Russell Martin Escapes To New York; Vicente Padilla's Contract Incentives Revealed
Russell Martin is now officially gone, as he has signed a one-year contract with the New York Yankees. The financial details are not yet known, but if I had to guess, I think the deal is less than the $5 million Martin was seeking with the Dodgers. The Yankees and Dodgers were working on a deal for Martin in the days leading up to the non-tender deadline, which reportedly involved catcher Francisco Cervelli coming to Los Angeles, per the New York Times. That deal fell through, which leads me to believe the Yankees didn't want to pay Martin the $5.5 to $6 million he would have likely received in salary arbitration. Or perhaps they had strong feelings that the Dodgers were inclined to non-tender Martin anyway, so the Yankees didn't want to give up a player for someone they could simply sign on the free agent market.
Either way, good luck in the Bronx, Russ. You will be missed.
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The full performance bonus details of Vicente Padilla's contract have been revealed, thanks to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. In addition to his $2 million base salary, Padilla can earn up to $6.8 million in relief incentives, or up to $8 (or $9) million in starting incentives:
Relief Incentives
- $250,000 for each of 40 and 50 relief appearances
- $500,000 for each of 60, 70, and 80 relief appearances (there have been five Dodgers to pitch 80 games since 2000)
- $750,000 for each of 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, and 55 games finished
- $150,000 for each of 35 and 45 games in "which he enters games with the Dodgers leading by three or fewer runs" (this is by far my favorite Dodger performance bonus to date)
Starting Incentives
- $1 million for 12 starts and 70 innings pitched as a starter*
- $1 million for each of 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, and 33 starts
*I'm not sure if Padilla gets $1 million for 12 starts and $1 million for 70 innings as a starter, or if it is just $1 million combined for hitting both. If it is indeed $1 million for each, Padilla would have a potential for $9 million in starting bonuses, instead of $8 million.
Gurnick also notes all the incentives for Padilla are deferred without interest, to an unspecified date.
Tying this all together, Paul Quantrill, who had two of the five 80-games-pitched seasons since 2000 for the Dodgers, was also the last Dodger free agent to sign with the Yankees, when Quantrill did so after 2003.
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Don't worry
We can trade Sands for him in July, when Barajas is on the DL and we are 6 games out of 1st.
Conspiracy Theory
At exactly halfway through the season (81 games), after his 39th relief appearance (fewer than 30 of which were games finished, and fewer than 35 in which he entered with a lead of 3 or fewer runs), Padilla finds he is needed in the rotation.
Padilla remains in the rotation for the rest of the season, as the fifth starter. He pitches at each opportunity that he is called to do so, but is skipped twice (as teams do with their fifth starters). He makes 14 starts.
The Dodgers would owe him $2 million base, +$1m for the 12 starts, plus maybe the $1 more for 70 IP depending on how that clause reads.
$3 or $4 million for all of that? That is a bargain.
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That it’s 39 relief appearances and 14 starts from Vicente Padilla makes it a more fair value.
But yeah, this does seem to lend itself to abuse.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
It has been done
not many times but twice last year, and it looks like the pitchers for the most part had a good year.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like a great guy to put up for auction in a fantasy baseball draft :)
by CarolinaDodger on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I always feared the day our young core would become free agents and sign with the Yanks. Didn’t think it would happen quite this way though.
what a way to go, dying in a fake world because some jackass wants to taste steak
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Next time someone drops dead suddenly of a stroke, I will just assume Joey Pants pulled the plug.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
My friend said it best
I think the about only thing I will miss about Russell Martin is his cool saxophone playing father.
Taylor Morgan: "My abortion was botched!"
Teemu Selanne: "Wow. That sounds awesome."
by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 14, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions
The only Dodger ever
to reach the upper limit of Padilla’s incentives (80 games in relief and 55 games finished) was Mike Marshall in his herculean 1974 season, when he had 106 games in relief, and 83 games finished!
Master of the Obvious says
Padilla < Mike Marshall
Mike Marshall
thinks every pitcher in the league is a pussy.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Setting politics aside
This is kind of sad.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 14, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions
Is that your other nickname
or are you more of a Ford Fiesta kind of guy?
by Greg Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
depends on the level, leather jacket sure, but I stop at tattoo one. Cause it never stops at tattoo one, and that’s $200 coulda been spent on like 4 fancy dinners
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Now I'm picturing Keith in his wifes shoes
by Greg Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
You mean J. Edgar Hoover.
But he’s not Herbert, either.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Humma and I
know our famous cross-dressers.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
He isn’t a J. Edgar Hoover either.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’m glad y’all are on top of what menfolk are wearin lady garb
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not really Southern. It’s more western-via-Whedon. Was that your intention?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I look at that as neo-tribalism
not being “bad”
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Madds seems to equate egotism with being bad
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Wouldn’t it depend on the tat?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
like a tribal tattoo versus a big breasted female
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Which one is the bad one here?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Neither
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
if your Mom had a tattoo
that said “Son”, that’s more impressive to me
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Reg ain't so bad
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I agree
that we are not smart enough to be assholes.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
But the thing is
is that no self respecting bad boy would go anywhere NEAR me. I’m like a non-object to them. I wear sweatpants in public for Chrissakes.
Winter is coming.
A notch is a notch said the bad boy to the spider
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I must not give off that particular vibe to them.
Though I guess Billz Hating Ex was kinda in that mold, though he was actually just a huge geek with lots of tattoos.
Winter is coming.
HA
I have a good friend who has one tattoo’d on his shoulder. He is also very cute.
No, no SW related tats for B.H.E.
Winter is coming.
I have never dumped a girl for hating my favorite player……..
Now I’ve dumped a few who mentioned liking the Yankees or Giants!
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Oh, I dumped him for more concrete reasons like
not being in love with me anymore, or being attracted to me.
Hating Billz was just icing on the GFY cake.
Winter is coming.
Hey, I owned a Fiesta
First car I ever owned. I called it the Fiasco.
But it was a great car, really.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
it's no Chevy Citation

But mine was white.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
That was my mom's car.
Brand new in 1981. But she got a new car in 1987, saving me the indiginity of driving that beast when I turned 16 in 1990.
I eventually got that new car — a beige (but really pinkish-brown) Mercury Sable.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
That was really good. Eric Dickerson really is stubborn talking about any benefits he received.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I actually thought Dickerson came off looking great. Just really funny and (other than not talking about the benefits) a pretty honest guy. He hinted that he received benefits. But the story about him telling the Texas coach GFY and telling the recruit he would beat his ass was great.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he had great interviews in that doc. That might have been my favorite 30 for 30.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I think so
I did really like that one though, too.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely. I didn’t the U was that good. It just kind of haphazardly went from story to story.
This one was more like a movie with a central story, like the Escobar one.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw the Escobar one, but have heard nothing but good things.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll check when I get home. I have Charter.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
That’s the one to compare the SMU one two. Those were my two favorites by a long shot.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw that one, and it sounds like I’m glad I didn’t.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
i sawr it
But I guess not really knowing much about the LA Raiders I can’t really make a judgement. It did remind me of when I was younger and my Mother refusing to buy Raider gear for my older brother and half-brother because she was convinced they would be shot by gang-bangers because of it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
from what I have heard in stories, the Raiders were the most gangster team ever. Situated in dangerous South Central, it became common practice for the Raiders to try and lift blackouts by allowing gang members in for free. AK47 with admission night was a huge hit. The Raiders were so evil they convinced the LA Kings that hockey could be popular in LA if they just joined the darkside, came out from the Laker shadow, but that dream never materialized. Then, after starting the crack epidemic, the Raiders left town to go destroy another village, known as Oak Land.
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Nice.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I said try, I didn’t say they succeeded in lifting said blackouts
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
The boosters and dirty assistant coaches were pretty funny.
“I feel like I have to go to A & M because of the car.”
“The fuck you do. Keep the car and come to SMU.”
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
They were great!
And the TV news footage of the university exec lying about sending the linebacker anything at all, then getting presented with the envelope and letter was classic. I bet Geraldo Rivera got a boner watching that part.
Also, the footage of the other college coaches and recruiters swarming SMU on the day of the death penalty announcement was awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Saw a bit of the Marcus Dupree 30 for 30
on a restaurant TV over the w/e. There were some over-the-top recruiting stories in there, but the note that got me was that because Mississippi integrated their public schools in 1970, Dupree’s class was the first in his town to have been in solely integrated classes. I remember when he was supposed to be the next big thing at Oklahoma, and his brief tenure with the Rams after coming back from a knee injury.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
i really liked that one. His high school footage was fucking amazing. I have seen a lot of men vs. boys RB’s in HS football the last 15 years, but nothing like him.
I saw some of that footage and I agree on its amazing-ness. Just ridiculous.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I missed that one as well, due to a recording snafu (I think I was recording two other things during the second hour). I was looking forward to that one.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
It still has three showings scheduled.
http://30for30.espn.com/film/the-best-that-never-was.html
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent. The scumbag “advisor” reverand from Mississippi State comes off as a real skank.
by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I saw half of it
hopefully i can see the rest on demand, it was very interesting.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I watched that as well and I agree. I’m definitely not an ESPN fan but they’ve had some really good ones in this series. The “Guru of Go” was outstanding, as was the Marcus Dupree one.
by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Per Yahoo:
• RHP Zack Greinke(notes) wouldn’t appear to be a fit for the Dodgers with so many starting pitchers on the roster already. But the Dodgers contacted the Royals about the former Cy Young award winner, who will likely be traded this winter, because he’s such a difference-maker. Talks went nowhere because the Dodgers don’t have the prospects the Royals are seeking.
This is my surprised face
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
“Talks went nowhere” is a good place to stop.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Zach Lee could be that guy
but he can’t be dealt until the next off-season.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Lee can be dealt as soon as August 16 (one year after he signed). Not that he will be dealt, of course.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
He’s not on the 40-man, and doesn’t have to clear waivers.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
he wouldn’t be on the 40 man roster so he wouldn’t have to clear waivers.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Greinke to the Dodgers can end, but I suspect we will hear about him going to the Yankees all winter.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
“OK, KC, you drive a hard bargain. You can have Sands AND Travyon! Please ship the Greinke to Dodger Stadium, 1000 Elysian….. Hello? Hello…? Hey, Logan, he’s stunned. Too stunned to speak that we offered both Sands AND Robinson. Do you think we overpaid?”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe someone already mentioned this but.....
I wonder how the public address announcer at Dodger Stadium feels about Rrruuuusell Maartin’s departure? Not many guys on the roster who have the perfect name for announcing an at bat. Jaaames LOwney just doesn’t have that natural growl to it that Rruuuusell Maartin does. Peace out Russ. I now must hate you for being on the Yankees.
He let go of Jayson Werth, he can learn to love again.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
If all else fails, we can put Jason Grabowski back on the roster.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
rrrrrrrrroooooooooooood barajas
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrussell Mmmmmmmmmitchell!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Kyyyyyyyyyyyyle Rrrrrrrrrrrussell!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
he made it!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Basically anyone with an R in their name followed by a vowel.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
So apparently this is happening tomorrow
Following (private) detailed presentations to AEG and ICON Venue Group (Owners Representative firm) by the three architectural firms selected to submit proposals to design the L.A. Event Center, a media briefing and update will take place.
The email is super cryptic, but I’m guess the Event Center includes football stadium plans? I have no idea really
It will be exciting to add this to the list of failures
Irwindale
Carson
Hollywood Park
Dodger Stadium
DTLA One
“Renovated Coliseum”
Industry
DTLA Two
I kinda wanna go to the presser now, just to so I was there at the beginning of the end
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
They changing 7th/Fig
that is my Staples Metro stop
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
We should buy a TBLA Loft overlooking LA Live
where we do podcasts, parties, and all those things rich young attractive people do in lofts even though most of you are neither rich, attractive, or young.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I'll settle for 2 out of the 3
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
relatively to others my age?
perhaps
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Ha Ha
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
If Ryan Reynolds and Scarlett Johansson can’t make it as a couple, what hope do the rest of us have?
But he’s my age, and that mean’s I’m too old for Scarlett. I can’t accept that.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Meh. She ain’t shit.
I think I’m more attracted to Reynolds than her.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Is her, uh,
nose too big for you or something?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Her nose used to bother me
I got over it
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
her smile is kinda weird, but you could balance your checkbook on those breasts
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
It isn't
being sent my way.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
she just always looks like she’s faking it to me, like I think her natural state is meant to be completely serious all the time
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
It’s that northern european, long dark winter days thing. So serious.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
She’s within the formula for him, is he not? The age gap is only 8 years.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Unless you are an actor / actress / wealthy
then you can throw the formula out the window.
My guess is that the formula was created by woman over 35.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Half plus seven
He’s 34, so 17+7 = 24, meaning Reynolds can date anyone 24 or older. She’s 26. It works.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I just
figured they were the same age. She is only 26? Wow!!
Maybe my favorite actress beauty wise.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
So starting at 46
it is 30 and up, eh?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
as one gets older, the gap gets wider. This is sciences way of ensuring that those who fall through the cracks in their own generation don’t get left behind
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
as one gets older, the gap gets wider
This will be on the sleeve of the TBLA t-shirt.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Mind the gap.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
One could misinterpret
such a thing
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
My range goes down to 32
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I can go all the way down to 23, which would be pretty awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Maddz and Josie take note.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t date my boss, that’s how movie plots start
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
this is the part of the movie where I become Catwoman, I presume
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
You would voice her like Eartha Kitt, right?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
WHO THE HELL IS EARTHA KITT?!
YOU ARE ASKING WHO THE HELL IS EARTHA KITT?!
SERIOUSLY?!?!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Dear god, the young’uns.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Hey
she may not have been sent to hell.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
what? was she in a star war or something?
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Eartha Kitt as Catwoman
in the last season of the Batman TV series.

This is not what she should be most famous for, but it is her poppiest pop-culture reference. Given that there is supposed to be sexual tension between Batman and Catwoman, recasting Eartha Kitt as the villainess in the late 1960s was a pretty gutty move by ABC.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Coincidentally, Reynolds can date anyone from 24 to 54, while Johansson can date anyone from 20 to 38.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I have to admit to Phil that
I was wrong to comment about Hazel Mae’s age yesterday. She remains gross, but Lucero is 41, and I have had a serious crush on her about a year now. 
It is apparently red dress day at TBLA.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Here's a two-fer
Although I hate the shapeless dress Zooey is wearing.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
huh, for two people who never work together, the Deschanel sisters sure have a bunch of photo shoots together
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
that’s the only time I know of them being on film together
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
They should totally do a movie
where these sweet as sauce sisters are in reality sisters from hell.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
That could be the title - Sisters: From Hell
In a world where little girls are made of sugar and spice, these girls don’t play nice. Coming this winter
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Josie -
You really should do movie promos – not reviews.
There’s a lot more room to be creative.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
hey I’m only on the critical side til creative swoops me up
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I need to make up for that

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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
My final contribution

just to keep things in perspective
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
I believe Mila
has killed more people in movies then anyone in history. She will always be a fave of mine because of the 5th Dimension.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Ha ha
Now I get what David wrote
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I do not know this person
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
by meercatjohn on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t know they were married!
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
He was too busy
recovering from the Russell Brand/Katy Perry nuptials.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
A film blogger colleague of mine just commented on that
Dear Ryan Reynolds, you’re handsome and all, but you’ll never do better. Whatever you did, it was your fault. You poor dolt. Love, Scott.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
they were never really seen together
except at the gym. And I would totally love to see Ryan Reynolds’ 6 pack for myself…with my mouth. /fans self
Winter is coming.
Daddz Maddz
loves this stuff
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
This story sucks
and makes me thankful we never have to drive in shitty weather conditions in SoCal. Yankee blogger Steven Smith died yesterday in a car accident in New Jersey. His car slid off the road, down an embankment, along with another car. Smith got out to check on the damages to his car, but when he was out he was struck by another car. That really, really sucks.
I’m not sure what blog he wrote for, but I have seen his posts on Twitter, and was known enough that a few Yankee beat writers acknowledged his death on Twitter today. Sad story.
wow, how sad
my condolences to his family and friends.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Driving on ice
sucks.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
That ending sucked
but it is confusing. If he slid down an embankment, how could another car hit him?
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the other car
slid down the same embankment I imagine
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I guess it was onto another road. I’m not sure.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
For Robotmadeofnails (late comment, last thread)
Halladay is signed through 2013, with a vesting option for $20 million for 2014.
Thanks
For some reason I thought that was a two year deal
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
The Dodgers put out a holiday greeting, which is pretty lame (and it seems most MLB teams have done similar ones today), but hey there is Kershaw footage, so enjoy.
Best headline ever:
Butt lawyer says corruption ‘rife’ in cricket
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101214/wl_sthasia_afp/cricketpakicccorruptionfixingbuttaftabgul
good luck, J-Mart
I hope he does well enough to win enough to win those brutal fans over, but not so well that we end up screaming for years how Ned sold low yet again. (“Sold” in this case being a huge understatement, seeing how we didn’t actually get anything in return for him.) But honestly, better to see him revive his career in New York than Colorado.
They made a fair offer to him. I’m not interested in putting any blame on Ned.
This isn’t even in the conversation with selling low on JMac.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely agree with you on J-Mac
And yeah, the offer to Martin was fair. But seeing how Plan B ended up being to overpay Barajas instead, they mine as well have just given in to Martin’s demands for a year, and seen what came of it, IMO.
Ned is rightfully concerned
about whether or not Martin will be ready for opening day. Even if he signed Martin, he still needed another workable catching option.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Festivus lives!
An Orange County jail inmate caused a stir this year by successfully claiming the fictitious holiday Festivus, made famous on the television show "Seinfeld," as part of his religious beliefs to score better meals.
Malcolm Alarmo King, 38, enjoyed "a high protein no salami diet 3 times per day for ‘Festivism’" according to a court order by Orange County Superior Court Judge Derek G. Johnson.
King, who was serving a one-year sentence at Theo Lacy Jail for a drug offense, also got the judge to sign off on double portions of kosher meals three times a day in a bizarre arrangement first reported by the Orange County Register.
by Tripon on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
And what's the deal with New England?
It’s over 200 years old! Last time I checked, that’s not that new.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
That officially deserves some elevator music because of how amazing Mr. King is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da-RjeCObyA
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Any guitarists here with DIY experience?
I recently came across my uncle’s old bass guitar and I’m interested in restoring it to its former glory. Unfortunately, all that’s left of it is the wooden shell: all of the electronics and circuitry have been stripped, along with (obviously) the strings. Does anyone have any idea what I might have to do to fix it up, and how much that might cost? I’d like to avoid taking it to a major music retailer (i.e. Guitar Center, Sam Ash) for as long as possible, seeing as how they have a tendency to overcharge for any and everything.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
If you don't know what you are doing.
Take it to a pro. I wouldn’t take it to a box store no matter what unless that is your only option. You should be able to find a local luthier to take a look at it. But if the neck looks straight and the finish is still in good shape you could try to install new electronics yourself. If you know how to solder well. Any pickups you buy should have wiring diagrams. Some basses can have pretty complicated electronics though. And stringing is quite easy. I would say at the least take it to a local luthier/guitar shop to have it checked out. They could at least tell you what if anything is wrong with it. And get you on the right path to get the correct electronics. Do you know how long it’s it’s been without strings? and how it’s been stored ie( in a home, in an uninsulated garage/storage, in a case, or just laying around.) Humidity and temperature can have a huge effect on a guitar or bass.
Thanks for the suggestion
This place looks perfect…I may go grab it and get a quote today. Not too far away from work or home.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Just remember Tomas
for every question that gets answered here, Eric gets a buck.
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Sounds to me
like easy money for Eric. :)
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
What a crappy day to be a New Yorker
To lose out on the Lee race like that and then to get Russell Martin as a consolation prize.
That’s like if Dodgers were in the race to get a top tier FA like Lee, but instead got Russell Martin as a consolation prize.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions
when was the last time that happened? Kevin Brown?
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
well we weren’t really bidding against anyone for Manny though
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Does Andrew Jones count, or was that a gag prize?
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
In the end, gagging was involved.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
His down year dropped him down a peg, but he was still heavily sought.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
The only player I know of that......
Lives up to David Letterman’s “Fat Tub Of Goo” description.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
just always feels that way when you are dealing with Boras.
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by David Young on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
the last time the Dodgers were bidders for the tip top free agent of the season
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Furcal?
He was the top shortstop of the offseason anyway.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
According to Bill Plaschke the last time the Dodgers did that was Don Drysdale
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Then Raul Mondasi threaten to kill Bill’s children
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Comparing the numbers for the past two seasons
Andruw Jones > Bill Hall?
LF?
Why not?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nice
from 20,000 to 1.5 Million. I hope he did it alone and has no friends or family that he likes to brag to.
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but he stole chips…how is he going to turn those into money?
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Carefully:)
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laundering money through sex workers. never would have thought of that.
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
give the coins to the strippers, a few hundred bucks at a time, give them a cut, have them cash their chips and give you your 90% or whatever.
It was in 21.
Do, do, do you have it?
Also not a bright way to go about not getting caught
A whore is a a whore, they would turn you in before you could blink. Money will talk. It always does.
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Apparently
he stole chips ranging from $100 to $25K denominations. I have to believe it will virtually impossible for anyone off the street to cash a $25K chip without being questioned.
Ha
Has anyone here ever seen a 25K chip?
He was daring, now we will see if he is smart enough to not let his ego get in the way of his future.
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I am guessing it had to be $100
chips – even at that rate, it will be 150 racks ($10K) worth of chips.
So it will take a while to cash that in, even a $1000 per visit.
My guess
Would be he would sell the $1.5mm in chips for $1mm in cash or something along those lines… Or hire hookers to do it for him.
I suspect more Dodger fans would want to attempt Reg’s Sheffield bullet theory on Gary than would want him to man LF.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Gack
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Strasburg will get his 400 strikeouts in a season before Sheffield enters the HOF with a Dodger cap on his plaque.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Two
Sheff in 2001, and Juan Gonzalez in 1993
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Clean?
Probably neither
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Or “Why you shouldn’t ever turn down $140 million” :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Now that was a contract fail
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San Diego has more Dodgers numbers retired....
…than the actual Dodgers do. They’ll also get to Fernando before we do.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
That’s 50% in my book,
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Even if you eliminate the players who played the majority or all their career in Brooklyn
By memory Alston, Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, Lasorda. (Brooklyn Dodgers – Reese, Snider, Robinson, Gilliam and Campanella)
No way
I mean, it is kind of a joke that they retired Garvey’s number, but he does have the top postseason moment in their franchise history.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
if Marlon Anderson had played in over 600 games instead of 30 and led his team into the World Series by winning the NLCS championship. Other then that good analogy.
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Took me a minute to realize that “Robinson” means Jackie. In a sense, that shouldn’t count, since MLB retired that number, not each individual team.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was racking my brain for a Padre Robinson
thanks for getting me back on course.
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Randy Jones shouldn't count ethier
Because that means Eric Gange deserves a freakin statue built of him out in autograph alley.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
at least they didn’t retire Mark Davis’ number
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
1989 Cy Young Voting
1 Mark Davis
2 Mike Scott
3 Greg Maddux
4t Orel Hershiser
4t Joe Magrane
6t Tim Belcher
6t Scott Garrelts
8 Rick Reuschel
9 Mike Bielecki
9 Mitch Williams
I don't usually like to point out typos, but
Randy Jones shouldn’t count Ethier
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I love how I spelt Either
even in the offseason I can’t get that handsome devil off my mind.

George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Haha on Show BTW. Randy Jones is the other SD retired number
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Dave Winfield
still has the most memorable bad throw I’ve ever seen in a World Series.
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When Winfield asked for the ball after his one hit in that series, was that a big deal at the time? I have only seen it via highlight videos. It seemed pretty funny to me, but it sounds like something that would get picked apart every which way today.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
As I recall
it was funny at the time but I don’t think anyone was laughing after the series ended. He not only had a terrible series he had terrible ALCS preceeding it. 3 hits in 35 at bats for a guy who might have been the highest paid player in baseball at the time.
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I had a good laugh
I can’t recall if the ABC crew made a lot of jokes about it but it was definitely pointed out.
Very interesting
Dave Steib was pretty awesome. And I would think at least Roberto Alomar from the two-time champs would be retired.
I bet they retire Cito Gaston’s number eventually.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite Joe Carter stat came with the Padres
in 1990, he hit .232/.290/.391, yet drove in 115 runs (3rd in the NL, seven off the lead), mostly because he batted fourth or fifth, with these guys in front of him:
Bip Roberts (.375 OBP)
Tony Gwynn (.357 OBP)
Roberto Alomar (.340 OBP)
Jack Clark (.441 OBP)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
441?
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Clark was as awesome as he was an asshole (and a piano connoisseur)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think I remember
Joe Carter being written about as a mentor for the young Matt Kemp since they’re both from the same area.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Yep. Someone did a list of worst 100 RBI seasons at one point, and the top was almost all Joe Carter and Eric Karros.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Carlos Delgado people!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Olerud
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BTW here are the combined 2010 numbers of what is now the Big Four in Philly
Doc-CLee-Oswalt-Hamels (in 2010): 126 starts, 883 1/3 IP, 2.84 ERA, ~142 ERA+ (I think I figured it right)
Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz-Neagle (97): 135 starts, 962 IP, 2.80 ERA, 149 ERA+
If those four can replicate their 2010, that will stack up quite nicely with those 1997 Braves.
Oswalt
gets my vote to screw the pooch
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5 man pitching staff
Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Neagle, Wohlers.
a la ballgame.
Do, do, do you have it?
I wish Pettite would just friggin retire already
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Not yet on Pettite
We need another long reliever
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
heh
How many offseasons has he done this dance? 4 now?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
not nearly as bad
but still annoying
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
just like the season
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Now This Is A Headline
FIFA president: Homosexuals should ‘refrain from sexual activities’ at 2022 World Cup
@andrewngrant
So glad
the cup will be in Qatar. Soooooooooooo glad.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
not covered but should also watch their back:
interracial couples
inter-religious couples
short people
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
GD
always picking on the short people.
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women wearing less than 100 square feet of clothing.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I swear, in twelve years from now when I’m covering that world cup for the LA Times, I’m gonna need a popemobile to get around
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
LATimes.com of course. Imagine, print journalism in twelve years!
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think you have a better shot covering that for a website
like SBN since I think it would economically unfeasible for an individual newspaper to cover the World Cup in 2022.
In twelve years
you won’t need to physically be present for any of it. The level of public and media access is going to be so intrusive you’ll be able to do anything you like.
Do, do, do you have it?
Ha
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There will always be need for writers
especially for the web.
It’s still determining how to make money without large commercial ads or classifieds like the old school newspapers used to do it, that is making it hard to figure the next steps.
I’m sure it’s that and the fact that internet ads are still considered a subset, some of the print money is divested to blogs, some of the tv money is divested to sites like hulu, but the focus is still on print and tv
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I hope in the future...
…virtual reality makes its comback

George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
How many times was Ted Williams intentionally walked? BB-Ref has limited info on this.
What’s the record for unintentional walks in a season?
B-Ref has him at 110 unintentional.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Probably that.
Eddie Yost as far as I can tell has the record with 142.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yost in 56: .231/.412/.336. That rules so hard.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yost, Eddie Joost, and Ferris Fain are my favorite walking guys of that era.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, only one of them, Yost, has the nickname The Walking Man.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I always thought Ferris Fain was a made up name
I’m still not sure he really existed.
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He's still alive
I have to think even at 85 he can walk 60 times in a full season.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
We can send Velez in to pinch run for him. :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
“Nope” – Ned Colletti
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man
I am a dope. I read his 41 strikeouts (the next column) as his IBB. Whoops.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
I bet Bonds still has it
of course many of those unintentional walks where players simply pitching around him in the vain hope he would swing at a bad pitch.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
NFL Draft news
insidetroy
#USC DT Jurrell Casey and OT Tyron Smith will enter the NFL draft.
Soon Akeem Ayers and Rahim Moore from UCLA will make similar announcements.
I am an Ilgauskas fan. There, I said it.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
That was a great documentary
saw it on IFC in 05 I believe
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I'm glad
I lived through the Z Channel years. The leap from Z Channel to Netflix entertainment wise is beyond imagination.
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I would welcome a new Z channel
Like this:

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
What is with all the Zooey love?
She is very average looking. Is it the personality?
Flagged
Watch it – I have moderator powers!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You keep using that word
I do not think it means what you think it means.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
To be honest...
I liked fall better than summer, and I only knew fall for like 2 seconds.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
or spring? I dont even remember what he name was. But yeah I’m not down with the zooey love.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
he?
Give me a break, I’m procrastinating from doing finals
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Also flagged
Minka Kelly was “Autumn”.
The eyes are definitely part of it.
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Quote
"We know Dioner well from his previous stint in Los Angeles and we are comfortable with how he handles a pitching staff," said Colletti. "He’s a solid Major League catcher and we’re looking forward to his contributions behind the plate next season."
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
No grit or ring in the box for this one.
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true story
i was looking up the trailer for an interesting movie and typed in “jamey carroll” into the search bar. this is what came up
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810153253/info
maybe its not a “true” story, but it might as well be
“Without a catcher, the baseball would almost certainly roll all the way to the backstop,” Colletti said. “I can tell you from my beer league experience that this can be a disaster — the other team just keeps running around the bases on you. One thing you can say about Dioner is that he will keep the ball from going all that far into foul ground most of the time. We hope.”
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
what’s the damage?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
about two negative wins
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I believe the White Sox are the only team that includes salary figures in their press releases.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
OK, this is awesome (about Navarro)...I had no idea
in 2006, he became the first catcher in Major League history to start and finish a triple play, this one of the "2-6-2" variety.
"First"
but not “only”? Someone has done it since?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
According to this website
http://tripleplays.sabr.org/tp_combo.htm
No, it hadn’t been done before and hasn’t been done since (2-6-2). Apparently, there was also an instance of a 2-3-2 triple play, but I can’t find a mention of it yet.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
So what is that, strike out, catch a guy stealing second, catch a delayed steal at home?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
On September 2, 2006, in the first inning against Seattle:
Triple Play: Strikeout Looking, Beltre Caught Stealing 2B (C-SS); Lopez out at Hm/SS-C
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
men on first and third, nobody out, x is at the plate. X stikes out swinging, but 2 drops the ball. He goes to tag out x, but nobody is covering 2nd so Y takes off. 6 comes over to take the throw tagging out the runner at second, z takes off on the throw trying to steal home! The throw back to the plate….and he’s out!
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
For Delia, from Fox Soccer
Newsweek/MSNBC’s @jonathanalter reporting that Qatar paid $10m for EACH World Cup vote
I’m gonna believe what he says, cause he writes for Newsweek, and I’m also going to believe that this means USA WC in 2022, or there is not God/Justice
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Like Fifa would ever fess up
and rectify it even if there where a billion smoking guns
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
the other part of this is that the bribe is legal
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Another quote from the press release
Navarro has always worn No. 30 in honor of Sept. 30, 2003, the day his wife was expected to pass away, according to the doctors.
It doesn’t say he will wear #30 with the Dodgers though (which is assigned to Lopes per the infamous whiteboard).
Is that sentence grammatically wrong? I’m sure doctors didn’t report that Navarro always wore 30.
I speculated on this number thing when he was signed – it’s in his wikipedia! Coaches give up numbers to players all the time; I bet Lopes switches.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
that second comma shouldn’t be there, but folk start writing a second clause and they forget they’re working on a sentence….as I almost did in my own example
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
It was the end of a sentence. I parsed it.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think it will matter what came before “Navarro”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You are right
and looking back, that is the complete sentence.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Given that the Yankees didn't get to blow a big wad
of cash on Cliff Lee, how much are they going to sign Albert Pujols for, $30M/season? Yeah, they have Tex – one can DH. Maybe Albert can still play LF.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
i would be more pissed at that
then with Lee going there.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if Ethier attended
AZ Central also noted that employees of Go Daddy Group Inc. enjoyed a lavish holiday party this year. The $4 million bash included 6,000 employees and took place at Chase Field on Saturday night.
mmm, threesome with Andre and Danica Patrick
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Danica Patrick
is very meh despite all of Go Daddy’s attempts to make me regard her as a sex symbol.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Are you reffering
to her being a b word? Maybe a c word?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
or just acting entitled?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I wouldn't say no to Danica
Beggars can’t be choosers.
I guess I would have to take that same option with Ethier too. I don’t think I would enjoy it but hey I don’t have room to be picky.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 14, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
she'll
be in her bunk.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Ken Gurnick's Twitter for iPhone delay strikes again!
Tony Gwynn’s signing is now official. Check dodges.com for more
dodges.com
leads to the question: what, exactly, did the Dodgers dodge by signing Gwynn?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Steve Phillips on Fanhouse had the $1 million figure, last Wednesday.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting article
the six Identities of the post-1988 Dodgers.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions
Very nice of them to skip over 2005.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
2005 gets what it deserved
Identity No. 4: Enter the McCourts (Early to mid-2000s):
The McCourts bought the team prior to the 2004 season … blah blah blah 2004 playoffs…. By the end of the next year, manager Jim Tracy was gone and the team looked almost totally different.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Interesting take on Joe Torre. I’m still not sure what to think. For every good there seems to be a bad. Those back-to-back NLCS appearances are hard to ignore, but was he really the best fit for this organization? Maybe someday someone will write a book on the Torre/Colletti years . . .
I think Torre would look terrible if instead of 2008 being an NLCS appearance, you call it an 84 win season.
The 2007 Dodgers won 82 games, Grady Little got fired. The 2008 Dodgers were basically the same team, except they made the greatest trade deadline acquisition of all time. They won 84 games. How much can you attribute to Torre.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Very little
But he did provide a nice even keel presence on a team that came a couple Broxton fastballs away from playing in the World Series. I personally will never forgive him for how he handled Bills. We’ll see what Mattingly can do next . . .
I think Torre was the right guy for those teams, then again
I am not one to complain about Torre’s usage of the bullpen and he did sit Pierre for the first game of the 2008 season.
And the friction between veterans and young players that Torre gets so much credit for healing was kind of working its way out in 2008 anyway. The young players had proven that they were legit MLB players and there were fewer obviously crap vets signed to block them (Luis Gonzalez).
Luis Gonzalez
put up a .793 OPS (104 OPS+) for LA that one year, or .033 better than Matt Kemp (107 OPS+) last year.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Are we talking about 2007? The beef was not with Gonzalez. It was with Pierre.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think Gonzalez had the issue about playing time
since it was for a while Ethier, Kemp and Gonzalez but for some of us who followed the team, the issue was why do they have to keep playing Pierre, is it just because of his consecutive game streak.
at Left field while taking away playing time from Kemp and Ethier. It was a depth signing that cost the team $7 million. Unnecessary move that caused problems.
you know I agree with you. I was just debating the “crap” adjective.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I can see why its ‘crap’ though because by that time, Luis Gonzalez was also playing atrocious defense.
They weren’t gonna hand a job to a guy who hit .202/.233/.275 after June 15th the previous year.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
you really need to stop putting the words ‘hand’ and ‘job’ so close to each other.
Do, do, do you have it?
Kemp didn’t deserve one of those after June 15th either.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
lies damn lies
and the truth
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Personally looking forward to the 7th identity
Because this 6th one is a decaying corpse that Ned is trying to necromanticize.
by BFDC on Dec 14, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe the word you were looking for is “awesome.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
A few years back he was in a movie I was working on. I was in the office of the guy putting together the Electronic Press Kit — video soundbites, that kind of thing.
So he’s on screen and he says something about the movie. I say to the guy editing the soundbite, in a loud, can-you-believe-he-said-that voice, “Oh, come on. That’s Ludacris!”
He laughed for about three weeks. I was pretty proud of that.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
good story
Hey Humma—I never asked you. Do you like “Modern Romance”? I swear, that scene where they’re dubbing the sound absolutely kills me every time I see it . . .
Believe it or not, never seen Modern Romance.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
yes!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
by nolander on Dec 14, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
seriously
this suzy kolber article cracks me up every time http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
fuck it
I’m going deep would actually be a GREAT slogan for the Dodgers this year.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
open question
who do the Dodgers put on the cover of the media guide this year?
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Rex Grossman
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Kershaw in a landslide
or maybe the whole six man rotation
or maybe
Kuo/Broxton/Jansen
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Only trust the finger test
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Do you have a cat nearby to test the oil?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
You should probably never eat at my house again
I cannot guarantee my wife will not poison you.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I have actually never eaten at your house. Stayed overnight twice (I think it was twice), but no food was consumed.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
That looks poorly for us
did we not offer you food?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
It was timing both times
We got back super late from games, and once we went out to breakfast Sunday morning, and the other time I left early to get to Dodger Stadium.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Thermometer is the only safe way. It can bubble at under 350.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
in order from the top
fuck you, fuck you, reg you’re cool, but there’s no way I’m getting “put a thermometer in” close to that oil
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Make you get the thermonmeter wet with water
before dipping it, into the oil. That is always fun.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
How much oil are we talking?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
like a centimeter in a 10" diameter pan with 5" sides
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
according to congress it already happened, we’re metric
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
the funny part is: in for a penny, in for a pound refers to money and not weight measurement
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
pence is plural for penny, but thanks for playing : p
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
take some ap classes
anything below 4.3 won’t even get you a look from the best schools these days
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
buck up kid, no one gets into Harvard anyhow
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Come on
you were a 2.4 just like me who did the bear minimum.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I hope you’re smarter than the average bear : )
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
It's like George Bernard Shaw said..
about the British and Americans : “We are two peoples separated by a common language.”
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
You should be safe with a cooking thermometer, wear gloves and goggles if you’re really concerned.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Just follow the directions on the box

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I like reading the "related Fan Posts" sometimes
For instance, it was fun to read the “Unacceptable” post again.
Still my all-time favorite
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/28/1540900/time-for-a-new-closer
Do, do, do you have it?
Did the GFY comment get deleted from that thread?
I loved Phil being the voice of reason.
Broxton got worse, but for none of the reasons bearface outlined.
Do, do, do you have it?
Hey
you got your first rec.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I remember my first rec
I slept like a baby
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Also, I know bearface is already banned
but fuck you again, dick. Here is a quote on his profile page:
I like the Dodgers. So much so that I want them to win the World Series at any cost. Unfortunately, some Dodger fans would rather talk about how great Ethier’s OPS+ is or Kershaws great K/9.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I heard
that Kershaw calls his member the K9
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Sadly
in the end Broxton did implode and all our arguments against the BearFace fan post while right at the time, look pointless now.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
If he’s not a petulant child, sure.
No offense, IVdown. :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
If he didn't like us then
I can’t imagine he’d like us now as we try to rationalize this current roster given his stated goal of a World Championship at all costs.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
We can bring back baronycamby while we are at it.
by Michael White on Dec 14, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t read those comments in a while. It was kind of fun to go back, in some respects.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
k3vo was even corporeal in those days!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The worst part about that is it wasn’t even close to Broxton’s nadir.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
The old “…but i also work 60 hours a week and don’t have time to memorize every closer’s numbers” gambit.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I really like
the simplicity of this comment from npurcell
bq. lol no that one doesn’t count because it fails to prove his point.
3 ways to test temp of cooking oil
How to Test Oil Temperature
Deep frying is normally done at between 360 and 375 degrees Fahrenheit and the following methods are designed to indicate when the oil reaches this temperature point
Use the handle of a wooden spoon or a wooden chopstick. When the oil has preheated, dip the handle of a wooden spoon or a chopstick into the oil. If the oil starts steadily bubbling, then the oil is hot enough for frying. If the oil bubbles very very vigorously, then the oil is too hot and needs to cool off a touch. If no or very few bubbles pop up – then it’s not hot enough.
The old Joy of Cooking method – drop a 1 inch square of bread into the oil. If it takes 60 seconds to brown, then the oil is at 365.
The Cooks Illustrated Method – drop a single kernel of popcorn into the oil as you heat it. The kernel will pop as the oil reaches between 350 and 360 degrees. (Remove the kernel, eat it, and start frying)
Sometimes your awesome
but we were having so much fun.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I worked with fryers
for two years, so I was amused at Josie’s fear even if it was well founded.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Wings are in, Honey BBQ wings at my house in ten mins!
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
1 cm of oil
that doesn’t sound like a lot. You probably should use at least 2.5 cm for better frying.
I was skittish about having that much hot oil that close to me. they turned out fine, i just turned them once and gave them a bit more time
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I do my wings on the barbecue; or you can bake them. They take longer but you don’t get the calories from the oil.
by KellyStephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I like the Cooks Illustrated Method
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I'm probably one of a handful of people
who think it’s funny that they named Michael Keaton’s character in The Other Guys “Gene Mauch”
(Out on DVD today is why this occurred to me)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Nice. Keaton grew up in Pittsburgh, and was at the showing of Game 7 of the 1960 WS (on MLB-N tomorrow night).
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
4.25 for our catchers
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Is this kind of like replacing a 16-14 pitcher with two 8-7 guys? Given Martin’s decline, I guess not.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I am anxious to see what Martin got from the Yankees. My guess is $4.5 million, plus incentives. But that is just a guess.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Canada issuing Ferguson Jenkins postage stamps. If I get some, I will trade them for some Mad Dog stamps.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This is almost bannable
what if everyone started cooking great things at home while we were working and talked about it.
Next thing we will have “like this” as comments. GG
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
alright alright, I see your point, I’ll keep facebook type comments on facebook
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Like This:)
Honestly, I’m just having fun, I enjoyed your fear of oil, I had kind of gotten the idea you were fearless.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Hot things, I’m terrified of getting burned
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
You need
to drop by the house and pick up a few of my 100 aloe vera plants if you are going to play with oil.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Are you still talking oil or boyfriends now?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
nice of you to see the open endedness of the statement
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like watching Iron Chef when pork fat is the secret ingredient!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you took a picture
and are about to post it.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Phil will choke me with my own first child’s umbilical cord
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not
You really need to take the Michael White approach to Phil’s posting. He believes in nothing
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
seriously so tasty. I put away a pound of chicken and didn’t even notice. My thighs will later of course, I’m required to say by lady law.
by Josie Becker on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I like it if thats the case
Joe’s got a nice midrange game
by SeanMillerSavior on Dec 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
For a guy
who destroyed the Timberwolve franchise he was a very mediocre talent.
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mediocre yes
but I think he will fit well in the 10-15 minute a game bench role that Theo was supposed to fill
by SeanMillerSavior on Dec 14, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Good
hope he rediscovers his fast ball.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I am actively starting to freak out about this final
but the good news is that it’s due at 9 am tomorrow morning, so if I need to pull an all nighter, I so will.
Winter is coming.
the bitch of it
is that we’re not supposed to take more than 2 hours typing everything out. So I’m trying to write out notes to everything by hand. Blah. It’s like taking the final twice.
Winter is coming.
Crap
I still need to read your paper
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry I blew it. My brain is not working well. The second part of the A+ exam is going to be much harder for me.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 14, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Prior to Yankees
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
The Inverted W
stands for Win!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
On the Cliff Lee signing
From what I’ve read, the only scrutiny (which seems to be overstating it) being given to the deal is whether he’ll be worth the money as he gets older. But if we are to give this point serious consideration, then I posit this query: Do you think the Phils could have better spent the money this offseason? Specifically, why weren’t they the frontrunner in the Crawford sweepstakes? After all, there are some big shoes to fill after having lost Werth. Crawford signed (on average) for less annually than did Lee, not to mention Crawford is a few years younger than Lee. Plus, the Phillies already had a terrific rotation without Lee.
Perhaps the answer would be more interesting coming from Phillie fans, but I want to get your take on it: Did the Phillies make a big mistake in not pursuing Crawford now that we know the money was available?
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:27 PM PST reply actions
The choice was get the best free agent
or the 2nd best, they went for the best, and gave him fewer years then Crawford.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
But
Does the best free agent improve the team more than the 2nd best would have?
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Does it matter if they are only going to sign one?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Why wouldn't it?
Not sure I follow you. The contributions each of the two make are pretty dissimilar.
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Why wouldn't you take the best player you can get?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Basically this. It’s almost always better to take the best player possible and work around him than it is to take a lesser player that might be a better fit. Even better idea in this case when the two are making almost the same.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I just question it for the reasons stated above. To me, the Phillies have been successful in recent years because they’ve had the right balance of good pitching and good hitting. Clearly, their focus now is on pitching and I don’t want to say that’s wrongheaded, but with Ibanez on the decline, Rollins on the decline (?), and no Jayson Werth……Brown has promise, but he has yet to prove it at the big league level. Is it enough to have just Utley and Howard?
BTW, fuck Carlos Ruiz.
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
They have enough offense
that getting the best player available, even if he is a pitcher, is still the best move imho. They would also be blocking Dominic Brown by signing Crawford, and Brown is their number 1 prospect I believe.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
They made the right move
We would be ecstatic if we were Phillies fans right now.
Really?
I’d be kind of irked if Ned had that kind of money and spent it on Cliff Lee. The Giants owned him. He couldn’t handle the West.
Seriously I would be irked.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Would you really?
Would you be focused on Lee’s contract or the fact that you could buy a random ticket and have an 80% chance of watching a Cy Young candidate that night?
Do, do, do you have it?
Yes
If I had 23 Million to spend I’d rather not spend it on one player.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Certainly not saying Phillie fans don’t have reason to be happy with the signing. He’s definitely the best pickup they could have made at THIS point in time.
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Also if I have to chose between a long term contract for a hitter and a pitcher, I usually say pitcher because of this.
Will Carl Crawford ever not be the best left fielder on the Red Sox organization in the next 7 years? It’s very possible.
Will Cliff Lee ever not be one of the five best pitchers in the Phillies organization in the next 7 years? Probably not.
A contract is only truly a disaster when it starts blocking better players. It’s much less likely to happen to Lee.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think the Phillies could have shopped Brown for a quality pitcher?
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no question, they could have probably got almost anyone. But anyone you could get would either be: way worse than Lee, or expensive enough that you probably couldn’t afford him and Crawford.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Lee’s value – Blanton is much bigger than Werth – Dom Brown.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I like this question
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Thanks
With regards to the original question, what are your thoughts?
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
The rotation might be overkill in 2011 but in 2012 once Oswalt is gone they will want the three studs, plus if they cannot extend Hamels they know they will have Halladay/Lee after 2012 so I like it for them in the long term. Short term they well probably miss some offense but with that pitching I’m not sure how much they will miss it. They do have Dominic Brown so they have the best offensive prospect ready to step in, so that had to be part of their thinking.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
But
Is Oswalt as a non-Phillie in 2012 a given? Ibanez comes off the books at the end of the year and assuming they find a trade partner for Blanton, then they’ve freed up a decent sum of cash for next year. Granted they’re faced with the decision of how to keep Hammels, but……isn’t it plausible they can have the cake and eat it, too?
by Christopher James on Dec 14, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
They already seem to have plenty of cake if you ask me
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Nah Nah Nah
I’m getting a Holiday Present from the Dodgers. I can be so 9 sometimes without working very hard at it.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I like the
snowglobe i got with the glove holding the thinkblue rock. Was unimpressed with the 50 Anniversary globe.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
my mom went to some DS luncheon event the year of the snowglobe where Tommy (the good one) and Ned spoke. They gave her a snowglobe in a box and she had Ned sign it for me. Still have it, seeing as how he has my dream job (she told him I wanted his job someday). IIRC he signed it ‘Gary, Best Wishes. Ned’
Still kind of cool to me.
Do, do, do you have it?
Nice
It is the little things you don’t have to do that you do that define you.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Ran into Ned Colleti at 7/11 on the way home
“Dioner Navarro” i said.
“That’s right.” said Ned, “All we need are Matt Guitar Murphy and Blue Lou and we’re getting them next.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions
Vin is going to love Dionar
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
General manager Ned Colletti is still looking for a left fielder (the candidates are Bill Hall, Marcus Thames and Jerry and Scott Hairston). If he doesn’t land one of them, a relief pitcher is a possibility.
Micah Owings?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I seriously love good-hitting relief pitchers.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Rick Ankiel?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
he's still
dealing with injuries last I heard. not even joking
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
would it be weird
to buy my wife a wedding band for our 1st anniversary? She only ever got an engagement ring.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Trust me, you think you’d like the band, but their constant presence just gets creepy after a while. And the bass player will constantly be hitting on your wife. No, better just to put on the iPod.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was great
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Not weird
make sure you get it at a pawn shop. They love that shit.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Is he an ultimate Ned Guy?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The luxury of a World Championship
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Assuming the estimates are right, none.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Likely none. They’d have to go over $178 million
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Does that mean that only the Yankees would owe tax?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
This just in
That seems like a poorly designed tax.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Three is also revenue sharing
that the large markets pay out to the small market teams. The Dodgers and Angels would be among to payees in that group.
It was useful for all of 3 years?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Why The Hell Are We Still Looking For a Relief Pitcher?
That’s what Colletti said he was doing at the start of the off-season. We have acquired two since then, so did Colletti really mean he was looking for THREE relievers? And don’t we already have seven?
Broxton
Kuo
Jansen
Belisario
Troncoso
Padilla
Hawksworth
And then there is Elbert and Link, who to my mind should have been given a chance to win jobs in the MLB bullpen in spring training, but now have no chance. And Colletti STILL wants another reliever? For God’s sake.
I doubt Ned considers Troncoso a lock for the pen. Dude was awful last year.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Troncoso was PERFECTLY FINE Apart From Torre running Hinm Into the Ground
First 22 relief appearances of season: 3.48 ERA
Final 13 relief appearances, after recall from minors: 2. 60 ERA
The crappy Troncoso was purely a product of Torre’s over-use, and we were all predicting Troncoso’s arm was going to fall off. And we were right. His arm fell off. Funny thing is, when it fell off, everybody started blaming Troncoso rather than giving him a pass because of Torre.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think the blame went how you remember.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
In Saying Here That Troncoso
…“was perfectly awful last year” you are blaming Troncoso
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
He was awful
thats not an assignment of blame, its SCIENCE fact
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
That Troncoso was bad?
Did you see him give up bomb after bomb?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
That Was A Particular PERIOD of Awfulness, After He Was Badly Abused
Try looking at his WHOLE season. He ended the year strong after he got away from Torre for a while. And that is why he is not a Cory Wade case. Wade never recovered.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Its too bad we have to play a full season
if only we could only play a period of games
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Are You Pretending To Be This Dense?
ANY fucking reliever is going to break down if he is used without adequate rest days. Look what happened to Broxton, the best reliever in baseball before June 26 of last year.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
its called snark
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
we has it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Don't brag about it
Snark is not for everyone, and I kind of find this prodding of a solid poster irritating.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I'm not really trying to prod anyone
just making a joke that we always use. Like TWSS or BlameKemp. I never really like it when arguments here get heated either. Disscussion is fun though.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Apologies. But YouShould Have Used An Emoticon If You Didn't Want To Be Taken Seriously
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't being completely un-serious
I just don’t think you can look at his stretch at the end and completely throw out his period of awfulness in evaluating him.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Well that or relatively poor peripherals caught up to him.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
WRONG
its Torre’s fault. SCIENCE FACT.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Don’t get me wrong Torre hilariously abused him, but Troncoso never had the types of numbers that would make him a dominant reliever.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I completely agree
and I also have been known to blame Torre for Broxton’s struggles, I just don’t think we can assume that all of their problems are blameable on Torre, or that we can assume now that he is gone they will bounce back. Troncoso had ONE good year, and a few good relief outings at the end of last year should not make him a lock for the roster.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I think we can blame
Torre for abusing his relief pitchers.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
sure
but I’m not going to assume all of their problems are because of Torre and him being gone will allow them to magically get better. Relief pitching is volatile as all get out.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I'm sorry. It's my fault.
I needed innings out of Broxton and Trocoso for my Fantasy League team last year and I asked Torre to help me out.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Nobody Argued That He Was a Dominant Reliever
He was a solid middle reliever, and you know sinkerballers rarely put up big K rates. In fact, Torre abused Troncoso precisely because he was a good middle reliever and sinkerball, as he was always hoping he could induce double plays.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I do not know
where you got your ERA’s from.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4685&position=P
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Oh
so you cherry picked, I thought that was a full season worth. So your saying he was over used in the beginning then sucked, then recovered in the minors and did okay for us in the end?
Still think he has a hard time making this team but when the sinker is on, he’s very useful.
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Fine. Ramon Tronocoso put up very poor stats after having his arm thrown off by Joe Torre. Maybe with more care he may be better, however, I do not know if Ned believes going in with Troncoso is the best option, therefore he would express his desire to acquire another relief pitcher this off season.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
That is not an accurate interpretation of the comment. Troncoso did not pitch well just as Corey Wade did not pitch well after over use. Wade never bounced back, maybe Troncoso well but they will find out this spring.
If Ned does not get another relief pitcher I’d have to think that Elbert would have the inside track on the other left hand slot not the right handed Troncoso.
If they are not trading Broxton, I do not understand why we would be in the market for another relief pitcher.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
This might be a dumb question
but how exactly would you avoid overusing relievers. I am sure one could argue that Scioscia blew out both Shields and K-Rod a few years ago because the Angels had so many close games and he would use them all the time.
Unless you are either way ahead or way behind (and especially in the NL where you change pitchers for offensive purposes) isn’t just a part of the game that you will be used sometimes a lot and sometimes not enough?
Going mostly off memory, but it seemed like Troncoso would go back to back days a lot when there was no way he could have changed the outcome of the game.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 14, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
How dare you forget
Donnely.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Put together a rotation
that starts with Lee, Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would imagine in the reliever he is looking for is a veteran lefty.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
They don’t get more veterany than Jesse Orosco. He is available.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 14, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would do it just for the series with Arizona, when Orosco sneaks in and puts eye black in Gibson’s cap.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
and he'll say
“No wonder you came in 4th last year”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i enjoyed that story.
speaking of ST, I wonder if Donnie will give the team a Herb Brooksian speech in ST, “This team doesn’t have enough talent to win on talent alone.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Even if those 9 were perfectly fine
I don’t think the Dodgers get away with using only 14 pitchers in 2011.
I don't see a lefty on that list other than Kuo
There is no way they want to start the season without another lefty in the pen. Unless/until a LOOGY is signed, Elbert has a shot at that job.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Does it bother anyone that...
Russ Martin is apparently good enough for the Yankees but not for the Dodgers?
Only if the Dodgers
had not offered him something very close to what he eventually signs for.
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We offered him a fair deal
he went elswhere. Who’s fault is that?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Kemp's
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Joe Smith acquired via Spero Dedes
Deal cannot be finalized until tomorrow because Joe Smith was a signed free agent and cannot be traded until December 15th. Exactly like MLB free agents signed cannot be traded until June 15th.
So, the Lakers are staying quiet for now.
Sasha is still on the bench.
is it
for Sasha?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah it looks like Sasha and a first round pick to the Nets for Joe Smith.
Apparently the Lakers will save a lot of money so that’s the motive.
A little over $9 million, per cap expert Larry Coon.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
i know
they’ve been trying to move Sasha for awhile.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
3 way deal
The New Jersey Nets agreed to trade Terrence Williams to the Houston Rockets in a three-way deal that will land them Los Angeles Lakers guard Sasha Vujacic and a pair of first-round draft picks, sources confirmed to ESPN.com.
The trade, which has been agreed upon in principle, will also send Nets veteran power forward Joe Smith to the Lakers, while New Jersey will receive Los Angeles’ 2011 first-round pick and Houston’s 2012 lottery-protected first rounder, sources said.
lol
hard to slip cheap into Jerry Buss’s name.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 14, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
and those late 1sts are never a given. They also picked up 2 pretty good players in this draft and are pretty set otherwise so…
Plus, I’ve been wanting them to dump Sasha for almost 2 years now.
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