Loney be tender with my love
by meercatjohn on Dec 2, 2010 2:59 PM PST
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The Dodgers have reported that they will tender James Loney, but that the decision on Russell Martin will probably not be decided until the very last minute. From Inside the Dodgers:
It's decision day on a few Dodger players, most notably Russell Martin, and Ned Colletti just told Jim Hill in an interview that this is one of the toughest decisions he's had to face since he came to the Dodgers. We'll know by 9 p.m. PT tonight at the latest what that decision is and hopefully that will provide a little more clarity on the catching situation.
As Eric prepares his write up on the Martin decision (he has to write four versions). We will continue the poll for the late afternoon crowd.
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Humma – we are here to please
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
It’s decision day on a few Dodger players, most notably Russell Martin, and Ned Colletti just told Jim Hill in an interview that this is one of the toughest decisions he’s had to face since he came to the Dodgers.
i.e. “non-tender”
I think no doubt he will be non - tendered
I guess the real question is, will he sign a contract with us before that happens.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Would you trade Martin
for Jacoby Ellsbury?
Two down years, two guys who their teams aren’t sure how they fit. It’s interesting, to say the least.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
If we’re gonna non tender Martin anyway, sure, but I think you can accomplish the same thing by keeping Martin and signing Scotty Pods.
Podsednik and Ellsbury
are not nearly the same player. Ellsbury is an elite defensive CF with 60 steal speed and a bad attitude (from what I gather). podsednik has 20 steal speed if he plays full time and can’t even be hidden in LF.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
We have been through this it seems every time Ellsbury is brought up
If he was an elite CF, the Red Sox would not have brought in Cameron to play CF, and move Ellsbury to LF.
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FWIW
i’m more likely to believe the pair of 20+ UZR/150 seasons than the -10UZR/150 he put up in 2009.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
FWIW
I’m more likely to believe Red Sox management then a defensive metric.
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absolutely yes
but i dont think the red sox would do that straight up (especially now that they signed varitek) they’d probably ask the dodgers to throw in a prospect.
Ellsbury would be a way better catch than resigning Pods. He’s one of the fastest in the game – capable of 50+ steals a season – a decent outfielder that can play center and will hit close to .300. Not to mention he’s young, hasn’t hit his peak yet and has not even hit arb yet (i think), so he’d cost the dodgers very little.
I sincerely hope
Colletti just meant it was a very difficult decision in that there are a lot of factors to consider, and not because he’s non-tendering a former All-Star catcher…first Piazza, then LoDuca, now (possibly) Martin. The half-life on great Dodger catchers ain’t what it used to be, I suppose…
I agree
I just meant it’s a hard-to-swallow moment when the Dodgers’ catchers leave L.A., for the most part.
Not signing LaDuca
to another long term deal and getting something for him Penny ended up being brilliant.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
the half-life on catchers, great average or otherwise, is short to begin with.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
This
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
I think Tomas’s point shouldn’t be glossed over. It absolutely is not clear whether the Dodgers should tender Martin. It’s a very difficult decision.
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Thanks Humma
I’m not as clear in these posts yet as I one day hope to be. Thanks for the help-me-out.
I'm drawing a blank...
What is the real story with the picture up top with Loney and Molina? Was that really a hug or something else?
cramped up
he was dehydrated
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
no prob
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
He hurt himself swinging
and Yadier held him up. It was sweeeeeeeeet moment
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Would you trade Martin
for Salty? Expensive catcher for cheap catcher?
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
Ned was the GM who started Martin
a AAA with only 91 at bats.
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He had plenty of choices
when Navarro was healthy he could simply have not traded him to make room for Martin. The fact is that Ned put a rookie with only 91 AAA at bats into the prime position of Dodger catcher.
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But Mark Hendrickson had the 7th highest ERA of left-handed starting pitchers in the AL at the time!
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
I remember being furious at that trade
once Baez and Hendrickson proved they weren’t quite up to par and Navarro became and All-Star…just thinking about it again makes me irritated for a reason I can’t quite explain.
I"m going to say yes
but I don’t know for sure. Would the Red Sox start a catcher who could not do that? He did start five games for them.
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lol
it took me a minute, but I remembered that. good show.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
It was on last night
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Martin, Link and Ely for Quentin
So Martin + Pierre for Quentin
If we want a reliever who doesn't dilly dally
and RUNS in from the bullpen every time, it appears Todd Coffey may be non-tendered by the Brewers.
If we get Coffey do we lose the sister?
having attractive siblings makes this tough, nothing against Mr. Sherrills brother but he did not bring anything to the table.
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According to Jayson Stark...
Dodgers STILL in on Padilla…
only way this is true is if they plan on flipping Billingsley after a solid season. This is overstating, but the point should be taken for what it is, I would only trade Billingsley for Ryan Braun.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
be careful...
i suggested that Ned might be planning on trading Bills the other day and everyone here jumped all over me
I thought it was plausible
and “jump” is not something we do here, only what people think we do when we don’t agree.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
didn't say my opinion wasn't allowed.
also, look at rule #1 and tell me that applies here…
that’s the one that says don’t say stuff like fuck
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
maybe jump wasn’t the right word, but people were pretty dismissive of something that now everyone sees as fairly reasonable
The same source
that said the Dodgers were in on Padilla also mentioned John Ely as a “solid” starting pitcher.
Pass.
I would think if he signs another legit SP that Billingsley’s value would go down, not up. We’d be in a position to need to sell.
I really think Braun may be the only guy I trade Billingsley for.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
well like I said
it’s not that he’s specifically what would happen, but the only way I’d even consider trading Bills is if I get a legit bat in return who will make similar money over the next two years.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I don't tolerate people who do not worship at the church of Billingsley
You have been warned
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
believe me
im a big fan of billingsley and would not be happy of he was traded. just saying it’s a possibility.
And all I’m saying is that if this happens, I will hold you personally responsible.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m so glad you’re part of the membership
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"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
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Maddz
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by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, but then why tender Loney?
I think it’s gotta be a pretty straightforward SP for LF swap.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Suppose so
I wouldn’t be opposed to this, but Billingsley’s sub-3 ERA in Petco would make me cry a little.
Though, I’d wipe my tears with Adrian’s 40 jacks.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Ned loves his depth, plus he just found out a day or two on the radio about Garland’s MRI
by Jason Ungar on Dec 2, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Ha Ha
Comment of the day so far
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averaged 30 HR a season...
obviously wouldn’t do that this season, but could come close.
but i don’t know, i don’t really give a shit about the Designate Hitter
That is so they can trade
Billingsley for Michael Young
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That’s how I feel here everyday!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Padilla could be a solid setup or swing man
Padilla is too fragile for SP but a Bully role might be perfect until he can establish himself healthy enough to start. He gives us insurance in case brox doesn’t come back as elite closer..
I should not be on this thread
because I have a criminal law review session that starts in 5 min. I’m all in favor of Martin for Ellsbury and his .291/.344/.405 line in LF, where he can platoon with Jay Gibbons, who is also lefthanded. Or keep him. Whatever. But I’d like the decision to be reached in the next 3 minutes.
So the Dunn deal is official?
If they sign Konerko I’m impressed if not they are simply treading water. Dunn in that stadium could be wild.
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Is it likely
we’ve made an offer to Martin’s agent and are simply waiting to see if he accepts or plays hardball up to the end?
I know I said I thought there'd be a deal today, but now I think I was wrong.
Martin should play hardball.
If he gets tendered, he can go to arbitration, and make $5 or $6 million.
If he does not get tendered, he can sign any deal. Maybe he takes a Dodger deal at $4.5 million or something, or maybe other suitors drive up the price and he gets a Buckian deal… it’s hard to imagine that the bottom would fall out of the market for him and he’d end up with, say, $2 million… possible, sure, but I’d bet otherwise.
So why make a deal today? Gut it out, make them choose, and THEN try to make a deal if he gets non-tendered.
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That makes sense. The only way Martin signs early is if he stands to make more than he would in the free agent market. The arbitration system is kinda messed up . . .
Well, to argue the other side now… if Martin’s agent looks at Pierzynski and Kendall and Olivo and whomever and decides, you know, there’s too much competition for Martin, we’re better off taking the bird in the hand — then he makes the deal.
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The point is: his agent knows the market for him, and might even have a deal in place with another team. There’s no rule against that, is there?
That would certainly be tampering, right?
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
I gotta think so… but it’s possible to skirt the lines, no? If I’m a GM I could call his agent and say, “So, have you heard anything from the Dodgers because we are interested if he gets non-tendered.”
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For one thing
Buck is coming off a year in which he hit 20 home runs and was an all-star. Martin is coming off a year in which he did not finish and wasn’t much to talk about before he got hurt. So no I do not think he can dream of Buck like contract.
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Agree completely
It’s also why, IMO, Barajas hasn’t re-signed yet. If Martin is non-tendered, Rod can get more cash as a more regular-type player.
He might be in line for a Torrealba-ish deal
but not John Buck. Martin hasn’t hit for 2.5 years and is coming off a major injury. I think you guys are looking too much into his past success which is ancient at this point.
I think I may have singled him out as the guy I would platoon in LF
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Jack Cust
he of the .880 OPS against RHP last year, with a .398 BABIP
The monkey is out of the bottle.
In the NL using the Uribe algorithm
isn’t that like a .939 OPS?
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The Cust you are!
The cust am I? Are you custing with me?
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Yup, me too, was what i was referencing. really dug it.
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ILTM
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Reputation matters?
@darrenrovell Carnegie Mellon study says Nike made $1.6M more by keeping Tiger. Wonder how frogs doing for Accenture
That reminds me — can we refer to Bengie Molina as a “two-time world champion” when the joke comes around to him? I mean, he does have two rings.
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Did anyone report
what Molina made share wise between the Giants / Rangers? I expect he got full shares from both teams.
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Those full shares
go right to the hips. Bengie needs more proportion.
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another 05 White Sox
I’m telling ya, it’s in the cards.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Jenks will get paid, likely to close, from somebody, just not a raise from the $7.5m he earned last year.
The Dodgers will never sign Jack Cust. I could see Lopez, but it’s a reach.
Well Juan Uribe got 3/21 and Jose Lopez is one year removed from a Uribe like year, so he might be worth taking a flier on.
Three
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If the Dodgers score 600 runs, how good does their pitching have to be to have a record fo 90-72?
Are we talking all-time great, or just ordinary great?
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Flo from Progressive says "More like Super Great!"
Pretty freakin good I’d think.
One of the numbers guys probably has that stashed away somewhere….
Did anyone watch the Flo commercial with the old dude
and say that sounds like Phil? Her last line killed me.
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I found a really cool insurance commercial...
I think it was All State, and it features like a guy and a girl arguing. The girls says she wants a new bf…and magic a model looking dude appears…this model looking guy then says that he wants a better gf…and voila a model looking chic appears. Its pretty creative.
"We will break you up with your loved ones and then replace you with a pod person"
Like a good neighbor
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Remember how great our pitching was in the second half last year?
better than that.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I have soft spot for Jose
given his birth date.
You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable
don’t like any of them. Jenks is good, but i think the dodgers need to focus on getting a solid lefty. Lopez can’t hit. Cust can’t play outfield.
Lopez could not hit last year
but in 2008 / 2009 he had over 65 XBH both years and would have been a solid hitting 2nd baseman. Someone you might want to take a flyer on.
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Sometimes...you just have to go WTF...
The most frustrating thing about Dodger management is understanding how they value certain players.
Today should be exactly the opposite…Russ Martin should get tendered..while Loney should be the “toughest decision of Ned’s career” or what not…
If Martin/Loney each put up their average numbers…Martin is still alot more valuable. Martin, even at his shitty levels of production the last several years…is still at worst a league average catcher.
Loney…is at the bottom of 1st basemen…every single season.
Not to mention its easier to find a 1st baseman than catcher.
WTF? This stuff is like basic stuff…and Ned Colletti still doesnt get it. He overvalues the “playing everyday” aspect when if you play poorly…it doesnt really help the team.
Martin has been in the bottom third offensively the past 2 seasons.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Well said. Although I still wouldn’t want to be in his shoes re: Martin and be faced with paying the guy $6mm if offered a tender.
any other slugging first basemen left on the market?
or are we gonna end up doing some kind of trade?
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yep
I kinda have a feeling that the Uribe deal is the most drastic improvement Ned will make for the team this year.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
They will sign a LF. It might be Podsednik, so you could be right, but they will sign a LF.
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who knows
we may get lucky and end up with Johnny Damon
Pat Burrell will not be on the Giant roster come Sept
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did they get to keep her rights?
Pujols gets anything he wants doesn’t he?
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BTW
she called the other day but like Jermaine Dye I turned her down because I expect better offers.
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awesoke
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how are you gonna feed your family with that?
/Sprewell
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Any idea as to what LF is available for James Loney
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I understand why people want to get rid of Loney
but I’d rather have him on my team than Fukudome (isn’t he expensive, too?) Not that I don’t think the latter can’t be better than he often was with the Cubs, but that just strikes me as trading “meh” for “meh.”
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Thats only if the Dodgers signed Konerko for 1st…
No, I wouldnt trade Loney for Fukudome without having a slugger at 1st already in hand.
Again though
if you sign a 1B then try to trade Loney, you’ve put yourself in a position of weakness. At least right now, we can offer Loney up as a MLB starting 1B. If you have Konerko on the team, you have to trade Loney because he has no value as a bench guy.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I see
I guess I just don’t see the latter happening at this point. Options are more and more limited there.
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For the Dodgers to tender Loney so quickly
that means he has the support of Mattingly. If that is a good thing or not I do not no, but the man has worked with him for a few years now, and must see something, otherwise I think he’d been cut loose. Stat wise I under stand what Joey Joey is saying, but emotionally I’m glad Loney gets one more year with us.
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I just read an article that says that Damon probably won’t be our LF because he can’t play everyday. What do you guys think about Jermaine Dye 1yr/5M.
yeah
5 mil would be a huge overpay. he didnt go unsigned last season because no one wanted him (he was coming off a 27 hr season) it’s because no one met his demands. he probably wouldnt repeat that mistake
Dye didnt even play last year.
I doubt there’s much interest in him.
He doesnt hit enough to be a DH…and who knows what kind of shape he’s in for the OF.
he hit enough to be a DH 2 years ago, he just wanted to be paid well and play RF everyday.
he didn’t change his demands, and the offers never changed, so he watched from the sidelines.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
How many guys over the age of 35
sit out a year, and come back at age 37 as good as they were when they left? The dude had a .793 OPS for the White Sox one of best places to hit in baseball two years ago. If he can still be productive enough to be a major league LF then I’ll be one shocked blogger.
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I in no way advocated his signing. But, as was stated by court123853821639820, he had offers, he just turned them down.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
So he said
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Really - this is enough to be a DH?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dyeje01.shtml
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They all passed a year ago
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averaged 30 HR a season
he obviously wouldnt repeat that, but he could come close.
but i don’t really know what it takes to be a DH. I’m more of an NL-style fan.
Jose Lopez matched
the offensive season of Jermaine Dye in 2009 as a 2nd baseman.
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The Official Dodgers Twitter Feed
Is reporting that the Dodgers are still in talks to re-sign Padilla.
This is really odd.
Apparently, they envision Padilla to be a swing man?
Padilla out of the bullpen isn’t a terrible idea. His velocity is pretty strong these days, and I imagine he could really pump it up in 1 inning stints.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I bet he swings like a mofo!
I agree with your idea of a one inning, come in and throw hard and leave guy.
He would be awesome
insurance for Garland, and your right might make a killer setup man. Just seems odd that when Pavano is the next best pitcher out there that Padilla is not getting any play.
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It’s certainly not a minor league deal.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Padilla being long man/6th starter...
sounds great to me, at a reasonable price of course.
@neufaustcan
maybe he just really likes LA?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Doctors believe that it’s just a matter of time before he blows out his arm.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Sounded odd to me too
until I started hearing about, and thinking about, the idea that Padilla would be signed as a swingman/long reliever. This actually makes sense to me, if he’d want to do that. Maybe he likes LA enough to agree.
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or what you said above just before me
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If it doesn’t prevent us from signing anyone, sure. But spending 17-20 million between Padilla, Garland and Uribe could have got a hell of a player instead.
Isn't
Garland 3.5
maybe Padilla can be gotten for 3.5
both would be one year players, with only Uribe being on the books past 2011. ANy of the hell of players are four years minimum which we know Ned does not do anymore since Pierre.
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I’m counting Garland as 8, since I still feel like that option’s gonna vest.
And yeah, Ned is opposed to signing good players, so it probably doesn’t matter anyway.
Basically
they are doing everything possible to avoid the Haegars, Elys and Monks of the world starting games for the Dodgers this year.
If Vicente Padilla is damaged enough that he’d take a job as a long reliever, would he even be better than Ely?
I know you hate Casey Blake
but dude still fields like a mofo and can hit lefties very well. He still has value.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Why stop there? What if the team signs Padilla and Cliff Lee????
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Rubby
is only good for maybe 140 innings next year. He will make all of them in games that don’t count for the LA Dodgers
Does Martin have much trade value?
If we can’t sign him it probably means that Dodger management thinks he is worth less than what he will get paid in arb or less than what Martin thinks he is worth. What value would that situation hold for another team? A team without a catcher? Well, isn’t that us. Just curious.
Adam Dunn
354 HRs, 31 years old. Almost a lock to get to 500, only has to average 27 home runs until age 40 to get to 600.
Something like 38,38,37,33,30, 26, 24, 20 would get it done.
Seems plausible.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Well
that will be interesting.
Griffey, Thome and Frank Thomas are the 3 players who have hit 500+ HRs without the steroids/PEDs surrounding them.
Of those three, Thome is probably the closest to Dunn and even that if you project it out tells me Thome is much better player than Dunn
What is deadline for tendering or non tendering Duckbill btw?
I assume today too? Er, I assume they are unlikely to tender him…
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they haven’t determined that yet? Was Ned looking for a trade partner to take Sherrill?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
As far as I can tell nothing official yet
the MLBTR tender tracker is a good thing to look at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/nontenders2011
(tender tracker is also what the FDA uses to secretly photograph mcdonald’s food practices)
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I'd take
the over on the 500 HRs, and would put the o/u at around 550. Once his power starts to fade he will lose all his value.
Isn’t that what the Royals are for?
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everything Nolander drinks looks like orange juice in that mug of his.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
My tigger mug?
or are you thinking of Delias Mans Florida mug? Or are you trying to stoke the flames of our… “rivalry”?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Are we excluding the fresh-squeezed stuff? Because that’s what I like.
But short of that, I’m a fan of non-concentrate OJ, and Tropicana does well too.
If it’s from concentrate, give me Donald Duck.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
They still sell DD?
I loved that stuff as a kid.
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I think they do. I don’t eat breakfast that often, but I’ll look for it in the grocery store.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
it has three ingredients
water, sugar, and purple
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
But purple is a fruit, so it’s all good.
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I usually go with Trop mysefl
but also like Trader Joes stuff, like it sweet.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I usually go for high-pulp with calcium.
Occasionally I buy the freshly squeezed from one of the local markets.
I should just get a juicer. I have fond memories of making freshly squeezed orange juice at home as a kid.
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I think my love of pulp comes from my growing up on freshly squeezed orange juice, from which pulp was a natural side effect, or so it seemed to me. And by growing up on it, I mean I made freshly squeezed orange juice probably a dozen times in my childhood.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I strained my fresh squeezed orange juice.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe my mom and I were lazy. But that’s how I like it now!
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I’m also anti-pulp and anti-calcium. I like my orange juice nice and acidic.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Now Ned can trade Rubby, Withrow and E. Martin for him
mlbtraderumors
Blue Jays Close To Signing A.J. Pierzynski
For those who still want Martin
In theroy this move gives the Dodgers a better chance to either sign Martin to a long term or just tender him a contract with the hopes that with more time a decision can be made.
Quite a drop for the Blue Jays from Buck to AJ
Didn’t they also trade for some catcher? Olivo?
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tks
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The number five
left-handed hitter in career OPS is whom:
The top 4 are Ruth, Williams, Gehrig and Bonds.
I think Musial could move back there if Helton's decline continues.
Helton .9786
Musial .9757
But Helton is probably a going to finish above the next left-handed hitter
Walker .9654
My opinions:
1. Coors, before the humidor, inflated Helton’s stats.
2. Helton is still a hell of a hitter and I’m comfortable putting him in the HOF.
3. No matter what happens to Helton, there will be a significant chunk of the population that says that the thing that happens to him is entirely due to Coors:
3a. If he makes it, some will cite his Coors-inflated stats and say it’s a cryin’ shame
3b. If he doesn’t make it, others will say that he was dismissed because of Coors, when in fact he was a hell of a hitter
Now with 33% more Kavula
He can sit in the
fuck section with Edgar Martinez
To much of a decline after testing for me. Maybe age, maybe health, i reserve the right to change my mind
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My tech savvy friends
Does anybody know how you can download/listen to a podcast on an android phone?
Trying to. I recently got the chord which allows me to plug in my phone to the speaker system in my car. This came after I figured out Pandora.
On the ride in this morning, I remembered there was a time (5+ years ago by now) that I used to enjoy listening to sports radio. And then the idea of downloading a podcast for my commute how came into my mind.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Some podcasts are just .mp3 downloads, so you can download them and listen to them in your regular music player.
Ok, I'll come clean
The intention is to download Simmons podcast
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=2864045
All mp3 files. You should be able to navigate to that page on your phone’s browser and download them. If not, you can download to your computer and transfer it the way you transfer other files.
It seems like it is a ton of memory. 12 MB.
I guess the key is to delete after listening.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I know there are some sites that
you can add as an app that have specific podcasts (ESPN Radio, NPR, etc.) There are some podcast catching apps but they have varying degrees of ratings.
havent used it but
I believe pocastalley.com has them in mp3 format. not sure if they have every podcast tho..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 2, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Harsh.
But you are the guy who discovered frappucinos this summer.
by Michael White on Dec 2, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Eh
I saw that caption on a political cartoon about Prince Charles’s affair more than a decade ago.
Now with 33% more Kavula
“I got a goal, and thats to bring an NBA championship to Cleveland, and I won’t stop until I get it”
http://gvartwork.myshopify.com/products/lebron-the-lyin-king-t-shirt
Awesoke
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Ronnie?
man he barely played there.
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Next thing you know he'll be wearing
a clipper jersey to unveiling of the retired Blake Griffin jersey next year
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He loves hookers and blow
What’s not to like?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
If Ronnie more identifed
with the Bulls or Lakers?
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On the other hand,
I wouldn’t mind if their PA announcer was fed to lions after that cavs introduction. Yikes.
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And ye gods, this is the most excitement you'll hear in that place for that starting lineup
which made me say “yikes.”
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I think he's underrated a bit
but…that’s just not a great starting lineup…
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And he's looking good so far!
In your face LeBron!
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Want to buy my John Wall game this Sunday?
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Shockingly
he played as many seasons with the Clippers as he did with the Bulls. I’ll always remember how great he was for us right after we traded for him but that might be selective memory.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harpero01.html
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Jordan did a different kind of chalk thing, right? KG did a more similar move (if not exactly the same) as LeBron’s?
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Steve Nash is funny
via Twitter:
Long bus ride from SF to Oakland for the game. Somebody update me on the @TNT early game. Who’s playing?
It's funny also because it's really not a long bus ride.
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Anyone off the top of their heads remember
who the Clippers traded to the Cav’s for Ronnie Harper? He was the 2nd pick of the draft and refused to play for us. For the 2nd pick of the draft he did not have much of a career but did hang around for 13 years.
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Nice
1989 draft
http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1989.html
Does Vlady have an argument as the best player from that draft?
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Tim Hardaway for me
Then probably Kemp (what a flameout after an awesome peak), and then Vlade (maybe Glen Rice).
Tim Hardaway stands out for me.
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The woman in the T-Mobile 4G commercial
is hot, but her ears are gigantic. Then again, complaining about that is like complaining about Toothy McGrin on Mad Men. Hot is hot.
I had a T-Mobile phone back in 2003
and I had dropped calls all over LA. So I changed to Verizon in 2004.
i am not a snob regarding cellphones. mine sucks. i barely use it.
whats with the me hate these days? jeez
they're upset that their wives think you're cute
and that you have a picture with me and Josie.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I watched the first episode of Mad Men last night.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I wouldn’t quite say that, but I did enjoy it.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I didn’t really care for it. :(
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I have a hard time
with period shows as ongoing series. I’m okay with the mini series form like Deadwood.
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Seems liked the most realistic Western ever, all it needed was a huckleberry
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How was Deadwood more of a miniseries?
There were 12 episodes per season, and 3 seasons of what was supposed to be a guaranteed 4 and probable 5.
There are 13 episodes of Mad Men per season, and so far 4 seasons.
Perhaps that makes it a miniseries too for you? In any case, you should watch it. Greatest TV, well along with Breaking Bad and Terriers.
Cable TV series are nowadays no longer than 12-13 episodes per season. (In the UK, a miniseries is usually 4-6 episodes, but I can’t remember when the last US one that short appeared. Well the first season of The Walking Dead is apparently just 7 episodes. Maybe I’ve seen a few on USA channel too.)
Good points
I’ll change my comment. I don’t like period pieces during the period I’ve been alive.
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So for people who were alive then like you and me, it’s not a period piece. Forget about that aspect then. That’s not really the point of Mad Men anyway, even though the fact that they do it so well is what’s garnered much of the attention. It’s a multi-layered novel on screen, about people’s work and private lives, that beats anything since Flaubert and Tolstoy. Try it.
by berkowit28 on Dec 2, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like I should really like Mad Men, and I enjoy it when I watch it, but I can never really inspire myself to. It took me months to get through season one, and season twos been sitting on my shelf for a while untouched.
That’s kinda me and the Soprano’s.
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I have
but only for a few episodes. I guess I’ll try it when I rent the whole seasons. I appreciate the effort in trying to talk me into them.
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Loney's reaction to being tendered
Just wanted an excuse to use this picture
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I can deglaze it down to this
It’s what happens when you swallow a bag of cocaine
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
World Cup
If Qatar was pronounced normally, like Kuh-TAR, it would not have been awarded the 2022 World Cup. Instead, it got the WC since it is pronounced like the lead character in this movie:
What the shitsky?
From Hank Schulman:
Burrell’s deal, to be announced tomorrow and reportedly $1 million, has NO incentives.
He should actually perform under that no pressure contract
until of course the post season starts.
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that and the 1 and 3/4 years
before he went to SF. Sucking for most of 2 years tends to make people lose interest in you.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Was he really there that long?
oops
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Blake Griffin snorts at that
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I would imagine that he is motivated today.
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In the next four days
I will talk to Emily Deschanel (Bones) and Alan Alda (MASH – guesting on 30 Rock again). Anyone have questions for either of them?
Did Alda enjoy Bill Hader’s impression of him on SNL?
Emily, why is your sister prettier and more talented than you?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 2, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Awesoke questions.
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Hmm
Alda: You worked with Larry Gelbert and Woody Allen, what are their similarities when it comes to comedy?
Emily: I have nothing.
Alan, do you really dig science? It seems like you do in Scientific American Frontiers. But you are also a great actor.
so what gives?
Alan – was the set more fun with the first group or the second group?
Alan – did the longevity of Mash help or hinder your development as an actor?
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These are all good suggestions
am jealous of both your interviews ;-)
Could ask Alda about his grandkids wanting to be actors, does he support that? Presumably he likes it and his dad was an actor too but be curious to hear how he’s given them advice.
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Josie, I’m not smart enough to form a good question for either person. I hope you don’t take my shitty questions as mocking your interviews.
I make shitty jokes because…..I like to make shitty jokes.
No harm?
all about timing
You ask this question before noon and you’d get 25 replies
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I think he’s busy barfing
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Truer words were never spoken.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
According to plus/minus
stats of this game, LeBron and the bench played better than LeBron and the starters.
Can’t wait to hear him talk about it.
Well he pitch this year or is he Prior at this point?
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St. Louis Dispatch columnist tweets
miklasz
The LeBron/Cleveland return is good preparation for Pujols at Busch Stadium in a Mets uniform in 2012
Hoping
to sign him to a deal I presume?
Has the ship passed on him being able to play 3rd base like it passed on Betemit?
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Is that final?
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For the first time in my life
I cannot name one member of the UCLA basketball team.
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They're still playing basketball?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Is that considered the
pupcake part of the schedule?
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Even better.
They go along with the Standards that hold the Backboards up. They are bulit in the likeness of Raef LaFrentz
and the ramps on the outside of the arena for ADA access can be adorned with pictures of Paul Pierce!
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A+! Would rec agani!
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Dodger tenders
While most know that Loney will be tendered guess the info is going to come all at once?
The Angels had 9 arb-eligibles. Their only non-tender was Kevin Frandsen, per Bill Plunkett of the OC Register.
Doesn't Frandsen
have a real good arm? Like a high 90s fastball?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
D'oh
confused him with someone else. NM
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Even PI can't stop Foster
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Someone forgot
To tell Cleveland that the Heat would probably play well tonight.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 2, 2010 6:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm disappointed
I expected more hostility, frankly
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
2 Questions
1) If he would sign for a 1 or 2 year deal at a similar figure (no more than $2 million more, for example) to what Loney would get in arbitration, do people think Berkman would be a better option at 1B? And yes, I know this may be moot with Loney getting tendered.
2) What do people think about Tony Gwynn, Jr. (non-tendered today) as a defensive replacement in the OF? He’d come cheap, and boy do we need one with a current OF of Kemp, Ethier, and Gibbons.
He doesnt really have a favorable platoon split over the last 3 years.
vs RHP – .235/.331/.313 (575 abs)
vs LHP – .255/.309/.315 (149 Abs)
I wouldnt want Gwynn on the team.
I’d rather keep Kemp in CF and sign Pods..(as unpleasing as that sounds)…or move Kemp to LF and just play XP or Trayvon in CF.
I don't think I'd platoon him
But as potentially weak as our OF could be defensively, I’d love to have the option of putting him in CF in the late innings and pushing Kemp to RF. Plus he could pinch-run. And hey, he’d be better than Garrett Anderson at the plate!
Oh, and according to FanGraphs, Gwynn had 1.7 WAR last year, Pods had 0.4. And Gwynn probably comes at under $1 million, while Pods probably would make around $3 million.
Lebron just made all of Cleveland his bitch…in addition to Cleveland’s punk owner.
Cleveland’s response: “Akron Hates You” chant.
I don't think they should be chanting "Who's your daddy?"
Considering what the score is
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
Him in Dodger Blue
was Humma’s Nightmare
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
I remember seeinng Jack Cust
and thinking he was super cute because he hit leadoff for the A’s and when I was working on some baseball game.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I work one day
and i miss out on all this real deal baseball talk! jeez! at least martin waited for me to get home (and for time warner to get their internet back up) before anything interesting happened with him.
just give him 15 pushups
call it even :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Hahhah, Jay kills me sometimes
@jay_jaffe There’s no truth to the rumor that the Dodgers are testing Russell Martin’s hip by making him chase a balled-up contract to the backstop
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Do you think, maybe with some rest this season, he could rebound to his former Golden God glory days?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I think he can come back to being good again at least
that is my hope. Unless the Dodgers lose him, in which case, no, he’ll probably suck.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
How is your fantasy matchup going Keith?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Losing 29-0
He has 3 players going tonight. I have 0.
If it stays under 40, I’ll be okay. I bet Vick loses his fuckin mind before long though.
Texans lead the Eagles 24-20
I’m stunned
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
More or less stunned then I will be
at how we figure out how the Texans end up losing the game :).
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
This offense is explosive
and vick is getting pretty beat up
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
But I thought Michael Vick
Was the greatest player evah
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
Thats usually enough time
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Heard This
that is a generous estimate of time
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
TMI
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
five minutes left!!
I should study….
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I can't tell time.
Dammit. There’s 45 minutes left.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
yeah, I know
I just realized this. It means I can stop checking twitter and actually get some work done when I’m not hitting ‘Z’ here.
Btw, I am in town from the 16th to the 6th, and I am totally down to organize another event.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Lebron talking about his greatness
I wanna like Lebron, but stuff like this make it hard to
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
Where does everyone think Russ Martin and his agent are right now?
I wonder if they are in his agent’s office…just waiting by the phone.
Or maybe Martin isnt even involved…maybe his agent is working the phone and Martin is all like “just text me when you find out something”..
this is when we find out
that silverwidow is actually clayton kershaw in disguise and that he gets a close friend to comment for him when he’s playing.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
AJ back with the Sox
MLBTR is saying AJ back to the Sox 2 years at 8m. So Dodgers could do a two year at 7 with incentives back loaded.
and Francisco Franco
is still dead. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
wow
that’s really old
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
and you got it
what’s that say? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
That's not a foul
That’s BS right there
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
any relation to Rick?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
if he was related to BJ
Josie can work that into her interview with Hawkeye
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
unbelievably bad call...
especially in that situation. Off balance out of control players barely touching each other on a loose ball isn’t a foul.
@neufaustcan
I don’t expect any moves other than arb guys, but if the Dodgers were to remove John Lindsey (for instance) from the 40-man, tonight would be the night. Technically, the club is tendering contracts to all players under reserve, which includes all the 0-3 guys too.
I meant to ask about Lindsey the other day
do you think he’s going to be sent back to AAA? Kept on the bench?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Maybe they'll all be back with the Dodgers tomorrow.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It happens
when you are down by that much that late. The real story is how bad the defense is.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Per Jon Heyman
“dodgers have been trying today to trade russell martin. they have 33 minutes to tender deadline.”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
More non-tender thoughts
from Heyman:
#dodgers have been trying today to trade russell martin. they have 33 minutes to tender deadline.
the only good reasons for this...
would be that they can get a good return (unlikely), or they have serious doubts about his health.
@neufaustcan
of course lack of trade interest...
could make Martin’s side consider lowering their demands.
@neufaustcan
Could be, interesting point
Could be bargaining method. “Sorry, no one else really wants you. So here’s the deal…”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Or that, sigh
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If it wasn't that 6 million figure,
Not only would the Dodgers be more willing to extend an offer, but like Theriot, there’d be more teams willing to talk trade
isn't
6 million less than what the other catchers have been signing for, though? Wouldn’t that be a bit of a deal?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Buck signed for 3/18, but has had 2 good years in a row.
AJP was 2/8
Torrealba was 2/6.25
Varitek was 1/2
mmm
so Varitek really effed things up?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
a la Basmus?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Moreso if Basmus had spent his last year with the houston colt 45’s
Varitek is part of the culture.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
If Ned could get a good return for Martin he should do the deal. But, if he can’t get a deal for Martin he should tender a contract. He can always trade him down the road.
I don’t like the idea of letting Martin go for nothing.
Only drawback to tendering him a contract is that he’ll almost certainly go to arbitration and get 5-6 mils.
The only way to get him for less than that is to non-tender him and resign…but that is risky.
If they agree on a contract they don't have to worry
If they can work out a two year contract a 1 year with incentives then there is no risk of arbitration…hopefully that is what they have been working on, although at this point I am beginng to thin non-tender.
Martin's Agent should also understand this
This is why they should be able to figure out a deal, if Martin is non tendered and with the Boston and Sox signing market for catchers is shrinking.
also known as
a penalty shot
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
11:46 EST
Do they get extra time on the clock if a deal is in progress?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe they get some injury time
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
All I can say is a big Fuck you to the referees in the basketball game tonight. We got screwed all game, culminating in one of the worst calls in recent NCAA history. How you can make a call on a broken, scrambling play with the offensive player completely out of control is beyond me.
Sigh. Maybe Ned's going more toward the Giant model of low OBP lineup :-/
MikeSciosciasTI
If Martin’s gone, replaced by an Olivo/Barajas type.. and with Uribe.. a non-Manny LF.. this could be one OBP-suck team. @ChadMoriyama
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The winter meetings will bring home a real LF
otherwise, this is all just an exercise.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 2, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Ned is trying to make me cry
i swear0
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
like Ukraine
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
i know...i just wanted to be the first to post it
in case it’s true!
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
plus
i just got home and that’s the first thing i saw
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
They posted this a few days ago.
“Got a message on Varitek. Coming from my old source of which I don’t use: “It appears the Dodgers are on the verge of signing Varitek”
my guess is the dodgers spent all day negotiating with Padilla
and then had 5 minutes left for Martin…that’s why the decision was going to be so hard…no time
by Brandon Lennox on Dec 2, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Don't we have 5 starters already?
"I love you, but I'd love you more if you were as miserable as me"
link fail
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
no just still negotiating
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
When the Territorial Cup is on the line, you throw something out the window. Most likely a bottle of Scotch.
by Bob Timmermann on Dec 2, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
NOT SCOTCH!
At least, not a bottle of Talisker.
Huh?
Long relief? Billingsley trade? Garland insurance?
if Billz gets traded
I hope he goes crazy and is a total beast wherever he lands. And I’m going to get a Billz jersey. Just befuckingcause.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
my gues
is one and three. Really no reason for two.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 2, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Padilla
Opening Day Starter
/ducks
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Dec 2, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
With Padilla in the fold….I really wish that the Dodgers had spent the Ted Lilly money/contract on a bat.
Seriously, that 11 million would've been a nice start for a Dunn/Beltre contract
Add whatever is left in this suddenly bottomless-payroll…and you get a strong bat
(hail of rubber band, paper clips, coffee cups.......)
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
..or Ned becomes the most baffling person...and pulls a trade with Billingsley
..in order to get his LF/bat
Typically this would be non-sense in every way..but after this, who the heck knows…
Jon Garland’s blatant honestly caused this…
by Joey Joe on Dec 2, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If the guy is willing to relieve
I’ll take him
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Jay Jaffe
It’s midnight. Do you know where your Russell Martin is?
Yep. That’s legit.
The #Dodgers have non-tendered Russell Martin, George Sherrill and Trent Oeltjen. Quotes from Colletti to follow shortly
we were kept in suspense all day for Trent Oeltjen?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
wait, it’s December.
Is he Australian?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 2, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
sure hope Ned pulls something here
and not out of his ass. Who the fuck is going to catch with out Martin in the fold.
I am not sure I buy the non-tender sign theory, but I can hope to be wrong
Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!
by MammothDodger on Dec 2, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
its officiial
martin sherril oeltjen nontendered
I needed good news
this was not it.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Any idea of #'s for Padilla?
I’m surprised he signed with the Dodgers..I’m sure with a crappy market of starters he would’ve gotten a decent deal somewhere…At least a sure starting job…
Because having 6 starters doesn't make sense.
I’ll go on a limb and say we gave Padilla at least 1 year/5 million like we did Garland…
Which if so would be quite the use of money…
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