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Dodgers Finalize Contract With Matt Guerrier

The Dodgers finalized their three-year deal with relief pitcher Matt Guerrier today, locking up the 32-year old reliever through 2013. "Matt gives us depth in the bullpen as he’s proven to be a strong performer on a team that contends year in and year out," said general manager Ned Colletti. "He’s willing to take the ball in any situation and his track record speaks for itself. We’re excited to have him in the late innings for the next few seasons."

The right-hander signed for $12 million total, broken down as follows, per Tony Jackson of ESPN:

  • 2011: $1.5 million
  • 2012: $4.75 million
  • 2013: $4.75 million
  • 2014: $1 million (part of deferred signing bonus)

The Dodgers press release also noted that the last name of the new reliever is pronounced Gurr-ear, for those who were wondering (I thought his last name rhymed with derriere, for instance). Here's hoping Guerrier can help the back end of the Dodger bullpen, and that committing $12 million to a middle reliever won't bite them in the backside.

The signing of Guerrier gives the Dodgers 41 players on their 40-man roster, so a corresponding move will need to be made. That move (think, something like John Lindsey getting designated for assignment) has not yet been announced.

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Just in case the Dodgers need yet another pitcher, they are a finalist, along with the Giants and Rays, to sign reliever Guillermo Mota to a minor-league contract, per Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes.

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The Dodgers search for a left-fielder is down to Scott Podsednik and Bill Hall, writes Jackson, with a "strong preference" for the right-handed Hall.

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No it isn’t.

It rhymes with career.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 16, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I get for not RTFA. Sorry.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 16, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I shall call him Matt Derriere from here on out!

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Your anecdote jumps to the front of my mind, so I’ll probably eschew a salad tonight.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd have

probably shot the co-worker if they had been eating a steak instead of salad.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 16, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If it were my steak……

There might’ve been bloodshed

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Not rare for me to get pissed, no.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds good to me. I will check the Break room up here for you.

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I also have Chris Rock’s voice in my head.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I forgot about that bit. That shit is funny

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I will never be able to say that correctly

I will always use Josie’s interpretation.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 16, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Never enough Wang in the Nations capitol.

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

When did that happen ?

Bill Clinton became president again?

by preacher roe on Dec 16, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Did he stiff another team?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 16, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

OH No!

Here they come!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome.

now that song will be stuck in my head the rest of the night.

by Ian Capilouto on Dec 16, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a Small World

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 16, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Some notes from Tony Jackson

on ESPN:

The team’s search for a left fielder, according to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, has been narrowed to two players: Bill Hall and Scott Podsednik, with a strong preference for Hall because he is a right-handed hitter.

From Bill Hall’s agent:

“We’re not miles apart,” Bross said. “We are having fruitful discussions, and hopefully, we can bridge the gap.”

The Dodgers didn’t immediately announce a corresponding 40-man roster move to clear a spot for Guerrier. Colletti said via text message that the move was “pending.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

blech

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Scotty Pods for the win.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Humma Kavula for the block.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

This game show talk begs for a Raburn comment.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t we work in a Peter Marshall / Pete LaCock reference at least?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

And they were so close to getting me to change my tune.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

What is up with the infatuation with Pods?

Is Colletti that in love with speed? What else does he bring to the table? The only logical reason to sign him to to bat him 2nd behind Furcal so there could be some people on base for our hard-swinging, low-OBP-having 3-8 hitters…oh crap, I just semi-justified it for him! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! :-/

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 16, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s ridiculous. If we sign him, Scotty Pods is clearly the leadoff hitter.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned is trying to sell him

on California Oranges and Avocados, and possibly a clothing outlet.

"We’re not miles apart," Bross said. "We are having fruitful discussions, and hopefully, we can bridge the gap."

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 16, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but what about the traffic on the 110 and 5?

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Gibbons
Gwynn

Paul
Mitchell
Hoffman

Hoffman has to be hoping for Podboy, Paul for Hall.

I’m reduced to hoping for Bill Hall.

Happy Holidays

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 16, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

I was kinda hoping for Monty Hall.

by KellyStephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer Monty Python myself.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 16, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

snap snap

grin grin, wink wink, say no more

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

What, this?

It’s only a flesh wound.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 16, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Come back here, you coward!

by KellyStephen on Dec 16, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we SERIOUSLY going to adopt the Giants-Model..

1. Load up on pitching
2. Completely forget about any decent offensive options and let a couple key players do everything

Seriously, this signing wasn’t really necessary… stop overkilling the pitching and get some bats…

by UC.Clipper on Dec 16, 2010 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ring. Box. Broken hearted Dodger fans.

Plan seems to work. ;-)

by prosellis on Dec 16, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Just a few notes

Josh Lindblom pitched in 3 games (9 IP) in Spring Training last season. 7 other NRI pitchers pitched in more games than Lindblom though Lindblom did lead all NRI in the Dodger system. As a comparison, 40-man roster pitcher, Jon Ely only had one appearance in a MLB ST game.

The highest number of PA by a non-roster position player was 36 (Nick Green) The highest number by a minor leaguer not on the 40 man roster was 12 by Russ Mitchell.

The Dodgers have 7 outfielders on their 40 man roster, I would be surprised unless someone gets hurt if Jerry Sands gets more than 10 plate appearances in a MLB ST games.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

Let's add one more thing

Trayvon Robinson was on the 40-man roster last year and was in MLB ST camp, he was optioned on March 18th, just in time for minor league spring training games to start.

Robinson played in one MLB ST game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ely wasn’t on the roster last spring.

by silverwidow on Dec 16, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess with the signing of Pods or Hall we are done. I guess this means that we could see Robinson or Sands take over in LF in the middle of the season. Both are decent options as Pods is a leadoff hitter and has speed while Hall has power and is versatile. I like Hall more because he is right handed and has some power. If we sign Hall who is our #2 hitter? I like what we have done with our pitching but we need some players to bounce back next year to have a good offense. Loney needs to produce more and Kemp and Ethier need to carry the team which I think they can and will. If Furcal stays healthy we can have a really good offense.

by dodgers4life on Dec 16, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Basically

this is what the Dodgers (Ned and Don) have been saying all off-season, this team’s offense is going to have be provided by Kemp, Ethier, Loney, et. al.

Part of this I am sure, is based on the financial reality of the current club but also probably a little bit in the you guys are no longer prospects or even young players, you are in your 4th-5th year and you need to step up.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Dodgers believe that, then the next step is signing them to long term extensions. I know both sides will want to do it, but it still needs to happen if this is really the plan.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see why one necessarily means the other. I believe and expect Ethier to be a big part of the offense, but I have no interest in locking him up to a long term deal.

by Michael White on Dec 16, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I would lock up Kershaw,Kemp,Ethier, and Billingsley to extensions. I would want Ethier to sign a shorter extension since he is older. Something like 3 years/36M.

by dodgers4life on Dec 16, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You are kidding yourself if Ethier is going to accept 3 years/36 million

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

1. too low. That is his last arb year and two FA years. He will be looking at 3/45 dead minimum. If he puts up another 130+ OPS+ season, he is looking at, what, $13-14M in arb for 2012?
2. does he want to put off going into FA until his age-33 season or get their earlier?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

and 3/45 is pretty low considering what Jayson Werth just got.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it!

There you go, being reasonable again!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Werth plays good D and has speed.

If Ethier gets more than 14 in arb I’d be shocked. If he gets more than 15 in FA, let him walk.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

And I don't see Stewart wanting to lock up Kemp

coming off the 2010 season.

The only player that makes sense for them to approach is Kershaw because you can entice him by paying him more this season than he would get otherwise. Plus there are good comps for both sides to use in negotiations.

Kemp, Ethier and Bills are probably not going to take any home-town discount and while Bills has some comps you can use, my hunch is that Stewart wants to take them both to the open market.

Ethier might want to do it but are willing to make hims 18M year player.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Stewart would play ball with CB. A deal could be made there.

Agree on Kemp. I think both sides understandably want to take a “wait and see” approach.

Completely agree on Kershaw.

by Michael White on Dec 16, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the cost of a productive, power hitting outfielder?

And what will it be when the time comes for Kemp and Ethier to go FA? Do you think it will be less than 18M/yr? These are both young guys, with more than a few years ahead of them. I don’t think a 4 year contract is beyond belief.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I would sign Ethier to an extension if:

- The Dodgers see him at an elite hitter.
- In two years, you don’t see a good replacement for him on the free agent market.
- You also don’t see a replacement from the farm system.

Its easy to say, “Yeah, he’s not worth $18 million”, but who do you replace them with?

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

(and I really hate agreeing with you, because it may ruin my image.) :)

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

who do you replace them with?

Why, Robinson and Sands of course!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

what I think is silly

is he’s doing the exact opposite with the pitching staff. Obviously not trusting the guys who there before(talking more about the bullpen) and bringing guys in. The only real “upgrade” to the lineup was Uribe. If there was already a LF, I can say, fine. Let’s give him another chance. We didn’t have a LF, now we basically have two halves of one. It was a place that could be primed for a big offensive addition, and that was not done.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

of course I mean 2 starters.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Mike, good post

I was just saying that I think LF was a place where there really was no real incumbent, so it could be filled with the big bat the team needed. I like what Colletti did with the rotation.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the issue was

he had a limited amount of money and really after Werth and Crawford, do you want to go after the Burrells, Berkmans of the world (and have to explain to Frank after the Jones, Manny and to some extend Pierre deals) why they did this if it doesn’t pan out.

I can see why they are going with a lower salary player and also looking at Paul or Hoffman to make the club if that doesn’t pan out.

Maybe this depth will work out for them and they can use it during the season for something,

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Berkman would have been fine

but I get what you’re saying. I just don’t see how that helps us win. But maybe they’ll surprise like Jamey Gamer did.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Think: 1963 Dodgers

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

those teams were not horrible offensively until 1966. Of course in 1966, the Dodgers gave up just over 3 runs a game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 16, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't being facetious....

That was a pretty good team.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Just curious

Was Jerry Sands in last years winter development program thing? I know he wasn’t really on the radar yet, and I don’t remember him being there. I also don’t know where to look it up.

by CTBMikeD on Dec 16, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Sands wasn't there

Here was the list from 2010:

Pitchers: Chris Withrow, Josh Lindblom, Javy Guerra, Kenley Jansen, Aaron Miller, Ethan Martin, Armando Zerpa, Carlos Monasterios, John Ely and Jon Link

Position players: A. J. Ellis, Russell Mitchell, Dee Gordon, Andrew Lambo, Trayvon Robinson, Kyle Russell, Matt Wallach and Jesse Mier

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't beat Uncle Google

but this is the link to an article TBLA published last January. The list is not identical to Eric’s above, e.g., Travis Schlichting on one list, Lucas May not Jesse Mier.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't even think to look in the TBLA archives

I was looking at old press releases instead. My press release is from January 12, while the TBLA article is from January 11, but I don’t remember it otherwise.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The list in the 1/11 article bh linked differs from the press release and Phil’s article too. Gurnick has Lucas May, but doesn’t have Kyle Russell, which the press release and Phil do have.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

but Sands is on none of the lists.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

which is not surprising of course, given that he spent 2009 in Ogden and Great Lakes.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

he really

just burst on the scene this last year right?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

he hit .260 / .361 / .510 / .870 in 123 PAs in Great Lakes and didn’t make the TBLA top-15 prospects.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

… after 2009.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

and look at him now. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

well there’s just an empty space (in LF)
but Sands winning it this spring
is against all odds and that’s what JoeyJoe has to face …

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Via Tony Jackson (linked above)
The Dodgers didn’t immediately announce a corresponding 40-man roster move to clear a spot for Guerrier. Colletti said via text message that the move was “pending.”

This sounds like a trade to me.

by silverwidow on Dec 16, 2010 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

Paul for a nothing prospect with options

by Michael White on Dec 16, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Hoffmann for a nothing prospect with options.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Hu …

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Ivan DeJesus.

So many choices!

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Our out of option guys are a little more likely though. Lindsey still the front runner, one would think.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Lindsey is option #1

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

From everyone bitching that Torre wouldn’t let him bat to hoping he’s gets designated for assignment.

You guys are cruel.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He got some AB’s!

Now let him go!

I see Roving Instructor in his future….

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Number 1 with a bullet?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

Had to look it up….

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m 18 with a bullet.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

or it’s pending…..

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The decision doesn’t technically have to be made until Spring training, I think.

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

when does it have to be made then?

by Tripon on Dec 16, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Methinks as soon as the Guerrier deal is official

by Michael White on Dec 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re too smart for your own good.

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It has to be made

in order to add Guerrier to the 40-man, which happens when he signs his contract.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

… and the team makes the transaction official with the league/MLB.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

or they haven’t had time yet to tell whomever (Lindsey, Hu) personally that they have been DFA’d

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh
@MikeSciosciasTI Dodgers have a strong preference for Bill Hall. Hall has a strong preference for the Dodgers. Maaaake out already.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Guerrier's contract

is for his age 32-34 season, but his birthday is 8/2/78, so he is one month short of being as old as possible for that (6/30 cutoff is typical), so he actually will turn 35 for the last couple months of that contract. He has pitched, for all intents and purposes*, 70 or more innings of relief in each of the last six years. I think it is reasonable to be concerned that he is equally or more likely to have his arm fall off before this contract is half-completed than he is to continue to be an iron man. Let’s hope this starting rotation really does go deep into games a lot and eases the bullpen burden.

*69 1/3 in 2006, but 8 2/3 in the minors that year (rehab perhaps, in AA)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, the color of the quote boxes is configurable?

Why are ours gray instead of some shade of blue?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

beacause we’re boring?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

and we can’t spell….(Rats)

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 16, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re not real fans

/bearface

by keithc13 on Dec 16, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

doooooooooooooooooooooooo it

do it do it do it

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 16, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see how to

Maybe only Eric has that power.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not

That’s in the upper echelons of the ivory towers of SB Nation headquarters.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If Athletics Nation

can have green tinted quote boxes, we damn well can have blue ones!

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of me

Just wants Scotty Pods back so we have reasons to post pictures of his hot wife.

Excellent....

by Corncake on Dec 16, 2010 7:41 PM PST reply actions  

We can still post those pics while watching Bill Hall occasionally trot around the bases.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

this line from

Passan’s FA tracker on Bill Hall:

Versatile utility guy, little more. Any team that starts him is desperate, crazy or both.

Yes, the Dodgers are that guy who buys the Russian mail order bride looking for true love. On a serious tip, even though Hall is (barely) preferable in my eyes, would Pods be a better fit for the batting order cos they need a #2 hitter in the worst way?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 16, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't Hall at least a bit better defensively than Pods?

I know neither is exciting, but can’t help but feel Hall would still be the bit better option…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 16, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about that..

I’d take Hall, but we would just have a lot of 6-8 hitters when we do need a 2 hitter whereas Pods would be a better fit.. Hmm… Can we just trade for Quentin..? Ohh wait.. No. Because Ned is a retard and would seldom do something good.

Excellent....

by Corncake on Dec 16, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Only problem is that Pods isn’t a 2 hitter, except in name.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 16, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I would bat Loney second. He is obviously not a power hitter, so I would have him focus on hitting line drives and taking pitches. He might only hit 10 HRs but if he could get his average up to .300 and his OBP up to .360, he could be a pretty productive #2 hitter.

by OB12 on Dec 17, 2010 5:21 AM PST up reply actions  

There are only a handful of outfielders (Manny, Gibbons, Dunn, etc.)

in MLB who are worse than Pods…so yes, Hall is better defensively.

by The Dude Abides on Dec 17, 2010 1:51 AM PST up reply actions  

If Hall is coming

Wonder since the Dodgers are close with Hall if they end up doing two trades, since they will still need a spot for him as well……When I see the Passan FA note above, a part of me says lets see what Jamie Hoffman and Gibbons can do.

by wineracquet on Dec 16, 2010 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

Renteria's comments showing disdain for the Giants offer

made me laugh. Not sure at who, or even what, but it did. You thought Martin was delusional? I kind of have to side with the Giants (ack!) on this one, he doesn’t deserve more than a million given his age and decline, WS heroics notwithstanding. Still, was hoping he’d end up in SF for something expensive.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 16, 2010 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

Old declining/declined vets

never change

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 16, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Hall has a strange set-up

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11267755

He starts his at-bats with his left leg stretched as far as he can away from the batter’s box. Then he moves it forward as a timing mechanism. It will probably get annoying if he starts the year striking out time after time.

by kinbote on Dec 16, 2010 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

As long as he doesn't smile while K'ing it'll be less annoying...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 16, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't Carl Crawford

do the same thing from the left side?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 16, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

almost relavant

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 16, 2010 11:00 PM PST reply actions  

Chewie is a southpaw?

Sign him up!

(Get it, southPAW?)

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL David

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 17, 2010 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Finally finished

the holiday newsletter. Yes, we are those people.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 16, 2010 11:39 PM PST reply actions  

My wife wanted to do one of those

but I told her we’re not that old and don’t have kids. We’re just doing Christmas cards this year, complete with photo of us on the front.

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 17, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
we’re not that old and don’t have kids

exactly.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 17, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I broke my ‘z’ key………………….

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 12:43 AM PST reply actions  

back in my day we didn't have a Z key to scroll comments

we had a type writer and the keys would stick and you would get blisters after typing a single paragraph

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 17, 2010 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Guerrier on XM Radio

Dude was interviewed by Dibble. Guerrier doesn’t have much of a personality. He really loves that third year he got from the Dodgers….otherwise he would be with Boston.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Dec 17, 2010 6:48 AM PST reply actions  

Jeff Passan is not a fan of the multiyear contracts for relievers

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak5XcXkXmdn1lg7E8ajywloRvLYF?slug=jp-relieverscolumn121710

Can’t say I disagree: the bullpen has to be one of the most fickle areas in baseball. Pitchers come and go like nothing. I still remember when two of our better options in relief were Mike Fetters and Giovanni Carrara. :-/

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 17, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

Grant Balfour is still out there

Get off your ass, Colletti! We need to secure the 6th inning right now!! This floor ain’t gonna mop itself!!!

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

If we're that desperate to give up our 2nd rounder

we should sign Pavano and have the greatest 7-man rotation EVER! :-)

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Dec 17, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone up above

Grant me the power to make it to 12:15pm today. After that . . .

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

5 o clock somewhere

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

There's a fine line between sanity and insanity

Today, I can’t even see that line. I think it was written in chalk right before the rain came. Maybe I’ll convert myself—Jeff Bridges-like—into a blue motorcyclist and cruise around Eric’s Payroll Worksheet. Better make sure I don’t skid out on Russ Mitchell’s italicized salary.

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

The LF situation has been endlessly debated

but I still don’t understand why people are bitching about not signing a “big bat” for LF.

Aside from mayyybe Berkman, who the hell could possibly have been signed for LF? We were never going to sign Crawford, Werth or Dunn, and frankly I’m glad we didn’t hand out those contracts (although I guess Dunn’s isn’t as terrible).

Who the hell else is out there? No one! There is nothing else that can be done other than a trade or signing Bill Hall, so I really don’t understand all the conjecture about getting this “big bat”. Its not going to happen. We might as well wait and see what low-hanging fruit is left in February. I just hope its not Podboy

by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

For me

I’m not looking for a “big bat” I’m looking for a good bat, and frankly the only person who resembles that is Johnny Damon among the free agents.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 17, 2010 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea but he wants a lot of money for a declining bat and last year I remember reading a quote from him pretty much admitting that he couldn’t play a full season in the OF.

by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

And try not to cringe when he throws toward second base……….and when it finally rolls there……..

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

You think he could actually make it there? What kind of wind conditions are we talking? What I remember from his Boston days is baserunners brazenly rounding third base while he was in the motion of throwing home. Several popgun companies wrote formal letters of complaint to journalists who insisted on insulting their product.

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. And I always assume the fielder has the wind at his back. :)

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

And I heard it was rag companies complaining……………

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It just wasn’t a good offseason to be in the market for an OFer, knowing that there were few options past the big guys. Bill Hall maybe the best we could’ve expected.

by OB12 on Dec 17, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. If anything, this was the off-season for a stop-gap 1B, but they don’t want to trade Loney so that’s a moot point as well.

by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

He took less money and years to stay in Detroit though. Never seemed realistic, plus he still had his own blemishes for $10mm.

by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

$10 million for a year is less money?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

My search for lunch today is down to leftover eggs or buffalo wings, with a “strong preference” for the sauce-laden wings.

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

Very right-headed of you

by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 8:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

gotta keep that left head out of the decision making process.

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve got it!

All we need is: a Gary Scheffield-like hitter, with Rickey Henderson-like speed and a Roberto Clemente-like arm, who plays 3rd base, shortstop, and centerfield, and can pitch in relief on days he’s not scouting the Mexican league for prospects, picking up towels in the locker room, or parking limos in the player parking lot.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

So you want a young Gary Sheffield?

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

You forgot championship-caliber makeup and a strong desire to mentor his teammates.

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

he better

have grit

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like Billy Hall to me!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 9:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

so is LF now

Hall-e-wood?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

nice

Better than the Podsednook

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Kearn County

Do, do, do you have it?

by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Here’s the Nick Jr. scouting report on Little Bill:

Little Bill
Little Bill is an energetic five-year-old African-American boy with a sunny personality and an inquisitive nature. As any typical five-year-old would, Little Bill learns from the world around him, and its impact on his life. The primary lesson he learns is that even at five years old what he does matters. His vivid imagination and fun loving nature make him a natural leader when it comes to making up a game, or creating a fantasy to act out with his friends. He tries hard to be fair and do the right thing, but like all kids, he sometimes stumbles and has hard lessons to learn. Luckily, he always has his support network of family and friends to help him through any challenge.

by kinbote on Dec 17, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Does he park limos?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

NPUT

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/17/1882014/baseball-hq-top-15-dodger-prospects

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 17, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

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