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Dodgers Sign Matt Guerrier To Three-Year Contract

Matt Guerrier is apparently on his way to Los Angeles, reportedly agreeing to a three-year deal with the Dodgers.

The Dodgers strategy in 2011 appears to be to try and win as many 3-2 games as possible, as they have signed yet another pitcher. The Dodgers have signed reliever Matt Guerrier, formerly of the Twins, to a three-year contract, according to Erik Boland of New York Newsday and confirmed by Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated and Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times. Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports reports the deal will be for $12 million total.

Guerrier, 32, had a 3.17 ERA in 71 innings with the Twins last season, but his FIP (4.23) and xFIP (4.53) were much higher. His strikeout rate is 5.9 batters per nine innings in his career, and has been 5.5 and 5.3 the past two seasons.Guerrier has appeared in 70 or more games in each of the past four seasons, leading the American league in games pitched in 2008 and 2009. In the past four years, Guerrier has pitched in 302 games, more than every other major league pitcher except for LOOGY Pedro Feliciano.

He made $3.15 million with the Twins last season. Considering that Scott Downs, with only a cup of coffee of closer experience, signed a three-year, $15 million deal with the Angels last week, don't be surprised if Guerrier's deal is in that range. Guerrier has had exactly one save for five straight seasons.

Signing middle relievers to multi-year contracts aren't the best idea, especially when the bullpen is already full of arms. Seriously, why give any money to a reliever when Jonathan Broxton, Hong-Chih Kuo, and Kenley Jansen are at the back end of the bullpen? To me, this signals that Broxton is on the market. If so, I hope he can fetch an actual hitter who can play left field.

Guerrier would have been a Type A free agent, but he was not offered arbitration by Minnesota, so the Dodgers won't have to forfeit their second-round draft pick next year. At the very least, some corresponding move will have to be made by the Dodgers before the deal becomes official, because their 40-man roster is full. Most likely, that will mean John Lindsey will be designated for assignment.

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If this is three years, 1.42 million, I’m still pissed.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:37 AM PST reply actions  

If you are pissed what do you think Canuck is?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh

Well, I wouldn’t be…

by Michael White on Dec 15, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s a reliever with a 5.4 K/9, that throws 90. How is he different from Corey Wade?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

And the Corey Wade esque .230 BABIP the last two years.

This might actually be a worse signing than Juan Uribe.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I get it. Just laughing at the idea of the deal being $1.4MM per year.

by Michael White on Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

He gets outs

at a decent enough clip to have been pitching for a while. Aren’t outs important in baseball?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The Twins also keep handing the ball to Nick Blackburn every five days. Being able to pitch for the Twins and being good have nothing to do with each other.

.230 BABIP jesus.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

So you are saying

he is totally dependent on the Twin Defense? They don’t inspire me

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

They keep running Nick Punto out there.

I’m saying he got lucky mainly.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he is a very solid reliever

I don’t think we had a pressing need for bullpen help but then again maybe this signals something bigger is on the horizon. Let’s pull the trigger on moving Loney/Broxton for the most power they could possibly net. Would everyone be okay with that?

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by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

You put the decimal in the wrong place

It’s gonna be 14.2 now, watch.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I can understand Ned's worry about the bullpen

I can understand Ned’s worry about the bullpen
1. Kuo’s arm always has problems at the end of spring
2. No idea if Broxton can bounce back
3. No idea if Belisario will show up and if he does will he show up sober
4. Elbert has to make the team as the 2nd lefty, unless Ned further shocks us and now signs another left handed relief pitcher
5. Jansen – untested in Ned’s eyes

But dammit, three years.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:37 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, as I said in the last thread, it’s fun to think that this the prelude to a deal for a hitter*, but more than likely Ned just sees him as replacing Belli. He’s said all winter that he wanted to add a bullpen arm. The psychological trauma of watching Sherrill was too much for the man. At least we didn’t give up a prospect for him.

  • See LBB’s Carlos Quentin bandwagon

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have preferred 2 years

but I’m not going to wring my hands over this. It seems every Dodger move this offseason (except re-signing Kuroda, and to a lesser extent Garland and Padilla) gets crucified here. He is a really reliable guy, moving to the NL and a bunch of pitchers’ parks. He gets outs, so what if he’s not Mr. K/9.

Plus, we don’t give up a prospect or a pick. I do hope a hitter is coming though.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm fine with him helping the bullpen

like most people it’s the length of contract and overall cost that is a concern, given other needs. But I don’t see the problem with adding him to make the pen stronger. Depends also on what moves may go with it. Overall I’ve liked all their pitching signings, and the Lilly, Garland and Padilla contracts all seem reasonable, even a bargain.

Yah also concern over lack of help for offense this offseason which seemed a more glaring need at this point. But admittedly FA options are limited there.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably

because it just seems more money spent on the bullpen is less then what we can spend on the outfield. I’ll just use Johnny Damon as an example, we are looking at Bill Hall, I expect the difference in salary between Bill Hall and Johnny Damon is Matt Guerrier. I’d say most of us would rather have Damon.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

My goodness

If Ned lands Bill Hall, we’re probably maxed out. I never thought I’d type that.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I just can’t get over how soft Damon’s arm is.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I really question Damon’s ability to play in the field for more than 100 games.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Other then the fact he's been one of the most

durable players in baseball during his time why would you think that? He’s old, but the dude plays the game.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/damonjo01.shtml

Okay, maybe the 97games at DH in 2010 is the clue. You could be right.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep 3 years = lame

Ned likes to do what it takes to get his guy. Even if it means stupid contract length. I do want to wait to see the actual $ amounts before critiquing it. And as I said I like Guerrier overall.

And wonder if this means a trade is a brewing (not necessarily to Brewers).

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

As far as Martin goes

 my own sense is that everyone’s right. In that he clearly misjudged the market and his own value in it.

And that he also clearly (to me) wanted to play closer to home on the East Coast. So he got burned by market but probably still happy to end up where he ended up.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

This is insane

Who the fuck gives a declining setup man a 3-year deal?

The team is spending money, which is nice, but they’re not getting any better.

by Real DL on Dec 15, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

I disagree

They are getting better, just not in any of the areas of weakness.

We turned 3 vacant rotation spots into Kuroda, Lilly and Garland.
We turned Jeff Weaver into Vicente Padilla.
We turned Ramon Troncoso into Matt Guerrier.
We turned Ryan Theriot into Juan Uribe.
We turned AJ Ellis into Rod Barajas and Dioner Navarro.

The problem is we turned Xavier Paul into Jay Gibbons and seem to be okay with that.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

devils advocate:

Gibbons could really outplay his contract…maybe not but I would say he is more likely to give us the offensive production of a $3m player (in limited playing time) rather than not earning his $675K

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by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we’ll find that the third year was to get him away from the Red Sox. Ned’s often used an extra year to get his guy, starting with JP.

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It's going to be awesome when...

The combined $ for Barajas, Uribe, Guerrier, Garland, Navarro, and Padilla is = to what Dunn and Beltre get.

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by Mike Petriello on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

pain

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

but then we’d be without a 5th starter, a swingman and a starting catcher, and would be stuck with Ryan Theriot still. none of those make up for not having an Adam Dunn, but at least there is an argument to be made for not putting all your eggs in one basket.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

all fair points

And maybe you don’t get Beltre and just stick with Dunn. But I hardly consider Barajas a starting catcher, and you can fill swingman in other areas.

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by Mike Petriello on Dec 15, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The point is the money spent on Barajas was going to be spent on a catcher anyway.

I’m on board with using Uribe & Guerrier money to throw in the Beltre (or Dunn) pool, but I was and am still fine with Garland, and I like the Padilla deal too.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

as we saw last year. Some depth in the pitching dept. is important. The 5th starter ugliness and some terrible relief did the Dodgers in early in the season, before the hitting went south in 2nd half. They needed all those things.

Still… I can haz a decent RHH LF plz>

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Think of how many spots those guys fill

where as the others fill one (mind you with great offensive results)

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by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant
Colletti has been lightly decorating around the giant hole in the middle of the living room

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean the one the elephant is sitting in?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

The next move to really make everyone happy

is to trade Broxton for another relief pitcher.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

Heh

But Broxton + ? for Willingham would make me more copacetic, I’ll admit.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

me too underdog

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Dodgers don't deal a pitcher

and if Belisario actually shows up on time, they will have almost no battles for pitching jobs in spring training:

Kershaw
Bills
Kuroda
Lilly
Garland

Broxton
Kuo
Guerrier
Jansen
Belisario
Padilla
Hawksworth

I suppose the out-of-options Hawk could be fighting for his MLB life, but that is odd.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

at least he’s not Ryan Theriot.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t think we’ll try to squeeze another lefty into the pen?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Elbert isn’t on that list, but I find it hard to believe he wouldn’t at least be on the team. However, Eric’s staff is already at 12, and I can’t imagine them possibly carrying more than 12. With guys like Belisario, Padilla and Guerrier able to go multiple innings, they may even be able to get away with an 11 man staff if they decide to platoon up the lineup.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

You find it hard to believe Elbert, who left his AAA team after being upset at his demotion last year, and who has walked everyone in the last few years, wouldn’t be on the team?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually Yes

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

your love for him is becoming irrational

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Elbert Fan is laughing out load right now

he’s the only hard throwing lefty in the system currently slated for bullpen work other then Kuo. I don’t understand the comment. He just finished pitching for the manager in a style that had to open the managers eyes. His one problem was control, if they did something to solve that, you have a very valuable pitcher. Expecting the guy to be the 2nd lefty out of the bullpen does not seem irrational, it seems like the only obvious answer.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

So he struck out a few kids in some AFL innings big deal.

You would really send him out there to face a big lefty in the 8th inning with 2 on in April? No way. He needs to go back and prove himself for a couple months at ABQ. Prove it to Ned and Donny that he has a pair. Show he can do it there, and he would earn his way back.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

better to see if he can do it in April than pay 4mil for someone we may not need.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

no LOOGY is getting signed for 4 mil.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

you get my point.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

ok so what about when he sucks, and then there is no lefty to be had? Brent Leach? barf

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

if he sucks and can’t be used, then we’re in the same position we’re in right now anyway: strong, deep bullpen full of capable RH pitchers.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

then I would just go with the righties for now.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I see no cheap LHP available

do you?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I would make a LHP NRI reality show where winner gets #25

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Where's Josie when you need her?

She could whip up a promo for that reality show! Get Paris Hilton to do the searching.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Paris Hilton gives a blumpkin to the winner.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Domed again.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

there will be no doming and not blumpkins on my reality show, it’s gonna be classy. First off you need at least two judges, one of them from the industry, so I want Eric Gagne to host with Erin Andrews. I’lll think on a promo

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I produced and directed a dating reality show called Jillionaire 2000 that was shown regularly on local cable channel in La Verne/San Dimas about 10 years ago. I have some great ideas for you.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Onan’s Masaoka’s Last Man Left.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay I get your point

my point wasn’t so much that it had to be Elbert but that we would have another LHP on the bullpen staff besides Kuo.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it's quite funny to

hear you stick up for any man named Elbert, but honestly, I know the bullpen is full and Scott will really have to prove himself in ST and maybe beyond that to get back to the bigs. In saying that, our bullpen is overloaded and I can’t see how some or all of the guys that aren’t locks, aren’t on the trading block. So Scott and others could end up who knows where.

by ElbertFan on Dec 15, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

but we also haven’t finished the offseason yet, so none of us have a clue what the opening day roster will look like.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily Elbert

but Leach, NRI, ?.

I could see Mattingly making a push for a second lefty, probably at the expense of one of those named above (Hawksworth?). A lot can happen between now and opening day.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Lots more shitty relievers we can sign.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

with Kuo being the only LHP, I just find it hard to believe a 2nd lefty is not in the plans.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I kinda agree with this, especially since they would never waste Kuo on one or two lefty batters in the 6th/7th inning. Unless Mattingly has a much different style of bullpen management that we aren’t aware of.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

What is the word on Leach transitioning back to starting? I always thought his future was Joe Beimel, but I guess he was relatively successful at starting last year.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I never believe any of the stuff the Dodgers say about converting pitchers. If there’s a need, we’ll use them however they’re needed.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

…and the Dodgers win another 1-0 game, on a single from Wes…I mean James Loney. Good night everybody!"

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't see a bullpen

with only one LHP with Kuo being used in the 8th and we can’t waste him as a Loogy. Something has to give.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Belisario gives. Or Broxton traded. Elbert makes it as 2nd lefty. Done. ;-)

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I just heard that Elbert went home after reading this thread.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Har Har

Give the man a chance now! :-P

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He was once my favorite Dodger prospect. Now, not so much.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I believe in 2nd chances

Seems like he’s back on track during the AFL, etc. If we can give Dioner Navarro a chance, who quit on his last team in playoffs, we can give Elbert a chance even after leaving the Isotopes to get his head on straight.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

And France surrendered.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Love it

France gets 4.5 inches of snow; immediately surrenders.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think it matters if the pitchers can get lefties out.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a missing comma in there. I think the bullpen is good at getting lefties out, is what I’m saying.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe crappy lefties

but I’d rather have Elbert facing Carlos Gonzalez then Matt Guerrier

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather Donnie not stick to the Torre handbook and be willing to use Broxton in the 7th if facing their best hitter is the most important moment in the game.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The glass was broken to get to that handbook only after the emergency of Broxton’s flame out though. I have to believe the glass has been replaced and that book is securely out of reach for now.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No doubt.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought this was a Joe Beimel reference!

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

nothing says only lefties can pitch to lefties.

Belisario, Troncoso and Guerrier all have fastballs that run away from lefties. As long as they aren’t dumb and leave it out over the middle they should be okay.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Did Ned go on some Japanese Dave Chappelle-esque truth-finding trek?

This sounds like Kaizen, the Japanese philosophy of improving in increments where you can, hoping to make a big enough (or bigger) improvement to the whole than trying to gain all at once.

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

I like Guerrier

Maybe it’s just because he shares my birthday. But he’s also been very good for a MR — only one season of the last six with an ERA+ below 130.

But like everybody else, I wish whatever money is being thrown at him was thrown at a LF instead.

by Nolij on Dec 15, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

I'm guessing there is a plan in place

Either Billz is being dealt with Padilla moving into the rotation, or Broxton is being dealt or Belisario is being dealt but by April 1st one of the B boys will not be on this team. Or Not

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

I need a new approach to reading threads. Nothing like scrolling, commenting, scrolling…only to realize the room is empty and people are looking at you through a little window and laughing.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

How about Eric swears at you every time you do it? :)

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Lindblom

really cost the Dodgers some money here.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

Sad but true

Amazing we don’t even mention his name anymore.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Jansen is headed to AAA?

He might be safer there anyway.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

Could be

or a trade is Brewing.

Either way, Canuck is not a happy Canadian right now.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it'll be Hawksworth who is traded!

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nor is Troncoso who is clearly the loser here.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Broxton for Quentin cannot be ruled out.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

More likely than any Brewers deal, I think.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

For $1.5 million plus incentives, per Heyman.

And yes, I’d probably still rather have Padilla’s contract than that, although I like Harden’s deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes you wonder if we considered Harden instead of Guerrier.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Because I'm too lazy to look:

Does Guerrier have any injury history?

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Not in the last 4 years

He has pitched in 302 games in four seasons, leading the league in games twice (2008-2009). Only Pedro Feliciano, LOOGY, has pitched in more games (344) in the past four seasons.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought we’d be in on Feliciano—and probably were. I’m guessing he signs soon.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Meanwhile sounds like Lakers

will get 2 2nd-round picks in that Joe Smith for Sasha trade, in exchange for Sasha and their 1st rounder.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

I’d be shocked if they even signed the players they take in the second round next year. I guess New jersey’s second round pick would be decently high (high 30s/low 40s?), but it sounds like they just traded Sasha for Joe Smith and D-League depth.

Which I’m 100% okay with. Hated Sasha.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Most disliked Laker in my book

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked Mike Penberthy more.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I was long ago hoping for his departure

Well they did add 2 2nd rounders this year, but agree with you the odds of that roster having room for yet more, pretty slim…

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

unless they trade their 3 2nd round picks for a higher 2nd round pick or late 1st round pick, or for some sort of salary relief (I don’t think that’s happening), it’s a wash.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

They got rid of a guy playing 5 minutes a game and got roughly $8.7 million of salary relief. That’s a win-win.

And Joe Smith might be able to provide a tiny modicum of front court depth.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Jerry Buss

/donates $8.7million to Dodgers LF Fund

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Not an NBA fan

but do the Lakers EVER make bad trades?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha

Not to long ago Laker fans were ready to string up Mitch Kupchak, nows he’s on the level of Jerry West.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

they did trade Shaq

but I defended that move…not a big fan of his by the end, plus it brought Lamar. They also traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

who they then traded

for Pau Gasol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

didn’t we get Pau as a result though?

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by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

Kwame was what the Grizzlies wanted…more Crittendon and the younger Gasol, who is good.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

definitely wouldn’t have been upset with Marc still on the roster, but they wanted Kwame’s expiring contract.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The Red Sox Guerrier offered two years with a vesting option, per Alex Speier of WEEI

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

We beat the Red Sox! We beat the Red Sox!

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

There are no good GMs.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I loved that show

I kind of want to watch it this winter.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

yessss

btw are we going bowling this Saturday or what?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

did we ever name a place or has this all been conjecture?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno

no one has said anything, I’m just down to hang out and whatnot.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s a lucky strike in Torrance, which would be easy on me, the one on City Walk is gonna involve a lot of hoo bah, where else is a good idea?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

well

On Saturday did you want to do the midnight bowling/black lights/flat price for 3 hours deal, or did you want to go earlier in the evening?

If you want to do the midnight bowling, there is a place by reg and GScott called Gable House that has a decent bar and it’s 22 bucks for shoes + unlimited bowling 12-3a.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Gable House! Down off of Hawthorne? My old stomping grounds

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

mine too! but I don’t think she’s talking about the torrance one if it’s by reg, isn’t reg SM bound?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He lives in Redondo.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, wires crossed, then yeah lets totally hit up Gable House, that place fucking rocks my socks like basalt

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I totally live there but this is a “girlfriend would kill me if I blew her off for bowling” situation.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do people not bring

their companions to these things? Are you embarrassed by the TBLA crew?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

At one point we had a conversation that basically went “if we ever go bowling on a Saturday night, I will break up with you”.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, I totally agreed with here.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

so will you be taking her Acura to your events Saturday? :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

This

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m missing something.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe your balls

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

dude

tell her I’ll be there, we can totally hang out. We’ll drink, be merry, bowl like morons, and then drink more. For entertainment, I will perform a rear naked chokehold on GScott.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You are going to be so bummed

to find out that Reg Acura girl has only pretended to like you.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Provided I don’t buy her hockey tickets at the VERY TOP of Staples Center again, I think we’ll be ok.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey she was okay with those…

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

oh she was?

she and Anthony were both like “Uhhhhh we are very high”

I mean obviously she wasn’t as much of a puss about it as Anthony…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s wrong with hockey tickets at the top of stapes? those would be premium dodger tickets.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

oh wait

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what this is, but I love it.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

when you are unconscious

I suspect you will like it much less :)

I’m sure reg’s gf can show us on reg.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d have to give her directions the whole time.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You should let Maddz demonstrate.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Tech

you would be bowling on a Sunday Morning, and from I’ve gathered this seems more like lets have some drinks together and while we are it, we will take this 12 lb ball and throw it down some alley hoping to hit something.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t you warn people not to bring their companions to TBLA events the other day?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife only took 2 days

to recover from the emotional scars.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I cannot remember

one post of mine from the next, the only thing I remember is what other people say.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

 i have always thought it was a bad idea

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

delia came to at least one TBLA night at DS. Didn’t that work out ok?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife came to every TBLA night at DS.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

my wife has been to the games

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't have your own shoes?

Your going to use a house ball?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you have your own shoes and ball?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

But without the hair, amirite?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That is exactly what my hair looks like when I let grow

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

the bowling fad ended before we were born dude

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

safe to say my ball and shoes are older then most of you. But it is pretty blue.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you ever bowl in leagues?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

my parents did

they said it was basically beer drinking first and bowling second

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, nice to know that not much has changed.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

My first job

at 14 was keeping score in bowling leagues. My two older brothers pretty much lived at the alley, both could keep a 190 average in their leagues. One has bowled a 300. I never put the time in they did, as I had this terrible preference to save my money then spend it on bowling.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I have witnessed a 300 game being completed once. That was pretty fun.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The worst game ever would be 291

Since the only way to get it is 11 straight strikes, then a one.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

My brother bowled a 299 a couple weeks ago. He’s still upset about it.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Was he tapped?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I almost did that once.

My first ball picked off the 7 pin, I picked up the spare, threw 10 straight strikes, and left the ten pin on my last ball. – 269.

I had a 158 average at the time. (and drunk as a skunk), so no actual skill was involved.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

In fact

many of you were probably born after I bowled my last game. I may dust off my bowling bag, pick it up and find it come apart.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

And I got my hopes up and everything.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you really just say you had bowling ball-sized blue balls?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i would go if you did that

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the 12:00 - 03:00 gig

has been created to make sure the old folks don’t show up.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

12-3 on Sat night

is my PS3 time. this is a serious sacrifice.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, we’re doing it. We’re just hoping some of y’all show up otherwise it’s gonna be a Maddz/GScott at the bar night.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

so

Saturday night or LATE Saturday night?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If someone can swing and pick me up I’ll do LATE, but I had some controversy with my mom after TBLA karaoke re: her car (even though I left early in the hopes that she wouldn’t think I’d come home straight after closing time)

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ergo if I drive it has to be regular type saturday night

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

if I can drive

I imagine I can grab you.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

whereabouts are you

I don’t mind driving either.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i might be able to get you

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

wow three offers, I’m in Carson, just off the 110 @ Sepulveda, which is one exit you can take to go to Gable House anyhow, since the 405 Hawthorne exit drops you off closer to the airport than Torrance

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

working Saturday.

I’ll be there on Wednesday.

by Grimjack on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

And still not done.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Snicker Snicker

I’d say Ned see’s our minor league bullpen depth and does not like what he sees.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

How many Rosenthals did they sign him for?

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The financial floodgates have been opened

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

To Make Me Feel Better

Can someone name something Guerrier is good at, because I’m looking really hard and not finding anything.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

apparently groundballs.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s not really a groundball pitcher. His career rate is 45.7%

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s kind of a groundball pitcher, but he’s in like the 65th percentile.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I just spit out what I hear. I think he’ll be great at getting rid of John Lindsey.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

this was Ben Nicholson Smith’s write up on MLBTR:

Guerrier led the league in appearances in 2008-09 and pitched in 74 games this past season. Not only is he durable, he is a ground ball pitcher with a career 2.7 K/BB ratio against righties. That figure drops against lefties (1.5 K/BB), but he induces more ground balls against them.

However, defense independent pitching stats like FIP and xFIP suggest Guerrier’s 3.17 ERA would have been higher if he had been less lucky in 2010. He posted solid ratios of 5.3 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 last year, but both rates were better in 2009.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

(2nd part also a quote)

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

So

He’s the guy who will come in after one of the younger bullpen arms gives up a baserunner. Guerrier will smokejump in, Weaver-like, and try to induce the DP. Can he pitch more than one inning per appearance?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't look like he's done that very often

but it could be a product of him having so many appearances.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guerrma02.shtml

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

He can pitch a lot of innings, but almost everything else in that blurb is wrong.

He’s not a ground ball pitcher, and a 5.3 K/9 is horrible for a starter, let alone a reliever.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Reg is my docent in the Museum of Stats.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

That might be hard to do.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

League strikeout rates

1980 NL: 5.1 per 9
2010 AL: 6.8 per 9

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

League average K/9 1980: 4.8
League average K/9 2010: 7.1

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Or what Eric said.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that a reflection of the changing in pitching

or that hitters just strike out more.

It’s like looking at rebound rates in the NBA, the biggest reason why you don’t see 18-20 rebound per game players, teams take fewer shots about 20% less than they did back in the early 60s – 80s.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The point is Steve Howe struck out more batters, relative to his league, than did Matt Guerrier.

C’mon, you’re better than this.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you say Howe could “blow” them away?

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I am operating on 3 hours sleep

and I just pulled out the Howe thing because I happen to remember that in 1980 is K/9 rate was lower than anyone else on the 2009 Dodgers bullpen.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

That blows me away

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

enough with the Paris Hilton jokes.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

131 of his 302 appearances in the last four years have been of four or more outs.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

That's good.

Does this make it more likely Padilla will do some closing?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Ask me after we trade Broxton

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't put too much emphasis on this, buuut

Padilla definitely would have the closer mentality. That’s one angry looking Venezuelan.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

getting outs

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

So are we doing this Saturday bowling thing or no?

I might just drive down to San Diego for the day if not, just to get out of the area for a bit.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

Enjoy the rain

Wet weather lined up from friday until ….. you get it, head for the hills, build the ark. Just remember to bring to of everything with you, including left fielders.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

There was one thing about NC that I liked, is that he stayed out of the FA market for relievers. He might overpay in terms of trading for them, but he wasn’t handing out millions on the market. So now that’s fucked. Next year will be like 2003, except closer to 80 wins than 90.

by Mike Dennis on Dec 15, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

I’d rather spend money than prospects.

You’d rather trade a McDonald everytime we need 2 months of relief pitching instead of spending a couple million?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

True

I’d rather spend money then prospects. Even if you didn’t think of McDonald as a starter he should have been able to handle the Guerrier role.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Octavio Dotel

The gift that keeps on giving.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 15, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that the Dodgers have no coveted prospects is directlyattributable to the “trade prospects instead of cash” approach that Ned has used the past few years. Very frustrating.

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

to be fair, the shine was off just about everyone aside from maybe Josh Bell (who had among the worst debuts ever in MLB history) and of course, Carlos Santana.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

McDonald was still well thought of I think. Wasn’t there an article in a Pittsburgh paper that quoted someone in the Pirates organization as saying he couldn’t believe the Dodgers would send McDonald so cheaply?

by prosellis on Dec 15, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially since you hardly ever get to trade A-ball prospects for MLB relievers. You end up trading your AA or AAA prospects that you have invested time and money into anyway, you might as well stick to your investment and sign a stopgap.

I’m always a fan of adding assets instead of using them as trade pieces. Signing Guerrier gives us the flexibility to trade from our bullpen strengths over the next two years. And considering what two marginal relief pitchers has been fetching in trades, it’s probably worth it.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

1/4 of the TBLA Position

which I’m going to guess is shared by Eric but may not be. We do not agree with Reg that Guerrier is useless, we just want some money spent on the offense and other then Uribe nothing has been. If Ned turns this into a functional left fielder then great, if we simply built a kick ass pitching staff and hope to score runs with the current lineup, then good luck because I can’t sign off on that plan.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

It's hard to argue after last year's anemic offense

that there was a need in pitching particularly when your numbers were not that bad. But as has been pointed out before, a lot of starts were given to Haegar, Ely, and Monk and while Ely had a good start, most of those were on the short side (less than 6 IP) and with an unreliable middle (due ineffectiveness of Sherrill, Belisario’s issues namely) and then moving Broxton to set up for Kuo to close, just kept that area unsettled.

I don’t know if they should have just kept Theriot, and then signed an outfielder for 16-18M for two years , maybe that would look better on paper but net about the same thing in the end.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you rather

trade an asset (like Broxton) for a legit bat (like Quentin) or sign a Bill Hall?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Great Question

and I don’t have a ready answer.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

you know who I'm hoping for?

Well, besides Fielder of course…BJ Upton. Brox and change for Upton?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Any of the options here would make me get a mini-plan. Bill Hall will not.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to think it wouldn’t take “and change” for someone with Upton’s stat lines.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I was too lazy to think of a throw-in

You don’t think they’d take the 36 K we made from the Rule 5 draft?!

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

BJ Upton out WARed every Dodger outfielder last year, and it wasn’t because of exceptional defense.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

The problem with Quentin/Willingham is that they are flawed players with injury histories that might not make them the answer we desire. Which of course could mean trading Broxton a near disaster (not that Brox is without warts).

Like Phil says, it’s a tough call. I’d like to think if we trade Broxton we can get a better bat, but that might be wishful thinking.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather trade Broxton for Quentin. Even before the Guerrier signing. We have enough depth in the bullpen and Broxton is all but gone after this season anyways.

That could be part of Ned’s thinking with Guerrier. Even if Broxton isn’t traded this season, there is stability and everyone moves up a slot next season.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

In the biz

We call this the illusion of logical forethought.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I just want to know who is going to us out of the bases loaded jams now that Weaver is gone?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

hopefully

we’ll have less bases-loaded jams since we won’t have Monk and Ely starting games.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m counting on Maddz to keep Monk entertained in 2011. They should become fast friends.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

he plays country music?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

probably not

but I’m an all around fun time. I got accused of sandbagging at pool the other day. It was hilarious.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sandbagging all the time, but I tell you, it’s only because THE FUCKING FLOOD IS COMING.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Alright Humma, we gotta get you 2 of…wait…7 of each— DAMMIT HEBREW BIBLE

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t worry about it — I hate animals. Let ’em all drown.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

:(

Can you take my cat? He’s pretty cool.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

But if I let in your cat, he’d be the only cat left on earth, and then, by definition, I’d be the crazy cat guy with all the cats in the world.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Then Eric would have to punch it…….

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

pocket pool or billiards? :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

not billiards…crappy bar pool?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Dioner Navaro

and his catching triple play prowess.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I updated the payroll worksheet, using the assumption that Guerrier will be paid 3/4/5. 2011 is at just over $110m right now.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Sure I’d rather spend the money on Guerrier than send over Withrow for him at the end of July but we’ve got a pretty set bullpen that at least IMO was not going to be a problem next year. I said before I wouldn’t begrudge Ned a second low cost lefty if he doesn’t trust Elbert yet, but we just didn’t need this. All the money we’ve spent could have gotten us a year of one of the free agent bats available. Or if you don’t want to give any of those guys 8 figures a year and I understand not wanting to, then we need to make some trades.

If our big LF get is some scrub that should be a bench player, our offense is going to suck.

by Mike Dennis on Dec 15, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

Bill Hall had the 9th highest ISO for LF with at least 350 ABs last year, above Braun and right below Huff.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

If I say this to someone in my office, what am I actually saying?

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I laughed a little too hard at this.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

One of our greatest replies ever

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno…if someone said that to me…I’d get all hot and bothered and probably fan myself with my Dodgers cap…

Sabremetrics?! /swoon

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, you know, my range factor’s well above league average. Maybe after work we can flash the leather together.

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

One trash can for recycling?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

This could be attractive, but it depends on what you are watching. Please don’t let it be “Say Yes to the Dress” or “The Hills”

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a show called "Say Yes to the Dress"?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

I have never seen either of them but I love the hell out of “What Not To Wear”

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Whenever my wife watches that show

I have an odd need to throw shit at the screen because the hosts of that show are such assholes.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I love them.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Clinton and Stacy for the win. Guilty pleasure.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Halloween party

instead of “slutty noun/occupation”, I was Ryan Miller. It was awesoke.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Next year: slutty Ryan Miller. It will be the best costume since my friends slutty Tim Donaghy.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking

Slutty Abraham Lincoln.

Slutty Ryan Miller…what would that be, the jersey and then booty shorts?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

See also: Gay Bar video.

I think you’ve also gotta take in the jersey like three sizes.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I could always tuck it under or something. But that jersey is awesome, I’m not wrecking it in the name of slut-dom.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Wear shirt, write Ryan Miller on it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahh of course. And Sabres hat so they know what’s up?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

You could call the slutty Abraham Lincoln

Dishonest Abe

and you can deliver the Depants The Nation Proclamation

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll post pictures of that, absolutely. That’s just historical

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking just the jersey.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice touch with the hand down your pants.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Even better?

They are sweatpants!!!!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

There aren't many Maddz down in S. Florida

you should run a self help seminar down here for girls and maybe it would shed some of the plasticity and replenish it with some relatability.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

so cool!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Hello, new screensaver! Also, new wallpaper.

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Not even Maddz

could have imagined that would become her pinup poster.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Oooh

can I offer a better one while we’re being creepy?

Photobucket

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

No me gusta. It’s disturbing how much that beard looks like a certain hated closer’s….

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Chan Ho Maddz

sheesh

He had the wicked playoff beard before Brian “I’m a jackass” Wilson

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh. It’s just that the memory of Mr. “I’m A Jackass” is so fresh in my head =(.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

for sure

I just remember seeing him pitch in relief for the Phillies in 2009 and being flabbergasted at his facial hair. Even Blake hung his head in shame.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Whaddaya mean!

That’ll just make it easier to slam that bread basket! “SAY IT, WILSON! SAY YOU LOVE IT!”

I can see how it might be difficult to keep from getting banned.

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s actually really easy….

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

what awful looking restaurant is that?

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Jinky’s on Ventura Blvd in Sherman Oaks

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

no, actually

it’s really really good. They specialize in breakfast. My favorite meal.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

it seems everyone knows a good breakfast place.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm down to try new ones

which places are good in your neck of the woods?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Cajun KItchen in SB or Carp!

Just went to Foxy’s in Glendale was good…made me hate myself for the day (so full)

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

is that what necessitated the squats?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha…just picked up the EA game for PS3. The workouts are awesome. Thank goodness today is an off day.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad to know Foxy’s is still in business. I can remember eating there as a kid.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a place called Pacific Diner that I enjoy.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Dish in La Canada makes a good breakfast.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dish is great.

I like Green Street for breakfast too

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Green Street is good any time of day.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked the Alcove

, does that make me a hipster?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

do you read Pitchfork

and hate all that is mainstream and popular?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you ironically only buy albums on vinyl, even though that means spending like 10x as much for music? Do you take pictures with 1960s instamatics even though you were born in 1982?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

But one can always buy vinyl unironically, right?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I plan on buying some music on vinyl

because my roommate just got a record player!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

One advantage of my age

we already own everything worth owning on vinyl.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d love to start a vinyl collection (it is a different experience), but I don’t have the space at the moment.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you plan on hanging it on your wall?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The worst thing about the rise of the hipster is the Anti-Hipster Witch Hunting and the unnecessary concern of being labeled or mislabeled.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I guarantee that Phil is just being facetious. As was I. As someone who has two siblings who are hipsters, it’s just funny. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I know that. But it’s the fact that it comes up enough that it is something to be facetious about.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Anybody worried about being called a hipster

is a hipster.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Dang

so that means if I worry about being a crappy writer then I am a crappy writer.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

No

that means you have a higher chance of being a great writer.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

this is also dependent on your alcohol to word output volume

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

honestly though

being called a hipster is such a harmless thing why would you care?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think folk like words that start with hip. Hippie, hipster, hip replacement surgery, it’s just all bad

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t like labels. I find that it inspires prejudices and it’s a way to judge someone without knowing very much about them.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe you just need to lighten up

when its being done jokingly, as was obviously the case here.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It is why I enjoy

deriding a certain poster.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be better if the bowl was full of chips, and there were chips one her shirt

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Hall, when his bat touches the ball, has power.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

That Bill Hall has a lot more power than people think.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The man did abuse the hell out of Fenway though. Never had an extra base hit go the other way.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea without a doubt. I would expect him to return to mediocrity if signed.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought his splits

didn’t play that out?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

he hit pretty much the same

at home/road based on OPS but Reg is saying he pulled everything at Fenway, taking advantage of the Monster.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

right

but does it matter what he did at fenway if he showed he can produce in other ballparks too?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea

but I think Russel Martin should have taken less money and become a Red Sox, I think his swing might have benefited from it.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

This is probably true. Yankees stadium really only benefits lefties unless you have oppo power.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If we life in a motherfucking fairytale world

where no matter who the fuck we sign, he will get lucky enough to hit .300, Bill Hall would be a better power hitter than Ryan Braun.

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It is interesting to note as Eric said earlier today

the only battle on the pitching side could be to fill that second lefty spot, maybe Belisario or Jansen are not locks to make the team and Hawksworth could end up on the outside looking in.

Pitching locks, 5 starters, Padilla, Broxton, Kuo Guerrier
Probables – Jansen, Beilsario
12th spot battle – Hawksworth, Elbert, NRIs

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

probably a good chance of one of those pitchers on the DL opening day.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

And now your NFL minute

After a tantalizing (and desperate) Thursday matchup of SF at SD, we can look forward to several big games this weekend:

3 Stars: Jax at IND; GB at NE.

4 Stars: PHI at NYG; NO at BALT; NYJ at PITT.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

I’m not an NFL fan :)

I was tempted to make GB/NE 4 stars . . .

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

if Rodgers plays...

I’d say it’d be worthy of it.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Dec 15, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Guerrier

is French for “warlike” or “warrior”. (http://www.wordreference.com/fren/guerrier)

Any doubts as to why Ned signed him? He’s good in the heat of battle. That has to be in the press release.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

Along with “durable”, “solid”, “veteran”, “ERA”, “Gets guys out”

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

How is his name pronounced?

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

can we just call him the Guerrila and be done with it?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Perrier is also a french brand name for a soft drink...

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Dec 15, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

"Grit-tier"

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It pronounces "Guairrier" I guess

He’s a warrior… :)

"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."

"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"

Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha

by Jojo93160 on Dec 15, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Like you know French!!! ;)

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 15, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dee Gordon favorited one of my tweets. I’m moving up in the world.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

which one? Twitter is firewalled on the work comp.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The naked shower pic one.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

What do we think about Grant Balfour? Could’ve have been cheaper and has much better K rates.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

He was no Eddie Lebec.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I told you I didn’t watch that show!

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

If you didn’t watch it, how do you know of whom I speak?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

you ask too many questions

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric is the

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You know what this means

Colletti couldn’t find any takers for Kemp.

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 15, 2010 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

Should be no surprise where I come donw on this

One more vote for sure, he’s fine, go get him, but the deal is likely too many years for too much money, and WTF are you going to do about LF.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

I have gotta believe that there is a deal coming for a LFer. I don’t believe for one second that front office looks at the roster as it exists and they all say that they are fine with some combination of Paul, Gibbons and Gwynn in LF. There is no way that is possible.

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, but — not to start the Bill Hall conversation all over again — but if the deal that is coming is Bill Hall… well, I’ll be upset.

Not so upset that I write any strongly worded letters, though. I reserve that kind of ire for AJ Pierzynski.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

If its not Bill Hall

It will likely be someone of the same ilk.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

:|

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Broxton and Carmelo to New Jersey for a left fielder to be named later.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

On 710 ESPN, Ned inferred that was targeting a reliever OR left fielder.

We might be done.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

you will never see him to pay up, so why even offer to bet?

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It doesn’t have to be in person. That is pretty obvious.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

All my bets get paid off, or collected, in person.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

How did you know he called his member

Walking Tall

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You'd be surprised

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes he doesn't even pay them off in person

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Compounding interest on beer is expensive.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

What

do you figure you are up to?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Did I also win a Manny beer?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Possibly

You need to remind me closer to events when we will be at the same place.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

If I only drank

more then one beer at any one time I might get a payoff but since I don’t. meh

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

We can figure out an equivalent

I will buy you a sausage, that you can eat in front of delias man. Then everybody wins.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Then I'd have to hang with Delias Man

how is that a win for anyone?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

i will get to show you my new hat.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Just because you don’t see him doesn’t mean he’s not stalking you right now. Through the window. Without pants.

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Let Eric take the fork out first.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He pounds his fist
We’re not done.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Does ned even have a plan?

In the short term most of his deals seem ok, but in the big picture….

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t know about step 2, but step three is profit

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Awesome. I think in the big picture, Colletti just needs to come up with a simple product America needs.

by SoftballHuman on Dec 15, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The Amway of GMs?

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

GM-for-Life laughs at your trivial question.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

and the plan may simply be to load up on pitchers and get the best available hitter when teams start trading this summer.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

So you say we are going to be on the other side of trading relief help for good young players?

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

no need for a trade. Canseco says on his website today he will have new video of him hitting off a 94mph pitching machine.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Our answer to Cliff Lee.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Tripon, with an attitude like that, you’ll never be the voice of negative reason.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I would rather get banned again. I would like to see how BHSportsguy try to justify this one.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like a ruling. Did Tripon actually get banned, or was the “see you in a week” comment just hyperbole?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. How the hell am I still here?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

At the end of your negative rants

you don’t insult the host.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, at that point, I was trying to piss off Eric. I succeeded.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

what if you forget to un-ban him?

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we get a choice

on the time period when it happens, they call it the SB Nation Time Out

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaa, cats are so funny in the most random times.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

For instance, when they are getting punched.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

HOW DARE YOU

Photobucket

Ok, that’s my last one. I’m done. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Russel Martin is dead to me

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

Russell Martin knew that Ned would sign a crap reliever for 3 years and decide to head for the hells.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

the hells

I’ve been to the Bronx, and this is true.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

just wait til he shows up at your father’s funeral and you just want to feel something else

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

so many ways to respond

all of them shameful

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't know why

but your outright negativity always makes me want to search for a positive feel even if I was feeling as negative as you before I read your comment.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The team might have a Kuo extension up this sleeve?

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

The Yin to your Yang?

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Xavier Gibbons Jr. might be a pretty good player. Speed, defense, plate discipline, some pop… Sign me up!

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

We just need Jeff Goldblum and a few telepods to make it happen!

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

And a fly ball trapped in amber.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah ah ah! You didn’t say the magic word!
PLEASE!!!! Goddamn it! I HATE this hacker crap!

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Even my negativity doesn’t do that. My negativity just makes the meercat throw up his tiny, tiny paws and say, “There’s just no hope for some people.”

Then the meercat gets up onto a rock, looking out for dangerous predators.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Rocking Meerkats

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched the first couple of seasons of Meerkat Manor. The females meerkats are vicious against each other, kicking each other out and their children the first chance they get.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Covers ears

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

/nieces
/Maddz Daddz

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

meh

Maddz Daddz would not be phased by that in the slightest.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

phased?

fazed.

/mr.f

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He might switch dimensions or go traveling, you never know.

:)

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by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Maddz Daddz has Shadowcat-like powers.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Tried to make that more of a tweak of Mr. F than of you, but maybe I failed…..

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I definitely did not take anything personally

I’m in a great mood because finals are over!! Laser eyes are reserved only for Eric at the moment.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not exactly Lucille Bluth here.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You opened yourself up tho. It was too cheap a shot not to take.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean to say, I’m not a big fan of tweaking =P.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I am!

/nieces
/4dad

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

They look like they are setting up a wall

for a free kick

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The last SKlarbro Country podcast brings back

“Racist Vin Scully” to talk about the McCourts, Steve Garvey owning the Dodgers, etc. Pretty funny stuff.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

yup!

on iTunes

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

was skeptical about the bit

but I loved it. I guess theres some other eps with Chris Cox doing racist vin but its kinda hard to see which is which since hes a guest almost every week. Cox’s Jerry Jones is excellent too.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

yah it grew on me

I was horrified about the idea, but now that I get it’s a parallel universe character… and this last one was the best.

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So

I need to come up with an inexpensive video conference solution that involves:
ability in China to take a notebook/netbook, with an attached camera that is flexible enough to video bikes as they come off the assembly line so we can remotely identify problems with the bikes. Anyone doing stuff like this, I could google solutions but sometimes you guys are just as good.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

Have a Mac? Facetime works pretty well if you get a long enough cord for the camera.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

We do but they don't

however we could probably get them one if that was a possibility. I’ll look into them. Thanks

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Question,

we have several factories and I don’t think they are in the same geographic location. Getting answer now.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Liutai Road
Ludu Town
Taicang City Jiangsu Province 215412

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool, not far from Shanghai. Great food there, lots to see. Get yourself a trip. :)

Is this video capability going to be used in real-time or recorded and viewed later? Can you really view the bikes in enough detail as they come off the assembly line with this type of setup? Chances are you will end up with a lot of video of people spitting.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

They are hoping

for real time, with enough detail that our engineers here can help out the QC people there.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind there is something like a 15 hour time difference. Sounds like a good excuse for a tax write-off trip to China for your company to me. Maybe that is plan B. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Google Maps suggests kayaking instead.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Call back!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

Him?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

Just think of it as a holiday gift from the Nedster.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Did Michael White make it back from Vegas yet?

I am starting to get a little worried about him. Last tweet I got was that he lost all his bets at the sportsbook and now I fear that he may have wondered off pennieless in a drunken stupor having woke up the next morning body sore and aching and wondering where the wadded up $100 bill in his pocket, with a phone number written on the back of it came from. Should we send out a search party?

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

he was posting yesterday

so he’s alive and well.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

recent texts say that he is just laying on his couch wasting vacation time.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Martin sensible

I was too late for the Russell Martin discussion this morning, but this is how I see it, and I don’t think I saw anyone else say this:

I’m sure that Martin and his agent realized that the Dodgers’ offer of $4.2 million was (probably) the market rate, and the most they’d get from any team. Therefore the Dodgers were the only team that might pay more because of past history and because arbitration would get him a lot more (like $6 million). So it was worth asking for $5 million. If he doesn’t recover from injury, this will be his very last big payday, after anticipating that he’s have many, many years of ever larger salaries. His last chance. So it was worth it asking for $5 million. Worst case scenario was that the Dodgers don’t bite and he gets the same $4 million or so they were offering. And that’s what happened. It still makes sense that he did what he did. It wasn’t a miscalculation – just a chance at a bigger payday that didn’t materialize because Ned realized it wasn’t worth it. He still gets more or less the same amount from another team.

by berkowit28 on Dec 15, 2010 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

still dead to me

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Does that mean you’re going to hate Bills, Kemp, Ethier, Broxton, and Kuo after 2012?

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

No

Unless we offer them more money and they leave anyways.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing stopped the Dodgers from offering Martin arb.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Except

For his crappy production and broken hip.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers thought Rod Barajas is worth $3 million. I don’t think this team quibbles on salary that much if you’re pulling that move.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think his market showed they read that situation very well.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly

we offered him more, or at least similar money then what he signed for, unless their are some awesome incentives in his deal with the Yankees. I think Tripon is still pissed about Gurrier and is trying to get a rise out of me, so, moving on.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I’m saying the Dodgers had the last move if they wanted to keep him. They didn’t, and the Dodgers quickly signed his replacement.

I don’t see how Martin is the villain in all this.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

They offered him the same money the yankees did

he chose to be somewhere else. I never said he is a villian, I just don’t give a crap what he does from here on out.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He might take up residence in Long Island or Jersey and get plenty of Ed Hardy.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather have Martin at $6 million than Barajas and Gurrier

by Mike Dennis on Dec 15, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Other then the knowledge

that if they gave him $6 Million they would not be able to afford Matt Guerrier

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Dayn Perry

says the 2011 Phillies are the 4th greatest rotation of all-time. The 1997 Braves top the list.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Dayn Perry still thinks Edwin Jackson is left-handed.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, he cayn’t spell.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't even spell his name properly!

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

So who's left?

Beltre—Texas or Angels
Pavano—Twins or Texas
Soriano—?
D. Lee-?
Middle Infielders/Relievers—Who cares

Who am I leaving out?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

Joey said Derrek Lee might be out of baseball, so….

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

no not out

just a backup role, you know, because he obviously isn’t good enough to start anymore.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

A's are still kinda sorta bidding

on beltre aren’t they?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

FTFY

Beltre—Texas or Angels
Pavano—Twins or Texas
Soriano—?
D. Lee-?
Middle Infielders/Relievers— Dodgers

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

Ha

If we sign Bill Hall, he will have an even higher “l” to other letter ratio than Ted Lilly. 1:2 trumps 3:8.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

That blood blister

looks like it has a Y in it, and the blood blister itself is kind of shaped like a heart or tooth.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Ewww

He can bend his thumb backwards!

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

If we sign Hall, Hu might be waived.

It was a good run.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

It was?

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by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

How’s Gordon been looking in PR anyways?
Is his D up to snuff or getting there?

by megaballs on Dec 15, 2010 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

Can we trade Broxton

for a fuckin bat already?

No use in stocking up on run of the mill arms if we aren’t going to use our surplus for a goody.

by npurcell on Dec 15, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

I like the use of the term goody.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you settle for a cougar instead of a bat?

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Broxton and Loney for Fielder? ;)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

YCTPYDWFPYD

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that an acronym or did Humma just have an aneurysm?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You cant trade players you don’t want for players you do want

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

ahhhh

thanks :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

And with such a catchy acronym, you’ll never forget what it means ever again!

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep!

I knew Maddz was kidding but couldn’t resist.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry you must say it in the form of a question.

by Alex41592 on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

one can only wish!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

My excitement in finishing this semester cant even be dampened by this move by Ned. But seriously, we’re giving out 3 year deals to relievers that throw 90 and K fewer than 6 per 9 and have most of their success attributed to batted ball luck? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, as my man Clay Davis would say.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 15, 2010 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

I know, right?

I’m in a great mood…and I am eating peanut butter filled pretzels!!!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you tried the Pretzel M&M's?

They should make them in peanut butter too!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I hated them at first, liked them a bit later…but I still think "why am I eating these when I should be eating peanut butter M&M’s?

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Peanut M&Ms > Reeses Pieces > peanut butter M&Ms

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the correct order, as determined by scientists.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

no no no, flip that, reverse that

Peanut M&Ms<Reeses Pieces<peanut butter M&Ms

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Its sad how wrong you are

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

This

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I like Junior Mints more than all of them.

by silverwidow on Dec 15, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

No peanuts?

they can gtfo

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Why don’t you just bring up Filet Mignon while you’re at it. Different animal!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

what

where did Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups go?!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Those rule all. Especially the minis.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

RIGHT?

My favorite.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes and no. Reeses PB cups are good, but a little rich. You can down a bag of PB M&M’s without hating yourself in the short term

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly, the PB cups start to choke you up, and peanut m&ms, I mean if I wanted to eat peanuts I’d go to a baseball game

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CHOCOLATE AND A CANDY SHELL

YOU ARE ALL FOOLS.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Dark chocolate

Reeses cups……………MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

by Grimjack on Dec 15, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

oh no, are you, no, national brands shouldn’t come out with dark chocolate things, that’s Sharfenberger territory

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Dark is the new Ice.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I want a TBLA Ice night

where we Ice each other.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

when a game is popular enough to get banned on college campuses, you know it’s good

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

They don't have a crunchy shell

so they are a bit different.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

imho

Peanut Butter Cups = Peanut M&Ms > Reeses Pieces > peanut butter M&Ms.

Depends on my mood.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

What about circus peanuts? Dye + marshmallow = not good right?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no opinion

mostly because I’m not even certain what those are.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are the orange rubbery candy that are disgusting yet occasionally alluring.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

oy with the poodles already, why not discuss the merits of packing peanuts

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Milk Duds, Junior Mints, and Dots all belong in the movie snack hall of fame.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Snow Caps are my movie snack of choice.

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Might as well be snowballs (the Clerks kind)! :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

37?!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sour Patch Kids are my fav for a movie

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes! High five!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m all about the malted milk balls, cause I get to say that chain of words to the wage slave behind the counter and watch them try and work out which candy contains malted milk balls

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

It is crazy how marked up the candy is. My buddy has managed multiple movie theatres and he had to stay till 3am one night because they misplaced a freight of candy that represented about 50K in profits.

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

wage slave

That would be someone with a job?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Anything with peanuts is invariably worse than the original without.

by OB12 on Dec 15, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

gfy

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

not serious

btdubs… or am I? DUN DUN DUN!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

The official M&M Top 12 - By me

12 Peanut
11 coconut
10 mint
9 dark
8 crispy
7 Cherry
6Pretzel
5Raspberry
4Dulce leche
3 Original
2 Strawberried Peanut Butter
1 Peanut Butter

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Those used to be one of my snacks of choice. Haven’t had one in a while, though.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers apparently have two kitties (pots of money) one for money to be spent on bad contracts and one for money to be spent on bad contracts. Not sure which kitty the money for this acquisition comes out of.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

So Padilla, Garland and Kuroda are all bad contracts?

Or were you not just being funny and meant to type “good” one of those times?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

yes to the funny part

or the “trying to be” part. :)
Was just trying to keep with the theme of the day.

by Xeifrank on Dec 15, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That may seem like a small or ignorable point, but I totally agree. Just because you have money to spend doesn’t mean you have to spend it on new guys. So now the core of our team is Kershaw, Lilly, Uribe, & Guerrier?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Amazingly, those are the four players signed (well, not Kershaw, technically, yet) for 2013.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

What's that?

It sounds like someone is trying to drown their sorrows in enough gin to fill a fake arm…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

as did I, but his future is far more murky than Clay K

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I really really hope so

Of course since we have no one signed for 2013 he is gonna go out and sign a bunch of players to block them.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost have to think the Dodgers will find room for Gordon, et al. Just because Ned needs money to spend on mid-tier FAs for the years to come.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Best case scenario this spring assuming we do nothing else

1. Broxton comes back and imitates his 2010 1st half in April/May
2. Kuo leaves spring training with his arm intact and able to pitch
3. Jansen dominates spring training goes to AAA, does not quit, continues to dominate
4. Elbert continues to impress, gets to AAA, does not quit, continues to dominate
5. Belisario gets to spring on time, looks like 2009 Belisario
6. Lindblom bounces back from a winter of rest, rediscovers the stuff that impressed everyone in 2009 and finds life in the Isotope bullpen.
7. Troncoso rediscovers his sinker in AAA (The Isotope bullpen is kick ass)
8. Padilla takes to relief pitching like a baby to a nipple
9. Sands assaults AA pitching
10. Chris Withrow discovers how to pitch again

Based on all of those things happening the Dodgers do the following?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

ha

Hopefully the Isotope bullpen is ridiculous and then if there are any injuries, they can easily step up to MLB play.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

so is Sands a lock to start in AA? Trayvon too?

I guess our lack of position prospects makes me want to rush what precious few we have throught the system regardless of whether its a good idea or not.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 15, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Jim Rome at lunch

loosely quoted:

The roof at the Metrodome might not be finished in time for Monday night’s game. How could it not be finished? Just because it blew up like a trash bag after Thanksgiving; spewing turkey guts and gravy all over the driveway as you’re walking out to the trashcan in the morning. Just do what the rest of us do: put another rash bag over the old one and move on.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

When he read that from his script, did it sound natural?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

No

But then he did a 10 minute interview and took 50 minutes of calls about how great the interview was.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

y’know what’s awesome? being insensitive to people in a blizzard. that’s class right there

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I was going to be really surprised if it was fixed on time

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

insensitive to an old dump stadium is OK.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

on PTI they were saying this should be a last straw moment, as the stadium is no longer performing its intended function, but that’s like chastising the Superdome for losing to hurricane Katrina

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well its happened

6 times now

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Who would have thought that a stadium named after Hubert H. Humphrey would start out really great but then find itself ineffective and useless?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I highly enjoyed this

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't

okay, on one level I did, but it hurt. hurt deeply.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

awww

do you need a hug? C’mere.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

TBLA: You’ll come for the Dodger chat, you’ll stay for the marginally funny jokes referencing dudes who were vice president 40 years ago or more.

Just you wait, I’ve got a killer John Nance Garner joke I’ve been holding in my hip pocket.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 15, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Cracks me up

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It's intended function

does that include remaining intact?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

allowing the Vikings to host games during Minnesota snow, but this is a Blizzard we ain’t seen in some twenty years

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Funny how they say that every winter

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

its happened 6 times in the history of the stadium hasn't it?

thats just not acceptable.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

oh no they need to move or a new stadium or whatever, I just think it’s funny that folk claim this as the final straw, having seen the pictures of the blizzard on the news the dome was up against some good competition

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was a TKO

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 15, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah but it's a stadium

if he was being insensitive to people in the area and their plight, that would suck.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I got lost in the peanut candy food thread

I love peanuts/nuts in just about everything but for reason have never enjoyed Reese’s Peanut Butter candies.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

I really think the Peanut Butter has become sugary and more processed over time. It is a little rich/chalky for me now. I like them still, but it would not be my first choice.

BTW Jumbo Red Vines are awesome

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Fresh Red Vines are the best. Red Vines >>>>>>>>> Twizzlers, which suck.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really care for either of them

but sorry, I’ll be the dissenting voice here – if I had to choose, Twizzlers taste better to me. Red Vines are delicious if you like eating plastic.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy fella, I don't really like either of them any more

but as a kid I admit to liking to get Red Vines and then use them as a straw to slurp soda. Which upset my mom. Now they’re just too much red dye and corn syrup. I like stuff that is at least faux fruity.

Like David Hyde Pierce.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well Fraiser, you’re so corpulent that when you sit around the magnificently appointed Tuscan villa, you sit AROUND the magnificently appointed Tuscan villa!
Huh…this IS the smartest show on TV!
* switches to Ricki Lake *
Yo, Ricky! That’s mah girlfreen! She ain’t supposed to be havin’ no penis!

God, I love those old episodes of Family Guy. :-)

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

David Hyde Pierce is anything but faux fruity.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That's right, I forgot he really is gay

Hmm.. bad example…

Hmm.. bad example…Charles Nelson Reilly? Ah! Paul Shaffer. There.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul Shaffer (co?)wrote “It’s Raining Men”. Just sayin’.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

But he's married to a lady!

{cough}

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

My comment was made before I saw this. No way, you are just flat out wrong :)

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You are lucky Sweet Polly Purebred likes you

I have a soft spot for Sweet Polly Purebred.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think she likes Twizzlers more too. So there!

And jelly beans. We found these natural jelly beans at the store the other day that were really good.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Twizzlers are like eating plastic

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

They're both like eating plastic

they are basically in no way food, by most definitions of that word. :-)

Give me M&Ms and popcorn at the movie theater.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 15, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I never mix candy with my popcorn

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Fiddle Faddle? Or Cracker Jack? Do those count?

Mixing some sort of chocolate snack with popcorn gets you the ideal salty & sweet combo.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at a movie

Once in a while I’d get bon bons but I could count on my hand the number of times I’ve gotten candy at the movies. It is always about the popcorn.

I’m fairly certain that at some point in my life we will own a real (not those fake plastic things) old time Popcorn maker.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are so awesome

My cousin has one, and the popcorn is fantastic. I will be there next Friday!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell his wife Hello

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2011 Dodger season may disappoint on paper

But the 2011 Dodger minor league season shouldn’t, I have to be honest here, I’m more excited for that than our team.. RIGHT NOW…

by Julio Nievas on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

does he have no chin

or a huge neck? Something is off…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Eric bring up snowballs earlier?

/maddz daddz

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Rick Monday is

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Dustin Pedroida is looking over his shoulder.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Jeff Pentland?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes pro sports can be absurd

I just typed this sentence:

The Galaxy began the day by trading with Houston for the fifth and fourteenth picks in the re-entry draft, giving up a fourth round pick in 2014’s amateur Superdraft .

and I am now baffled that a GM could decide to trade for 2014 4th round pick in an amateur draft

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

I am still trying to figure out what the re-entry draft is.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a way to deny Free Agency.
Any player selected in Stage 1 will remain on the drafting Club’s 2011 budget at the option price or Bona Fide Offer price until April 1st, 2011. Clubs and players may not mutually renegotiate that price to a lower number until April 1st, 2011.

Clubs may not select their own players in Stage 1. Players will have the opportunity to negotiate contracts and sign with their previous clubs after Stage 1 is complete, through 2 p.m. ET on December 13th.

In Stage 2, clubs may select from players that are under contract and those not under contract. If a player is not under contract, the drafting club will be required to make a genuine offer to the player within seven days. In the event that an agreement cannot be reached between the drafting club and an out-of-contract player, the drafting club will hold the right of first refusal for that player in MLS. Clubs may select their own players in Stage 2 only after all other clubs have declined to select those players.

If a player is not selected in either stage of the Re-Entry Process, that player will be available on a first come first serve basis to all clubs.

http://www.insidesocal.com/soccer/2010/12/mls-announces-re-entry-draft-l.html

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

there used to be no free agency, if your club didn’t renew your contract they still had the rights to you. This is MLS’s way of putting those players back in the pool

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ssounds

unamerican

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

the other thing is that the re-entry draft is only bidding on the rights to negotiate, like a transfer period without transfer fees

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Old school baseball owners fondly remember the good old days.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I really can't wait for my sociology course

So many 19 year olds to destroy. So little time.

Also, if I can get in good with this prof it’s possible I’ll be in Nashville for a long time. I don’t know how I feel about that but I like free grad school.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Forget how to use SB Nation?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand

you are on my jock today, sir.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

point of clarification

sociology course is about baseball.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It was Phil’s way of saying you replied to the wrong comment

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I meant it in response to you

Sorry, internal mental connection: I have a feeling we will look at the way the game changed over the years economically and systematically. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Phil’s just a wrong douche then :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s gunning for me today. I feel special!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't

I expect my snark reply ratio is equal to everyone today.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

We are at threat level Orange right now.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll stand down

don’t want to be upsetting the minions. I’ve always been told I go one step to far.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

because we all know that Sociology classes are about baseball

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If there is such a class, Maddz would find it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

And I totally did

SOC 265W. Sociology through Baseball. Baseball as a social institution.
Group dynamics, baseball as work and business. Free agency and
law, race and ethnic relations, and globalization.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL
So many 19 year olds to destroy

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

oh not this again

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, but this comment is not about you

it’s definitely about me. :)

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

oh thats what I mean

you have made your position on ~20 year olds clear.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

So, about that "healthy" Activia yogurt...

from Darren Rovell:

Proving that nothing they say is good for you is good for you: Dannon will pay $21M for false claims about its Activia yogurt.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

It doesn’t make you crap like a sick duck?

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

3 years?

what happens if he goes George Sherrill on us again?

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

twitter

by shaqfor3 on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

we keep him on the roster for the whole year.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Then

I guess we’ll have to be happy with the two good months he gives us before sucking against the Phillies in the NLCS.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pissed off at MLB

I went to the trouble of writing a post with direct citations from the collective bargaining agreement, links to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, showing my work that the MLB minimum should be $414,500, and their effing press release says the new minimum is $414,000.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

so you’re mad that they undercut your work? did you not expect them to release that datum?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect that their release have correct information. :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Bastards.

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Robert Nutting will be thrilled with the $12,500 in savings.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This Friday on MLB Network

They will announce their winners of things called the Greatness in Baseball Yearly (GIBBY) Awards

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

One would assume

They’re getting Kirk Gibson to present the winner of “Best Postseason Walkoff Hit?” :-)

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather see Bob Gibson.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Was there a postseason walk off hit this year? What did I eat for breakfast?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I had pan dulce and hot chocolate…it was delicious.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy, easy rec

LMAO

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Juan Uribe had a walk-off sac fly in Game 4 of the NLCS

His award was $21 million

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

damn it Juan Uribe. Can we give the best postseason award to Cliff Lee, and pretend like the WS didn’t happen?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Categories

Best Player
Best Rookie
Best Starting Pitcher
Best Closer
Best Defensive Player
Best Manager
Top Play
Top Moment
Top Performance
Top Oddity
Top X-Factor
Top Game
Top Fan Moment
Top Postseason Moment

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

best player? can they vague it up a little bit?

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Andre
Jansen
Clayton
Kuo
Loney
Mattingly
?
?
Mattingly taking out a pitcher
Xavier Paul
Opening Day
?
?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

he is Dexter. She is smoking hot.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

hotlink:http://www.celebitchy.com/131322/did_julia_stiles_homewreck_michael_c_halls_marriage/dexter2/

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh. Anyway, so he is

Photobucket

I hate Deb with a passion but I think she’s pretty.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Deb is his ex wife…Julia Stiles is in that picture

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Never like her flat face

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I love that she’s brilliant, has a degree from Columbia

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious

is everyone brilliant who has a degree from Columbia?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If you went to an Ivy League, Berkeley, Stanford, Duke, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern I assume you’re brilliant until proven otherwise.

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to the University of Rochester. FML

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

all I meant by it is what society means by it, you drop one of those schools on your resume and folk assume something about your intellegence

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree

cool thing is, when you’re a 6’1 athletic white guy and you put CSU Dominguez Hills on your resume, the diviersity office you’re interviewing for assuming you went there to experience culture.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the truth Josie?

Are you going to reveal that you gamed the system for years and its finally caught up with you?

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

but we are talking about one person’s opinion and since you went to one of these “brilliant schools” I simply assumed you met many a student who was not brilliant, so I found it odd you assign that to anyone who went to such a school.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Vanderbilt or Northwestern more so than another 30 or so I could name?

by berkowit28 on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Supposedly Vanderbilt and Emory

are doing big things in the South.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s weird is that on the international rankings is that Vanderbilt and Northwestern are in the 30-40 range.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is that weird?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

How international and national reps differ so much.

The UC system as a whole for instance seems to be the best public school system ever if you believe the various international rankings out there.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

same with the Domestic ratings, almost every branch is in the top 100

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but nationally, outside of Berkley, the rest of the UCs aren’t as highly ranked with the Vanderbilts, and NW’s of the country, I think.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA is just behind Berkeley and ahead of USC. Santa Barbara, Davis, and one other that I can’t remember is in the top 35. San Diego and Santa Cruz are top 50, Riverside brings up the rear.

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I will shake my fist at you.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s that third one in the top 35. I’m sorry! As an Angelino I forget the OC exists (man my world view sure is limited)

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually it’s San Diego that ranks high, Irvine somewhat lower.

by berkowit28 on Dec 15, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Go to hell.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

that’s a private institution

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

emphasis on institution.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They bought their way into there. They spent a lot of money to boost everything possible from academics to private funding of stadiums.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

same argument can be applied to the Ivies.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying its a bad thing, but that’s how they did it.

USC grads in the 70’s and 80’s are reaping the benefits of USC’s better standings in the academics world.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

When we hired people have enough experience to have received their degree(s) in the 70s/80s, we don’t give a crap where they got it from; their professional experience is what matters.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

How about now

Cal Poly grads with no experience over Cal State grads with two years experience?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a difference?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was applying to school, which wasn’t that long ago, it seemed like anyone who was willing to pay the $$ could get into SC. I knew some complete idiots that got in there.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

They tightened up their admissions requirements something fierce.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

and then that Admissions guy came to the UofR! And admitted me! SHOWS HIM!

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Merced has to be at the bottom, doesn’t it? Or is it still too new to rank?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

My uncle once joked with a blackjack dealer from Merced

The table was full of my family members, and my uncle is hilarious. He was talking with the dealer, and noticed from her nametag that she was from Merced, so he asked…

“What did Merced do when the fertilizer plant exploded?”
“They called the national guard to help stop the looting.”

We thought it was funny (it may have been the beer), but the dealer did not. Then, coincidentally, we all proceeded to lose several hands in a row.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Too new to rank.

Last I checked, UC Santa Clarita was around 75th, and UC Riverside was 93rd.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

the UCs are one of the best public school systems out there

along with UNC and UW. Sadly I think the economic issues that California is faced with are negatively effecting the UCs, though…

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

fortunately everyone is effected. My friend Kaci was telling me about how far Nevada has fallen. They used to offer free instate tuition to anyone above a 3.5, but they ran out of money for that fund

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

and Berkeley is #1! And meercat, I met people at Berkeley who didn’t always come across as prepared, but I was always impressed with the general intelligence. No one gets into a school that competitive without something to them that makes them stand out

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t the undergrad population at Berkeley about 3 to 4 times greater than those other schools? I tend to make similar assumptions, but I expect the chances of finding a lemon at Berkeley are greater than those other schools. I’d also add MIT and Caltech to that list, even if the brilliance is a little more specialized.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

of course David, MIT and Caltech should be on there, but as a humanities person I forget them exist. Apologies : )

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

where you can spend six years reading books and essays, and still make embarrassing typos

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t notice it at first, but I shall assume it was intentional, and an homage to Ruby Sue, underrated character of Christmas Vacation.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

she looks sloppy lately

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t she in that movie Quarantine? IIRC, it was like 28 Days Later-lite…not a bad film. And yeah, she’s attractive, but I wouldn’t say smoking hot…but my tastes are unique, I’ve heard.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

wouldn’t say smoking hot, out of a bazillion images this was her best.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Julia Stiles > Erin Hawk > Jennifer Carpenter

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s jacked.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

all I ever notice on dexter is how painfully skinny she is

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Comment of the day that in no way should ever be deleted.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I picked the photo

because I liked the dress.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

say yes to the dress.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

this

and she’s also jacked, as reg says

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s going to kill her in the divorce trial.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

some hollywood lawyer must be having a Chanukah special on divorces

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I first read this as

Michael Anthony Hall and Jennifer Connely get divorced

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 15, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be a shame.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

His “urban” rant about the 8th grade girl in Weird Science is an all-time John Hughes moment.

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

My Co-worker got me Waking the Dead in our christmas exchange a couple years ago. I loved her in that movie.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Jennifer Connelly

once lived in the house across the street from me. When she was a child.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

From Arash Markazi of ESPN on Twitter
If Joe Smith wants to make history he should wear No. 29. It’s the one number 00-35 never to be worn in Lakers history, dating back to 1948

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

because if you’re gonna make history, make sure it’s trivial

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing wrong with a pursuit of trivial history.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

one of our TBLA events needs to be drunken Trivial Pursuit, cause there’s nothing better than the drunk and nerdy

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I have come to believe that the only reason Arash Markazi has a job is because he was able to score free tickets to Staples on a regular basis.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s that guy who is somehow at every single party, only nobody knows how he got there.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If ESPN needed a gossip guy, they should have just hired Perez Hilton.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

One has to wonder why

no has ever worn 29.

has any Dodger number never been worn that stops at 50?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Most of the 6-9 numbers are hardly worn just due to refs having to ID foul calls, unless they are Antonio Alfonseca.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Polydactylism ftw!

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t have the media guide handy, but I think all the 0-50 numbers, at least, have been used at some point.

Al “Mr. Zero” Oliver stands alone.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd bet they have

even up to 60 as well. Bet we could easily name a player for each number 51 – 60. Well, 59 is hard off the top of my head.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

51 – Fat Tub of Goo

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That was supposed to be plural. “Tubs.”

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

52 – The late Tim Crews

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

53 – retired. Duh.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

54 – Belisario
57 – Scott Radinsky?
58 – Bills

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn

Radinsky was 36 with LA

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

57 – Steve “Sniff” Howe

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

55 – Orel

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t offering.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say Wayne Kirby

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

61 – The Asian Beard.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

55 now lies vacant

those left behind remember what was….and what could have been.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t directly remember a 62, or some of the few after it.

Unless we count batboys from 1962!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Barely related question because I thought Wilkin Ruan was number 62.

That dude was supposed to be the fastest man in baseball, why does he only have one steal.

….He was on base more than once.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 15, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It's your dyslexia

He wore 26.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

According to B-R

Rule 5er Jose Nunez wore it in 2001. That’s the most recent they list.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Onan Masaoka wore 70

because he couldn’t get 69?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

This is easier

what about bowling on Friday night?

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

This Friday, 12/17

Going to see Tron then TBLA midnight bowling. Are all welcome to come to the movie as well. I have no idea what times the movie is playing.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds likely. Go see it in the 3D Imax theatre there mayhaps.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Would seem like we should go at 7, get food, then go bowling.

Also, Gable House has karaoke in the bar.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I vote Buffalo wild wings for food, but I can be persuaded otherwise, just seems the best for a group atmosphere (assuming this becomes a group thing)

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The wings at BWW aren’t good though.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I vote for Lucille’s. Its in the same block as the movie theater.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I second this. If people decide against it, there’s always BJs and Jerry’s. The brewery next to Jerry’s is good too.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll go if there will be BJs

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wouldn’t?

Just kidding. I love everyone exactly the same amount.

by MR.F. on Dec 15, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Having an office party right now?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m free Fri night and Sat night, so I’ll just support you no matter what you decide to do with your life

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I can go at midnight any night

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this might have gotten lost somewhere - on Martin's contract

1. This was not offering Martin arbitration that he could refuse, they would have been tendering a contract for a non-specified amount.
2. Out of the 150+ players that were tendered a contract or a FA offered arbitration, none of the players who did not settle before exchanging figures took less money than the year before. Even in cases where the player missed the whole year with injury, he received the same amount as had the previous amount.
3. Sure, the Dodgers could have put in a figure of let’s say 5M but that would be guaranteed, no incentives. If they were to put in $4.2M, unless Martin went crazy, and I mean really crazy, he would win his case.
4. So, that was the risk of tendering the contract, the Dodgers did not want to guarantee what Martin made last year (which also why the Yankees probably decided not to do the trade because they would have had to either risk tendering a contract with him or decide to let him be a free agent).

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Bad idea jeans

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Report-Yankees-might-turn-to-Cubs-Zambrano-for;_ylt=Ag7p.l5yTfK7SHmhQq9vPnURvLYF?urn=mlb-296477

Although it might be one of the more spectacular train wrecks we’ve seen in the league in recent memory…from Plan A to Plan Z, indeed. Are the Yankees that desperate for attention? They miss out on Lee, so they turn to the Ghost of Cubbie Past and sign Prior, and are looking at bringing in Zambrano and Wood? Crazy…

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Big Z may be batshit crazy

but if the Cubs paid a chunk of his salary, Zambrano could be a good pickup.

After he rejoined the rotation, in August, he had a 1.41 ERA in 11 starts, allowing two runs or less 10 times, and three runs in the other game. His FIP was likely higher, as he had a 40/60 BB/K ratio, but he was still effective.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball Forecaster

had a very nasty projection for him. They think he is done, I don’t have it handy so I can’t reference the peripherals they used.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yankees

could also be the only team that can eat that contract.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll say this

When he’s on, he’s fun to watch: filthy stuff and passion is always nice to see. I just don’t know how comfortable I’d be depending on him to adjust to the NYY pressure (i.e. Vasquez, Javier), and the expectations would be pretty high after the Lee debacle.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Zambrano

would be a great addition to the dodger bullpen today.

by delias man on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they can restructure him into a Guerrerian 3/$12m deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

THe Yankees already traded for Wood at the 2010 trading deadline.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Last I looked he is a free agent

since they non tendered him.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a free agent, but the Yankees just declined his option. Wood has over 10 years of service time under his belt.

My point is that bringing him back is not ‘crazy’. He worked out as a reliever for the Yanks.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

I was refering to their interest to resign him this offseason: I think he’s looking for a 2/$16 contract to help set up Mo.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

“I usually use protection, but I figured, hey, when’s the next time I’m going to be in Haiti?”

by kinbote on Dec 15, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They are about to open a Counter in NYC

There are so many better burger options within a short radius, but somehow it being new is getting it HYPE.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome

Now all we need is an In ‘N Out, a Tommy’s, some decent Mexican food, and I’m set.

by Real DL on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

still don’t see the big deal about Tommy’s

by Josie Becker on Dec 15, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Chili cheese fries…mmmmmm.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 15, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

A chilly cheese burger is a good thing.

by Tripon on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Always eat in at Tommy’s. If you take that chili burger into your ride, it will smell like that (or like the stale version) for days/weeks.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

5 guys is practically the same as In N Out to me. Decent mexican food just won’t happen unfortunately.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Five Guys is good, but not worth the hype. There are much better burgers to be had in NYC.

by Real DL on Dec 15, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more.

by BFDC on Dec 15, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

My daughter is working at the Marina Del Rey Counter. It is a good burger, but not a great one. I did have a mean banana shake there though.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm laughing

I shouldn’t be laughing

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as he adopts a pit bull

I’m ok with it. I saw so many pit bulls at the pound :(.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

Apparently I have to go home now as there is going to be a wicked ice storm.

Winter is coming.

by Maddz on Dec 15, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Watch

out for falling tree branches the day after.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith Law, not a fan of the Guerrier signing

on ESPN (Insider):

The Dodgers are happy to let the gangrenous wound in left field fester, but thank goodness the seventh inning is locked down.

and

Free agency isn’t a good way to build a bullpen period, but doing it that way when the Dodgers’ amateur scouting team continues to stuff the organization with power arms is just nonsensical.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

well

he is right

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 15, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He said it better then we did

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 15, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He also says

Make Withrow a bullpen guy and can you give credit to the Dodgers scouting team for converting Jansen to a reliever. Belisario was found by their local Venezuelan scout. Currently on two of the proposed bullpen guys were originally signed as Dodgers (Kuo and Broxton).

I get and agree with his original premise but he shouldn’t make it seem like there are bullpen guys just sitting around to be used, Ned’s best course has been the NRI (Saito, Beimel, Seanez, Park, Belisario) that made it out of spring.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would argue the Dodgers have 5-6 guys at least in the system who could perform at a level similar to Guerrier. They might not even be as good, but the difference wouldn’t be large enough to justify giving Guerrier $4 million per year.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Do those include these names

Javy Guerra, Jon Link, Travis Schlicting, Josh Lindblom, Scott Elbert, Brent Leach, Ramon Troncoso

Are ready to hand the ball to these guys 70-75 times next year.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You don’t have to give them the ball that many times.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

His tweet teases about Guerrier and Martin

Did he say anything interesting about our erstwhile catcher?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

He said he thought Martin given his decline, workload, and body type, is too big a risk and was more of a minor-league deal, NRI guy than a $4m guarantee guy.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 15, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

… but the Yankees can afford to eat it if it is a mistake …

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 15, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He thought

it’s a mistake if he blocks Montero’s development

by bhsportsguy on Dec 15, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

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