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Russell Martin Decision Day


The one time apple of our eye is now in danger of being an ex-Dodger. Sometime today we will know if he remains with us or not. Russell Martin ended the year hurt, so the Dodgers are in a tough position. If healthy will he be productive enough to warrant the salary he might command in arbitration? Are there better alternatives for less money? Can that money be spent elsewhere in the lineup? Is he even healthy?If healthy now, can he remain healthy? Did the 2nd half surge of AJ Ellis turn the Dodger eyes? Bill James projects that Ellis could have an wOBA of .322 compared to Martins .337.  Is that difference worth 4 Million?

Other possible options if the Dodgers part ways with Martin:

Jason Varitek , AJ PierzynskiRod BarajasGregg Zaun, Miguel Olivo with possibly more being available after today's arbitration deadline.

I'm of the opinion we came this far with these guys, I want one more year with them, so I'm inclined to offer arbitration to both Martin and Loney. I'd rather not offer Martin a lower two year deal, I want him hungry this summer. Martin has been my biggest disappointment because he created such expectations for me. For me he was everything I wanted in a baseball player.

Patience, power, speed, defense, and fun to watch. Nows he's simply patient and everything else seems to be gone, however I'm a firm believer that once you display a skill you own that skill, so Martin can bounce back, and I'd like to see him be given the chance one more time in Dodger blue. What about you?

FWIIW Eric is projecting the Martin arbitration figure at $4.5 Million. Eric is usually close on these estimates.

Update: To be clear, Eric feels that Martin would make $6 Million in arbitration, his 4.5 Million is what he expects Martin to sign for if he signs a contract before the deadline. Sorry for the confusion.

Options:

1. Non-Tender Martin making him a free agent eligible to negotiate with any team.

2. Tender Martin then hope to come to an agreement between now and his arbitration date. He would remain a Dodger in 2011.

3. Come to an agreement today before they have to make the tender/non tender decision.

4. Trade Martin like they just traded Theriot

I'm going to put up a poll, what do you expect them to do?

Poll
What will the Dodgers do today regarding Russell Martin and his future with the team?
Dodgers will Tender Martin
187 votes
Dodgers will Non-Tender Martin
306 votes
Dodgers will come to a contract agreement before the tender deadline
304 votes
Dodgers will trade Martin before the tender deadline
138 votes

935 votes | Poll has closed

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I really want Martin back

Once more into the fray, as they say.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

I'm aware how horrible a use

of that phrase that was.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

When in Rome.

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Words, words, words.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew that

once upon a time

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

>> Eric is projecting the Martin arbitration figure at $4.5 Million
 
I thought it’s really rare for arbitration to lower a player’s salary… no? (His was $5,050,000 this past season.)

by nsxtasy on Dec 2, 2010 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

I believe if they offer and he accepts, they can offer a minimum salary 20% lower than what he made last year.

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

80% of $5,050,000 is $4,040,000. So, the $.5 would be somewhere in between what they could offer and his last salary. No matter how he came across his last salary (arbitration or agreement), that is used as the starting point for arbitration.

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

$.5 should be $4.5

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe the 5.05 mil

was not an arbitration number, but a contract they offered to avoid arb, which might affect the process?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I projected that because I don’t think Martin is getting tendered, but will re-sign.. If he gets tendered Martin can easily get $6 million.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry for the misrepresentation

I’ve updated the story to include your $6 Million arbitration number as opposed to the $4.5 contract you think he’ll sign if they do something before the deadline.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, Dioner Navarro went from All Star to an OPS in the .500s, and he didn’t get a pay decrease. If Navarro didn’t, Martin won’t either.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like them

to keep Martin one year, but I have a feeling they will non – tender him because of the other catching options available, and the uncertainty of his health. I expect the Dodgers are trying to sign him right now to a lower contract, Martin has to decide if he is non – tendered can he do better then the Dodger offer on the free market. I expect he will think he can and turn down the Dodger overtures for a contract, thus the Dodgers will non – tender him, thus we will not see Martin in 2011.

I hope I’m wrong.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

Keep Martin

I am dissapointed with Martin the last 2 seasons but I really enjoyed him the first 2 seasons. I hope he can turn things around. I would keep him 1 more year and if he continues to struggle or show no signs of improvement he will have spent his last days in blue.

I might feel different if we had a up and coming prospect or Barajas was the answer. I just don’t see anybody who sticks out in that position.

I’ve really wanted to see this young core develop into a team that could compete for a world series for a long time. They did that in 08 and 09. Hopefully last year was just an off year.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

Loney

I’m better with tendering him. Maybe the second half was an aberration. Martin has been in decline a while. If Sands gets hot in AA/AAA,and Loney continues to be non-productive trade him in June and promote Sands.

by preacher roe on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 AM PST reply actions  

I think the uncertainty is too much and they non-tender him.

I also loved what Martin used to be able to do but it seems like he has tried different offseason approaches to get that back and he hasn’t been able to. At this point I am ready to at least give part of the catching responsibilities to Ellis.

by OB12 on Dec 2, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

I voted for non-tender. This is not what I think should happen, but will happen.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

I voted the same

and also feel the same way.

by TomasC on Dec 2, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

If it were up to me

I would just tender Martin if they can’t work out a deal, because I don’t like the alternatives.

It seems weird to say “sure, Juan Uribe is worth $7 million a year,” and then turn around and say, sorry Russ.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 9:08 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Good point on the money

but if we get the Martin of 2010, I don’t see any of the alternatives being worse then that, and they all would come substantially cheaper then the $6 you think he’d earn in arbitration. Also Uribe was not coming off a season ending injury so the question of health remains large.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope he's non-tendered and signs with the Rockies for $4.5mil

Solves backup catcher and perhaps even reserve 3B issues

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

If there’s one thing Jim Tracy is good at, it’s putting catchers at all sorts of bizarre places on the diamond.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

What is up with the Berkman talk

can you explain how anyone thinks he can play the outfield at Coors? Or that he’s even better then what you have?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Renck's recent tweet:
Understand, Rockies are prepared to sacrifice some defense for offense to enhance the lineup.

Beyond Tulo and Cargo, the next best wOBA’s on the team were 5th OF Ryan Spilborghs, Melvin Mora and Jason Giambi. There is a feeling that the offense really needs something added.

I don’t agree with it. Berkman would be Hawpe in the OF and a poor platoon partner for Helton (horrible RH swing)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I had not even thought of lance playing 1B anymore.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be the main point

Rox need a backup for Helton, who won’t start more than 110 games

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Then I'd love for you to use

the bad side of Berkman in that role.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why I, and most of PR, don't like the idea too much

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd be comfortable

putting him on the hot corner for anything other than an extreme emergency. Plus, isn’t $4.5 mil a lot to pay for a backup C after a season-ending injury?

by TomasC on Dec 2, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I should also add

I love and think the world of Russell, and I want to see him in Dodger blue for at least one more year: just calling it as I see it.

by TomasC on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends on how he returns from the injury

He’d also act as insurance for Iannetta if he disappoints again, and a 2.0 WAR catcher in 400 PA is probably worth that if he’s healthy

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you really want to give Tracy an excuse to bench Ianetta?

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really

But I AM scared of McKenry being the only backup

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 2, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure but 400 PA is not a back up catcher

that is a starting catcher since the other catcher would have much less at bats.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Even without the injury, I’m pretty confident the Martin of old was never going to come back. But a catcher with a .350 obp is still pretty valuable, so I’d bring him back. But the injury puts him in somewhat uncharted waters, so I’m not sure. Clearly a tough decision for Ned. I would tender him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they think there are better FA options.

by guy clinch on Dec 2, 2010 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed still valuable, but I’m pretty sure there are better FA options out there at a cheaper price.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

See I think Ellis will be able to put up a pretty decent OBP at the min. He will have zero power, but Martin doesn’t really have much power these days anyways.

by OB12 on Dec 2, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

They should give Russell Martin a contract because he is not Rod Barajas.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

Exactly what I'm thinking

I don’t see too many enticing FA catchers out there, though the idea of getting Varitek to share time with Martin is appealing to me. Don’t know if they want to spend that much though. Martin knows the staff, I think he can come back and be a pretty good catcher next year. A Martin/Ellis platoon (assuming they can’t bring Rod back as a backup) isn’t too bad.

But If they don’t tender him, but still want to bring him back as a free agent it would of course be because of doubts about his health, wanting to see more in a month, which I would understand.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Should do a story on this

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/12/01/shulman-hershiser-valentine-give-espns-sunday-night-baseball/

has me excited to watch Sunday Night baseball for the first time in a long time. I’ve heard Valentine on the radio broadcasts and I like him. I’m sure the more I hear him the more tired we will get of him, but in the beginning this is exciting.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

Morgan and Hershiser had a few awkward moments. This is a much better group I think.

by guy clinch on Dec 2, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

ESPN sucking their own dicks
Sometimes, the challenge in this industry is to give fans what they want before they know what they want

Are you kidding me? People have wanted Morgan fired for years.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

a significantly large number of people

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

there may

have been a site about it…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I still don’t know that I want ESPN First Take. When does enlightenment come?

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

With meditation and fasting

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

ESPN is good at that

self-promotion. I think it’s telling that a lot of “talent” has left over the years, probably because that place is so bunker-like and Disneyfied.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Hah, I just saw Theriot's quote after he was traded to St Louis

if you missed it, “I feel like i’m finally on the right side of the Cubs-Cardinals rivalry.”

That’ll go down well at Wrigley Field. He probably meant, he’s finally with the team that wins more often, but still.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

Also

seems like the Cardinals are planning on making him their starting SS not 2nd baseman.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, so he also meant right side of the infield?

;-)

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

So what are they doing with Brendan Ryan?

Im mean, he’s terrible, but would be a good backup/Utility guy.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought he was a wizard with the glove

but the metrics don’t back that up. Still SS position is so bad offensively these days that he was only as bad as many others.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha.

I think he’s a little worse version of Jamey Gamer

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Fangraphs has him at +22 over the last two years. B-Ref has +33

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

What do they have his moustache and High Socks at?

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So it must have been the fielding bible

that did not show him in right light or article I read was simply full of shit.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Supposedly trying to move him.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Theriot is also whining that he doesn’t want to be a bench player.

It’s fine to think that but to say it in the media gets on my last nerve. Good riddance.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

If he were better at baseball, he’d have nothing to worry about.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

If there was a chance Skip Schumaker would be taking swings from me, I’d be pissed too.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Skip is the opposite of solid

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought liquid

was the opposite of solid, not skip. Skip is the opposite of “run like Refrigerator Perry.”

by TomasC on Dec 2, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

And does he have a hot wife and hot sister? I think not!

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

he said, I can’t help the team if I am not playing everyday. Which of course he could help any team by them not having to play him everyday

by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The lousy players never seem to understand that

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

I think they offer Russ a short-term contract with incentives, he signs it, and then Ned signs Barajas as insurance. The loyalty to Loney points to this. If the alternatives are Pierzynski or Varitek, geez, might as well find out what Piazza will take too.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

I think they make the offer

the question is if Martin signs it or not. I don’t think he will.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Per yesterday’s post, I see the Pads non-tendered Hairston. If that’s old news, I’ll duck under my desk.

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

(rubber bands flying……..)

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Dang, there are a lot of cobwebs down here, and …OWWW!!!

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

watch your head LBB

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s this? “James Loney’s Missing Power….”

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by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

mind bringing that up with you?

we’ve been looking for it :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It was not an official tweet from the Padres

so I did not post it. I saw it on MLBTR but the tweet was only from “follow the padres” which would be like me tweeting something before it became official.

But it does sound like both Gwynn and Hairston will be non – tendered. As Reg said you could go with a defensive 1st outfield against RHP with Gywnn in CF, and then an offensive outfield with Hairston in CF against LHP if one was to desire to use the ex – Padres in CF.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

So what is the Padres OF now?

Maybin, Denorfia and WhoAmIForgetting?

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Ludwick

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah right

Huh. Hm.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

and that Kyle Blanks guy

if he’s healthy and they haven’t traded A-gon

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Him or Cunningham.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Also don't they still have Venerable?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Him too. Man they’ve got a lot of outfielders.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah I listed him above in my initial Q, but man, didn't remember

how many other guys they have. Not sure how many of them are any good, mind you, but the starting 3 could be pretty decent at least.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you mean "The Human Air Conditioner"?

Strikes out about 1/3 of the time

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

And the rookie dude

who missed most of the year to injury – Kyle Blanks

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re pretty high on Blanks, no?

Not like Lambo high, but pretty high..

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

They were

but he sucked like Paul before he got hurt.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I heard in 09

they were figuring him to be the 1B after A-gon was traded

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

you should have said IDon'tKnow

THIRD BASE!!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Refresh

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting

This is the cue which says there was a deletion. Like in DT when a number was missing in a sequence.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta get up early in the morning to get one over on Michael White….

What color shirt do you want?

White, Red, Grey

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose i could ask you the same question with the same options (and blue I suppose)

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I’m on my own….

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Is mintxcore somewhere

making Martin Decision day Cinnamon rolls?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

Little crouching gingerbread men

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s got someone doing it for him…

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s subbing today!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Poor kids….

Getting constant ridicule from the sub!

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife said he was cute last night.

ugh

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

That was a good picture

but I think the Ladies brought out the best in him

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I told her he was the resident snob….she didn’t care.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

should have gone for the killshot

“unemployed”

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm

That might’ve worked!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This is tough, but I would have offered him a figure like Eric said of $4.5m and stick with it. If he says no then find some other option. The thought that we could be paying Martin and Loney $10 million next year combined is a little depressing.

by Mike Dennis on Dec 2, 2010 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

A healthy Russ at least has value behind the plate.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I know. Im just joshin.

I like Russ. I hope he is our catcher next year.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

25

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was more fun when the

combo was less then a Million and they both kicked ass.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they’ll have a break out year, they may combo up for 14 home runs. 9 of those being Loney’s.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think if we have a year that has Loney with 500+ PA’s and Martin has 400+ PA’s

They will hit over 30HR’s between them.

/ducks

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Optimists

we has them

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

(more rubber bands flying……)

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe that is where I'm mis reading the value of Gordon

with the post steriod/greenie toll being taken offensively by shortstops, you don’t have to have much of an offensive game to be a plus player these days.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

Regression offensively at one position as a whole seems fine with me.

Makes scouting and drafting easier.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

already happening at 3B and SS

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

2nd to thus the 7 Million for Uribe

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

SS was my thought. Along with Phil’s post.

Seems like there are a few more light hitting, slick fielding SS playing now vs 10 years ago when that position turned into your #3 or #5/6 hitter

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

*cough* steroids? *cough*

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

But you still gotta play defense. He can hit like Juan Pierre at short stop and be valuable as long as he’s a plus defender.

by Mike Dennis on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

He still has to prove he can do it with the glove

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he has any kids, so I’m asuming he is still good with the glove.

George Lazenby is James Bond!

by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

I remember

when I thought Russell was going to be our next great catcher…athleticism, speed, 15-20 HR power, Canadian moxie…he and McCann looked to be the standard bearers for the NL for a long time, so it’s a pity it has come to this…but I would keep him one more year and hope that he is motivated to capture some of the old flame. I think they’ll work out a deal cos I think he wants to stay in LA.

Barajas and Ellis couldn’t throw out my grandmother last year, and she’s been dead for 15 years. Anybody know who are the best defensive options on the FA market…Olivo, Laird (though he can’t hit)?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

I thought someone posted some stats the other day that suggested that both Barajas and Ellis were good defensively outside of throwing out runners.

by OB12 on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

A movie for Ryan Theriot is on TCM right now

(the joys of working at home). Some obscure 1930s thing called Death on the Diamond about a murder among the St Louis Cards.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

KOTBLAN?

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

took me a mnute but I laughed too

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm very curious what KC

is going to do with Betemit

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

You’ve got a legit BOOM BOOM Betemit man crush

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

the poor man’s Uribe

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Stuff movies are made of

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101202/ap_en_mo/us_hollywood_publicist_killed

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

I haven’t seen Humma comment today. Hmmm….

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he had too much gin last night

by Mike Dennis on Dec 2, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

This whole story is just shocking to me. I mean, Ronni was sweet and kind — a bit nutty — I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact that she died this way. I simply cannot believe that she was mixed up in anything… I mean, Ronni!…. She is just about the last person…

I knew who she was, of course — she was big in our little corner of the industry — but we weren’t friends. But everyone has a Ronni Chasen story. She was well liked. I can’t find the words.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

It was setting up to be a great episode of Law and Order LA

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Oxymoron

“great episode of Law and Order LA”

But it is indeed perfect for the show, which only adds to how disturbing the whole event is.

by JonWeisman on Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Eric

Voted for agreement; if not, we should tender.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

This is interesting.
If Martin had played for another organization, like Kansas City for example, would you seek him out for a $4.5 Million contract today, given his performance over the past two years and his recent injury?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

The answer to that question, for me, is maybe.

I don’t deny that emotions play a role here, but I also have to say that for all the bitching about Martin’s poor play, we finally saw what a bad catcher looks like when he got hurt.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Barajas played good for the month he was here, but he’s likely to not do that well again.

Ellis is interesting. He got hot after seeing pitching for a while. I’d like for us to try Martin and Ellis again.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there will be a deal. Martin has a lot to prove and the Dodgers’ alternatives are not attractive. That is a recipe for let’s make a deal.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Barajas does throw a nice screwball towards 2B

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I am excited to see what happens to Martin

This is one of the rare times where I am not sure what I would do if I were the GM – the arguments raging inside my head right now are legendary. I wish I would just all get along

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

Joe! Long time, no see.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

so how was

the vaudeville show?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, exactly

In this case, there is almost nothing Ned can do where I won’t be able to see it from that perspective…but I can never count him out completely! :)

by sarcastro9 on Dec 2, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they will non-tender him

but I hope they will not. There is one thing that did return for Martin last year, and that was his throwing arm. I still hold out hope for the other stuff. Besides, everyone else who had their first real shot in ‘06 seems to be getting another shot next season, and I don’t see why Martin shouldn’t either. Ok, I see why, but I still think the reward outweighs the risk. And don’t forget the intangibles- he still has a way of irrationally pissing off Giant fans!

by sarcastro9 on Dec 2, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

i voted for deal before the deadline

I wouldn’t mind a platoon with and Veritek. Obviously if Martin comes back, he’s not gonna play as many games.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

Is that obvious? I think it’s probable, maybe even likely — but we have seen the “Russell Martin will play fewer games” story before.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

but now he’s coming off a big injury. That’s why I kicked it up a notch to Obvious.

BAM!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I think if we had a former catcher as our manager he would be more simpathetic to the demands of the position.

Oh, wait…

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

among the many surprises of Torre was him running Martin in to the ground.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Torre could not say no to him, but could easily say no to Kemp. So glad he is gone.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

Kemp had the 5th most starts in the OF in all of MLB from 2008-2010, Torre’s tenure with the Dodgers.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

you and your numbers

do not reflect the days that Kemp was benched.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

He was always benched after he sucked for a while

why was that a problem?

Oh, because Loney was never benched?

Why, we will never know

Or it could be because Belliard was the option

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Because in the grand scheme of things, those benchings were very rare.

I was angry at the time as well, but my panties are now unbunched.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t confuse me with the facts. My mind is already made up!

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

that is to say

You wouldn’t mind a platoon with the 2010 Veritek. But he’s at the age now where his performance could drop to that Main-Caller-Topic-Of-The-Night-On-Dodger-Talk level.

by sarcastro9 on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

well

they’re gonna bitch about something. :)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Jon

I still crack up that he came up as a SS. That photo shows how that was possible.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltre

Could be signing with the A’s “soon”, maybe even today, according to Stark.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

Beltre shouldn’t be wearing white shoes

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

God damn it

Qatar? The World Cup apparently is now humanitarian aid which can save the world

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Eh, their consistent at least. If they’d gone England/Qatar I’d cry foul. Might have to consider going to Brazil for the world cup in four years.

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t it more there’s a shit load of money in Qatar and the greater Qatar area?

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

floating stadiums rule

by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Stop listening to Busta Rhymes…..

Nothing good can come from it.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd just like to know how to pronounce the name of that country.

I had always thought it was kuh-TAR, and I said it that way for years.

Then I heard reporters on NPR calling it “Cutter,” and I’m like, OK.

Now I hear kuh-TAR again.

Help me.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

ˈkätär; kəˈtär

the problem with NPR is that it’s composed of white folks who think all black people should wear Dashiki’s and really embrace their cultlure

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Dots and upside down e’s? What language are you speaking?!?!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

And here I thought the problem with NPR was that it was filled with hipster know-it-alls who talk about how fascinating ordinary people are.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps the biggest problem with NPR, for me, is that everything else is worse.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought NPR was all Hitler-y

Or was I misinformed? ;-)

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

you’ve been watching Fox news again, haven’t you? I warned you about that : )

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

hah hah

I can’t stomach more then 5 seconds of it but read those stories about Ailes losing his mind. Got a mighty chortle out the ludicrousness and hypocrisy of it all.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

What sucks even more

is that Rock Band 3 has a Qatar (that is cool), but it is $80. Eff that.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

As someone who makes poorly thought out purchases, it’s worth every penny.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I say this fully knowing I will purchase it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

It seems a terrible decision

they are pretty repressive culture politically, and as someone else pointed out here, it is SUMMERTIME IN QATAR! I mean what the hell is FIFA thinking? Well, I know what they’re thinking, but screw ’em.

Russia might be interesting world cup though.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Russia’s pretty repressive too.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Repression -- they has it

Depression, too.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

True story:

I’m walking down the street in Moscow. Dude comes up to me and says, “Are you American? Are you American?” I nod. He shouts, “You ruined our country!” and runs off.

I woulda liked to have talked to the guy. There are a lot of countries that I could say, yeah, I see that. And maybe I could be convinced that Russia is one of those — I woulda liked to hear what he had to say.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, America is the worst.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course, I think they did a pretty good job of ruining their own country over the years

imho, and hey I’m 1/4 Russian so I’m allowed to dis ’em.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, that’s what I think, too. But maybe they see it differently.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The Russian media probably had a different spin on the Cold War than the Americans.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

gotta keep the totalitarian perspective …

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t doubt that. But since the Americans’ was, basically, about the “evil empire,” I’m not sure ours is a high horse here.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Get told America is evil your whole life, you probably blame America when the country collapses.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

um

to say nothing of our foreign policy over the last 40 years…yeah…we totally haven’t screwed anything up, shouldn’t be blamed for…anything…

/ducks

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"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m just trying not to start an America fight.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Can’t fight America because YOU WILL LOSE.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

my Russian born, Ireland living roommate in Berkeley last year told me she was hesitant to come to America for her year abroad, cause she was always told about how horrible America was

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

i have to laugh

in this one comic I read from Japan, a girl tells her friends how she wants to visit America after High School, to which all her friends say that she is gonna get shot. It’s to humorous affect.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

They probably make a big deal

when a tourist is shot here and it is has happened so it is not like they are making stuff up, but just like Fox they probably have no perspective.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it's because

Citizens are allowed here to own Guns, where in Japan, they are not.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the only first world country where you can own guns (at least for the most part). That’s why our violence is a joke around the world.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Canada is not a first world country

must be news to them, and their gun violence is nothing like ours.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

just leagalize the drugs
take the money out of it
maybe they’ll go back to knives, chains and baseball bats?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

When was the first drug

declared illegal in the US?

Seems like a 20th centrury thing.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

boom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_drug_prohibition

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

1914: The first recorded instance of the United States enacting a ban on the domestic distribution of drugs is the Harrison Narcotic Act3 of 1914. This act was presented and passed as a method of regulating the production and distribution of opiate-containing substances under the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution, but a section of the act was later interpreted by law enforcement officials for the purpose of prosecuting doctors who prescribe opiates to addicts.

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

as I understand it, this law came after cocaine was already being used for toothaches and heroin was prescribed as a painkiller. When the regulation came about, it sort of just blanketed everything

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I present just the facts
1906:The Pure Food and Drug Act requires that certain specified drugs, including alcohol, cocaine, heroin, morphine, and cannabis, be accurately labeled with contents and dosage. Previously many drugs had been sold as patent medicines with secret ingredients or misleading labels. Cocaine, heroin, cannabis, and other such drugs continued to be legally available without prescription as long as they were labeled. It is estimated that sale of patent medicines containing opiates decreased by 33% after labeling was mandated.1

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

hurray war on drugs!

hurray war on drugs!

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

war on drugs

is a war on people

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

February 22 1980, Lake Placid

the Day America destroyed the USSR. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You don’t know how lucky you are boy
Back in the USSR …

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm wondering

if maybe he equates America with Captialism and equates that with what ruined his country.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Right here in River City.
Trouble with a capital “T”
And that rhymes with “P” and that stands for pool!

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The Music Man

/embarrased I know this

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No need to be

Everyone knows The Music Man is the only acceptable musical for men to know and love.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Vin Scully loves The Music Man

you need not be ashamed.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lion King

was awesome

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by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I love a lot of musicals, and I especially love The Music Man, but Winthrop Paroo is the single most annoying character in the history of muiscal theater.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

But I do love The Music Man.

I hope, and I pray, for Hester to win just one more A
The sadder-but-wiser girl for me!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Monorail!

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s that word?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

say it again!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Monorail!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Mono--

D’OH!!

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He left River City the library building
But he left all the books to her!

Chaucer!
Rabelais!
Balzac!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

but he doesn’t know his territory?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?
Whad’ya talk?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

And when the man dances
Certainly boys
What else?
The piper pays him!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

neo-liberalist economic policy is the problem

and it knows no national allegiance

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Been There, Been Depressed

Only place more depressing than Russia in the eighties was Bulgaria in the eighties. Must remember to thank my former boss for the joy of visiting both counties after I got divorced.

by dangerisland on Dec 2, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It's more corrupt than repressive though, get it straight! ;-)

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

If I get a Blake Griffin jersey during the holidays, would that be considered bandwagon-ish (since I’ve never really followed the Clippers in the past)?

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

He's a rookie

Still in the ground floor stage IMO

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Who cares? Get the Jersey, Griffin is the real deal.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 2, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, it’s been a while since the Lakers have had a star. You guys are due.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Since the Clippers marketing strategy seems to be

is to sit and wait til people jump on their bandwagon, I’d say it’s fitting

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Spoken from someone who

knows nothing about the Clippers and has shown that ignorance from the day she showed up. It would be like me trying to say something about Galaxy marketing strategy.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah pretty much, you’ve gotta consider the source Michael

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe Donald Sterling made a full page ad with terrible graphic design sense about this.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Not everyone

for those who simply ignored them I have no problem, for those you used them for their jokes for 20 years I say forgettaboutit.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I had season tickets for one year

and have a Clippers t-shirt and hat.

Can I hop on the Griffin appreciation train?

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

As a Laker “fan” who has felt his enthusiasm for the team gradually diminish (as they win multiple championships, weird of me, I know) I find myself more and more interested in the Clips. I don’t think I can be a fan of a Sterling run enterprise, but Gordon and Griffin make them almost a much watch for me.

by guy clinch on Dec 2, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Your a Dodger fan

where championships haven’t happened in 22 years, how is that a criteria for being a fan?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea how your reaction relates to my devils advocating

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

The SBNation clipper blog writer joked the other day that the Clippers are everybody’s favorite team to watch play. They are exciting and young and high energy, but they end up losing to your team in the end.

I’m hoping that last part changes of course.

Just to throw out some trends, Clips have now won 3 of their last 5 and have a roadtip coming up where they can win 2 of the first 3. Of the Clippers wins, 2 came agains tthe team which had the best record in the NBA (San Antonio and New Orleans) and another is OKC. As they get healthy, they can certainly start playing .500 basketball.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

The SBNation clipper blog writer joked the other day that the Clippers are everybody’s favorite team to watch play. They are exciting and young and high energy, but they end up losing to your team in the end.

Never thought of it that way.

Anyway next Wednesday the Lakers play the Clips, should be fun for first time since Sammy left us assuming Blake is not hurt before then.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

As a fan of the Lakers and Dodgers, seeing the Dodgers struggle makes me appreciate what the Lakers have done over the past decade. You have to enjoy the championships while you can. Who knows what will happen in the future.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Michael’s getting me one!

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Martin holds no cards today

Martin is overvalued at anything beyond $4mil given the catchers still on the market and the deal Torrealba signed in Texas(2yrs/$6.25mil).
Sign a contract or non-tender him and negotiate later.
What has Ned to lose?

by megaballs on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

John Buck signed for $18 million over three years.

All it takes is one team.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Ending up with Rod Barajas if Russ takes off.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s takiNg so long?

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

How did you capitalize that N in takiNg? I presume it was an accident?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about Ms. Ng

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this

I would offer the $4+ million and tell him take it or leave it. We always have Hector Gimenez FTW!

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

In Russia, Hector Gimenez has you!

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh jeez...

all the more reason to not risk losing him ;-)

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

lol photo caption

Is it supposed to be a joke?

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

just hit a hot grounder to 3B

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Old News my friend
For Meercat
The Toy Cannon looks back
 http://es.pn/gIBICh
by JonWeisman on Dec 2, 2010 10:43 AM PST reply actions

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh My God

Build a Bear has talking Rudolph plushes from the claymation Rudolph special. It’s voice responsive, so if you say “you’re cute” he says the line “I’m cute! She thinks I’m cute!”

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

I just recorded that for my five year old. I’m not sure if I’ll show it to him. It has Burl Ives and is classic claymation, but it also has a kinda scary Yeti. Thoughts?

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

he's 5

watch it with him and he’ll be fine.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah I remember being that age when I first watched it. Watching it with his dad, he’ll try and big a big brave boy I recon

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t advise, but as long as we’re on the subject, I’m wondering if I should show Toy Story 3 to Spawn. She likes the first two. The plot of the third is very complicated — that’s OK, I can explain it — but there’s a lot of peril in it, too. Not sure how she’d handle the creepy Big Baby, the creepy monkey, the inferno at the garbage dump…

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I know you think we know everything about the Kavula family

but some of his actually have no idea of the age of Spawn.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

She just recently turned three.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

for what it’s worth my just turned 3 year old can’t wait to see his first movie, Yogi Bear

by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Make it Yogi’s First Christmas, and you have a deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

i had the tape

of that.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

but is it in…….3D! Mine can’t sit thru 23 min of wow wow wuzby at home, how and the hell is he gonna sit in a movie theater is beyond me.

by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

are you gonna go see the live action Yogi? Dan Ackroid is Yogi!

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

The last good thing Dan Akroyd was in was We Are The World.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

was that before or after spies like us?

by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Aykroyd is spelled Aykroyd.

Y before K which comes after A.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a weird name. Awkward even.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

People here constantly mix up there and their. Probably on purpose. I don’t think anyone here gives a shit about how to spell Aykroyd.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d post a picture of a rat’s ass, but my search engine is blocking it as NSFW.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just coming up with creative ways to express my annoyance at the constant their/there mix-ups here

I generally approve of attempting to spell things correctly. Since a rat’s ass probably is NSFW, I’ll post a picture of something that must evoke similar emotions for you.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You know what sucks?

I totally had Cheez-Its in my car last Friday night and forgot to bring them inside to karaoke night.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

thank the good lord….and the bad one too

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Aww

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

If you’re gonna eat something with that much fat, eat real cheese. That’s what I do.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

anyone see the Colbert Cheese head

he got Tuesday Night from the SOA

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I try to throw you a bone and you still get on the high horse?

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a sad.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm out of my league on this one

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

At the very least, these movies are intended to be family movies. I think the emphasis is on family, these aren’t movies to sit your kid in front of the TV with, but to watch together. Be prepared to give a big humma hug if she does get scared but, kids get scared

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

FTW

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, yeah, but here’s another side to it:

She doesn’t know about death yet and, frankly, she doesn’t need to know yet. She likes — loves! — Finding Nemo, but we start it five minutes in…. AFTER the mother and all the eggs die. There’s just no reason to introduce her to that topic through a movie.

That’s why the movie is rated PG. We think of PG movies as being fairly harmless, and they are, but three years old is still very young.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

empathise?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

hammertime

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

nope, you’re completely butchering what I meant. I want to say that I emphasize my understanding, having held a different position before

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

sorry

i thought you meant you were showing empathy.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

funny

you don’t look like a ginger

(kidding my red haired friends)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

You're a cat?!

(ducks)

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

SPOILER

That makes a lot of sense.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Note to self

Cancel gift of “Old Yeller” for Spawn of Humma this year.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I recommend skipping the first 20-30 minutes of “Saving Private Ryan” too.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

or Beaches

not because of death, but because it’s fucking terrible :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s like the “Are you single?” joke :)

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Strangely, Spawn’s favorite movie is “The Exorcist.” I don’t get kids sometimes.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

wa?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I am guessing I deadpanned this joke a little too much.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I figured you where joking

which was why I didn’t take the Tommy aproach

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

i've known kids like that

far be it from me not to take Humma at his word :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

might

want to check off Bambi too.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

y’know, I don’t remember being taught about death. I must’ve been really young.

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

you didn't

play guns or swords with your brothers?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

your stalker powers are fading, I only have one brother

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

my powers are all talk

did he not at some point in your tomfoolery, “kill” you?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember being told of my Grandpa's death

(He died when I was two)

and I kept asking who murdered him, because I didn’t know of another way to die.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It was Santa, right?

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It was my grandpa’s fault for putting his head in the fireplace to look up the chimney when he heard that noise from the roof.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Your funny

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

My three year old niece knows what a “pagina” and a penis is.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Set her up with a user name. She’ll fit right in!

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

My daughter used to tell people she was a boy.

My wife taught her the same shit.

It’s pretty freakin funny when my daughter is being asked questions by someone and she tells them out of

the blue “I have a vagina.”

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I can add to this

when William was three his parents would not let him watch Monsters saying it was to scary. I kept at them and eventually we watched it together. With kids once they like something they watch it every day. It became his favorite movie and I think he watched it everyday for the rest of his life.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Monsters Inc? With john Goodman?

I freakin love that movie

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, we skip that part too every Saturday morning

by robotmadeofnails on Dec 2, 2010 12:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

If your five year old cannot handle

Rudolf, then……….

To me that is exactly the show you want to watch with your five year old. Then when you give them broken presents for Xmas you can tell them Santa dropped the misfit island just for them.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

this shouldn't be funny

but it is.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I used The Island of Misfit toys in a paper recently, it was a good paper

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

As someone with no kids (but 13 nieces and nephews) I think 5 is plenty old enough to watch Rudolph.

Sure Santa is a downright dick and there are probably racial overtones, but it’s still a classic and generally not scary. I probably first saw it at 3, and look how I tu…never mind that last part.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I never miss it

maybe my favorite christmas show ever.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched it last year

for probably the first time in 15 years, and it was awesome. I forgot a lot of stuff (like Santa being a dick, for instance), but it was great. I then got the DVD with some other classics for Christmas last year. Love them.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Watched it with Mrs the other night

Santa being a dick surprises me just about everytime.

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Simple enough

anyone under 10 who did not like Rudolf and the lessons learned should be able to become 11.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

what a fail "NOT"

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew what you meant.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

What is the lesson? Being different is okay?

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That is Santa is a dick

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Got it.

while we’re at it, I’ve never liked the extended World War Ace part of “Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.” Always felt it ground the highly entertaining proceedings to a halt. Favorite line from that is one of the young trick-or-treaters saying, “I don’t want to be part of a rumble!”

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Best Charlie Brown special is the animated version of the musical show You’re a Good Man Charlie Brown.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

We’ll watch it. I’m more offended by the ads than anything else. Thank god for Skip.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Rudolph

I literally just received an email from a dude with the last name of Ives.

That’s a sign.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking the other night while watching it that Santa has a big f’n attitude.

by OB12 on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the feedback btw. Thought it would get some reaction. I’m trying to raise a critical consumer here.

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t give two shits about basketball, or college football either. Or soccer. So at least I can skim all those comments. My basketball rooting interest is I’d rather see a team from LA win, and well since the Lakers are the only one with a chance I go with them.

by Mike Dennis on Dec 2, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions  

That’s why Z is the best thing ever.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That hyperbole was warranted. Nothing else would’ve sufficed :)

by kinbote on Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Great, the two college football games with national title meaning are on at the same time.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

I totally would have tripled that.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have deglazed the shit out of that.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I was crying laughing so hard.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was two weeks ago, the Food Network / Shake Weight one.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Creme Fraiche!

I have been asking for an “Old Fashioned” on a daily basis since we watched the show.

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Old Fashioned's

are the best. But it’s hard to find a bar that does them right. but the last one I ordered was at a steakhouse in Vegas. They muddled it in front of me, used good bourbon. It was sublime. As was the next one.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

having just gone and watched the episode in question, this is the funniest thing I"ve ever read

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I can do a pretty good Cartman voice.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric, will you be paying this by debit or credit? :)

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

with a wink and a smile.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Does seem like a good low risk deal

though I have to crack up at Giants fans on MLBTR (most of their comments are about how awesome everything is, can’t blame them since they just came off the WS, but they’re almost always like that).

gornie
full season of burrell, call me crazy but i want 25-35 dingers in 2011, and a ton of walks. and i really think there’s a good chance i’ll get what i want in this case.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

he might hit 25-35 singles next year

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking he would ground out to SS/3B 25-35 times a month.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Might play 25-35 singles into extra base hits, I am thinking.

by dangerisland on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The OF who wouldn't die

Per Jon Heyman, Jason Repko has re-signed with Minnesota for $600,000.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

For a lousy player, he’s made some money. Probably more than I’ll ever see.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Reached for comment, Repko said, “Yeah, I don’t know why I’m not out of baseball, either, but the Twins have money to burn and I have a lighter.”

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Repko also added
and Mauer and me play far away from each other, so i can’t hurt him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Also
Oh yeah, sorry about that whole Morneau concussion thing.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Do the Twins really have nobody in their system who can put up a wOBA of .304 ?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The Twins and I have been unable to agree to terms.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

That exact quote has been said by IVdown on many, many weekends.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Why don’t you guys lay off the kid?

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

because

he likes the attention?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Quit hatin cause you didn’t think of it

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

for some reason this sentence reads as pornographic to me

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The reason is boobies

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

More difficult to be John Lindsey?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Much, much more difficult than it is to post comments and hit the “Z” button.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Brad Penny is on twitter

@BradPenny

Let the hilarity begin

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

@BradPenny: What’s this, I thought you said do you want a twinkie?

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Tweet me Brad! Tweet me!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a fan of Dancing With The Stars

but Brad went from Child Star/Syndication Siren actress, to Teen Actress/TV and Movies actress, to reality show dancer.

All dark-haired beauties, he finally got engaged to Ukranian born dancer

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

weak like Ukraine?

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

he'll start off strong but fade by the end

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You think he sweats when he tweets?

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

One hand to type, one hand to run his fingers through his hair.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not all that revelatory but...

RT @jonmorosi: How are the #Dodgers spending so much money, in the middle of the divorce trial? Answer here: http://bit.ly/bsPqGk #LA #MLB

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Haha nice

They’re putting together a team on the Layaway Plan. Though maybe that’s what went wrong with the McCourts. {ohnohedidnt]

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard about the Ralph Lawler stuck in traffic thing

and just figured he would be late to last night’s game. What I didn’t know is that he lives in La Quinta (near Palm Springs), and that the traffic jam was well over 6 hours! Craziness.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

I would kill myself

my god that would be a fucking nightmare

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

A few years ago I thought I saw Ralph driving around Pasadena, so I always assumed that’s where he lived.

No Ralph was brutal. I wish they could have pulled in the radio guy to do the game.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I interviewed him 10 years ago

then he was living in Laguna Niguel, so I guess he moved…or he has more than one place. Nice guy though.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

New blog post from Josh Rawitch

at Dodgers.com:

It’s decision day on a few Dodger players, most notably Russell Martin, and Ned Colletti just told Jim Hill in an interview that this is one of the toughest decisions he’s had to face since he came to the Dodgers. We’ll know by 9 p.m. PT tonight at the latest what that decision is and hopefully that will provide a little more clarity on the catching situation.

Probably just speculation on my part, but that to me sounds like Russ is getting non-tendered.

Also, a nice anecdote about Ned and the Bison having a phone conversation and are now besties.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

I agree. Sounds like PR man at work before a break-up.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i wonder

when that interview will be on

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Tonight “and all week” per the Dodgers

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

meant more like

specific time.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I would guess on both the KCAL news and CBS news, and probably again on Sports Central this weekend.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, this sounds like a non-tender.

by OB12 on Dec 2, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I promised I wouldn't cry...

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Weird to be

contemplating the end of the Russell Martin Era. Fuck

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This sucks.

I thought 3 years ago he might be in my Top 10 favorite Dodgers…..

This sucks.

AJ Ellis!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude….

Russ is fuckin toast.

Time to trade for Mauer and Morneau…

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

In fairness, it is a tough decision. That’s a lot of money for an guy who may not be able to come back. I’m trying not to read more into it.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah and there's still a chance they re sign him anyway, no?

Of course now anyone will be able to sign him. Sigh.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

do you think the 9pm time

means they’re trying to work a trade? Or is that just the deadline anyway?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the deadline

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned and Matt are having a bromance now?

What next, sending each other T-shirts? :)

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No way they are that cool.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d consider sending you a shirt too!

I’m gonna get Michael one because of his hatred for the SEC.

so he needs a shirt representing the Conference.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

it is now just an orange mug. the paint of the gator washed off a couple years ago.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If i had a dollar for every Dew i drank from that cup. I hope OBC has just one more game left in him to coach em up.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Im so sick of the whole thing, I almost wish Auburn would lose so Oregon could hang 70 on TCU in the NC game.

It would send us to a shittier bowl though….

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oregon will hang 70 on Auburn too. They just might give up 85.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If Auburn and Oregon both loses

who would face TCU?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be crazy.

Probably Auburn. Stanford is capped because they lost to Oregon. So really, you’d probably have either Oregon or Auburn play anyway. Depends the circumstances of the loss.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends

on where the writers end up ranking them I would think. Stanford was my first thought, which would be hilariously bad, since they lost to Oregon.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Auburn.

And MW will kill everyone at a Cracker Barrell….

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

remember when Ohio and Michigan where 1 and 2, and didn’t end up facing each other in the national championship game after Ohio beat Michigan?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I could make the argument. I think Wisconsin sucks, Stanford didn’t win their conference (then again neither would have Auburn) and South Carolina is better than Oregon State.

Of course, Oregon will have won their conference and lose a rivalry game to volatile team on the road (as opposed to Auburn losing at a neutral site.)

I love Cracker Barrel.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The cheese or the restaurant?

I love the former, have never been to the latter.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

STFU!

The restaurant is really good.

Eat breakfast there once.

You’ll be glad you did.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I have honestly never seen one. This must be like Sonic for us like 3 years ago. Just none close.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure there are any in southern California.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

There aren't

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I thought they were everywhere.

I take back the STFU

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Restaurant. I used to travel for work a lot in the southeast.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Cracker Barrel is bomb. Love the chicken fried chicken.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

if you are not in the championship, as a fan it really does not matter what bowl, as long as they go to one. IMO

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a BCS bowl is pretty sweet. Sellout the superdome against Ohio State, or the Motor City Bowl?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No shit…

No comp

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Boise St went from the Rose Bowl to the Humanitarian Bowl or the Feed the Hunger Bowl. I’d be pissed

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s between the Kraft (San Francsico) and Las Vegas Bowl against Utah.

/I’m not humorless, just giving out info

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

the Kraft bowl is officially called the Kraft Feed the Hunger Bowl. Didn’t know about the Vegas bowl

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding. Who’s the other team in that?

I know both Nevada and Boise are lobbying hard to play in the Kraft bowl as opposed to playing Utah in vegas.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Vegas playing Utah would be okay for them.

Does the Kraft bowl have an ACC tie in?

It seems like FSU was out there a couple of years ago

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

they had a hard time filling that bowl last few years

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Boise and Nevada fans are NOT interested in the Vegas bowl.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

that tie in has now passed to the WAC i believe cause the ACC didn’t wanna come to Frisco

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Except that enough Pac-10 won’t be bowl eligible, so it might be Boston College in the game.

That’s what I just read anyway.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Pac-10 now has 3 teams bowl eligible, and will likely only add one if Washington beats WSU.

Of course, two will be in the BCS so only the #2 & #3 bowls will be utilized. If OSU beats Oregon, the conference can get 5 bids.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

you have to understand

I am a UCLA fan. expectations are low

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You’d have a dollar for every Dew you drank from that cup if you never drank any Dew from that cup.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

the first 10 years i had that cup my mom was paying for the dew

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

didn't they have

Razorback hats or something with tusks when they had Todd Day and those 40 mins of Hell guys? I somehow remember Bill Clinton wearing one, or maybe that was Hillary.

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by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

That is what Michael is getting next year!

They are uber weak.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the 95 NCAA Championship was great.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as clean as the 94 NCAA Championship, but the thought is sweet.

Fuck the O’Bannon’s and Toby Bailey!

/cries at desk

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

the last time Ned made a tough decision

it was bye bye Dewitt, so…

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That wasn't tough

Dewitt doesn’t have veteran grit like Russ does.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

he called it a tough decision.

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well....

fine you win

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

How could there be just one?

try writing your favorite one great name and you will end up writing for an hour. I won’t fall into that trap

though Boog Powell, Rollie Fingers, Vida Blue, Rusty Staub, 3 fingers brown, Catfish Hunter…see?

by Hollywood Joe on Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Van Lingle Mungo.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Dick Pole

wait…

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

dick pound

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Dick Pound, he works for the IOC. I remember his wife was arrested during the Atlanta games.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

her name wouldn’t be ‘Kitty’?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Vida Blue

Sound too much like a stripper/pornostar name.

by Dr. Geek on Dec 2, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Homer Bailey?

/ducks

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

We won't be getting Varitek

both Gammons and Heyman say back to BOS. Gammons:

Jason Varitek close to returning to Boston for $2m plus $300,000 in incentives

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Heyman tweeted the deal is done

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Next –
Martin to Boston?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My guess would be Toronto or Milwaukee

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

going for the Martin/Varitek irony there :)

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Loney, Martin, and a pitching prospect for Fielder and hope that Sands is ready in 2012?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

that sounds ok to me

but i don’t think the brewers would do it. my guess is that they’ll want a major league tested pitcher for fielder

by court168627 on Dec 2, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

that's probably true

honestly though, I think if they don’t trade him this winter, they’ll probably just let him walk in FA. I don’t think they’ll get a better package then right now.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't know about that

some team desperate for a bat could give up a lot midway through the season. It happens all the time.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Teixeira

2X

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Kotchman doesn't count as a lot

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I love how I go to Yahoo Sports' main page

and the first thing I see in big print at the top of the screen says “Trending: Janice Dickinson”

>.>

by TomasC on Dec 2, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

I've got a Janice Dickinson story

I’ll have to tell one of these days. Don’t have the time now.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Do I need to send you my email address???

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

quite different

though I wouldn’t be surprised if she can blow smoke rings

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you had a 50/50 chance...

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw a woman in Thailand blow them from a spot due south of her mouth!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

heh
seen it the other way

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, the Janice Dickinson.

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm aware

but I’m glad the reference was picked up.

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

thursday night football is awesome!

no wait, whats the opposite of awesome?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

But your team is playing in the National Spotlight!

How could you not like this?

It’s the reason AJ didn’t get suspended.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

I had to start work at 8 o clock this morning so I could get off in time for the game. Horrible!

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, that reminded me to set my picks for the weekly pool.

Thanks.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Me reminding you just reminded me

thanks

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

My fantasy opponent has Vick, Maclin, and Akers going tonight.

ugh

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

We still have 1 week left in the regular season, and I’ve already been eliminated. Not my best showing.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m 1 game up with 2 to go.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

you be fucked

better hope Foster has a big game to keep them off the field.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

All this negativity is bringing me down!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well if it makes you feel better

Cushing looked fantastic last week, and GQ seems to be bouncing back, and Sharpton has thus far really helped out by replacing diles at WLB. K Jax might even be improving. Also, Mario Williams = beastmode.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

See that wasn’t hard!

Bad guy if I’m pulling for an injury to the Cesar Milan…..I mean Mike VIck?

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Just pray to Pollard

he has a tendency to hurt people

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't have the NFL Network

but I wasn’t going to watch tonight anyway. My eyes will be focused on Cleveland this evening.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing to see here….keep the line moving.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'ma watch that

I seriously hope no one does anything stupid. Use your words people….

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

Until Miami goes up 30 points in the first half.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

I’m prepared for both outcomes. Either way, should be a fun show.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

emosewa!

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah. Way too many points for an NFL game.

If anything, you just sit it out.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Super Nasty Charger Defense riding the hype of the nationally tv viewed destruction of Manning?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

GIve the points, it’ll be a route

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

a Stanford Routt. Just like the Fiesta Bowl.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the appropriate spelling for “route” in this context?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought is was Rot
Fight On!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Tru dat…

Sorry to disappoint you, Michael.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Raiders peaked too soon. SD peaking at the right time, as usual.

by Real DL on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Silverwidow

The opening 5 minutes of the radio show I listen to here in Arkansas had the host and his favorite in studio guest ripping one of the producers for eating a McRib.

It was swesoke

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

You know what? I don’t blame him.

During the period I was pimping the McRib on this board, they just started to get bad and boring. So yeah, done with them.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Had a Jack in the Box steak melt

yesterday. Now I usually loath Jack in the Box, but that sandwich was pretty tasty.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Downey is killing you already

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

next thing, I’ll be watching Dancing with the stars.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw about 5 minutes of that Sarah Palin show last night.

wish I had that 5 minutes back.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I could have sworn Arkansas

would be part of real America. I guess I was wrong.

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That show has to be the worst piece of propoganda......

I’ve ever seen. Thinly veiled political speech, with heart string tugs about “what America stands for” every five minutes.

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing veiled about it
No doubt about where she stands
Agree or disagree she isn’t vauge

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's advertised as a travelogue!

"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"

by iiidown on Dec 2, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, she’s not sitting at home and is she paying to do this or is she getting paid?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I will pray for you

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Just keep me away from Chilis, Chipotle, and Mimi’s Cafe

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

MiMi’s here is good for breakfast.

Lunch and Dinner are okay at best.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

really?

hm… You aren’t trying to trick us are you?

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

swesoke?!

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

A misspelling of a misspelling. It’s all the rage now.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

swesoke, so hot right now

swesoke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

at some point

we’re going to be typing sqedijw

and everyone is going to be HAHAHAHA SO TRUE
and new people are going to be like, “What?”

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be so sqedijw!

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

only the cool kids are doing it

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I like it, Keith. I like it.

"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."

by MR.F. on Dec 2, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Steve Dilbeck's blog post on Martin

at the LA Times, especially the closing lines:

Martin’s declining production at the plate and behind it, have made it easy for some to want him gone, but this might be a be-careful-what-you-wish-for scenario.

Productive, reliable catchers are hard to come by, and he’s still young enough to take a reasonable chance on. And defining reasonable is what they’re working on.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

"What they're working on"

meaning they’re still working on something? Maybe there’s still hope after all!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think both sides will work on a deal all day until they either come to a deal or run out of time/patience.

I do think a deal ends up getting done.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If Dilbeck is right, they’re just settling on figures and incentives.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Whee!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t consider Dilbeck a real reporter.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this McRib-related?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

does he only write stories for 6 weeks 2 x per year?

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get it, sorry.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll bite

Why don’t you consider Dilbeck a real reporter?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Bias reeks throughout everything he writes.

He’s not real journalist (like Dylan H) and I doubt he even has inside sources.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What I heard

You don’t agree with what he writes.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

All I’m saying is that there is, in my opinion, a delineation between what he does (editorials) and what Dylan does (actual news reporting).

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

Dylan is a beat writer for the Dodgers with all the access, Dilbeck is a blogger so they have different jobs. Saying Dilbeck is not a reporter is like saying I’m not a model even though I’ve never claimed to be a model.

Unless of course unbeknowest to me, Dilbeck is claiming to be a reporter.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

RIght

He’s always been a columnist, not a reporter. He was the Plashke of the Daily News I think for a pretty long time.

by LA Taco on Dec 2, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I always think of Dilbeck as Dilbert.

No slight at him, just can’t shake the name similarity.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy Dilbeck, he’s like Gurnick with a personality.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure he was not happy when

Dilbert became popular as were people with the bosses hairstyle. BTW if I let my hair grow I can so emulate the bosses hair style. I’ve also heard I’m as ignorant as he is.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh meercat, you're a model

I saw you modelling an electric bike.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

hee hee

I was distributed to 10,000 homes this last weekend. Not one person used the coupon. They have decided to use Erin next time.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But isn't that what Silverwidow is saying?

That he doesn’t consider Dilbeck as a reporter. No big deal.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying Dilbeck has no inside sources is ignorant. He has been covering baseball for somewhere around two decades, and will be the president of the Anaheim chapter of the BBWAA next year.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Dilbeck is also there for just about every home game. He’s far more reporter than your standard editorial types.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re saying he should report, and you should decide?

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

keithc13

I keep going back and forth on the Cam Newton thing, here’s what the NCAA should have done (totally unfair and unprecedented but a deterrent), the Saturday night, the 19th, announce that they are ruling Newton ineligible for the next 3 games and vacate all of Auburn’s wins.

Thus, you are able to set up LSU vs. Arkansas as the game to determine the SEC West title, Boise State or TCU would probably be No. 2 heading into last week’s games and Alabama could still have a shot at a BCS game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

That would have been unbelievably bold.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

They’d never do that

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but really to decide this week, what are you going do, I mean if you rule him ineligible for the next two games, you might as well vacate the other 12 games but then you have this conference championship game that Auburn would be in without their star player.

I just seems like they waited until this week to announce their decision since there was no alternative but to let Auburn go forward with him.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not wait until March?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think there is no way of determining guilt on Cam Newtons part. I’m sure he knew what was going on, but not sure if it can be proven.

I’m not sure if his Dad was ever paid anything. The accusations now are that he was pimping his kid to play, but the issue now as I understand it is that no one can find his Dad getting anything. I haven’t followed it closely enough though. LBB would be our resident expert on this. Im sure he doesn’t get to talk about it enough!

There is no way they would’ve ruled him ineligible and then find out he is innocent..

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Even soliciting a “pay for play” payment is against the rules which the NCAA has found he’s guilty of. They don’t need to prove the transaction happened, what they’ve already proven is plenty.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Then how has he not been ruled ineligble?

His Dad has admitted he did it.

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why everybody was stunned yesterday. They ruled him guilty, but didn’t punish him. It’s rather shocking.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s always about the money

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s kind of vague.

I assume you mean that suspending Newton would be against the NCAAs self interest, which is something I expected to be brought up. Is this really true though? People watch this shit anyway. I don’t really feel like Newton has star appeal (like Reggie Bush or Tebow did.) Some other team would be in the title game is all.

People like to say how Newton is worth so much money for Auburn, just look at their attendance! Except, Auburn pretty much sells out every game anyway.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

BH identifies the situation better than I did above.
The NCAA is inconsistent if nothing else.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Roger Goodel

doesn’t understand the problem

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

With Millions of dollars at stake in the playoff games, he just lets the Zebras fix things for him.

Holding!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

87,000 every game.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't think of a situation that came out during the season

like this. No. 1 or 2 team, best player in college football (calm down Andrew Luck fans), allegations of father soliciting payments to go to another school (a school where the kid by all accounts wanted to go to anyway) but then they turn to a higher profile team in the same conference (as a “business” decision).

I also think it is not impossible to think that the father could not have worked out a deal to get paid down the road, especially after Cam gets drafted and gets a signing bonus, no one will be watching as much and you could probably do something then.

Who knows.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

it looks like a fish
it smells like a fish
so …

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

She needs a shower???

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

True BLUE LA

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

blue balls and fishy vagina in the same thread. priceless!

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

it's so sqedijw

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

shhh

just let it happen

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesoke was just the tip.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

i need an adult!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

about 3-4 weeks ago on Rome

Jim asked him why he picked AUB over MSU. Without hesitation he called it a “Business move” rome brought up that part of the interview after the scandal broke and it was interesting to hear that after.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cam who?

What I know: the NCAA said yesterday it has no evidence that money ever changed hands, in Auburn or Starkville. Dad had a former MSU player/agent call a MSU booster to talk money. Dad didn’t want Cam at MSU (not a good platform for the NFL—bad for “business”). There was no deal, and the MSU athletic department called the NCAA as soon as they heard (they were already under investigation for paying a basketball player). No coaches involved, a la USC. The agent says he never spoke to Auburn. The key thing seems to be the assumption that Cam didn’t know until after the fact. Possible? I don’t know, but if the kid really got cash to come here, you think he could do better than his Vespa to get around town. Fair? Seems like a dangerous loophole to me. Then again, I was thinking about some things my dad pulled while I was in college—I didn’t know at the time, was sorry to find out later.

Bottom line, fun scenarios aside, he’s playing Saturday.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose South Carolina could win

and see if Auburn falls far down enough in the human polls to push TCU into the title game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

USC-E nearly won in Jordan-Hare, so it’s entirely possible that they win Saturday night. Auburn’s secondary is surprisingly bad for a number 1 team.

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Let the bidding war begin!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

How much will be required to sign him?
Thinking Olmedo who can still run around a little.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Heyman

says White Sox are close to a Dunn deal. (bad pun intended.)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Because we haven't talked enough soccer today
The Qatar national football team is the national team of Qatar and is controlled by the Qatar Football Association. They have never reached the FIFA World Cup finals

your 2022 host, never qualified for the WC

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

2022Round 1: Australia 1, Japan 3, South Korea 4, Qatar 11, USA 3 (Australia eliminated).
Round 2: Japan 2, South Korea 5, Qatar 10, USA 5 (Japan eliminated).
Round 3: South Korea 5, Qatar 11, USA 6 (South Korea eliminated).
Round 4: Qatar 14, USA 8 (Qatar wins).

2018 Round 1: England 2, Netherlands/Belgium 4, Spain/Portugal 7, Russia 9 (England eliminated).
Round 2: Netherlands/Belgium 2, Spain/Portugal 7, Russia 13 (Russia wins).

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

Qatar started with 11 votes, what a joke. This was more rigged than the BCS.

by Real DL on Dec 2, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Either you buy into the notion that the FIFA sees the WC as humanitarian aid and is on a mission to bring football to the whole world (like the crusaders)

Or Qatar bribed the judges with oil

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

anyway the dislike of the US played into this?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea

We paid the judges less.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

not unless South Korea and the Middle East have a reason to hold a grudge against the US…

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahahahahaahaha

hahahahahahahahahahaha

wait, that was a joke, right?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not give it to Australia then?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

who knows

I was just asking a question to see if “dislike of United States” was as plausible to this group as “They were totally paid off with oil”

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

They realized that every US bid is just trolling the world.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why this is so frustrating. Qatar makes no sense at all. I guess it makes more sense than Korea (since they just hosted) but really, this was a horrible decision.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

because we’re the US and we deserve the right to host the cup?

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

but in all seriousness, Oceania hasn’t hosted a cup either, though the big issue there is that it has to be played during the European offseason which is Australian winter

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

i was more

trolling Mike with his bit about how he responds when people say “it’s absurd, we should have X, Y, Z playing for us” :)

but it’s nice to learn things

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!

by nolander on Dec 2, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

WC was just played in dead of winter. No big deal

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. I assume the climates are similar enough.

I’m sure it’s more enjoyable being in Australia in the winter as opposed to the Arabian Peninsula in the summer.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I am thinking about going to Qatar

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

So much can change between now and then.

Won’t your kids be in high school?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

I am surprised they weren’t more worried about this from a security standpoint. Who knows what could be going on with the stability of that region in 12 years.

Also, isn’t Russia and Qatar the same continent (Asia)? I thought there was a rule about back to back world cups not being on the same continent? Or are they considering Russia to be part of Europe?

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

if we can change, youse can change

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking more of regional war than terrorism.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

well

you only have to look at 2014 WC for that. You see what is going on in Brazil the last 2 weeks?

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea but hasn’t that been going for years now? Sounds like City of God.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Russia is Europe for these purposes

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

For FIFA purposes, Russia is Europe. Europe covers all of the Caucasus, Turkey and Israel (for a different reason though.)

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

not having to spend 3-4 billion on new stadiums is the main reason.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

but all the money invested will create jobs for a short period of time and then leave everyone in debt.

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Because of all the reasons outlined above in this thread.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

what will they do with oil? someone needs to refine it still.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It doesn’t have to be the oil money thing. It could just be that collusion with Spain/Portugal, right?

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

those officials were banned, officially anyhow

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

the problem is that US did not get the South American support. that would have swayed everything.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, when the US had been selected, there was a chance they wouldn’t have qualified in like 40 years (of course they ended up qualifying in 90.)

And give them a break, Asia is a notoriously tough region to qualify from :)

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Qatar is weaksauce, but at least they are going to somehow show the world how to air condition entire outdoor stadiums.

by BFDC on Dec 2, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope USA ends up in their group!

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

there’s no way they make it out of their group. I’d be surprised if they win a game

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not as major as rooting for US to draw South Africa last year.

Asian teams aren’t nearly as strong as the non South Africa African teams.

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

About 3-4 years ago I watch SA dominate Mexico with my own 2 eyes at HDC. I will not take them lightly. Is there going to be a TBLA night for US-Chile at HDC in a couple weeks?

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to see if I can get credentialed for that

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not pissed off about this decision. But I am annoyed.

Is Sepp as inept as Budd?

I don’t understand this decision at all, given everything we know about the region, not just politically but with regard to the climate and the small population, as someone pointed out earlier.

I can’t help but suspect that Sepp did this as a means of cementing some sort of legacy: The Man That Brought the World Cup to All Corners of the World. Nevermind the possiblity of corruption.

Julain Assange, where are you when we need you the most?!

by Dr. Geek on Dec 2, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Julian has bigger fish to fry

and is doing a damn good job at it!

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

FWIW Qatar has the fastest growing economy in the world, so they’ll at least be able to make things look pretty.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

my only hope is that the $$$ that will come from this will be able to get to the poor who don’t live in the obnoxiously lavish cities built to entertain Western business men.

/rant

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

oh you mean you want Qatar to grow in a pattern dissimilar to all of its neighboring countries including China?

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the dream

that’s the dream

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The slaves might get to sleep in the construction sites.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but then what of it afterward?

Because that worked so well for Greece post-Olympics.

by Dr. Geek on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s the one thing I don’t understand about WC as humanitarian aid. It feels so much like the Peace Corp building freeways to nowhere in South America

by Josie Becker on Dec 2, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I could get behind such a decision if the goal was to promote soccer. But, even then, I don’t think holding the WC in a nation like Qatar is a good idea.

by Dr. Geek on Dec 2, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Arkansas could use some help

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Your words don’t hurt me Sir!

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

what could posibly go wrong, WWIII?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

the WC is soft power

used by the developed nations in the EU and elsewhere to foster goodwill and the FIFA values of openness, fair play, etc., but that shouldn’t be confused with rendering justice. It is a vehicle to make money for investors first and foremost, and much like the Olympics and IOC, they don’t much care about the long-term benefits to the host society or social parity, democracy, etc.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 2, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

All of the FA catching options look like garbage. Rod Barajas has no concept of on base percentage and AJ Ellis isn’t aware you can hit the ball over the fence and its okay. Put them together and we get a platoon full of tears.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

a platoon full of tears.

Usin’ that in the future.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

opening day will be a good time.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

hey!
There’s no crying in baseball!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

Dunn, White Sox closing in on four-year $56MM deal, the LA Times reports.
No way were the Dodgers getting in on that action, or just about any other team…

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

beginning to be an interesting roster over there…

"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"

by Maddz on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

seems like an affordable deal to me for Frankie

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe, if they go on the deferment plan again ;-)

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So long Konerko?

"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw reports they are trying to re-sign him too.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Konerko and Dunn back to back,
now we’re talkin’ ’bout a real AL lineup.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Even tho I dont wanna see Loney go, I would do that real quick.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I would too but...

Hrm, now Konerko’s available. But… nah.

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by underdog on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I shaw those days pass long ago.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The Shaw deal seems like 20 years ago

I’m always surprised Konerko’s still playing.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Last year was pretty crazy too. Winter Meetings will be hectic.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll have guys tweeting some opinion but will leave out a “I think” due to 140 characters and it will get picked up as news by like 50 others, and spread like wildfire.

IIRC that happened to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse last year.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

They never ever use us

I think long ago Andrew dissed them here and since they act like we don’t exist.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Months ago they used a article from here but everytime I visit that site I’m half expecting my computer to catch on fire.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Unlike the other writers here

I do check it out. They just report the rumors don’t understand why they get such crap. I don’t read the comments, TBLA takes care of that quota.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t read MLBTR but mostly because I follow most of the main baseball sources they use anyway. They are what they are, an aggregater of news that occasionally breaks their own shit (like the Elias Type As and Bs, even though the list wasn’t complete; no Padilla, for instance).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

easier for me to read them then follow 997 writers.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the first site I ever used in regards to baseball rumors

I used to be old school and read magazines and newspapers. But I can see how people don’t use that site, its basically an attack site now and if you don’t have ad blockers and shit like that on your browser, youre gonna pay.

Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.

by NotJoeTorre on Dec 2, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That part I understand

he’s doing everything he can to make some money but for a price.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My first MLB Rumors site

benmaller.com

The monkey is out of the bottle.

by G.Scott on Dec 2, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna have an anonymous source at the Winter meetings. I can have fun with that.

by regfairfield on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You going again?

Where is it this year? Vegas?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Has it ever been in LA?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure about LA, but it was in Anaheim a few years back.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that

but I meant LA. With the new Ritz / Marriot next to the convention center and LA Live I wonder if they could pull it off.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No not this year

its in Orlando (Lake Buena Vista) so all the baseball folks, and media can bring their families.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe I was the first person to “report” the Dotel trade to the Rockies, but its not like I broke the news, as I just happened to have my phone out as Joe Torre broke the news to all of the reporters standing around him.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Happy Thrusday to you all.....

I am anxiously awaiting to see what they do with Martin. What’s the latest Scoop?

by The Real Pancho on Dec 2, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

I’m just waiting for Steve Dilbeck to report it :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t do nothing without Dilbeck’s ok

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kaiser OK’d the move to Kaiser? :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

and he gets the blame too

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

How is that working out?

How is that working out? Was the grass greener?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It's grass

not sure of the color yet

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Explain?

Is Paul a bad sort?

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s just uber-jerky.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He really hates Kemp

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is any sports writer in Los Angeles

over 45 worth reading? They all seem to have been cut from the same cloth as I sweep my broad brush over the whole spectrum.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I am so happy Patrick Ramsey worked out with the Raiders today.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while

by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

too bad

JT O’Sullivan beat him out for Gradkowski’s roster spot.

by delias man on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather have Patrick McEnroe playing QB

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Felt bad this morning so I called in sick

And I slept from 8 AM (was up at 7:50 from going to bed last night) till about 2 PM. I still feel like crap.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 2, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

is this facebook?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you were crowing about how many members you have

this is what you get

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ease up meercat…..him tummy hurt…..

by keithc13 on Dec 2, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It must be or he'd

nailed me by now with my movember shit yesterday. Don’t take this wrong Ivdown but the best thing you have done for this site is bring in your iiidown.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

this

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So who’s going to sign Sherrill? I can’t imagine he’d get more than 1 mil with some performance incentives.

by silverwidow on Dec 2, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Let Frisco have him. Then we can say we traded Uribe for hinm

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 2, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s Detroit’s Logy now?
Sherrill could Loogy Dunn.

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

New thread please. This one is really starting to hang. Thanks.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 2, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Why can't they agree on 4.5 with incentives

Given the catcher market and as per an earlier comment. It seems the easy and best deal for both parties is 4.5 with incentives or even perhaps a two year deal with incentives but at a lower base.

by wineracquet on Dec 2, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

John Buck signed for 3/$18m. Maybe Martin feels he can do better. At the very least, make the Dodgers decide whether or not to tender him first.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

NPUT

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/2/1851685/loney-be-tender-with-my-love

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by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

I want Martin back.

I still am holding out hope he can somewhat return to form if his workload comes down. And we can afford to reduce his workload now that Barajas is back so they can split time instead of Martin catching 150 games.

I think they complement each other well since Barajas provides the power and Martin has good OBP skills and runs well for a catcher. Martin is better defensively but both are pretty solid at throwing out base runners.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Dec 3, 2010 4:35 AM PST reply actions  

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