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Happy Birthday, Sandy Koufax

The great Sandy Koufax turned 75 years old today. The man is legendary, and Vin Scully last year called Koufax walking to the bullpen "a maestro ascending the podium to conduct his symphony."

Part of the legend of Koufax of course is that he retired early. After his age 30 season, Koufax was done. He retired with 165 wins. My question to you is this: Will Clayton Kershaw, who has 26 wins through his age 22 season, match or exceed Koufax's 165 wins by age 30?

Keep in mind that 139 wins in eight years is an average of over 17 wins per season, and that no pitcher has had 139 wins in an eight-year stretch since Randy Johnson turned the trick from 1998-2005.

  • 2003-2010: Halladay 132, Sabathia 127
  • 2002-2009: Halladay 130, Oswalt 123
  • 2001-2008: Oswalt 129, Mussina 123
  • 2000-2007: Maddux 126, Hudson 124, Johnson 124
  • 1999-2006: Johnson 137, Maddux 131
  • 1998-2005: Johnson 139, Colon 135, Maddux 134, Pedro 132

So, no, it doesn't seem likely that Kershaw will match Koufax's 165 wins through age 30. But...

  • It would be awesome if Kershaw did;
  • Let's hope Kershaw has an age 31 season, and beyond.

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Koufax is a major competitor on the Golf Course

He can hit the ball a looooong way!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

No

I’m not very impressed with the average of 17 wins over his career, I’m more impressed with what he did from age 27 – 30.

Up until then he only averaged 8 wins a season. No one got more notoriety out of four consecutive years then Sandy possibly in the history of baseball.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Actually his greatness started at age 26, since his birthday is December

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

That was my thought too

Kershaw going strong at 30 is one thing, going strong for the Dodgers at 30 is another.

Really though, the Dodgers have to lock up at least 1 guy through some free agency years, right?

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll be one shocked Dodger fan

if Clayton Kershaw is a Dodger after the age of 27.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re saying he won’t take 3/45 as a free agent?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

At the Clipper game last night

The guys behind my seats were uninformed fans who probably don’t care about the Clippers at all. And they were saying that Griffin will leave the first chance he gets because Sterling never spends money on players. That of course is wrong. He’s signed extensions with Maggette, Brand and Kaman and signed Davis as a free agent. These are all in the past few years. So for me, it’s a given that Gordon and Griffin will sign extentions with the Clippers and they’ll be around for at least their first 7 professional years.

That being said, I have no faith that ANY of the Dodgers young “core” will be signed up past their arb years, which is pretty amazing. Not Kemp, not Ethier, not Billignsley, not Kershaw, nobody. Of course, signing all or some of these guys would be the wrong move, but I really have no faith in any of them being here after arbitration. Which is remarkable.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I think

they will buy out a couple of FA years for Clayton but I think after that he will be gone. Clayton would be crazy as a pitcher to not at least secure his future. We started his clock very early, we will pay that price.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I was encouraged by all the dodger stuff in CK’s wedding photos.. Would like to think he loves playing here and would want to stay..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 30, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Since I remember being notoriously cheap, those might be the only possessions he owns.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude has already made over a million dollars in his career. I think he could have sprung for a non-Dodgers wedding if he wanted to.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s also really proud that he pays 11 dollars for a haircut.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t most guys?

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

At least the ones with bad haircuts.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

just used the proglide razor on my head for the first time

last night and right now it still seems closer than when I just shaved it with the fusion….that’s like 15 hours later.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

on your head? like where your hair should be?

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Dad was so kind to hand down the premature balding gene

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought that came from the mother’s side?

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure does.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Maddz

now my complex can be directed to her instead…..we’re still cool now pops..cuz maddz said so

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

w00t, go AP Biology!!

My brother might be screwed.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

speaking of clippers

how many of the games have been sold out recently? nice to see BG’s success translating into attendance. Im going to the game on 1/22 to get on this bandwagon.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure if any have truly sold out. I actually happened to look it up this morning, the Clippers are 15th out of 30 in the NBA for attendance.

The game last night seemed pretty damn full and I heard the crowd against Houston and PHX was very lively.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They sold out Sunday, but that was one of the games where they gave free tickets to all season ticket holders. They gave us three choices as a Christmas Present.

I expect walk up sales are going way way up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

lawler or the other dude

said ‘another sellout tonight at staples’ and I was kinda shocked. maybe its the old ‘paid attendance’ magic they do at dodger stadium..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 30, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, that’s why I said “true sellouts.” Like Phil said, they were giving out free tickets. I know yesterday the game was advertised as being sold out but if you wanted to buy seats there was definitely an oppurtunity.

Also, when walking around LA Live before the game there was a ton of Wisconsin fans around. I think a few of them went to the game (hard to tell because they were all wearing red anyway.)

Also, last night there seemed to be a big Turkish crowd. Not sure if that was an official event (as the Clippers have those kind of events regularly) since I thought they were supposed to have Turkish night against Phoenix (because of Hedo.) Hedo was traded before that game was played and Okur was back for Utah last night, so if they were able to switch it that would have worked out perfectly.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Did Frank cut cost so much..

That Ned has to ride a horse too work now?

by darrelld on Dec 30, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea of the context of this photo

But who is wearing the plaid converses and jeans to the right? One of Frank’s kids? The other guys who appear to be in this meeting are in suits…

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe that was at the last blogger night. The dude on the right is most likely Roberto Baly from Vin Scully Is My Homeboy.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The coolest dude there obviously.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

my guess is Bill Mueller (J/K)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ll be honest. Ned gets a few points from me for those boots.

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

By far my all time favorite player (Koufax)

followed by Ron Perranoski, Mike Piazza, Shawn Green, Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

As Dodgers go

Koufax, Drysdale, Valenzuela, Kershaw in that order for me

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice rotation

Garland can round it out and be the 5th starter. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 30, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you’re close to my age. If so, I’m curious how you can have a favorite player from a guy that was before your time. I really can’t. So my favorites are Kevin Brown, Shawn Green and Chad Billingsley.

Basically, I don’t count anybody I was a fan of before I turned 18 and really started to appreciate baseball.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I've met and conversed with Brown

but never Green (he was my favorite from when he signed until 04’). I’ve met Billingsley and Broxton too. Billingsley had a house on 43rd in Vero for several years he was next door neighbors with my boss.

I’ve bled Dodger Blue since I was in diapers. The access was really cool as a kid, I used to be able to bat boy and play on the practice fields with some of the guys.

Lasorda got me a bat boy gig while in HS when we had Sheff, Beltre & Mondesi. Had a locker next to Hundley and we had a dip together (me=skoal mint / him= skoal straight)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Was Perry nice to you in Florida once

because he is a strange choice for all time favorite player?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Vero Bro

I still call Perry “Uncle Ron” and see him all the time, and called Koufax “Uncle Sandy” until High School. I’ve played golf many times over with the both of them. I’ve known them both since I was a toddler and have some great pics taken by John Soo Hoo from the 80’s at Dodgertown. My Dad is great friends with all of those guys since the 70’s. Yaeger was another good buddy of his. I’ve got Soo Hoo pics with the following:

Sax
Guerrero
Hershiser
Venezuela
Ruess
Strawberry
Perry
Koufax
Monday

and a few more

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

No birthday love for LeBron James? ;)

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

Happy Birthday!

quite a bit of facial resemblance with “The Shoe”.

by Xeifrank on Dec 30, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

Random prospect thoughts

In anticipation of Sickels’ & BP releasing their Dodgers list over the next couple of days.

I’m predicting Dee Gordon is going to be #1 on everyone’s list and likely will be a B+. After that, I’m predicting a toss-up between Zach Lee and Trayvon in the top 3. Then, Sands, Rubby, Jansen, Webster, Withrow, A. Miller, E. Martin will likely round out the top 10. E. Martin will probably be a C+ after being a straight B last year.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

he just does letter grades

doesn’t he, not a straight top ten. Meaning we could have 3 b+’s 5 b’s but he doesn’t put them in any order.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Sickels, isn't that who you are talking about?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I was talking about Sickels and Goldstein (both are coming out soon)

They both do numbered order and grades.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Goldstein’s grades are star ratings only, right?

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea. He does the 5 star, 4 star, 3 star…

I kind of equate it to A, B, C

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

No, Sickels ranks the prospect and also gives grades next to them.

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh

I thought he saved the ranking for his book.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

More importantly

try to guess which team Kershaw will be pitching for in his age 31 season. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 30, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

Not funny Xeifrank

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Houston Astro's

seems the obvious guess.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't he from closer to Dallas?

Rangers would be in the mix if that were the case.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I've always pictured

Clayton as a NL guy, he loves baseball to much to play in the fake league.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Good choice

Then we’d probably get him back for his age 36-42 seasons.

by Xeifrank on Dec 30, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

HA.

This one made me laugh.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He

will re-unite with Chad as a Cardinal

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

at least

they’d get some recognition then.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope the thought going through Sandy's head in the pic is

“Oooh, yeah, Ace makes an Ace….too slick….”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:13 AM PST reply actions  

Hmmm...

Since Koufax achieved real greatness between age 26 and 27, can we all cut 26.5 year old James Loney a break and hope this is his break out season?

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

No because Koufax had potential to be tapped. Loney just sucks.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you really feel?

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually I really want to like Loney. I’m just so sick of a 200+ pound 1B yank out his hips and swing with his arms like a 150lb. japanese second baseman trying to poke one through the hole.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s cool. You don’t have to tell me. I feel the EXACT same way.

I want to like him as a player. He seems like a nice guy, great with fans, my wife likes him. But I share in every frustration you have.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I've seen James Loney hit one out to CF in DS at night

It just seems to me like he’s not harnessing what he does have. But that’s just my worthless opinion.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

He does, on occasion, load up and deliver a clean, compact and solid swing. And that is usually when he drives the ball into one of the gaps (or dead center like you mentioned).

Unfortunately, the majority of the time he thinks he’s a leadoff hitter, and flails with his arms sending a weak grounder to short.

If only we could blend Loney’s contact skills, with Kemp’s swing load.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw Loney read a hanging curveball, undercut it, and still hit it to the warning track. That just boggles my mind.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw Loney hit a Dempster ball somewhere over CF at Wrigley

that boggled my mind

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t see it. I was driving home from work and heard it on the radio.

Point taken though.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Mickey Hatcher hit 2 HR in the 1988 World Series

It doesn’t make him a good player, or a major league starter

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

He rocked the salt and pepper look like no other!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

No

my point was that it boggled my mind when James Loney hit that Grand Slam.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

in Hatcher-esque way yes?

last guy you thought was gonna do that.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I already wrote about how surprised I was.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

good stuff

i actually felt the same way seeing it off the bat, then it was like “It’s still going……..”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It did however make him a hero

which is more important in the long run. Would anyone remember Hatcher with affection if he had been a good major league starter but sucked in the World Series compared to the Hatcher we got?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, but he was addressing my specific small sample size example with one of his own. In hindsight, my one instance is no more “evidence” than his one instance.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea its sad. Its because he only puts like 20 of his 200 lbs. to work when he swings most of the time.

I really think maybe different scenery with different coaching mentality could help the guy. He has the bulk and the contact skills.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm firmly in the camp

that if Don Mattingley was not able to convince Ned that Loney could do more he would have been non – tendered given the abundant of free agent 1st baseman who they already know could provide more offense then James and the cost of James in 2011. JMO

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

The cost is still too high

Pena got $10 million, Lee will probably get ~$8m (there was a report the Padres offered him that before signing Hawpe).

LaRoche is the cheapest of the bunch, but might get $6m per and isn’t enough of an upgrade to say, “thank God we solved that problem.”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

If I'm a GM

I’d rather have one year of Lee at 8 Million then Loney.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

So would I

But I don’t think, given the money the Dodgers spent on pitching, Ned wanted to up the 1B part of his budget.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Supposedly LaRoche turned down 3/21 so if those are the types of offers being thrown around, Loney is back next year too.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree Reg

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

If he slugs .39x again he’s getting non-tendered.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless he drives in 110 runs:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

How is 90 rbi

sucking? He sucked in the 2nd half last year, as did every other hitter on the team.

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Because if he batted 7th, he would end up with 65 RBI’s every year instead of 90.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

RBI is not a good way to measure a hitters value.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

We love Vin

he’s not infallible.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You have violated Dodger pet peev #1 sir!

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

1) 88 doesn’t equal 90

2) It sucks when you have the 5th most baserunners on base in the NL (463) and only end up with 88 RBI

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I still don't think

he’s the problem with this team. Maybe 40th on the list

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we're past the 2010 Blame Game

we’re placing bets on the 2011 version now.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Other than LF (since there is nobody there now) Loney is the worst hitter compared to his positional peers on the team.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Barajas and Blake….

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

We have to many

where we could have the worse player in the NL
1st, C, LF are all possible to be near the bottom. When Furcal gets hurt again then add SS.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

In the National League in 2010

Catchers hit .253/.326/.388
First Basemen hit .269/.354/.459
Third Basemen hit .265/.331/.421

There is a far higher offensive requirement at 1B.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice pull

To add:

Catchers .253/.326/.388 – .714 OPS
Barajas .240/.284/.447 – .731 OPS

3rd Basemen .265/.331/.421 – .751 OPS
Blake .248/.320/.407 – .727 OPS

1st Basemen .269/.354/.459 – .813 OPS
Loney .267/.329/.395 – .724

Loney is nearly 100 points off the average OPS, not to mention a Slugging of less than .400 out of your #4/#5 hitter is pathetic.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

2010 numbers

ranks by wOBA:

Loney: 22 out of 24
Blake: 14 out of 23
Barajas: 18 out of 35

For first base and third base it is for people who qualified for the batting title, for catcher it is 250 PA.

So Rod and Blake were perhaps slightly below average, while Loney was nearly the worst.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

My expectations for 2011

Loney moves up (15)
Blake moves down (20)
Barajas moves way down (28)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see Blake and Barajas.

15th on the list last year was Derrek Lee and he put up a wOBA of .340.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Try 9… No make that zero. :)

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You'd probably get walked or beaned

with the bases loaded atleast a couple of times. :)

by Xeifrank on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Juan Pierre hits .300 ….errrr, .298 and sucks too

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

No

James Loney will get a break when he hits the ball, the only reason Sandy was not greater sooner was simply opportunity. Those are his words not mine. James Loney has had plenty of opportunity.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

Koufax led the league in ERA and WHIP at age 26. He led the league in strikeouts at age 25. He led the league in K/9 from ages 24-26.

Let’s not pretend Sandy was visited by some fairy godmother between 26 and 27.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Koufax

had a control problem. He didn’t get it down until age 26

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He was definitely wild

played college basketball for Cinncinati

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Koufax led the league in K/BB at age 25

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He told me a funny story that he was the only player to go on an 0-12 run with 12 stikeouts and for me to remember it because it would come up in conversation one day….17 years later viola!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

sure

but once the injury was out of the way he soared. I’ll still stick to my point that his four years from 63 to his retirement were four of the most incredible consecutive years we have seen from a pitcher if you include his post season heriocs.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I was addressing the ridiculous and misguided comparison to Loney

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Not saying

Loney is on the level of Koufax….. Just that he can still be good, given his age.

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I want Loney to succeed

But he has shown absolutely nothing to indicate he will improve. He has been the same player for three straight years.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Once you display a skill you own that skill

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

one of my favorite baseballisms of all time

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to the driving range with a friend of mine. He swung an 8 iron, let it go, and tossed it about 20 yards down range and over a 30 foot fence. I doubt he can do it again if he tried.

Sometimes you just get lucky.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know how you’re throwing a javelin…

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not

but you’re 8 iron chucking friend is

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Loney was

good for over 500 at bats before becoming mediocre.

During his three year stretch that Eric mentions we know that he was above average on the road for 2 of those years. He has the skills, he has demonstrated them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the book just got out on him, is there any pitch fx stuff that goes back to 2006?

Dodger Stadium is probably the worst park for Loney, so that doesn’t help matters.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

In his first 500 AB’s when he hit all those homers that got everyone excited, I seem to remember him pulling the ball for all those homers and being less of a gap hitter.

I haven’t seen that from him since, except on rare occasion.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Loney has never gone oppo or even hit a ball over center at Dodger Stadium. All his power is still to pull, he just does it way less often.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

he hit one to center in DS

i saw it. It was in the late innings of a game they were losing but he did do it. At night no less

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right, once in 2006.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

no

it was last season.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Dammit, fine :)

Just look at what Eric wrote.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Does

that include the 2008 postseason CF home run? If so either Tommy is lying or B Ref does not know where CF is.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

B-Ref is always regular season unless it says otherwise.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Then

he hit 2 to CF from 2008 – 2010:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

My numbers were just Dodger Stadium.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

well I'm not lying

but B-Ref may list it as right center, I remember the ball landing just left (if you are the batter) of the RF pavilion. It didn’t land in the seats.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

19 HR from 2006-2007 (486 PA):
10 to RF
6 to RCF
1 to CF
1 to LCF
1 to LF

36 HR from 2008-2010 (1950 PA):
23 to RF
10 to RCF
1 to CF
1 to LCF
1 to LF

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The one to LF in 2006 was an extreme opp field shot just INSIDE the pole on his monster day at Coors.

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

we just had an in office discussion

about your EXACT statement…good stories being told over here

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

we argued that Pedro's run was the closest in comparison

Do you agree?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Randy Johnson had two separate periods better than Koufax’s peak. Pedro, Maddux, Clemens, and a few more also had Sandy beat.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

:(

you and your damn logic

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been told it is better

but given what Sandy did in the postseason I will never ever ever ever ever be able to agree.

Also what Eric says but again we are talking three great World Series not just one.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

2 days rest???? A man amongst boys

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Koufax stat

His last three starts of 1965:

27 IP, 1 ER

September 25 – October 2

ONE WEEK!!!

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe if Loney would start pitching this season, it is possible.

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve made that same look on the golf course too many times to count.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 30, 2010 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Best I've seen

Being older than dirt, I actually saw Koufax play when I was a young Dodger fan. He and Bob Gibson were the most dominant pitchers I’ve ever seen.

by preacher roe on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

Marichal too. He was a beast

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 30, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Phil

Still feel embarrassed by the “what was Perry nice to you once?”

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

Why should I

I know your background, the only possible reason you would list him as one of your favorite players was because he befriended you personally not because of anything he did on the mound.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually find your question to me strange. Did you think I was impugning you in some way?

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

not at all bud...I just thought we conversed about what you guys did for him on here

and was a little confused about your comment

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

16-3

name a relief pitcher who ever did that? Yes he gave me a lot of gifts for Bday presents over the years so he is my fav because I know him….you’re right

Still doesn’t make me any less of a fan of his

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but you were born what 30 years after that.

Like Michael my favorite Dodger has to be someone who I watched play, who gave me chills, who got me out of my seat, not someone whose stats I read on the back of baseball card.

You however had a different connection then just about anyone else here, you have met these guys, so your perspective is totally different then ours.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the idea of “baseball card favorites” since I have a few of those. Alejandro Pena and Kal Daniels for me- guys who I really didn’t watch play but they stick in my head because I was impressed by their stats/cards as a kid.
But yeah, those guys can never really be my favorites.

by guy clinch on Dec 30, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers have had 2 of the more remarkable years any relief pitcher has ever had

Mike Marshall’s 108 appearances in 1974 and Gagne’s perfect save year in 2003.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 30, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Fire Marshall & Game Over

great nicknames

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

For Win / Losses

Perry and Regan would also like to make Face.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Koufax taught me how to throw a curve and Perry showed me how to pick off when we went to 60’6" at age 13…figured I could have done a little better than college ball. Size/Velocity/Talent > Excellent teaching

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

To me

there is a difference to me being a fan of Reggie Smith, Dusty Baker and Ron Cey (as the first Dodgers I really was a fan of growing up in LA) and my admiration for Koufax, Jackie Robinson, Campanella, etc.

But I can certainly understand the personal connection.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

see that's funny you say that

because what Michael & Phil were saying make sense but it’s guys like Reese, Robinson, Larson, Snider etc where I can see not being able to claim them as favs.

I dunno it’s wierd for me man.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Dodgers player is still Mike Scioscia. He wasn’t amazing or anything, but I remember seeing him play one time at DS when I was very young, he scored a run or something, and the memory stuck.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Scioscia was amazing at blocking the plate!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I really do think I’m a fan of Mike Scioscia because he had an RBI in a random game sometime around 1991.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Andre Ethier because he had two back to to back solo home runs against the Padres in 2009. When it became increasingly obvious that chicks liked him because of his face, I was a bit embarrassed to sport his jersey.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but you actually know about baseball. You don’t count.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

right! I know about xFip and VORP, and BLERN

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Helluva baseball guy....

wanna hear a funny story about how he got his shot? Actually I better not

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

noooo

baaaad idea…..great story but way too personal. If my Dad found out I would be in trouble

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

As Maddz Daddz demonstrated, it’s easy to google.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

no it's not

it’s not public info at all….involves Yaeger and not the drink…but drinking is involved. now stop asking LOL

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

no no, I meant it’s easy to google TBLA. I was supporting your point!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone made someone wet didn’t they.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

callback!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

HA HA

Check ur email Maddz in 3 mins

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

wait, she gets the story and not me? what is this communism?

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodger catchers with a .400 OBP season

Qualified for the batting title:

Piazza x3
Scioscia

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

From the pre 80's era

there is a small handful of RP I would rate higher than him

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

I understand what you mean

I was a Baseball Card psycho as a kid. I had a lot of cards from the 50’s-70’s. I spent all of my childhood playing baseball, watching black and white games from back then and studying baseball statistics on the back of cards.

As for players I’ve watched it’s definitely Piazza. I would give a close second to the Bull Dog but for more of the aforementioned reasons. My biggest chills moment was in 86 (around there) Mike Marshall hit a walkoff grand slam in ST (which I know doesn’t mean crap) but still had a huge effect on me

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

For what it is worth

the back of Perry’s card made me a bit of a hero whenever that record comes up. They never guess him. Ever.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I try

to pump up a bleak situation with some positive energy saying Loney could still be good, and you guys are like wet noodles. What a group.. :)

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

It probably would have been fine if you didn’t use the “hey, Koufax got really good at age 27, why can’t Loney?” card

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

All I am saying is

a lot of players figure it out at around that age and I don’t understand why so many here are so absolutely sure he won’t do the same. I’m not denying he’s been a disappointment.

I may not be up on sabermetrics, but I’ve been following this team for like….50 years. Let’s see where things are at the end of the year.

After all, you all were admittedly way off on Kemp in 2010.

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ve been known to do that.

FWIW, Loney has been a hot button player for several years, so a lot of us were ready to go as soon as Loney was brought up. Not a lot of original research had to be done, I knew exactly where to look.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

tbf

Im sure the Dodgers decided to keep him around for this very reason.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 30, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't like statements based on facts either

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

For those wondering

It’s a balmy 35 degrees right now in Hesperia. I am wearing two sweaters today because I am a pansy.

It very well could snow up here on Saturday, which would be awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

I follow “Hesperiadailyweatherupdates” on twitter so I was already in the know.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously a follow Friday rec from Delias Man.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of the 1965 Twins

Harmon Killebrew diagnosed with cancer

Killebrew
Allison
Jimmie Hall
Tony Oliva
Zolio Versalles (.462 slug% for a SS – hence the MVP)
Don Mincher

That was a heck of an offensive team that Sandy shut down.

Anyone know what Jimmie Hall was famous for for many years? I remember this from the back of his baseball card.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Back when the back of baseball cards were the shit

I still remember Tony Oliva being famous for winning a batting title in his first two years (1964-1965). Man, that team was really good, and Carew wasn’t even there yet.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Tony Oliva 64 card

is awesome.

I’m still not sure he was not a HOF player. I know I’d rather have him then Jim Rice if I was building a team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Great question on the Jimmie Hall trivia

I had no idea. I found a JPG of the card, but I’ll wait to post it until anyone guesses.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Jimmie Hall

was a cool player for two reasons:
1. Power hitting Center Fielder
2. Spelled his name Jimmie instead of Jimmy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't that great

that always stuck in my mind.

Do you know who broke his record?

I think Earl Williams tied it with 33 in 1971.

Jose Canseco tied it with 33 in 1986

The guy who shattered the record hit 49, I’m not sure it was legal or not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Howard?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

nope wait McGwire

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I have his USA Rookie card

I was pissed at the time because I wanted a Darryl Strawberry rookie (I only had his 2nd year topps card with the Mets.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

McGwire was a relative bean pole in 1987

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

His forearms

were the largest I’ve ever seen from a baseball player from the moment he stepped onto a baseball field. I’m sure he was clean then.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Even bigger than Garvey? :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Garvey's were big relative to his size

McGwire was a huge man and his forearms were still big relative to his size. He was the real Paul Bunyon.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Beltre seemed like a beast of a man although he was short……biggest bicepts ever go to Trinidad Hubbard & Scott Steiner

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean he wasn’t roiding.

I have way less problem keeping McGwire out of the Hall, even if I disagree with it, because he admitted to roids.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

So

I can’t think of anyone between those 33 home runs and McGwire’s 49 can you?

Howard hit 22

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

what was Pulhos?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Non - Humans don't count

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

For the AL

Frank Robinson had the MLB record of 38, but I can’t think of anyone else besides Pujols.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean NL

regarding Frank Robinson

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Ron Kittle, 35 in 1983.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I am going to create a list
Most home runs by Age

I think that is more relevant.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

the AL was answering your question

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I realized that after I posted, sorry

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

and I always forget about Wally Berger (1930 Braves); he and Robinson were tied at 38

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

?

?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Stupid unrealistic conversation starter

Since I don’t think we have a shot in hell at a championship in 2011, let’s put Kyle Russell in LF (or RF). It would be entertaining to watch him set the MLB strike out record, but at least square up 20 – 25 bombs.

I’m not too worried about stunting his growth since he has about a 1/10,000 chance of being a successful major league starter.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

If he set the MLB strikeout record but hit 25 bombs he’d be a legit starter in the league at the MLB minimum.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea that’s true. I guess my thought was on the side of, he would hit at least half those homers off of unsuspecting pitchers who didn’t know who he was.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Word gets around fast.

Though I’m always in favor of calling up your best AAAA slugger in September and hoping someone throws him a fastball.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Has Matt Stairs retired?

Maybe him and Broxton can room together on the road

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if he hit like .170/.230/.350?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Come on

Kyle Russell is going to earn a pension as the good side of a platoon.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

at best

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW, I saw this in a comment on minorleagueball

I recently did a study on 10 years’ worth of minor leaguers with strikeout rates over 30% in more than 300 Low A-ball plate appearances. There was exactly one of them who ended up having a decent MLB career, and it was Russell Branyan (hardly someone with a typical career path).

So maybe, just maybe, Russell could be a Branyan with plus D in RF. Otherwise, he is power/defense bench fodder or worse.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

He is supposed to be a plus defender. Good speed, range and arm.

So if he’s even just a platoon guy who can play defense, that’s a nice guy to have available in your system.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that like hoping your shitty lefty becomes Jamie Moyer?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

funny

my best friend and I were talking about the farm and he asked about Russell and I told him to not bother remembering him. He asked what I thought his ceiling was and I said Branyan LOL. Then followed up with Rob Deer.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

We have used

Branyan as the comp in the past but he was always much younger then Kyle so the comp didn’t fit like a glove. As much as I use historical comps sometimes there is a first and in this era where players strike out more then ever, he just might be that guy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

FWIW ZIPS has Russell at .216/.287/.402 with comps of Ralph Bryant, Doug Frobel and Brad Snyder

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

And even those guys were younger than Russell while he struck out all the time.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you know the ZIPS for Sands and Trayvon?

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Sands was decent

very playable in fact. Just don’t think anyone should be using 1/2 a season of AA ball to extrapolate future performance.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree. Just curious though

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Here.

Sands is in the comments.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Of course I take ZIPS projections with a grain of salt, but Trayvon’s projected OPS+ was almost 10 points higher than Gwynn Jr. (94 to 85).

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll be pissed if the opening day starter in LF is Tony Gwynn

Not that Gwynn is starting, but that the Dodgers didn’t at least leverage his actual ability and address Kemp and Ethier’s deficiencies in the outfield. I could live with Gywnn starting in CF with Kemp in RF and Etheir in LF.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed

Even though I think Gwynn will be in LF on opening day, whether that is March 31 or April 1.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

They won’t do a defense shift for a nobody. Just my opinion.

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s not a nobody. He’s your starting outfielder and a guy who’s better in CF than Matt Kemp.

Then again, Ethier probably doen’t even know who Gwynn Jr is.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m fully aware of Gwynn’s elite defense. But good luck trying to convince a pair of primadonnas to move for him.

by silverwidow on Dec 30, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

they are primadonnas now?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I definitely don't think Kemp is at all!!!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless

they have a permanent CF I wouldn’t move them either. I mean if Gywnn / Hairston were to become the regular CF option then yes I’d move the outfield around, but if Gwynn was to only play once in a while I would not move Kemp / Andre on those occasions.

That said I would be kind of happy to see a Dodger outfield in 2011 of:
LF – Andre
RF – Kemp
CF – Gywnn / Hairston

The defensive improvement in all area’s might be as important as adding a better bat in LF since I don’t see any LF options who are game changers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

it is a baseball code that we are just not aware of.

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

He seemed cool in the ESPN video

but evidently you’re not the only one who has made that assumption of Dre

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I always thought he was funny

intense but funny. And honest.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually didn’t like the ESPN commercial.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was Entertaining Sports Programming worthy of the Network

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

at least in the “before the bigs” specials it seems like Ethier is a pretty nice guy..But I wouldn’t know…

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

are we really thinking Ethier is a massive jerk because of the Ely comment?

I mean he probably didn’t talk to the guy much and instead of saying “I don’t know him well.” he just said, “I don’t know him at all.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Ethier is probably a massive jerk because he is a professional athlete. QED

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagrant foul

for such a huge stereotype.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Also because he hits inanimate objects with baseball bats.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

indeed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Clayton Kershaw waves hello

from Africa

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey I’m not saying it’s impossible, but a dude gets everything he wants starting at like age 13, he’s probably gonna be a dick.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Reg you're an Eminem fan

you can do no wrong in my eyes

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I am? I mean, yeah, I am.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

you are whatever you say I am

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

thought u made a comment about it a week or two ago...my bad if not

maybe it was BHsports guy

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Loved the ESPN commercial he did

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

It was the first and only Dodger one

definitely not funny like the others, but I liked it merely for the fact that we had a player who ESPN finally recognized.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

If we don't make the playoffs and finish in the same spot

which I think is likely more so than unlikely..Do you guys think Ned keeps his job?

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

Another 80-82 season certainly wouldn’t help.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Personally I do. But I could see why he would get canned. Frank opened up the pocket book and Ned got to fill out his roster. Nobody but himself to blame if it doesn’t work out.

I just think Frank would give Ned at least one more year.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Then again, depending on how the season exactly plays out, it could be seen as a reason to “blow up” the core, and some Ned blame could be shifted to “first year manager” Don Mattingly, etc.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

that's what I'm more worried about

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

whom Ned hired. even though he prob didn’t

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Most home runs Age 19 and younger

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Tony Conigliaro 24 1964 19 .290 .354 .530 .883 *78/9
Mel Ott 18 1928 19 .322 .397 .524 .921 *9/4785
Ken Griffey 16 1989 19 .264 .329 .420 .748 *8
Mickey Mantle 13 1951 19 .267 .349 .443 .792 *9/8
Ed Kranepool 10 1964 19 .257 .310 .393 .703 *3/98

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Generated 12/30/2010.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

Way more amazing I think.

Age 20 leader: Mel Ott – 42.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

A Field of Dreams

I saw A Field of Dreams as a kid, but didn’t get it. I watched it again recently… really liked it …but I still didn’t really get it. So, i had to wikipedia the movie… and in so doing, learned
approximately 65,000 ppl come annually, to “have a catch” on the “Field,” but that as of July 2010, the farm containing the “Field” has been listed as for sale. Bummer.

just thought i’d share

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Most home runs age 20

Tony led the league with only 32 home runs in 1965 for the AL. Willie Mays hit 52 in the NL. Has there ever been a bigger discrepancy between home run leaders for the respective leagues?

                                                          
Rk Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
1 Ted Williams 31 1939 20 .327 .436 .609 1.045 *9
2 Tony Conigliaro 32 1965 20 .269 .338 .512 .850 *9/8
3 Eddie Mathews 25 1952 20 .242 .320 .447 .767 *5
4 Frank Robinson 38 1956 20 .290 .379 .558 .936 *78
5 Al Kaline 27 1955 20 .340 .421 .546 .967 *9
6 Mel Ott 42 1929 20 .328 .449 .635 1.084 *9/4
7 Alex Rodriguez 36 1996 20 .358 .414 .631 1.045 *6
8 Orlando Cepeda 25 1958 20 .312 .342 .512 .854 *3

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Generated 12/30/2010.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

1946

Hank Greenberg 44, Ralph Kiner 23

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

1938

Hank Greenberg 58, Mel Ott 36

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Hammering Hebrew

was the man

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

1933

Jimmie Foxx 48, Chuck Klein 28

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

1932

Jimmie Foxx 58, Chuck Klein / Mel Ott 38

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

How about

we ask since integration since obviously the AL kicked the NL ass when it came to home run hitters before integration.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

and a whole lot of Ruth

5 times he had 20+ more than the NL leader.

Best was 54-15 over Cy Williams in 1920

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

DodgersSF

could you explain the title…I missed it. Are you a good person who roots for the Dodgers but unfortunately is sanctioned in GNATS territory???

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Yes, she is

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

impressive to see her standing her ground

I think the Giants should wash their uni’s with Tide

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I grew up in bay area, became a Dodger fan when I went to college in LA, and have been avidly Blue ever since. I live in SF now. I am known as a “traitor” to my friends and family. And i say to them: “how can i be a traitor when I was never a fan?”

GO DODGERS!!

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

well said!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Underdog

also lives up there.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

and Mr. F, and Eephus, and others I’m sure

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

And Danny Tanner back in the 90's

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

uh.....

all…of them?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

NM

there is probably a pic there I can’t see

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Bob Saget

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

gotcha, didn’t remember him being a dodgers fan, probably the writers refusing to write Giants material

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

No they were Giants fans

I remember an episode where stephanie had a pitch called the tanner twister and she played on the Giants.

Oh wait I mean my sister told me about the episode, I never actually watched the show.

Umm my sisters name is Betsy…no I think Gloria sounds more believable

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

see

the fact that stephanie tanner got to play on the Giants tells you how lame that team is…

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I rec’d this. What of it?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

well, pin a rose on your nose

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously. Steph was the Jan Brady of her time

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

wow...now I don't feel so bad for watching it

I was a TGIF regular

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

you and the rest of the country, you silly goose

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Going back though

there is almost nothing funny about the show

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Dec 30, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i was firmly in Steph's corner

as a number 2 child myself.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

  1. children should join the priesthood or the army and get it over with

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

PRIMOGENITURE FTW!!!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

right? like back in the good old days when I’d be in line to inherit my parents’ entire estate. Though it is mostly debt. Meanwhile, my younger brother joins the army, and hopefully we can marry my little sister off or we’ll have to sell her to a wealthier family as a governess

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

yup

I knew this little tidbit of information on my first day of college and I think I managed to piss off most of the class because of it.

Cultural History of Classical Greece, you were awesome.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

damn it, humorous historical anecdote ruined

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I got it, and I enjoyed it

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I was a horn ball man

2nd grade I sooo wanted Uncle Jessies Wife ….was it Rebecca? I know the actor was Lori Loughflin

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope your dad doesn’t find out you said this.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rebecca Katsopolis nee’ Donaldson

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

i know right?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember the episode where Jesse was pissed that she kept her last name for the news show that she worked on and in the supermarket somebody called him Mr. Donaldson.

You see, Uncle Jesse was very proud of his greek heritage and name.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The best part of Full House

Is the fact that Saget is the exact opposite of his character in real life.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

true BFDC

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope Jesse implored her to have mercy.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

not his real first name though

which was Hermes

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

And you have upstaged me.

Excellent work.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

(pumps fist)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah

well what occupation did Jessie’s Dad have?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

did it matter

after he wrote his hit song “Forever”?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

WOOOOOW Mike

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

If anyone ever gets bored

check out the funny rap song Jaime Kennedy did about “Rolling with Bob Saget”….Saget even does a verse…pretty funny stuff

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodger SF fans

should really have a get together when the season starts!

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

i meant, fans of the Dodgers, not fans of me

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha :)

I think I’m the only Dodgers fan in Nashville. :(

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

wait, i had no idea you were in Nashville! my bad

by DodgerSF on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s nice, just not in the summer where it is humid

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Taylor Swift maybe, Jake Gyllenhall definitely.

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Most home runs age 21

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Eddie Mathews 47 1953 21 .302 .406 .627 1.033 *5
Albert Pujols 37 2001 21 .329 .403 .610 1.013 5379/D
Hal Trosky 35 1934 21 .330 .388 .598 .987 *3
Miguel Cabrera 33 2004 21 .294 .366 .512 .879 *97/D
Jose Canseco 33 1986 21 .240 .318 .457 .775 *79/D
Bob Horner 33 1979 21 .314 .346 .552 .898 *53
Jimmie Foxx 33 1929 21 .354 .463 .625 1.088 *3/5
Andruw Jones 31 1998 21 .271 .321 .515 .836 *8
Ruben Sierra 30 1987 21 .263 .302 .470 .771 *9/8

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Generated 12/30/2010.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

Eddie Mathews

might have a claim as the greatest 3rd baseman from age 21 – 25 in history.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Not if I can persuade Longoria to get on HGH

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Ewww Josie!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

hottttt

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

i was talking about getting him hooked on pcp, what are y’all talking about

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

:(

I’m going to go on that Anti South Bay tour soon! Just you wait!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

we can do it this summer

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yay!

Now I just have to get a solid job down here so all of my activities for the summer will not be compressed into a week

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

No you’re not. Redondo is the balls.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

But Delias man promised me cliff climbing and strippers!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I call it too.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

wait, what? I feel like I’m hip deep in euphemisms that I simply do not understand…

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

start saving those singles

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Valley vs. San Pedro rivalvry?

I don’t like where this is going.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

is Simi Valley considered part of THE valley?

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

No. I no longer live in THE valley.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I do! Sherman Oaks represent!

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to split hairs but don’t you currently live in Tennessee?

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I do. :(

I am currently annoyed with Southern California’s complete dearth of MTS programs I can transfer to. I think the only two around here would be Fuller and Claremont.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh, you’re basically done with your current program, might as well see it through :)

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that’s what I was thinking. This time next year, I’ll be almost done.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

What about Vanguard or Cal Baptist? Do they not have those types of programs?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no idae.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

or idea. :)

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Cal Lutheran?

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Dec 30, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

HUH????

I’m lost now…I see where Maddz head is…but her’s is constantly in the gutter

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

literally laughed

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Hold up in all seriousness

Longoria was hooked on PCP? I can’t believe that

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think so, I think Josie was being facetious. :)

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

oohh

I busted out “plethora” the other day, and now you counter with facetious. I wish I could spell that long ass word Mary Poppins used to say.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ve been known to do that from time to time. as far as i know, Evan only drank beer in high school

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

do people really do PCP anymore?? I mean I dabble in Angel Dust from time to time, but never PCP..oh you know me.

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't really know what it is

I just remember in the movie Friday Chris Tucker was stuck in the chicken coop after smoking it

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Wayne Brady taught me they were the same

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

wow. just, wow. I’m all for reclaiming hurtful history, but i bet most folk watching Friday don’t know about blackface vaudeville jokes

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

PCP girl...it's cool.

When you’re done digging get into those steps (totally kidding)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It was yet another movie that could have been wholly avoided if a single question had been asked:

Why you gotta be fuckin’ with Denzel?

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

No. It just seemed like it was all over the place.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Is anyone even on that list but George Brett and Beltre?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Bob Horner?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Travis Fryman had a good rookie year

or was it his second year he hit 22HR? I was 12 the last time I checked

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he started out as a SS

but even if he was a 3rd baseman he couldn’t carry Eddie Mathews jock. He might have been one of the best baseball players in history from 21 – 25.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

totally!

didn’t mean to insinuate that he was….just remembering I liked him as a rookie.

Wasn’t Thome solid too?? At 3B? My Dad and I own 1000 Pedro rookies and 1000 Astacio rookies (horrible investment) and 1000 Thome rookies

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I know you’ll hate this, but Matthews had the 7th highest WAR from 21-25. Cobb, Mantle, Hornsby, Foxx, Pujols, Speaker ahead of him.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

That is good company wouldn't you say

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh most definitely, just thought you’d be against me using WAR.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

35 on that list: Grady Sizemore. Probably gonna end up as the greatest what could have been of this generation.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

That reminds me of a joke I told you about a year ago

Grady Sizemore puts the “tool” in “5 tool Superstar”

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

And it’s still awesome.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha oh man…that was a trip. Working a 20 hour shift and talking about baseball and all sorts of other stuff to you because you were nice enough to stay up.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah the days of being single when drunk at 5 in the morning was totally acceptable.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

she'll be here all week

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Andruw Jones showing up

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Good old Bob Horner

straight from college to the bigs.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

That Pujols guy is pretty good

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 31, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ruben Sierra!!!

That Rangers team could hit!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

Most home runs age 21 - getting longer still using 30 as the cutoff

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Joe DiMaggio 46 1937 22 .346 .412 .673 1.085 *8
Johnny Bench 45 1970 22 .293 .345 .587 .932 *273/985
Juan Gonzalez 43 1992 22 .260 .304 .529 .833 *87/D9
Alex Rodriguez 42 1998 22 .310 .360 .560 .919 *6/D
Eddie Mathews 40 1954 22 .290 .423 .603 1.026 *57
Boog Powell 39 1964 22 .290 .399 .606 1.005 *7/3
Ted Williams 37 1941 22 .406 .553 .735 1.287 *7/9
Jimmie Foxx 37 1930 22 .335 .429 .637 1.066 *3
Bob Horner 35 1980 22 .268 .307 .529 .836 *5/3
Albert Pujols 34 2002 22 .314 .394 .561 .955 *753/D69
Miguel Cabrera 33 2005 22 .323 .385 .561 .947 *75
Earl Williams 33 1971 22 .260 .324 .491 .815 253
Jose Canseco 31 1987 22 .257 .310 .470 .780 *7D
Jason Thompson 31 1977 22 .270 .347 .487 .834 *3
Jim Ray Hart 31 1964 22 .286 .342 .498 .840 *5/97
Frank Robinson 31 1958 22 .269 .350 .504 .854 *785
Pete Incaviglia 30 1986 22 .250 .320 .463 .783 *9D/7
Jeff Burroughs 30 1973 22 .279 .355 .487 .842 *97/3

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

Joe D with 46

as a right handed hitter in Yankee Stadium is one of the more impressive feats I’ve seen on any of these lists so far.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh age 22

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Roids.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Because it’s golf, and nobody ever does.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

right? if Tiger needs constant coaching to be Tiger, how can the common man succeed?

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Good base, swing 85% keep your wrists straight and bring the club back but

don’t do all the way parallel….too much time to get the club head off line

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh

ha ha very funny…no my pops was a pro golfer and played for the mini tour…he used to teach those guys tips

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Appreciate the advice

I’ve had about eight people tell me different ways to swing a club. I got the basics right though.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 30, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

My golf swing is shit

Just thought I’d throw that out there.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a friend who picked up golf a year ago and is befuddled as to why he’s not a scratch golfer yet.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It took me 15 years to get down to a 9 handicap

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

How long have you been playing?

I play down in Long Beach from time to time. Lakewood is a good beginners course. Fairways so wide you can land a jumbo jet.

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Over the summer was when I really picked up the sport. Just go on the range and just hit balls with the different club classes.

I’ve played on a course four times, improving every time. I hit six good shots on my last time around, on a 9-hole course, a career high.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I think too many people worry about the golf swing and not chipping and putting. u chip and putt well u score. that goes for Tiger as well as the weekend hack.

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

I’m big on GIR too….but the short game is where you shed points the quickest

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

i hear ya. i think the better you are at chipping and putting takes less pressure off you always trying to hit The GIR and then because of that, u hit more GIR.. if that makes sense..

by Jason Ungar on Dec 30, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

only GIR i know

is from Invader Zim…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m totally lost.

My dad used to take me golfing all the time as a kid, so I don’t quite embarrass myself too badly on the driving range.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

GIR = greens in regulation

if you are teeing off on a par 4 then you should be on the green in 2. If you land on the green with your second shot then you meet the GIR. The closer you can get your GIR to one the better.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahh.

"I am slain. What mischance ever brought me to this dismal world, where bags of paint would spell my doom?" - Major Wes Jansen

by Maddz on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

look up butch harmon, he'll have you right in no time

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Age 23 - Prince makes an appearance, shocking to me

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Prince Fielder 50 2007 23 .288 .395 .618 1.013 *3/D
Mark McGwire 49 1987 23 .289 .370 .618 .987 *3/59
Troy Glaus 47 2000 23 .284 .404 .604 1.008 *5/6D
Reggie Jackson 47 1969 23 .275 .410 .608 1.018 *98
Juan Gonzalez 46 1993 23 .310 .368 .632 1.000 *7D
Orlando Cepeda 46 1961 23 .311 .362 .609 .970 *379
Ken Griffey 45 1993 23 .309 .408 .617 1.025 *8D/3
Hank Aaron 44 1957 23 .322 .378 .600 .978 *98/7
Albert Pujols 43 2003 23 .359 .439 .667 1.106 *73/D
Alex Rodriguez 42 1999 23 .285 .357 .586 .943 *6
Jose Canseco 42 1988 23 .307 .391 .569 .959 *9D
Harmon Killebrew 42 1959 23 .242 .354 .516 .870 *5/7
Hal Trosky 42 1936 23 .343 .382 .644 1.026 *3/4
Eddie Mathews 41 1955 23 .289 .413 .601 1.014 *5
Willie Mays 41 1954 23 .345 .411 .667 1.078 *8
Vladimir Guerrero 38 1998 23 .324 .371 .589 .960 *9
Mel Ott 38 1932 23 .318 .424 .601 1.025 *9
Mickey Mantle 37 1955 23 .306 .431 .611 1.042 *8/6
Andruw Jones 36 2000 23 .303 .366 .541 .907 *8
Frank Robinson 36 1959 23 .311 .391 .583 .975 *37
Ted Williams 36 1942 23 .356 .499 .648 1.147 *7
Will Clark 35 1987 23 .308 .371 .580 .951 *3
Rudy York 35 1937 23 .307 .375 .651 1.026 *25/3

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Prince is a beast

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

he's gonna go from beast to blob

if he doesn’t stay in the shape he’s gotten himself in recently.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He's a selective vegetarian LOL J/K

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that the only person with a better OPS on this list than Pujols is Ted Williams

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Dec 31, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Age 24 - Piazza at the bottom

First LA Dodger to make the list?

                                                           
Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Jimmie Foxx 58 1932 24 .364 .469 .749 1.218 *35
Mickey Mantle 52 1956 24 .353 .464 .705 1.169 *8
Willie Mays 51 1955 24 .319 .400 .659 1.059 *8
Ralph Kiner 51 1947 24 .313 .417 .639 1.055 *7
Lou Gehrig 47 1927 24 .373 .474 .765 1.240 *3
Albert Pujols 46 2004 24 .331 .415 .657 1.072 *3/D
Adam Dunn 46 2004 24 .266 .388 .569 .956 *73/D
Ernie Banks 44 1955 24 .295 .345 .596 .941 *6
Chuck Klein 43 1929 24 .356 .407 .657 1.065 *98
Vladimir Guerrero 42 1999 24 .316 .378 .600 .978 *9
Troy Glaus 41 2001 24 .250 .367 .531 .898 *5/6D
Alex Rodriguez 41 2000 24 .316 .420 .606 1.026 *6
Rocky Colavito 41 1958 24 .303 .405 .620 1.024 *93/17
Ken Griffey 40 1994 24 .323 .402 .674 1.076 *8/D9
Johnny Bench 40 1972 24 .270 .379 .541 .920 *29/35
Dick Allen 40 1966 24 .317 .396 .632 1.027 *57
Jim Rice 39 1977 24 .320 .376 .593 .969 *D97
Mark Teixeira 38 2004 24 .281 .370 .560 .929 *3/9D
Nate Colbert 38 1970 24 .259 .328 .509 .836 *3/5
Wally Berger 38 1930 24 .310 .375 .614 .990 *7
Ryan Braun 37 2008 24 .285 .335 .553 .888 *7/D
Eddie Mathews 37 1956 24 .272 .373 .518 .892 *5
Mike Schmidt 36 1974 24 .282 .395 .546 .941 *5
Hank Greenberg 36 1935 24 .328 .411 .628 1.039 *3
Nomar Garciaparra 35 1998 24 .323 .362 .584 .946 *6
Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Mike Piazza 35 1993 24 .318 .370 .561 .932 *2/3
Don Mattingly 35 1985 24 .324 .371 .567 .939 *3
Orlando Cepeda 35 1962 24 .306 .347 .518 .865 *3/79

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions  

Age 25 - Have to change the cutoff to 40 - some guy with a girls name is going to start dominating the list

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Babe Ruth 54 1920 25 .376 .532 .847 1.379 *978/31
Alex Rodriguez 52 2001 25 .318 .399 .622 1.021 *6/D
Adrian Beltre 48 2004 25 .334 .388 .629 1.017 *5/6
Jimmie Foxx 48 1933 25 .356 .449 .703 1.153 *3/6
Prince Fielder 46 2009 25 .299 .412 .602 1.014 *3
Jim Rice 46 1978 25 .315 .370 .600 .970 *7D9/8
Harmon Killebrew 46 1961 25 .288 .405 .606 1.012 *35/7
Mark Reynolds 44 2009 25 .260 .349 .543 .892 *53
Richard Hidalgo 44 2000 25 .314 .391 .636 1.028 *897
Vladimir Guerrero 44 2000 25 .345 .410 .664 1.074 *9/D
Willie McCovey 44 1963 25 .280 .350 .566 .915 *73/9
Mark Teixeira 43 2005 25 .301 .379 .575 .954 *3/D
Rocky Colavito 42 1959 25 .257 .337 .512 .849 *9
Albert Pujols 41 2005 25 .330 .430 .609 1.039 *3
Frank Thomas 41 1993 25 .317 .426 .607 1.033 *3/D
Adam Dunn 40 2005 25 .247 .387 .540 .927 *73
Wally Post 40 1955 25 .309 .372 .574 .946 *9
Ralph Kiner 40 1948 25 .265 .391 .533 .924 *7
Chuck Klein 40 1930 25 .386 .436 .687 1.123 *9

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

I do like seeing Beltre number three on this list

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, remember when Richard Hidalgo was the shit?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

went downhill faster then Bill Johnson

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Baseball Prospectus cover boy. Around the same time Josh Phelps was also a BP cover boy.

Good times.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Was it Phelps or Hamilton

who were stud BA coverboys in 2000? I graduated that year so I should know but can’t remember. I think AGon was drafted 1 that year

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

BP covers

Beltre 2000
Hidalgo 2001
Dunn 2002
Phelps 2003

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I have that

it may have been the 1st or 2nd BP Prospectus I purchased. Josh Phelps helped me win a roto league the year he came up so I always had a soft spot for him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He was

roid related?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

They just showed the 4+1 game on MLBN

as part of their countdown of best games of the the last 10 years. Never get tired of watching that one.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

Happy bday Sandy

I’d forgotten that Koufax wasn’t his birth name.

But proud to say I have his autograph!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Dec 30, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

Age 26 - Had to extend cutoff to 26, big time Bell Curve going here

Cecil says hi to his son.

                                                          
Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Roger Maris 61 1961 26 .269 .372 .620 .993 *98
Babe Ruth 59 1921 26 .378 .512 .846 1.359 *78/13
Ryan Howard 58 2006 26 .313 .425 .659 1.084 *3
Alex Rodriguez 57 2002 26 .300 .392 .623 1.015 *6
Ralph Kiner 54 1949 26 .310 .432 .658 1.089 *7
Cecil Fielder 51 1990 26 .277 .377 .592 .969 *3D
Albert Pujols 49 2006 26 .331 .431 .671 1.102 *3
Ken Griffey 49 1996 26 .303 .392 .628 1.020 *8/D
Harmon Killebrew 48 1962 26 .243 .366 .545 .912 *7/3
Juan Gonzalez 47 1996 26 .314 .368 .643 1.011 *9D
Richie Sexson 45 2001 26 .271 .342 .547 .889 *3
Manny Ramirez 45 1998 26 .294 .377 .599 .976 *9/D

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Age 27 - where is the Babe you ask

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Hank Greenberg 58 1938 27 .315 .438 .683 1.122 *3
Ken Griffey 56 1997 27 .304 .382 .646 1.028 *8/D7
Todd Helton 49 2001 27 .336 .432 .685 1.116 *3
Ryan Howard 47 2007 27 .268 .392 .584 .976 *3/D
Alex Rodriguez 47 2003 27 .298 .396 .600 .995 *6/D
Kevin Mitchell 47 1989 27 .291 .388 .635 1.023 *7/5
George Bell 47 1987 27 .308 .352 .605 .957 *7/D45
Ernie Banks 47 1958 27 .313 .366 .614 .980 *6
Ralph Kiner 47 1950 27 .272 .408 .590 .998 *7
Jim Gentile 46 1961 27 .302 .423 .646 1.069 *3
Eddie Mathews 46 1959 27 .306 .390 .593 .983 *5
Chipper Jones 45 1999 27 .319 .441 .633 1.074 *5/6
Harmon Killebrew 45 1963 27 .258 .349 .555 .904 *7
Rocky Colavito 45 1961 27 .290 .402 .580 .982 *79

I’m guessing very few here every heard of Jim Gentile

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Age 28 - Los Angeles Dodger Shawn Green takes a bow

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Ken Griffey 56 1998 28 .284 .365 .611 .977 *8/D379
George Foster 52 1977 28 .320 .382 .631 1.013 *78
Andruw Jones 51 2005 28 .263 .347 .575 .922 *8
Albert Belle 50 1995 28 .317 .401 .690 1.091 *7/D
Shawn Green 49 2001 28 .297 .372 .598 .970 *9/83
Harmon Killebrew 49 1964 28 .270 .377 .548 .924 *7/9
Ryan Howard 48 2008 28 .251 .339 .543 .881 *3/D
Barry Bonds 46 1993 28 .336 .458 .677 1.136 *7
Lou Gehrig 46 1931 28 .341 .446 .662 1.108 *3/9
Richie Sexson 45 2003 28 .272 .379 .548 .927 *3
Juan Gonzalez 45 1998 28 .318 .366 .630 .997 *9D
Gorman Thomas 45 1979 28 .244 .356 .539 .895 *8/D
Hank Aaron 45 1962 28 .323 .390 .618 1.008 *89/3
Ernie Banks 45 1959 28 .304 .374 .596 .970 *6

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Age 29 - Jose Bautista with one of the more shocking seasons in my memory, right next to Beltre 2004

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Sammy Sosa 66 1998 29 .308 .377 .647 1.024 *9/8
Jose Bautista 54 2010 29 .260 .378 .617 .995 *95/3D8
Mickey Mantle 54 1961 29 .317 .448 .687 1.135 *8
Ted Kluszewski 49 1954 29 .326 .407 .642 1.049 *3
Alex Rodriguez 48 2005 29 .321 .421 .610 1.031 *5/6D
Ken Griffey 48 1999 29 .285 .384 .576 .960 *8/D
Albert Belle 48 1996 29 .311 .410 .623 1.033 *7/D
Albert Pujols 47 2009 29 .327 .443 .658 1.101 *3/D
David Ortiz 47 2005 29 .300 .397 .604 1.001 *D3
Carlos Pena 46 2007 29 .282 .411 .627 1.037 *3/D
Derrek Lee 46 2005 29 .335 .418 .662 1.080 *3
Babe Ruth 46 1924 29 .378 .513 .739 1.252 *97/8
Ryan Howard 45 2009 29 .279 .360 .571 .931 *3/D
Mike Schmidt 45 1979 29 .253 .386 .564 .950 *5/6

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Age 30

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Sammy Sosa 63 1999 30 .288 .367 .635 1.002 *98
Hack Wilson 56 1930 30 .356 .454 .723 1.177 *8
David Ortiz 54 2006 30 .287 .413 .636 1.049 *D3
Jimmie Foxx 50 1938 30 .349 .462 .704 1.166 *3
Jim Thome 49 2001 30 .291 .416 .624 1.040 *3/D
Larry Walker 49 1997 30 .366 .452 .720 1.172 *9/38D
Frank Robinson 49 1966 30 .316 .410 .637 1.047 *97/3
Mike Schmidt 48 1980 30 .286 .380 .624 1.004 *5
Dave Kingman 48 1979 30 .288 .343 .613 .956 *7
Ted Kluszewski 47 1955 30 .314 .382 .585 .967 *3
Alfonso Soriano 46 2006 30 .277 .351 .560 .911 *7
Vinny Castilla 46 1998 30 .319 .362 .589 .951 *5/6
Lance Berkman 45 2006 30 .315 .420 .621 1.041 *39/7D

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Age 31 - moved the cut off to 44 in honor of hammering hank

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Alex Rodriguez 54 2007 31 .314 .422 .645 1.067 *5/D
Jim Thome 52 2002 31 .304 .445 .677 1.122 *3D
Sammy Sosa 50 2000 31 .320 .406 .634 1.040 *9/8
Albert Belle 49 1998 31 .328 .399 .655 1.055 *7/D
Willie Mays 49 1962 31 .304 .384 .615 .999 *8
Lou Gehrig 49 1934 31 .363 .465 .706 1.172 *3/6
Willie Stargell 48 1971 31 .295 .398 .628 1.026 *7
Babe Ruth 47 1926 31 .372 .516 .737 1.253 *79/3
Willie McCovey 45 1969 31 .320 .453 .656 1.108 *3
Jay Buhner 44 1996 31 .271 .369 .557 .926 *9/D
Dale Murphy 44 1987 31 .295 .417 .580 .997 *9
Frank Howard 44 1968 31 .274 .338 .552 .890 *73
Harmon Killebrew 44 1967 31 .269 .408 .558 .965 *3/5

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Age 32 - Moved Cutoff to 40, see how long that will work - Hey Sammy Sosa hit a ton of home runs in a short period of time

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Sammy Sosa 64 2001 32 .328 .437 .737 1.174 *9
Babe Ruth 60 1927 32 .356 .486 .772 1.258 *97
Mark McGwire 52 1996 32 .312 .467 .730 1.198 *3D
Greg Vaughn 50 1998 32 .272 .363 .597 .960 *7/D
Brady Anderson 50 1996 32 .297 .396 .637 1.034 *8/D
Andre Dawson 49 1987 32 .287 .328 .568 .896 *9
Frank Howard 48 1969 32 .296 .402 .574 .976 *73/9
Jim Thome 47 2003 32 .266 .385 .573 .958 *3/D
Jeff Bagwell 47 2000 32 .310 .424 .615 1.039 *3/D
Jermaine Dye 44 2006 32 .315 .385 .622 1.006 *9
Hank Aaron 44 1966 32 .279 .356 .539 .895 *9/84
Manny Ramirez 43 2004 32 .308 .397 .613 1.009 *7D
Javy Lopez 43 2003 32 .328 .378 .687 1.065 *2/D
Frank Thomas 43 2000 32 .328 .436 .625 1.061 *D3
Billy Williams 42 1970 32 .322 .391 .586 .977 *7/9
Jason Giambi 41 2003 32 .250 .412 .527 .939 *3D
Jay Buhner 40 1997 32 .243 .383 .506 .889 *9/D
Barry Bonds 40 1997 32 .291 .446 .585 1.031 *7

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

Eric - your favorite is on the list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Greg Vaughn? Providing my last roto victory?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Bingo

just get the man some glasses

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Age 33 - I'm sure we are all shocked at how often 2001/2002 seasons are cropping up

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Mark McGwire 58 1997 33 .274 .393 .646 1.039 *3
Luis Gonzalez 57 2001 33 .325 .429 .688 1.117 *7
Babe Ruth 54 1928 33 .323 .463 .709 1.172 *97
Sammy Sosa 49 2002 33 .288 .399 .594 .993 *9
Harmon Killebrew 49 1969 33 .276 .427 .584 1.011 *53
Lou Gehrig 49 1936 33 .354 .478 .696 1.174 *3
Willie Mays 47 1964 33 .296 .383 .607 .990 *8/635
Jose Canseco 46 1998 33 .237 .318 .518 .836 *D79
Manny Ramirez 45 2005 33 .292 .388 .594 .982 *7/D
Greg Vaughn 45 1999 33 .245 .347 .535 .881 *7/D
Willie Stargell 44 1973 33 .299 .392 .646 1.038 *7
Frank Howard 44 1970 33 .283 .416 .546 .962 *73/9
Rafael Palmeiro 43 1998 33 .296 .379 .565 .945 *3/D
Jim Thome 42 2004 33 .274 .396 .581 .977 *3/D
Ken Caminiti 40 1996 33 .326 .408 .621 1.028 *5
Mike Schmidt 40 1983 33 .255 .399 .524 .923 *5/6

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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

What is going on here!?

I thought we were talking about Kyle Russell :)

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

Age 34 - Jim Edmunds

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Mark McGwire 70 1998 34 .299 .470 .752 1.222 *3
Willie Mays 52 1965 34 .317 .398 .645 1.043 *8/97
Johnny Mize 51 1947 34 .302 .384 .614 .998 *3
Rafael Palmeiro 47 1999 34 .324 .420 .630 1.050 *D3
Babe Ruth 46 1929 34 .345 .430 .697 1.128 *97
Jim Edmonds 42 2004 34 .301 .418 .643 1.061 *8/D3
David Justice 41 2000 34 .286 .377 .584 .961 79D/8
Reggie Jackson 41 1980 34 .300 .398 .597 .995 *9D
Harmon Killebrew 41 1970 34 .271 .411 .546 .957 *53
Sammy Sosa 40 2003 34 .279 .358 .553 .911 *9

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Age 35 - Johnny Mize was a good old baseball player

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Mark McGwire 65 1999 35 .278 .424 .697 1.120 *3
Barry Bonds 49 2000 35 .306 .440 .688 1.127 *7
Babe Ruth 49 1930 35 .359 .493 .732 1.225 *97/1
Andres Galarraga 47 1996 35 .304 .357 .601 .958 *3/5
Hank Aaron 44 1969 35 .300 .396 .607 1.003 *9/3
Hank Greenberg 44 1946 35 .277 .373 .604 .977 *3
Jim Thome 42 2006 35 .288 .416 .598 1.014 *D/3
Frank Thomas 42 2003 35 .267 .390 .562 .952 *D3
Cy Williams 41 1923 35 .293 .371 .576 .947 *8
Johnny Mize 40 1948 35 .289 .395 .564 .959 *3

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

I know nothing of this Cy Williams

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

He was the home run leader in the NL the year Ruth hit 51.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

but I have no recollection of having heard of him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I just know that because Eric mentioned it 200 posts ago.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I always mix him up with Ken Williams, the first 30-30 man (in 1922)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Age 36 - finally had to drop the cut off to 35 get at least 10 - Manny Manny Manny

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Barry Bonds 73 2001 36 .328 .515 .863 1.379 *7/D
Rafael Palmeiro 47 2001 36 .273 .381 .563 .944 *3D
Babe Ruth 46 1931 36 .373 .495 .700 1.195 *97/3
Andres Galarraga 41 1997 36 .318 .389 .585 .974 *3
Reggie Jackson 39 1982 36 .275 .375 .532 .907 *9/D
Carlos Delgado 38 2008 36 .271 .353 .518 .871 *3/D
Hank Aaron 38 1970 36 .298 .385 .574 .958 *93
Manny Ramirez 37 2008 36 .332 .430 .601 1.031 *7D
Mike Schmidt 37 1986 36 .290 .390 .547 .937 *53
Jim Thome 35 2007 36 .275 .410 .563 .973 *D/3
Vinny Castilla 35 2004 36 .271 .332 .535 .867 *5
Gary Gaetti 35 1995 36 .261 .329 .518 .846 *53/D

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

Age 37 - Carlton Fisk performing at an incredible level at age 37

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Hank Aaron 47 1971 37 .327 .410 .669 1.079 *39/7
Barry Bonds 46 2002 37 .370 .582 .799 1.381 *7/D
Andres Galarraga 44 1998 37 .305 .397 .595 .991 *3/D
Rafael Palmeiro 43 2002 37 .273 .391 .571 .962 *3D
Hank Sauer 41 1954 37 .288 .375 .563 .938 *9/7
Babe Ruth 41 1932 37 .341 .489 .661 1.150 *97/3
Moises Alou 39 2004 37 .293 .361 .557 .919 *7/D
Edgar Martinez 37 2000 37 .324 .423 .579 1.002 *D/3
Carlton Fisk 37 1985 37 .238 .320 .488 .808 *2D
Mike Schmidt 35 1987 37 .293 .388 .548 .936 *5/36
Dave Kingman 35 1986 37 .210 .255 .431 .686 *D/3

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Age 38 for Michael White - Rafy is very prevalent on these over 30 lists, has to be one of the leaders in history for over 30 home runs

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Barry Bonds 45 2003 38 .341 .529 .749 1.278 *7/D
Darrell Evans 40 1985 38 .248 .356 .519 .875 *3D/5
Frank Thomas 39 2006 38 .270 .381 .545 .926 *D
Rafael Palmeiro 38 2003 38 .260 .359 .508 .867 *D3
Ted Williams 38 1957 38 .388 .526 .731 1.257 *7
Hank Aaron 34 1972 38 .265 .390 .514 .904 *39
Babe Ruth 34 1933 38 .301 .442 .582 1.023 *97/13
Rico Carty 31 1978 38 .282 .348 .502 .850 *D
Fred McGriff 30 2002 38 .273 .353 .505 .858 *3/D

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

Had to drop the cut off all the way down to 30

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey that 2002 season looks pretty good. We should sign him, and get the benefit of him hitting HR #500 as a Dodger…

by Eric Stephen on Dec 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like there is some sarcasm in this comment.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if they ever got rid of the sign they had ready.

by delias man on Dec 30, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Age 39 - Steve Finley LA Dodgers and the durn Cy Williams again

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Barry Bonds 45 2004 39 .362 .609 .812 1.422 *7/D
Hank Aaron 40 1973 39 .301 .402 .643 1.045 *79
Steve Finley 36 2004 39 .271 .333 .490 .823 *8/D
Willie Stargell 32 1979 39 .281 .352 .552 .904 *3
Cy Williams 30 1927 39 .274 .365 .502 .867 *9

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Age 40 - Mr. Evans stands alone

Rk Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos

1 Darrell Evans 34 1987 40 .257 .379 .501 .880 *3D/5

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Phils wife: " So honey, what did you do this morning?"

by Michael White on Dec 30, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to the Julio Franco part.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

HA!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Age 41

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Ted Williams 29 1960 41 .316 .451 .645 1.096 *7
Barry Bonds 26 2006 41 .270 .454 .545 .999 *7/D
Darrell Evans 22 1988 41 .208 .337 .380 .717 3D
Dave Winfield 21 1993 41 .271 .325 .442 .767 *D9/3

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

You know you're a G when....

1.096 OPS at age 41.

He really would have been a G if he knew what OPS was in 1960.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

“Hey Ted Williams, did you know you’re got a wicked high OPS?”

“No I always used a rubber, you must be mistaken”

by Josie Becker on Dec 30, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Age 42 - now he stands alone

Rk Player HR Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos

1 Barry Bonds 28 2007 42 SFG NL 126 477 340 75 94 14 0 66 132 43 54 3 0 2 13 5 0 .276 .480 .565 1.045 *7/D

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

Age 43

Player HR Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
Carlton Fisk 18 1991 43 .241 .299 .413 .712 *2D3
Carl Yastrzemski 10 1983 43 .266 .359 .408 .767 *D/37

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Age 44 - For Reg

Rk Player HR Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos

1 Julio Franco 5 2003 44 ATL NL 103 223 197 28 58 12 2 31 25 5 43 0 0 1 8 0 1 .294 .372 .452 .824 *3

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Age 45 For Reg

Rk Player HR Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos

1 Julio Franco 6 2004 45 ATL NL 125 361 320 37 99 18 3 57 36 4 68 1 1 3 10 4 2 .309 .378 .441 .818 *3/D

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Josie I lost your commie post in the thread

Don’t worry :)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Dec 30, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Age 46 for Reg

Rk Player HR Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos

1 Julio Franco 9 2005 46 ATL NL 108 265 233 30 64 12 1 42 27 1 57 1 1 3 10 4 0 .275 .348 .451 .799 *3/D

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

Most home runs under the age of 26

Player HR From To Age SLG OPS Pos Tm
Alex Rodriguez 241 1994 2001 18-25 .571 .949 *6/D SEA-TEX
Eddie Mathews 222 1952 1957 20-25 .556 .943 *5/7 BSN-MLN
Jimmie Foxx 222 1925 1933 17-25 .638 1.073 *35/2967 PHA
Mel Ott 211 1926 1934 17-25 .554 .966 *98/745 NYG
Mickey Mantle 207 1951 1957 19-25 .574 1.002 *89/645 NYY
Frank Robinson 202 1956 1961 20-25 .561 .946 *739/85 CIN
Albert Pujols 201 2001 2005 21-25 .621 1.037 *37/59D6 STL

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Most home runs from age 26 - 30

Player HR From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
Ken Griffey 249 1996 2000 26-30 .290 .382 .604 .986 *8/D739 SEA-CIN
Sammy Sosa 241 1995 1999 26-30 .278 .343 .567 .909 *9/8 CHC
Ryan Howard 229 2006 2010 26-30 .278 .374 .573 .947 *3/D PHI
Alex Rodriguez 223 2002 2006 26-30 .299 .395 .575 .970 *56/D TEX-NYY
Ralph Kiner 215 1949 1953 26-30 .283 .414 .578 .991 *7/3 PIT-TOT
Albert Pujols 207 2006 2010 26-30 .330 .435 .628 1.064 *3/D4 STL
Duke Snider 207 1953 1957 26-30 .311 .407 .618 1.025 *8 BRO
Jimmie Foxx 207 1934 1938 26-30 .330 .440 .632 1.072 *3/2579 PHA-BOS
Harmon Killebrew 206 1962 1966 26-30 .264 .374 .539 .913 *753/9 MIN
Babe Ruth 206 1921 1925 26-30 .357 .490 .728 1.218 *79/831 NYY
Ernie Banks 205 1957 1961 26-30 .291 .359 .572 .932 *6/573 CHC
Albert Belle 202 1993 1997 26-30 .306 .387 .604 .991 *7/D CLE-CHW
Manny Ramirez 201 1998 2002 26-30 .324 .424 .640 1.064 *9D7 CLE-BOS

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

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Most home runs from age 31 - 35

Rk Player HR From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
1 Mark McGwire 284 1995 1999 31-35 .287 .438 .702 1.140 *3/D OAK-TOT-STL
2 Babe Ruth 256 1926 1930 31-35 .350 .479 .730 1.209 *97/31 NYY
3 Sammy Sosa 238 2000 2004 31-35 .295 .390 .612 1.002 *9/8D CHC
4 Willie Mays 223 1962 1966 31-35 .304 .382 .601 .984 *8/96735 SFG
5 Rafael Palmeiro 206 1996 2000 31-35 .290 .381 .556 .937 *3D BAL-TEX
6 Barry Bonds 202 1996 2000 31-35 .296 .438 .622 1.060 *7/8D SFG

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Most home runs from age 36 - 40

Player HR From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
Barry Bonds 214 2001 2005 36-40 .347 .556 .805 1.361 *7/D SFG
Hank Aaron 179 1970 1974 36-40 .294 .388 .583 .971 937 ATL
Rafael Palmeiro 169 2001 2005 36-40 .266 .368 .510 .879 *3D TEX-BAL

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Most home runs from age 41 and up

Rk Player HR From To Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
1 Barry Bonds 54 2006 2007 41-42 .273 .467 .554 1.021 *7/D SFG
2 Carlton Fisk 53 1989 1993 41-45 .264 .336 .421 .757 *2/D3 CHW

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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 30, 2010 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

Happy New Year Everyone

I am off for the weekend and won’t be connected to the internet or have much cell service. I’m bummed I’m probably going to initially miss the prospect lists.

by BFDC on Dec 30, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

and our trade for Ryan Braun.

take it easy, buddy.

*tips cap*

by G.Scott on Dec 30, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re trading for another relief pitcher?

by Tripon on Dec 30, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

when he's taken out

they’re gonna hit him with a pie

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 30, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Braun the pitcher should just get traded around the league constantly to fuck with people.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Dec 30, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

greatest call in the history of sports

this has probably been posted on here before, but this is vin’s 9th inning call of koufax’s perfect game in 65’ (maybe the greatest of all 20 perfect games ever thrown)

http://www.doubledogmusic.com/baseball/Scully_Koufax_Perfect.mp3

"I think people fail to remember that he was the second of their first draft choices. So it’s not taking as big of a risk if people think it’s a risk as people, uh… think."
John Lynch on The Teeblerator

by punty mcbunty on Dec 30, 2010 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Jeez, that’s my childhood right there. Pretty lucky I guess..

by Freddy V on Dec 30, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I was camping up in the Sierra's

listening to that game.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Dec 30, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

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