If You Sign Scott Podsednik, You'll Shoot Your Eye Out
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 11:58 AM PST
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PrintYesterday, Tony Jackson of ESPN Los Angeles reported the Dodgers had narrowed their 2011 left field options down to two choices:
The team's search for a left fielder, according to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, has been narrowed to two players: Bill Hall and Scott Podsednik, with a strong preference for Hall because he is a right-handed hitter.
Today, Hall has reportedly signed with the Houston Astros, per Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, on a one-year, $3 million deal with a mutual option for 2012. That would leave the Dodgers with just one choice.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge...only I didn't say fudge.
Don't do it, Ned.
There is nothing Podsednik brings to the table that a hybrid of Tony Gwynn Jr., Jay Gibbons, Xavier Paul, and/or Jamie Hoffmann can't match. Christmas shopping season is over.
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This is the National League
Players have to play in the field.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think half the reason I can't stand Podsednik...
..is not just that he’s, you know, “bad at baseball”, but because he’s one of those guys who managers inexplicably feel the need to play eight days a week NO MATTER WHAT.
http://www.mikesciosciastragicillness.com
by Mike Petriello on Dec 17, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions
Willingham
got traded to the A’s, I believe.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I’m guessing Oakland won’t want to trade Willingham, since they just got him yesterday.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
damn
didn’t see that. but my point remains. Broxton looks like he could be trade bait.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I think I may have to hotkey this to reply to anyone who suggests trading Broxton
Broxton looks like he could be trade bait.
http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2010/09/30/is-jonathan-broxton-tradeable/
Do, do, do you have it?
Well, from reading that, it actually looks like there really are a few trading partners. He admits that Detroit, Cinci, and St. Louis are possiblities. I wouldn’t dismiss WhiteSox, Angels, Brewers, or DBacks like he did.
I know that his point was that Broxton is not viable trade bait, I just think he’s wrong.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
i doubt stl puts a 7mil reliever on their team who will hit arb the same year they try to re-sign Pujols. Unless of course they decide to go for it this year with the assumption that they won’t be able to sign Albert next year.
Do, do, do you have it?
That being said
I would HATE to face Carpenter and Wainwright in a playoff series knowing Broxton is down in the pen waiting to slam it closed.
Do, do, do you have it?
true
but if he gets traded, no matter where he goes, the dodgers will likely have to eat a good portion of his salary.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
The Angels have committed ~$8.8 million to two relievers in 2011 salary this offseason, plus are paying Rodney another $5.5m. They aren’t acquiring another pricey reliever.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not a bad option
for a 4th OF spot…but we’ve got a lot of those already. Although I’ll admit he’s better than most of the options left.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
This thread is going to have a familiar air to it
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Sorry, I tried to hold it in, but I’ve been eating a lot of beans and milk products.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
New Acronym: GTDNSSP
Good Teams Do Not Sign Scott Podsednik
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
How about good teams don’t create a situation where Scott Podsednik is a palatable option.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
GTDCASWSPIAPO
That’s a tongue-twister.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Also GTDGDWBHSE
Good Teams Don’t Get Disappointed When Bill Hall Signs Elsewhere
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That's a good one
Sums it up.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm not
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
by Pure Azure on Dec 17, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was hoping for this picture to be added to your post
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Love the Christmas Story reference.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions
I dont know what else to say. It's good to point this out
but it’s not like Ned cares what any of us think anyway. Maybe we could start working on some connections inside the Dodgers and get word to him…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Is Kearns crap against righties? his overall numbers have always been pretty good.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 17, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions
Not as good, not surprisingly, but not that bad
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=kearnau01&year=Career&t=b
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I would take that over Poddy any day of any week of any year during any period of time in the history of humanity.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 17, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants offense of the past few years is going to be the ’27 Yankees compared to the 2011 Dodgers. At this point – bring back Manny.
by oshea2002 on Dec 17, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
seriously
at worst, he’ll play 1/3 of the seasons with an OBP of .380
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Or we could just sign any mediocre outfielder and then
use whatever magic pixie dust the Giants used last year.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think I agree. This would be my #1 choice right now.
by CarolinaDodger on Dec 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Dear Matt Kemp,
The season relies entirely on what you do next year. If you hit well, the team could do something. If you don’t, they won’t. So pretty please, with sugar on top, don’t fuck it up.
Your #1 fan,
Humma
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I SAID I'M YOUR NUMBER ONE FAN
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Rumor has it that Kemp and Umbrella have or will split.
So here’s hoping his rebound is at the batter’s box.
That explains Kemp's poor year last year
He was the subject of frequent T-virus experiments by the hands of Albert Wesker.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
by TomasC on Dec 17, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
awesoke
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Thank god Jeff Francouer is already signed
by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sadly, Jeff Francouer would get on base more than any other player we’ve signed so far.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
You know, we could always sign Adrian Beltre and move Casey Blake to Left Field.
by Tripon on Dec 17, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
As much as I would hate Blake in LF, I like the outside the box thinking.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
other then hudson any decent 2b out there?
someone else suggested it yesterday but sign a 2b move blake to lf and uribe to 3rd.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Hudson
is going to the Padres.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Which would be
why I said other then.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
ah sorry
i focused on the “out there” as Hudson no longer is :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
young people these days
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
aren't I older than you?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
probably :-p
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
:-P
back at ya
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
not that it would ever happen, but i think that would be a really bad move. ive always that beltre is really overrated.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
It comes down to the fact
that he plays really good defense and hits better then most 3b in the league right now.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
but he’s almost certainly not going to hit up to the amount of money he’s going to be given.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Positional value
is a real thing.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I understand that
But when you have someone who’s only hit .280 or above 3 times in his 13 year career (one time clouded in steroids, the other in, uh, Fenway) and you’re touted as one of the top free agents this offseason…I’m just saying his offensive numbers are overrated.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
He played in Safeway field
Its kinda like playing in Petco.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
OK
and he’d be playing at Dodger Stadium, which is a lot like playing at…Safeway.
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Only way I like a Beltre signing is if it’s a 1 year, 12mil deal with 4 consecutive club options for increasing value.
Do, do, do you have it?
Well, he only hits in his walk year, so a one year deal is the only option.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
That’s what I meant. It’s basically 5 straight 1 year deals, and if he can get better elsewhere, don’t let the door hit ya.
Do, do, do you have it?
But if they are club options, then he doesn’t have the choice, does he? Dodgers pick up the deal and he is stuck.
4 consecutive mutual options would work. Or allow him to opt out after X years or something.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure he will come cheap
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Well, in 2011...
2011: $7.5m
2012: $13.5m
2013: $19m
2014: $21m
2015: $23m
2016: $3m (deferred bonus)
2017: $3m (deferred bonus)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot to add a smiley face to my 5/$90m proposal :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
do eeet
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
That makes sense and would improve the team
So there’s no chance of it happening.
or why not convinve Ken Griffey Jr to come out of retirement.
I’m sure he’s well-rested :)
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
i'd be for it
Don’t know if the Cubs would. Have they mentioned whether or not he’s on the table?
by court168627 on Dec 17, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I like that idea
Would we put him in CF and then do the Kemp→RF and Ethier→LF thing, or is he a mediocre defender too?
i don't think he's a CF
RF is where he plays
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Good news bad news
bad news: my g/f’s flight from SFO to the midwest was so delayed she’d miss her connection so she’s going tomorrow morning instead. the good news: i get extra time with her! pass the gin, humma!
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No, I'd be already too despondent and drunk to post here if that happened.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
isn't Marcus Thames still available?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions
i'll take one
please
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I know it's just his name, but when I hear "Marcus Thames," I want to sing,
The worst pies in London,
Even that’s polite!
The worst pies in London,
If you doubt it, take a bite!
Is that just disgusting?
You have to concede it!
It’s nothing but crusting!
Here, drink this, you’ll need it!
The worst pies in London…
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Let's just put Gwynn in CF
and hope for ’88
by Lex in Brooklyn on Dec 17, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions
Angels make significant offer for Beltre
per the LA Times.
If the shoe fits…
…then check the price of the shoe and see if you can afford it.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I r shocked
Time to get that A’s Rangers Angels bidding war going.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
This is, of course, a precursor
to a “mystery team” coming in and snagging him away for more money or more comfort?
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
going back to the Mariners?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Especially with 3 teams in the same division
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
article says he's looking for 5/$75
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Good ol' Timmy Brown
says it might be closer to 5/$80.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsBUfumyWin55jIrFZVPPXkRvLYF?slug=ti-beltreupdate121610
Of course, that last $5m is probably in deferred payments from now until 2020…
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Eric
has a 5/$90 plan above.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Me likey very mucho
Do it, Ned.
DO IT!!!!
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Good News!
Rusty Ryal is available and comes with a free trombone.
by BFDC on Dec 17, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
found this odd
I thought I heard a japanese team wanted him, so why just release him unless you were doing Ol’ Rusty favor.
Do, do, do you have it?
Rusty Ryal is available and comes with a free trombone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC75aU47GRk
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm on the Milledge bandwagon at this moment.
If he sucks, the team can just DFA him and move on. They’re not going to do that with Scotty Pods, or any other veteran worth more than a million.
I keep looking for the ZIPS projection that put Milledge in the HOF (was it 429 HR?), but I can’t find it.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
ahhhh... here it is
I think it’s safe to ssay that this was, um, optimistic.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/szymborski/milledgecareer.JPG
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that would work!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
One thing about Lastings, he doesn’t last with any one team for too long.
At least Milton Bradley had some pop in his bat.
To be seriously considering this clown shows just how desperate times have become.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 17, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Ain’t it the truth.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wrap your brain around this
his best OPS in that scenario was .996. Manny has a career average of .999.
Dang.
Do, do, do you have it?
AUGGGHHH MY EYES!
So far, I think that has to be the most ill-fated long-term projection I’ve ever ran.
by D.Szymborski on Dec 17, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, lets see how that works out.
DbacksInsider Arizona Diamondbacks
RT @sbnarizona: #Dbacks GM Kevin Towers says Xavier Nady to play almost every day & get 400-500 plate apps. Said last year was “rehab” year
Yikes. Good luck with that.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So if Hall was happy to sign for 1 year
what is it that prevented him signing with the Dodgers? We didn’t seem to have any problem paying for Uribe and Barajas.
There’s a mutual option for the second year, which gives him some security. He also gets to play 2B for Houston, which he seems to prefer.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Because the depressing thought of Podboy on this dull, dark and soundless day
in the autumn of the year, when the clouds hung oppressively low in the heavens needs to be purged, here is something that may amuse you.
Baby Monkey (Going Backwards On A Pig)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You think that's good?
Here’s And the Pips
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Big Ten
is rethinking the weak “Legends” and “Leaders” division names. I’m suggesting:
“Three Yards” and “Cloud of Dust”
“Six and Six” and “Makes Twelve”
“Butt Cold” and “Freezing”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Love them, especially the second group.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
What happened to: East & West, or North & South?
More descriptive, and obviously nobody really cares if they are North, South, etc. See: NFL divisions
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
According to my ex-wife............
Those arrows should be reversed.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
They should name the divisions after whoever won it the year prior.
Something extra to play for. Imagine Ohio State playing in the Wolverine division.
Do, do, do you have it?
by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, that's a really cool idea.
You’d have three years of the Buckeyes or Badgers division, guys on that team would be like, “We own this division!” I think that really would spur competition. Could you send that to the commish, please? I mean, it’s not like the division names are going to stick or anything, so make them malleable.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Dec 17, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
By one, play left field for free.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Can I just get my money back now?
sanity thief
by atomsareenough on Dec 17, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think signing Scott Podsednick
would be the worst thing in the world, and I honestly don’t think he is much better or worse then the other candidates, including bill hall. The difference between him and bill hall is not going to be what makes or breaks our season, that is going to be whether or not the Giants offense just sucks, or mega-sucks.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Pod person
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
This is true. I just don’t like Pods as a player, and don’t think there is much upside. At least in theory, even with a guy like Hall, there is a chance, albeit slight, at a good season.
Given that Pods appears to be the remaining choice as picked by the Dodgers, I would just prefer they didn’t do anything, and wait and see with the current group.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Bill Hall's alure
was supposed to be he mashed lefties, something he actually hasn’t done since 2008, and in 08 and 09 he ops’d lower then 700. Looking at pods numbers over the last few years compared to halls, I just don’t see it, unless we really think Hall will reproduce last year.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Bill Plaschke
Got this direct message from Bill today after I followed him on twitter just so I could make fun of his ignorance:
BillPlaschke
Hey there: Unlike LA Times or ATH, I can’t be muted or muzzled here. No Reali, all reality. Should be, um, interesting.
One word, wow!
I wish Bill Plashke would spend a little more time pretending he was muted.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
Baseball figurines
Made by a cousin of a coworker. Cool stuff:
http://hartlands.com/baseball.htm
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 17, 2010 2:17 PM PST reply actions
Note: make sure sound is off before clicking link.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, sorry, have no speakers on work computer.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 17, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, he’s just a collector/seller.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 17, 2010 2:21 PM PST reply actions
I love that picture of Pods
Is that a very large goiter he’s sporting, or a a really out of control erection?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Stunned
by my defense of signing Pods
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I wish I was. One of the coolest places I’ve ever been.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 17, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
praying for the next hour to come swiftly. then I have to go do some christmas shopping before the movie starts at 7.
I hope people realize they can come for the movie and grub and leave whenever. Not going to feel bad if you don’t want to stay up until 3am.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
Still trying to figure out if I’ll be available on Wednesday for karaoke. I hope to make it.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Playing Rounders
in the snow.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 17, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, I’m here. Of course, just rolled into the office a couple of hours ago, took me a while to be able to load up the page. I have trouble following these threads, though, so I mainly just browse around, then realize everyone has moved on to the next thread.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Dec 17, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Still no 40 man roster move announced?
Seems like they’d have to make a move today…not sure of the official rules in the offseason, but it doesn’t seem right to have 41 guys on the roster for more than a day
Wouldn't matter
They’d have to DFA him before placing him on waivers.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I think you have 10 days to place a man on the roster, but I could be making that up.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Just talked with Maddz about tonight
I guess we’re going to cancel tonight because of schedule changes and whatnot. I think it’d end up just being Josie and Tripon which, while it may be a good reality show, wouldn’t be much of a group outing.
Will copy/paste this into the event thread too.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
by G.Scott on Dec 17, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
I would watch The Josie and Tripon Show.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think it died the second it said end time was 3am.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
I wouldn't mind
If I wasn’t driving to Frisco the next day.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Hey if it wasn’t a terrible week for me, I’d be in.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
If it wasn't for my horse
I would totally be there
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
If it wasn't for being a huge nerd and completely lame
I’d be in.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone has too many obligations this time of year.
I have to get my Kwanza decorations up, still have to spit-shine my garage. Then theres tha annual rotating of the air in my tires. Way too busy…………
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Heeeey
I work down here! Besides, I said from the get-go that today and tomorrow had unbreakable conflicts. Unbreakable Conflicts – decent album title.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you all wouldn't mind
could you rec this top comment so people scrolling through will see it.
Thanks.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
How about we just go with two outfielders
our extra player can stand 10 feet in front of home plate, blocking the release of the pitch to home plate to block the batters view, only to duck at the last minute so the ball doesn’t hit him.
only to duck at the last minute so the ball doesn’t hit him
I was right with you until then. You set up a perfect everything-stays-in-the-infield strategy, only to ruin it with the ducking.
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Seems like a strategy Herb Brooks would have used
It’s about toughness, damn it!
IMO just find pitchers with enough control not to hit the dude.
Or just have the player stand behind the pitcher and move about the cabin.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
XF may have just figured out a use for Eugenio Velez.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Vegan Party. That said, sorry for eating your cat.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 17, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions
Bartlett trade official
Padres acquired SS Jason Bartlett and a player to be named from the Rays in exchange for RHPs Adam Russell and Brandon Gomes, LHP Cesar Ramos and 2B Cole Figueroa.
Just saw the Hall story
I’d rather stick Gwynn in center than Pods in left. But I can’t imagine Ned not signing him now.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 17, 2010 3:27 PM PST reply actions
That sounds great
till G Jr puts up an ops of .600
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Well if you adjust his numbers out of Petco, he’s at .670, and if he can just improve his average 20 points he’s at .710. Totally reasonable for a plus defender in center.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Eric, I think you’re missing the bigger picture here. Ned has to sign Pods, not just for his crappy (yet gritty) offensive stats but for his penchant for turning routine fly balls into an “I think he lost the ball” affair. C’mon, who else but Scotty “Every Play an Adventure” Podsednik do you want as your left fielder?
Oh…your answer (as is mine) is “anyone else”?
Secondly, good job on bringing in my favorite Christmas movie into TBLA. Now, about that Christmas Vacation tie-in…
(And, BTW…daughter #1 is now an employee of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim)
Sabotage from the inside? Excellent idea.
by delias man on Dec 17, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Congratulations
Is she in charge of ferreting out the Anaheim Stadium rats and getting rid of them?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 17, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well if we are going to poke an eye out
ie – sign Pods. Let’s just limit it to one eye and not both eyes plus an ear drum, ie – signing him to a multi-year contract.
Best case scenario: One eye poked out
Worst case scenario: Two eyes, an ear drum and a left testicle.
So...
1. If we didn’t sign our latest reliever, we’d have the money for Bill Hall most likely… I’d make that “trade”…did we really need that extra arm?
2. I suppose if Matt Kemp remembers how to play baseball now that he’s single, and Either stays somewhat healthy, our 2 OF now can produce and start making up for this feeling of dire need for solid production from LF
3. Let’s hypothetically imagine it’s literally down to Pods… anyone up for skipping on that contract and just skipping straight to starting a minor leaguer and wing it? I mean seriously…their defense will be better and their offense will probably be more or less same-ish.
I think we’re all on the “we might as well see what Gibbons and Hoffman can put together” train.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
Stop the train I want to get off.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
And then, when they put together a 700 OPS with Gibbons’ mind-numbingly awful defense, we will have instructors in the proper procedure to pull one’s hair out.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm on the
“I don’t really give a shit what ned does in LF at this point” train.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
83 wins, here we come!
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
nope not on that train either
all this hand ringing over LF is pointless, and has been pointless since we found out our two options where hall and pods.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
nope not on that train either
I apologize. 78 wins, here we come!
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
With one of the best staffs in the league
we are going to win 78 games?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Sorry but
using NOT signing Bill Fucking Hall as a launchpad to more bitching about LF is inane and has me cranky. If we really think the difference between winning the division and not winning the division is the difference between Hall and Podsednick, we are fucked anyways so whats the point of bitching about it non stop?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Hell
as I said above looking at their performances over the last couple years Pods has a pretty damn good chance of being a better player then hall next year anyways.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Hell, don’t look at me. I didn’t want Hall, either.
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Look on the bright side
We could be the Astros, who just blocked their only player that projects as league average with Bill Hill.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, and he projects as worse than Jeff Keppinger.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
The Astros In One Sentence
The Astros blocked their best hitter, Jeff Keppinger, with Bill Hall.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
best hitter, Jeff Keppinger
isn’t that already a problem?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That’s why that sentence sums up the Astros so well.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I
hAd just traded Chris Johnson for Keppinger and draft pick in a sim league yesterday. This is how bad 2nd baseman are in the NL
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My infield last year had Keppinger and Andy LaRoche.
I did not win.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Here I fixed it, happy?
using NOT signing Bill Fucking Hall as a launchpad to more bitching about [anything] is inane and has me cranky. If we really think the difference between winning the division and not winning the division is the difference between Hall and Podsednick, we are fucked anyways so whats the point of bitching about it non stop?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I was being more ambitious/risky and thinking Sands.. :D
Yea, I’m silly that way
There are plenty who think we should do this.
They ignore these points:
1. It won’t happen
2. It shouldn’t happen
Other than that…
Now with 33% more Kavula
by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Why shouldnt happen?
I dont think he’ll learn anything in AAA.
I say let the kid play…and if he hits 200 the 1st month you keep playing him just like the Red Sox did with Pedroia.
I’m a big believer that guys can either play or cant.
The faster you find out, the more efficient your decision making can be.
I’m not a believer in the mental aspects of “oh no, what if he sucks..he’ll get totally depressed and quit”….meh. Just dont believe in that.
FWIW Sands hits RH, plays + defense and turned 23 last September.
Seems like between Gwynn, Gibbons and Sands, we could see what happens with the kid.
Sands vs Belt in the - AFL 2010 stats
Sands – 87 abs—→ 299/410/494, 3 hrs, 16/19 ks/bbs
Belt – 86abs——>.372/.427/.616 1hr, 9/24 ks/bbs
This isnt many ABs…but Sands looks every bit the prospect that Belt does.
Yeah
only 150 points difference there in OPS. No bigge.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
do you have those numbers?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Yeah in that small of a sample Belt putting the ball in play 5 more times can mean a huge swing in average.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sands was also on the taxi squad
he didn’t play as much
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
I’m going to be really pissed off if the Giants bring up Belt, and the Dodgers are wasting time on Hoffman/Gibbons/Paul..
Baseball is also about entertainment.
I’d much more interested if Sands was playing.
I just dont see what the Dodgers have to lose…if Sands sucks..you send him back to AAA. If he’s great…we’ll you just found yourself a piece to the puzzle…and if he’s just average…we’ll thats still better than playing XP or Gibbons bc Sands may get better with seeing MLB pitching….the other vets wont.
You think the team
that blocked Posey with Molina for half a season is going to not block Belt with Huff?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
what is his MLE from last year? or where does one look that sort of thing up..?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 17, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
It’s really hard to do now if a guy plays in multiple levels. Find Dan Syzmborski’s minor league translations spreadsheet and work from there.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Belt’s looks a ton better though.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
im pretty sure whatever Sands MLE is, its pretty rough.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 17, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, from what I remember it was in the .230/.300/.380 range, but that’s an ass pull from months ago.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
uf
its possible Hoffman puts up similar numbers, and Gibbons will give you more slg but not much else.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 17, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
You don't tire of this "argument" do you?
The fact that Sands struck out 123 times in low-A/AA combined last year alone says that Sands has got stuff to learn in AA/AAA this coming year. What’s the MLE for 123 Ks in lowA/AA, to Mark Reynolds level and beyond?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think he has stuff to learn to.
He’s not a finished product.
But I also think he’d be best served learning at the MLB level…bc even if he sucks its not like the Dodgers could put someone else out there that’d do much better.
His k rate IMO isnt even that big of concern.
Power/BB hitters are going to strikeout bc they swing for the fences and work deep in the count.
Jayson Werth – 2002- (age 23)…125ks in AAA. (443 abs)
2003 he was hurt…82ks in 298 ABs again in AAA…
2004 he came up to the Dodgers and produced.
I dont think Werth improved much by playing in AAA..certainly his k rate didnt really change by additional minor league experience.
I just dont see AAA serving Sands in a useful purpose.
If I were the GM, I can see not wanting to pin my livelihood on a 25th round pick from a D-II school with half a season of experience above low-A ball “learning at the MLB level”. (Messrs. Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuroda, Lilly and Garland might not appreciate it either). I can see, instead, letting him get more exposure to AA/AAA pitching to see how he continues to perform and/or improve.
You’re not seriously using one counterexample to claim that no one ever improves their K rate in the minors, are you?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
isn't that what he was projected as his ceiling?
Rollins with less power?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Who cares really?
Was Bill Hall going to make us that much better anyways? I’d rather have Marcus Thames, if we are going with an OF’r. Im still on board with Beltre. Blake is a pretty good defender at 3rd, I dont think he would be too terrible in left. Anything is better than Gibbons right? I like that Thames can play 1st too.
Was Bill Hall going to make us that much better anyways
no
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
The difference between having Bill Hall on the team, vs not…is marginal. So you go from 82 wins to 80…big deal..
But its somewhat the reverse of being really happy Uribe is on the team instead of Theriot…Thats not that much to be thrilled about…just like having Pods instead of Hall isnt that much to be upset about.
just like having Pods instead of Hall isnt that much to be upset about.
Until you realize Scott Podsednik is potentially the worst regular player for his position this side of Tony Gwynn Jr, Casey Kotchman and James Loney.
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
What makes Hall so much better?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
hell according to BR
the dif between hall and podsednick last year was .2 war. Two years ago? Bill Hall had -.7 cumulative to Pods 2.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Greinke officially asks out of KC
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Zack-Greinke-asks-Kansas-City-Royals-for-trade-fires-agent-121710
Too bad that’s not the Dodgers main need right now. And I bet the desperate “Big” teams like the Yankees will do what they can to get in on that racket.
But I wouldn’t mind acquiring Alex Gordon at this point.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
yeah
Gordon would be nice, Either in LF, or 3rd. Grienke is awesome though
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
What would it take
to swing a trade for Greinke/Gordon?
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
In this case
/ is = to &
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I really don't know
I assume KC will ask for a ton for Greinke, if they’re smart, and not a lot more for Gordon. Which is why I would just want to work a smaller trade for Gordon.
But yes Greinke is awesome.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I like the idea of geting Gordon. Royals want middle infielders. Trade DeJesus for Gordon. Have Gordon play LF or play 3B and have Blake platoon with Gibbons in LF.
by dodgers4life on Dec 17, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
everyone really
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Blake has a career OF uzr of..
7.2. That would have been better than any outfielder we have, except for Gwynn.
This is more evidence
for the Sign Beltre & Stick Blake In LF front.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I'd be honored
to join you in this crusade. :-)
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
He was also significantly younger
when he accumulated almost all of those innings in the OF.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Totally understood.
I think UZR is a pile of crap anyways. But.. he would be better than Manny, and probably Gibbons too. I mostly like Beltre, not just because it puts Casey in left, but also because he can play 1st against tougher lefties. He wouldnt be a good defender at first either, but I think his bat would make up for his defensive deficiencies at first.
he would be better than Manny, and probably Gibbons too
that is the faintest praise, like walking up to a girl in a bar and saying, “well, you aren’t the prettiest girl in the place, but you are better looking than all the trannies.”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I meant it in the faintest way possible..
Its sickening, but sometimes the trannies arent bad looking…Kinda like Casey Blake in left.
Is Lee even tradeable yet?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Well anyway Greinke's about the only guy I'd trade him for
(not that there’s a guarantee that Lee will pan out but want to see if he’s gonna be as good as I think he can be… anyway, moot point.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
its going to be a totally different team come 2013.
Uribe, Kershaw and Guerrier are the only ones under control on the 25 man, right? We’ll probably be paying at least 20 of them though.. LOL (on the outside, my tears are welling up deep inside)
does this make KC stop dragging their feet?
I mean he’s said now “I want out”. Does that make them more inclined to do it. It’s not like Oswalt with the ton of money coming. Grienke has a pretty friendly contract IIRC
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Trade for Granick?
Ely, Monasterios, and three B prospects. They just might do it!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
For LF...
I would really like to see a platoon of Xavier Paul and Jamie Hoffmann. Granted, Paul didn’t do well in 2010 for us, notwithstanding a AAA line of .325/.384/.579. With players like Martin, Etheir, Kemp,and Loney hitting well right off the bat in the majors, we have forgotten that MOST hitters who go on to have good MLB careers do NOT produce immediately in the majors. Let’s see if Paul can do better in 2010. If we don’t let him hit against lefties, all the better.
Canuck you are prospect fan and no love for Sands?
Only megaballs and me are on the Sands for LF campaign.
Taking additional supporters tho:)
Of Course I Love Sands...
…but I don’t love, or even like, rushing prospects to the majors before I think they are ready for the majors. I think Sands needs more time in the minors. Frankly, I am not sure he is even ready for AAA yet. I would start him out in AA in 2011. Heck, he started in low A in 2010.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 17, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
True but he’s already 23 and played 4yrs of college.
I think he’s at his ceiling so its time to find out if he can play or not.
I feel much more like I am standing on solid ground
when my Sands stance is the same as Canuck’s.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
We could bring JerrySands.gif back.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to see that
also, how would your stance be solid…if you were standing on…Sand?
Hehehehe
Winter is coming.
I'd rather just start Gwynn Jr. in CF at this point...
than go with what we already have or Pods.
@neufaustcan
Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts
I can’t believe I’m saying it, but I’m saying it: Tony Gwynn Jr. should start.
Hard to imagine it has come to this.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I mean there are certainly other CFs I'd rather go after...
but this option is better than any of the realistic options for LF, IMO.
@neufaustcan
I Would LIKE To See It Tried...
…but whether it works well or works badly would determine whether I like it or put up with it till a more-highly-thought-of prospect like Robinson or Sands can take over an OF starter job in LA. I do believe that the reason the Dodgers have been blase about filling the LF void is that they really only want a stop-gap till Robinson or Sands is MLB-ready.
Thats what Im thinking too.
I dont think Ned values prospects like we all do here.. he almost always signs a mediocre veteran, instead of calling up a prospect. In fact.. he likes to trade prospects, for crappy veterans.
I'm with you
regarding Paul against RHP, but I’d still rather get Hairston against LHP then Hoffman. As Ref says if someone gets hurt and you are already using Hoffman/Paul the fallback is Gibbons / Mitchell instead of Gibbons / Hoffman.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I've decided to just stick my head in the sand until LF is solved
and am, instead, watching the Dog Whisperer and the Lakers game.
Winter is coming.
The best answer because there’s no difference at this point.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
between the Dog Whisperer and the Lakers game?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The way the Lakers are playing right now in Philly?
No, there’s no diff.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
If cartoons have taught me anything, Bodhi will just drop an anvil on his head.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 17, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Or the dog
will punch the shit out of him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, I saw that
Born in Glendale and grew up in Lancaster in the 1950s. And I thought Lancaster was a bit of a hellhole now, imagine what it was like then.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yao Ming is out for the season again.
That is such a Faustian bargain. Be taller than 7 feet, million millions and millions of dollars, but have constant foot injuries that make you a cripple.
Micheal Vick
just showed up at the game
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions
Michael Vick
is at the Lakers/Sixers game. Crowd spotted him walking and went crazy cheering him.
We should get the dog that Maddz wants
and sick him on MV so the dog can ounch the shit out of him.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
One of the better movie opening weekends in awhile
with Tron and the Fighter opening the same weekend. Too bad the hurricane outside makes all travel impossible
still doesn’t mean I want to battle the rain and darkness. I’m don’t have X-ray vision : )
by Josie Becker on Dec 17, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
hurricane
the rest of the country is laughing at us.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
we all have our burdens, I’m sure a toothpick seems heavy to a flea
by Josie Becker on Dec 17, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently Brian Sabean was awarded for his talents
at the GIBBYs, thus completely discrediting the gibbys
TBLA should hand out awards
The GFYs.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'd watch that awards show
Who would you want hosting? I’d vote for Brad Penny or AJP.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
the host of the GFY awards?
I do believe that’s Eric Stephen’s bag. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
The highlight of the show
will be when Eric performs the Humma Kuvula penned rap about the 2011 Dodgers.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The creative juices are flowing.
Best Banning of a Commenter.
Best Rant
Best Drunken Comment
Best Game Thread
Best Humma Rec’d comment
Possibilities are endless.
Best Advice to the Lovelorn
Best Call Back
Best Commenter Nickname
Best Photo Caption
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Best Humma Limerick category
Would need several sub-categories.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 6:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
this is needed
Worst Trade Proposal
…solely to shame the offender
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
The Dodgers ought to
sign my Labrador retriever to play left. She can’t hit for shit, but I guarantee she’ll get to every ball within 100 feet.
Kentucky is trying to bring the NBA to their fair state.
hahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaa
When the NBA is already in OKC
that doesn’t seem far-fetched to me. The Kentucky Colonels of the ABA drew and that is a basketball state, what with the UK and Louisville programs. Heck, even the Hilltoppers of Western Kentucky.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
didn't John Wall
go to UK?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I know right? Next they’ll put a team in some other hick state like Indiana or North Carolina, it’ll just be the worst ever.
by Josie Becker on Dec 17, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
the NFL is teetering on insolvency, is what I heard
by Josie Becker on Dec 17, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
the TV revenue is what’s suffered, since no one in LA watches the NFL anymore
by Josie Becker on Dec 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
With Bill Hall gone I think we should go after Ryan Raburn of the Tigers. He like Hall has good versatility and some power. He would be a great fit for us.What do you guys think it would take to get him?
I like Raburn too
it really depends on who the Tigers like between him and Boesch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
I would think that the Tigers would want Boesch to start. I wonder if he can be had for a couple of prospects? Maybe Kyle Russell and John Link for Raburn.
by dodgers4life on Dec 17, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Tigers need pitching more than anything
and they were starting Raburn more than Boesch at the end because he was slumping.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'm really not a good judge of that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
I really can't see either guy being expensive player wise
both of them have hardly any ML time, and this was Boesch’s rookie season.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
I've been on the Raburn
bandwagon all week (or Boesch). Tigers are open to getting more pitching. There’s a deal to be made, But Ned is not usually that creative when it comes to acquiring non-grittyveterans.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
i agree there is a possible deal there
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Hey the Clips might win a road game
FYI – Clip SB Nation fans are a bunch of bloody whiners. They have already decided at age 20, 30 games into their careers that Aminu and Bledsoe have no upside.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Does the Woodlake or the Canoga still exist? Doubt you can drive further than that tonight without some jackass colliding with you.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Rocket was torn down somewhat recently.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’d take him.
He’s a 2TO hitter…bbs & ks.
You’d probably have to deal a pretty good pitching prospect for him…
Ethan Martin for Fowler?
what does 2TO mean?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
two true outcomes…a variation of three true outcomes (BB, HR, K)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
LOL, thanks
what position does he play? I’m guessing OF
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
How about a Jon for Jon trade?
Dodgers trade – Jon Broxton & Xavier Paul
Cardinals trade – Jon Jay
Jay’s 25 yrs old and put up a .300/.359/422 in his first season in the bigs last year.
He can play CF.
I dont know if its worth moving the OF around just to get him as an everyday CF’er…and he’s probably not much better than Pods…but he does have upside considering his age.
No way in fucking hell.
John Jay is a fucking mirage. The kind that managers love and get them fired because they’re not good baseball players, but look the part.
He's had an up and down minor league career..
2nd round pick out of Miami
2006 (Midwest League) – .342/.416/.462
2007(FSL & AA) – .265/.328/.387
2008 (AA & AAA) – .312/.382/.463
2009 (AAA) – .281/.334/.394
2010 (AAA) – .321/.394/.491
He’s risky and his bat would only play in CF.
I’d still trust him ahead of Paul/Gibbons/Hoffman though.
But wouldnt think he’d be that much better than Pods.
Payroll help
I’m trying to put together a payroll worksheet for the Nationals like the one Eric keeps posted. The plethora of young Nats players are killing me. I could use some instruction on how to best guesstimate 2011 salaries for players under team control and those going into arbitration.
I’m a long time Dodgers fan who moved to the DC area eight years ago and recently decided that the Nats fanbase (what little there is) needed me. I’ve read Dodger Thoughts and TBLA for years (and Tony Jackson before that), so I joined the sbnation blog Federal Baseball. A few days ago I wanted to know how much salary was available to pay for someone like Greinke, but alas there was no up to date payroll to be found. So, I’m making one.
The pattern I see is to start with $414k base and add a random $5-15k per year until arbitration, when ~40% of FA price is awarded, though sometimes not.
Does anyone besides Eric know how to predict this stuff?
The best way for arbitration players is to compare them to players of their own position and service time. The best resource out there is Cot’s Baseball Contracts, which has details for every team.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve been using that. I got a bit stuck on a 2nd year arb reliever, but I should probably just leave him for last since it’s so hard to compare and predict him.
Is the adding $5-15k thing realistic? I’ve got ten players under team control on the likely 25 man roster, so the money actually adds up.
For the most part, that’s a good rough estimate. Pay attention to their service time if you can get that data. Some teams have strict policies regarding certain amounts based on service time, but adding $5-15k per year is a decent enough guess.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 17, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
darn work
i miss hanging out in TBLA
at least the next 2 weeks will be workless. unfortunately i will be poor again. but i can go on TBLA if im not busy!
i went to bed at 9pm the last three nights. ouch
Didn't miss much
Hall
Pods
Hall
Pods
Limerick
Hall
Pods
Pretty much sums it up
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
oh we had GF troubles
last thread. Actually got serious for a bit.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
and Taco Man came by
we played a little foosball, played a little foosball
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
heh, I'm sure someone does
HSR
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Do commercials before youtube videos annoy anyone else?
Or are you willing to put up with.
This Vevo crap sucks.
Commercial every 3-4 vids.
Man, today I managed to fuck things up at work (on a day when barely anybody had to do anything), make Spawn cry, piss off Bride, lure Dan Szymborski here by reminding him of an embarrassing projection (when usually he does great work), and get on nolander’s and delias’s nerves with my relentless negativity.
I apologize, world. I’ll try to do better tomorrow.
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We all have days like that.........
The trick is to apologize profusely and not do it twice in a row.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
hehe
you weren’t so much on my nerves as a convenient target. Its all good, bros before hoes and all that.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
that sounds worse then I meant it
I wasn’t really targeting you so much as your comment seemed like a great place to rant.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I knew what you meant — and thanks, it’s appreciated.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
no problem
I can be pretty abbrasive at times myself. I love to argue and forget that not everyone else enjoys it or handles it as well as I do after the fact.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Oh I love to argue. It’s just one of those days.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
it all depends on how you do it IMO
Defending your point until the bitter end=fine
Making someone feel like an idiot for disagreeing with you=not cool
Didn’t see any of the second one today.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I was repeating the same point over and over. I didn’t have to do that.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
well i think at this point
there is very little new info to discuss
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, here goes........
After reading thru all the back and forth about who we should go after to fill the all-important left field spot on the roster, and our relief pitching deficiencies, and our lack of OBP, I have come to the following conclusions:
Barring injuries:
1. We have a very good starting pitcher supply
2. We have a very good relief pitching corp
3. We have enough oufielders to go around
(these outfielders can also hit pretty well, too)
4. Our infield is pretty good (fielding and hitting)
The main thing we have all been discussing is left field. Well, left field is the easiest position in the outfield. It’s where you hide the worst fielder. You don’t need a great arm, you just need to catch the ball, not trip over your dreads, and get it back to the infield. We’ve all talked about Gwynn playing center. Why? Is he better than Kemp? I doubt that the difference is that great. And Gwynn is the new guy. (Making considerably less, I might add) Put him in left, and don’t mess with the status quo. It makes people irritable.
I guess the purpose of TBLA is to be able to discuss these things, and many OT subjects that are NSFW, so let’s continue. But don’t forget to be considerate to the other commenters, and when you rip their balls off with a snide comment, make sure that it’s funny!
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Yes Gwynn is better by Kemp
by from everything I understand, a lot. Like he is elite and Kemp is average difference.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Why are there so many "by"s in my post?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
but only
defensively
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
Right. And the question is whether the improved defense in CF can in any way make up for the lousy offense.
Barring a creative trade or a deal that I don’t see coming, I don’t know that there’s a better choice right now than Gwynn in center.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
still
a lot of time between now and ST
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 17, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Cribbed from Weisman
Rafael Furcal, SS
James Loney, 1B
Andre Ethier, LF
Matt Kemp, RF
Juan Uribe, 2B
Casey Blake, 3B
Rod Barajas, C
Tony Gwynn Jr., CF
Man, that isn’t a good lineup. But if Kemp hits, Blake’s descent into geritatry isn’t too pronounced, Uribe has an OK year, and, most importantly, the pitching is as good as advertised…. then maybe.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Tripon’s probably right. Gwynn is probably (correctly) viewed as a fourth/fifth outfielder. If pushed into a starting role, he will not displace a starter (at least not regularly. If he is a reserve/occasional starter, I can see him starting in CF on the days he starts).
But Gwynn in LF makes no sense to me. His only skill is defense.
At the risk of disagreeing with Canuck, I just don’t want to see a Paul/Hoffmann platoon. I’m not a believer that either player can handle more than a bench role. And if we’re going to discuss platoons — for Pete’s sake, the Dodgers already need a lefty-mashing corner outfielder to platoon with Andre Ethier, never mind left field.
So I guess what I’m saying is: as unlikely as the Dodgers are to move Kemp and stick Gwynn in center, it is the move I advocate for now. Basically, I agree with Jon: we are stuck with a bad choice, and the only player who brings anything to the table at all is Gwynn with his defense.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
heh
How about a ‘get away day’ lineup that includes Gwynn, Navarro, Mitchell, Gibbons, and Carroll?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 17, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Jamey Carroll, Dodger MVP? Sounds great to me.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Ornake, if you’d been paying attention, I clearly stated we are going to go 83-79.
Oh man, I’m still doing it, but now I’m too drunk on gin to notice.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
No way in hell
are we winning 83 games with Gwynn, Mitchell, Navarro, Gibbons, and Carroll. Carroll however, gets a thumbs up.
Excellent....
To be fair, just because of two position players (LF and catcher) doesn’t mean it’s impossible to win 83 games…
You misread. I said, if our lineup was ONLY those, then we would not win 83 games. Now, with what we really have, Ethier, Kemp, Loney, etc., then 83 games are VERY reasonable.
Excellent....
No, you didn’t say that. You made the 100 to 130 comment after a comment about a “get away day” lineup, not an everyday lineup.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
If the giants could win 88 games last year
so can we
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Shhhh! I’m busy tweaking Ornake!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
If Gwynn starts at all regularly
it should be in center
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Storm Watch 2010
It just stopped raining but is still pretty wet. Actually, it’s lightly sprinkling now.
Perfectly dry inside Castle Kavula.
Unless you count the gin, which is flowing like the mighty Amazon.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
I have a SWOT presentation due next week
so I’ll be working on that all weekend. FML
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Single, White, Off-Topic?
Those are the best.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 17, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
It's been of Biblical levels here in San Fran today and tonight
hope it clears at least a little tomorrow. And a break next week when I have to head down to SoCal would be nice, too.
Sigh. I thought this was supposed to be a cold/dry La Nina year? Or did I mix up years…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I picked a great time to visit frisco didn't I?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Ozzie Canseco
2 years plus a vesting option – get it done Ned.
sounds great
but I don’t want to drive the mile it would take to get it.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
Sounds ok
But I don’t want to get dressed, drive 10 miles in the rain, eat the fucking burger then throw it up sometime this morning!
My son gave me a cold before he left for Vegas. (and I feel bad…..I didn’t get him anything)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Ned was fast asleep sitting up in his lazy boy when all of a sudden....
“Nomar” Left fielder. First base. Former Shortstop. Team guy. Can hit anywhere in the line up he yells. And the drifts back to sleep.
by Jason Ungar on Dec 18, 2010 12:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm hearing rumor that
Shin soo choo might come to LAD, anyone can confirm this rumor? (I’m quite sure it’s not true since we’re looking for RH bat and also LF, not RF, but u kno)
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/sports/mlb/view?aid=2010121818103643994
They’re saying that Boras is gonna try to go for arbitration hearing, and if Indians decline it, Boras will try to go to the team that has lot of korean fans which is actually LAD from Chan Ho Park, Hee Seop Choi, and Jae Weong Seo, and try to get a big contract for Choo.
Would anyone mind adding Choo into our lineup? (I personally don’t)
Mind? I'd freaking love to add him
But he’ll be expensive and I can see the Dodgers going “wah, we can’t afford him” or something. But man, he’d be perfect.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Of course I get nervous when Ned deals with Cleveland
but at least we know we’d be getting someone great back.
btw i like how the translation of that korean news page gave me back “Andre yisieo” for Ethier.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I’m all over this one, but udog is right, what would they take Ned for this time?
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 18, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
Trade Robinson,Miller,and DeJesus for Choo.
by dodgers4life on Dec 18, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
That article makes absolutely no sense
Choo is arbitration eligible, and the Indians tendered him a contract. He is going to arbitration (or they will settle on a deal beforehand, one-year or otherwise); there is no question about it.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
But what about the Andre yisieo contract!? What shall we do?
Oh, pass the kim chee.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I wouldn’t worry about it. Anyone who projects the future regularly will be embarrassed on a regular basis. If you really want something embarrassing, I’m partly to blame for ESPN Mag having the Mariners on the cover in March.
had a dream I was at opening day 2011
Dodgers lost 7-2. I was so mad.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 18, 2010 8:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions
did it reveal where the game was played? :-/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
hah was in LA
I have this really weird dream map of dodger stadium thats pretty consistent and reappears in every dream. its pretty strange. and of course, I am always lost.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 18, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
NPUT
We need a new subject and the Dodgers are played out right now so enjoy this.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/18/1883845/just-because-this-was-so-amazing
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Honestly, what does Ned have against
Lastings Milledge, Austin Kearns, and Marcus Thames, all of whom would be absolutely perfect for our current team need in LF? Did they all collectively make fun of Ned’s mustache or something?
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