Just because this was so amazing
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Double I Down wins comment of the day
Sounds ok
But I don’t want to get dressed, drive 10 miles in the rain, eat the fucking burger then throw it up sometime this morning!
My son gave me a cold before he left for Vegas. (and I feel bad…..I didn’t get him anything)
I’m sayin’ “What’s in it for me?”
by iiidown on Dec 17, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? Story-delete Delete Story-hide Hide 3
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Double? :-)
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by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
going to see the blake griffin gun show on 1/22
pretty excited. made sure to pick a team that refuses to play defense and has a meh front court for max enjoyment.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 18, 2010 9:49 AM PST reply actions
True story
I peaked in 8th or 9th grade
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
The Szymborski projections were out of sight!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
We are so God damn spoiled...
…with basketball in this town.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 18, 2010 10:31 AM PST reply actions
My fellow Lakers fans are definitely spoiled
I love (or hate really) hearing complaints about this or that when they have a relatively flat game, or quarter, even though they are still generally awesome. Spoiled indeed.
Fun to watch the young Clippers gel though. Griffin is already a human highlight real.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The kids assured me
that when they say something is “sic” – extremely good, e.g., on seeing Las Vegas the first time the teenager exclaimed, “this is sic!” - that that is how they spell it, not “sick”. What do I know?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
The reviews on urban dictionary are decidedly mixed
7. Sic 35 up, 47 down
Slang originating in Seattle meaning something amazing, incredible, or unbelievable.
Yo man did you see Kevin Durant against the Spurs the other night? Your boy KD is Sic!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
If Sir Mix-A-Lot taught me anything
it’s that Seattle ain’t bullshitting.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I assumed that was the reason for “47 down”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
LA Vikings or LA Chargers?
Sorry don’t know if this has been asked.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 18, 2010 10:47 AM PST reply actions
LA Chargers, and Eric can be the guy in the new DT stadium, wearing a Raiders jersey, as a single eagle tear rolls down his cheek
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Why use eagle tears
when Phoenix tears have healing powers?
Watch out for the medallion, my diamonds are reckless
whatever team ends up moving
they should be called the Los Angeles Football Lakers (or Football Clippers, if you prefer). Just because it’d be hilarious.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 18, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Bob Knight must not read the USC media guide
From the Trojans:
Note to the media: In editorial references to athletic teams of the University of Southern California, the following are preferred: USC, Southern California, So. California, Troy, Trojans and (for women’s teams) Women of Troy. PLEASE do not use Southern Cal.
Funny, I use Southern Cal all the time.
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by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
It does seem pretty anal for the school to put out such a proclamation.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I remember that making the news rounds a few years ago, it’s because they don’t want to be associated with Cal (seriously)
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone say/use So. California?
They have said this for years and years. Of course I then say “Southern Cal”, just like some folks like to say “Frisco”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
I always thought Southern Cal was more of a national use, where more of the locals used USC. But I guess in the 1970s or so Southern Cal was a prevalent use.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
for all the mental midgets who might confuse this with berkeley’s southern campus or something? dumb.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 18, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Penn and Teller in London
Backstage snacks. Love the sawblade cupcakes.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I haven't read this yet but
@MikeSciosciasTI Let’s Nip This in the Bud And Talk About Why Zack Greinke Isn’t Coming to LA: http://wp.me/p69kq-1AQ
But I can’t wait to get to it and spc7’s comments.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I thought of Maddz this morning
because I went first thing this morning to get my haircut and left the house in a pair of sweats.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
They need to market a specialty brew that is very, very dark and serve it on tap at Petco
Bud Black.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I actually forgot the game was at 9am this morning. I slept in.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Same here
9 a.m Trojans today and another 10 a.m game for the Lakers tomorrow.
I can’t see watching pro basketball at 10 in the morning. baseball sure, but not basketball
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
He gonna Vujačić it?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Big NBA deals could go down soon
Arenas to Orlando for Rashard Lewis.
Another trade would bring Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson to Orlando for Vince Carter and Marcin Gortat sending them to Phoenix.
That seems like a great mushroom offense
Howard in the middle, surrounded by Richardson, Nelson, Arenas, and Turkoglu.
Defensively….
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Dan Wheeler signs with the Red Sox for one year, three million. Commentary unnecessary.
@andrewngrant
I don’t think Ned was interested in a ROOGY.
by silverwidow on Dec 18, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
O-Dog
Here is the breakdown of his deal, per Jerry Crasnick of ESPN:
2011: $4 million
2012: $5.5 million
2013: $8 million option ($2 million buyout)
So the Padres make O-Dog their highest paid player, trade for Bartlett, but get rid of Adrian Gonzalez.
Plan?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
With Bartlett and O-Dog 1-2 in their lineup, they do have some OBP at the top (~30-35 points higher than last year). But after that, I got nothing.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Jason Bartlett gonna make almost exactly what Gonzalez will this year.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
OT TV news:
For those of you that enjoy good comedy for friday night strikes again.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/its-over-for-foxs-the-good-guys/
for friday night strikes again. This should read:
Fox friday night strikes again.
Next target: Fringe!
Fringe will survive! It’s reanimating Friday nights? (on the serious did you see that trailer? it was all bang, zoom!)
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
FYI
im looking forward to TBLA karaoke night.
Already thinking about what songs to do so I dont spend hte entire night in the song book ;D
$700,000 if in majors, $14,000 per month if in minors.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Renck also has news on Eric Stults
Eric stults has out in 435k minor league deal. Can sign w Hiroshima Carp for 100k if not on major league roster. He pitched in japan last yr
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
About to go down
Gilbert Arenas from the Wizards to Orlando for Rashard Lewis.
And Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark from Phoenix to Orlando for Vince Carter, Mickael Pietrus, Marcin Gortat and a 2011 1st round pick.
On first thought, the Magic match up better with the Heat now. I think the East will end up coming down to matchups.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I dont like the 2nd trade that much
Pietrus and Gortat were two of the their best defenders outside of dwight.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
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And guess who will be there in person
;-)
I just hope it’s a good game. Don’t expect miracles, as it were, and expect mistakes, but maybe he’ll make it fun to watch the Broncos again. Or not.
And yeah Schefter confirms it even though not official.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I never knew it was possible to hate Guy Fieri more.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
just when you think you hate him enough, he douches himself out even more
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sure you underemployed guys who have all day to cook from scratch
hate her stuff. ;-) (I know nothing about her show and recipes, but the concept itself seems tailor-made for working families, but ripe for product placement abuse.) There’s also this:
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
She also had the football episode in which she was completely dressed in USC garb, and her whole kitchen was USC decorated. I couldn’t find any quick pics via Google images, though. :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
And just as easy to prepare as tossing some chicken and herbs together.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
no dude
she is an affront to food, regardless of your socio-economic location.
Also, she’s now the first lady of NY.
Winter is coming.
This pretty much covers it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
On the other hand, lady knows how to party.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
1. Add ice to glass
2. Pour in hypnotic
3. Party
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I get it
although the argument made there misses one point, which is that it takes more time to go to the store and stay stocked on the ingredients to prepare fresh food all time and sometimes you just gotta rely on stuff that stores a lot longer.
That said, I’m much happier eating food that I prepared fresh than from “convenience” items.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You feel really strongly about this subject, huh?
I’m all about the idea BEHIND the show, but some of her ideas are just…really out there.
Winter is coming.
I’m just supporting D. Young and working folk everywhere. My mom makes her chili, while I was horrified to learn the process, the end result is tasty. I think like any cook it’s gonna be hit or miss and when you’re working from her self-imposed limitations there’s gonna be a lot more misses
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
if you want some decent easy, quick, "semi-homemade" meals
Rachel Ray actually has a lot of good ones. Sandra Lee’s palate is just not, um, very good hahah while Rachel Ray has a lot more hits than misses and while she does get a lot of prepared stuff, it’s not like shes adding crap to crap like Sandra Lee.
So I think we are in what we call at work “violent agreement”. Semi-homemade as an idea is a palatable concept, just use good ingredients when doing so.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah, no problem with that. Just don’t do completely inane things like add cocoa powder to vanilla frosting so you can pretend its a recipe.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I can understand how that sort of thing drives people crazy.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
What’s surprising to me is that my personal opinion of Sandra Lee got conflated with food elitism. Listen, I eat easy mac. I like good food and I like to eat (obviously) and I’m aware people don’t have the time/money to eat organic or fresh or whatever.
But after watching her show a lot (and I do it for the cocktails and the tablescapes) I can honestly say that I am usually just flat out horrified at the combinations she puts together. I like the idea of semi-homemade — that’s how I cook a lot of the time — but her ideas are…holy god. That’s what I consider the affront to food.
I find Rachel Ray terribly annoying as a human being — why shorten it to EVOO if you’re going to say “That’s Extra Virgin Olive Oil” every single time right afterwards? — but I think that her recipes work AND they’re not some terrible idea like prosciutto, fig, and goat cheese quesadillas.
Anyway, I realize this conversation is dead and everything but I just didn’t want you to think I was being elitist towards people who rely on semi-homemade methods of cooking.
Winter is coming.
yep
i agree with you completely with that statement :D when i make chili, i use a jar of salsa instead of fresh onions and peppers (i learned this from alton brown of all people!). but i dont buy canned chili hahah
jar???? ;-)
I often have the fresh salsa that comes in a pint or 24 oz tub on hand to use as an ingredient for such things (and yummy on omelets) , and that stuff lasts a week or better in my fridge, but yeah, same concept.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
while length of storage
for a lot of food items is an issue, as long as you plan ahead (and have a grocery store nearby on the way home from work) you should be able to always have fresh food around.
i know its a huge pain to always have homecooked meals with fresh ingredients. i hit up pre-prepared frozen food from time to time and it def has it’s unavoidable place in life (especially for families with young children and working parents) but i also think there is so much more value in the results of the extra effort to make something fresh and healthier. also, frozen food is often not shared at a table as a whole family which is also a drawback. sure its easier and quickly to just eat whenever but the value of setting a table and having the whole family sit there and suffer thru each other has its value and its worth the extra effort, in my opinion.
Planning takes time too. And after slogging 30 miles up the 405, sometimes you just don’t feel like stopping at the goddamn grocery store. One thing that I like are fresh green beans. I like them in stir-frys, sauteed in various ways as a side dish, etc. They seem to last about a day and a half in my refrigerator. I really don’t feel like stopping at the store three times a week, so I just eat green beans less often. Others make make that trade-off differently.
Not sure how interrelated how you prepare the food and when and where you eat it are. I am in favor of mealtimes at the table, whether that meal is freshly prepared or a take-out pizza.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That said, as empty nesters, the wife and I often now eat in front of the TV so we can catch up on our DVR and DVD stuff while eating.
Not like we have anything left to talk about after knowing each other for 26 years. :-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
hahah
my wife and i eat in front of the tv too, but when we have kids that will change. and when we have friends over, etc.
also, take out pizza? if you can stop to pick up pizza, you can pick up some groceries, eh? ;D
apparently in Japan people basically go to the grocery store every other day because their fridges are so small and their food is so freshness oriented. same with most places not-America hahah I go to the store 3-4 times a week. It sucks but its so much cheaper than eating out and i’d rather make those extra trips than eat not-as-good-food. but that’s just my opinion of course hehe
it takes more time and effort
To stop at the store bury the food and tie it home and cook it the. It does just picking something up.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
by nolander on Dec 18, 2010 4:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
how ia there any cause effect
Relationship between eating frozen food and sitting at the table?
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
by nolander on Dec 18, 2010 4:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
if you are too busy to get fresh food
i assume you are too busy to take time to set the table and wait for everyone to be home to eat.
im sure thats not hte case for everyone but i bet its the average.
Who's waiting?
Sometimes you do stuff that has to get done – like pay the bills, fix the doorknob, whatever – and when everyone gets home you quickly make the food and sit at the table. Parking, going into the store, collecting your items, finding the damn “club” card, checking out, loading the car, bringing the stuff in, putting it away, that time adds up.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Dear God no, that’s 100% douchebag.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
As a Broncos fan, I'd say signs point to that being very unlikely. :-P
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hah. May Barrel Man R.I.P.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Did you see Bob's tweet about Ipswich and Leicester
How’d you like to play in that? http://bit.ly/gGEB1z
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I can’t believe the ref decided to let them play in that. Most games in England were cancelled today, cause cities like Liverpool were buried under two feet of snow
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Those Brits were pretty fucking tough though, playing in shorts, and two of those three guys without gloves!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
well their only in the Championship (Div2), they can’t afford to take a day off
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm back from Paris, The Parc des Princes
Before the match started, it snowed so much, I guess 3 or 4 feet in Paris…
Then the referee will not PPD the match (Paris Saint Germain vs AS Monaco) but the pitch was so bad…
But what a game I’ve seen tonight, 2 graceful goals by Nene (the best PSG player since Ronaldinho and Pauleta!!!!!!!!!!!!!)…
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
I wanted to recreate this match
in FIFA 11 because it sounded really cool, but they don’t have the option for snow in Parc des Princes and AS Monaco don’t have their third all white kits
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
ended up 2-2 anyhow, in the rain, with Erdinc scoring both PSG’s goals.
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Crazy, I have a hard enough time playing in a rainstorm
but that’s insane.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Great picture
I’d rather play in snow than in cold rainy conditions. Well, I’ve never played any sport in snow, but I’d love to try it once.
Speaking of Michael White and T-shirts, this one is for you
My belt holds up my pants and my pants have belt loops that hold up the belt. What the f*ck’s really goin' on down there? Who is the real hero?
I just got my Clippers shirt in the mail today. I really like it.
My wife thinks I should move my support to the Clippers because “they have better colors.”
Michael White is the man. Today is the first day in 10 that I have had to myself. I still haven’t been able to get his shirt mailed.
Either way, I will this week and MW rules.
Thanks for the shirt bro.
In the last 3 days
33 people have found True Blue LA by searching for Albert Einstein.
That is six fewer than those searching for Louise Bourgoin
I saw the Albert Einstein thing the other day
Not sure how that works. When I search for Albert Einstein and restrict to truebluela.com, all I get is Andrew Fisher’s sig, which has an attributed quote from him.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Thought this was funny, from Lakers beat writer Kevin Ding
Phil riffed about rookies on road, saying Caracter mistakenly ordered $45 pitcher of OJ for self & Ebanks ate only cheesesteaks past 4 days.
Phil: thanks for posting this. I saw it last night and several times this morning and I still enjoy watching it. Griffin’s an amazing talent, but what I like most about him is a) he works his ass off and b) he seems to really enjoy the hell out of what he’s doing. I wish more pro athletes had the same joy.
I hope that Sterling sells the team so that someone can build a team around him; otherwise we’ll see him in some other team’s uni as soon as he becomes eligible for FA.
Never happen.
Sterling’s made his bones by never selling anything. Owning the Clippers gives him access to the type of publicity he’s so desperate for, and he can make money no matter how awful the Clips are. 100% serious: The Clippers won’t experience sustained success until he dies.
by SoftballHuman on Dec 18, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Dodgers in contact with three for LF possibility
and none of them are Pods! Whew!
http://mlb.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/the_dodgers_and_left_field.html
Thames would be my choice except for the fact that he’s a bad fielder (but hey, that’s where Tony Gwynn Jr can come in).
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I wouldn’t mind Thames or Hairston over Pods. Why is Tony Gwynn Jr starting in your outfield? Etheir-Kemp-Gwynn and Thames, that’s four outfielders, are you gonna pull the shortstop?
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
He means Gwynn as Thames defensive replacement in the late innings.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes exactly
I meant Gwynn is a defensive whiz and would spell Thames. Sorry that was unclear. It’s a much better rotation than Pods-Kemp-Ethier-Gwynn
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
At this point, barring a trade
Dye LF
or
LaRoche 1B
Lee 1B
and Loney to LF
Dodgers need the Bat
That is all
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 18, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Thames is the funniest option, lets go with him.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know, the Loney in LF suggestion above might provide a lot of laughs.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
But we’d lose money on outfield fence repair.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Could Loney be worse as a defender in LF than Dye or Thames, Paul or Gibbons?
It is silly to underestimate Loney’s athletic talent, he displays it every day he plays at 1B.
Not great speed, great arm, and can track the ball.
He ran into the wall once, big deal, get over it. Kemp did the same thing.
Hairston, no power
Thames is a DH
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 18, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
heh
jus sayin’
The other LF options being discussed make me feel ill.
Dodgers need the Bat, not another warm body in the lineup.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 18, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
LaRoche is about to get three years from Baltimore, is there anyone else out there?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Loney's chief plus right now
is that he’s a plus defender at 1B…
And doesn’t his bat play as mediocre in LF as it does at 1B? Not sure I get the point of that move. Better off moving Blake to LF if we’re gonna shuffle around like that and, you know, sign Beltre (or get Betemit).
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Put Loney’s bat up against the other LF candidates currently being mentioned and it looks pretty good?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 18, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on Whether You Trust Statistics Or Your Own Lying Eyes
by CanuckDodger on Dec 18, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Does your lying eyes see other 1B like Mark Texieira, Albert Pujols, or Adrian Gonzales? Here’s the thing about 1B defense. There’s a lot of 1B who can play defense just as good as Loney, except they can hit a lot better too.
Did I Say There Weren't OTHER First Basemen Who Are Very Good Defensively?
You named three. You are going to have to list a lot more than that to even come close to validating your claim that there are “a lot” of first basemen who play defense as well as Loney. And among that group — whom I am sure will have fine or even wonderful defensive metrics — there will no doubt be people who are NOT credited with great defense by scout who depend on their lying eyes.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 18, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Here's the list of 1B ranked by UZR in 2010
Daric Barton
Ike Davis
Adam LaRoche
Derrek Lee
Joey Votto
Albert Pujols
James Loney
Adrian Gonzalez
Lyle Overbay
Gaby Sanchez
Casey Kotchman
Todd Helton
Carlos Pena
Mark Teixeria
Billy Butler
Adam Dunn
Miguel Cabrera
Garret Jones
Prince Fielder
Troy Glaus
Ryan Howard
Paul Konreko
Canuck, tell me who you like less than Loney on this list?
Whoa -- Hold On Now...
Loney ranked SEVENTH according to UZR and you called that “slightly above average?” Since you said that phrase I was assuming Loney must have ranked at 13 or 14. So now not just eyes but defensive metrics rate Loney’s defense at “very good.” Swell.
As for you do I like less than Loney on that list, that question makes it into a popularity contest, and that is not something that comes into play in forming the position that I have on Loney. My position is this: I too am disappointed in his offensive production. In the abstract, there are an awful lot of 1B’s I’d rather have than him. But this isn’t an abstract world. In the real world, we already have Loney under club control, a potentially better replacement (Jerry Sands) is already in the organization and probably no more than a season away from being MLB-ready, and given what Loney will cost in salary in 2011 on a club where payroll is being allocated to other positions, I think going with Loney one more year makes sense.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 18, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh, That Second Paragraph Above Should Begin:
As for your question about who I like less than Loney…
by CanuckDodger on Dec 18, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Look at at how many people are bunched up by UZR. Daric Barton and Ike Davis are ahead of everyone, and everyone else below him are separated by a few points.
Yes, Loney is 7th, but that he only has a positive 1.5 runs saved overall.
As You Said...
…there are OTHER first basemen who are good with the glove, so of course there will be bunching at the top. When Loney can rate above Adrian Gonzalez and Casey Kotchman — two outstanding glove men — that is really saying something beyond what our eyes have always told us about Loney’s defense.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 18, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
My point is that Loney doesn’t stand out on defense. He really needs to hit in order to be effective.
my eyes don’t lie, that’s my mouth’s job
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Right but you’re eating Loney’s bat no matter what. If your best option really is Marcus Thames, who honestly can’t be any better than Loney would be, and you can find someone who can on base better than .320, it might be worth it.
And I know this will never happen.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Thames appears to be our best option. I hope Ned isn’t too aggressive and tries to trade for a LF first. Quentin,Beltran, or Raburn would be good fits for LF.
by dodgers4life on Dec 18, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
If Marcus Thames is honestly the best option, give Tony Gwynn 600 at bats.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Dec 18, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
And Mike has more here
http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2010/12/18/lets-toss-some-more-names-into-the-lf-stew/
Basically agrees that Thames is the best of the stinky options, and his bat is best but glove is bad so why bother, basically. Agree with you mostly Mike. Still would rather add Thames’ bat to the mix over the other guys, but I’m ok waiting til Spring to see how things pan out and what other guys are suddenly available.
I wish Ned was better at seeing things more creatively, working trades for guys like Raburn, Boesch or Gordon. But instead he just sorts through the poopy veteran free agent pool. Tho I do understand the idea of a stopgap solution though so guys like Sands and Robinson will get a shot, so there’s that…
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sign thames anyways
platoon with loney. Win.
"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."
I'd get a good laugh
if on the day he was supposed to report, his agent just sent this picture
In an email which just reads HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
What the hell’s that bubble thing in the lower left corner?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
It’s part of a ferris wheel type thingy called “The Eye” on the South Bank of the Thames, across from Westminster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Eye
Might be worth it
Just to give Vin more opportunities for British references.
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Big Ten Division names
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nice, I actually kinda like this concept, it’d give teams like Northwestern an actual fighting chance, prevent Michigan-Ohio St in the championship every year
by Josie Becker on Dec 18, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I saw a car with the Lakers flag today.
It is December. I don’t know why I am annoyed by this, but I am.
IS it to early for the
Car flag scum to be out?
Mike Leach is the new coach at Maryland.
Guess he didn’t want to wait a month to see if UCLA would open up.
Lawler's Law
never in doubt.
Clippers win 100-99.
BIG RUMOR
Greinke to… THE BREWERS (rumor)
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/fanblogs/112137964.html
Saw that
Thought it kind of irresponsible of the paper to print that though at least now they are making it clear they know it’s just a rumor. If true, that’ll be quite a trade all around. Guess we’ll see!
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Rumor
The thing about the rumor at least they are putting names and dollars with the story.
Dodgers Left Field
As candidates for the Dodgers LF decrease. I still keep on thinking that if the Dodgers add Marcus Thames, as a part time LF/ right hand PH off the bench, movie Uribe to 3b and make the platoon in LF Blake, Gibbons, and a smattering of Thames, and then give DeJesus a shot at 2b, along with Carroll.
The advantages of this situation perhaps DeJesus becomes a high OBP guy, and while Blake is probably not a great LF, by putting him in the mix there, Thames defense liabilities are decreased.
or
xpaul
gibbons
loney
etc
small case to accentuate this group’s defensive impact on a game.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 18, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Greinke to the Brewers has now been confirmed by 2 sources..
Both the KC and Milwaukee papers are reporting it.
http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/brewersgreinketrade.html
Brewers get Zack Greinke
Royals get Lorenzo Cain, Alcides Escobar, Jake Odorizzi, Jeremy Jeffress
Great deal for the Brewers…
Royals what are you thinking?
Ned – please do these types of deals.
I’m in shock. That is a pretty terrible return for Greinke, even if Escobar is supposedly great on defense. Wow.
by silverwidow on Dec 18, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Brewers starting staff looks much better now..
#1. Greinke
#2. Gallardo
#3. Marcum
#4. Wolf
#5. Bush
With their offense they may finally turn into the team most thought they could be…
2010- 77-85….2011 they should win 85-90 games.
I Disagree That It Is A Low Price....
Three young majors leaguers — including a CF and SS because the Royals’ future looks set at the corners, and all with about 17 pre-free agency years left — plus a pitching prospect who is at the same level as Allen Webster but is better than Webster. And the Brewers take on a huge amount of additional payroll for one player for the next two years while the Royals lighten their payroll a great deal. The Royals didn’t get screwed at all.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 19, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
Greinke
has a very team-friendly contract considering he’s one of the best pitchers in the game. If this is true, the Brewers aren’t trading Prince this year, they are going for it.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Odorizzi
In Baseball America’s Top 20 Prospect list for the Midwest League this year, the report on Odorizzi contains the following quote: “Two scouts called him a lesser version of Zack Greinke.”:)
by CanuckDodger on Dec 19, 2010 3:12 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with Canuck to a degree. These are some big prospect names and hardly a bunch of stiffs. I know Granick is a guy you unload the farm for. The Brewers just did that. We’ll see if it works.
I imagine Grankle is worth all those prospects to the Brewers, but no other team could give the Royals anywhere near that for him. Granecke is one of the elite pitchers, but would not think that the Dodgers would need him. We have a pretty fair bunch of starters as is. I think Grenack will do well in Milwaukee, as it is a small market town.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Yeah excellent prospects
we’re talking arguably the Brewers two best (Escobar was their #1 last season, Cain, was in top 10 and had a good season), another good prospect, and yet another player we don’t know yet. Maybe they didn’t have to trade a more experienced great player like a Braun (not that this would’ve been realistic anyway) but for once I’d say it doesn’t look like lesser slop was traded for an ace.
Seems like Greinke also preferred to stay in fairly small market cities (didn’t want to go to DC, probably didn’t want to go to a Boston or NY either…?)
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Dayton Moore does it again
My goodness
"Oh baby refrain from breaking my face"
by angelofdeath on Dec 18, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I’m convinced that making trades is the easiest way to bring in elite talent.
Johan, Greinke, Adrian Gonzalez, Dan Haren…
You’d think GMs will realize that having 1 elite player is better than acquiring 2-3 non-elite players…but some havent.
Last I looked
none of the teams who unloaded their farm systems for the elite talent you mentioned above have even made it into the post season. At least add Halladay and Lee so the comment makes some sense. And you can add Teixeira to the group where it screwed the future while not helping the present.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I would note however
The Dodgers aren’t really searching for “pitching” (looks at the the last signing). If we’re trading prospects, it’ll be with Broxton for a bat.
On a side note, out of humor rather realism,
It’d be funny if Philly traded prospects to get him. Then they could just boast a 1-5 staff of epic proportions….
I am running out of the house now but
Outside of the financial cost, an equivalent offer (and this is maybe because 3 of the Brewer’s trade pieces have already played or at least made an MLB debut) would have been Dee Gordon, Trayvon Robinson, Allen Webster and I think you would have had to beef it up by putting in Kenley Jansen.
In other words,
Drain the minor league system for a pitcher we don’t need.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Dee Gordon is a SS
other then that, not much is equal to Escobar.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Seems like clockwork
that whenever a big time player is dumped the immediate thought is that they gave up to little. I blame the Teixeira trade for this behavior. The next thought is that that the Dodgers could easily have beaten the same deal. The same system that has one top 50 prospect and that prospect was in AA. There is no conspiracy, if the Dodgers had the players the other teams would want, then deals might get done. At this moment to many question marks are related to our most advanced prospects which all resided in AA in 2010. The Brewers got a major league ready SS, a major league ready CF, a solid pitching prospect, and one other prospect. When it comes to major league ready, we have nothing. Not this winter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 19, 2010 8:33 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I'm pleased
the Brewers ended up with Grienke. Another elite pitcher headed to the NL. Looks like a trend:
Santana, Halladay, Lee, and now Grienke.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
FYI
for Lurkers who decide to make their first post. The F bomb is earned here, you can’t just throw it out in your first comment, especially if it is a stupid comment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wow
TBrownYahoo
Source: Dodgers were working on Greinke possibilities into weekend, had drawn in a third team to satisfy KC needs, ran out of time.
Interesting. I wonder who the 3rd team was.
by dodgers4life on Dec 19, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/19/1885335/zach-greinke-joins-the-national-league
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
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