A Brief Dodgers Offseason Recap To Date
by Eric Stephen on Dec 4, 2010 7:30 AM PST
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Nothing is worse than a clip show, but it's a Saturday morning and I wanted to sleep in, so here we are. Here is a quick recap of the Dodgers offseason so far. The Winter Meetings don't even start until Monday, but the Dodgers have been the busiest team in the early going this winter. The Dodgers closed their regular season with 40 players on their 40-man roster, and have made the following moves to date:
Departures (9): Brad Ausmus (retired), Reed Johnson, Russell Martin (non-tender), Trent Oeltjen (non-tender), Vicente Padilla, Scott Podsednik, George Sherrill (non-tender), Ryan Theriot (via trade), Jeff Weaver
Non Free Agent Additions (4): Hector Gimenez, Blake Hawksworth (via trade), Jamie Hoffmann, Luis Vazquez
Free Agent Additions (6; 2 new): Four of the six free agents signed by the Dodgers this winter were here last year, while Jon Garland and Juan Uribe have joined the blue crew. The Dodgers have signed six free agents for a total guaranteed salary of $74.9 million:
| Dodgers Free Agents Signed This Winter | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pos | Player | Date | Total Contract | 2011 Salary |
| SP | Ted Lilly | Oct 19 | 3 yrs, $33 million | $7,500,000 |
| OF/1B | Jay Gibbons* |
Nov 4 | 1 yr, $650,000 |
$650,000 |
| SP | Hiroki Kuroda |
Nov 15 | 1 yr, $12 million | $8,000,000 |
| SP | Jon Garland* |
Nov 26 | 1 yr, $5 million, plus option |
$3,500,000 |
| IF | Juan Uribe |
Nov 30 | 3 yrs, $21 million | $5,000,000 |
| C | Rod Barajas |
Dec 3 | 1 yr, $3.25 million | $3,250,000 |
*Gibbons ($150,000) and Garland ($3.525 million) have performance bonuses in their contracts as well. For more details, you can check out the payroll worksheet, which is always linked on the right sidebar of every page.
There are currently 37 players on the Dodgers' 40-man roster.
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I like Stevie Ray Vaughn's pride and joy better
but the payroll sheet is cool too
The monkey is out of the bottle.
They’re sending Casey Kelly to SD as the headliner. A high ceiling arm who struggled in AA. Basically, Chris Withrow.
But if the Dodgers wanted A-Gon, they’d have to fork over the entire farm…and Billingsley.
wow!
Casey Kelly and Anthony Rizzo. That’s great for the Pads. Even trade, in my opinion.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 4, 2010 8:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
rizzo is overrated
hes a firstbasemen posting a .800 OPS…
equivalent trade would be withrow=kelly (both sucked in AA as 20,21 year olds)
rizzo=sands — power bats in AA
we dont have anyone like raymond fuentes, but trayvon is better…
would u guys trade withrow sands and Trayvon for adrian?
For a division rival Pads would probably ask for more than that even
Sigh. Sounds like Pads are getting more than those two guys though? There’s at least one more player to be named. I thought they also wanted a ML player too tho?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
sand/trayvon/withrow for gonz?
in half a heartbeat… if heartbeats are cut in half, and they aren’t…. but you get the idea. heck yes. and i think a couple of those players might turn out to be decent. but gonzales is an in-his-prime superstar tied up for at least a year, who might be wooed by LA…. such players what you hope your farm might produce.
The caption on the previous thread
was very funny by the way, Uribe and Barajas only making one out.
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I’ve went from a productive team member where I work, to a compulsive poster.
You think Eric will pay me to post?
:)
by keithc13 on Dec 4, 2010 6:09 AM PST up reply actions
He might pay you not to post
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The line that jumps out to me and warms my cold heart
George Sherrill (non-tendered).
Mark Reynolds?
The Diamondbacks are looking for 2 relievers for Mark Reynolds. I know he strikes out a lot but he does have power and plays a position of need. Maybe trade Lindblom and Link for Reynolds then sign Damon for LF.Then we would have a lineup of Furcal,Damon,Kemp,Ethier,Reynolds,Loney,Uribe and Barajas. That lineup looks pretty good to me.
They might be looking for major league relief pitchers
not minor league relief pitchers who are a dime a dozen.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
sorry
if that was snarky, but I tire of trade proposals where players who have at least one excellent skill (Reynolds – power) get traded for fringe players. Yeah he had a .8 WAR last year, lower than Loney’s for example, but he won’t be traded within the NL West for just those guys.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Some teams could handle Reynolds
but we can’t, not with Uribe and Barajas in the fold.
Damon might help since at t his point we need someone to get on base.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good point on Reynolds.
I’m not sold on Damon. He’s aging and makes Juan Pierre look like Roberto Clemente arm-wise. But you’re correct…someone has to get on!
We need Damon at the top of our lineup to get on. We also need Reynolds becuase we need a power threat to protect Ethier and Kemp so teams can’t pitch around them.
Doesn't Reynolds also suck defensively?
Honestly I see him as a DH for some team that has a lineup, as Phil says, that can handle his flaws.
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he's average
I don’t know about last year, but he had a positive UZR in 09
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
AGon
was delivered for the Red Sox number 1 and 8 prospects according to HQ, if the deal was only Kelly, Rizzo. Amazing, to bad we were in the same division.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Even if we weren't in the same division
I don’t think our prospects rate as highly, and maybe that is due to the media hype machine that the Red Sox attract, but it seems we haven’t been able to get a top player in his prime, either because we don’t manage our resources correctly or we can’t commit long-term money.
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I would have given the Padres our entire farm system for him. See, why are we never the ones making these kinds of deals. For the most part, guys coming in from trades are not costing the arm and leg everyone thinks they would, or the prospects are developing if it looks like they did. Instead we pay a premium for relievers. SMH. Some guy was trying to tell me it would basically cost something like this just to get Josh Willingham, yeah no it’s not going to be close.
Since the firesale has begun, can we please get Ludwick and have him play right and move Ethier to left? I promise not to say anything bad about you Ned if you do this, for like at least a month.
Hopefully one day McCourt realizes that letting Colletti spend his money is a bad idea. At least on offense, since he doesn’t even glance at OBP while making decisions.
if the Dodgers have a bad year in '11
he’ll be gone, so at least it might be a win-win proposition. If the Dodgers make a run at the playoffs but come up short, I don’t know what happens.
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McCourt’s first mission is to fill the seats
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
So basically the Padres wanted to punt last season and trade Agon, but they frakked that up with winning, so they had to wait til the offseason to declare their desire to punt next season
Big contract leaving town
and no MLB contract coming back
Introducing your new San Diego Pirates?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Good job so far
Coletti has done a good job so far with the $$ he has used.
SP was biggest gap..he filled it with 3 very good FA
Traded theriot who was good for nothing and got something.
We had a terrible power gap in our lineup..#2 from last in NL in HRs.. and got Uribe and Barajas for a total of $9M( (2011) adding 32 hrs more than theriot/Carroll..martin/ellis gave us…
maybe OBP went down with Uribe and Barajas but at end of lineup who cares.
Now he needs to fill LF power gap with some FA and get a another RP like Padilla..
If he does all that..he did Ok.
How much did Ausmus get from the Dodgers?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
1. Reminder that last season Ned thought Barajas was worth less than Ellis.
by regfairfield on Dec 4, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
72 At Bats
that changed the course of history?
You’d think so the way this guy got a 650% raise.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
A-Gon is gone from the division!
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Traded for projection and wishes. Love it.
by regfairfield on Dec 4, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Yup. Fine by me.
The Pads surprised last year so maybe they will again, but you can generally count them out as a contender next season, one less team to worry about. Rockies and Giants should again be Dodgers main worries. Don’t mind seeing the division’s arguably most dangerous slugger gone.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(my dad the Yankee fan is unhappy though)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(if they sign Beltre then he will be very, very unhappy?)
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
The Padres are still a concern because you still have to play those games and still have to fatten up against them. If you take them lightly and the rest of the division beats them, those 18 games could be your whole season.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
What’s more dangerous than a doormat with good, young pitching?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Of course. I would hope Dodgers wouldn't take them lightly
since they have struggled vs them even when Pads are down. Nothing can be assumed, but it’s preferable to have that team’s best player gone and to feel you can stay ahead of them.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Of course I'm not suggesting I'd rather see Gonzalez still on the Padres
But if the goal is to win a world series, and not just make the playoffs, then you have to like having the best players scattered, rather than assembled in the Northeast.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Right. I'm not happy he'sin the AL East either
(rich get richer, etc) but I’m just focusing on our division…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Swede? But he’s a fictional character.
/obscure literary reference
by Josie Becker on Dec 4, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I think he might mean
Youkilis, the “Greek” god of Walks.
When he was a prosect
he had the nickname the “Greek” god of walks. He later came out and said that he was not Greek, but Jewish.
Yeah, baby! My first Wi-Fi post.
Too bad there’s no Z button to use :)
by silverwidow on Dec 4, 2010 12:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
are you on the mobile version or the full version?
if the full version, I have occasionally gotten the z buttonto work on my droid
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Mobile. I’m not used to typing with my index finger but this is still awesoke.
by silverwidow on Dec 4, 2010 12:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
or are you that guy
from the BK commercial?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Maybe they're not opposable........
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
does this help?
Just saw 5 or so hours of the Shoah
my soul hurts.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Owie
How’d you like it? Was it, was it heavy? Did it achieve total heaviosity?
(Annie Hall)
That movie is so important, and so… tough.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It was interesting (and very, very heavy)
what’s even more interesting is that my professor thinks that the guy who made the film is a total and complete asshole
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
hah
Lanzmann?
On his Wikipedia page:
Lanzmann has disagreed, sometimes angrily, with attempts to understand the why of Hitler, stating that the evil of Hitler cannot or should not be explained and that to do so is immoral and an obscenity.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Now you should follow it by watching
The Sorrow and the Pity.
(Another Annie Hall reference)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
yeah
Lanzmann. I’ll find out more dirt later and let you know. He also seems to hate Polish people.
I had to leave after the barbershop scene. I cannot take old men crying. It breaks my heart.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
from wiki
the SS guy in the film was supposed to do the interview anonymously, but they secretly filmed him
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
well there are two SS guys, that I saw
one of them did agree to do it anonymously but was lied to. He was going to sue Lanzmann but then died before he could get anywhere with the case.
The other one had be tried and while he was found to be NOT innocent, he was a major witness because he was completely upfront/forthcoming about what happened. I believe he sings a work songs that Jews at Triblinka had to learn.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Interesting side note
Pauline Kael, maybe the greatest American film critic, famously called it “a long moan” IIRC and said it lacked the moral complexity of a great work. She was called anti-Semitic by some of the film’s many supporters who wanted it to win some critic film awards, but Kael had a lot of pull and won out.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
don't agree with me?
You are a racist. Ridiculous.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
OSU needs to score 30 in the first half
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
“You lay out with two hands. That’s why you have two hands.”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 4, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Really fun article
about a couple of rare cases of salary arbitration, on Biz of Baseball, by Maury Brown.
Andre Ethier chimes in
per Boston Herald:
"He’s one of the better left-handed hitters in the game," said Ethier, who is close friends with Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia. "I don’t think he’s gotten enough credit for the way he’s been playing the last few years, in that park and on the teams he’s been on. He definitely has power to go to dead right-center. I heard they may be moving in right-center a little bit. That’ll definitely play into his advantage. We in LA were trying to get him a few years back. I know a lot of teams were. It’s one of those things where you can’t see him not being a Padre, but it’s a great pickup for Boston."
just curious
but why sigh
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I want(ed) Adrian in LA
even if the trade rumor a few years ago wasn’t close to reality. It sucks that some teams just get what they want, and the rest get the scraps, like the Dodgers.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
ah
well, to be fair, we are in the same division, whereas the BoSox are in the AL East. :)
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I know
but it’s the continuation of a trend, where a flagship MLB franchise in the #2 market hasn’t had any franchise players (except for half a season of Manny) since Rupert Murdoch’s fucking corporation traded away the best-hitting catcher of all time.
Rant over. This will all change when we acquire Al Pujols (see below).
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Dream big, bro
I wholly support it. :)
Whenever I start to get frustrated, I remember that I could live in Kansas City instead.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
you realize
that I don’t give two shits about football or this town, right? Therefore I have no idea what this picture is referring to OR why I should care, being from Los Angeles.
Wait, is this about the shutout the other day?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Hey, look, it's not only the McCourts
Look at those Steinbrenners, via YES:
As part of Jeter’s deal, the Yankees have convinced the shortstop to defer an undisclosed amount of money. Mariano Rivera, who has agreed to a 2-year, $30 million deal, has also agreed to defer an undisclosed amount.
doesn't matter
Fred and McCourt are the devil and your facts can gf themselves
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Dominos fall
Gonzo to Boston as he should. Youk to 3b. Big market, big payroll.
SD gets younger and cheaper as they should. Small market business model.
Lee still likely NYY.
ANA, NYY, Bos in on Crawford, Werth?
Does Arte or Beane want/get Beltre?
Where does Beltre and Boras go with winter meetings upon us?
I feel we are players likely to put out an offer that falls far short. That may be the right thing with Boras but given organizational depth or lack of at 3b coupled with possible old flame renewed, Beltre fits the Dodgers organization like a glove.
Wish it would happen.
rangers in on crawford also
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
has anyone seen that guy in the crowd
that is rocking a Lion’s Mane? Dude has got hair everywhere and a massive beard….it’s crazy…..
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Some great SB Nation talk I was reading yesterday on the SB Boston site. Just talking Justin Upton , age 23, Capable of WAR 5 to 7 making him a one of a kind, impact guy and trading for 3-4 prospects…not just a case of making up that 5 or 7 in WAR with 3 or 4 guys…I didn’t totally get it but the point relevant was the 3-4 guys you trade, prospect or not, are mitigated by the guys you REPLACE them with. So you get Upton, but you could have other guys in the system or free agency to replace 1,2 or 3 of the guys you trade if your farm is good enough …so you get Upton or a Gonzo and lose a bit but not all and you get that one superior impact guy. Something like that.A league leading type of payroll helps too.
Point here is we have nobody in the system for 3 years capable of 3b and no one on FA but Beltre unless we trade a Winthrow, a Gordon for other 3b prospects…and that RARELY happens…not sure Ned could fathom it.
In other words, give Beltre his 5 or 6 year deal after pretending you don’t love him Ned.
Was It Not Clear To You that The Uribe Signing Was In Part About Filling the 3B Void?
Blake this year, Uribe at 3B in 20012 and 2013. You may not like it, but that’s the plan.
heh
Why not give Beltre a deal with the ability to opt out after 2 years?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
So what's left for LA now?
I’m thinking two of: Jack Cust, Matt Diaz, Jeff Francoeur, Marcus Thames, Tony Gwynn Jr, Lastings Milledge. And Ned might sign himself a reliever.
And would Milton Bradley get an NRI possibly? He did have a sub-.300 OBP; is he a Ned guy now?
Be prepared for Dodger dealings at the Winter Meetings that ‘come out of Left Field’?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 4, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
You stick Jack Cust in LF
and the Earl Weaver school of “Pitching and the 3-Run Homer” gets replaced in LA by the “Pitching, four solo homers, and God please let Cust catch the ball” model.
Surprise, Surprise
jonmorosi
#STLCards announce one year deal for Berkman. Call him “outfielder/first baseman” in release. OF likely! #MLB #STL
I think Berkman will play first.
Its not likethey have a 1b
berkman will be their starting 1b.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Trade in the works??
I doubt it, but I’m entertaining the thought.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
that would be ridiculous
Maybe we’re getting Pujols. :)
Hahahahahahahahahaha. :(
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
So who else do we throw in besides Kershaw, Jansen and maybe Kemp?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re the Cardinals, who do you ask for in return for your entire franchise?
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
the better question
is do you try to trade him mid-season or let him get to FA
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
if I’m the Cards and I’m not going to keep him, I get a kickass haul I can’t refuse now, or I get one last chance to go all the way.
If I’m the Dodgers, it’s just whatever chance I have.
But seriously, if he’s not going long-term with the Cards, he’s not going long-term with anyone who isn’t paying top dollar. And the Dodgers aren’t paying top dollar for Pujols until his OBP drops to .300, which will require him not walking and hitting at least 30 sac flies.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
heh
now that would be something
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
seriously
Berkman has nowhere to play in St. Louis except first. RF? Will the Dodgers suddenly solve their OBP problem? :)
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
if Ned could swing that
I think he would be exonerated. Feelings?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
But let's be honest
what the hell would get that accomplished? Would we be willing to give the entire farm?
I dunno if I would be, unless we get to keep Sands or someone else who is under the mainstream radar…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
exonerated and exalted i think
well…if they can extend him, and why the fuck wouldn’t you. But yeah, a Pujols deal would be like a 6 for 1, and we would definately need to include Billz I think.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
ok so
Billz
Trayvon
Gordon
Sands
Withrow
Miller?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Judges?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I had a brief glimmer of hope for the 2011 season
aaaaaaaand it’s gone.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
That OF defense is gonna be awesome
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Berkman
wouldn’t have to worry about a soft liner hitting him in the groin in LF, maybe just bouncing off his double chin
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Jeter's contract
per Jack Curry of YES:
Jeter’s deal is 3 yrs, $51 million with player option for $8 million in the 4th yr. Jeter also can earn $9 mill in incentives for 4th year.
I’ve always wondered, if a guy has a player option gets DFA’d before hand, can the player exercise the player option with the new team and have the old team still paying all but the minimum of his salary?
No
The designating for assignment means the option is done, and the old team would owe the player the buyout.
Too much for a guy who will decline quickly...
"Oh ville lumière, sens la chaleur de notre coeur, vois-tu notre ferveur quand nous marchons près de toi. Dans cette conquête, chasser l'ennemi, enfin pour que nos couleurs brillent encore..."
"Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap) et nous chantons en choeur (clap clap clap clap). Nous sommes les parisiens (clap clap clap clap), fidèles à nos couleurs (clap clap clap clap). Lololo lololo, lololo lololo"
Kiss my Aul[ass], hahaha
The escalators in the 4th year are based on an elaborate point system, per Mark Feinsand:
The points system involves finishing 1st-6th in AL MVP, winning Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, ALCS & WS MVP. Any will boost value of 4th year.
extra points for Minka Kelly
he’ll prob win the GG anyway at 40, just because he’s Derek Jee-tah
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Rosenthal
Source: Negotiating window for #RedSox to complete deal with Gonzalez expires at 2 pm ET Sunday.
LOL if this doesn’t get done.
what happens if it doesn’t get done?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
The Red Sox boo him mercilessly on June 20, 2011, when the Padres are in Boston, for not agreeing to a contract extension.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
actually, Jonathan Papelbon will probably be the only player to scream nasty things at him from the bullpen. But the fans will be pissed.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
every team in the league now knows the cost in prospects. After this, they’ll know what his salary demands are. They’ll all then look at themselves in the mirror and wonder if they can pull that off. If yes, he gets traded, if not, either a team will trade for him without the extension window, or he’ll stay in SD and become a trade deadline mercenary.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Any chance Colby Rasmus gets moved by the Cardinals? He would be one guy that I would try and get. Would Robinson,Miller,DeJesus,and Lindblom be fair for Rasmus.
Cardinals are going HAM
trying to make sure the Reds don’t repeat last season in that division
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I dunno, I think that adding Berkman is good, right? Not dealing Rasmus…making a strong OF.
Or are you referring to my use of “HAM”?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
PS
I am going to keep the Tshirt Slogan thread open for another day to give everyone one last chance to exercise their wit.
Then we can vote! HOORAY!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
his lowest OBP in his career last year would have probably been our highest last season. Ugh, I’d much rather have Berkman for 1 year at 8 million than any of the other moves we made.
I'd put it at a close second to signing Kuroda to a one year deal
But ahead of Lilly’s 3 year, and WAY ahead of Barajas, Uribe, or Garland. I know you’re not supposed to cry over spilled milk, but what about milk that spills continuously?
I
Still like all the deals for the starters and taking care of that now. But then I had no expectation of a big offensive signing.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 4:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't either
But I think it’s fair to say that given what we’ve seen over the past week, signing Berkman for a year instead of Barajas and Uribe could have happened. Now, it’s debatable whether Berkman SHOULD have been signed over Barajas and Uribe, all things being equal. The problem is, given the amounts of cash doled out to the new guys, all things aren’t equal, and I’d much rather have Berkman on the team. Believe me, I hope I’m wrong.
problem is
it’s harder to find catchers and second basemen in this market, especially ones with 15-20 HR capability, so if they didn’t sign Rod B and Uribe we’d still be left with Theriot and 6 mil for a catcher who might not even play 100 games and hasn’t hit with authority since the first half of 2008. There aren’t many options out there.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
to be fair to Ned (see? I try)
I just remembered hearing something about Berkman not wanting to play on the west coast a little while back. So perhaps that played into it. Still doesn’t justify all the other money being spent so freely all of a sudden, but maybe Berkman was never really an option.
not sure
his defense in the OF might be laughable, and his bat is eroding quickly, if not his batting eye. The LF question has yet to be resolved, let’s see…
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Well if it wasn't obvious before, it's clear now that Ned completely ignores OBP
It’s one thing to debate some of the finer points in Moneyball. It’s another to just disregard one of the most important ideas to enter the mainstream of baseball executives over the past 10 years.
Padres next step has to be dealing Heath Bell..
Then it’ll be Ryan Ludwick, and 24 minimum salaried guys.
Cam Newton is locking up the Heisman today..
I cant see the game but I assume his 51 yard TD pass with 0 time left on the clock at the end of the 1st half was a hail mary..
Toronto Sun believes the Jays are trying to acquire Greinke. A deal that included Drabek, Snider and prospects might get it done.
that would be good for both sides
Toronto might be a really good fit for him
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
With Berkman gone who do you guys think will be our LF next season? Two guys that I’d want are Carlos Beltran and Josh Willingham.
I just want to get a good leftfielder. I know I’ve talked about it a lot but I think it will be our most important move of the offseason.
I would disagree
Respectfully, when you only have 2 legit starters under your control going into the off-season, the Dodgers needed to deal with that first. Left field might be the biggest decision now, but it was probably between 3rd and 5th in October.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 4:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with you BH, though like D4L i hope for a good LF
making sure we had a solid rotation going into ST was a great move. If we had already signed a bunch of bats but no pitchers, I’m sure we’d all be more distressed then we are now.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Smells like…. skank.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
A football game by chance?
Josie must be happy that TCU will not go to the BCS Title game.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 4:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The only
Question left, will Stanford still finish in 4th place in the final BCS standings.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 4:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
UCLA and USC
Football teams are still not at the Rose Bowl. #7:30gametimesucks
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
My ultimate point
Still is valid. :)
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Grades for each of those FA signings:
Lilly: B-. This contract’ll look good in 2011, but it’s a mystery beyond that. Three years and $33 million is good for a #3 starter, but it remains to be seen if Lilly can be just that as he enters his mid-to-late thirties.
Gibbons: B+. Solid lefty bat off the bench capable of playing first base and outfield, hit pretty well in that role last year, and the contract value was under $1 million? Decent snag, Ned.
Kuroda: B+. You do have to realize that Ned had virtually no competition here; it was either Dodgers or home for Kuroda. I also deduct points for having to pay Kuroda $2 million in 2012 and $2 million in 2013, when he’ll be chilling out with his family in Japan. Still, this so far has probably been the steal of the entire offseason.
Garland: C+. One year and $5 million (with incentives) is a solid get for Garland…of course, the money could have been better spent on the offense, and there’s a vesting option for $8 million that Garland will almost certainly reach, as durability is one of his (few) good qualities as a pitcher. So really, the contract is for 2 years and $13 million, which again isn’t bad, but not good either. Especially considering that we still don’t have a left fielder for 2011 but we DO have four starting pitchers making $5 million or more.
Uribe: C-. Uribe MIGHT be worth the $5 million that we’ll pay him in 2011. He will almost definitely not be worth the $8 million that we’ll pay him in 2012, and there’s a better chance of a Scott Erickson comeback than him being worth the $7 million that we’ll pay him in 2013. (And, obviously, there’s no chance of him being worth the stupidly deferred $1 million that we’ll pay him in 2014, when he will not be playing for us.) The only reason this doesn’t get a D or lower is because I thought Ned bid against himself to get the contract figure up to 3/$21…but it turned out the Giants offered 3/$20. So great, it wasn’t a total disaster, just a disaster. Thanks, Ned.
Barajas: D-. For probably about $1-$1.25 million more, the Dodgers could have gotten a 27-year-old OBP machine who throws out 35-40% of attempted basestealers every year (albeit one who IS coming off an injury and who hasn’t been hitting all that well in recent years but who is young enough and talented enough to rebound). Instead, they decided to go with the 35-year-old career .239/.284/.412 career hitter who had one good week for the team last year followed by four terrible ones. Again…thanks Ned. So much.
Cumulative GPA: 2.4 (C+). Way to go Ned, you haven’t changed a bit.
Just a note
if Garland’s option does in fact vest, by him pitching 190 innings in 2010, then he will also have earned another $3.525 million in incentives, and the total deal will be two years, $16.025 million.
And if Garland
Does have his option vest, he will not be necessarily be over priced for 2012.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I
Believe Martin has to prove he can still play after recovering from a broken hip. I don’t share the same optimism that hecwill even be able to repeat his 2010 numbers.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Uribe
is the only IF we have signed past next year I believe, so he’ll be useful as they revamp the infield as (hopefully) one of Gordon/DeJesus emerges for 2012. I think it’s a solid B signing, unless he turns into 2010 Ronnie Belliard, which could happen.
Lilly was good, he’s reliable and that’s a decent price as long as he’s healthy. He’s a poor man’s Glavine playing at home.
If Garland’s arm falls off, it won’t be much of a sunk cost for a really good 5th starter.
I’d rather have Rod B at 3.25 right now rather than Russ at 6 with all that uncertainty, but this also depends if they get a run producer for the OF. Still, it seems Ned did overpay due to a panic situation.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I generally agree
But there a few points worth noting:
We don’t know that Lilly won’t still be a relatively good contract beyond 2011. The way he pitches, there’s not THAT much reason to believe he won’t be able to keep going for a few more years.
“there’s a better chance of a Scott Erickson comeback than him being worth the $7 million that we’ll pay (Uribe) in 2013” With inflation (seriously!), 7 million in 2013 might not be so disasterous if Uribe can be the Uribe of ‘09/’10 (assuming he can even be that guy in ‘11 and ’12). It won’t be cheap, but it won’t be a disaster. 34 isn’t THAT old in baseball terms. My concern with Uribe is that he may be just a little older than he says- you know how it goes with players from that part of the world, and I was SHOCKED to learn that he was only 31 now.
And while I agree 100% with what you say about Martin, as BH points out, you can’t really brush off the “albeit one who IS coming off an injury” part. We still don’t know how serious it is. But if he does bounce back from it, high school kids may be answering “Barajas:Martin” to the “Pierre:Werth” question on the analogy portion of their SATs. (They still have SATs in school, right?)
One good thing
About sitting in your car in a Rose Bowl parking lot, you can recharge your phone battery while waiting.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Looks like I will be spared any chance
Of being rained on in Pasadena tonight but it will be a little chilly.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Scott Boras
Is going to have to search hard to find a team for Werth if Boston gets Gonzalez.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 5:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
For
15 million per at a term of 4-5 years, why not?
When do you leave for warmer climate and no Giant’s gear in sight?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I leave Tuesday morning.
Right now, I’m still working, while outside crowds of people dressed up as Santas are doing a city Santa bar crawl
And
I thought San Francisco was sophisticated, all they do is invent activities for more drinking.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Word is they still have the cash for him
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
plus whoever loses out on crawford will then probably bid on werth
It only takes one
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Still
Trying to figure out how UConn can be one of the 10 best teams in college football.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
trying to plan my belated honeymoon
here are the choices:
- Belize
- Costa Rica
- Bali
- Fiji
Any thoughts?
Been to 3 of the 4 – Bali is the most magical
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, i’m wondering though if it would be better to save bali for a longer extended trip throughout SE Asia.
It’s a long way to Bali, but once there everything else falls away
it was where we Honeymooned
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
been to Costa Rica – touristy and, from my experience, more fun than romantic.
I would pick Fiji or Belize. Bali would be awesome. But I would save it for a longer trip that way, you can really explore the culture.
Costa Rica sounds like a good trip to do with a group of friends…
So far Bali is up there, but feel that since it takes so long to get out there, we might as well fold it into a larger trip. However, everyone has been talking it up.
its an island
so kind of a pain for linking
Thailand is a great trip for exploring around – rent a bike and ride from Bangkok to Chang Mai or something like that
In Bali, just be Balanesian
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
thanks
my friend had a destination wedding in Mexico so I’m also intrigued by the Mayan Riviera
That’s where I was going to take my girlfriend, now I’m saving it as a bookmark for a week-long spring break party.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I spent 21 days driving through the Yucatan
Tulum is pretty awesome too
great small town called Vaidolid about an hour inland – if you cross the penisula you can hit the great shrimp town of Campeche, charming walled city and great cammarones, at least before BP pissed oil everywhere
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
then it will likely be a short marriage :)
besides, she’s made the trip with me to Vero in ‘08, and Camelback in ’09 and ’10, I think it’s fair we go somewhere where i won’t be able to scout a game in between meals
So
Dominican Republic is a no go? Heck even dodgersf is scouting in Puerto Rico in the next few weeks?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I had a chance to play in a baseball tournament in the Dominican last year
The guys from my league got slaughtered by a team of Dominicans that were well over 50
They came back shaking their heads about how good those old dudes could play
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
some of the Dominicans
in the majors are over 50
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
the fact that the Caribbean Winter League might be going on may not play well for the new wife. we went to Maui a few years back and I dragged her to a Hawaiian Winter League game. we ended up talking it up with Russ Mitchell after the game during their post game meal of pizza. not the most romantic thing
I might be playing in an MSBL tournament at Camelback in Jan
If I can make work fit around it – will be awsome
We are a Dodger team playing teams from Padre, Giant, and Rockie leagues
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on what you want to do on a honeymoon
I went to Myrtle Beach in November.
by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Beltre or Werth
With Gonzales now in Boston, maybe difficult for Boston to sign Werth and very doubtful they will sign Beltre. If you think the Oakland offer for Beltre was true 64 million for 4 years abd Werth figures to be about 15 million per, who would you rather have the Dodgers go after? My vote is still for Beltre.
I'd rather have Werth
regardless of your opinion of Casey Blake, at least we HAVE a 3B. As of now, we don’t have a LF, and Werth would make our defense superb.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
But beyond this year...
3B is really bleak. Much easier to fill the OF hole in FA, by a trade, or with a prospect.
@neufaustcan
I would also take Beltre. Since the Dodgers have no promising third basemen in the pipeline, I think getting a very good player to fill that spot for a few years would be a huge priority. While we certainly don’t have any really highly rated outfielders either, we’ve got at least a few that have a shot at being decent.
Just rocked dinner
Pan seared giant scallops cooked in pancetta fat and butter
Spinach wilted in the porky brown butter that the scallops cooked in
Pulled the spinach out and tossed previously cooked quinoa with the pancetta lardons – did a super fast refried quinoa
Hot damn – thats good eating
I can’t believe UCLA SC hasn’t kicked off yet
Yum
Scallops can be a bitch to get right. They have like a ten second window of being perfectly cooked.
hate to be giving myself an oldfashioned here
but I nailed them
dark golden crust, translucent barely firm middle
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
An Old-fashioned
when the Dutch Rudder just doesn’t do it for you anymore.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Two things
1) I hate the late start as well
2) I would pan glaze the shit out of that. Sounds delicious.
creme fraiche
where’s my creme fraiche?
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
I
Know you have dessert (or had) already. Thanks for coming by.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Your blondies were made for coffee - so good
BH – we need to open a shop, I do bread, you do pastry
The bacon peanut butter cookie was also stupid good and a well executed macaroon
When does it happen again???
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Bad night to not be a football fan and with no rooting interest in the USC/UCLA game.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I
Thought you had 2-3 dates lined up this weekend?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
One was lunch today, another is dinner tomorrow, third was lunch this past thursday.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Lunch on Thursday was fun. Smart, career-oriented, loves to travel and have a good time, but I just wasn’t attracted to her, so she goes in the ‘friend I’d go to Vegas with’ pile.
Lunch today was all looks and no substance, so she goes in the “I’ll see you when I see you” pile.
So far, no. But it’s also only been a week since my life got flipped upside down, so I wasn’t expecting anything more than meeting some new people and putting myself out there.
The monkey is out of the bottle.
Poll question
Should the guy pay for the first date?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 4, 2010 6:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Are her parents rich?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
by nolander on Dec 4, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ok question
isn’t dinner more of a date than lunch? I feel like lunch or coffee is casual. This of course is coming from someone who has never been asked out on a date.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I never really asked anyone out on a date
and I’m married!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Yes
I would consider dinner to be less casual
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 4, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
dinner is far less casual than lunch
which, since all three of these girls I just kind of randomly met, I felt like it would put less pressure on them, take away all the expectations of intimacy, and not make them feel weird at the possibility of spending an evening with a strange dude they met in line at the bank.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
“so she goes in the ‘friend I’d go to Vegas with’ pile”
When i was single, I usually ended up sleeping with that pile
I don’t think sleeping with anyone is an option right now. I really just want to meet new people (even though I bailed on TBLA night).
The monkey is out of the bottle.
I get that - totally respect it
but that doesn’t mean I haven’t said something to the same effect…
and then wondered later how I ever woke up in that persons bed
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 4, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
I see. Yeah, if I actually did go to Vegas with her (it’s her choice vacation spot), if I didn’t sleep with her I’d end up sleeping with one of her friends. Very attractive group of 23-25 year old Manhattan/Redondo/Hermosa girls.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
Yeah
she got mad at me when I said I had only been once and all we did was gamble and walk the strip. She said she’d have to show me all the best clubs.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
haha
next time, gamble during the day when odds are the same, but tables are cheaper. then go clubbing at night.
G Scott
awesoke avatar, swesoke even.
Darkwing Duck FTW
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
TBLA is not new people
and you can’t date Josie or Maddz, if things don’t work out Eric and I don’t want to have to have a custody battle on our hands.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
haha
new people doesn’t have to just be skirts. For instance, I really only had two best friends and my girlfriend. Best friend #1 is on a plane to New Zealand, best friend #2 is out with a girl, and girlfriend is on a date. Tonight is a long night.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
If I've done nothing else worthwhile
I’ve brought back “skirts” into the vocabulary.
I hear that, I had three best friends, one moved to Seattle 15 years ago, one moved to Kansas three years ago, the other died two years ago. Best friends who really earn that title are worth their
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
haha I wrote ‘chicks’ and replaced it with skirts for you.
Yeah, it’s rough, but the sun will rise tomorrow.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
Same here.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. LIke my sig says.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I don't get it
how does you getting burned by Josie affect me?
:)
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
custody battle?
Who would you rather see in a v-neck at future TBLA events, me or him?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Ya, was still getting over it at the time (still likely am)
but hopefully date today works out.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
I'm still in denial right now
I fully expect an announcement in the next couple days that the Dodgers have resigned Martin to a two-year, $8 million contract with an option and performance-based incentives that could push the deal to 3/21. Someone put me out of my misery, please…it just hurts too much.
by TomasC on Dec 4, 2010 8:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
BANG!
sorry for the mess
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
In the cheese?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Entering my 15th hour of work today
any score on the football game?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I'm not sure
but TBLA might have died
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
14-7 USC at halftime
ugly first half.
Two big plays by UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin: one 59-yard TD, and one fumble, leading to a 66-yard TD return by Malcolm Smith of USC.
USC also had two other drives inside the UCLA 25 that led to 0 points (failed 4th & 1, and failed fake FG)
Duckbill quote
“I had a horrendous year. I couldn’t get my mechanics right now matter what I tried,” said Sherrill, who had a 6.69 ERA in 2010. “I’m ready to bounce back and help somebody no matter my role.”
(passed on via MLBTR)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yep
Ugliness at the Rose Bowl tonight.
Matt Barkley on his bad leg has the mobility of late Dan Marino right now, with an arm slightly below that caliber. :)
Hey who won todays most negative comment of the day?
Because paying 3 plus million for Rod is so fuckin sweet!! :)
Im very glad I dont watch TV and use the computer often in the offseason, because I just this great news and at least my whole wasnt fucked, now I can just sleep it off.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
Hey who won todays most negative comment of the day?
Because paying 3 plus million for Rod is so fuckin sweet!! :)
Im very glad I dont watch TV and use the computer often in the offseason, because I just this great news and at least my whole wasnt fucked, now I can just sleep it off.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
whoops!
Sorry I didnt mean to go all x-rated on everyone.
Fuck the Rangers in 2010 < never coming down.
Hate to do it to you, Michael :)
Oregon ain’t running the table
Don’t see it.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up actions
you picking them
over Auburn?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
it should be a good game
my Dad said it should come down to who has the ball last.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 4, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
I predict Auburn will be favored. After their performance Saturday (which I didn’t see), I can’t disagree.
I saw a tweet earlier that I can't find
that said Oregon would open as 3-point favorite.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 4, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
That’s surprising to me. Oregon’s the only team I’ve ever seen that can look sloppy and still blow an opponent out. I have a connection for tickets, but the goddamned game’s on a Monday. I’m already cashing in some chips over winter break. Oh well. That only increases the chances the Ducks will win.
My sister and her husband
who have probably watched less than 25 football games in their lives, bought tickets for Glendale and are going to root for Auburn. My sister works with someone who is from Auburn, who lives near the school, and went there, as well as her husband and all her kids.
My sister and her husband went back to visit for a game (I think vs. South Carolina last year) and loved it, so they are sort of pseudo Auburn fans now.
My bro-in-law walks around sometimes in an Auburn t-shirt, only he didn’t know how to respond when people would come up to him and say “War Eagle.” Haha.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 4, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
“Hey” is always a good response, but the proper answer is just to say “War Eagle” in return.
Hoping to see my Hokies against Stanford in the Orange, that also would be an excellent game.
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
They used to run a tape of our most recent president saying it, “wrrrrrgl”
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
who needs defense
when you score 50 a game?
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Man Adrian Gonzales
crushed LH pitching last year
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Hey guys hey guys guess what??
It’s snowing!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Apparently the Absolute Bloody Hour
is 9am on a Sunday
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
I guess if you’re going to have a bloody mary, 9 am on a Sunday isn’t too farfetched.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Now I'm trying to decide
if I want to get up, get bundled up, and walk to a coffee shop…no bloody mary for me but maybe a coffee perhaps.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Nobody's posted this yet, per Gammons
A.J. Pierzinski was “a minute away” from signing with the Dodgers when Jerry Reinsdorf stepped in
Lucky break.
is it?
besides his attitude, I’d rather pay the extra 750k for the difference in production between Rod Barahaha and AJ.
If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like Sausage.
We can no longer make fun of any signings.
by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Is this A-Gon to BOS
deal going to get done?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
bahahaha
the deal fell through
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Withrow, Sands, Trayvon, Loney. Go.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
Revisiting the San Diego Jake Peavy trade method?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 5, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Also Jed Hoyer didn’t work for us and so wouldn’t cheat to give us an advantage.
by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
News From The Future
Adrian Gonzalez dealt to Red Sox for a PBTNL and a Padre dog.
by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
we can trade
Anthony Jackson, our big get in the Dotel trade from COL…and Charlie Steiner
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
though
I don’t see it being reported anywhere. Link?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
From MSTI's twitter
Holy crap. RT @SI_JonHeyman Source; gonzalez deal fell thru
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
When Hoyer said he’s not gonna listen to any more offers Theo realized he could get him for nothing at the trade deadline.
by regfairfield on Dec 5, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
They are still negotiating
per Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe:
The 2 p.m. deadline for signing Adrian Gonzalez to a contract extension has come and gone, but an extension of the deadline could have taken place. According to one source familiar with the talks, some progress is being made therefore it would reason that the sides would continue to hammer something for the remainder of the afternoon.
Major League Baseball grants up to 72 hours for some sign and trade deals and if the parties are close, nobody is going to tell them they can’t keep negotiating.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Lions giving Bears all they can handle
whale of a game
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I’m listening to the game.
Was that a personal foul on Suh just a moment ago?
I realize that was the call, but what were your thoughts?
In real time
it looked like a shot to the back of the head when Cutler was running, but replay showed more of a push. With how fast it happened, I could see how the refs called it that way.
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Poor poor Lions
now go out next week and beat the Pack!!
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Was it to the head?
even if it was a push any time you get the QBs head its a flag, its da rules.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
it was up there
but Cutler was past the line of scrimmage and was not sliding
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I have 5 guys on lmy fantasy team left to play
I currently have 8 points!
Orton- 2
S Johnson- 3
Pettigrew- 3
I’m behind 81-8
Ha Ha Ha
This would muck things up a bit
per Phillies beat writer Todd Zolecki of MLB.com:
Sources told MLB.com this afternoon Werth’s agent Scott Boras was close to a deal with the Washington Nationals on a multiyear contract. Terms of the deal were unclear, but the Nationals figure to have money to spend after losing free agent Adam Dunn to the Chicago White Sox. Werth would help replace Dunn’s bat in the middle of the Nationals lineup.
Wow
Better them than some big team or a division rival. Better us than them, mind you. But still. Huh. Cool.
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File under: "It's nice to want things" (www.rotoworld.com)
He’s thought to be seeking a contract similar to the seven-year, $120 million pact that Matt Holliday signed last winter.
don't forget Zimm
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
yep
they’re certainly targeting 2012-13 with Strasburg back and possibly Harper, they’re going for it then. By his 37-38 years that will be like the Helton contract.
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certainly
didn’t see that coming.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe Dodgers will swoop in and surprise people for another player!
Or not.
Weird day, AGon not going to Boston after all. What else will happen! Cliff Lee to the Orioles!
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I’d love to get Beltre. Would 5yrs/65M be enough?Have Gibbons start in LF with Blake to platoon with.
For Beltre to come here, Gonzalez to Boston has to get done, removing the Sox from the party. Beltre doesn’t want to play in Oakland, so anything is possible. But, again, it’s foolish to think about these things since it won’t happen.
Those three give us more power than we had last year. I think the offense will depend on Kemp and Ethier living up to their potential which I think they can. This is a big year for Loney also becuase Sands could be ready to take over for him by next season. I think now we will get someone like Damon to hit #2. If Furcal stays healthy and Kemp and Ethier bounce back I think we can be one of the best teams in the NL.
I think
we should wheel Ned Colletti into the Winter Meetings lobby ala Hannibal Lecter. It would be dramatic, make a point, and possibly get us a sit-down with the agent for Arthur Rhodes.
(hissing)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
ain’t no way we’re on that train.
Also, how would you guys feel if we busted that out? Good? Bad? Ambivalent?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
that's a lot of coin
good thing they have a mint
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by Pure Azure on Dec 5, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Cha-fucking-ching
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Opulence
he has it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
he’1ll soon be wallowing in his own crapulence.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
3 questions
1. Is there a no-trade clause?
2. How does it breakdown by years?
3. Any deferred money?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 5, 2010 2:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
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