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Dodgers 200 Minor League Countdown: 170 - 161

Here is the next part of my Dodger minor league countdown.  While we are still a long way off from the real Dodger prospects, at least the names are getting a little more interesting and recognizable.  Also, I know everyone was waiting to see where Roman Pena would rank, since he is the high profile player we got in return for our top prospect Preston Mattingly.

170.  Carlos Mercedes, 1B (33 games in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2009

6’2”, 190 lbs, 19.75 years old, bats right handed

.253 average, .779 OPS, 2 HR’s, 9 RBI’s, 0 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 159;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Carlos Mercedes is a young Dominican player who made his professional debut in 2009.  He was only 17 when he played his first professional game, and his lack of experience showed.  He hit just .133 during the 2009 season, and had an OPS of .486.  In 2010, however, Mercedes showed some improvement in the DSL as he almost doubled both this average and his OPS.  Even still, Mercedes didn’t have a great season as he only collected 9 extra base hits for the year, and amazingly struck out in 40.4% of plate appearances.  That number makes Kyle Russell look like a contact hitter.  In addition, the fact that he plays 1st base doesn’t help his cause because you generally expect big offensive numbers out of a corner infielder.  Because he’s still just 19 years old he still has a chance to make a name for himself, but it’s going to take a big season in 2011 for that to happen.

Star-divide

169.  Joseph Lincoln, C (15 games in Pioneer League in 2010)

Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 34th round

6’4”, 210 lbs, 22.5 years old, bats right handed

.179 average, .484 OPS, 0 HR’s, 4 RBI’s, 0 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: N/A;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Joseph Lincoln is a big catcher that was drafted out of Missouri Southern in the 34th round of the 2010 draft.  In his one year with the MSSU Lions (he had previously played one year each a Maple Woods CC and Kansas University), Lincoln hit .434 with a team high 53 RBI’s and 11 homers.  Going back to his high school days, Lincoln had an incredible senior season as he hit .629 with eight homers, 51 RBI’s, and 16 stolen bases.  Unfortunately, Lincoln’s previous success didn’t translate to his professional debut.  Joseph only got into 15 games, and in his limited at bats Lincoln hit just .179 and did not record an extra base hit.  In addition to his size, the good news is that Lincoln will play the entire 2011 season as a 22 year old, so he is still relatively young.  There is even a chance he’ll get promoted to LoA next season, although he’ll surely be a backup no matter where he plays. 

 

168.  Jose Ramirez, OF (62 games in DSL in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2009

6’2”, 200 lbs, 22.5 years old, bats right handed

.279 average, .763 OPS, 5 HR’s, 33 RBI’s, 14 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 180;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

After a terrible debut season in 2009, Jose Ramirez turned things around in 2010.  While his stats weren’t amazing, he was good enough to be named as the DSL offensive MVP by yours truly.  The 22 year old isn’t a prospect by any means, but did rank among the DSL Dodgers leaders in several offense categories.  His 5 homers were tops on the team, as was his .763 OPS (minimum 80 at bats).  He also ranked 2nd on the Dodgers with 33 RBI’s and 14 SB’s, and did not make an error all season while playing all over the outfield.  Because of his solid 2010 season, the Dodgers may decide to bring Ramirez to a US based rookie league in 2011 despite the fact that he is a little older than most players promoted from the DSL.

 

167.  Cody White, LHP (23.1 IP in AAA, 27.1 IP in HiA, 6 IP in Arizona League)

Drafted by Dodgers 2003, 12th round

6’3”, 185 lbs, 26 years old

3-4, 7.31 ERA, 1.91 WHIP, 5.32 FIP, 5.32 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 130;     Pre 2009 Rank: 125

 

Not too long ago, Cody White was considered a legitimate Dodger prospect.  He was ranked #24 in the 2007 Baseball America prospect handbook, and in the 2008 version of the handbook he was listed as having the system’s best changeup.  Even after missing the 2009 season, White was including in the 2010 BA handbook in the LHP depth chart.  All of these accolades did not come without just cause, as his ERA was 2.68 and 3.14 in 2006 and 2007 respectively.  However, White’s troubles started in 2008.  His ERA jumped to 4.94, and his strikeout rate dropped to 5.81 per 9 innings.  In addition, his heavy workload of just about 146 innings in 2008 probably attributed to the fact that he missed the 2009 season.  White returned to the mound in 2010 and started the year in HiA.  After just a few games, however, he promoted all the way up to AAA to replenish the Isotopes injury depleted pitching staff.  Unfortunately, White was terrible in both the California League and the PCL which led to his combined 7.31 ERA.  His WHIP was also awful, and batters hit .322 against him for the season.  Currently a minor league free agent, I wouldn’t be surprised if Cody was with a different organization in 2011.

 

166.  Jesus Rodriguez, RHP (38.2 IP AAA, 23.1 IP AA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 1/20/05

6’0”, 180 lbs, 25.5 years old

4-2, 5.52 ERA, 1.56 WHIP, 5.10 FIP, 5.08 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 128;     Pre 2009 Rank: 141

 

Jesus Rodriguez has made steady progress through the Dodgers minor league system since signing with the organization in 2005 out of Mexico.  From Pioneer Rookie League to AAA, Rodriguez has spent time at every level.  He first reached AA in 2008, and then spent all of 2009 there as well.  In 2010 he again found himself in Chattanooga to start the season, but was promoted to Albuquerque in May despite 5.01 ERA with the Lookouts.  With the Isotopes, Jesus continued to be mediocre, recording a 5.82 ERA and just 18 strikeouts in 38.2 innings.  Speaking of strikeouts, getting guys to swing and miss has always been Rodriguez’s biggest problem as he has only struck out 5.5 batters per 9 for his career.  And when you are not sinker ball pitcher, the more balls that are put in play, the higher your ERA is going to be.  Also, at 6’0” and 180 pounds, Rodriguez isn’t an imposing presence on the mound by any means.  In regards to his future, the 25 year old will definitely be around next season to provide middle relief because he is a valuable organizational player.  However, it doesn’t seem like he has what it takes to make it as a reliever at the next level.  To further that point, he is currently playing in the Mexican Winter League and has an 11.28 ERA through 22.1 innings.

 

165.  Charlie Mirabal, SS (36 games in Arizona League in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 3/1/07

5’11”, 164 lbs, 24 years old, bats right handed

.295 average, .716 OPS, 0 HR’s, 21 RBI’s, 8 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 161;     Pre 2009 Rank: 79

 

As I’ve written before, Charlie Mirabal is an interesting story.  He was signed by the Dodgers after he performed well during an open tryout before the 2007 season.  Originally a middle infielder, Mirabal struggled during the 2007 season in the Dominican Summer League.  So the Dodgers decided to try him out as a pitcher during 2008, and he put up some great numbers.  He had a 1.99 ERA in 32 innings and had an outstanding strikeout rate.  Based on those facts, one would think that Mirabal would continue to pitch in 2009 in one of the U.S. based rookie leagues right?  Well, that was not the case as the Dodgers had different plans for Miarbal, and decided to move him back to shortstop in 2009 while keeping him in the DSL.  I don’t really understand this decision at all given Charlie’s success on the mound in 2008, and I decided that the only reasonable explanation would be that he had some sort of a minor injury to his pitching arm.  Whatever the case, Mirabal had another lackluster season as a position player in 2009, and I thought that the Dodgers might try Mirabal on the mound again in 2010.  However, while the Dodgers did promote Charlie to the Arizona League in 2010, they continued to play him at shortstop.  He did have a decent season, as he led all Arizona Dodgers with a .295 average (minimum 80 at bats), but he didn’t really show any other plus skills.  He has never hit a professional home run, and has average speed at best.  In addition, playing as a 23 year old, he was quite old for the Arizona Rookie League.  Since he is now probably too old be to be converted back to pitcher, I can see Mirabal playing the role of a backup infielder for the Loons in 2011.

 

164.  Chris Gutierrez, SS (121 games in HiA in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers on 3/1/2010

5’9”, 185 lbs, 27 years old, bats right handed

.312 average, .806 OPS, 1 HR, 35 RBI’s, 16 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: N/A;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Gutierrez actually had a pretty good season for the 66ers, hitting .312 and holding down the most difficult defensive position on the field all season long.  However, the 26 years old Gutierrez was much older than his competition, so he was really just doing his best to keep the team competitive in an organization that is a little bit thin in quality shortstops.  Originally signed by the Blue Jays as a non drafted free agent in 2005, Gutierrez was with Toronto until midway through 2009.  He then spent a little bit of time with the Angeles in 2009, making it all the way to AAA, before signing with the Dodgers in 2010.  At his age, I highly doubt he’ll be back in the Dodgers organization next year; especially since he is a minor league free agent.

 

163.  Pedro Tavarez, C (12 games in Pioneer League in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers 3/12/07

6’0”, 215 lbs, 23.75 years old, bats right handed

.222 average, .465 OPS, 0 HR’s, 0 RBI’s, 0 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: 104;     Pre 2009 Rank: 183

 

You’ll notice that Pedro Tavarez has jumped around in my rankings in the past few years.  Prior to the 2009 season, he was coming off of two terrible seasons in the DSL so I ranked him #183.  In 2009, however, he was promoted to the Arizona League and had a solid year with a .325 average and was named to the post season all star team.  That prompted me to rank him #104 last year, although I wrote that I still wasn’t sold on him and that he would really need to prove himself in 2010.  Well that didn’t happen at all as Tavarez played in only 12 games with the Ogden Raptors this past season, and didn’t collect an extra base hit all year. In addition, it should be noted that it wasn’t injuries that limited his playing time in 2010 because his 12 games were spread all throughout the season.  Instead, the Raptors simply didn’t have enough starts to go around at catcher, and Tavarez was the odd man out.  Given his lack of playing time, I doubt that Tavarez would be promoted in 2011, so it looks like he’ll stay in Ogden for another year.  Now 23 years old, he is losing value fast.

 

162.  Gari Tavarez, RHP (23.2 IP in Arizona League in 2010)

Signed by Dodgers in 2006

6’0”, 170 lbs, 23.25 years old

1-0, 4.94 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 3.37 FIP, 6.84 K/9

Pre 2010 Rank: 184;     Pre 2009 Rank: 149

 

After getting promoted from the DSL a US based league in 2008, Gari Tavarez’s career has stalled.  He has spent 2008 in the Gulf Coast League, and then the last two seasons in the Arizona Rookie League.  His combined stats in the US based rookie leagues over the past 3 seasons are a 5.42 ERA, a 1.61 WHIP, and a 6.5 K/9, so he hasn’t really deserved a promotion.  However, his 2010 stats were slightly better than the previous two seasons, and he is still just 23 years old, so it is possible that he’ll finally get promoted beyond Arizona 2011.  While his frame appears to be best suited for a career in the bullpen, the Dodgers are hoping that Tavarez will at some point recapture the form he had back in 2007 when he dominated the Dominican Summer League as a 19 year old with a 1.49 ERA and 9.5 K/9 in 66.2 innings.

 

161.  Roman Pena, OF (21 games in HiA in 2010 – Indians Organization)

Trade with Indians for Preston Mattingly

6’0”, 190 lbs, 24.5 years old, bats left handed

.148 average, .602 OPS, 2 HR’s, 9 RBI’s, 2 SB’s

Pre 2010 Rank: N/A;     Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

 

Roman Pena was acquired by the Dodgers from the Indians after Don Mattingly requested that his son be traded in order for him to get a fresh start.  When you look at the trade, it was really an exchange of struggling players as both Preston Mattingly and Pena have been terrible in the minor league careers.  We all know how bad Preston was, so let’s look at how Roman has done since getting drafted by the Indians in the 9th round of the 2005 draft.  His debut season was in 2006, and he actually did pretty well with a .302 average and 7 homers in 56 games.  Since then, however, he’s been dreadful.  In 2009, Pena hit .204 over a full season in the Carolina League.  Then in 2010, while repeating in HiA, Roman batted just .148 through 21 games before his season ended due to an injury.  Now 24 years old, I can’t see Pena being more than organizational depth for the Dodgers in either HiA or AA next season.  He doesn’t seem to have any tool that stands out, so I don’t really see him going anywhere.

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Cody White. Any reports on what happened to his stuff? Fell off a cliff?

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

not sure how his stuff is now

but he must have had a significant injury for him to miss all of 2009 so i’m sure that hurt his stuff

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 15, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't wait for Friday

sounds like 7pm showing of Tron at the Del Amo AMC for those interested, BWW after the movie downstairs from the theatre, then head down the street for bowling, drinks and tomfoolery from midnight to 3.

Movie is probably 17 bucks (?) due to Imax and 3D and opening night, bowling for sure is $22 for shoes and 3 hours of all the bowling you can handle.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Maddz rolling a gutter ball in her best pair of sweatpants priceless.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Anybody who goes is going to see some Baaaaaaaaaaad bowling.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, it’s stupid, but I think Tron would be one of the movies where Imax would make it more enjoyable.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You should make it a fanpost, so others who aren’t in this thread can see it.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Derrek Lee to the Padres? That is the rumor floating around on twitter.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

I don't see how that makes sense for him

wouldn’t he want to go somewhere that won’t suppress his numbers and try to have a bounce back year?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It use to be that PetCo supressed numbers for LH more than RH.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably just glad to have a job too.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

We can trade Loney to the Padres for more relievers.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Man

I’d like Derrek Lee.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought this about Fred McGriff. Not sure if there is a comparison there, but still.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowl of Dicks vs. Rapistberger would be a helluva playoff matchup.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

Would be a good game, but the damn Steelers would pull it out.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Took me about 10 seconds but I got it. BoD was the “hard” one.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

i like that you are calling him that now.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

How much does Mirabal make as the backup SS at Great lakes?

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

$12,000 for the season?

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Back to back Tavarez in the middle

Sorta like hearing “It Only Takes A Minute” and “Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel” back to back on K-Earth 101.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah saw that. How does one catch typhoid fever? Mosquitos? Bad Mexican food?

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Served food by Mary.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He's done
“I just think it’s a blessing in disguise. Maybe it’s the Lord telling me to ease up a little,” Bell said. “Life is a gift and that’s what we’ve been talking about the last week. You just never know.”

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of like the Beltre appendectomy? :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s one of those guys that can drop ten pounds from sweating out a fever and not being able to hold anything down and no one would notice.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this sound like a hard set of stats for a Dodger reliever to meet

Min – 50 games
No game started (straight relief pitcher)
ERA+ greater than 110

Only one 2010 NL team had no pitcher to meet those stats, Arizona, the Dodgers were the second lowest with 1 pitcher, Kuo.

Every other NL team had at least 2 pitchers with those stats.

The 2009 Dodgers had 4 pitchers, Broxton, Mota, Belisario and Troncoso.

Going back, 2006 Dodgers had 3, 2007 Dodgers had 4 and the 2008 Dodgers had 3.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

No

One its the randomness of relief pitching but there are two things that the Dodgers apparently wanted to do to address that, get guys who will pitch later into games and then not have to audition the back end guys (though most of those have worked out for Ned) in Spring Training.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But is Guerrier that guy?

That’s the $12 million question. Per Jon Weisman:

But since 1990, again according to Baseball-Reference.com, only three relievers above age 30 have had as many as five seasons with WAR over 1.0 without striking out more than 7.0 batters per nine innings (Guerrier’s career high). And none of those pitchers — David Weathers, Mike Timlin and Steve Reed — did so in more than three consecutive seasons.

The Dodgers have paid for what they think is certainty, but in reality is nothing but.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Except a guy like Guierre isn’t more likely to be good with the Dodgers. He’s a flyball pitcher, and the Dodgers have one of the worst outfield defense in the majors.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They can play Gwynn a lot.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I will wait until I know who all of our outfielders are before commenting too seriously on that one. Atleast our home ballpark supresses the heck out of triples.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Two of our outfield spots are decided. One is Matt Kemp who was rated as the worst CF in the majors by UZR/ +/-, and Andre Ethier who is rated as one of the worst RF in the majors by TZ/UZR.

A LF isn’t going to help unless that LF plays the best defense ever.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t believe that Matt Kemp is the worst CF in the majors. I don’t believe that Andrew Ethier is one of the worst RF in the majors. I would put them both close to average.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Kemp on CF.

I think Ethier is below average at RF and probably should be moved to 1B or LF soon.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to bet on it, I’d say Kemp is slightly above average in CF and Ethier is slightly below average in RF, combining to be average when added together. So I’d say we have an average outfield defense heading into our LF signing.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

the most games pitched by a Dodger bullpen pitcher in Torre’s time was 73, both Troncoso and Broxton hit that number in 2009.

18 relief pitchers had 40 or more appearances from 2008-2010 for the Dodgers ranging from 41 to 73 games, that number is pretty consistent for the rest of the National League during that time (St.Louis and Philadelphia had 19 pitchers, the Giants had 18).

I always felt it was one of those Torre myths about his overuse of the bullpen since it was fairly similar to rest of the league.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee has a backloaded contract

which makes sense given their big payroll in 2011; from the Philadelphia Inquirer:

2011: $11 million
2012: $21.5 million
2013: $25 million
2014: $25 million
2015: $25 million
2016: $27.5 million cub option ($12.5 million buyout)

Option becomes guaranteed if Lee pitches 200 innings in 2015 or 400 innings combined in 2014-15.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

But by the time that option vests, Ryan Howard will be sipping Cognacs in navy blue pinstripes.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

cub option

Trading Lee and some 2B prospect for Ivan DeJesus, Jr.? (I know, Lee/Bowa is really, really stretching it.)

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

It’s built into the deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He’ll need a back loader to move all that cash.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Lidge, Oswalt and Ibanez

come off the books when the contract really kicks in (2012), though Oswalt with a possible option.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Those last two years could be brutal. The idea of paying a 38 year old guy with a workhorse history $25m+ is really gross.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Question: when the contract was first reported, the vesting was described as “very makeable.”

But 200 innings from a 38-year-old? Or 400 from a 37-38-year-old? He could miss that.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Well if he is an "Ace"

He could do it, Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Randy Johnson, all did that post age 36 since 2005. Jamie Moyer did it twice too.

However no pitcher in 2009 and 2010 who was 36 or older has pitched 200 or more innings.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

So I guess this isn’t Derrek Lee?

by berkowit28 on Dec 15, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

has anyone heard this?

Phillies rotation being called R2C2?

I liked H2O last postseason better.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, I saw it on twitter a day or two ago.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

R2C2 is good

The best one I saw was HOHLee Shit

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

awesoke

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

HOHLee Shit is very good.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad they’re going to be like HOHLee Madison.

Fucked.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster Olney?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Just read it on Yahoo.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No, he always “Heard this”.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But I read it on Yahoo.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s stupid.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Shouldn't it just be

GPSE?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 15, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice sideburns

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 15, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Also kind of looks like he’s surprised he hit the ball

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 15, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure Heyman likes the deal and is impressed with the Dodgers’ off season.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s dumb then.

I’d rather take 10/2 than 12/3 and assume I can find 2mil in free agency.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If that was in fact the offer, which we don’t know. Could have been 2/$9m.

But with something as volatile as middle relief, it’s probably better to take the more guaranteed cash, given the volatility of the position.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I would definitely take the 12/3

He could completely suck in a year or two.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

but I also read ( I thought) that Boston offered 2 years with a vesting option. You’d think even if it was 2/9 with an option, that the option would be worth more than 3mil.

Regardless, I’m happy for the guy, and I don’t really think there is a wrong choice when you’re talking about the difference between making 12 million dollars or 13 million dollars over the next three years (you’re still doing pretty okay regardless). It’s still stupid for the Dodgers to spend that much money on the 7th inning.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

“So I says, that third year gets ’em every time”

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Dylan Hernandez has Russell Martin contract news.

Can earn up to $5.4 million total with NYY if he catches 120 games.

Under the Dodger offer, if Martin caught 120 games he would have received $4.8 million total.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

He’s no Jody Reed.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

In other words, the Dodgers had the slightly higher guarantee and slightly higher max dollars, but the Yankee incentives are slightly easier to reach.

The Dodgers made a fair offer.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Russell Martin, 2013 Dodger catcher

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Slight correction

Hernandez says the Dodger incentives were $1.1m total, so his max of $5.3m with LA was actually less than his max with NYY.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

I had no idea they were bringing that back.

I figured, now that reality TV exists, there were already enough outlets to sell your dignity to get on TV.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This has been around a long time with Wayne Brady. Sadly it is one of the full shows I can watch in Internet TV with Windows MCE

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the gold cowboy. I’d love to see a brokeback mountain with him and a silver cowboy

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Wayne Brady is no Monte Hall

He’s not even a Bill Hall.

Would Drew Carey be a better Monte Hall than Bob Barker? Would Wayne Brady be a better Bob Barker than Drew Carey is? When does Ryan Stiles get a game show?

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather see Arsenio than Monte. Hell I’d rather see Dante than Monte.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh, I misspelled Monty Hall

Monty Hall, dead or alive? Hint: he was born in 1921.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Clearly I typed Monte because I have no F-ing clue who you’re talking about, but I wish I did.

Josie suggested Trivial Pursuit night, I would show up to drink and shoot the shit, but I would be terrible at such a game.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Monty Hall was the original host and a developer/produce of the original Let’s Make a Deal.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s what I figured, and I enjoy the show, so it makes me sad to not know it’s origins.

Love getting these little tidbits though. I come to TBLA to get learned.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Monty is alive. Apparently he co-hosted for a week with Wayne Brady.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't use the NYT as a source.

They said Earl Weaver was dead. Naturally, Earl denied the allegations.

by Nolij on Dec 15, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Plans set for Friday

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/8/1865426/tbla-karaoke-night-2-the-holiday-edition

Scroll to my comment at the bottom of that thread for details. Should be a fun night!

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

scroll?

Just ‘z’ to it!

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Z it good

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

T-shirt!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Z you there?

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Z U Next Tuesday?

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh, this sounds cool

from Sons of Steve Garvey, Talking about stadium innovations being introduced at the winter meetings.

At one booth, Brian Traudt explained his company’s innovation, which could improve the fan experience at stadiums, unless some people actually enjoy waiting in line for three innings for a cheeseburger. The product, Bypass Lane, is a kind of E-ZPass for concession stands that is administered through an application on a smartphone.
The user enters the stadium and confirms its location via GPS. Once the section, row and seat number are included, the application identifies all the concession stands and provides menus. The fan orders — and pays — from the phone. When the order is ready, the fan receives a text message to pick it up at a lane dedicated to Bypass Lane orders. The fan can skip the longer lines — though perhaps not the jealous glances of other fans.

Fans may also buy souvenirs, hats and jerseys with the application. Bypass Lane also has a feature called Last Call, which notifies patrons when beer sales are about to conclude.

"We really believe this is going to revolutionize the fan experience," said Traudt, the director of venue operations for Bypass Lane. "Fans can spend more time watching the game in their seats instead of waiting in line all that time."

A few feet away, another company, Stadium VIP, was selling a similar service. Started by the company that owns Priceline.com, Stadium VIP can also facilitate price reductions to move stock late in games, and in some cases, food can be served to the fans in their seats. So far these services are available at only a handful of stadiums, but the concept was introduced just last year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

That would be awesome if AT&T actually worked during a sell-out at Dodger stadium.

by LA Taco on Dec 15, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

We’ll just call the Bypass Lane “The VeriZone”

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Russell Martin will be Comeback Player of the Year

Russell Martin will have a big comeback year with the Yankees because the “J Martin” uniform name curse has been lifted by signing with NY: their uniforms have no player names on them.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

In 2010, only one uniform number was worn by three different Dodgers

Can you name the number and the players without looking it up?

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

35

Ortiz, Taschner, Lindsey

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You should never be eligible for such questions

Yes, in that order.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I should have let that ruminate for a while. My bad.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You really knew this right off the top of your head

Why?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Because

he is the boss.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Brox is coming into big, big bucks sooner. He’s already at $7M this year. GMs also fear Kuo’s elbow will explode at any minute.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Kuo is a bad motherfucker.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Shut yo’ mouth!

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man, you better wash your mouth out with soap.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

or hit himself across the knuckles with a ruler.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He's apparently a software bot anyway

so you’d need to find his programmer and punish him/her.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're Dana Eveland and Oscar Villareal

besides the fact that you haven’t exactly been stellar in your recent career (even assuming you’ve had a recent career is a stretch), are you looking at the Dodgers MLB pitching staff and asking for your contract to be chewed up, spit out and booed off stage?

Especially since their alternative to playing Major league Baseball this season is having to pitch in the hellhole of ABQ, it’s not exactly a place for struggling pitchers to rebuild value.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe they have escape clauses built in. Neither guy will see L.A. unless, well, you know.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

eh

maybe Oscar Villareal won’t care, but Oscar Villarreal is probably sweatin like a Viconathan Broxilla baby right now.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

huh?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

forgot his second R.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, couldn’t decide who sweats more between Padulia and Broxton.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at Quentin for Broxton

I think I might try to extend the deal to be Broxton and Troncoso for Teahen and Quentin. Quentin could play LF obviously but then we could use Teahen to platoon with Blake and be another lefty off the bench. Teahen is locked up for a bit more money than he deserves at this point, but the deal ( I think) would still be a moderate cost savings for the Dodgers.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 PM PST reply actions  

I like the idea of Teahen and Quentin

left handed hitting Teahen could be useful just think it would take more then two relief pitchers. I don’t really think the White Sox would be interested in either player. They have their closer in Thornton, they are not going to spend 7 Million on Broxton and Troncoso has zero trade value at the moment.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

figured he had about as much trade value as Teahen.

I don’t think Broxton for Quentin is happening anyway, but if it were to be discussed, I’d try to extend it to include Teahen.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

I know it’s only a 16 game schedule, but the fact that the Vikings have 54,000 season ticket holders is astounding to me. I’m sure some of them may be mini-plans or whatever, but still. Means at any given time only 9,000 seats are available.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

If it’s Bears vs. Steelers in Super Bowl XLV, that’s a turnover fest waiting to happen.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

Don't forget maybe the greatest 7th game in a World Series is on tonight

at 08:00 MLB TV for the first time in 50 years the 1960 game seven.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Werth dumps the grunge look

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Werth-wasn-t-the-happiest-person-to-learn-Lee-?urn=mlb-296519

That looks more like the guy my wife was nuts about.

Full no trade, wow,

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Guerrier Signing

If anybody wants my take, I present it in the form of venturing the opinion that just as closers have theme songs, so should GM’s, and hereby decree this one to be Ned’s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54mf61KN7wA

by CanuckDodger on Dec 15, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

double heh

was hoping you’d check in.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is it, youtube gets firewalled.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

“How Sweet to be an Idiot”

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you just upset that Troncoso or Belisario are being forced off the roster?

I cant for the life me understanding spending any amount of money on a reliever that has a 5.5 K/9 rate.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I cant for the life me understanding spending any amount of money on a reliever that has a 5.5 K/9 rate.

I cant for the life of me understand spending 3.5 Million on Barajas

I cant for the life of me understand spending 7 Million per year on Juan Uribe

I can’t for the life of me understand that we have spent 110 in payroll and have no left fielder other then Gibbons/Gwynn

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's the spirit

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the Jay Z version of that song playing in my head and those lyrics actually fit.

too funny!

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I am big on meter and rhyme.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Instead of Jayson — we get Worse
Instead of Cliff Lee – we’re a curse

by LA Taco on Dec 15, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Come ‘11, our fate’s sealed
There’s no one to play left field

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I can at least justify Juan Uribe.

But the other 2 points..i got nothin.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So:

Rod Barajas – 3.25
Matt Guerrier – 4

For just a little more the Dodgers could have signed Lance Berkman.

This is about as bad as the fox years when it comes to utlitizing a payroll efficiently.

Which SABR GM will be hired to fix the mess?

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Joe Morgan

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

None

and when find someone who actually builds a team that way, let me know.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The Red Sox and early 2000 A’s say hello.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

C’mon…there’s plenty of organizations that build teams thru trying to be efficient with payroll.

They may not have the payroll to win it all..but they get the most out of what they spend.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say the Tampa Bay Rays are as close

as we will see.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I see history repeating itself.

DePo was hired in 2004 to fix a mess of inefficiencies…the Dodgers had a bloated payroll spent on guys that couldnt get on base,of relievers making multi-millions, of supposed “core” guys making way more than they should..and pretty much no prospects ready to fill in holes.

That basically describes what 2011-2012 is going to look like.

Hopefully an ownership change occurs which also brings about a new GM.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned is likely gone if he produces a losing season with a 115 million dollar payroll.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re in 84 win hell.

Only way he’s fired is if attendance drops way off…i doubt that happens. Dodger fans show up no matter what.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Attendance is a constant in these parts. Depo, Evans, they were all fired because of poor performance:money spent ratios.

I imagine the same will be said of Ned, with the exception that his deal is reportedly fairly long-term and I doubt he gets let go just to go collect a paycheck.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned Colletti won’t be fired until 2012 at the earliest, if ever.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Different

tune, didn’t you assure us one summer he was totally being fired.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought his contract wouldn’t be renewed. But Frank isn’t going to fire a guy only two years into his 5 year contract unless his Russian mystic tells him to again.

The main reason Colletti would be fired if the Dodgers never make the playoffs again under his watch, but not even making the playoffs twice in a row wouldn’t be enough of a reason to fire Colletti.

Then again, Omar Miyaya was fired two years into his extension.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the main reason Ned would get

fired is if the team is sold.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely.
New ownership almost always bring in their own people anyway…so I definitely think he’s gone.

Its not like he’s responsible for a dynasty.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but its not like the team is going to get sold anytime soon. This is Frank McCourt. The guy has no inclination of selling the team, if he did, he would have done it already.

He’s going to die with his ship, however long it takes.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the owner who fired

Depo two years into his deal and he even made the playoffs one of those two years. With Ned spending this kind of money he’s going to expect results, if these FA do not pan out I’m not sure Ned has enough to survive. Frank gave him a checkbook this winter, these moves need to work for him. JMO

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Tripon

I don’t think Colletti would be fired unless they have a losing record in 2011, or perhaps a win total in the low 80s with some sort of odious ending.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 4:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Not disagreeing

just saying with the money Ned is spending this year, Frank will be looking for results. Ned can say to him, hey you gave a 1/2 loaded gun in 2010, he can’t say that this year.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I can buy that

Ned has definitely bought himself a hotter seat.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 4:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Is it really a loaded gun if you’re just filling out the margins?

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he missed a chamber

but he has spent the money.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep everybody thought he was gone when 2009

began.

Now in Year 2 of a multi-year deal, they think he will be gone if they don’t win.

If we are to believe what we read, when Mannion was here late 2008-end of 2010 season, he was the person in between Ned and McCourt, all of these deals have been made with no buffer, so I think that further insulates Ned from being fired if it doesn’t work.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Higher payroll comes greater expectations.
Or at least it should.

Thats the thinking as to why he’d have more heat on him this upcoming year than any other year before.

Manny helped stave off the stench of the Druw, Pierre, Schmidt wastes of money…but that is getting further and further in the rear view.

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

People thought he was gone after 2008?

by Michael White on Dec 15, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Insane people are people too.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe old news but funny to me

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Oriole-Magic-Earl-Weaver-confirms-he-s-still-al?urn=mlb-295827

While beginning his regular piece, writer Ross Ramsey stated that “Texas Democrats have become the Baltimore Orioles of politics. Somewhere in heaven, Earl Weaver and [former Texas governor] Ann Richards are comparing notes on what went wrong with the teams they left behind.”

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Heard this

Getting $4 pitchers of beer is like stealing.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 4:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Don’t worry, you’ll end up paying it all back in urine.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You better get a designated driver!

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue laugh track.
BaseballAmerica Baseball America
Escondido city council to vote tonight on whether to build $50 million ballpark in the San Diego suburb for former AAA Portland club.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

Opportunity

for G Scott to run a baseball operation

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If San Diego cant support major league baseball, then a suburb isnt going to support AAA.
At least you wouldnt think so..

by Joey Joe on Dec 15, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m trying to figure out where they would put the stadium. That would be great for hardcore Padre fans: a second minor league team within an hour.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 5:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

OK I'LL BITE

There are hardcore Padre fans?

BOOM! THAT’S HOW IT’S DONE!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep looking at it, so it appears I did. However, you’re a mod, so if you delete it, it’s like it never happened, and then, for all intents and purposes, oh, no — I didn’t.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is this thread so dead?

nobody wants to talk about what Roman Pena might do in the California League next year? Or about whether or not the Dodgers should promote Jose Ramirez to the Arizona Rookie League next year?

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 15, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

I like that you have

the two car guys (Mercedes and Lincoln) back to back. Outside of that and my weak Tavarez/Tavares joke, I got nothing.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I greatly enjoyed this comment

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s the -$8 talking!

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

There have only been

two players in MLB history with the first name Roman, according to baseball-reference.com. Roman Mejias, a Cuban OF in the 50s/60s, and Roman Colon, a recent Domincan replacement-level reliever. There have been several football players; I can think of two Rams off the top of my head, Roman Gabriel and Roman Phifer. Baseball needs more Romans.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball needs more Romans.

Well, Mike Piazza did play for Italy in the World Baseball Classic.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps the Dodgers need another exhibition game at the Coliseum.

You haven’t lived until you’ve seen a 2-8 caught stealing in person.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 5:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Andy Pettitte has a Roman nose, I believe.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Roman Polanski is really short

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The other night Jay Leno followed up a Charlie Manson joke with one about Roman Polanski, probably without realizing/remembering how they are connected. It felt awkward.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s been almost 40 years, maybe he forgot

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Jay’s just a dick?

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably, but I imagine that it was his writers. Most of them are too young to remember.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmy Brogan

is older than me, I think. (At least he used to be Jay’s senior writer.)

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Real answer

I am $8 lighter and not currently in front of a computer.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 5:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I am $8 lighter

and two pitchers heavier, until your kidneys get to work.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like Pena to write a novel thinly disguising the real-life hijinks in the 2011 Cal League. Roman’s roman à clef, if you will.

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I won’t.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

GFY!

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I always do.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the real value of Brox?

Would it make any sense to simply trade him for prospect(s)(good ones obviously) and use that 7 million to sign someone?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

Seems reasonable, sure.

by Michael White on Dec 15, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

What if that is the same $7M that is needed to pay for Guerrier and Barajas?

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by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Seven million makes me sick!
Trading Broxton does the trick!
It’s a hard knock life!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

tonight

ned

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

haha nice

yeah I was being sarcastic above…not much to discuss with these guys

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 15, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

it at the very least gave him a place to play competative ball

there is no way a 18 year old Rubby would have gotten to throw 47 innings in the Arizona League in 2008 (or techincally the Gulf Coast League at the time) since there just aren’t that many innings to go around at that level due to all the newly drafted players being there. I think playing in the DSL is more beneficial than throwing simulated games in the Dodgers spring training complex.

The DSL also gives the Dodgers a place to evaluate players in a competative environment before spending money to bring them to the United States. Even if just one player makes it to the big leagues from the DSL every few years, seems like it is worth the resources to have a team down there

by Brandon Lennox on Dec 15, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you guys think about Broxton to the Brewers for McGahee? Brewers need a closer and have a prospect ready to take over at 3B and we need a 3B. With the signing of Guerrier I think Broxton is expendable. We would still have Kuo,Jansen,Belisario,Guerrier,Padilla,Elbert, and Hawksworth in the pen which is better than we had last year. Blake could then platoon with Loney and Gibbons against left handers.

by dodgers4life on Dec 15, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

YCTPYDWFPYD

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

broxton doesn't fit that mold

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No way

If we get rid of Broxton, it needs to be for a kick ass bat, and preferably someone who can play LF.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 5:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Isn’t McGahee the epitome of gritty? I’m sure he could play LF.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Broxton won’t land kick ass bat without some serious prospects going in the same deal.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Brewers don't need a closer in their eyes

they got that mustacheod guy. Axford.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s pretty good

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew it was about football stadium proposals
The three finalists are HKS, which designed the new Texas Stadium and Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis; HNTB, which designed Denver’s Invesco Field and is currently working on the Tom Bradley Terminal at Los Angeles International Airport; and Gensler, which has not designed an NFL stadium but has vast experience with all types of major projects, including the L.A. Live’s Club Nokia and the district’s Ritz-Carlton Hotel & Residences and the JW Marriott hotel.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/12/aeg-reveals-proposed-designs-for-downtown-la-football-stadium.html

and Delias was all, “It’s some mixed use development” blah blah blah. I coulda been there! And got the scoop for SBNLA.

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

could had one of them fancy photo gallery thingies once I figured out how to make one, could had shrimp with rich people. Shrimp!

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

YCESWRPIYLTDM

You can’t eat shrimp with rich people if you listen to Delias Man.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i support this

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Instead of your missed cocktail sauce

You should enjoy a cocktail this evening.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 6:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I let you down Eric, I coulda had the story, we coulda been contendas, and I let you down!

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Next time

Trust your instincts!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

New post up

Sorry, no link

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 6:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

In other words, GFY?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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SP 44
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RHP 28
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DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
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