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Dodgers Trade Chin-Lung Hu To Mets For Michael Antonini

The Dodgers today announced that they have traded infielder Chin-Lung Hu to the New York Mets for minor league left-handed pitcher Michael Antonini. This was expected, as Hu was out of options and figured to be a long shot to make the major league team in spring training. At the very least, this move clears a spot on the 40-man roster, which now has 39 players.

Hu had sips of coffee in each of the last four seasons, hitting .191/.241/.283 at the major league level in 191 plate appearances. He saw his most time in 2008, filling in for the injured Rafael Furcal, but hit just .181/.252/.233 in 65 games. Hu's calling card is his defense, and his prospect luster shone brightest in 2007, when he put up an .871 OPS splitting time between Double A Jacksonville and Triple A Las Vegas. However, he combined for a rather mediocre .735 OPS in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League from 2008-2010.

Antonini was drafted by the Mets in the 18th round in 2007, and he split time in 2010 between Double A and Triple A in his age 24 season. In 29 starts last year, he was 8-12 with a 4.49 ERA between Binghamton and Buffalo. In his minor league career, Antonini has walked 2.1 batters per nine innings while striking out 7.0 per nine. Antonini has started 84 of his 96 career minor league games, including starting 79 of his 84 games in the last three seasons. Antonini will have to be added to the 40-man roster after next season to protect from losing him in the Rule 5 draft, if the Dodgers are so inclined.

Eric Simon of Amazin Avenue had this to say of Antonini:

Antonini is a finesse lefty with good control but little in the way of strikeout prowess. If he were a ground ball pitcher then he might be a poor man’s Jon Niese, but he’s a fly ball pitcher and overall not very projectable.

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Seems like a decent trade.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

Strikeout numbers

bh, you said the highest strikeout total in the last 11 years was Kevin Brown in 1999 (221). You know that the 300 mark has been eclipsed during that time, right?

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet Kershaw gets at least 225 Ks this season

I’ve got a great feeling about him this year.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How did you feel about Matt Kemp going into 2010?

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 28, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

hey that's a low blow G. Scott

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 28, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Kershaw was sick each of the last two seasons

Kemp was very good after 09. Pretty good difference.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 28, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Repeated quiz question.

Name the last Met, Pirate and Cardinal to top 220K in a season
One was HOF, one has played for two of those three teams and the other won World Series titles for 2 other teams.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Okay

I’ve got Gibson for the Cardinals
Oliver Perez for the Pirates but I had to check his numbers to make sure he had done 220
David Cone for the Mets – didn’t think he had 220 K’s ever but the clue was big

Might be wrong on the Cardinals. Seems like someone like Wainwright might have done it since him. Or Carlton. Or Rick Wise.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right

Gibson was the last one to top 220 (I think the last time he did it was over 240-250).

I thought the clues would help.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Had

a hard time coming up with Perez because you usually think of good pitchers who have hit that mark. Then again I was a big fan of his, just another sign I’d make a terrible GM.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wild Ass Lefties

are a weak point with me, mainly because of Randy Johnson.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

this made me giggle
Hu had sips of coffee in each of the last four seasons, hitting .191/.241/.283 at the major league level in 191 plate appearances.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

I see that MLS

is trying to get Fox Soccer Channel to pony up $20M per year for rights fee in their next deal, that would be almost a seven fold increase from the $3M they get now.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

they won’t get that much, but that’s a figure most likely based on future size and quality, no way the rights are worth that now, ESPN doesn’t want a full MLS slate, and I doubt versus could afford that

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha you guys/girls kill me

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Dec 27, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

so with a guy like Hu

is a trade like this the only (forgive me) option? Can a guy that is out of options and not playing for the major league team just be fired?

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, once he’s out of options he gets put on waivers if you take him off the 25 man.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

so...

 "What I Like About Hu" was really…nothing?

(sorry, couldn’t resist, this is what you get for misplacing your cellular device)

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re gonna quarantine us, at this rate

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Your not taking “got drunk at family function” as an excuse?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah. I guess that’s alright. :)

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha well played, well played

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Dec 27, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He can be DFAed

which is what the Mets will have to do if he doesn’t make their 25-man roster.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Abreu = Jon Garland
Chin Lung Hu = Mike Antonini

Does this make logic?

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Your 2011 Dodgers!

We really, really, really like pitching. Really.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

When Abreu got traded people actually thought he was good.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Still might be

why do people write off players after they struggle their first full year in the majors when they get limited at bats?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

most people are stupid

by delias man on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he’s terrible, just that the perception of Tony Abreu in 2009 is very different than Chin Lung Hu in 2011.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, i remember the gnashing of teeth

Carroll kind of makes Hu unnecessary though, right? And Uribe? Can Uribe play SS or am I making things up?

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, Uribe can play SS if needed.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he can. Only problem is that this isn’t gonna lead to a good player, this is gonna lead to Juan Castro.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I for one am happy about this move.

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

hi keith!

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You see jacoby Ford again yesterday?

by delias man on Dec 27, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith is a big time Hu basher. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Hu gives a fuck if he got traded????

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

AND IT CONTINUES!

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought a book of stamps today at the post office. The guy says “It’ll be $8.80 for the stamps and a $3.00 service charge for all Dodger fans.” I told the guy that I thought he could take the $3.00 and use it to cut off the rat tail he had.

He got pissy and mumbled something about good natured ribbing.

Fuck him

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

What these stamps you refer to?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 27, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a missing “are” in there. You figure out where it should go.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I used a stamp today to send away for some Super Bowl commemorative glasses from Coors Light. Now I just need to figre out what to do with 9 pints of Coors light

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

have bros drink them really really fast?

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s not bad beer after your tongue goes numb from the first one, it’s just not tasty beer either

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

But the beer in a cup you’re about to flip?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

flip up? I guess watery beer is best for the drinking games. Didn’t have those in the co-ops though, it was more drinking sangria from butter tubs.

Naked of course

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

sounds like he was trying to have fun with a Dodger fan and you were being defensive. TOTM

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If he cut off the rat tail, Keith did him a huge favor.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I figured he was just being a run of the mill Cardinal prick.

Giants fan. No shit….

I wanted to go use that machine that spits out stamps.

I’m in fuckin Arkansas! How in the hell do I meet the only Giants fan within 300 miles?

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants fans are coming out of the closet across the country

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

if such a thing would happen to the Dodgers the amount of Dodger fans who would come out of the closet in LA alone would stagger the imagination

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Spring Training question

anyone here go to it before? Suggestions on where to stay, what to do, etc? I’m looking for a Div School Diversion in March.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

I think BH

is your best source here.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 27, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes
Book hotel room now
Watch as much baseball as humanly possible

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Arizona. Duhhhhh

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

my spring break is right at the beginning of ST so I am going to go and see if I can’t charm Ely into a picture

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

totally random idea

if plan A is wink wink, why not make plan B us splitting a hotel room in Zony, if our Spring Breaks line up?

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like you two

are off by a week though you share the weekend of the 4th-6th.

Pictures and autographs are not hard to get but its better to do it before the games start since if a pitcher is going to pitch that day, he is not going to stop.

Actually JJ24 is even better at this since he does get pics and stuff.

Staying somewhere is really based on your budget and what level of hotel/motel you can stand. As for stuff to do, don’t ask Eric or myself, since he was generally either out at games, writing or sleeping and I was doing the same without the writing part.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I’ll have to get my own room, but we should definitely hit the games together Maddz

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be amazing

I would really enjoy that

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

hey Maddz

I’ll give you a break down of spring training and how to meet all the players when I get back home tonight or tomorrow.

I’ll try to post a fanpost closer to ST with some helpful hints.

Also, I suggest priceline or hotwire for hotels. You can get a 3 or 4 star hotel in the phoenix area for $40-75 that way.

In the meantime, my wife and I are on the way to the Valley View Casino with the sole intent of eating their buffet. Wish me luck in the backwoods of San Diego county.

by JJ 24 on Dec 27, 2010 5:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Woof

It’s more expensive to fly from Nashville to Phoenix than it is to fly rom Nashville to Los Angeles. Interesting.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha MORE GUFF?!

Yeah though I guess we don’t line up :(

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

that wasn’t guff, that was a realistic guess at what’s going on : )

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I went last year, but I stayed kinda far away

I was no further than 15 feet away from Kershaw…I was too nervous to ask for his autograph, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a decent deal

Does this guy even have a chance, as a left-hander, of getting some cups of coffee at the major league level? Weren’t we all hoping to add some LH depth?

by UC.Clipper on Dec 27, 2010 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

He has as

good a chance as Leach did but we don’t have to protect him this year.

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m always down with acquiring more Italians.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

People at Mets Blog all like this deal.

Haha.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Their backup middle infielders last year were Ruben Tejada, Alex Cora, Joaquin Arias, Luis Hernandez, and Justin Turner.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Those 5

combined for .212/.285/.289 in 531 PA in 2010

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad players are always greener

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Simon

of Amazin Avenue said this of Antonini:

Antonini is a finesse lefty with good control but little in the way of strikeout prowess. If he were a ground ball pitcher then he might be a poor man’s Jon Niese, but he’s a fly ball pitcher and overall not very projectable.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

He’s a left handed Ely. Wonderful.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than a right handed Ely.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

if he's hot

then I’m all for it

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

If Antonini even makes once start for us, the season will obviously be dying on the shitter.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Cant wait to see what his ERA ends up being in the PCL after that description.

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He will get lit up like Josh Towers in the PCL.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers must be comfortable with Carroll, Uribe, and Furcal being able to handle all 162 SS starts.

However, if this trade means that the Dodgers just chose Juan Castro over Hu…then its dumb. If its Russ Mitchell instead of Hu…then I guess thats fine.

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Whats the chance Xavier Paul gets moved next? Now there is a better chance that Mitchell stays. This also means that a spot on the 40 man roster is free which would allow us to get a LF which is probably our next move.

by dodgers4life on Dec 27, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Paul sticks around until spring. Mitchell has 3 full options so he’s not going anywhere.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious where Gwynn will bat

I hope Mattingly will not want this OBP disaster at the top of the lineup. Torre would have put him there, though.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

Hopefully he is not starting and we get a good LF.

by dodgers4life on Dec 27, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

No good LF out there, dude.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking he’d hit every day around 5:30 and not again until 9:25

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers must love them some juan castro. Also typing on a smart phone is hard.

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 3:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You’ll get used to it.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I got your shirt back in return mail today!

My wife screwed something up in shipping. I’m sending it tomorrow. Should be there by the weekend.

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha. No worries. In time for the Sugar Bowl is good enough!

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Also didn’t realize that true blue la had it’s own mobile site.

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 3:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

or it could be his hair? Because he had no hair at all!

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 27, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I should have read that first paragraph instead of just cutting and pasting. I voted for McDonald.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it could be that his head rug wasn’t screwed glued on just right

low blow, I know, but couldn’t resist fixing that for ya.

by LA Taco on Dec 27, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Brewers are really going for it with Greinke and Saito, I guess.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

Way more fun than trading Prince Fielder for B prospects and winning 75 games.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

They can do that at the trading deadline.

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 3:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They can do that at the trading deadline.

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 3:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

haha

NL Central odds to win the W.S.

1. Cardinals 20-1
2. Reds 25-1
3. Brewers 30-1
4. Cubs 35-1
5. Astros 75-1
6. Pirates 150-1

and just for funzies…

NL West Odds to win W.S.
1. Giants 12-1
2. Rockies 20-1
3. Dodgers 30-1
4. Padres 40-1
5. DBacks 80-1

and also for some more funzies.

Phillies 7-2
Yankees 6-1
Red Sox 9-2
Rays 20-1
Rangers 20-1

Odds courtesy of BoDog. In general there is very little value in “futures” bets like these. There was the Devil Rays that one year though… but let’s not go there! :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 27, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Way too generous on the Giants

Their offense isn’t going to catch lightening twice (outside Posey)

by UC.Clipper on Dec 28, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I think so

but keep in mind that the path to the W.S. in the NL is easier than in the AL. That helps boost their odds, but the Giants will have their hands full just winning the NL West over the Rockies and Dodgers.

by Xeifrank on Dec 28, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If I could I'd probably wager some money

which means its probably good that I can’t. At 30-1, I’d put $20-50 on M’wawkee. If they’re viewed as the third best team in the NL Central and the odds were long, I’d put a chunk of change on winning the division. If I didn’t have to tie up money, I’d be tempted to bet against the Cards going to the WS. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were out of the running by the ASB.

by Salty on Dec 28, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Brewers make the World Series

let alone win it, I will sing a Bruce Springsteen song in blue body paint at TBLA Karaoke XXIV.

by Xeifrank on Dec 28, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I got some ear phones with in-line remote for xmas. They are pretty good.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

Just a follow up to Post-season play droughts

The current longest streak of NBA non-playoff appearance is 6 years (Minnesota and New York), in the NHL it is for the Florida Panthers (11 years), aside from Florida, the every team has made it if you go back to 2004.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

Does the NHL draw serious money in the U.S.? Nobody watches it on TV.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody watches it?

Sounds like you and your friends don’t watch it on TV.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Exaggeration. But I’m just comparing it to the Big 3.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I think NHL fans can come up with a way which presents it as stronger than the NBA and vice versa. In any case, I think it’s closer than you give it credit for.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The ratings or the game itself?

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The ability to “draw serious money” in the U.S.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well in this one regard

currently as far as network tv goes, they do not pay the NHL for the rights fees, network covers production costs, NHL gets 80/20 split on ad sales.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

How does that compare

to the NBA?

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

TNT and ESPN/ABC combine to pay the NBA roughly $930 million per year on the current deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 4:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Last reports

NHL gets about 110M per year for National broadcasts, NBA receives 910M a year.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly did not realize that it would be a controversial point to say that professional basketball is more popular than professional hockey (in the USA.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s more regional. You live in Los Angeles, home of the Yankees of the NBA. I expect if you live in Minnesota, Detroit, Pittsburgh or Philadelphia the opinion is different.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And Tampa Bay

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The Bucs and Rays are good young teams. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

But they need more folks in the stands

The Rays were clustered near the bottom third of baseball teams in attendance and the Bucs were 31st out of 32 teams (Oakland was last) in attendance.

The Lightening are also just over 80% tickets sold per home game.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

RSN NHL ratings

Hockey is an acquired taste, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit are among your leaders.

One thing is pretty sure, unless you are planning to have the Lakers anchor your RSN, you probably are not going to be able to sell a non-Fox RSN in LA (Dodger station in my opinion is a non-starter).

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Detroit is hockey town.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That Florida Panthers number is shocking. 4,000 people watching a hockey game on TV.

Infomercials draw better.

The Kings and Ducks numbers are poor but at least they’ve both improved 50% and the Kings are probably doing better numbers this season. Or I would hope.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If by regional you mean

in a few places hockey is more popular then sure. Come on, 930 million vs 110 million tells the tale all by itself.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 29, 2010 1:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Everything is controversial on TBLA. As I said before at a minimum two sides to every story.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Each year NFL teams each

make over $90M from the 4 TV networks or more.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wonder if this means anything for dejesus. If you don.t think he is a starter, might as make him a UI guy right now.

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 3:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Mattingly seems like him from reading his AFL interviews. I think he spends most of the year in ABQ but will eventually get called-up for spot starts.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect him to get regular reps in AAA, with Uribe in the fold for three years I’d like to see them play him at SS/2nd since you can’t just keep re-signing the Juan Castro’s of the world. I expect him to get flipped at the deadline for a relief pitcher.

His future is Jose Vizcaino. At one time the Dodgers had two middle infield prospects, Vizcaino and Offerman. Management was enamored with Offerman’s speed and gave him the SS gig and Vizcaino the heave ho. I expect the same thing to happen here.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

So would a relief pitcher be fair value?

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 4:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Maddz, if you're still out there

I stayed here twice last season and was perfectly satisfied:

Red Roof Inn
 
5215 W Willetta St., Phoenix – (602) 233-8004

It’s maybe 10 miles from Camelback and about 7 from Chase Field.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Dec 27, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

excellent

thanks!

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Still catching up

Last week, Phil pinned the Dodgers success in ’11, in part to “the core showing up,” which he defined this way:

Loney – 280/340/.420
Andre – 280/360/480
Kemp – 300/330/480

I will note that the Zips projections for those three are:

Loney — .279 .338 .416
Ethier — .280 .360 .480 (right on the money!)
Kemp — .271 .327 .458

Which means, basically, if the core can merely meet their projections, ya gotta like the team’s chances. If you agree with Phil. (Yeah, Kemp has to outperform his projection a bit.)

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

That is of course based on the presumption the pitching does what we expect them to do. I think if the core does not repeat the 2nd half of 2010 but instead meets those projections we have a decent shot at competing for a post season berth, but so much has to go right for us.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

How do bad OBP teams fare historically? Goes without saying that this Dodger squad has a chance to be dreadful in that category.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants won

a World Championship:)

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll go check

but the 1988 team had to be pretty bad with the exception of Gibby and Marshall.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The White Sox won with a team OBP of .322

Only Konerko (.375) and Podboy over (.351) over .350

Uribe at .301 is what kept that team together.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No one else this decade

had a bad OBP but that is two teams with a sub .325 OB who have World Championships in the last six years so do we have a chance?

Yes we do.

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

In 1988

the NL average OBP was .310, the Dodgers were at .305, overall the NL OPS+ was 93, the Dodgers were at 90. They scored the league average total amount of runs and gave up about .5 earned run less per game than the league.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Garrett Wittels draft stock probably just plunged...

http://www.fanhouse.com/2010/12/27/garrett-wittles-fiu-baseball-star-charged-with-rape/?synd=1

If you’re an American in a foreign country (especially one that relies on American tourisim dollars)…you have to really mess up to get charged with something. Most foreign governments dont like charging Americans with anything due to bad tourism publicity.

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

A town without pity

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by meercatjohn on Dec 27, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny to see Steve Phillips’ face in a story about sex.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

And with the second pick of the 2011 draft the Seattle Mariners pick Garrett Wittels!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Also I think I’m going to avoid reading the comments on that article.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 27, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

KeithC13 will be very upset if this is true
Michael Wittels, whose telephone appeared to be disconnected later Monday, told the newspaper that his son and his friends met the two girls at a casino and they later went to a private party. The girls apparently described themselves as students at the University of Arkansas, he said

Story link

by bhsportsguy on Dec 27, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it Sadie Hawkins Day?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 27, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

High school basketball sucks in Alaska

Sample size of one (with apologies to Trajan Langdon).

Palm Springs High School today beat a team in a tournament in Alaska by the score of 73-16.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 4:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Boozer wasn’t bad.

by oshea2002 on Dec 27, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Forgot he was from the great north.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Tha Alaskan Assasin is a great nickname

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

especially when he says his catch phrase after each kill, “You’re out cold.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither: it is a documented fact that people in Alaska are 100% Merkin. Don’t hate them just because they can see Russia and Canada from their houses.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

the fact that they’re made of pubic wigs isn’t um, weird?

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

JUST BECAUSE SOME OF US NEVER WENT THROUGH PUBERTY DOESN’T MEAN ANY OF US HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE SHAME OF BALD GENITALS

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Bald genitals are huge in parts of SoCal, no?

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

By which she means

The Valley.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

God dammit that is not true

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

oh wait

I get what this conversation is about. Christ Jesus I need sleep.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just sad because I grew up in the Valley.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and because you are crabby.

Not, y’know, “crabby.” Just, y’know, crabby.

Because of the lack of sleep.

Y’know.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the crabby thing is genetic. I’m a porch chair away from yelling “GET OFF MY LAWN!”

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, lawns are nice. You work hard and all you want is to sit in your chair with your gin and tonic and look at your HEY YOU GODDAM KIDS YOUR FUCKIN BIKES ARE RUININ MY LAWN

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

1 thing I like about Canada….

Dino Dan!

My daughters new favorite cartoon.

“Look Daddy! It’s a giant T-Rex.”

I hear that 30 times a day…

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought his catch phrase had something to do with Alaska being an oil/energy producing state?

Wrong Alaskan?

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like to say that some of you people are bastards

You know who you are, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

that describes most of us i think

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith!

I haven’t seen you in like 2 weeks on here. Or maybe I haven’t noticed, I’m not sure which, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Next up, dodgers trade for another reliever

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 5:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Looks like you’re having fun with your phone. It must be new.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Galaxy s samsung

by Tripon on Dec 27, 2010 5:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Belated farewell to Hu

I wish him the best of luck. Was a disappointment to me.

As a film nerd I would’ve preferred the Dodgers trade for Michelangelo Antonioni but I guess this will do.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 27, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

Dodgers offense this year

could be a L’Avventura. I can see Mattingly wandering a Red Desert of ennui and alienation.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 27, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

With hopefully a minimum of Blow Ups.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 27, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I appreciate the word “ennui”

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m fighting vainly the urge to quote the Cole Porter lyric that uses that word.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

loving both the word and Cole Porter

I say you should go for it.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My story is much too sad to be told
But practically everything leaves me totally cold
The only exception I know is the case
When I’m out on a quiet spree
Fighting vainly the old ennui
And I suddenly turn and see
Your fabulous face

That’s the verse. Then it goes into the refrain, which you’ll know…

I get no kick from champagne…..

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! My sriracha friend sang that for his singing test for jazz band one year…he got an A- (I did too, but i sang Blue Ronda la Turk by Brubeck…that was exhausting)

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The verses of his songs get performed so rarely. That’s one of the things I like about the Ella Fitzgerald songbooks.

My favorite Cole Porter verse is from Just One of Those Things:

As Dorothy Parker once said to her boyfriend, “Fare thee well.”
As Columbus announced when he knew he was bounced, “It was swell, Isabelle, swell.”
As Abelard said to Heloise, “Don’t forget to drop a line to me, please.”
As Juliet cried in her Romeo’s ear, “Romeo, why not face the facts my dear.”
It was just one of those things….

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Dorothy Parker!!

I think my favorite Cole Porter song is Love For Sale.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Love for Sale verse:

When the only sound on the empty street
is the heavy tread of the heavy feet
that belong to a lonesome cop
I open shop

The moon so long has been gazing down
on the wayward ways of this wayward town
my smile becomes a smirk,
I go to work

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I should say

it’s my favorite because Miles (I think it’s Miles, anyway) does a samba version of it that’s just fantastic.

Can that be my mulligan? I wish I didn’t stop playing the trumpet.

/two-sevenths

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

also

I was asking Maddz Daddz about it (I am TBLAing in the living room) and he was like, “Really? You didn’t know that LOVE FOR SALE WAS ABOUT PROSTITUTION?!”

Now we’re listening to it.

I also highly recommend ‘Round Midnight. But that’s by Monk.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I am totally with Maddz Daddz on this one.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, well

I’m not very smart.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We all have our holes.

In our knowledge! We all have our holes in our knowledge! DON’T YOU TWSS ME!

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Awww shucks. Foiled again!

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s what the Doctor Said?

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Dominatrix, I’m working out the details of foiling in my head

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

wouldn’t that be more what a hairdresser says?

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

first outside inside last

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 28, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

bahahaha

my brother just walked out of his room, half-asleep.

Maddz Daddz: Hey Maddz Brah, if there was a song called “Love For Sale”, what do you think it’d be about.
Maddz Brah: Prostitution
Maddz Daddz: SEE?!

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that he said, “IF there was a song…” as if there wasn’t one.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

oh he knows it’s a song, I think he has like 5 versions of it.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I know he does. It’s just… “If there was…”

Oh, never mind.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha :)

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how your family refers to each other by their character names.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

We aim to please.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

rondo not ronda

jeepers, i’m like 2/7 awake right now

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably better than trading for Vito Andolini at least.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

But it might have been an offer we couldn’t refuse.

by prosellis on Dec 27, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oroweat makes some killer Italian bread.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

How do you or can you..

post pics? Cause I can show you how as a 14 year old star baseball player I promptly quit and never played again. And no one here would blame me.

by Jason Ungar on Dec 27, 2010 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

A little bummed about Hu

I never expected much after his brief stints in MLB, but I always pulled for him to somehow notch out a Juan Castro like existence with the Dogers.

In a slightly related note: Is there any truth to Hu and Kuo being the only Taiwanese players with homers in the majors? Someone told me that once and I thought, “Hey cool.” but never actually checked.

by prosellis on Dec 27, 2010 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

He could still have a Castro existence with the Dodgers

10 years from now we may have signed him five different times to be our backup infielder after he builds up his PVL with other teams.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 27, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t we decide that Juan Castro is the single worst player in baseball history to have a career longer than some X number of games?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

wasn’t that number 3?

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was the third-worst hitter, and that when defense was included, he was numero uno. But I could be wrong.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re probably right; I’m absolutely exhausted.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s second, after Dave Flynn.

I’m pretty sure Castro is the only guy ever to never have a positive WAR.

This topic is very important to me.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 28, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You don't think

Hu can be number one?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 27, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I don’t know if he can. He’s certainly a terrible hitter, but if his defense is as good as advertised — and I have no reason to doubt that — he would have to be, by far, the worst hitter in baseball history, and yet still stick around on a major league roster.

If for any reason he can stick around, based on his defense, I certainly think he has a chance to be a very poor hitter.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool time lapse photography of the Eastern Snow storm

I love time lapse photography for stuff like that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 27, 2010 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

So earlier today I posted on FB a taunt to my back-east family and friends about how beautiful today’s weather was.

One of my parent’s friends — probably 64, 65 years old — replied, “At least I don’t live in the land of fruits and nuts.”

Question: am I humorless, or is that really kinda offensive?

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

East Coasters don’t have souls, so you have to factor that in

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

well, you can apply the rule of the internet

and just remember that since nuance is completely gone, it might have been meant in jest, but didn’t come across that way.

My favorite is to respond “You know, the thing I appreciate most about you is your tolerance and respect for people of different lifestyles.”

Because then they have no idea how to respond. But I’m kind of a jackass.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Wake me up when you’re 25 ;)

by kinbote on Dec 27, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Why, so you can go out in public with me and know that the chance I’ll wear sweatpants isn’t 75/25 in favor of the sweatpants?

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know about you, kinbote, but me —

I was much more of a jackass before I turned 30. I was prone to outrageous comments, in the name of humor, that would provoke a reaction.

I don’t do that anymore, but I am much, much more of an intolerant asshole than I ever was then.

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz Daddz has perfected the art of being a jackass. I am nothing if not my father’s daughter. :)

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If being a jackass should fail you, have you considered intolerant assholery? It’s done wonders for me.

/drinks gin alone

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well, if teaching/phd doesn't go through

I’ll go into law school and hone my intolerant asshole skills

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Ryan

That was only his second loss EVER at the Georgia Dome.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

Three years does not warrant capitalization.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Does NOT would’ve been awesoke.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it! Missed opportunity.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably would have been better to say “second loss IN THREE YEARS in the Georgia Dome.”

That would have been fine, but “ever” (or “EVER”) implies quite a long time.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA: Where You Can Get Into Mild Disagreements About Capitalization And/Or Whether Hockey Is Or Isn’t As Popular As Basketball

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by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the important thing to remember is MLS will outdraw hockey in three years

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The important thing to remember is

Soccer is really boring. I love the part in Superbad when Michael Cera’s character is in PE and playing soccer, but just standing around doing nothing. One of his teammates goes “come on man, you let the ball go right past you!” Michael Sera just says “Relax Greg it’s just soccer.”

Good shit

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

South Park

did do a whole episode about how boring baseball is

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

oh come on, there was no shit, just an observation that fouling someone behind the arc with the continuation rule in place down by three is funny!

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckily it's not to me, so I don't care :)

The same thing should apply to you, fuck what I or anyone else thinks. I’m just some asshole named 4iron on the interwebs.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You missed your chance to put that capitalized sentence into the title, like Canuck does. Just saying…

by berkowit28 on Dec 28, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

for example

“I may live in LA, but this is only my second time EVER at Disneyland.”

Loses its impact if you’re three years old

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The impact gap would be filled by the fact that a three year old would be commenting on TBLA.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Drats. You’ve outed me.

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

and that’s a rec

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by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember those bastards I was refering to up there

You are one of them.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

hahah

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Farging Bastidges!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 28, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Nitpicky group tonight. :)

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

COME TO A TBLA NIGHT

sorry, haven’t done that in a while, needed to get it out my system

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

When I turned over to check on the Clipper game, it was 96-87 LA. It got real there for a second.

But is now 100-97 with five seconds left.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Clippers have it locked up with that score.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The Clippers game notes the last few games have been listing the top NBA dunkers this season BTW

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

did they have a foul to give and he just mistimed it?

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what he was thinking, other than he thought he was inside the arc….

They did not have a foul to give

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, a foul on a three-point attempt.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers now 9-9 since the 1-13 start.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

aw man, that game was funny, like two boxers wearing mittens

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers have won 5 of 6.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and 3 straight road games.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going on Wednesday.

Unbelievably, the Clippers entered tonight only 6.5 games out of the last playoff spot and it’s still 2010.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers beat the Bulls sort of like this.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:29 PM PST reply actions  

Of course Evans has to miss here.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think both scores were 100-99 and ended the same way.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You are correct. This time the Kings got the rebound though….

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

man

my family is watching a House Hunters set in Nashville, TN and it TYPIFIES the difference between west coast chicks and the southern belles I go to school with. My parents keep laughing at me.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

I saw that one

she was a-twangy

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Dec 27, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I can watch about 300 episodes of that on Hulu Plus

no thats not an exageration. Whats more impressive is the oldest episode is from like 2007/8

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 28, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently

Miley Syrus smaked Salvia, which folk are calling pot, but is not at all pot

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

is salvia still legal?

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course it is. I am making some in my mouth right now. I have a gland that does that.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that’s saliva. :)

I’ve heard mixed things about salvia — some friends think it’s awesome, others recoil in horror.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I was convinced an alien was sitting on my chest, never again

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

far as I know, though it’s really the “downing three bottles of cough syrup” of highs available at your local smoke shop

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

does downing three bottles of cough syrup give you a 10-15 minute hallucination? If so, then yes.

The new thing the kids are smoking is called “spice” and surprise surprise, no one out here knows what the hell it is.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s about that short, and then your insides get really mad at you.

Didn’t know about spice. I guess I’m not cool anymore. In my day we ate belladonna to earn a trip to the emergency room after brief hallucination

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s getting made illegal out in TN and the like but I guess when you live in TN you smoke all sorts of shit because it’s fuck-off boring if you aren’t 21.

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine much fun can be had by getting an adult to buy you Keystone Light, then drinking said Stones, then shooting the empties with your pellet gun

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Same thing with Lucky Draft. Only with Lucky, you get the anagrams in the bottle cap.

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 28, 2010 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Spice?

isn’t that a drug in the Star Wars universe?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

HE'S A WITCH

BURN HIM

Also, he has kinda had a deleterious effect on American cinema of the past quarter-century, so burn him for that, too.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

double burn

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

it is

it is indeed :)

(glitterstim being the most potent/illegal)

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i just remember

Boba Fett killing some dude under the pretense of buying it off him.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

the Kings are up 3-0 on the Sharks, but no one watches Hockey in America

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

I was watching at halftime

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Never mind

I thought you were making an “Americans don’t know hockey” joke, but I realize now you meant halftime of the Clipper game.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, halftime of the Clipper game.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If it helps, I’m not taking back the rec!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 27, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Isnt their a smoking hot Kings reporter?

I watched the post-game one time and she looked as good or better than Erin Andrews

by SeanMillerSavior on Dec 27, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The clue that gave that one away: hockey doesn’t have half time. It has third times.

by berkowit28 on Dec 28, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m loving this. Underdog haz a sad though.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I say that ironically. I grew up with the Mighty Ducks movies, and I love listening to Bob Miller

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the LA Blades!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 28, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

ha

i went to a Blades game once.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 28, 2010 6:29 AM PST up reply actions  

The Sharks can bite me

;-)

man they looked bad though. Oh well, they’ll make the playoffs, only to choke in them as usual. Meh.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 27, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oh that’s right, you’re a sharks fan. that’s why alex was loving it and you have a sad. cause you like evil or whatever. man i completely misread that.

by Josie Becker on Dec 28, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Liking the Sharks is liking evil?

It’s more like liking perpetual disappointment and mediocrity.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 29, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Says the soccer fan ;)

Taylor Morgan: "My abortion was botched!"
Teemu Selanne: "Wow. That sounds awesome."

by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 27, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone has to support the fringe sports, like the NFL circa 1955

by Josie Becker on Dec 28, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

NFC playoff picture
  • ATL should smash the Panthers next week and lock up the #1 seed
  • I think Seattle sucks ass and will lose at home with Whitehurst at QB to the Rams
  • That sets up STL for a loss at home to Drew Brees in Round 1
  • It will be interesting to see if CHI lays down this week against GB
  • If that happens, the Pack could meet Vick in a first round shootout

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

Why would CHI lay down?

Assuming PHI wins tomorrow (and they will) CHI would lay down instead of playing for a first round bye. Win next week, and Chicago wins their first playoff game.

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Lay down = rest starters. Don’t know if that happens, just throwing shit at the wall.

by silverwidow on Dec 27, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what it means, I’m asking why on earth they would do that.

Rest starters, then play an extra game?

by Michael White on Dec 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no way the Bears would rest.
Its a rivalry game and they’d want to knock the Packers out of the playoff hunt.

Whats interesting is the likely rematch of the Bears-Pack the very next week assuming the Eagles win out.

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Chicago

Owns tiebreaker over Philadelphia

by bhsportsguy on Dec 28, 2010 1:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Packers/Eagles is a great first round game.

by Alex41592 on Dec 27, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

What I think will happen:

Packers will beat the Bears (clinching #6 seed)
Eagles will win their final 2 at home (Vikings and Cowboys)
Falcons will beat the Panthers.
Rams will beat the Seahawks

  1. - Falcons
  2. - Eagles
  3. Bears vs #6 Packers (rematch of previous week)
  4. Rams vs #5 Saints

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I always liked Hu. He reminded me of the little contortionist dude from Oceans 11. He shall be missed.

by UCLADodger32 on Dec 27, 2010 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

I can’t cry for Hu. I’m filing him as a “never was.”

by kinbote on Dec 27, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

50 years from now, Chin-Lung Hu will best be mis-remembered for his bat flip. But Bob Timmermann III will be there to remind everybody that it was Kuo.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Bob Timmermann III a North Korean dictator?

by kinbote on Dec 27, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I sure hope so. That is an entertaining world.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Dec 27, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

HANS BLIX

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

HANS BRIX

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

My application was rejected.

by Bob Timmermann on Dec 27, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I always hated Hu.

He reminded me of the dude who sucked when playing baseball.

:)

by keithc13 on Dec 27, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings color man

just used soccer to illustrate a point about hockey offsides. We’re officially through the looking glass people

by Josie Becker on Dec 27, 2010 9:49 PM PST reply actions  

just don’t fuck around with the sorcerer’s paintbrush……all kinds of bad shit could happen

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS?

the square root of 69 is 8 something, right? cos i've been tryin' to work it out...

by Maddz on Dec 27, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

TWEMS

that’s what Epic Mickey said

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 27, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

my brother got Epic Mickey for christmas, it looks, dare I say, epic

by Josie Becker on Dec 28, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw 2 movies this weekend..

Up in the Air – i was bored. I thought it was dull, unemotional, and the ending was terrible. I dont know even know what you’d label this movie – its not a comedy, nor drama, nor romantic comedy…its just bad. I thought the acting was fine, but I cant believe critics gave it 90% of rotten tomatoes. I’d have rather watched a documentary about downsizing than this lifeless flick. 1.5 out of 5 stars.

She’s outta my league – Maybe its because i wasnt expecting much, but I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. It was entertaining, the dialogue was interesting. Its sort of Judd Apatow meets Kevin Smith movie. I’d give it 3.5 out of 5.

by Joey Joe on Dec 27, 2010 11:45 PM PST reply actions  

I watched that today

and I thought it was great for a comedy. It’s no Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Anchorman, or I Love You Man, but it was still a pretty funny movie.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 27, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

its not a comedy, nor drama, nor romantic comedy

You are right, its not any one of those, its all of them. It wasn’t as good as Reitmans other work but I enjoyed it, and I don’t think a movie has to have a happy ending for it to be a good ending.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 28, 2010 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

My opnion of those two movies

Is the complete opposite of yours. Pleasantly surprised with Up in the Air, outright bored with She’s Out of My League.

by Michael White on Dec 28, 2010 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Hated the female character after she revealed herself. Then the movie suddenly paralleled real life- What a waste.

by Freddy V on Dec 28, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Random Comment.......

I can’t watch NFL Football anymore. It’s way too boring, unless you really like the intense thought processes involved in throwing the coach’s protest flag. Everybody is too big, too fast and too smart. there is no chance of seeing a Bo Jackson, or Merlin Olsen, or Jim Brown anymore. They all blend together into one super-monster video game hero player, who can run through any tackle, throw any length pass, kick 60 yard field goals with ease and catch anything the quarterback releases. It reminds me of the Electric Football Game I had as a teenager…….takes 5 minutes to set up the play (by bending the little tabs on the bottoms of the players), then when you turn on the juice, the runner goes the wrong way. Frustrating!

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 28, 2010 12:31 AM PST reply actions  

No offense but...

you sound like you have watched 5 minutes of football in the last 10 years. Braylon Edwards would call you to tell you about how players still drop balls all the time, but Jacoby Jones fumbled the phone while trying to hand it to him. Do you know how many 60 yard field goals have been kicked this year? I’m pretty sure its less then 2. etc etc

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 28, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I’ve watched that much football. You see, I used to be a Rams fan………….

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 28, 2010 1:59 AM PST up reply actions  

If you put the O/U on 60 yard field goals at 2, I’d take the under.

by Michael White on Dec 28, 2010 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Watched football for a couple of years..

… then one day asked myself the question: “Do I want to kill all my Sundays for the rest of my life in front of the tube?” The answer was no, and I went cold turkey. As with basketball, the only time I take a look is if it’s on at a friend’s house. Baseball is the only sport I would really be unhappy doing without.

by Freddy V on Dec 28, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

NPUT

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/28/1899643/dodgers-minor-league-countdown-140-131

You can be (incompetent and a nice guy), you can be (competent and an asshole), but if you are an (asshole and incompetent), your only future is to be Keith's boss otherwise you are unemployable

by meercatjohn on Dec 28, 2010 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

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