. Short term they well probably miss some offense but with that pitching I’m not sure how much they will miss it. They do have Dominic Brown so they have the best offensive prospect ready to step in, so that had to be part of their thinking.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

But

Is Oswalt as a non-Phillie in 2012 a given? Ibanez comes off the books at the end of the year and assuming they find a trade partner for Blanton, then they’ve freed up a decent sum of cash for next year. Granted they’re faced with the decision of how to keep Hammels, but……isn’t it plausible they can have the cake and eat it, too?

by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That train has sailed.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They already seem to have plenty of cake if you ask me

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

what?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an offshoot of awesoke AND swesoke.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And Sweden.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah Nah Nah

I’m getting a Holiday Present from the Dodgers. I can be so 9 sometimes without working very hard at it.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

i liked the recent snowglobes they sent out. the chair last year was weak

by delias man on Dec 14, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the

snowglobe i got with the glove holding the thinkblue rock. Was unimpressed with the 50 Anniversary globe.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

my mom went to some DS luncheon event the year of the snowglobe where Tommy (the good one) and Ned spoke. They gave her a snowglobe in a box and she had Ned sign it for me. Still have it, seeing as how he has my dream job (she told him I wanted his job someday). IIRC he signed it ‘Gary, Best Wishes. Ned’

Still kind of cool to me.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

It is the little things you don’t have to do that you do that define you.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ran into Ned Colleti at 7/11 on the way home

“Dioner Navarro” i said.

“That’s right.” said Ned, “All we need are Matt Guitar Murphy and Blue Lou and we’re getting them next.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Vin is going to love Dionar

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

General manager Ned Colletti is still looking for a left fielder (the candidates are Bill Hall, Marcus Thames and Jerry and Scott Hairston). If he doesn’t land one of them, a relief pitcher is a possibility.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

ok but

how many relief pitchers can OPS .750 and play left field?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Micah Owings?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ha, I thought of him

but I think he already signed.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I seriously love good-hitting relief pitchers.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Rick Ankiel?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m driving the Darren Dreifort for LF train. he can’t be that old, can he?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

he's still

dealing with injuries last I heard. not even joking

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

knees or something IIRC

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 14, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

would it be weird

to buy my wife a wedding band for our 1st anniversary? She only ever got an engagement ring.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

No

That would be really cool, and your wife will love it.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me, you think you’d like the band, but their constant presence just gets creepy after a while. And the bass player will constantly be hitting on your wife. No, better just to put on the iPod.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

didn’t see that one coming!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That was great

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Not weird

make sure you get it at a pawn shop. They love that shit.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

No

that would be very nice.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There is somebody named “Ned Guy” on Facebook. Thought that was funny.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

Is he an ultimate Ned Guy?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m really getting worried about how your mind works. Scary. But good.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric:

What sort of luxury taxes do the Phillies owe this year?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

The luxury of a World Championship

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming the estimates are right, none.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Likely none. They’d have to go over $178 million

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Does that mean that only the Yankees would owe tax?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in

That seems like a poorly designed tax.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Three is also revenue sharing

that the large markets pay out to the small market teams. The Dodgers and Angels would be among to payees in that group.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It was useful for all of 3 years?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Why The Hell Are We Still Looking For a Relief Pitcher?

That’s what Colletti said he was doing at the start of the off-season. We have acquired two since then, so did Colletti really mean he was looking for THREE relievers? And don’t we already have seven?

Broxton
Kuo
Jansen
Belisario
Troncoso
Padilla
Hawksworth

And then there is Elbert and Link, who to my mind should have been given a chance to win jobs in the MLB bullpen in spring training, but now have no chance. And Colletti STILL wants another reliever? For God’s sake.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

There’s no way Ned trusts Troncoso after what he did last year.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt Ned considers Troncoso a lock for the pen. Dude was awful last year.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Troncoso was PERFECTLY FINE Apart From Torre running Hinm Into the Ground

First 22 relief appearances of season: 3.48 ERA

Final 13 relief appearances, after recall from minors: 2. 60 ERA

The crappy Troncoso was purely a product of Torre’s over-use, and we were all predicting Troncoso’s arm was going to fall off. And we were right. His arm fell off. Funny thing is, when it fell off, everybody started blaming Troncoso rather than giving him a pass because of Torre.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think the blame went how you remember.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

In Saying Here That Troncoso

…“was perfectly awful last year” you are blaming Troncoso

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He was awful

thats not an assignment of blame, its SCIENCE fact

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That Troncoso was bad?

Did you see him give up bomb after bomb?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That Was A Particular PERIOD of Awfulness, After He Was Badly Abused

Try looking at his WHOLE season. He ended the year strong after he got away from Torre for a while. And that is why he is not a Cory Wade case. Wade never recovered.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Its too bad we have to play a full season

if only we could only play a period of games

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Are You Pretending To Be This Dense?

ANY fucking reliever is going to break down if he is used without adequate rest days. Look what happened to Broxton, the best reliever in baseball before June 26 of last year.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

its called snark

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

we has it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't brag about it

Snark is not for everyone, and I kind of find this prodding of a solid poster irritating.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not really trying to prod anyone

just making a joke that we always use. Like TWSS or BlameKemp. I never really like it when arguments here get heated either. Disscussion is fun though.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't being completely un-serious

I just don’t think you can look at his stretch at the end and completely throw out his period of awfulness in evaluating him.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that or relatively poor peripherals caught up to him.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

WRONG

its Torre’s fault. SCIENCE FACT.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong Torre hilariously abused him, but Troncoso never had the types of numbers that would make him a dominant reliever.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I completely agree

and I also have been known to blame Torre for Broxton’s struggles, I just don’t think we can assume that all of their problems are blameable on Torre, or that we can assume now that he is gone they will bounce back. Troncoso had ONE good year, and a few good relief outings at the end of last year should not make him a lock for the roster.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we can blame

Torre for abusing his relief pitchers.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

sure

but I’m not going to assume all of their problems are because of Torre and him being gone will allow them to magically get better. Relief pitching is volatile as all get out.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry. It's my fault.

I needed innings out of Broxton and Trocoso for my Fantasy League team last year and I asked Torre to help me out.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 14, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody Argued That He Was a Dominant Reliever

He was a solid middle reliever, and you know sinkerballers rarely put up big K rates. In fact, Torre abused Troncoso precisely because he was a good middle reliever and sinkerball, as he was always hoping he could induce double plays.

by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not know

where you got your ERA’s from.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4685&position=P

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

so you cherry picked, I thought that was a full season worth. So your saying he was over used in the beginning then sucked, then recovered in the minors and did okay for us in the end?

Still think he has a hard time making this team but when the sinker is on, he’s very useful.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine. Ramon Tronocoso put up very poor stats after having his arm thrown off by Joe Torre. Maybe with more care he may be better, however, I do not know if Ned believes going in with Troncoso is the best option, therefore he would express his desire to acquire another relief pitcher this off season.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That is not an accurate interpretation of the comment. Troncoso did not pitch well just as Corey Wade did not pitch well after over use. Wade never bounced back, maybe Troncoso well but they will find out this spring.

If Ned does not get another relief pitcher I’d have to think that Elbert would have the inside track on the other left hand slot not the right handed Troncoso.

If they are not trading Broxton, I do not understand why we would be in the market for another relief pitcher.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

This might be a dumb question

but how exactly would you avoid overusing relievers. I am sure one could argue that Scioscia blew out both Shields and K-Rod a few years ago because the Angels had so many close games and he would use them all the time.

Unless you are either way ahead or way behind (and especially in the NL where you change pitchers for offensive purposes) isn’t just a part of the game that you will be used sometimes a lot and sometimes not enough?

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Going mostly off memory, but it seemed like Troncoso would go back to back days a lot when there was no way he could have changed the outcome of the game.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

How dare you forget

Donnely.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Put together a rotation

that starts with Lee, Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I would imagine in the reliever he is looking for is a veteran lefty.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

They don’t get more veterany than Jesse Orosco. He is available.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I would do it just for the series with Arizona, when Orosco sneaks in and puts eye black in Gibson’s cap.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

and he'll say

“No wonder you came in 4th last year”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i enjoyed that story.

speaking of ST, I wonder if Donnie will give the team a Herb Brooksian speech in ST, “This team doesn’t have enough talent to win on talent alone.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if those 9 were perfectly fine

I don’t think the Dodgers get away with using only 14 pitchers in 2011.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see a lefty on that list other than Kuo

There is no way they want to start the season without another lefty in the pen. Unless/until a LOOGY is signed, Elbert has a shot at that job.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds vs. Randy Johnson (2001):

.200/.385/.300

Pretty epic.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

Does it bother anyone that...

Russ Martin is apparently good enough for the Yankees but not for the Dodgers?

by Joey Joe on Dec 14, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

He can hit like crap on the Yankees and it won’t really matter with their lineup.

by silverwidow on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if the Dodgers

had not offered him something very close to what he eventually signs for.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

We offered him a fair deal

he went elswhere. Who’s fault is that?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemp's

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Smith acquired via Spero Dedes

Deal cannot be finalized until tomorrow because Joe Smith was a signed free agent and cannot be traded until December 15th. Exactly like MLB free agents signed cannot be traded until June 15th.

So, the Lakers are staying quiet for now.

Sasha is still on the bench.

by Alex41592 on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

is it

for Sasha?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it looks like Sasha and a first round pick to the Nets for Joe Smith.

Apparently the Lakers will save a lot of money so that’s the motive.

by Alex41592 on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

A little over $9 million, per cap expert Larry Coon.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i know

they’ve been trying to move Sasha for awhile.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

3 way deal

The New Jersey Nets agreed to trade Terrence Williams to the Houston Rockets in a three-way deal that will land them Los Angeles Lakers guard Sasha Vujacic and a pair of first-round draft picks, sources confirmed to ESPN.com.

The trade, which has been agreed upon in principle, will also send Nets veteran power forward Joe Smith to the Lakers, while New Jersey will receive Los Angeles’ 2011 first-round pick and Houston’s 2012 lottery-protected first rounder, sources said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5920357

by Alex41592 on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They must really not want to spend money on a late 1st round pick.

by Joey Joe on Dec 14, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

hard to slip cheap into Jerry Buss’s name.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

and those late 1sts are never a given. They also picked up 2 pretty good players in this draft and are pretty set otherwise so…

Plus, I’ve been wanting them to dump Sasha for almost 2 years now.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 14, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

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OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

Img_0103_small CraigMinami