Dodgers Finalize Barajas Deal, Continue To Pay Top Dollar For Outs (And Occasional Power)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 6:04 PM PST
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PrintThe Dodgers for the second time this week have paid a shocking amount of money to a OBP-challenged power hitter at a defensive premium position. Earlier in the week it was three years, $21 million for the career .300 (really .2998) OBP of Juan Uribe, and now the Dodgers have paid catcher Rod Barajas $3.25 million for his services in 2011, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times.
This quote from general manager Ned Colletti nicely encapsulates this week's worth of Dodger transactions:
"Much like Juan Uribe, we’ve seen that Rod can change the game with one swing and he’s a veteran catcher who knows how to handle a pitching staff. We’re looking forward to having him back with the team next season."
Rod Barajas had a great 25 games as a Dodger, hitting .297/.361/.578 with five home runs and 13 RBI. In those 25 games and 70 plate appearances, he matched the home run total of all other Dodger catchers combined in 578 PA (all five were hit by Russell Martin). However, it's important to consider that while Barajas had nice counting stats on the year (17 homers, 47 RBI), his OBP was still just .284, which matches his career OBP. I would say the bottom of the Dodger batting order next year will be full of automatic outs, but that's assuming the low OBPs of Barajas and Uribe will even be at the bottom of the order.
Barajas, like Hyman Roth, played this one beautifully. The Norwalk native loved playing at home, and all indications pointed to him returning to the Dodgers. However, Barajas wisely waited until the Dodgers decided what to do with Martin first. With Martin, Barajas was the backup, but without him, and with free agents John Buck, Yorvit Torrealba, A.J. Pierzynski, and the like signing elsewhere, Barajas had more leverage as the Dodgers' options dwindled. Then, literally minutes after Martin was non-tendered, the Barajas deal was first reported.
I'm shocked by the dollar amount, to be honest. Barajas made $500,000 last year, plus incentives (for a total of $1.4 million, per Ken Gurnick of MLB.com), and I figured he would get something like $2 million at most to return to the Dodgers. The payroll worksheet has been updated with the Barajas deal. Say what you will about the Dodgers, but they haven't been cheap this offseason. Have they been wise? We'll find out...
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Is it the money, it has to be the money because
you really are exchanging Martin’s youth and OBP for Barajas slugging pct.
Barajas was fortunate about the timing of arbitration offer and tender deadlines but even if those were a week from now, I don’t think the situation changes much.
Frankly it’s at least $1M less than Martin would have made and no one could have expected Russell to play more than 100 games next year at catcher.
So what are the odds that if we offered Barajas arbitration he would have accepted and made less?
Is there a bigger percent than 100?
It seems like most of the other FA catcher deals have been in the ~$3m per year at least. I could see Barajas making and winning a case for something like his $3.25m, given the 17 homers and whatnot.
It was reported that he was telling the Dodgers
that he was going to look at other teams. They could have called him on it but they decided not to. But my hunch considering what he made last year, he turns it down. What loss does he have.
They really are
My family is literally celebrating a birthday in Norwalk right now.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
This made me chortle...
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/12/3/1853846/sams-2011-offseason-plan#comments
$1 mil for Martin followed by posts only questioning whether that’s realistic. I think this just may have have made the best case for a fracking ban – clearly, something is wrong with the water they’re drinking.
by Christopher James on Dec 3, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions
It's not like Martin has some good recent years to show anyone
His slugging pct was less than his OBP last year, two years ago he hit his first home run in June. Sure, its possible he rebounds from his injury but he was going to be overpriced if he gets $5-6M.
I will agree that the vast majority of our attachment to Martin was nostalgic. But I’m still shocked by the Barajas money.
Russell Martin is a
88 OPS+ hitter the last two seasons with no power, Barajas is probably around that with power.
Is either of them even worth $3.2M, I don’t know but there isn’t much to split the difference.
88 OPS+ without power is better than an 88 OPS+ with power. And Barajas has made it to 88 twice in 10 years
Why
I think one reason the Dodgers are going this way, frankly the offense stunk so bad last year, the idea of stringing batters on base to score runs seems unimaginable right now. And if Martin’s strength is OBP, were do you put him, 2nd?
A point of on base is worth more than a point of slug. If you do go with Barajas sure hell hit it out of the park 15-20 times but the guys after him aren’t gonna be able to create runs.
Is the problem
they don’t think that matters or that looking at the numbers, the Dodgers were not creating runs anyway?
I think Ned took that doof from the Giants saying “we proved money ball does t work” seriously. However little runs you scored with Russ, you’ll score less with Barajas.
Is that statement independent of what value of obp and slugging you’re at?
I mean, does the relative importance of obp and slugging vary with the actual values of obp and slugging?
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
You can tell me. I’m a doctor.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
but
did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
rockies interested in russ
if he plays in the NL west I am going to be so enraged. that would almost guarantee a bounce back year just to spite me. and us.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 3, 2010 6:22 PM PST reply actions
I still want Martin back. I’d hate to see him to go to the Rockies. I think he can bounce back next year if he plays less behind the plate which he can now can with Barajas signed. But Barajas is getting payed more than a backup C. I don’t want Ellis to be our backup. I hope they resign Martin for 1yr/3M.
Ned believes in sabermetrics!
Fangraphs listed Barajas’ year last year to make $4.9 mill, Ned believed he made a bargain!
I won't post it here
But Mark Medina of the LA Times is doing yeomen’s work in his Laker girl profile series, and today’s installment has a picture that, if you click on it, might just be the largest-resolution picture on the entire World Wide Web.
You should post it here as a joke.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I clicked the + to enlarge
and it jumped right to the cleavage. It was hilarious.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
This officially calls for some department store music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOJP1g5bmm4
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, don't knock George Benson.
That is some quality booty-bumping music.
Tell me about it.
Or better yet tell my kids about it.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
I have solved our Catcher predicament!
We get Mike Scoliosis to catch. Playing for the Dodgers is better than managing the Angels.
Excellent....
…at the moment. Until they rebuild that farm system at least, which judging by the 50 foot solid gold Brandon Wood statue they had built out in Rancho Cucamonga, that might take a little while.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
IDK
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
this is why
you’re the Rudder, Josie
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
I told you several weeks
ago that Ned saying he can spend money this winter was not the best news. As Kensai has shown before that when Ned has been allowed to spend money he does so foolishly.
I would call this foolish.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Barajas
sure got paid like a starter. Dodgers might lead the N.L in solo HR’s and last in walks.
Dodgers4Life - we get the point we need a LF
are you going to suggest this every post you make?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No,
I just noticed a trend of every comment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Are you watching the game?
Nice to Kaman and Baron back, looks like a real team now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Missed most of the first half. I see Kaman is having a nice game.
Yup, they are going toe to toe with a legit team on the road. Call me a homer, but the Clippers are simply not a bad team.
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Kenley Jansen
Maybe Jansen can play LF. I can’t stress enough the importance of Kenley Jansen and the postion of Left Field.
KENLEY JANSEN!!!
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
I wish Tripon was around right now
because I’d love to hear what he has to say about this signing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My guess is it would be in all caps and include a curse word.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
not quite yet
Needs at least one of the following on his resume:
1) A memorable postseason hit or game, leading to a World Series championship (Juan Pierre, Juan Uribe, Rod Barajas, Jon Garland)
2) Another 5 years.
Who the hell knows,
who knew he had the money to spend $7 million on Uribe, $5 on Garland, $3.2 on a piece of shit catcher. This is now $15 Million on one for sure lousy player, a pitcher whose MRI scared others into our laps and on his best day is simply an innings eater, and a guy who could easily revert to the POS he was two years ago.
Go Ned Go
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was all for a Barajas/Ellis platoon at around $2M, but I have to admit that this really getting ridiculous. I am a little scared of what Ned is going to do next.
by OB12 on Dec 3, 2010 7:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Anf here I thought...
…winning a world series with a offense made up of crappy players and Buster Posey wasn’t fashionable.
Garrett Anderson comeback anyone?
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
the word anf
I meant to say, GA at 6 mil 2 years anyone?
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Its obvious he has some short term flexability
but can’t sign any long term deals? Or he is an idiot. Or both.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What is irritating
is that we waste so much time trying to save Ned money so he can fill the other positions, and he just doesn’t care.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I feel bad for you guys
Barajas is awful
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Great
love the sympathy vote from other teams.
He was awesome for us in Sept so he will be extra crap next year to make up for it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Barajas
you know, he really really wanted to be in LA. did we really need to give him a jillion dollars?
I miss Russell Martin already! I’m a late Dodger fan, as in, I learned my blood was Dodger blue in 2006…and for that time, Martin was my catcher. I will miss him.
Must be
If Rod got 3.2 Martin is long gone.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm going to play the it's not my money card
and not fret over this signing.
Plus it was probably pretty much Barajas’ agent telling Ned “you want catcher don’t you? You just kicked Martin to the curb. So here’s the going rate.”
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I'm alternating now
from disbelief to your sentiment…overspending only affects the team when it prevents you from shoring up other positions. We don’t know what’s gonna happen next, so I’m reserving any condemnation of this move. But it makes it hard to defend when it’s a 35-year-old journeyman as your starting catcher.
The only explanation: He’s a one-time world champion. Ring in a fuckin’ box.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
10 LA Dodger catchers have hat an OBP under .300 (min 300 PA)
Rk Player OBP OPS+ PA Year Age G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO HBP SF BA SLG OPS
1 Steve Yeager .256 75 366 1983 34 113 335 31 68 8 3 15 41 23 57 1 1 .203 .379 .635
2 Charles Johnson .279 70 376 1998 26 102 346 31 75 13 0 12 35 29 99 1 0 .217 .358 .638
3 Steve Yeager .282 81 346 1979 30 105 310 33 67 9 2 13 41 29 68 0 2 .216 .384 .665
4 Mike Scioscia .286 63 389 1992 33 117 348 19 77 6 3 3 24 32 31 1 3 .221 .282 .568
5 Steve Yeager .286 83 399 1976 27 117 359 42 77 11 3 11 35 30 84 7 2 .214 .354 .640
6 Jason Phillips .287 71 434 2005 28 121 399 38 95 20 0 10 55 25 50 4 4 .238 .363 .650
7 John Roseboro .289 75 480 1965 32 136 437 42 102 10 0 8 57 34 51 2 4 .233 .311 .601
8 John Roseboro .291 90 518 1963 30 135 470 50 111 13 7 9 49 36 50 3 7 .236 .351 .642
9 Todd Hundley .295 86 428 1999 30 114 376 49 78 14 0 24 55 44 113 4 3 .207 .436 .731
10 Steve Yeager .298 82 515 1975 26 135 452 34 103 16 1 12 54 40 75 8 6 .228 .347 .646
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 12/3/2010.
Sugar Britches
could really use the brush.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Is Martin X'ed out in that picture?
How come I never noticed before???
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
you didn't have a smiley
how were we to know :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
catcher gear on
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Just like Cody Ross and Jason Werth were the artist of....
…oh wait!? I just made myself sad. :(
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Damn Nov 24 baseball players they all suck at hitting
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Todd Hundley
I once had him hit for 107 HRs on All-Star Baseball 2000 at the hardest difficulty. Got Kevin Brown the CY Young award that same year, too.
Man I hated Hundley
Met him a couple times too. His wife was pretty nuts.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Eric
You and Jon seemed fairly certain that another catcher would be signed, this kind of money means that Rod is the starting catcher and whoever is signed is just some Bako clone who is strictly depth. Right now Left Field is the last spot to upgrade. If it is only Podboy this will be the least enthused about the starting group as I’ve been since 2003.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
just out of curiosity
what could Ned do at the Winter Meetings to restore your faith Phil?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Well let's not give him an impossible task to meet
but I like MW’s WIllingham idea. That or Gardner or someone like that and I’ll still overall be happy with the offseason.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Addressing a position of need with a reasonable trade target would be a nice showing
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bradley and Aybar
He’s gettin the band back together.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
It is shot
I shouldn’t even be blogging. It is not Rod simply the whole deal from April of this year till now. I think I’ll just step away until after the winter meetings.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think they are going wity Barajas and Ellis, but we will probably see another minor league catcher signed for depth. All that talk about Martin, in whatever capacity is just lip service.
by OB12 on Dec 3, 2010 7:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Need serious OBP
Dodgers for LF need to find the best OBP player available. If Bradley was together I wouldn’t mind him at all but he ain’t coming back. The Swisher or Gardner idea is a good one, Willingham would also be interesting.
thought it was kittens?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Eric is the reason
that there are noooooooooooo cats in America!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
streets
it was just on. Otherwise, Highfive Josie.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
my mom used to sing that for me and my brother before bedtime
I got choked up a little watching it. (my mom is fine, nostalgia just punched me in the gut.)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
San Quentin
you’ve been living hell to meeeeeeeee
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
SERIOUSLY?
YOU WERE A HALF MIL FROM MAKING IT WORK WITH MARTIN AND THEN YOU GIVE BARAJAS 3.25 MILLION?!
COME ON!!!!
Now with 33% more Kavula
makes you want to switch from Gin
to Absinth?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
makes me wonder
if Ned does
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
I got a bottle of that stuff
my sister brought over from France. I have to figure out what to do with it. Apparently you don’t drink it straight. It’s Everclear strong.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
there’s a whole ritual involving pouring water over a spoon with a sugar cube on it. I can help you out if you want ; )
Count Dracula
knows all about it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
logic says: they really didn’t want to make a deal with Russel, but have an interest in looking like they did
Ya, think? Russel isn’t that loved anymore. Particularly since the injury provided them with quite a bit of cover.
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
why else would you leak the next day how close you were, before throwing the GDP of Kansas at Barajas?
I guess. The money with Rod is madness. But you could call it a panic move. “Oh shit, Russ is a free agent and the Red Sox and Yankees want him. Must lock up Barajas!”
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you Gob Kavula
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
7 minute
abs?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well this is a bit depressing
But wasn’t the 2011 season suppose to be a downer anyway?
Furcal
Kemp
LF
Ethier
Loney
Blake
Uribe
Barajas
P
It will compete a lineup that of the Giants, but unless the Rockies’ pitchers completely bails on them, they look like the clear cut winners of the division. I don’t believe the Giants and Padres will have the magical power that they had last season.
Mike, we don’t have the pieces to get Willingham.
We don’t? Bummer. Have you heard a type of package they are looking for?
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think everyone is missing what is truly important here.
April the 4’th. Presented by State Farm
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Josie
just FYI but kids love soccer. I was subbing a 6th grade class and a handful of students were flipping out over Landon Donovan being ranked #50 on ESPN haha
Ya, pop warner is not popular because moms don’t want 8 year olds playing tackle football
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
No it isn’t
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
I know, but the schtick has to go both ways: you give, I say something snarky, you give something else, life goes on
na na na na
life goes on
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
soccer will never make it here. Sorry. Americans want to be the best at stuff and we pretty much have no shot at it here. It’s not just cause Kobe, Vick or whoever isn’t playing the sport. The game is nuanced at a level that will take multiple generations to really understand. If you ever went to a Brazilian practice you would agree. It’s just something they feel. Not learn.
Hockey has been pretty popular in the US
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
this ignores the fact that Americans play an English style of football not an Brazilian, Spanish, or Italian Style. Maybe it has something in common with the Germans too
I just used that country as example. There are alot of others as well. I hope I am wrong. But..I have been lucky enough to play teams from other countries as a youth and yes that was 20 years ago but there was a huge difference not just as individuals but as a team unit. The only chance IMO is that if we truly play an American style. One that has not been developed yet and turn the game on it’s foundations, but trying to keep up with the Germans or Argentina or Italy or whomever just won’t work. Again this is just my opinion. I think of it a bit like golf, in that they do stuff without thinking and we have to think about it. I know alot of folks thought we did good at the World Cup and I thought we were pathetic. So maybe I am too tough.
The American style consists of kids running in one big flock, all kicking the ball at once.
May confuse the Brazilian defense.
multiple generations does not equal “never”, plus it depends how you define “make it”…I don’t see it being the main sport in the US in my lifetime, but that doesn’t mean it can’t co-exist with the other majors, especially if the US wins a WC.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I feel like we’re just now seeing the intended effects of the 1994 World Cup. It’s what inspired our current national hero, it’s what makes me want to learn more about/keep writing about soccer. The crowds at HDC in Carson are fairly young, what soccer needs is stability and it looks like that might be happening
That 2002 team could have won.
I can not be talked out of this position
by Michael White on Dec 3, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Nominate replacing Don’t Stop Believing in the 8’th with a continous loop of that on Dodger Vision. Maybe some Macarena or Suavamente to go with that.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Nevermind macarena, suavamente goes pretty good with that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j3Mx4Z7y-c
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njSrP-B4VN0
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
John Cassavetes
deserves better. Sheeet, he must have needed some money for his indie films. Didn’t know about that one.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Hey that was not a bad movie
Brian DePalma, back when he was still an interesting director.
Young Amy Irving! Kirk Douglas!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
From the beginning of the 2009 season
with Toronto, through the time that Barajas was designated for assignment by the Mets in August, Rod Barajas hit .226/.260/.407
For sake of completeness
Russell Martin during that same period hit .249/.350/.330, an OPS (.680) just 13 points higher than Barajas. But of course, much more OBP heavy.
awesome
to the max………
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
much better
when do the playoff tickets go on sale?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
For the Giants, or the Padres?
After the good vibes I felt over the pitcher signings, this week has been a real downer.
that’s why you don’t build lego toilets
by Josie Becker on Dec 3, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The artist reaction: It was beautifully shot and really brought out the theme of getting lost in your work and the darkness that lives in everyone
The TBLA reaction: Natalie Portman – Mila Kunis sex scene
good
highbrow it is….we have some aesthetes here
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I didn't even mind Uribe
but this is quite silly…at age 35 he could hit 15-20 HR but he is station to station, a “maybe” to control the running game, and no run production besides that. If you’re going to have fat guys, at least get Prince Fielder.
This team is quite old, isn’t it?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
same here
but i take comfort in my belief that the dodgers are still the most improved team in the NL West this offseason.
Giants are bringing back the same grandpas, plus some new ones (tejada)
Rockies signed a worse 2b than the dodgers (jose lopez, albeit for a lot less money)
Padres look like they’re going to trade A. Gonz outside the division.
Agreed
I loved the pitching moves, and would support Padilla returning as well. Even Uribe makes the Dodgers better in 2011 than 2010 IMO. While Barajas is overpaid, it’s probably not crippling.
Like Humma and others have said, it might just come down to the LF as the final determinant, and/or nail in 2011.
Winter Meetings Watch
2011……stay tuned!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
The thing is, no matter who is in LF (outside of Babe Ruth 1921, Barry Bonds 2004, etc) the Dodgers also need Kemp and Ethier to not completely suck. They both have to bounce back AND the Dodgers need a real left fielder. If only one of those things happen… I dunno.
Now with 33% more Kavula
idk
if Ethier and Kemp both put up the numbers that we KNOW they’re capable of (.300 avg, 25 HR, 20 SB from Kemp. .300 avg, 30 HR from Ethier) I think that would be enough to offset Pods, Barajas, and Juan-for-four
But those numbers, assuming those guys also walk, count as bouncing back.
But last year, Kemp hit those 25 HR and 19 SB but he was terrible — hit .249, OBP .310. Ethier started off hot and then slumped hugely.
Yes, we know they’re capable of better play, but they are obviously also capable of suck.
Now with 33% more Kavula
2011 Dodger LF
Kirk Gibson :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
oh and did i mention
the Padres got Aaron Harang. there’s been rumors about Ned wanting him for years now. I am so thankful he did not sign him.
his option vests with 190 IP
so worst case scenario is they blow the 5 mil on one season. given the dodger track record, they have done much worse (schmidt)
Well so many possibilities from what I read, according to MLB.com if RS gets Crawford, then they will trade Jacoby with package of prospects since Pads are expecting at least one major league ready player with package of prospects. Top prospect going in seems to be Casey Kelly. It might be pretty good for pads, except they will have to play HELL of small ball since only power of Gonzo will be gone? And Pads probably hope Maybin will find some sort of power maybe.
If RS gets gonzo though, damn it’s gonna be fun to watch AL East next year.
just told my Dad about the Barajas deal
he snorted and described Coletti as “treading water”. FWIW, he was not a big fan of the Uribe signing either.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
In an article in the LA Times it talks about Martin being interested in Ned’s idea of a utility role playing C,2B,3B and OF. I wouldn’t mind if he came back for 3-4 million per year. I think less time behind the plate would keep Martin fresh and keep Blake fresh as well. I also read that we might have made an offer to Mariano Rivera in addition to the Red Sox and Angels. Looks like we still have some money to spend.
Russell Martin's professional career at positions other than C
In 2002, at age 19, he appeared in 40 games at 3B and one game at SS (!).
In 2003, he appeared in two games in the OF and one at 3B.
In 2004, he only caught.
In 2005, he appeared in one game at 3B.
As a major leaguer, since 2006, he has appeared in 12 games at 3B, for a total of 71.1 innings.
That’s it.
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no
but he’ll sure as hell try if it’ll get him a contract
you should provide a link, just FYI:)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry about that. Heres the link about us possibly making an offer to Rivera. Last paragraph.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/New-York-Yankees-Derek-Jeter-moving-toward-deal-120310
I don’t believe the Dodgers made an offer to Rivera, or at least one that had a chance of being accepted.
I am done guessing how much money that Dodgers have to spend. I didn’t think they had this much, that’s for sure.
I won’t be surprised if they get Werth or Crawford, and I also won’t be surprised if they are nearing their limit and they get Podsednik.
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kinda funny
if he is, then maybe it puts the Barajas deal in more perspective(paying him starter money that is.) as he’d probably still get most of the Catcher duties.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
im i the only person that thinks Martin palying any other position than catcher (with regularity) is a really bad idea? isn’t a good chunk of his value in his catching ability? if you stick him at third base, you suddenly have an untested fielder with some of the worst offensive numbers for a 3b in the majors.
I think Martin would play mostly at C about 110 games. Then maybe 20 games at other positions to give guys like Casey Blake a rest every once in a while. Barajas would start the rest of the time.
so
we’re gonna have 8 starting pitchers, 3-4 closers (one of which was a catcher), 2 catchers (one of which plays LF and 3B), a 2B who will play SS when the regular SS plays 80 games, a utility guy who will take over at 2B but can also play OF, SS and 3B, a CF who should be in RF, a RF who should be in LF, and a manager who does everything twice.
Straight?
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by Pure Azure on Dec 3, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You bet that's what she said. She said it all night long.
Wait, we’re talking about the Dodgers, right?
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Don't forget
the 3B who plays LF and 1B, the 1B who used to pitch, and 1.5 owners
Thank heaven for Vinny
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Does Martin’s bat even register at 3B? I know there’s the nostalgia factor but unless he’s getting on base all the damn time, we have the same problem.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Once
we thought he could go the Biggio route. In 2007 his bat would have played at any position other then 1st.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hey Eric
how many starts did Padilla make last season?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
thanks
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 3, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Whether it's Barajas/Ellis
or Barajas/Whomever, here are the numbers to beat in 2011…
Dodger catchers in 2011
.258/.348/.352 (.701 OPS)
23 doubles, 10 HR
64 runs, 56 RBI
opposing runners: 97 SB, 39 CS (29%)
where are those from?
did you mean dodger catchers in 2010?
sad but true
although if they give AJ Ellis more starts, that could bump the OBP up
Your overall point is right, tho
Barajas himself is not a killer. He’ll reach that 700 OPS, or come close. It’ll be mostly slugging instead of mostly OBP, and the team OBP is already suffering, but whatever.
The issue is the money. The Dodgers need a real LF. If the money they spent on Uribe and Barajas keeps them from getting a real LF, they are sunk. If they can still afford a real LF, Uribe and Barajas are fine.
Everything depends on how much they have left and how they spend it, and like I say, I am done guessing how much is left.
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Dodgers sign Werth or Crawford and it’ll blow the lid off this place.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
if that happened
i would write poetry for Ned Colletti
First Ned spent the money on wee lads
But the latest news made me say egads
Now that we signed Carl
I no longer snarl
But rather have bought brand new kneepads
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
So did I, and it’s green.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
if that happened
I would not know what was going on anymore
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Crawford
I might weep tears of joy
haven’t done that since we signed Eric Davis to play with the Straw…
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
errrr
that didn’t turn out so well…no way CC is coming here if he wants a 7 or 8 year deal, and I wouldn’t want him for that length. He would be a perfect fit right now though, in his prime, hitting second in the order.
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Sure
Barajas (.260) + Ellis (.088) = .348
That’s how it works, right? :)
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uh,
.348 is the slugging percentage.
.258 is the OBP.
i’m hoping you’re joking about the way averages work.
and lastly, aj ellis had an OBP above 380 in 8 seasons int he minor leagues. it would obviouosly be lower int eh majors, but he’s known for having a good batting eye
So what’s league average for the catcher position last year?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
So the Dodgers are right there, on paper at least
then there’s the intangible of calling the game
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I thought
the triple slash was BA/OBP/SLG
but it was a joke about the catching situation, I know how to calculate it regardless of the #
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It is.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Save this stat
Eric this is definitely the first poll question once the season starts
Sooo what I'm hearing is
TBLA: COME ON
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
TBLA. Come for the Dodger talk, stay for the cock sauce!
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I just saw 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time. About as much of a mind fuck as this Barajas signing.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
And tomorrow I get to wake up early and go watch the Shoah. Hooray?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
well
apparently the class doing the holocaust has to watch the entire thing. My class just has to come in and see some of it at some point; our professor wants us to be aware that we are making a choice to be there and to leave. Crazy dude.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
What version of 2001 has Malcolm McDonald?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
i saw so many crazy movies
when i was in junior high. might explain me.
I still remember the day i watched A Clockwork Orange. yoinks.
Still haven’t seen it :)
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Correction:
Second best. She did the score for the original Tron.
by Christopher James on Dec 3, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
I saw that about a month ago
guhhhhh
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
It's pretty straightforward
Man finds God. The End.
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Somehow, I’m not sure that’s the conclusion we’re going to come to in class, but I am really looking forward to discussion. We had to read two essays, one on origin stories and one by Jonathan Z. Smith (my hero) about a certain “origin” myth from some island cultures out in the South Pacific. Now that I think about it, I don’t remember much of the first essay, so I’ll have to go back over it. Either way, it proves to be an interesting class.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
my sarcasm didn't work
I know Kubrick better than that. My summation above is the Mel Gibson remake.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Fuck these bullshit last 48 hours...
Vomit, actual vomit, in my mouth. Can’t believe this deal, and coupled with last night’s non-tender…physically ill.
has this deal washed away the “I still think we’ll sign Martin” sentiment you’d been previously offering?
Almost completely
Given that if we do sign Martin, he will play positions I don’t want him to play too often, it negates his value.
There is still part of me that cannot believe that Russell Martin is the first of this crop of young Dodgers to go.
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Yeah, there’s him and the other what’s his face that we shipped to the Pirates, and Joel Guzman, too.
You know what I mean.
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I do, I like it. Baseball making me a fool is a wonderful thing
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
kind of awesome
in a you don’t really know what you think you know kind of way
love that about baseball
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I whole-heartedly agree. It’s the reason I went with the MARTIN jersey after the 2006 season. I thought we had a stalwart.
such a bummer
He had his two years in the spotlight
More than the vast majority of the others ever get …
Right John Lindsey?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
I am not angry now
but will be livid if Russel Martin is a utility player on this team. That would make me insane.
No glove, no hit, no way.
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
I read a business book once
Hope is not a strategy
I think that this a good title for a catcher on a downward trend and coming back from major injury.
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
I HOPE you’re right, but then I THINK about how young he is, how the injury didn’t even require surgery, how patient he is at the plate, how he’d excel in a hitters ballpark surrounded by better hitters…
…and then the vomit thing
how he’d excel in a hitters ballpark surrounded by better hitters…
You really believe that? I’m curious, not trying to be a dick.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
it’s kind of a wanting to believe in santa claus thing, but deep down you know…
…4th grade all over again
A fair point
but only the market will tell us whether or not that was a mistake.
If Martin can get close to his ~$5m as a free agent, then Ned should have been able to get something for him. However, if he signs for less, than we know he couldn’t have gotten anything because teams were unwilling to pay in players for someone whom they thought would be overpaid.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’d dent the green monster a plenty. I also think another manager might value his OBP and bat him somewhere other than 8th (he did well hitting higher in the order this year)
The 2006, 2007, 2008 Russ we all loved would do as you suggest
2009, 2010 – not so much?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
he’d wear out the dirt infront of the SS
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
players as young as he is can rebound..that’s all I’m saying. And that truth, however rare, scares me and would bum me out if it were to happen…
…plus, I liked the guy, HOPED he’d improve
I agree
He is not nearly as dead as LaRoche, at keast he was good once, but he was bad for a very long time and he got hurt. Very hurt.
I hope he becomes a star again, maybe in cricket, in India
I kid, all the best Russ
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
One thing
I think BH said earlier that they realize that with this team, stringing hits together wasn’t scoring enough runs cos they would inevitably be 3 singles in a row and then a DP or popup would kill the rally.
So it makes sense to alter the makeup by adding more power even if people walk less, since we can end up with some big innings and stop stranding so many baserunners, which has really frustrated me with the punchless Loney and Martin over the years. I like the extra power, but we have to see a balance with table setters or else it will be a solo HR parade.
This means Furcal (gulp) has to play 130 games and Kemp and Ethier have to be much better. It can happen. LF, obviously, is key.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
just read one of my fav fan comments ever
over at msti…something along these lines…
Ned Colletti treats 35-year-olds like they’re 25 and 25-year-olds like they’re 15.
My brother has a strange Russel Martin theory
He thinks Russel went south because of Manny. Russel was the man up unti then, and when Manny showed up, Russel changed his approach to try and keep up with the Ramirezes and everything fell apart. Once broken, he got lost and could never find it again
I think that is lunacy, but as good as anything I have heard
It’d be interesting for someone who knows a lot more about the mechanics of baseball to see if anything really did change when Manny was acquired. Maybe ego got involved — hot young star supplanted by HOF-destined hitter.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
knows a lot more than me! just me! wasn’t trying to allude to anything, I promise
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I did hear something
about he calling me the c word a few days back
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
It did
he became a pulling machine
but when exactly? don’t know
Just know it happened
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
coaches knew it to
When batting practice was over he would ask if Russ was going the other way.
Okay he asked once, but hey he asked.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The timeline works with the “Don Mattingly ruined his approach as a hitter” story too, for that matter.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 3, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
That's
Donnie Two Times to you.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’d say, “He’s going away,” but he’s not going anywhere.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
There needs to be a 3 second theme song clip for that.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 3, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
that part works
another thing to throw on Manny’s head
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
a. gonz to red sox deal is "close"
this seems like a long time coming. a gonz just seems right for boston.
AL East is gonna get very interesting next year.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
usually is
though i can’t see reasonably see the Rays competing again
weren’t they “close” with acquiring A-Rod in the 03-04 offseason?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 3, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
I hope Tex doesn’t play any pickup basketball this weekend.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Are you suggesting Aaron Boone will be our left fielder?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 3, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
She had nothing on Jayne Mansfield
And Sophia Loren agrees with me!
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
the waiter with the towel is pretty funny
what’s he doin’?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Trying to keep his job.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Hoping for an Old Fashioned on his break.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Old Fashioned --
So that’s what the kids were calling it in those days.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Tell me about the women at your office that you don’t like
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Now we're talking
So much better than Erin Hawkowhich
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 3, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Erin’s a pretty girl and everything, but let’s not go crazy.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Gorgeous -- and spoiler alert
…….
when she shows up halfway through Laura……….
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think this is true —
After that movie became a hit, only then did they get Johnny Mercer to write lyrics to the theme. Which he did without having seen the movie. And it’s one of his most gorgeous and fits the movie so well.
For the unitiated:
Laura is the face in the misty light
Footsteps that you hear down the hall
A lamp that glows on a summer night
That you can never quite recall
And you see Laura on the train that is passing through
Those eyes — how familiar they seem
She gave your very first kiss to you
That was Laura — but she’s only a dream….
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
or Jane Russell
c’mon now, let’s not be ageist and superficial
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
None of us look good old.
C’mon, they sold one of her movies with the tag line, “What are the two big reasons for Jane Russell’s rise to stardom?”
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
What if, just what it....
Hulk Hogan is to the WWF as Russell Martin is to the National League?
think about THAT!
Gonzales to Red Sox-no room at the in for Beltre
So if Gonzales goes to the Sox, Beltre’s teams narrow to Angels, A’s. anyway the Dodgers can get in on Beltre?
Would have to figure out a way to get rid of Broxton or Blake, resign Padellia for the pen
Youk at 3rd would have incredible value
best infield in baseball?
AGon / Pedophile / Scutaro / Youk
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jesus Ned
Do you have to make it so fucking obvious that you are trying to look like last years world series winners?
It did take them 53 years to win it.
But it could work, better chance than last year.
Who would you hate the most for Ned to sign to play LF besides PodBoy?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good picks
at least we’d have some guns in LF. As a platoon that may not be so bad, as either of them full time it would be a disaster.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So what brought you over after all this time?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
always a daily reader, just not a commenter
but I was bored during a conference call
and the realization that I was a member combined with the post about member stats
once I got in the water I realized that my biggest fear, namely following conversations at two sites would be harmful for my productivity was in fact a fair fear
but why let something like that stop me now
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:07 AM PST up reply actions
I would certainly sign
LaRoche for AAA insurance. His 2nd half last season showed some promise then he fell apart again this year. Would be kind of funny to have LaRoche playing AAA as insurance given his one time best prospect in the system status while Russ Mitchell gets the corner utility gig and has never gotten any support from a prospect status.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
But what would that gain the Dodgers? Best-case scenario is he goes to ABQ and mashes. What then? Do you really promote him?
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
If he mashes
and Blake gets hurt, sure, what do you lose?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Four at-bats a game.
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, that was snarky, and just as I’m going to bed and gonna disappear. That’s bad form, I know….
…but g’nigh
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by Humma Kavula on Dec 3, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know what SB Nation site made this, but it's great
found it via this guy (a Mets fan) on Twitter:
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 11:00 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
beyond awesoke
Next year we will hate Barajas as much as Met fans do right now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No matter how poorly he does, it will not be Barajas that I will hate.
This is just…..wow. I don’t even know anymore. When I heard they signed Barajas, I thought, “Oh, ok. That’s fine.” Then, when I saw the amount…….wow.
Ned’s turned into the biggest caricature of himself beyond anything even the Ned bashers (aka reasonable people) could have imagined. I mean…wow.
Update on Gonzalez trade rumors
mlbtraderumors Dan Hayes (NCTPadres): Adrian Gonzalez trade would involve only minor leaguers from BOS, including Casey Kelly. Says deal is very closeSo no Ellsbury (which is probably not a big deal), Lowrie, bard, etc. I’ll be happy to see Gonzalez gone from the division. Even happier if the Padres don’t get that much in return. Except for the Red Sox stealing a great player. Eff them.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Nice to have money, a good farm system
and the hype machine to overrate your farm system even if it’s not that good. We’d have to give up Kershaw.
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You want to see the masters of overhyping their farm systems, I present to you
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C
I would add more but I ran out of room for Exhibit D through T.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
Word of advice
Please add a subject when you post pictures. This comes in handy for those (especially during the work week) who want/need to hide the pics on their screen (which can be done by clicking the subject of any comment).
Thanks.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 3, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Only a Angel fan...
…would use proper forum etiquette.
Daa Daa Da Daaoom!!!
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 4, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
I won't
I like the idea of the Padres being good enough with AGon to beat the Rockies and Giants once in a while. Nothing good comes from having a doormat in the division.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
a broken record
same story down there, like the Marlins but they never win anything…maybe I don’t blame the fans for staying away even though they had a surprisingly good year. They have one of the best parks in baseball and another shitty team, and there goes the hometown star. If it’s not a fire sale, it has been horrible drafting and trades. How many great players stay there? One. Ever.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
We are not a franchise to mock others
I seem to recall them being in a World Series in the last 20 years and do you think our record over the last 22 years is much better then their’s?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We are probably not the franchise to mock others
But we are the fanbase that mocks the others the best. We are like the Oregon of baseball, all we do is talk smack on others all day long while ignoring the fact we live in crappy depressed filled Oregon.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 3, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
You think I’m a Dodger fan? I just come here to talk shit and post pictures of girls.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
If you come here to talk shit and post pictures of girls.
You just might be a Oregonian.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 4, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
Alert!
Hermano episode of Arrested Development on IFC right now!
Sounds like Gonzalez to Boston is almost done
Per Buster Olney:
Sources: Major League Baseball has approved a negotiating window for the Red Sox to negotiate with Adrian gonzalez.
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